1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, We've got 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: pumpkin or Potato making its return. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Fred, you excited? Yes, I am okay, wait to get 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: them sweet potatoes. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: And then we got our Command Center Fantasy Podcast recap. 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Intern Caroline makes an appearance, and then Frogs don't wear 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Jordan's why is that? Stay tuned to find out. Welcome 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: to the Command Center Podcast. I'm logan faulting here with 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Red Smoot and Santana Moss with the shades on inside today. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: How you feeling about that? Bro? 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: It's cooler than cool. 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: It's cooler than cool. You're always and Fred? How you doing? Man? 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: Man? 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: You know your son have a game this week? 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 5: Yes, healthy reserve just like your daddy. Right now, everybody 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 5: in the house hurt. My hurt from drinking cows me 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 5: like I still haven't learned. I'm like, I'm a guy 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 5: that's never been allergic to anything, Like I have never 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 5: had anything off limits. None I can do, but I'm 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 5: learning now. I can't consume the milk drinking it. Wise, 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 5: I could eat cake. I could if it's being in something, 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 5: I could do it. But boy, I was I was 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 5: looking like the dude off of Goonies like three days 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 5: ago rock Yeah, I need it was bad, but so 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 5: I'm learning to listen. Maybe I need to just drink 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 5: fair feel. And Plus I had a milk addiction when 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: I was young, so I was drinking about the gap. 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Then you both, man, I used to like drink a 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: ton of milk. Yeah, so you're an injury reserve because 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: the milk. Let's Yeah, let's get into something that you know, 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: we don't really want to talk about, but we got 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: to talk about it. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna recap 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: this New York Giants game. And I think it's important 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: to say that we are not gonna be here kind 35 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: of bashing on the team. We're gonna give honest, constructive feedback, right, 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of it comes from the idea that 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: like when we played, like that's how you would do it. 38 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: You come here, you coming on Monday, you take your lumps, 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: you say how can I get better? And how can 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: we apply that to the next opponent. And I know 41 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there right now, a 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: lot of the guy guys on talk radio that are 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: just going all in, and I don't think that's very 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: productive because there's no, it's not. 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: There's no why. And I'm a big wife boy. 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 6: We've been in them shoes before, We've been to players 47 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 6: that these people are talking about. 48 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: So they don't normally know what's really going on. 49 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 6: They just see the outcome of the game and they 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 6: just want to say, Okay, I'm bashing everybody, any and 51 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 6: everybody who didn't. 52 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: Make a play, I'm gonna bash. 53 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 5: And that's the thing about it, and that's what gives 54 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 5: some of the local guys paralysis by over analysis. They 55 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 5: think they know more than they do and they just 56 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 5: looking at it on the surface and saying, oh, this guy, 57 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: this guy. 58 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: You don't know the. 59 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 5: Game plan, you don't know the matchups, you don't understand football. 60 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: And sometimes that makes me mad because I love to 61 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 5: listen to everybody. It's entertaining, but when you ain't got nothing, 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 5: like at the end of the day, it's easy. But 63 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: any given Sunday, we can get beat. People thought the 64 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills could not be beat. But you then the Patriots. 65 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 5: The Patriots treat them like they ain't never played ball. 66 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 5: For any given sunday in this league, you can. 67 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: Get beat or you can beat somebody. 68 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing about the league too, right, 69 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Like we're getting a little sidetracked. But to your point, Fred, 70 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: like every we're a bunch of professionals, right, a bunch 71 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: of a bunch of grown men with a lot of pride, 72 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches with a lot of and kids 73 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: and mouse to feet. That's exactly right, and you're gonna 74 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: find a way. You're gonna find a way to get better. Yeah, 75 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, like you have to get better because I 76 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: get like, we can't just tolerate like I've been on 77 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: bad teams. We've all been on bad teams, so you can't. 78 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: You can't tolerate losing consistently. You're gonna try and get 79 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: better each and every week, even if even if the 80 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: product on the fields are very good. 81 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 6: I think one of the things, and let me say this, 82 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 6: I think one of the things that makes the area locally, 83 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 6: you know, when it comes to the media so mad 84 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 6: and disappointed because it's some of the things that we've 85 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 6: been experiencing now too. Like when we played the game, 86 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 6: we didn't understand why we got the riff or the 87 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 6: you know, the flag from some of those folks. Sure, 88 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 6: but now as sitting in these seats that we've been 89 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 6: sitting in to watch it. 90 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 3: We can't wrap our head around either. 91 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 6: We like, bro, when it comes to just the players alone, 92 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 6: you haven't seen nothing like this. When it comes to 93 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 6: and you know, and for pound for pound, you feel 94 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 6: like you should be in every game. 95 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: You should be you should be in every game. 96 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 6: And when you really want to be critical or technical, 97 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 6: we have been in every game, and it all comes 98 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 6: down to now, who's gonna make a mistake first or not, 99 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And I feel like we've 100 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 6: seen our side, seeing the guys on our side make 101 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 6: more mistakes, and that's causing them to be seen in 102 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 6: this seat now to have to talk about some of 103 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 6: these losses. So that's how I look at the game, 104 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 6: and I look at it from a different lens man. 105 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 6: When I played it, I couldn't understand it because I'm 106 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 6: like man, I felt but. 107 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: You was in the belly of the bees. 108 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: Felt high about myself in my game, and I always 109 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 6: looked at myself as being a superior guy rather I 110 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 6: put up those numbers or not. And I looked at 111 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 6: the guys next to me, You on this field with me, 112 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 6: so obviously you that guy too. But I could never 113 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 6: wrap my head around then why we was coming away 114 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 6: the way we did as a whole. 