1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Welcome in third hour of play and Buck kicks off 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: right now. We've got a lot to dive into with 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: all of you. You want to get some of your talkbacks 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: and calls us hour for sure, So line them up, 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: light them up, get them going. You'll know the phone 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: number of the talkback is on the iHeart app goes 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: to play in Buck page, and you should subscribe to 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: the Playing Buck podcast net work. And also you can 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: press the little microphone send us those talkbacks. Play something interesting, 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: some breaking news that you have responded to or do 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: you have brought up here we can get into a 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: little bit more. But it looks like there's some action 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: going on in Fulton County. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into that here in a sec. Buck. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: But first fed no change. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: On interest rates that just happened in the last two 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: minutes or so for those of you out there. Stock 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: market not moving very much. You mentioned the SNP five 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: hundred it hit a new high today and it did. 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: It's down a little bit, but. 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: Just kind of a no news making news situation with 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: that one, Like, yeah, status. 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Quo, nothing changed, that's the expectation. 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: But yes, I just want to put that out there 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: to the extent somebody's sitting around there like, what's gonna 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: happen with the FED rates? 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Why didn't play? And Buck tell us, well, there you go, 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: all right now Atlanta. 29 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Clay, believe it or not, not everyone on this 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: in this audience. Is that a Bloomberg terminal doing the 31 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: by sell thing like Gordon with what interest rates are? 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Because I think it's actually the most important thing when 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: it comes to unfreezing our housing market. 34 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 35 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: And until we get back down to reasonable five percent 36 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: rates on mortgages, I don't think things are going to 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: change a lot. But we do have this major FBI 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: raid going on right now, and you've got to think 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: some of you will find this more exciting news. But 40 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: that depends depends on whether or not you're you're making 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: making magic happen on Wall Street. 42 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: Here we have. 43 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: FBI agents seen carrying out a search warrant at an 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: elect hub in Fulton County, Georgia. UH And this is 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: obviously related based on the reporting to twenty twenty. It 46 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: is now twenty twenty six, and we're doing some going 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: to look into the twenty twenty situation. It is not 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: immediately clear for sure what they're looking at, but Fox 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: News and others are reporting that it's probably having to 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: do with the twenty twenty election. I think that's a 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: safe bet. I don't think they're just going into a 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Fulton category of all the possible election places to be 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: sending the FBI right now, the one that was more 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: at the center of the twenty twenty stop the Steal 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: conversations than any other. Oh wow, I guess we're like, 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: you're allowed to say these things now. Remember when you 57 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: were actually banned from even talking I truly mean this. 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: You were banned on YouTube. I can't even remember all 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the rules Facebook too. If you talked about stolen election, 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: you could get kicked off of social media. And that's 61 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: very because they did that for COVID stuff and we 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: found out they were wrong. So people like me were 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: getting booted and shut down by YouTube and others for 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: saying things like masks don't work to stop the spread, 65 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: which of course they don't. 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: Uh, and all this stuff. 67 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: Now we may have an interest situation where more facts 68 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: will come out about twenty twenty based on the investigation, 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: and we will once again have to revisit what is 70 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: disinformation and just what is the powerful using their power 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: to shut down, dissent, conversation, questions, all of that. Clay, 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: we don't have anything on this right now. The DJ 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: did not comment on it directly, but stuff's gonna heat 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: up in Fulton County, Georgia. I don't think they'd send 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: the FBI in there unless they were at least they 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: had some idea of what they were looking for. 77 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 78 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: Look, I think that increasingly, even for people that wanted 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: to pretend nothing happened, the twenty twenty election is like 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: a stareoids in Baseball era, where you look at the number, 81 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: and eighty one million votes for Joe Biden makes a 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: lot of people say hmm, because you go look at 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: what happened with Trump in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, twenty 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: twenty four. Every one of those elections, his support grew. 85 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: And then you go back and you look and you say, 86 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: wait a minute, Joe Biden got way more votes than 87 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: Hillary in twenty sixteen and Kamala in twenty twenty four. 