1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor. I'm An Eries and I'm 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we're talking about nutritional yeast, which 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: apparently some people call neuch and I really don't like that. 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: I really do not like that. Okay, I did see 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: a recipe for Neutch show cheese dip, and I find 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: that straight delightful. Like I can't argue with newch Na. No, 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm not on board. I can't even explain why, Like, 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: there's no particular thing. It doesn't sound nice. It does, Honestly, 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: nutritional yeast doesn't sound nice either, but it's but it's fine. 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: I mean it's but it is nice. It tastes very nice, 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Actually it does. I I've used it quite a bit. Um, 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: not so much recently, but back when I was more 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: healthy than I currently am. Um, But I use it 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: as a cheese substitute kind of, because it does have 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: a flavor that can pass um. Yeah. I mean it's 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: good on its own, but if you're looking to cut 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: back on cheese, it is a way you could do that. Um. 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: And I remember making particularly like a lot of pastas 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: with it, and like topping it topping pasta. Oh yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: it's also good as a topping for popcorn. Well, I 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: love popcorn. Well sure, I was about to say that's 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: nothing's going to stop you from eating popcorn, but I 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: mean hopefully not. But this brings us to our question 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: nutritional yeast. What is it? Well, nutritional yeast is a 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: powder or flake that's kind of toasty yellow in color, 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: a cheesy or nutty and flavor, and is basically dried 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: yeast juice. That sounds so advertising. Allow me to explain. 28 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: We've talked on this show before about saccharo mices, Sarah 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Visier like, we've talked a lot about it because it's 30 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: a strain of yeast that's used to from an grain 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: into beer and juice into wine. It's used to create 32 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: air pockets and flavor and bread. It's the act of 33 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: ingredient in vegemite and door marmite, and is also responsible 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: for adding flavors to a whole bevy of things, from 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: worse to shear sauce to chocolate, all those good things. Yeah, 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: do you want to do it? Worcester sauce, Hey, Worcester sauce. 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, Lauren. It's like a major thing. I have 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: to do it. I have started mentally doing that now 39 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: since we did our episode on Worcester Sauce and I 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: still haven't seen I mean, that is literally the only 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: clip of that Scooby Doo series that I think I've witnessed. 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: So it's a powerful clip if you know. If you 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: have no idea what we're talking about, I guess either 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: google it or listen to that episode both probably both. 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeasts are microorganisms that in mass humans can use as 46 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: like flavor and nutrition factories. It's sort of the opposite 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: of assembly line manufacturing. Like in an assembly line, you 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: have each unit on the line work on one small 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: step in a many step process of creating a large thing. Yeah, 50 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: in a yeast colony, you have many units each creating 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: a small thing simultaneously. By the sheer number of yeast 52 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: organisms that you can grow quickly and easily in a colony, 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: you can get a large amount of work done. It 54 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: sounds like it should be a children's movie. Oh man, 55 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: I would watch the heck out of a micro organism 56 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: related children's film. Y'all get on that. Yeah, be you, 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: me and maybe three other people. So good, we'd be 58 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: very enthusiastic about it. Yes, Okay, more ideas for children's books. 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Here you go, yes um. In this case, the work 60 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: that you are asking a yeast colony to do is 61 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: to turn sugar into something better for us to eat 62 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: than sugar. When you feed yeast with cane sugar and 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: or beat molasses, they'll eat that and then use it 64 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to create stuff that they need to grow of vitamins, 65 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: per teens, fats, fiber. Perhaps the key ingredient that's created 66 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: during this process is called glutamic acid, which is a 67 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: component of some proteins and is what you're tasting when 68 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: you experience the flavor savory, sometimes called umami. It's in meats, cheese, soy, mushrooms, tomatoes. 