115 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 116 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 6: But I see it differently now, and when I'm watching 117 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 6: the games and I'm seeing some of these miscues, I 118 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 6: understand why. 119 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: So that's something that I think is really interesting because yeah, 120 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: like you're you're in the moment and you think as 121 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: a player, you're gonna win the game. 122 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you trust the game plan. 123 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: Like there's been a couple of times Mike Careerry like 124 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: this is a work and that's like on a Tuesday. 125 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: But there's other times you're like, this is it and 126 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's like it's zero to fourteen, 127 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: and you're like. 128 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: What happened? What happened? 129 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Like we felt really good about everything we put in 130 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: this week. Practice was good, Meetings went well, and so yeah, 131 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: like it can be really tough, and so let's just 132 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: skirt start here, Fred like high level thoughts in the game, 133 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: and we'll kind of get into it as we go 134 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: through the show. 135 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 5: Well, we can also tell the people, Me and you 136 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: got an old dirty mattress rastling league in the meeting room, in. 137 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 7: The production room, textaw Jim. 138 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: Duggan versus co Kobe wearing there with a battle of 139 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 5: the minds. You was heavy own feeling like the offense 140 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 5: let the team down. 141 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: I was heavy on the defense. 142 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't think either one of those perspectives 143 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: is entirely wrong, but I think there's there's layers to you. 144 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's levity to it. 145 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: Now, what was it that you felt defensively? Why? 146 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 7: Well, because I just feel like they are the group. 147 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: And we said, who was gonna anchor this team hold 148 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 5: us to the ground until this offense find themselves. 149 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 7: That's what we out when the year started. 150 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: We're talking about a group that's been in the defense 151 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: for four years. We're talking about the group that shows 152 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 5: us week in and week out. Chase takes over game, 153 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: Pain takes over game, Allen pakes over game. They have 154 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: their spots, but never have they this year showed up 155 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 5: and as a group taken over the game. And if 156 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: you ever was gonna do it, if you were gonna say, 157 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 5: we're gonna dominate this one from the first quarter to 158 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, hands down, it was gonna be this week. 159 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 5: With a backup offensive line and four or five guys 160 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: off the street, backup quarterback, which I was more fearful 161 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: Tyrod than I was. Daniel Jones called that on this 162 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: show Wide Receiver Group. I said, this is the week 163 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: you dominate. Like Sam is eight games old. I'm only 164 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 5: gonna put so much in his left and say you're 165 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 5: responsible for it now because he has played so well 166 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 5: in spots and led the team most to the way. 167 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 5: Because if I had to pick and choose and say, 168 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: who's been the reason we won this year, has it 169 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: been the offense more than the defense or the defense 170 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 5: more on the offense? I will give the Allen a 171 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 5: slight edge right now. So that's where I'm att No, 172 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 5: you're supposed to be here. They supposed to get better 173 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 5: as the year go on and catch up with you. 174 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: So that's what disappointed me, Tanna when it came to that. 175 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: Don't feel you too, And I don't want to cut 176 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: you in Logan. 177 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: But the reason why I want to jump in because 178 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 6: I remember coming in yesterday and I said what I said, 179 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 6: not knowing that you and him might just went to 180 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 6: that spat and I walked into a damn bussaw red 181 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 6: were looking at me ready to argue. 182 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 5: I'm like, I just sat down, I am. 183 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: Here for this book. You know what I'm saying. 184 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: But I was saying. 185 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 6: The point I was trying to make is I felt that, 186 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 6: regardless of what went on Sunday, before Sunday happened, we 187 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 6: just go at least give up fourteen points. I feel 188 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 6: like our defense, even when they playing their best, fourteen 189 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: points should be giving up you know what I mean, 190 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 6: if anybody gonna score that many points. 191 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: All ye, they've been scoring thirty plus on our defense. 192 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: But I feel like with this. 193 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 6: Giant's offense, what I've saw with you know, with and 194 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 6: without you know, Dane Jones, yeah, fourteen points should have 195 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: been a given. 196 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, if you know, and I 197 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: feel like they did. 198 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 6: They spotted fourteen the first half and didn't give them 199 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 6: nothing in the second half. 200 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: So with that being said, that's why I felt highly. 201 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 6: I felt high about their performance, saying like, look anything 202 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 6: you played on the same team I played on. Yeah, 203 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 6: y'all used to tell us, man, hey, this was for 204 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 6: bingo and got your rest. 205 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 5: But our mindset was whatever it took, you know, That's 206 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 5: how we played. 207 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 7: If we knew we were playing against a team and. 208 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 5: They defense was okay, they defense good A fellas the 209 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: offense might not be have told us today it's up 210 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: to us. 211 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 7: Let's go out head and then you gotta realize, this 212 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 7: is what I. 213 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: Do know about defense. Most of special teams is made 214 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 5: up of defensive players. So we got two chances to 215 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: affect the game. We got we got defense and special teams. 