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: What's actually going on here? Now here is the challenge, Buck. 89 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: We are sitting at what is it over five years 90 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: since the twenty twenty election, and I understand a lot 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: of people out there want there to be some consequences 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: for this. The statutes of limitation are becoming huge barriers 93 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: to bringing charges in cases such as these, and I 94 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: think as we go forward that's going to become even 95 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: more and more the case. And so I don't know 96 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: what they're looking at in particular here. 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: I would love to know. 98 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 3: Maybe there's some involvement relating to the Fannie Willis investigation. 99 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: Remember the charges that were brought in Georgia. Trump one 100 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: Georgia in twenty sixteen. Trump won Georgia in twenty twenty four, 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people look at twenty 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: twenty and say what happened in that election? And so 103 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: we'll see if anything comes out of this. All we 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: know is again reports that the FBI is conducting a 105 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: raid in Fulton County, and we don't know anything beyond that. 106 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: I get you the following voter fraud five year statute, 107 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: Campaign finance Violations five year statute. 108 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: You know, there's a mail fraud. 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a whole bunch of these things that 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: would not be eligible based on being tied. I'm barred, 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: but maybe there's you know, by the way, there's a 112 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff, and we saw this used against Trump. 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Maybe there's you know, a conspiracy to deprive rights and 114 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: you get into some civil rights thing, and you know, 115 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways. There's a lot of ways 116 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: that if the people making the decisions about charging want 117 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: to get you, they can get you. 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: So we'll see where this goes. 119 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: I honestly, I have low I'm just gonna tell you 120 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: I have low expectations. And this is also where I 121 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: get into trouble. But I'm right because just like in 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: other things like this where I've said. 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: Oh, the JFK files, They're going to release the JFK 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: files and we're going to find out all the truth, 125 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: all the. 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: It's like, guys, I was in the CIA. Okay, trust me, 127 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: if there was really cool stuff in the JFK files, 128 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: someone would have left the CIA and written a book 129 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: about it and gotten rich. Okay, there's nothing. There's nothing 130 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: that fascinating. There might be a little thing here, a 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: little thing there, but if it's that juicy a secret, 132 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't stay secret that long. It's really hard to do, 133 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and especially when you get all these different people that 134 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: are like have of these theories and conspiracies. I know, 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: people gonnayellopt me for this. 136 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: I like it. Yell at me. 137 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: Clay's not the only one who likes when you yell 138 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: at them. 139 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: I like it too. 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: But on this one, Clay, oh what they just kept 141 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: the They kept the microfilm or they kept the videotape 142 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: microfilm spy stuff. 143 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: They kept the videotape that has the. 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: Poll workers like stuffing the ballots and some come on, 145 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: it's been six years. They have had plenty of time 146 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: to clean this up. This is my concern. This is 147 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: always my concern about the Epstein stuff too. By the way, 148 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't just stick around. They don't just keep the 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: smoking gun listed and bagged up as smoking gun. 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: I do think on Atlanta in particular, something something is. 151 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: Look, we've got a big election that's coming up, a 152 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: Senate race that's gonna happen in Georgia and Atlanta is 153 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: it seems to me a place where a lot of 154 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: untoward aspects of election have been allowed to take place. 155 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: I think that's fair to say. And again, I just 156 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: come back to poor Brady Anderson. Maybe he's out there listening. 157 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: Buck. 158 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: Brady Anderson was a guy who hit fifty home runs 159 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: out of nowhere. And suddenly, you know, he looked like 160 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: Popeye when he was in the batter's box, and everybody said, yeah, 161 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: you know, maybe something's going on here. I think the 162 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: eighty one million is increasingly difficult to justify, even for 163 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: reasonable rational people. Will there be consequences though? This is 164 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: where you and I agree. I think we're over five 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: years from that election. I think the consequences, frankly, were 166 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: Trump came back in, won the popular vote, swept to 167 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: a commanding victory in twenty twenty four. I think you 168 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: have to accept that as the ultimate consequence, because everything 169 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: that he's been able to implement since is far more impactful. 