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: In its sodium salt form, it's um on a sodium 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: glutamate or M s g M. And this is the 71 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: flavor that is going to be at work in nutritional 72 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: yeast anyway. So to make nutritional yeast, you set up 73 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: a tank where your yeast factory can get to work, 74 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and you wind up with a sort of fermented soup um. 75 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: You centerfuge out the bits you want, mostly like the 76 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: yeast cells, leaving most of the fermented behind, and you 77 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: wind up with liquid referred to as cream. Yeast the 78 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: terms in this episode or just very spectacular. I we 79 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: could set up some kind of like vote about whether 80 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: news or cream yeast is a worse newts creamy east 81 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: I could convince myself as like a cream sherry or something. Okay, 82 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean I'd had to do some some mental gymnastics, 83 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: but I could do it alright. But creamy east is 84 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: a cool thing. Um. It could go on to become 85 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: Baker's yeast because it's still active and alive. But in 86 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: the case of nutritional yeast production, you're gonna want to 87 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: pasteurize this creamy east to deactivate or kill the east cells. 88 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Then you slowly dry and or cook the cream yeast 89 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: and um, usually in roller drum dryers, which I just 90 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: learned about, and a really cool piece of machinery. Um, 91 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: they're these a steam heated drums, and you apply a 92 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: liquid to the outside of this heated cylinder. As it's 93 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: slowly spinning, it rotates and then creates a sheet of 94 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: dried material from the liquid. That sounds cool. It's just 95 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: really one of those simple things. Anyway, I can't mix um, 96 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, you get the sheet of dried material 97 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: and then you mill that sheet to the flake or 98 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: powder consistency that you want, and then you package it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 99 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: you do. Yeah. It's like, well, I didn't realize all 100 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: this stuff went into nutritional yeast, but I probably should have. 101 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: It doesn't just like grow on trees. No, okay, well 102 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: not yet anyway, science one day, one day. Some manufacturers 103 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: will add extra vitamins at some point in this process, 104 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: maybe when they're feeding the yeast originally, maybe after pasteurization, 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: in order to boost the nutritional content of the final product. 106 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Other strains of yeast can be used aside from that 107 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: one that I mentioned earlier, and researchers are psyched about 108 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the particular nutrients and a few particular species maybe like 109 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: being able to help us feed and cultivate a really 110 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: a plus gut microbiome um. But yeah, sacromices Sarah the 111 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Sea is the most common. It also sounds like either 112 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: a character in a fighting game, like a pirate ghost character. 113 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why pirate ghost is what I'm seeing, 114 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: or like a demon. A pirate ghost is a surprisingly 115 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: frequent fighting character. Yeah. I think it's because a soul 116 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: caliber I suspect, so soul caliber is one of those 117 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: classics it's one of the ones that me and my 118 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: roommates still play. And it has a ghost character, doesn't 119 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: it. It It has a pirate ghost. Yeah. Oh my god, 120 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm so used to my brain just banking up nonsense. 121 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: This is a pleasant surprise. Name is servante is something? Okay? 122 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: Well we got to the bottom of that mystery. Okay, 123 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: but back to a nutritional yeast. Yes, um, it contains 124 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: by the way, as I said earlier, but just to reiterate, 125 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: it contains no active yeast. Nutritionally yeast will not grow 126 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: in your food or in your body. It's super dead. Okay, 127 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: it is an ex yeast, all right. No zombies worries, 128 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: not that I'm personally aware of. Actually, that's when you 129 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: should be worried about zombie East science. We're giving a 130 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of whole work to science in this episode. It 131 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: has a couple of other nicknames, apart from nootch um, 132 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: hippie dust or yes she yes do you think? Sure? 133 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: Yes she? In the US, savory East flakes savory with 134 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: a U. In New Zealand, along with rufe facts, Bon 135 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Appetite called it nature's cheeto dust. Oh I like that? 136 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Like oddly magical? Does it's a pretty heavily like man 137 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: made product. But so I'm not sure if nature is 138 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: the right word, but maybe man's cheeto dust. No, that's 139 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: what cheeto dust is. Anyway, woman's We can we can 140 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this later. Yes, the word 141 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: yeast might