216 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: Y'all got offense to expect to get afact the game. 217 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: I feel like the offense has chance to bear on 218 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 5: the ending of the game. The defense does more than 219 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: the offense, and I felt like we've been short. 220 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think so I don't agree. 221 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that entirely, like the sense that, like, 222 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: in terms of season, what the expectation was, I totally 223 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: agree with that the defense was supposed to be way ahead. 224 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: We have a young quarterback, new offensive coordinator, all those things. 225 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: But in the context of the game on Sunday, I 226 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: look at and I say to myself, like, cause you know, 227 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I have to pull clips for the breakdown, new clips 228 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: for coaches show, and when you go through and when 229 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: you're pulling clips out, like sometimes it's hard, man, sometimes 230 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: you're like, offensively, it was tough. I found like maybe 231 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: five plays and you're like, Okay, these will work. But 232 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: outside of that, on defense, I was in like the 233 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: fifties of like numbers and you go back and watch them, 234 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: and it was really hard for me to select down 235 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: to kind of say, oh, this, this one's better than 236 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: this one. Like I look at the defensive line, like 237 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Alan had two tackle for losses, pain At two tackle 238 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: for losses and a force fumble. Right, Chase had a 239 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: who bunch of pressures. Right, Montees was excellent in the 240 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: run game. Right John Ridgeway showed up in a big 241 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: dramatic way like that front, like almost every single play 242 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: they had sixty eight defensive snaps was good from them, good, 243 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, and then there was some moments of great right, 244 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: and so was it the dominance that we expected? 245 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. But then I look at and. 246 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I say, this team, this defensive line specifically has precedent 247 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: of like when teams call a balanced game plan, they 248 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: run the football, lot play action, keepers quick game, it 249 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: really negates their effectiveness. And when you look around the league, 250 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: like that's true of really good defensive lines. Right, that's 251 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: and so so I guess what I was kind of 252 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: calling attention to is like that was good, Saint Juice 253 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: was good, Fuller was good in the back end right, 254 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and there was some stuff with Jamen in terms of coverage, 255 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: but on the whole, like he did some good stuff too, 256 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: like a year. Yeah, So like, so that's what I'm saying, Like, 257 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: I think outside of maybe four explosive plays. 258 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: There you go, but they're going to four. 259 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: But but so sixty So sixty I'm not gonna say. 260 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: But hypothetically sixty four plays, sixty four plays were very 261 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: good yep. 262 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 6: So is that the blueprint to kind of keep on 263 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 6: defense at bait? 264 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. So, like, this is my 265 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: point is that when you can manage the game flow 266 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: like the Giants did and say we're gonna never depart 267 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: from our offense, we're never gonna have to get outside 268 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: of basically like a forty five of fifty five split 269 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: in terms. 270 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: Of rush the pass. 271 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: So what I'm going to tell you is I think 272 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: the offense dictates that more because the second we get up, 273 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: like imagine if the score was fourteen to zero and 274 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: the Giants gotta throw the ball and all of a 275 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: sudden we got to get eligibles out. 276 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: We can't have Chip Hill. 277 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: And now imagine that defensive line and imagine Tyrod Taylor 278 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: just getting eight back there. And so that's what I'm 279 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: saying to me. The offense went three and out and 280 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: they basically ran third down in the first half. I 281 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: think they had They had five three and outs, one 282 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: four and out in the first half. So if I'm saying, 283 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: if we needed to dictate game flow offensively to let 284 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: the defense be aggressive and let them eat, and so 285 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: to tennis point, they scored fourteen points, I'm like, ideally 286 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: you want zero, right in a perfect world, do you 287 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: want zero? But like, it's it's offensive football in twenty 288 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: twenty three. And I've said this on the podcast before, 289 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: so much of the rule base is geared toward the offense. 290 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: But it's also did lowest year in four years of 291 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 5: the defensive touchdowns passing the ball. 292 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: Defenses are catching up. They're catching up because now. 293 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: They went from blitz very blitz happy to coverage happier. Like, 294 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 5: so now they're in this being but don't break, but 295 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 5: make plays force the quarterback to beat you. Now, when 296 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 5: I play played with a young Patrick Ramsey at quarterback, 297 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 5: our view on. 298 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: Defense was different. 299 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 5: We can ever get behind fourteen to z Row, we're 300 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: not built like that, Like we got a guy learning, 301 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 5: they got a guy on the second. 302 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 6: Contract often to say we not built like that either. 303 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 6: But sometime that stuff happens. And we've seen that more 304 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 6: this year than we've seen any year. We've been playing 305 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 6: from behind more games than we've been playing you know. 306 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: And I said that the defense, not the offense, because 307 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: my offense is my youth. 308 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 6: But think about it, a great offense is almost makes 309 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 6: the defense a great office integrate. 310 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Defense, so that what I would say is like they 311 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: didn't score their first seven until the second quarter. Yeah, 312 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: so by that point we had had fourth rene outs. 313 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: And I think if we just do anything offensively, anything 314 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: at all, we got a six play drive, seven play drive, 315 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: kick a field goal. I'm not even sure that happens 316 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: quite honestly. I think the game flow feels totally different. 317 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: I think offense a defense is much pressure. All those 318 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: things factor in. So I'm not saying that you what 319 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: you're saying, friends, one hundred percent correct. Like the expectation 320 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: for the defense this year has been slightly disappointing, right 321 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: because we thought they were going to be a top 322 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: ten group, right, five top five group. Whatever it is, right, 323 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: I will say year to the year, there's a huge 324 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: regression in terms of defense efficiency based on strength of schedule. 