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Speaker 1: Hi, Casey, Oh Brian, Hi Melie to Jericho. How are you.

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Speaker 2: Be honest?

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Speaker 1: Take a look at it.

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Speaker 2: Take a good look at me right now?

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Speaker 1: Uh huh? Do you think cool?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Do you think I am dressed like Justin Bieber?

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Speaker 1: No, I would never say that. You do it Justin

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Speaker 1: Bieber No, no, no no, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm dressed way too young for my age. And you

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Speaker 2: must admit.

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Speaker 1: That you look like I mean, you look you're looking

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Speaker 1: kind of jen X. You look like you can work

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Speaker 1: in a record store right now. Oh you you you

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Speaker 1: she's wearing she's all in black, black hoodie, black baseball cap.

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Speaker 1: It's just like Steve Albanie.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the banks because you know, I put

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Speaker 2: my bangs, I have my swoopy bangs out.

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Speaker 1: You do kind of like scrillicks.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, thank you for see. I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: I like pop on camera for the first time today

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, what the fuck are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What is this is? It is shocking working from home

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Speaker 1: seeing not a soul and then popping on your zoom

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Speaker 1: and the horror of seeing your own reflection is really

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Speaker 1: it is a startling sight to see.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like I look like an emo kid

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Speaker 2: with a swoopy bang outside of a hat. Okay, just

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Speaker 2: as long as we're clear.

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Speaker 1: On that, well, fabulous, Well, Millie, we have too much

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. We of course have another installment

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Speaker 1: of our film Diary segment. That's the segment where we

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Speaker 1: talk about the movies that we've seen in the past week.

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Speaker 1: We've recorded very recently, so might be a bit late.

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Speaker 2: It might be a variation on the film part of.

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Speaker 1: The film Diary. Yes, I have been watching things that

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Speaker 1: might disturb people, frankly, and we'll get into that. But

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Speaker 1: what else are we talking about today, Millie?

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Speaker 2: Well, this is gonna be an episode that that you're

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Speaker 2: because we're gonna talk about Irish cinema basically, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And the last time I guided an episode was the

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Speaker 1: Garden State episode, and I feel like you were just

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Speaker 1: really unsettled by that whole experience. So hopefully we have

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Speaker 1: a more positive one this time. And because like you said,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about Irish cinema, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about a little movie called The Panchees. I've in

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Speaker 1: a share and from twenty twenty two. Uh, I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to talk about this movie. I love this movie

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Speaker 2: And then what else do we have for this?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we've had so many wonderful questions from listeners,

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Speaker 1: voicemails and actual letters, and we just we have so

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Speaker 1: segment to it. So we're doing something I'm calling Film

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Speaker 1: Advice Ultra where we go through a few film advice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Well, all this and so much more

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Speaker 2: on this very very good episode of Dear Movies, I

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Speaker 2: Love You, Dear.

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Speaker 3: I love you, and I've got to know you love

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Speaker 3: me to check the box.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of Deer Movies, I

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Speaker 2: Love You. This is the film podcast where you and

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Speaker 2: I and us are having a tumultuous, torrid, spicy romance

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Speaker 2: with motion pictures.

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Speaker 1: Very spicy. We're down bad for movies, as they say,

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Speaker 1: the children say.

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Speaker 2: That is right. My name is Millie de Chercho.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Casey O'Brien cool and we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna we have a lot to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we have so many things.

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Speaker 2: We've already established it. I look like an Emo kid

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Speaker 2: from the early two thousands.

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Speaker 1: We did a picture there, right.

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Speaker 2: We've established that you are Irish.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what else? What else can we,

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Speaker 1: Well, quickly before we get into our film diary, I

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Speaker 1: believe you have a film gripe to deposit upon our ears.

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Speaker 2: know that that is a money counter?

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Speaker 2: it is. But I have a film grape. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: mean I reluctantly bring up this film grape only because

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Speaker 2: my life. But Mike, rape is that I have recently been,

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Speaker 2: there has been a rash of of this and I'm

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Speaker 2: this very thing that I have a gripe about, okay,

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Speaker 2: which is that the time at which the movie starts,

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Speaker 2: And it's because these intros are so long.

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Speaker 1: Minuno's talking to us, you know that type of shit.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm talking about that, plus the actual in person

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Speaker 1: It's number one, okay.

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Speaker 2: this thing. This is like part of my job. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's just these surprise ones that you weren't prepping for

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Speaker 2: welcome to you know, Casey's Kookie Film Fun.

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Speaker 1: You know this is the you know the old show

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Speaker 1: Casey's Cookie Film Fun, You're right.

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Speaker 2: And then you're just like, hey, I'm Casey, you know, welcome.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of housekeeping, here's a little bit

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Speaker 2: about the film. You know, here's maybe like a couple

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Speaker 2: Tell me about.

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Speaker 1: But part of it is that it's just so long,

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Speaker 2: There was so much going on, dude, I couldn't even

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Speaker 2: Dude. I was like, so that thing that started, damn

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Speaker 1: Irish cinema. Now, Millie, I am Irish. My name is

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Speaker 1: Me neither.

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Speaker 1: And it's very funny and very sweet, but even that,

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00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: there's like dark It's like about this guy dying, you know,

438
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: there's like an element to it where it's like this

439
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: is not all you know, sunshine and bubbles, you know,

440
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: it's there's still a darkness there to the movie, right.

441
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: And like I mean, I'm maybe I need to step

442
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: back and say it's not as if Japanese cinema isn't

443
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 2: sad or deals with heavy subjects. In fact, there's a

444
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: lot of sadness and a lot of you know, like

445
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: I don't know, I suppose darker subjects, especially in like

446
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: Kirousala movies and stuff like that. Like I but I

447
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: think it's the treatment of it. Like I feel like

448
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: the way that Japanese cinema at least, you know, through

449
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: a specific you know, maybe time period or like if

450
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 2: you go through like certain decades where the treatment of

451
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: the subject is almost kind of like the opposite, whereas

452
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: like Irish cinema like just goes for the jug you know,

453
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 2: really goes for the juggular. It is like doesn't care.