come from the Old English word gist or 142 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: gist in the Indo European word yes, which meant to boil. 143 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,479 Speaker 1: And nutrition wise, it's a product that nutritionists and marketers 144 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: alike get excited about. A serving is two tablespoons or 145 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: about half an ounce, and compared with an equal amount 146 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: of like plain roasted chicken breast, nutritional yeast has twice 147 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: as much protein and a buttload more vitamins and minerals, 148 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: like way over your daily recommended value of several vitamins, 149 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: and lots of these are inconveniently bioavailable forms um, as 150 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: opposed to many meats where your body has to work 151 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: on processing them. So yeah, your body can use them 152 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: directly without having to make sure that you're pairing up 153 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: other nutrients to create those more other nutrients. Rights. Yeah, um. 154 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: It's also a decent source of fiber. It's low and 155 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: fat that can be a positive or negative depending on 156 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: what you're going for, but it does mean that um 157 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: nutritionally used does not provide some of the good fatty 158 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: acids and like specific minerals that animal proteins do commonly 159 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: contain if you are are using it as like a 160 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: nutritional supplement. By the way, it's better to eat that 161 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: two tablespoons, serving in like small portions throughout the day 162 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: rather than all at once, because your body can only 163 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: process so much of a given vitamin at a given time. 164 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: Anything over that you'll just excrete. So yeah, spread it out, 165 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: sprinkle it on everything, sprinkle it out throughout the rest 166 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: of your day. And oh man, side note, probably all 167 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: of us could stand to consult a diet ossian about 168 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: what we eat. But if you are choosing a vegan lifestyle, 169 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: please do your research, y'all. It's a valid thing, and 170 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: eating all or mostly plant and fungus based foods has 171 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: a lot of benefits. But getting a good complement of 172 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: nutrients just takes more mindfulness. So uh, you know, honestly, 173 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: if you're a vegan, you're probably into mindfulness and I 174 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't really worry, but I do. We care about it. 175 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: We do. That's why we bring out these old lady 176 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: ghost voises. Those are boy system carrying. Oh oh, and 177 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: nutritional yeast is light sensitive, meaning that you should store 178 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: it in a cool dark place or in the fridge, 179 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: which I guess is a cool dark place when you 180 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: get down to it. I don't know what goes on 181 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: in my fridge. It could be light in their heck, 182 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: could be waiting, just waiting. I got a new fridge. 183 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: So hopefully if we look at numbers, one million tons 184 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: of yeast are consumed per year. That is total yeast 185 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: for like baking and beer and pharmaceuticals and biofuel everything. 186 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: That total market value, by the way, is expected to 187 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: reach five point four billion American dollars by two nothing 188 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: to sneeze. That a lot of yeast money. It is 189 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: a lot of dough. Oh, thank you, thank you. I 190 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: was right off the out of this old hold it 191 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: right here. Oh and while I'm talking about different types 192 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: of yeast products, I wanted to note that nutritional yeast 193 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: is different than supplemental brewers yeast, which is also a 194 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: deactivated yeast, but it's usually found in tablet form. Yes, 195 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of types of yeast. Oh yeah, that's 196 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: a different episode yes. Indeed, on a commercial level, nutritional 197 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: yeast can be added to processed foods, fish, meat, vegetarian 198 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: protein substitutes, um. It can be in package snacks or 199 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: in meals. It can be in dietary supplements. And nutritional 200 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: yeast as a flavoring or supplement is getting more popular, 201 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: but I am not sure by how much. I couldn't 202 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: find any numbers on that. Yeah, difficult to get specific 203 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: numbers on nutritional yeast. Um. But as we talked about 204 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: at the top, sort of, it can be used for 205 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: all kinds of things on toast surfas popcorn pastas, and 206 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: that's because of its flavor. Vegans do frequently use it 207 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: as a cheese substitutor. I hesitate to use words substitute 208 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: because it's more like you're trying to get the flavor right. 