170 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 3: And I will say Trump in twenty twenty four winning 171 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: that election is more powerful than Trump would have been 172 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: if Trump had won in twenty twenty. 173 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: Now, the border. 174 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: Wouldn't have been wide open, they wouldn't have gotten ten 175 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: million illegals. I don't think we ever would have hit 176 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: nine percent inflation, all those things. But I think Trump 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: this term is far more powerful than he would have 178 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: been if he had won in twenty twenty. And so ultimately, 179 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: that's the revenge that I think is the most satisfying, 180 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: is that victory and we'll see how that goes. 181 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean to me, the biggest thing when you're talking 182 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: about elections and election and integrity is making sure that 183 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: they're secure going forward, and I haven't seen a lot 184 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: of action on that. One of the challenges, of course, 185 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: is that a Democrat controlled states, they don't want voter 186 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: idea and they don't want any accountability, and they want 187 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: to make it as wide open and easy as you know. 188 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: They want to treat voting like they treated the border, 189 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: a total mess of lawlessness, where there's no accountability and 190 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: no one can know what's going on, or except they 191 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: know what's going on, which is the destruction of the 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: whole system. So I think on this one, like I said, 193 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't hold you hold your hopes, hold 194 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: your hopes outer up? Do you hold them outer up? 195 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: I would your hopes hopes up up? All right, yeah, 196 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: I hold out your hopes. Do what do you do 197 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: with your hopes? 198 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Point is, I wouldn't get too excited about this one 199 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: base one I've seen so far. They have some reason 200 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: for this. They're gonna look and see what they might 201 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: find some interesting information. But I'll tell you this doesn't 202 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: matter what they find. They could have a video that 203 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: they find of Democrat operatives sitting around laughing as they 204 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: twirl their mustaches about how they stole the election in 205 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: Georgia for Joe Biden. Not a single Democrat will believe 206 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,239 Speaker 1: it as it happens under this administration. 207 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Not one. 208 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: So just just get ready for that. Doesn't matter what 209 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: you want to talk smoking gun. They could find an 210 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: actual smoking gun, and they could find video that says 211 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: like this is exactly what happened, and they still clay. 212 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: Do you disagree that the Demo crats with savs forty 213 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: percent of Democrats thought that Trump actually hacked voting machines 214 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: with Russia's help in twenty sixteen. 215 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 216 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: I actually think what it might create is maybe we'll 217 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: get more honest reporting from a variety of sources, because 218 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: in order to get the warrant, you have to have 219 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: provided some form of probable cause that a crime might 220 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: have occurred. I would like to everything gets leaked all 221 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: the time, Buck, I would like to know what the 222 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: warrant says and what they're searching for. Let me give 223 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: you a positive news story that doesn't have anything to 224 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: do with the FED. PAMBONDI just posted that we have 225 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 3: arrested sixteen Minnesota rioters for allegedly assaulting federal law enforcement. 226 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: They're posting all the photos of those arrests, and she 227 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: says there's more to come. I mean, I think a 228 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: lot of you are with me and saying it seems 229 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: like there's a lot more than sixteen people that have 230 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: been rioting. But that is at least a positive story. 231 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: And she says, we expect more riot, more riot arrests 232 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: to come, and they are posting all of the mug 233 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: shots of people in Minneapolis. Maybe possibly this is part 234 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: of the compromise that was put in place since Tom 235 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: Holman is there, that they are able to now go 236 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: and arrest people who are violating and rioting surrounding these incidents. 237 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: It is it is a step in the right direction. 238 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: Do you want me to hit the wampwomp button or 239 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: you want me to hold off? 240 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: Oh poor wampomp. 241 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: I mean the wampwomp that happens, my friends, is they're 242 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: going to be prosecuted. Guess where in Minnesota They're. 243 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: Going to be released and there's not going to be 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: any serious consequences for them. I feel confident that you 245 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: are correct. 