454
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: And that's what I love about it. It's just like

455
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: going for it. I mean that is like one of

456
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: the things about The Banshees of An A Sheeran specifically,

457
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: that I really love is that it's just very like

458
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: noble shit like this this friendship, the end of this friendship,

459
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: which the movie we'll talk about in just a second,

460
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: is so dark and so yeah, there's no frills and

461
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: there's something that I love about that. And I feel

462
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 2: like if like a in a different country, perhaps like

463
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: somewhere like Japan, if you took that same plot line,

464
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: it would just be expressed just more tenderly.

465
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's like a

466
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: messiness to Irish movies. I don't know if that's the

467
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: right word, where it's like really in the muck of

468
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: like it really goes there. It really is like totally

469
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: fine sitting in this like supreme darkness. But then like

470
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: still laughing about it, like yeah, I feel like they

471
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: really wallow in that bog of sadness, you know, So.

472
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but no, this is a great way to.

473
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: Transition into the The Banshees of Inserin. It's funny because

474
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: on Google, if you google it, it'll say you know,

475
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: like they'll say like the genre of movie, and it

476
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: says the Banshees of in a Sheeron is a comedy

477
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: slash horror?

478
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 4: Is it?

479
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean it could be?

480
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: Which I mean it is? Like it's so the real.

481
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: Let me just give a quick synopsis of this movie.

482
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: This movie stars Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson and they

483
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: were like lifelong best friends and then one day Brendan

484
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Gleeson is like, I don't want to be friends with

485
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: you anymore, and he gives some reason this Also, this

486
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: takes place on a remote island, a fake island called

487
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: inn a Sheeron, and it takes place in Ireland in

488
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three. And so Brendan Gleeson is like, I

489
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: don't want to be friends anymore, and he gives some

490
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: reasons as to why, but not really you never really

491
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: quite get to why. He's like, I just don't want

492
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: He's just it's basically like I don't want to be

493
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: friends with you anymore, and it drives Colin fair as

494
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: it would any normal person your eyes. Colin Ferrell like nuts,

495
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: and he just like cannot get over it. And it

496
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: gets to a point where he keeps trying to re

497
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: engage with Brendan Gleeson. Colin Farel's like why, like, let's

498
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: talk talk, let's hang out, And Brendan Gleeson gets to

499
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: a point where he's like, if you talk to me again,

500
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut off one of my fingers, and Colin

501
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Farell's like okay, yeah, right, yeah, and then he does

502
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: it and he cuts off one of his fingers and

503
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: it keeps moving on. It's like, if you talk to

504
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: me again, I'm going to cut off another finger, right,

505
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: And You're like, he has to be kidding. He ain't kitting,

506
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: So it's really I mean, that is kind of a

507
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: horrifying notion that someone you love and spend time with.

508
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Colin Ferrell and Brendan Gleeson are getting beer

509
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: like every day together. They have like a routine, and

510
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, to have someone that close to

511
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: you in your life be like, I actually just don't

512
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: want to see you anymore, and I don't really have

513
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: a reason, I just don't. That is scary to me,

514
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: and it is dark and frightening.

515
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, let's let's unpack this a little bit, because,

516
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: first of all, I absolutely was obsessed with this movie

517
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: when it came out.

518
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: Me too, I really loved this movie when it came out.

519
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a huge in Bruges fan. So which

520
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: is the movie that they were in prior?

521
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just have to say that the director, writer

522
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: and director, Martin McDonough, he did in Bruses, He also

523
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: did Three Billboards outside of Ebbing, Missouri. You know, I

524
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: did not like either of those movies that much. I

525
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: didn't find I didn't like In Bruges that much. I didn't.

526
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was trying to be

527
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: too I just didn't. I didn't vibe with it. I

528
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: can't explain why. Just didn't think it was funny or something.

529
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: But this I was absolutely I absolutely was head over

530
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: heels for this one.

531
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I loved In Bruges. I am one of

532
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: probably the only people that actually liked Three Billboards when

533
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: it came out, Like a lot of people had problems

534
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: with it, but this one is definitely my fave. Oh yeah,

535
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: and I so right around like after the I saw

536
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: this movie in the theater. Like a couple months after

537
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: I saw this movie, I was staying at my parents' house,

538
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: and I think it was probably for you know, like

539
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: summer or something. I had like this extended break and

540
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: I was there for a couple of weeks, and my

541
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: dad was going through this kind of like very similar

542
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: situation with his like lifelong best friend.

543
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: Wow.

544
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: They were like they had been friends for like forty

545
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: years or something crazy. Like, Yeah, they like were in

546
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: the like you know, they were like in the military together.

547
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: So that's even more like the bonds that of like

548
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: ex military people. Like, I mean, they were like really close.

549
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean they had followed each other, you know, like

550
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: across the country, like you know, moving and like getting

551
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: station places and we suspend like every hall with them,

552
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: you know, just like total besties. And like I think

553
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: it's I have to say, like guys generally, uh, straight guys,

554
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: I will say, generally, Uh, this is gonna be a stereotype.

555
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it anyway. Straight guys generally don't have

556
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: a ton of friends, Okay, let alone guys with a

557
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: certain generation. Yeah, like this was like my dad's only friend.

558
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: It's what I'm saying. Yeah, and my dad just literally

559
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: like had a light bulb moment and said, I just like,

560
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: don't want to be friends with this s guy anymore.

561
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: Did your dad have to cut off any of his fingers?

562
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: No?

563
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: Thank god. But it was crazy because it was like

564
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: he was the Brendan Gleeson character like in his own life,

565
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: and he had not seen this movie before. And I

566
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: told my dad. I was like, we are going to

567
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: watch this movie together. So me and him and my

568
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: mom watched The Bands uses them in a Sharon because

569
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: I was like, it's like ripped off, ripped from the

570
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: headlines of your life right now, and he predictably was

571
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: like blown away.

572
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: Wow, amazing.