209 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: It's not right. Yeah, I mean it's nice. It's nice, 210 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm trying to say. And it can 211 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: help products that you're making with nut milks or or 212 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: bean milks taste more like dairy milk. Yeah. It has 213 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: quite a long and interesting history, and I would say 214 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: about half of it is marketing and in a good 215 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: fun way. Yeah. Yeah, And we'll get into that after 216 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: a quick break for word from our sponsor, and we're back. 217 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, And we're back with 218 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: Antoine van numen Hook. Our hook according to rend and Stimpy, 219 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: is that which is I think? So? Yeah, that's the 220 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: sound reference that I'm working off of. That is so funny, 221 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: because didn't I mentioned another episode? It's some episode. It 222 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: all gets blurry up in here. But how looney Tunes 223 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: the source of much of my cultural knowledge? What was 224 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: the petras Eni episode? Anyway? One. Antoine van Lewin Hook 225 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: was the son of a brewer and often considered the 226 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: father of microbiology and one of the first microscopist, and 227 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: he was one of the first to observe yeast under 228 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: a microscope in sight ce probably clear, but just in case, 229 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: just in case. For a while, a lot of this 230 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: yeast did come from beer barm, but it wasn't well 231 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: understood and was very unpredictable. This is where the word 232 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: barm he comes from. Yeah, I love it. And producers 233 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: moved away from this yeast from beer barm. A eighteen 234 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: twenty four cookbook called a New System of Domestic Cookery 235 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: featured a recipe for Mrs Rundell's yeast, and it goes leslie. 236 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: Thicken two quarts of water with fine flour about three 237 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: spoonfuls boil half an hour. Sweeten with near half a 238 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: pound of brown sugar. When near cold, put into it 239 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: four spoonfuls of fresh east in a jug. Shake it 240 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: well together and let it stand one day to ferment 241 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: near the fire without being covered. There will be a 242 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: thin liquor on the top which must be poured off. 243 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Shake the remainder and cook it up for us. Take 244 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: always four spoonfuls of the old to ferment the next quantity, 245 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: keeping it always in succession. Yeah. Yeah. Beer barm is 246 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: the kind of foamy stuff that happens on top of 247 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: a Vada beer that's brewing, And as you can possibly imagine, 248 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: just taking that can lead to other flavors and a 249 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: certain amount of unpredictability in Yeah, the microorganisms involved, not 250 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: that they knew at that point all the time, I mean, 251 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, keeping it always in succession is a 252 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: great way to inter recipe, just saying. In entry from 253 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: the eighteen fifty five Canadian Settler Guide described the process 254 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: of getting bruise yeast and using it to make bread. 255 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: A story included in the guide tells of a woman 256 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: shocked that her neighbors didn't know how to make yeast. 257 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Now she taught them this valuable piece of knowledge. Um, 258 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: and from that time they were able to make a lightbread. 259 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: The girl quote shrewdly remarking to her mistress that a 260 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: little help was worth a great deal of pity. Huh. 261 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Enter Louis pass store in eighteen fifty seven, and he 262 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: figured out fermentation, and he believed that yeast were alive, 263 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: and we're behind this fermentation thing. Scientist Emil Hansson took 264 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: this research and expounded on it in isolating yeast into 265 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: its pure form. With the industrial revolution in full swing, 266 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy six, brothers Charles and Max Fleishman, yes 267 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: that Fleishman revealed their manufact yeast at the Centennial Exposition 268 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, which was attended, by the way by over 269 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: ten million people. It was a big hit, and in 270 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: nine they added a research lab to their New York 271 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: factory and it looked a bit different than we're used 272 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: to though, this yeast. At first it was sold in 273 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of like these cakes, like yeast cakes. Yeah. Yeah, 274 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: they were moist too. And they went bad fairly quickly. 