246 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: There wom but still the right move, Still the right move. 247 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: Gotta do what you gotta do. 248 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: All look, speaking of right moves, owning gold. 249 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: Is a right move. That's a smart one. 250 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: It's no longer reserved for wealthy bankers twirling their mustaches, 251 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: business owners, foreign governments. It's available to you and me. 252 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: I just got some gold last few days. It arrived 253 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: courtesy of my friends at the Birch Gold Group. I 254 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: mean I bought it, but they sent it to me. 255 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: And I'm a big believer in gold. I'm a big 256 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: believer in having gold. I have had it for many years. 257 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: And guess what, the money that I spent on gold 258 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: was well spent because it's a whole lot more valuable 259 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: now than when I bought it. And that continues to 260 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: be true for the long term. Gold over the last 261 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: twenty years a up seven hundred percent. 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Welcome back in Clay 282 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: Travis Buck Sexton Show. 283 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 284 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,119 Speaker 3: As we are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program, 285 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: Kevin in New York City DDWR listener, he's reacting to 286 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: Buck not knowing Madden Summer. 287 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 7: All. 288 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Let's listen. 289 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 7: Oh my god, when I heard about Buck's lack of 290 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 7: knowledge of who Clay Summer all was I almost met 291 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 7: Clay's worst way to die. I almost choked to death 292 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 7: on my chicken wing. 293 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: We don't want you to die reacting to Buck's lack 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: of sports knowledge. Pat Summer All, by the way, doesn't 295 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: have the same name Clay, but that is very funny. 296 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: And we want you all to live forever. Nate in 297 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: New Hampshire. Nate what you got for us? 298 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to say that I think we really 299 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 7: all need to give a lot more respect to the 300 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 7: ice agents and police and law enforcement in general. And 301 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 7: I have a short story that I want to share 302 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 7: with you real quick. I'll be as brief as I can. 303 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 7: About twenty years ago, when I was young and stupid, 304 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 7: I made a poor choice with alcohol and I got 305 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 7: to rest in Okay, you know, and it was a 306 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 7: misdemeanor class B, which is not a very big charge. 307 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 7: But anyway, the police, I think they used successive force. 308 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 7: I mean they had about six or seven police officers 309 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 7: tackled me, they tasered me, and you know, it was 310 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 7: it was a it was a it was a terrible experience. 311 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 7: But afterwards, like the next day, like I really regretted 312 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 7: my my, my, I mean I could have been pissed off. 313 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 7: I could have been pissed off at law enforcement or something, 314 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 7: but I ended up. I wrote a letter, a thank 315 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 7: you letter to the police department for doing what they did, 316 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 7: because I realized that they are out there protecting us 317 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 7: and keeping our streets and cities safe. And you know, 318 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 7: I could have had a bad attitude. I could have like, 319 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 7: you know, not appreciated the police or been pissed off 320 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 7: with them. But you know what, they are out there 321 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 7: doing a difficult job. 322 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: And thank you for the call. Thank you for the call. 323 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you survived the tasing. I think that's 324 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: the first time we've ever had somebody call in and 325 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: say thanks to the cops for tasing me. So appreciate 326 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: Nate they are calling in. Law enforcement does have a 327 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: tough job. Have you ever been tazed? Buck, You ever 328 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: been like even like tested taste or anything like that, clay, If. 329 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: One of us was going to have been tased, you know, 330 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be you. 331 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. 332 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: I mean as part of or something like that, Like 333 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: they got pepper sprayed, the agency pepper spy. They subjected 334 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: us to pepper spray so that we would have familiarity 335 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: with it. 336 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: How awful is that? 337 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: Tained? It's very similar to imagine if you like the 338 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: hottest food you've ever sort of eaten, like the spiciest pepper, 339 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: imagine eating it while simultaneously rubbing some of it in 340 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: your eyes. And that's what it feels like. 341 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: So it's brutal. I've never been tasted. I've never been arrested, 342 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: but I appreciate Nate letting us know that it had 343 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: happened to him up in New Hampshire, and we're glad 344 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: you have been shot at, however, which I got been 345 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: shot at? Pretty impressive, pretty press shot at when while 346 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: rolling the head cheerleader's house in Nashville, Tennessee, in nineteen ninety. 347 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: Seven, nothing happened to the guy. It's kind of crazy. 348 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: Welcome to the nineties in Nashville, Buck, you got us 349 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: to take us to break here. 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Rapid 370 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: radios dot com go check it out, get some today. 