573
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: It was sort of like, I mean, yeah, it stares

574
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: to why don't they get it? Why don't they get it?

575
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa to see?

576
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: That's so interesting because you are when you're watching this movie,

577
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: you're like Colin Fairley just doesn't want to hang out,

578
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: leave him alone, But you also understand where he's coming from,

579
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: where he's like, why the fuck what happened? Why I'll change?

580
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: What do you need? You know? And it's like, I

581
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: don't know, just to have someone like I think that's

582
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: like a deep seated fear to feel. I mean, it's

583
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: kind of like invasion of the body Snatchers. It's kind

584
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: of like you turn around and all of a sudden,

585
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: the person doesn't No, you don't know the person you've

586
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: been so close to, you know.

587
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is I think, like what I wanted

588
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: to unpack maybe about this, maybe you know, is where

589
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: like when you think about the movie and you think

590
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: about the dynamic between these two characters, right, yeah, you're

591
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: obviously you seem like you're obviously more afraid of the

592
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: scenario of being like cut off, right because obviously it's

593
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: it's huge. It's a huge it's like a breakup, and

594
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: it's even worse than a breakup.

595
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: It's worse.

596
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: Breaking up with friends is so fucking painful, like the worst.

597
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Right yeah, because there isn't really a structure for that.

598
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: If you say to your you know, significant other, I

599
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: want to break up, they know what that means immediately.

600
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: But there's no there's no way to really break up

601
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: with a friend other than being like, go away, I

602
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: don't want to see you ever again, And I don't know,

603
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: there's not a language for that.

604
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: I guess, Well, but then I guess my question is

605
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: that it could you do that? Could you do the opposite?

606
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: Could you be the one that like walks away from someone?

607
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, but the thing that's frustrating

608
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: about the movie is he's just like, spending time with

609
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: you is a waste and I don't want to waste

610
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: any more time, you know. And huh, yeah, I feel

611
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: like if I were to walk away from someone, it

612
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: would have to be like, you are causing pain in

613
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: my life and I can't be around you. And maybe

614
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Colin Farrell's character is causing pain in Brendan Gleeson's life,

615
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: but I don't, I don't know. I would have to

616
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: I think if I were to be the one who

617
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: broke up with somebody who broke up with a friend,

618
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: it would have to be for like a more specific

619
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: reason than Brendan Gleeson gives in this movie. You know.

620
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, see that's interesting.

621
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: I see Pilie is trying to figure out how to

622
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: cut me out of her life, so that's why she's

623
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: interrogating me.

624
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm writing all this down because I am

625
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: just going to disappear. Yeah, I'm never going to give

626
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: you a reason.

627
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, I I think, I.

628
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Don't know, I just think about me. I when I

629
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: was younger, I think the idea of losing friends was

630
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: so super painful, like just so super painful. I wanted

631
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: to be liked really badly by people. I think I

632
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: probably had some like you know, codependency in service regards

633
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: when it comes to you know, just friends and this

634
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: kind of stuff because I was young, and I I

635
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: don't know, I just idealized so many things. Yeah, as

636
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: I've gotten older, I think I've begun to understand like solitude.

637
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: To be honest, I've begun to understand solitude, and I've

638
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: begun to understand the idea that, like people change, things change.

639
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm not as scared too, And I'm not saying like

640
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like this, you know, fortified fortress on

641
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: an island. I'm not like Alcatraz or anything emotionally. I'm

642
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: just saying I understand it more. Because when I watched

643
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: this movie, I was thinking, I was actually like looking

644
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: at the Brendan Gleason character, going, this guy has a

645
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: different energy than this guy. Right, Colin Ferrell seems very

646
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to say simple, maybe simple is not

647
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: the word, but he seems very like just like a

648
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: hard just yes, very earnest, you know, maybe not like

649
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: happy happy. I mean, this is Ireland for crying out loud,

650
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: but you know, like kind of just more like living

651
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Speaker 2: in the moment. He's not like mulling over like deep things.

652
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: You know. He just wants to have a beer at

653
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: the pub with his friends and just like hang out

654
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: with his donkey and fucking be a simple dude, right.

655
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: I feel like that Brennan Gleeson is the opposite. He's like,

656
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: I'm all I want to do is just be by

657
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 2: goth fucking self. I want to sit around and ponder

658
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: the meaning of life. And I just feel like my

659
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: energy has changed and I just can't hang out with

660
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: this Dodo friend of mine anymore. And I don't want

661
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: to tell him why. I want to be, you know,

662
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: very mysterious about that, and that should.

663
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Speaker 1: Be fine, yes, But I think the maybe I'm the simple,

664
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Speaker 1: you know, edited one in my own life. But I uh,

665
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: I do think Martin McDonough's movies are very about men

666
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: a lot of times. Yeah, And I think Brendan Gleeson's

667
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: character does something that like men do, which is be

668
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: super dramatic and black and white and kind of like

669
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Speaker 1: he couldn't just communicate to Colin Ferrell, Hey, I want

670
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: to be goth and be alone. Yeah, he said to him,

671
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to be your friend anymore, which is

672
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: like two separate things. And he couldn't just be like, hey,

673
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Speaker 1: how do we how about we meet once a week

674
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: instead of every fucking day, you know, and maybe that

675
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: would have solved the problem first, but no, instead he

676
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: goes right, He's like, I want to be alone, and

677
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: the way to do that is to cut off my

678
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Speaker 1: finger to show him how serious I want to be alone.

679
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: You know, well I think you could really if you

680
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: really want to reduce it down to it's like simplest form. Okay,

681
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: this is something that I see on TikTok so. This

682
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: is from from TikTok so.

683
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Speaker 1: This is a verify This is a verified source.

684
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Speaker 2: Here, this is absolute Bible. Yes, there's something that they

685
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Speaker 2: call like they call a relationship black Cat and Golden Retriever.

686
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

687
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Speaker 2: Uh huh do you know do you say where I'm going?

688
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Yes with this? So like one person is the black cat,

689
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: one person is the moody uh you know, mysterious dark cat.