275 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: But going back to the Fleishman's for a minute, they 276 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: were immigrants. Charles was trained in yeast production and distilling, 277 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: and along with his businessman James Gaffe, they started mass 278 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: producing yeese at a factory near Cincinnati. After the yeast 279 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: ate the starter, it was rinsed, pressed into cakes, and 280 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: wrapped into foil. And that's where you get that. Before rinsing, 281 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: what they probably had was that cream yeast thing that 282 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier. Oh yeah, descriptions of the 283 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: texture of these yeast cakes remind me of like calin 284 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: clay or like some of the powdered like rice flour 285 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: cookies or candies that I've had, uh, sort of melt 286 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: in your mouth, but also sort of chalky and pasty, 287 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: and you know with that sour, stale beer smell that 288 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: you get off of a vegemiter marmite. So a lot 289 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: of things happening at once. Yeah, and yes, they were moist. 290 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: They were made of fresh yeast rather than dried yeast, 291 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: which is what you'll find in those little packets today 292 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: that you might buy in a store. And because of this, 293 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: they attempted to sell them quickly they would go door 294 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: to door. Charles and Gaffe also opened Fleishman's Distilling Company 295 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: to make gin with the grain alcohol left over from 296 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: yeast production. Smart very. While the development of refrigerated rail 297 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: cars was a boon for Fleishman's, the development of bread 298 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: you could buy in a store was nuts. So what 299 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: do they do? Hired a physiological chemistry professor to look 300 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: into the health benefits. This professor's article, published in the 301 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: Journal of the American Medical Association, claimed that eating yeast 302 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: could cure boils, acne and other skin ailments, and all 303 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: kinds of gastro and testinal distress, all cards. The association 304 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: of yeast with health food really took off in the 305 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties and thirties when folks figured out that yeast 306 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: has a good amount of B vitamins. The word vitamin 307 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: wasn't coined until nineteen eleven. Yeah, when the word was coined, 308 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: no vitamins had actually been chemically isolated UM, and there 309 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: was some debate among scientists about whether vitamins existed at all, 310 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: But that did not stop food manufacturers like Fleishman's um 311 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: from marketing them, especially once they were confirmed to exist 312 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: and vitamins were all the age in the US around 313 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: this time. I had to include this ad copee. I 314 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: had to beer is good for you, but Schlitz the 315 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: beer was Sunshine Vitamin D is extra good for you. 316 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: I love it. It was. It was from a particular 317 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: Schlitz product, us Schlitz Sunshine Vitamin D beer from ninety six. 318 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: It's like sunny Delight, but with perfect I'm not sure 319 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: why we don't see that anymore. Yeas was touted as 320 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: a cure to all kinds of things. One ad for 321 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: Fleishman's yeas read this new yeast is the biggest advancement 322 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: in treating constipation in a generation. And then it would 323 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: help you quote break the cathartic habit, which, by the way, 324 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: is not like a nun pun. It is like taking laxatives. Right. Yeah. 325 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: Because because sluggish quote sluggish intestines at the time were 326 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: considered a serious affliction. Um or we're being called by 327 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: some people a serious affliction. I'm one British doctor wrote 328 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: in nine I should like to prescribe less feasting and 329 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: more yeasting. But can't you feast on yeasts? This is 330 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: the point I missed. The point of the ad copy. 331 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: It went over my head. And I will say, to 332 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: be fair, eating yeast cakes does work as a laxative, 333 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: So they weren't lying about that part. No, perhaps exaggerating things, 334 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: well exaggerating, I mean, not being entirely scientifically straightforward about 335 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: many other things. But the laxative effect they had down. 336 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: But there are a couple other things, just a few 337 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: that they claimed it would help with headaches, skin, hair loss, cold, 338 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: giving you pep. You're advised to consume a yeast cake 339 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: at least thirty minutes before eating to keep your digestive 340 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: track on track. Three yeast cakes a day, presumably, I 341 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: would imagine for three meals a day. A free pamphlet 342 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: pushed by Fleshman's was called Yeast Therapy and four million 343 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: were distributed. And here's another ad. I love the fastidious, 344 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: successful women of today know how to avoid the damaging 345 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: effects of clogged intestines. The health effects were said to 346 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: take months before anything noticeable happen. That's very convenient. Yeast 347 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: cakes were sometimes advertised as creamy, wholesome candy, uh and 348 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: that people should try a let's just buy of but 349 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: you had. Another ad described the taste as pungent and appetizing. 