371 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: Welcome back in to play and but and we are 372 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: join now by a very special guest, Joe Lavorgnia, Counselor 373 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: to the US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, A lot of 374 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: you will know him from his time as a senior 375 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: economist for a big Wall Street bank on CNBC and 376 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: other places. Joe, Welcome to the program. 377 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: Thank you, very happy to be on with you. 378 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: All Right, we're talking Trump Accounts. Big event today in DC. 379 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: Lot of talk about economy stuff from the President and 380 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: from Secretary Bessent. Let's start with Trump accounts. Though, what's 381 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: the idea here? Why does it matter so much to 382 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: this administration and to the American people. 383 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 5: Well, it is a down payment on the future. It 384 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: is a way to encourage newborns and those children that 385 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 5: will be born over the next several years under the 386 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 5: Trump administration to be able to partake in the capitalist 387 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 5: system where the US has been an engine of growth 388 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: and prosperity. And this is a way, a very novel 389 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 5: of roach, to get families in the game of investing, 390 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: building a nest day, creating wealth, creating financial stability. And 391 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: the Trump administration is going to start that with seed 392 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 5: capital of a thousand dollars, which then can go upwards 393 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: of another five thousand that could come through a combination 394 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 5: of either an employer, a family member, a guardian parent 395 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: to really build wealth and to get over time, young 396 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 5: boys and girls understanding the powers of compound interest and 397 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 5: how an investment today can pay huge dividends longer term. 398 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: Okay, this is so important. I think compound interest basic 399 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 3: financial literacy, and this is Clay, appreciate you coming on 400 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 3: the program. Is something that kids really desperately need to understand. 401 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, I think also a lot of 402 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: adults when you talk about compound interests. So let's say 403 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: that someone has an account starting at birth and they 404 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 3: basically or just let's say it's s P five hundred 405 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: index funds on average, what does the compound value of 406 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: that look like? 407 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: And over time? 408 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: What kind of dollars are we discussing for people out 409 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: there who don't really comprehend this. 410 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 5: And Clay, I want to also I should add that 411 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 5: Secretary best and highlighted that nearly forty percent of US 412 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 5: households have no direct equity exposure. Right, this is a 413 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 5: way really to make Americans part of the capital assystem. 414 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: It's an inclusive way to build wealth and to create 415 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 5: financial security. Regarding the compound question, if you put a thousand, 416 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 5: the government gives one thousand dollars in twenty twenty six, well, 417 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 5: then let's say that through a combination of either employment 418 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: or somebody making the maximum contribution. After the thousand, you 419 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: contribute five thousand additional every year for the next eighteen years. 420 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 5: Based on historical equity returns of roughly ten percent, that 421 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 5: money when you do math, could be worth slightly more 422 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 5: than three hundred thousand dollars. Leave it in another ten 423 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: years the historical returns again, with a maximum contribution of 424 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: five thousand per year, that money could be worth almost 425 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: one point one million. So the power of compounding is remarkable, 426 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 5: and people are going to intuitively innately understand financial literacy 427 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 5: when they go to their Trump account and they see, Wow, 428 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 5: look at how this thing is increasing in value, and 429 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: I add more, I could make more. I mean, it's 430 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 5: savings in real time. And I think it's going to 431 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 5: be a great tool of people are going to realize 432 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: we need to invest in the future, and they're going 433 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 5: to probably leave their money in there, and they're going 434 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: to then reap the benefits from being invested in all 435 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 5: these wonderful companies that create a lot of high paying 436 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: jobs and investing in and helping make the US economy 437 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: and continue to keep the US economy the best and 438 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 5: brightest in the world. 439 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: The easiest way to understand this that I always try 440 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: to explain to my kids and everybody out there, I 441 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 3: would encourage to do your research on this. Basically, if 442 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: you just buy s and P five hundred index funds 443 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: historically and leave them in there, every ten years, your 444 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: money doubles. So you start thinking about every ten years 445 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: a doubling, and you start looking at twenty, thirty, forty 446 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: fifty years of that. That's not even talking about putting 447 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: more money in as you are, which obviously makes it 448 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: even better, but every ten years doubling. I just don't 449 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 3: think most Americans really understand the value of starting early 450 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: and continuing to pile in. 451 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's right, and in fact, cla I'd say 452 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 5: it's even better than that. It's the simple rule is 453 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 5: your listeners is the rule of seventy two. You know, 454 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 5: if essentially, if you have a ten percent equity return, 455 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 5: your money actually doubles every seven years. If it's a 456 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: seven percent return, then it's ten years. So the numbers 457 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 5: are even better if you have historical returns approaching ten percent. 