325 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: Schedule a little bit better this year aggression in terms 326 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: of that category. The thing I'm a little disappointed in 327 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: this game specifically, right is you knew that Ring Martineau is. 328 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: Gonna come bring a ton of pressure. 329 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just seemed like we weren't prepared. It 330 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: seemed like we weren't prepared. However, when you watch the film, 331 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: different it was. It was prepared. We just didn't execute offense. 332 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: And did go to differency is coming into this year, 333 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: I'm expecting saying I'm not to execute all the time, 334 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 5: but expecting him to go through learning curves. Ain't in 335 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: on the job, and most people don't understand how hard 336 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 5: that is. Like who taking up the slack for who? 337 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: Like every team has that identity where oh right, it's 338 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 5: gonna take them a little long to get right. 339 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 7: We got to do it. 340 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 5: For the beginning of the year, I felt like the 341 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 5: offense have overdid their barons. 342 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 6: Expecting Sam to have his his day, his daily You know, 343 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 6: I guess you can call it ups and downs, but 344 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 6: I also expect the guys that played in this league 345 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 6: before to. 346 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: Be that much sharper, you know what I mean. 347 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 6: Like I mean, I feel like I feel like when 348 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 6: you have a when you when you're on the team, 349 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 6: and we've all been somewhere. 350 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: Where we had to carry somebody. 351 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 6: We've all been somewhere where we had to like even 352 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 6: in our households, you had to carry. 353 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: You to the line, or your wife might have to 354 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: carry you twice first. 355 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 356 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 6: So you understand that, Okay, if I'm carrying it, then 357 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 6: that means I got to do much more out here 358 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 6: to make sure that I can pay my bills and 359 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: I can do all the other stuff we need to do. 360 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 6: Same way in the game football game, if I feel 361 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: like I have a young quarterback as a receiver, I 362 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 6: gotta no matter. 363 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: What ball you throw to me, I gotta stay on 364 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: the morning to be open. 365 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 6: I gotta make sure I bring it down because I 366 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: want to boost his confidence. 367 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: I want to boost you know what I mean. 368 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to do that much more to make 369 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 6: sure that you know that seventy five percent of what 370 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 6: we're going to get from him, it looks like eighty 371 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 6: five to ninety percent. So that's how I feel when 372 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 6: I'm watching us offensively. We know he's young enough to 373 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 6: say it about that being him being young, that ain't 374 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 6: the question no more, what can I do more at 375 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 6: my position individually to make us better? 376 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that gets me is 377 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: that it was in the game offensively, there were so 378 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: many kind of physical and mental errors and with regards 379 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: to the game plan that just made it non tenable. 380 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: And even if you executed fifty percent efficiency, Yeah, you're 381 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: not looking at the it's it's totally different. 382 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: It's totally different and all. And I know what you 383 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: mean because you hold a standard there. 384 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 7: I totally I dig it. 385 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you said and we can run from the 386 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: young poor because he is he by week tweet'll be 387 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: he'll be a bitch. 388 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: But also coordinator is a first year coordinator. 389 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: So but like that's what like, So let me just 390 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: let me just double click on this for a second. 391 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: So like you look at the first drive right, and 392 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the exact sequence, but essentially it's 393 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: a run, a pass and then but yeah, no, but 394 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: then like it was it was basically like second and 395 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: seven second and eight and then it's a sack and 396 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: it's the left guard not picking up a protection or no, 397 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's uh, it's Nick Gates losing a physical 398 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: matchup against Lawrence. 399 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Right. 400 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: So then it's third and twenty two. You complete the 401 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: ball to Logan Thomas, you punt the football whatever. Next 402 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: drive you come out, you say, hey, we're gonna hit 403 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: some quick game, right, get Sam settle in. He misses 404 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: a five yard out, five yard hitch. Curtis sales that sucker, right, 405 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: So that's so. So Nick Gates has one, Sam has one, right. Ye, 406 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: next play is a run. It's against third and seven, 407 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I want to say, or yeah, third and seven. They 408 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: run a little t T inside, so dexter Lawrence stunts left, 409 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: Sadik goes down the chip. Leonard williams loops around. That's 410 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: another sack. So so Gates has one, Dek has one. 411 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: Sam has one. Right, next drive we come out, We 412 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: complete the ball to Curtis Samuel on that little lightning route, 413 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: the ten yard comeback on the outside where at max protection, 414 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: backstays in tight ends, stays in no pressure. Great job, right, 415 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: run the ball, get in this position and then on 416 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: it's we getting empty, empty, empty backfield, right, and they 417 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: check to a pressure. Look some Leno doesn't squeeze the 418 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: protection quite correctly. Right, there's a little bit of a 419 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: little bit of bleeding inside. Bates runs an out route, 420 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: maybe a little slow, balls a little high, so Leno 421 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: baits Sam have one. 422 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: Right. 423 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: So I just that's that's nine plays and that's probably 424 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's at least six six errors right there. 425 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: On nine plays forced is a little bit of both. 426 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: So what I'm saying, it's the defense kind of like 427 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 5: we're gonna pick up on what y'all leaking on, and 428 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 5: we're gonna do it. Because when I looked at their game, 429 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: our office line was intact. 