690
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: The other is like the happy, dopey golden retriever, right,

691
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: And like there's some people who are actually looking for

692
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: this dynamic and relationships. Like they're like, I'm a black cat,

693
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Speaker 2: I want a gold Retriever.

694
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Well you said you want a shitty little vampire. That

695
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: sort of feels like you're looking for black cat.

696
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: And right, they're like, I I think I am a

697
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: little golden retrievery. I have some black cat moments, but

698
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: for the most part, I'm a Golden Retriever. And so

699
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: that's the thing, is that, like it's this like opposite

700
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Speaker 2: energies thing of these two guys, right, and like it's

701
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: just finally one of the black cats. Like I'm so

702
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: fucking tired of this lap dog. I don't want to

703
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: hang out with him anymore. Like me, I want to

704
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: go off on my own to like sleep in the corner. Yeah,

705
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: no distractions.

706
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you know. And it's also this

707
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: takes place in a small village where I think people

708
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: idealize small town life a lot. I know my grandparents

709
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: who grew up in you know, small town Iowa, were

710
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: very excited to move to the Twin Cities because they

711
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Speaker 1: were tired of everyone knowing their fucking business all the time.

712
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: You know, like you can be much more anonymous and

713
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: a larger and you can be much more alone in

714
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Speaker 1: a like a larger city, when you're in this small village.

715
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Speaker 1: It's like he can't he can't be alone really because

716
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: people will just come up and knock on his goddamn

717
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: door all hours of the day. So I relate to

718
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: that too well.

719
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: And this is like the beauty of this movie. And

720
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Speaker 2: I feel like why it, like is an Irish classic, Yes,

721
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, is that because it is,

722
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: you will feel the confinement, like it's actually not a

723
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: confining place, right, it's on the coast. It's beautiful.

724
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Speaker 1: It's like exvansive seventy milimeter got it.

725
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have been a seventy mili movie for sure.

726
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: But I but that's the thing is that it's like,

727
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Speaker 2: even though it's in this beautiful, serene environment, it also

728
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: feels like isolated and closed off, which really is like

729
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: a part of the story about how hard it is

730
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: to even think about not talking to somebody in town

731
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Speaker 2: because there ain't a lot of people in town. And

732
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: you know, again, I think that's what makes this movie

733
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Speaker 2: hit for me, is that it is like the the

734
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Speaker 2: place that it's being shot at, the clothes which they're

735
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: always wearing, Like it's like a lot of like fucking

736
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: wool oiled double boiled wool coats and slacks. You know,

737
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Speaker 2: I absolutely am obsessed with the sister.

738
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh she was incredible. Oh man, I mean touch upon that.

739
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: But she's trying to leave the damn island right Like.

740
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's trying to leave, and the ways in which

741
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: she like, she just she's the one that like cuts

742
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: all these guys to the bone. And I fucking love

743
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: it so much. Yes, like will read you to filth.

744
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: It kind of sets up this whole like town that

745
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: they live in as being this like there's a lot

746
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: of characters.

747
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this could have been a TV show. I

748
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: like it really could. I I don't say that about

749
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: a lot of movies, but this was a fun world

750
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: to explore, you know, and I wanted to live in

751
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: it more too.

752
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: I just love to me this is like I know

753
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: that if we've decided to create a letterbox list about this,

754
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: it would go off the rails very quickly. In fact,

755
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm probably I'm sure there's probably already multiple lists, but

756
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: this is like one of the most goth movies I've

757
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: ever seen, like and not goth isn't. This isn't like

758
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: you know some you know, like and Rice Thing. This

759
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: is deeply really goth, like a goth energy, a goth vibe,

760
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: a goth palette. Yeah, the color palette. So I love it.

761
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: I would put it on my letter box list.

762
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, that's good. I also just want to

763
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: shout out. The sister is played by the actress Carrie

764
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Condon and I believe she was nominated for an Academy

765
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: Award for that role because she's really incredible. And yeah movie, she's.

766
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: A great actress. By the way, we should shut her

767
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: out for sure.

768
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we depart this segment, favorite Irish musicians.

769
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Speaker 2: Go, Besides Enya, I think we already established that. Yeah, yes,

770
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: is probably one of my all time faits. Actually, my

771
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: all time favoraball time is Shnead O'Connor, which you know,

772
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: talk about that's my girl right there. Like I have

773
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: a T shirt of her smoking a joint that I

774
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: wear out in public often. Yes, but I besides Enya

775
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 2: and Sad O'Connor, I mean, I gotta say, like, I'm

776
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: a very I love you too, but only in a

777
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: very specific little amount of time. I don't know how

778
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: you feel about that. Yeah, I agree, I'm kind of

779
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: like a Joshua Tree Rattle and Hum gal.

780
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know you, Yeah, no, I definitely. I think

781
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree is really the I'm not a YouTube scholar,

782
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 1: but I do listen to Joshua Tree, and I I'm

783
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm swept away by them. They're epic at times, you know,

784
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: and uh and earnest, and sometimes it's fun to be

785
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: that earnest, you know.

786
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I love Joshua Tree the big like the

787
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: big you know, anthems off that album, but also my

788
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: I think my actual favorite is probably Rattle and' hum

789
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: Era because it's like when you two came to America

790
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: and discovered like American rockabilly music and recorded at Sun Records,

791
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: and they started wearing fedoras and the vests with the

792
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: black vest with no shirts on underneath. I love it

793
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: when like international artists basically like go to Memphis and

794
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: playing like twelve string guitars and like they just listened

795
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: to like early Elvis Presley, and like, I love that

796
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: when that happens. So, I don't know, that's my favorite

797
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: you too. I think so.

798
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Speaker 1: Very good for me. I love the band, my bloody

799
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: Valentine Shoegaze. Kind of rolling her eyes, I'm like, dull

800
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: love them, and you know I love a good Van Morrison. Yeah,

801
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: I love love the Irish. I am Irish. You've never

802
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: been there, have you?

803
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: I've never I would die.

804
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: It's great to go.