458 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 5: That we even suggest, but you're exactly right, that's just 459 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: an initial investment, you get those wonders of compounding. But 460 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 5: that's why we're hopeful, Clay. You know, today President Trump 461 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: announced all these wonderful US companies across all different sorts 462 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: of industries now are going to partake in the Trump accounts. 463 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: And because the thing is that employers can contribute up 464 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: to twenty five hundred per annum into a Trump account, 465 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 5: and that's not going to count as employee income. So 466 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 5: the ability to actually to add to it to get 467 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: those big, big returns is there. I think that's just 468 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 5: a great way the program was designed. 469 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: Speaking to you, Joel of Worny, a councilor to US 470 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Scott Vestant, a guy with decades as a 471 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: very well known Wall Street economist, and Joe. To that end, 472 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about something that's going to 473 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: matter a lot to everybody listening day to day. It's 474 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: also going to matter a lot to this administration and 475 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: in the upcoming midterm elections. It has to do with affordability. 476 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: Trump spoke about this recently in Iowa. This has cut eight. 477 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: I want to have you dive into this, but first 478 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: wanted to hear from the president. Play eight guys. 479 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 4: They came up. You know, it's a word that they 480 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 4: came up with, affordability. Every time you hear the word, remember, 481 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: they're the ones that caused the problem. And uh, the 482 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: first time you heard it that it was like a 483 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: few months ago. This lection's all about affordability. Well, they're 484 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 4: the ones that caused the problem, but nobody knows that. 485 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: You know, people forget. 486 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: So now, Joe, how can this administration Clay and I 487 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: have talked many times about, Yes, you look at inflation, 488 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: previous administration, worst inflation for forty years, that's established. How 489 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: do we bring this situation to a best possible outcome 490 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: this year for the American people and certainly for the 491 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: administration for the purposes of the referendum that's coming up 492 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: in the midterm elections. 493 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 5: Much of it has been done through the One Big 494 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: Beautiful Bill, or the Working Family's Tax Act, which it's 495 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 5: also known as And what I mean by that is 496 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 5: that bill is encouraging significant business investment in building factories 497 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 5: and expensing capex. We've already seen the capex come back 498 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 5: in full force. This is helping lift productivity growth, which 499 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 5: is output per hour, and that has also been galvanized 500 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 5: through a lot of business friendly deregulation where companies can 501 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 5: operate more officially. So you're seeing these big productivity gains. 502 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: Why does that matter. Productivity gains matter because rising productivity 503 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: is the lifeblood of rising living standards. When companies can 504 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 5: produce more with their existing workforce, they can pay those 505 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 5: workers more. So what the Trump administration's policies are going 506 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: to do is they are going to allow people to 507 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 5: take home more pay after tax, take on pay will 508 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: be going up, and because the economy is investing in 509 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 5: the future, it could produce more, which means prices could 510 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 5: come down. So what you have is a disinflationary boom, 511 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 5: strong growth led by productivity and prices falling because the 512 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: economy's productive capacity is increasing. Think of it this energy 513 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 5: the drill baby drill, the opening of federal lands, the 514 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 5: easing of permitting, and things of that sort of invest 515 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: in energy production. What's that doing. It's increasing output, but 516 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 5: at the same time it's lowering the energy costs. Take 517 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 5: that and multiply it across the economy. That's how you 518 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 5: basically get affordability to massively improve is you're allowing people 519 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: to keep more of what they have and you're giving 520 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 5: them the tools to produce more so that they get 521 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 5: paid more, and that's higher living standards. 522 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: This is a big picture question for you. 523 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: You've been involved in finance for a very long time, 524 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: and we're talking to Joe Lavornia. 