430 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: I mean the deeds are starters. 431 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, they offensive line was five guys physically off the couch, 432 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: one guy that ain't played tackle since Flow Model TV. 433 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: So I was looking at it and been like, the 434 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: force era is gonna be from my defense plans. 435 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think when you look at what the 436 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Giants did again, and I think this is this is 437 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: again where there's like a departure in philosophy, is there, 438 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: Like we're going to lean in to run in the football, 439 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: We're going to lean into stuff that's a little bit 440 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: more conservative. We're gonna de leverage the offensive line big 441 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: time because they knew they knew that was where they 442 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: were a weak right. Tyrod made some plays off schedule, 443 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: that's great, right, But I think that they just played 444 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: a much more conservative game plan and they believe, they 445 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: trusted they kind of what you're talking about. They trusted 446 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: their defense, bise, right, and eventually they just kind of 447 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: wore it down, wore it down. They played the field 448 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: position in the game, they got the ball in that 449 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: kind of fifty five yard area, you know, they won 450 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: the field and then it's that it's a big chunk 451 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: play and then it's the defense one. They get him 452 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: in third and fifteen and it's a great backshoulder ball 453 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: to Waller on that touchdown. So I think they in 454 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: terms of that is what I thought we were gonna do, right, Yeah, 455 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: and we just didn't really do it. And I think 456 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: that's where the frustration is is lean on the defense, 457 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: but you got to be productive on offense. And I 458 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: think if you're not playing Contramentary and you were talking 459 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: about we talked about expectations for that for the offense 460 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: or for the defense, and I'm with that, like they 461 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: should be better, but also like they haven't been better, 462 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: like the Tannis point. So if they're not better, like offensively, 463 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: I need to call a game plan that helps's. 464 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: It's the fact that we ain't gonna be the exploded that. 465 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Helps them and that helps us. And there's and I 466 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: felt like in this game, the criticism was that Ebe 467 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: didn't call that game, but when you go back and 468 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: look at it, it was there's six man pros, there's 469 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: a quick game, there's there's an attempt to run the football. 470 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: Execution and Kyle's are two different. 471 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 3: Things, and it all balls down to just what you 472 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: saw a couple of weeks ago. 473 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: Do your job. 474 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 6: And I feel like as a player, man, I I've 475 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 6: been him. I've been him plenty of time sitting there 476 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 6: talking to the media and they asking me, you know, 477 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 6: what's not being done, and it all balls down to 478 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 6: me individually board the guys who out there with me. 479 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 6: So that's what I want these guys to understand, man, 480 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 6: Like you know, enough is enough when when you're gonna 481 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 6: draw the line and the third and say, look, man, 482 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: every man for theyself and guess what I'm holding. We're 483 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 6: gonna hold each other accountable for for everything we do 484 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 6: out there on the field. 485 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 5: I think John Allen spoken in French and he's spoken 486 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 5: in first time we've heard that. 487 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: We heard a spataitude like that from Johnna before. It 488 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 6: probably hasn't went national, like you know, showed his frustration 489 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 6: and I understand it because when when you really look 490 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 6: at it and when you watching the game, it's going 491 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: too fast for you to see all this stuff the process. 492 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: Then you get home and you turn that tape. 493 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: On, take your emotion out of like you've got a. 494 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 6: Guy every other play not doing his job or having 495 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: a mishap, and that's the hardest thing to do on 496 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 6: the road. 497 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 3: It's hard to win in this. 498 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 6: League period, and the penalties to penalties, mishaps and a 499 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 6: Communsian game and you're having a young quarterback. It can't 500 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: overcome all that stuff. One got a gift. So until 501 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 6: we see one gift, then we're gonna be sitting there 502 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 6: having these kind of discussions and I'm hoping we don't. 503 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 5: Well until we to one of them stands up and 504 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 5: say I'm the real slim shady, we ain't gonna know 505 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 5: who leading the team because right now we don't know 506 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: if it's the offense leader right now, it's Tris Way 507 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: Tris Wait, five hundred yards. 508 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: And punchs special team. 509 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, unbelievable than the black field goal. 510 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: You know. 511 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is until one side say I'm 512 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 5: the leader in twenty twenty three, let's fall in line, 513 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 5: it's gonna mean. 514 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: I think that's why I have a hard time with 515 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: this game specifically. It is because I felt like the 516 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: defense was the closest it's been to being like we 517 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: are we are the guy, and then the offense just 518 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: gave him nothing until the second half. And it looked 519 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: good and they did some stuff, they tried it, but 520 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: it's too late. Man, it's it's it's hard. And so fans, 521 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: are we understand your frustration, Yes, you can tell we're frustrated. Yeah, right, yeah, 522 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: And so let's talk about some of the things that 523 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: fans are really frustrated about. Okay, and in a in 524 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: a you know, every unanimous return, everyone's excited about this segment. 525 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Pumpkin or Potatoes and Fred, why is this segment called this? 526 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: Because I hate pumpkins, and I hate Jagger lanterns, and 527 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: I love potatoes. 528 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: But I love Halloween. You love sweet potatoes. I love 529 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: sweet potatoes. Potato who don't like French fries? 530 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: So pumpkins have no nutritional value? That as you said before, right, 531 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: so zero not in form take right or right or 532 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: pumpkin or sweet potatoes which are nutrient dense and layer 533 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: delicious pies all that right. 