805
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: But anyway, if you want to send me to Ireland,

806
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: if you're a shitty little vampire and you're like, hey,

807
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: we should have our honeymoon in Ireland, you can email

808
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: us at Dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com.

809
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: Love it. Yeah, all right, well this is fun moving on,

810
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: all right. So usually we do film advice at the

811
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: end of the episode, but we've gotten so many good

812
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: questions lately that we we got to get through some

813
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: more of these because they're just it's piling up, our

814
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: mail bags are piling up, and we got to get

815
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Speaker 1: through them. And so I thought it'd be fun to

816
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: go through a few of these, you know, all at once,

817
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: if that's okay with humiliate.

818
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Yoh oh, this is exciting. I'm so happy people are

819
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: writing in me too.

820
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled. All right, here we go here is a

821
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: voicemail with the first question for film advice. Here we go.

822
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 4: I would love advice on how to make one's way

823
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: through the catalog of Keanu Reeves movies. You guys have

824
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: definitely paid him his dues in his past, and my

825
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 4: partner and I want to make his way throughout all

826
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: his movies to honor the man of the legend. But

827
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: have already encountered one or two that are not available

828
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Speaker 4: to stream, and then the ones that we have been

829
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: able to watch. It's where we went chronologically in time,

830
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: so his early days ones, he's barely in them, so

831
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Speaker 4: not off to a strong start. And also just even

832
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 4: welcome to weird ways to make through the catalog, like sad,

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Speaker 4: Keanu happy, Keanu least sexy, the most sexy Kiano, although

834
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Speaker 4: that's probably impossible, but anyway, thank you.

835
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Speaker 1: And this was from Nicole. This is a question from

836
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Speaker 1: Nicole seeking of course.

837
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I got opinions about.

838
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Speaker 1: This, Yes, I mean, how to traverse the filmography of

839
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves. It sounds like they've started already. I mean,

840
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: have they gotten into the bill and Ted's that's my question.

841
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so here's what I'm going to suggest, yea,

842
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: I will I will say this is not my experience,

843
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: but looking back on my experience now being I'm not

844
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: going to call myself a scholar on Coanu Reeves. But

845
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: are okay? Thank you an ardent fan. By the way,

846
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: have y'all read the book. It's the Alex Papadimas book.

847
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: It's called Counter Reeves, Most Triumphant the Movies and Meaning

848
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: of an Irrepressible Icon.

849
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: Read this.

850
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: So Alex Papadimas is he was like one of my

851
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: favorite writers on grant Land.

852
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: Do you remember Bill Simmons.

853
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a great follow on Twitter back when

854
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: I was on Twitter. But you know grant Land. I

855
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: was such a huge fan of the people who wrote

856
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: for Grantland, and then I kind of have like been

857
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: a nerd about following them into their other ventures post

858
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: grant Land. But he wrote this book about Kanu Reeves.

859
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 2: It's kind of just like a treaty on uh being

860
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: into him. Anyway, I gave that book away for Christmas.

861
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: I think I actually sent one to Danielle for Christmas. Danielle,

862
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: my former co host. If I saw what you didn't,

863
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: But anyway, so when I think about your question, and

864
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: I think about, like, if I had to redo my

865
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: entire strategy of getting into Keanu Reeves and like going

866
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: through his filmography, here's what I would do. I would

867
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: actually start with his newer stuff first, so I would go,

868
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, hit those John Wicks real hard. I would

869
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: do definitely do a John Wicks series. I would go into.

870
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I would do like a little forty seven

871
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: rown in I would do. I would definitely do Destination

872
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: Wedding and always be my maybe like you just those

873
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: are just such like weird romantic late period romantic comedy

874
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: blips for Keanu that I just feel like are so irresistible,

875
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: and I'm just like you got like seeing him kind

876
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: of play himself. I know it's like you're not gonna

877
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: get it if you're not into Keanu Reeves. You're kind

878
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: of like, should I should I start with his more

879
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: like self reflexive, ironic Keanu Reeves, knowing he's Keanu Reeves roles,

880
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: I say, yes, why the fuck not? But then I

881
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: would do that. Then I would go to the beginning.

882
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: Then I would do River's Edge first, and foremost I

883
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: would do like you know, Bill and Ted point break,

884
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: my own private Idaho type of stuff. And then so

885
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: I would just do the weird thing where it'd be

886
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: like newer movies first, then older movies, then the mid

887
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: period of his absolute fame. Then I would do matrix,

888
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: you know, speed Johnny Mnemonic.

889
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: Does that make love Johnny Mnemonic? See? Yeah, that makes

890
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: total sense. He is he has had so many different careers,

891
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, because at first, I feel like he was

892
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: kind of action surfer dude, and I'm just gonna include

893
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: Bill and Ted in that category. Like there's like action

894
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: surfer dude, Bill and Ted Speed Point Break that's kind

895
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: of its own thing. Then there was like dramatic Keanu,

896
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: and I would put maybe Bram Stoker and like him

897
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: doing like The Devil's Advocate and those types of movies.

898
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: And then there's like sci fi Keanu, which is like

899
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: the matrix in Johnny Nuemonic. So it's it's so hard

900
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: like to how to navigate. He is kind of tricky

901
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: to navigate because it's like, if you're like not into

902
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: sci fi, there's a huge chunk of his movies you

903
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: might not be into, you know.

904
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, and like and I think it makes sense.

905
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna politic and this from

906
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: my way, my method, only because I feel like he's

907
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: the kind of actor who's had a long enough career

908
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: and has had all these iterations like you say, to

909
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: where it would I think it's fun. And again, maybe

910
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: those are my own personal viewing habits where I like

911
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: a lot of older movies, and there's a lot of

912
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: times where I've watched newer movies by older actors not

913
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: knowing that they were in older movies, and then going

914
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 2: back to see those older movies being like, Oh my god,

915
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: isn't it so cute how young they were. So that's

916
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: kind of like if you're not really into Keanu Reeves,

917
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand how that's possible, but whatever,

918
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: Like and you were to watch, yeah, the newer like

919
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: if you were to watch john Wick one through four

920
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: and then you were like, oh, fuck, I gotta go

921
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: watch River's Edge. I mean, I think you would be

922
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: delighted to see River's Edge. Keanu Bill and Ted's Keanu

923
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: just like that I love you to death Keanu like

924
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: where yeah, he was more of kind of like a

925
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: surfer dude, like you know, he got that, Like, I mean,

926
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: that's a whole other story, he got that vibe very

927
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: early on in his career that he was just kind

928
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: of like, you know, a little bit of a Dodo, right, But.