525 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: When you look. 526 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: I was reading recently, Amazon went public with an initial 527 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: market capitalization of around five hundred million dollars, and then 528 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: it has risen up to multiple trillions of dollars, which 529 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: meant if you bought, you know, one thousand dollars in 530 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 3: Amazon stock when it hit public markets, you've made millions 531 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: and millions of dollars. Now there's talk about SpaceX. I'm 532 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: sure you've seen potentially owing public at evaluation of one 533 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: point five trillion dollars, which means a lot of the 534 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 3: value created in that company will never have been accessible 535 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: to so called average investors. The number of public companies 536 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: is declining overall. Are you concerned at all about the 537 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 3: way that the public markets are kind of being skipped 538 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: and all of the value is being created now in 539 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: private marketplaces, which doesn't give the average Joe investor the 540 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: same access to roaring growth marketplace companies as might have 541 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 3: existed back in the nineties or before I. 542 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: Understand your point about public versus private markets, and I 543 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 5: think that reflects the fact that you know, under unfortunately 544 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 5: many Democrat administrationship significant overregulation, so capital immediately went to 545 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: the private market instead of the public market. But what 546 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 5: we know is over the past year, we've had tremendous 547 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: growth in the stock market. The returns has beat most 548 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 5: money managers because US companies, many of which I don't 549 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 5: need to name the names, but you know them, have 550 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 5: done phenomenally well. They'll continue to do well. And as 551 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 5: the administration tries to encourage private capital to come in 552 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 5: and to innovate and create, I'm pretty confident, Clay that 553 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: we're going to see the US stock market continue to 554 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: perform well. It is what we call the high data 555 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 5: on the US economy, and President Trump knows how to 556 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 5: get growth moving. And I'm an optimist, so I'm not 557 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 5: particularly worried about that. But as we have less regulation, 558 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: you might see these public markets and I think rightly 559 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 5: so improved. You're going to see more merger activity. You know, 560 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: business is back, as the President says, there's tremendous investment 561 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 5: coming in the US, and the US is indeed the 562 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: hottest economy in the world. I mean, we've been growing 563 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: almost five percent the last three quarters. I mean, that's incredible, 564 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: and therefore the public markets are going to benefit from that, 565 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 5: and by default the people who are investing in these 566 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 5: Trump accounts are going to benefit as well. 567 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Joe, it's buck one more for you here, putting on 568 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: your macro economist tat for a second and maybe your 569 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: forecast or you know, no stradamus side of things, the 570 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: AI boom that we're in right now, in terms of 571 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: all the money that's going toward this stuff, Are you 572 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: a believer and sort of the elon model of this 573 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: stuff is all real. It's going to change the world 574 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: we live in, and the productivity gains are going to 575 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: be stratospheric. Or do you have concerns about a pullback 576 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: because we might be a little car before the horse 577 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: on this stuff. 578 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 5: I mean, look, you have you have a huge equity boom. 579 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 5: I mean, you've had a forty five percent or forty 580 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: percent increase off of the April lows. Is one of 581 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 5: the biggest recoveries post Liberation Day we've ever had, following 582 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 5: a fifteen percent stocktra down in the markets are understandably 583 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: optimistic about the future that the President has laid forth. 584 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 5: That's not to say there won't be corrections along the way, 585 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: but I think we have to look at the long 586 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 5: term picture in the fact that the US market is 587 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 5: so innovative, so dynamic, and you u s companies are 588 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 5: set to thrive. The presidents set the field for those 589 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: companies to thrive, and he's got people in leadership positions 590 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 5: such as the secretary. They're going to make sure that 591 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 5: private capital is accessed in the most efficient way. And 592 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 5: the AI story is for real. I think it's very important. 593 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 5: We're certainly seeing the productivity data and you know, as 594 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 5: there could there be you know, some spending that needs 595 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 5: to be cut back here and there, of course, but 596 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 5: that's you know, that's the nature of the cycle. But 597 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 5: I think generally speaking, you know, the optimism that we're 598 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: seeing in markets is well placed, Buck, because you're seeing 599 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 5: it in the GDP data, you're seeing in strong capex. 