534 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 7: Yes, sweet potato fries. 535 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: So the first take that I people have talked to 536 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: me about, it's been in the comment section of our show, 537 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: and if you please leave comments that helps us out. 538 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: It helps us kind of answer questions is that Benjamin 539 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: Saint Juice got cooked lies. And so again when I 540 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: go through the place bred you and I we talked 541 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: about this. Yesay Tanna, you were in there too. It's 542 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: like that might have been the best game I've seen 543 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: him play. 544 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 7: Then we had what five six breakups? 545 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: I think it was six past break Hey. 546 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 5: First of all six breakups in the game for a 547 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 5: dB should mean don't come this way. 548 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 6: But we all know I played in the game before 549 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 6: you played in plenty of games. I've had five catches 550 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 6: ninety yards and dropped the big one. 551 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 7: And you and you it shouldn't be on the feet. 552 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 3: Only thing they saw with that drop. 553 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 554 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: I mean so at the end of the day, I'd 555 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: be the first to tell you too. I came here 556 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: too like Man. 557 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: Yea. 558 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 6: But when you really look at the game, like I said, 559 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 6: we all had to, you realized Man had a great Yeah, 560 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 6: but he gave up two explosive, too critical explosive plays. 561 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 6: And that's kind of the tail of the ball game. 562 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 5: And I think I think the fans are more frustrated 563 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 5: that Saint Juice, the veteran, the Chills veteran, gave it 564 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 5: up to the young rookie wide receiver who hadn't yet 565 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 5: found his footing. And your young wide receiver, that's just 566 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 5: like me going and I'm the five year guy and 567 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 5: I'm finna checker. You Santana mouse fresh out of Miami 568 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 5: one they got new Santana. I knew one route he 569 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 5: could run fresh out of Miami and that was a 570 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 5: gold round. And guess what I'm gonna make him run 571 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 5: some modeled in there. I'm gonna play that high and 572 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 5: tight alright with Jalen Highlight. 573 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: Same type of guy. 574 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 5: I haven't quite learned the route tree yet. Yeah, because 575 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 5: you've seen him on the comeback, I mean, on the 576 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: curl route he was. 577 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 6: He was like, then to. 578 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Your point, Fred, like he was the So I went 579 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: back and watched all their explosive pass plays, which was 580 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: like ten, he's like half of them though, So like 581 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: if they need explosive play, like that's where. 582 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: They're gonna go. 583 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, but uh yeah, so yeah, I 584 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: gave up two explosive plays. But then there's a PPU 585 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: in the end zone. Yeah, right, there's a there's a 586 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: RPO that they're trying to hit in the end zone 587 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: like on a drift and Saint Juice blankets that they 588 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: can't throw the football. 589 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: He had a couple on like hitches and slants. 590 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: Oh no, great break showing his limp and. 591 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: He was very quick and physical to diagnose stuff from 592 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: the run game. So like, yeah, there were those two plays. 593 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: And you said something yesterday, friend, I like you to 594 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: elaborate on it is is that you don't really care 595 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: about dv's getting beat deep all the time. It's like 596 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: not like fans care about it. And it's important to 597 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: the defense. 598 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 5: Part of the game though, Yeah, but you're like just 599 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 5: to say that, like it's certain points of the game 600 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 5: you cannot run from right And if I'm a play aggressive, 601 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: but she. 602 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: Was playing aggressive. 603 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 7: He was playing aggressive. 604 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 5: I might give up a thirty yard fade route as 605 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: long as I get to tackle long ain't ain't a 606 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 5: fade route that I'm looking at his elbows and his 607 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: last name still running. I'm fine with it. But you 608 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 5: can't ask me to do both. You can't ask me 609 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 5: to be aggressive and also take away everything. So the 610 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: thing about it is, I respect when a guy give 611 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 5: it up and get back up, because think about it, Saint, 612 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: you just gave up their fade route, then come break 613 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 5: the ball up. They try to fade them to the 614 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 5: other side. Four by one, he breaks the ball up. 615 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 7: I respect. That's what I respect because this is what we. 616 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: Do know is a corner, and it keeps points off 617 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: the board. 618 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 5: The only conner that they never got beat is the 619 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 5: coner that ain't never played. 620 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 6: And it's speaking of being aggressive, I think when you 621 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 6: really watch the game and you watch them explosive players 622 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 6: them probably the only. 623 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: Time he was as aggressive, you know what I mean. 624 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm one of what's going on in his head, 625 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 6: like darn, you know what I mean? The one or 626 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 6: two times I didn't put my hands on the guy 627 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 6: with the time I let him get in the steps. 628 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 5: On trusting your technique because on the other ones he 629 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 5: putting hands on people and then he don't have the 630 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 5: problem a getting beat. And you say he opened up 631 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 5: the gate on that first fade rap and now it's 632 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 5: about who the fastest, and he's not and he's not 633 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: the fast quick he's bigger than fast, but so dead 634 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 5: go on the two players you gave up, your technique 635 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 5: was bad. On the eight players you made, your technique 636 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 5: was tough, and they go to the in line that 637 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 5: cornerback when you when you see I ain't doing right, 638 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 5: that's when you attack me. 639 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: And I think, to your point, Fred, like, yeah, there 640 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: were times where he was pressing and he did great, 641 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: but there's also times where he played off and I 642 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: actually thought he did some great stuff there too. But 643 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: to Tannis point, it's like when to use those techniques 644 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: and how to maximize that. Because there was one uh 645 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: on the one that was we saw we saw yesterday. 