929
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: Well, that was like the joke for him about him

930
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: for so long was that he was stupid. Like I

931
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: feel like that was like he's such a big joke

932
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: for a long time. And it resurfaced again with Matthew

933
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: Perry's autobiography Did you hear about this? How he makes

934
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: several jokes in it about like all these talented people

935
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: keep dying and Keanu Reeves is still alive and he

936
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: makes that joke twice in the book, And it was

937
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: kind of like that was such a thing for like

938
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: ten years, where it's like Canna Reeves is dumb and

939
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: a bad actor, and luckily he was able to shed that,

940
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: I feel like and has come out on top afterwards.

941
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: But well, and like again my misunderstood king. I mean,

942
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't want to speak ill of Matthew

943
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: Perry at all, but I'm just saying that, like he

944
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. He was he's

945
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: fucking base and cool as shit. Yeah, and was all

946
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: like guess what I do whatever I want? To do,

947
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna eat a sandwich on a bench to

948
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: be in a band. Still to this day, I'm going

949
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: to be a bass player and an affecting alternative.

950
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: Band dog star.

951
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna smoke cigarettes and hang out at the arc

952
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: light and just be like extremely real and cool and

953
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: have an age appropriate girlfriend in the art world and

954
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: just be like my awesome self. And like that's the

955
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: thing is that, like most people wouldn't go that far

956
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: to even know that he's an actual, cool in reality person.

957
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 2: And this is again, I don't know him personally. I'm

958
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: just saying this is everything that I've gleaned from information

959
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: that I've heard elsewhere. But I'm just saying that, like,

960
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like that, you know, he

961
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: got such a bad rap for so so long that

962
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm satisfied that he just decided to

963
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: say fuck it and just do whatever he wants to

964
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: keep it.

965
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, he wasn't.

966
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh, he was trying to prove himself, like come on,

967
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: it so great, wonderful.

968
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: Well that's a great thing. Thank you for asking that, Nicole.

969
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: I hope that helped answer your question a little bit.

970
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: I think we just talked about how we like Keanu Reeves.

971
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: But I think there was an answer in there. I

972
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: think Millie gave you gave a good, good answer in

973
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: thereby steps. Yes, so thank you, Milly. Okay, So this

974
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: next question, I just thought this was funny, so I

975
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: wanted to put in here. This is from Jeff. He wrote,

976
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you've seen this movie, and

977
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprising you at this one, but hey,

978
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: loving the podcast, can you explain bo Is Afraid to

979
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: me and defend why? If it's possible I should appreciate it.

980
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: I got to the end hoping for some sense resolution,

981
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: and I'm still furious about it at least a year later. Help.

982
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: I will admit that design and cinematography were stunning. I

983
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: just missed the point. Thanks, Jeff. Have you seen bos Afraid?

984
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: Of course I have.

985
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, uh, you're asking if we can help you

986
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and know we cannot because I don't know.

987
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: That's a wild movie. Bo's Afraid is nutty? Did you

988
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: like it? Milly?

989
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna actually rip off somebody else's words, okkay,

990
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: because this is actually the most perfect description of what

991
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: I thought of it. If you google Bo's Afraid. There

992
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: is a Reddit thread from ten months ago. The title

993
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: of it is Boa Is Afraid twenty twenty three is admirable,

994
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: but unlikable.

995
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: It is an unlikable film. And here's a quick spoiler

996
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: for the ending. How can one really appreciate a testicle monster?

997
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I think my answer for appreciating this movie,

998
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: or like explaining what it means is when you see

999
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: the testical monster, how did that make you feel? And

1000
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: I think however that made you feel is the correct

1001
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: response to how you felt about this movie.

1002
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: So sometimes, you know, I'll just say from my experience,

1003
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 2: I have sometimes.

1004
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: I have the patience for art, yes, in that way.

1005
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 2: And when I say art, I meaning like capital a art,

1006
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: you know of like over ambition, thought, experience things of

1007
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: this nature like like again, like sometimes I have an

1008
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: appreciation for these things, for exercises in you know, just weirdness,

1009
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: I guess, and for some reason, like I had a

1010
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: little bit of attention for it when I saw it

1011
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: in the theater. I will say that the like last

1012
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: two thirds of the movie was grueling. The mom section

1013
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: was grueling. It almost felt like we were, you know,

1014
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: at the hardest part of the soul cycle class where

1015
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: you're just like doing the really hard climb and you're

1016
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: just like really your hardest pounding and you're just like,

1017
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't wait for this shit to

1018
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: be over with so I can go to Smoothie. That's

1019
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: kind of how it felt. And uh, but at the

1020
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 2: end of it, I did feel like I went through

1021
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: some ship, which is like, yeah.

1022
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: You know, like something the director already Astor described it

1023
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: as a Jewish Lord of the Rings. So and this

1024
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: was definitely his like, as they say, blank check movie

1025
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: where he had two huge hits and he was kind

1026
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: of able to make whatever he wanted, and he certainly did.

1027
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: There didn't feel like there was any editing or censorship

1028
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: of any ideas on that movie. I'm I still think

1029
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: about that movie. It's like upsetting and.

1030
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: I'll probably never see it again.

1031
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: I watched that movie while feeding my newborn baby. That's

1032
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: and that sort of steered into my mind too.

1033
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, anyway, Jeff, I don't know if that answered

1034
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: a goddamn thing.