600 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 5: You're going to see it more on the investment side, 601 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 5: especially for factories, because that expensing is only going to 602 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: last three years, so that's going to see you're going 603 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 5: to see a big boom there, and I do think 604 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 5: you are because inflation will continue to move down, you 605 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: will see interest rates come down. The Fed should be 606 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 5: lowering rates further. That's going to use affordability. It's going 607 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: to make home buying more accessible to folks. And it's 608 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 5: all to me, it's all good news. And maybe I'm 609 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 5: that's too optimistic, but President Trump present a powerful influence 610 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: on that. I never want to sell the US economy short. Oh. 611 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 3: I think the economy is going to be flying and 612 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: firing on all cylinders. And like you just said, we're 613 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: over five percent for the fourth quarter, and man, if 614 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: we could get five percent growth in twenty twenty six, 615 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: it would be transformative on so many different levels. Joe, 616 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: we appreciate the time, thanks for coming on with us. 617 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: Thanks, guys, appreciate being on look. 618 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: I want to tell you online identity theft is a 619 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: silent crime. Happens without any alarms going off. The police 620 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: don't show up to arrest a cyber hacker. But it 621 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: can happen to every one out of four of us 622 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: one way or the other. Worst part is you won't 623 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: know when it's coming. That's why you need LifeLock. LifeLock 624 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: will monitor hundreds of millions of data points a second 625 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: for identity threats. 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Encourage you 642 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: to go subscribe wherever you are to all of our 643 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: different social media feeds. We've got a lot of awesome 644 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: new editions coming in the near future, including multi hours 645 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: of programming you will be able to get hooked up 646 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: on and that will make a substantial difference, hopefully in 647 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 3: you being able to have a little bit more fun 648 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: in your day and also certainly a lot more information. 649 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: Also want to encourage you. Look, I'm proud of how 650 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 3: much this company has grown. Crockett Coffee is dominating for 651 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 3: those of you out there that actually like America and 652 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: American history. And we're going to be in Texas, what 653 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: is it, March first, second, and third, Buck, We're going 654 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 3: to be in Austin, Houston, and San Antonio, I believe 655 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: in that order, at three of our big affiliates in 656 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 3: the state of Texas, and we're going to try to 657 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 3: do an event for Crockett Coffee at the Alamo where 658 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: obviously Davy Crockett lost his life back in eighteen thirty six. 659 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: But we are looking forward to our tour of Texas 660 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: that's going to be surrounding the primary. Believe it or not, Buck, 661 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: I know everybody is focused on a lot of different 662 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: stories out there right now, but we're just a little 663 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 3: bit over a month from the first major primary of 664 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six taking place in the state of Texas. 665 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: We will be there to hang out with a lot 666 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: of our crew there, Jesse Kelly, Michael Barry down in Houston, 667 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: who we appreciate. We love our affiliates in Austin, in Houston, 668 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: and in San Antonio. So we will be seeing you 669 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: guys there in the near future. Stock Market, Like you said, Buck, 670 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: you want some positivity to close out the show with. 671 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: We started it there s and P five hundred at 672 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: record highs as we are finishing up the Wednesday trading session. 673 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: And we appreciate Mark Alpern and Joe Lavornia for hopping 674 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: on with us. 675 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: And you talked about cracket coffee. I gotta tell everybody 676 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: they've also got to subscribe to our YouTube channel because 677 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: YouTube is gonna be twenty twenty six. Some people are saying, 678 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at YouTube. We're gonna look at YouTube. 679 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: It's gonna be big, gonna be huge, playing Buck YouTube 680 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: expanding by leaps and bounds. It's a big, big program 681 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: for us. It's gonna be a big, beautiful YouTube channel 682 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of fun stuff and even some YouTube 683 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: extras that we'll be doing all kinds of things. So 684 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: go to YouTube dot com and then play slash playing buck. 685 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying it right. Kind of boomer with 686 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: me if I get my own YouTube ron. Also a 687 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: little bit of a tease satellite radio. A lot of 688 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: you have been asking for some time. Serious XM Rush 689 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: never was on satellite radio. 690 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: May have some good news coming for those of you 691 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 3: out there, particularly our trucker audience that are on the 692 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 3: road all the time, jumping from one time zone to another, 693 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: one state to another. 694 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. 695 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 3: More coming on that soon expansion happening in a good way. 696 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: We love all of you. 697 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: We'll be back with you on the Thursday edition of 698 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: the program tomorrow