350 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: It was everywhere that fresh food was sold, like soda fountains, grocers, cafeterias. 351 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: You could eat them as is, or crumble them up 352 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: into water, milk or fruit juice. Tomato juice is the 353 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: one that I saw specified. You could also eat them 354 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: on crackers or in peanut butter or jam sandwiches. Yeah, 355 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: I suppose you could. I mean you couldn't not do that. 356 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: There were options and it was everywhere. But this push 357 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: to associate yeast with health was not done. It was 358 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: not and we will get into that after we get 359 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: back from a quick break for a word from our sponsor, 360 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: and we're back, Thank you sponsor. All right. So this 361 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: campaign promoting yeast health benefits it was a huge success. 362 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: The marketing firm behind it launched a contest calling for 363 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: positive testimonials. Eight thousand responses rolled in like this one. 364 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: I am a mail carrier, and it may sound strange 365 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: that a man walking twelve miles a day, six days 366 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: a week should suffer from constipation. After the first month 367 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: of yeast eating, I noticed a remarkable difference. And when 368 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: Saturday night came, I still had some pep left Fleishman's 369 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: yeast has relieved me completely constipation, and I feel tip 370 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: top all the time. The campaign integrated photos of the 371 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: writers of these testimonial writers beginning in to be quote 372 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: absolutely accurate in every detail. But according to one of 373 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: the photographers working on this, that's not really what was 374 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: going on. He said he would go door to door 375 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: all over the city and would list the ingredients for 376 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: a good photo, a good shot, and these were quote ingenuity, tacked, eloquence, endurance, 377 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: and he said many of the people he was looking 378 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: up had moved, weren't in the city anymore, Many were sick, 379 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: many were too old, too young, too fat, or to 380 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: quote helplessly, ugly, helplessly that's harsh, sir. It is. Between 381 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: nine and nine Fleischman's net profits went up seventy five 382 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: cent sales were two point four or five pounds were 383 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: capita in the company accounted for almost nine of the 384 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: yeast industry in They started radiating their product to get 385 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: some vitamin D in there to further their vitamin cash. 386 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: A vitamin D was said to prevent quote soft boned, 387 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: weak muscled teeth, a prey to decay. Discovery of a 388 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: new strain of yeast that contained vitamin A, which reportedly 389 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: could help decrease your chances of getting a cold, also 390 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: was added in there. Yeah, and if you listen to 391 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: our milk bonus, those vitamins DNA were being added to milk. 392 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: At around the same time as more and more vitamins 393 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: and minerals were discovered, Yeast marketing got even bolder if 394 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: you could believe it, claiming it was better for you 395 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: than fruits and vegetables. Quote, it supplies protective substances, your 396 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: stomach bowles need to work properly, and that no other food, 397 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: even fruits and vegetables, gives you enough of them. Who Yeah. 398 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: These big claims raised the figurative eyebrows of the US government, 399 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: specifically the Federal Trade Commission the FTC. They sent Fleischmann's 400 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: a cease and assist letter in and seven years later 401 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: the FTC was victorious. Yeah, but at its height before 402 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: the crackdown, yeasts could prevent pimple's fairy tongue, fallen stomach, cure, 403 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: bad breath, elimination of crying spells, increase of the skins, 404 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: self disinfecting power, the sharpening of intellect, so many things 405 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: that they claimed it could do. One ad said it 406 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: restored a woman's ability to walk. Huh, yeah, they water 407 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: into wine. Actually, guess it turns juice into wine after 408 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: a while. M Why didn't they go all in on 409 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: that right? Missed opportunity. By the nineteen thirties, yeast was 410 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: a staple. The first crossbreeds of yeast entered the market. 