646 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: It was a cover three cover No, it was single 647 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: high safety man coverage. He gets hands on why the 648 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: side and lets cam Crow get over the top of 649 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: it was. 650 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: Perfect, perfect, perfect, So I just think like he had 651 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: a really solid. 652 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: There's there's a screen like where it's the receiver coming 653 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: to blocker, but it's like full extra. 654 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 7: He made so many plays that we could keep going 655 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 7: about it. 656 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: So is say, no, he wasn't fully cooked. Maybe he 657 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: was likely. 658 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: Baked because baked potatoes they keep the nutrients in it, the. 659 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 7: Peels still on there. 660 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 5: One quite fried one of French fry like one net. 661 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: But did he get touched a little bit? 662 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 7: He did get tested a little because it's potatoes against pumpkin. 663 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: Nobody's deep fried for the holiday. 664 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: But I say to say that, but I think when 665 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: people say, oh, he got cooked. 666 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 5: And like, no he didn't, I don't look at it 667 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 5: like that. And you have to be a pro not 668 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: to look like that because they're going out. 669 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: The ie tics gave up. 670 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 6: He gave him a couple of plays that probably I think, 671 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 6: and I believe one or two of them they didn't 672 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 6: even score, you know, so it wasn't that detrimental to 673 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 6: the team. 674 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think, like, I mean, honestly, one 675 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: of the best games I've seen him play, like, even 676 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: including those plays. So I'm like when people say got 677 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: cooked him, like wow, because I think he you know, 678 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: in pff. They had him at eighty two, yeah, which 679 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: is which is pretty good, which is really really good. 680 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't say he got cooked. Is probably 681 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: a little extensive. But if you guys don't agree with us, 682 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: go watch the film. Let us know what you think. 683 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: I think we'll see what we're talking about. All right, 684 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers have get right games against us. This one 685 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: is interesting because it sometimes does feel this way and 686 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: I liked it. Tanna, what do you want you want 687 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: to start this one? Do you want her to start 688 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: this one? 689 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: Freak has started because I have something to say. You 690 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: know that's going on? Probably go away. He's talking about, Yeah, let's. 691 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 5: See we go Yeah, in a way, kind of feels 692 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: that way. He hadn't found his footing in the NFL. 693 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: He does, but he's an explosive play guy, very. 694 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: Explosive, but hadn't yet found that wigger room. 695 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: Waller, so that let's talk about Waller. 696 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 7: So like people thought he didn't like football no more. 697 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: Honestly, honestly, I think the thing with Waller that because 698 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: you said this, ty Rod at him just had a 699 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: better connection. 700 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 6: And I was afraid of it. And Daniel Jones for 701 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 6: like the ball was coming everywhere to him and he couldn't. 702 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 6: He wasn't settled with Daniel. 703 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, because Daniel don't know how to like your safety 704 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 5: val you're tight end. Daniel Jones don't like to be safe. 705 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 5: He like one read, two, read, and run. But sometimes 706 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: took folks who are realizing. And I've been him. 707 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 6: I've had a guy that had to catch passes from 708 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 6: many different guys within the season. And you can just 709 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 6: see when Tyrod throws the ball, it's like effortless. He's 710 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 6: throwing it boom nowhere to God knowing how to put 711 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 6: it on you. It seems like everything Daniel does is 712 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 6: coming at you like a trainah, and it's all fast. 713 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: It's not like and it's all scared letting you get 714 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: to your spot. 715 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 6: It's just putting it in the area and saying, hey, 716 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 6: go get it, grab it for me, you know what 717 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 6: I mean. So I'm watching him and he just seems uneasy. 718 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 6: When Daniel throwing the ball. 719 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: To well, like the one with Mail where he's like 720 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: running the high crosser like first off, great protection plan 721 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: right that leave both tight ends the tight. 722 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: End in the back ship. But it's like a long 723 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: chip like really guide him to like sometimes and lit 724 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: it scratch itself. 725 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, sometimes, like you've done chips before, 726 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: it's like boom and you're out, or it's like you're 727 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: just helping the tackle a little bit. This one was 728 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: like two hands on, you're walking to the tackle. You 729 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: got him, all right, I'm gonna go run my route now. 730 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 731 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: And so great protection plan because then on the inside, 732 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: when you chip on both tackles, you can double team on. 733 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: The one side of that, right, So great job, really 734 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: good plan. 735 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: But then on that one, because you have extra time, 736 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: Mayo's running with him step for step. And the thing 737 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: I love about this throw, it's exactly what you just said, 738 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: Tyrod just easy takes a little beat and then puts 739 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: it out and he's covered when he throws it, but 740 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: he throws it to the grass. Yes, and Waller is 741 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: faster than Mayo. Yeah, that's not a use breaking debate. 742 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 743 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: And then just he just runs right under it. Easy 744 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: catch right now, the one off schedule. He scrambles out 745 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: of the pocket to his left after getting a pressure, 746 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: so good job, d line. Yeah, and then throws it 747 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: to Waller who's uncovering back the other way. So I 748 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: feel like you as much as we're mad about the 749 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: production that Waller had and Hiatt too, I think you 750 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: got to give credit to Tyrod. Like I was not 751 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: in the camp with you. I was like, I'd rather 752 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: we disagreed on because I thought he wouldn't be ready 753 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: to go. But then I went back and thought about it, 754 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: and like he was a good starter in Buffalo, a 755 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: good starter, and I think we saw that version of him, 756 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: like the touchdown the Waller, Like you remember, we ran 757 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: this concept. It's I can't say the name of the 758 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: play because it's kind of profane, but it's like a 759 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: option to mic go vertical. 