1035
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: But you're you're in good company, Jeff, is what I'm saying. Okay,

1036
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: one more here, Millie. Okay, this is from Shannon Hi,

1037
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Milly and Casey loving the pod so far. I am

1038
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: a movie lover married to a woman with a short

1039
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: attention span. She's always down to watch a movie, but

1040
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: if it's longer than ninety two one hundred minutes, I've

1041
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: lost her. I'm looking for some recommendations of solid thriller

1042
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: slash horror movies that are under ninety to one hundred minutes.

1043
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: Thanks in advance, Shannon.

1044
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna cant. I'm gonna concel Shannon with some

1045
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: of this, because, first of all, I feel like longer movies.

1046
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: There's kind of like two big for me. It feels

1047
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: like there was two kind of big waves of long

1048
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: ass movies. One was like sixty seventies and one is now.

1049
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: We're in the second coming of the long ass movie.

1050
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: Yes, And I don't know why that is.

1051
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1052
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: I just think that like every once in a while,

1053
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: a generation of movie makers like I got a lot

1054
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: of shit to say, I'm gonna make a movie called

1055
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: bose fraid, make it three hours long, and that's just

1056
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: the way it's gonna be. So I hear you, I

1057
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: hear your partner, yea, Because I'm going yeah, oh yeah,

1058
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: anything over ninety minutes. It is you're like you do

1059
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: look at.

1060
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: Your watch on a school night. It's tough.

1061
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: Yes, So here's what I'm gonna suggest. Number one, it

1062
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: may be that you gotta go older, and I'm talking

1063
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: about like thirties forties, which I don't know, you know,

1064
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: temp check on that for you, you and your partner,

1065
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: whether or not you can actually like stay awake to

1066
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: see like, you know, the original Frankenstein or something like that.

1067
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: But if you want a.

1068
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: Short horror or thriller movie, you can't. You cannot do

1069
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: any better than like something that was made in like

1070
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty five, Like they were not making a lot

1071
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: of long movies back then. I mean I talked about

1072
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: Mad Love a couple episodes ago, which is the Peter

1073
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: Lori movie from nineteen thirty five about the rogue Hands.

1074
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: These are Surgeon with the Rogue Hands. I mean that

1075
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Speaker 2: shit is an hour and eight minutes. Like you could

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Speaker 2: fucking watch two of these joints in the same amount

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Speaker 2: of time that it would take to watch Like I

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Speaker 2: don't know the remake of any eighties horror franchise that's

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Speaker 2: out in the movie heater right now. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, so go in that direction if you

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Speaker 2: if it's not like too fuddy duddy for you to

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Speaker 2: watch like old old horror, those movies are short as hell.

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Speaker 2: But then also, I don't know, there's a couple of

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Speaker 2: like I mean, I feel like some of the eighties

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Speaker 2: stuff feels under ninety minutes. Like I mean these kind

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Speaker 2: of like franchise movies like Child's Play or the Jason movies.

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Speaker 2: Like if they're making a lot, if they're making like

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Speaker 2: twelve movies in a series, likely they're not all gonna

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Speaker 2: be like three hours long. So think about that too,

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Speaker 2: Like these of like really storied, famous, long running horror

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Speaker 2: franchises from the.

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Speaker 1: Yes Millie, I I'm sorry for I was laughing, but

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're like, we don't want to we need

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Speaker 1: something that will keep attention. I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: like an old ass nineteen thirties movie is gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, to each their own an.

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Speaker 2: Hour, it is minutes. Casey, if you can't watch, like,

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Speaker 2: if you can't coast on old vibes for an hour

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Speaker 2: and eight minutes, it's like, you're right, you got you

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Speaker 2: gotta you gotta think about some medication, perhaps like it's

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Speaker 2: like fire up. Then that long?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have a few answers here. So one is

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Speaker 1: a movie we mentioned last week with Brian Sour Cube

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Speaker 1: Cube is like an Our hour thirty from nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: A group of strangers awakened to find themselves placed in

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Speaker 1: a giant cube. Each one of them is gifted with

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Speaker 1: a special skill and they must work together to a

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Speaker 1: scale been endless maze of deadly traps. I love Cube.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Good Sexy Beast Jonathan Glazer's Sexy Beast from two thousand,

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Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's with Ben Kingsley ray Winstone.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Ray Winstone is like a retired thug in Spain and

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Speaker 1: Ben Kingsley comes back to retrieve him for another job.

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Speaker 1: And then uh, Evil Dead two hour and twenty four minutes.

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Speaker 1: I love Evil Dead two. Don't need to watch Evil

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Speaker 1: Dead one to know what's going only. So those are

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Speaker 1: Those are some of my under ninety minute horror movies.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, man, I I.

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Speaker 2: Evil Dead two is like the Magic Mic two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, onder, No, you're one hundred percent correct. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: still haven't seen The Brutalist and I'm kind of gearing

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Speaker 1: myself up for that because that's a long end. That

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Speaker 1: that's a imposing film length, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, intermissions, intermission.

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Speaker 1: That that was our film advice. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: kind of film advice ultra because we usually do this

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Speaker 1: at the end of the show and just do one question,

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Speaker 1: but we were able to do a few of them

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Speaker 1: and spend a little more time with that, so that

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Speaker 1: was fun. Moving on to the end of our show. Unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: we finished another one, Millie.

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Speaker 2: We did we really employees picks.

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Speaker 1: Employees picks. What movie recommendation are you going to give

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Speaker 1: to the people today?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's gonna this is gonna be my recommendation based

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Speaker 2: on you know, the Irish cinema that we spoke about

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Speaker 2: in this episode, mostly because I want to rewatch this too,

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking, what if we alrewatched it together

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Speaker 2: and then you can email us at dear Movies at

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Speaker 2: exactly rightmedia dot com. We can chat about it.

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Speaker 1: We should do a watch party sometime online. That would

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Speaker 1: be fun, wouldn't it, Dude?

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Speaker 2: I would love that actually put a p I don't

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01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: know how we can do that. So I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about this movie the other day because it was kind

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Speaker 2: of a huge I mean, I wouldn't say it's a juggernaut,

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01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: but it was like a huge thing when it came out,

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Speaker 2: The movie Once from two thousand ello.