411 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: Fleishman developed active dry yeast as a way to get 412 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: soldiers fresher bread during World War Two, and it was 413 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: a big deal. It didn't need to be refrigerated and 414 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: could be activated quickly. More and more improvements over the 415 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: next few decades had the raising time of dough eventually 416 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: lead to the corely Wood bread baking process in nine 417 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: s one. This is a high volume, continuous industrial process 418 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: that many say sacrifice flavor and texture for speed. Yeah, 419 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: and these days a lot of dry yeast is used, 420 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: but yeast cake or fresh yeast or compressed yeast is 421 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: still available. It does still need to be refrigerated and 422 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: will spoil even then after about two weeks, but some 423 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: bakers prefer it to dried yeast products, and professional bakeries 424 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: today often do use it. If you're looking to use 425 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: it in home baking, you might not find it in 426 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: consumer shops, but it's sometimes available online, or you could 427 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: ask your local bakery if you can buy some off 428 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: of them. Here in Atlanta, I hear that Star Provisions 429 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: will sell some to you from their bulk supply. Oh cool. Yeah, 430 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: the public lost access to end interest in eating yeast cakes, which, 431 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: as it turns out, is a good thing because after 432 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: all this drop off in fresh yeast availability around World 433 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: War Two. More recent research was done um by folks 434 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: with less of a steak and the results and it 435 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: revealed that eating living yeast is not beneficial. It's not 436 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: going to cure my crying spells and pimples. I'm sorry, No, 437 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: whatever will I do? I feel a crying spell coming on. 438 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: That is no substitute. I guess I'll just have to 439 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: let it out. Uh. Yeah, it's not good for you. 440 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Don't eat fresh yeast cakes advice of the episode. But 441 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: the research community never gave up on yeast at large 442 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: as a nutritional supplement. In the late nineteen fifties, research 443 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: into the mineral selenium started showing that a it's an 444 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: important mineral for mammals like rats and humans, and b 445 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: that uh saccara mices Seravisier is a good source of it. 446 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: I think modern yeast nutritional supplements started as pills in 447 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: the sixties based on research like this, and by the 448 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: mid seventies, amid the rising trends of healthy living and vegetarianism, 449 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: tasty nutritional yust as we know it today started showing 450 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: up on store shelves. It was called out in a 451 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: number of cookbooks as a good substitute for cheese flavor 452 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: in non dairy recipes like tofu cheese and gravy throughout 453 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, and by eighty it was being used 454 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: in package of vegetarian and vegan foods like a like 455 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: tofu soysage, sostage. Yeah, it was hard to single out 456 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: the history of nutritional yeast. Yeah, I oh man, Like 457 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: all all of these references that I collected at the 458 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: end here we're from like primary sources, like mostly marketing materials, 459 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: which I guess most of the research in today's episode 460 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: was from as far as I could find known as 461 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: really written a comprehensive history of how we got to 462 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: nutritional yeast and how I don't know I want to do. 463 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: I need to look into it more. Yeah, this is 464 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: what we found thus far, and I think it's a 465 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: pretty good overview. Oh and so much fun marketing. Yeah, 466 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: I love that old ad copy. Um, but that about 467 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: brings us to the end of this this episode on 468 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: nutritional yeast, and it brings us to listen. That was 469 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: an evolution reference that Lauren won't get as as we discussed, 470 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: it's one of the few movies she's walked out on. 471 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: But Selenium is a big plot point in it. Just 472 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: a f y I to anyone out there, all right, 473 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: Katie wrote, I recently listened to the gum episode and 474 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: quickly remembered a fascinating, albeit slightly disgusting attraction in the 475 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: town I currently go to school at. Yes, I attend 476 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: cal Poly in San Louis Obispo, California, and in downtown 477 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: s o l Are. You probably call it slow, but 478 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm not from around there. Um is a place called 479 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: Bubble Gum Alley. It's an alley between some shops where 480 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: the walls are covered in thousands and thousands of pieces 481 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: of chewed gum. I didn't find out about this place 482 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: until a day or two after I moved into my 483 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: dorm freshman year. A group I was with for orientation 484 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: went downtown and Bubblegum Alley was one of the places 485 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: we stopped that Unlike some of the people I was with, 486 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: I refused to even step into the alley, simply preferring 487 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: to observe it from a foot away from the entrance. 