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Speaker 1: I saw that movie at the premiere at Sundance Film

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Speaker 1: Festival in two thousand and six years and Glenn Hansard

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Speaker 1: was there and sang a little song afterwards. I love

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Speaker 1: the movie Once.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not seen it since it came out.

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Speaker 2: I remember crying a lot during it. It felt very

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Speaker 2: emotional for me. It was very romantic for me, and

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Speaker 2: I love the like I love a movie about like

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Speaker 2: creative collaboration, and so I was like, oh, this is

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01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: like I don't know what I was thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, they should remake that movie Once and

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Speaker 2: do it about like I don't know, get like get

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Speaker 2: a K pop star and like some you know, a

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01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: young like get it like a Phoebe Bridgers and a

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Speaker 2: K pop star together to make a new version.

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Speaker 1: Of Once Interesting an interesting pitch. Tell me that's not

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Speaker 1: a good I like that. I think they have to

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Speaker 1: do the song for the thing is that song Falling

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Speaker 1: Slowly is so good in that movie. I felt like

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Speaker 1: it was like I was like whoa. It was like

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Speaker 1: the music is good, and sometimes it's hard in movies

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Speaker 1: for the music to be Like movies about musicians, it's

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: like it's not a guarantee the music is gonna be good,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, get the whoever wrote the Shallow Shallow Shallow song,

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Speaker 2: huh my favorite song of the decade, and just get like,

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Speaker 2: somebody's gotta come up with a really good ballot. And

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Speaker 2: then you get like, you know, one of these K

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Speaker 2: pop guys to get it in with Phoebe Bridgers. Sure,

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Speaker 2: and there they do the song and it's like it

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Speaker 2: would be a great remake, and I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: just don't anyway. Bottom line is, that's my recommendation. Let's

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Speaker 2: watch once again and see if it's still good, see

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Speaker 2: if we still cry.

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Speaker 1: Excellent choice. I love that movie. I that's worth a revisit.

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Speaker 1: The movie I'm going to recommend is a nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: seven film, an Irish film called The Butcher Boy. It

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Speaker 1: was directed by Neil Jordan and it is about kind

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Speaker 1: of a a boy who has a is mentally unwell.

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Speaker 1: He has a violent fantasy world he kind of escapes to,

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Speaker 1: and his sense of reality really starts to disintegrate. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of like interesting fantastical elements to it, but

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Speaker 1: it's also funny and violent and kind of freaky. And

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Speaker 1: you mentioned her earlier. Sneide O'Connor plays the Virgin Mary

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Speaker 1: in it, and uh, it's it's really cool to see

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Speaker 1: her in this movie. And so I highly recommend Butcher

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Speaker 1: Boy by Neil Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Hey, pretty good. I've never seen it and it sounds

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Speaker 2: it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's dark as you might imagine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but excellent. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well wow, we did it unbelievable on how does your Irish.

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Speaker 2: Heart feel after talking about your homeland?

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Speaker 1: Oh, just filled like a pot of gold. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to Ireland. It's so beautiful

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Speaker 1: and gray and it smells like burning pete everywhere, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. We If anyone wants to fly us out

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Speaker 1: to do a live show in like Dublin, well we'll

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If anybody wants to arrange in the house that

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Speaker 2: they filmed the Banshees of it is Sheridan with the

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Speaker 2: donk the donkey, please email us.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well, if you heard some people get

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Speaker 1: their film advice answered kind of by us, and if

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Speaker 1: you'd like to receive any film advice from us. If

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: you have any questions or need a specific recommendation, or

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,160
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Speaker 2: That is right. Also, we're on social media, We're at

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Speaker 2: Deer Movies. I love you on Instagram and Facebook. And

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Speaker 2: we also now are getting people being like, why aren't

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Speaker 2: you on Blue Sky? Why aren't you on Blue Sky?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe we'll be on Blue Sky.

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Speaker 1: Are you on Blue Sky?

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Speaker 2: Listen? I am. The timing of Blue Sky for me

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Speaker 2: was so fucked because I was like, I was an

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Speaker 2: early adopter to Blue Sky, looked around, was like nobody's here.

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Speaker 1: I left, gotta go back, and now.

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Speaker 2: We're everybody's here. So now I'm like, should I restart

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Speaker 2: my account? And that's why I'm like, Okay, maybe I'll

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Speaker 2: start restart my account and also put the show on.

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Speaker 1: This Okay, well, so this is an ongoing conversation, so

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Speaker 1: we'll pick this up at a later date.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to follow us on Letterbox, which

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 2: is where we hang out and put our film diaries

1240
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Speaker 2: and whatnot, we are at Casey, Lee O'Brien and m

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Speaker 2: de Jericho. That's d E C H I R I

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Speaker 1: Look it up and follow us. I love when it

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Speaker 1: makes me so happy when people follow me on Letterbox.

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Speaker 1: I would say that's the social media platform that I

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Speaker 1: use most regularly and happiness. Yes, well, thank you again

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Speaker 1: for another wonderful episode, Millie, thank you for talking to

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Speaker 1: me about Irish stuff and uh, of course yeah, have

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Speaker 1: a happy Saint Patrick's Day. You do anything for Saint

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Speaker 1: Patrick's Day?

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Speaker 2: What what is Saint Patrick's Day? It's right before my birthday,

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Speaker 2: so I don't care, you know. I save all, I

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Speaker 2: save all my partying for my birthday. I die my

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 2: own river in the background green for my birthday.

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Speaker 1: So very good.

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Speaker 2: But for all those who celebrate, you know, have a

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Speaker 2: good one and we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production hosted by me

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Speaker 2: Millie to Cherico and produced by my co host Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel. Our associate producer

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Speaker 1: is Christina Chamberlain, Our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and

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Speaker 1: our artwork is by Vanessa Ilac.

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Speaker 2: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in

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Speaker 2: the entire world, The Softies.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hartstark,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Kramer and Millie. To Jericho, we love you.

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Speaker 2: Goodbye, Beker