488 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: But able to see the place in all his scory, 489 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: I was both horrified yet mesmerized by the site, as 490 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: I could not begin to imagine how many pieces of 491 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: bubble gum are on the walls. I recommend looking this 492 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: up online to see what it looks like if you dare. 493 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: For me. It was a small part of the things 494 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: I've experienced at college so far that I'm probably not 495 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: going to forget anytime soon. Oh no, I won't forget 496 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: that either. I'd be so afraid to touch gum. Oh yeah, yeah. 497 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: Both of us like like like retreated all of ours 498 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: to us. An Tonia wrote, I am a longtime listener 499 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: since your first episode on Champagne. Oh hi, who watched 500 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: the recently released film The Favorite It said in England 501 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: during Queen Anne's reign, so the very beginning of the 502 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: eighteenth century. Late in the film, as Abigail, played by 503 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: Emma Stone, revels at her fancy digs at the palace, 504 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: she proudly proclaims, my maid is on her way up 505 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: with something called a pineapple. I guess most viewers thought 506 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: it was just some random joke, as evidenced by this 507 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: time article uh explaining the lines historical context. But I 508 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: already knew about it having listened to your episode on pineapples. 509 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 1: That episode remains one of my favorites. Yeah. Oh, and 510 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: I still I My roommate and I are rewatching True Blood, 511 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: which I'm a little bit ashamed about, but man, I 512 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: love that goofy show. And uh, we're in the third 513 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: season right now where the King of Mississippi comes in 514 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: and he has this very fancy dining room that was 515 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: designed by his very fancy boyfriend. And uh, and there's 516 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: the centerpiece of this dining table is this tower of 517 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: fruit with a pineapple right at the top. And I 518 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: was like, show designers, you're doing it, you're doing it, 519 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: you're feeling it. You're my friends so happy the crown 520 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: a top this fruit tower. Well, kudos to them designers 521 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: on True Blood and also this movie the favorite um 522 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: I've mentioned before on the show. One of our coworkers, 523 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: Channeler he's really good friend. He's very excited about things. 524 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: He's always very excited. That's one of the things I 525 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: love about him. But he's always very excited about getting 526 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: me to see a movie. And right now he's trying 527 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: to get me to see the favorite. You've seen the favorite. 528 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: You've got to see the favorite. I can't believe you 529 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: haven't seen the favorite. All right, let's go check it out. 530 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: All right, it's got pineapple. Yeah, we'll laugh too loudly 531 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: at that part. Perfect. Thanks to both of them for 532 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: writing in. If you would like to write to us, 533 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: you can. Our email is Hello at savor pod dot com. 534 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: We're also on social media. You can find us on Twitter, Facebook, 535 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: and Instagram at savor pud. We hope to hear from you. 536 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: We have a store online where you can buy like 537 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: T shirts and like laptop cases or I don't know, 538 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: like yeah, oh man, you can hold liquid in something 539 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: with a picture from us, not of of us. We 540 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: thought that would be creepy. Possibly, yeah, but it could 541 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: be a cup of liquid that says heck in bacteria poopy. 542 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want to drink out of a Mugga says that, 543 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: I know I would. I know you would too. The 544 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: store is UM is run by T Public, who helps 545 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: us with designs and they're mad geniuses. It's at t 546 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: public dot com slash savor. We hope to hear from you. 547 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: If you're into buying stuff I don't know, check that 548 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: out UM. Thank you as always to our super producers 549 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Howard and Dylan Fagan. Thank you to you for listening, 550 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: and we hope that lots more good things are coming 551 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: your way.