760 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, a perfect throw man, And so he's like, Okay, 761 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 6: the guy over the top of a little bit ain't 762 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 6: gonna be able to put it over there because the 763 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 6: guy could run. 764 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna put it here. Yeah, And that's why 765 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was the guys he threw it. Man, 766 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: you got it. 767 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 6: You had you had the middle linebacker, you had the safety, 768 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 6: and I don't know that was another safety or Olnna. 769 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: It was a hook player. It was a hook player, hook. 770 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 6: Player, but the damn tight end Waller he was in 771 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 6: in between all three of those. Yeah, And the ball came, 772 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 6: that's behind this guy here and he could just turn around. 773 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: That's a soft in the zone. The head butler would 774 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: get get it. He was there. 775 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 6: Or if you throw it any any more tighter, then 776 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 6: you got the linebacker getting it. He threw it perfectly 777 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 6: where none of those guys can touch. 778 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: And so in terms of receivers getting right, like, yes, yes, 779 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: they got right. But I also think he got better 780 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: quarterback play. And there's no defense for a perfect throw. 781 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: And I feel like there was a couple of those 782 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: in this game where Tyrod was very in himself in 783 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: his bag as we like to say, and made plays. 784 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: So David Jones can't make that throw. He hasn't this 785 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: year for sure. 786 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: He finally to beat us with his leg somehow. 787 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 5: And when you say, I see he was getting it 788 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: on against Okay AJ Brown, he didn'et got it on 789 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 5: against everybody. 790 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: But again, but but again and a young guy like 791 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's weird, like you had a tough matchup 792 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: for a young player. 793 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like I. 794 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 6: Just finna say, man, you know to what Fred and 795 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 6: to what were talking about this topic. I just feel 796 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 6: like we've been in situations where we've toyed with certain 797 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 6: things defensively and it just haven't hit home. We haven't 798 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 6: hit home with it, and it cost us to be 799 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 6: where we're at right now. So once you once you're down, 800 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 6: you know what people have to do to you, right yep? 801 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: Keep you know what I mean? 802 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 5: And once somebody get it on you, you gonna see it. 803 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna keep it next week. 804 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 6: That's why I wanted to talk about it last because 805 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, we put it on tape once. 806 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: That's the worst thing to do. In his NFL. This 807 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: league is a copy cat lead. 808 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 6: So now regardless of what you got going on back there, 809 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 6: we're going to give everybody the business because the one 810 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 6: thing we want to happen is the guys up front 811 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 6: to get home. 812 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: And I think we've been not hitting home more often 813 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: than we. 814 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 5: And kind of neglecting the guys in the back end. 815 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 5: It seems to be the NFL trend to run more 816 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 5: to man and to run protective shelves. 817 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: So now I look at it. 818 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 5: Whoever we played Aj Brown Top five receiving the League 819 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 5: in my book, Stepan Diggs Top. 820 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Five Top five quarterbacks too. 821 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 5: These are like so I'm looking at the people were playing, 822 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 5: and I'm saying, my god, besides, uh, Kyle Pitts, I 823 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 5: thought should have been balling year now Drake London, like 824 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 5: these dudes got talent. 825 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 6: And then and then he got quarterbacks that can you know, 826 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 6: believe that can do things, you know, break that. So, 827 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 6: I mean, that's another thing that people fail to realize, 828 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 6: Like these guys get paid too, and it's hard to 829 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 6: not allow a guy to do what he does if 830 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 6: it's not affecting the game that much. Like I've probably 831 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 6: seen one game that those guys getting off on the 832 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 6: outside has and that's to me, the Chicago game. 833 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 3: That guy just went went off. 834 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 6: Dj Moore, he came back home and he had a 835 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 6: he had a coming home party, you know what I mean, 836 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 6: he's from this area and he just had one of them. 837 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 5: And then what you were saying, now, if I'm saying 838 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 5: to you, the weakest received was we played all years 839 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 5: Dj Moore and. 840 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: Drake London the tangent your schedule, there's some good players 841 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: in there for sure, all right, So that's that And 842 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: so I guess that's kind of a that's. 843 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: Kind of a that's kind of a sweet potato take. 844 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: I think that's on, but I think there's layers to 845 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: it that we kind of talked about there. All right, 846 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: I hear this one probably the most of anything is 847 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: run the ball more. You got to run the ball more. 848 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: And I'll start with this one. I think, yes, you 849 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: should run the ball more, but they're but it's not 850 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: even that, Like it's just about being afishing offensively. Like 851 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: we've said that before in this show. You got to 852 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: be efficient offensively, and right now, our run game is 853 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: not efficient. We're not efficient, and we are more efficient 854 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: in the second half. We find exposive plays in the 855 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: second half of games, we kind of throw our way 856 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: into a good running game. But I think, like if 857 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: for fans to say we got to run the ball more, 858 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: we have to cultivate a more nuanced rushing approach, right 859 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: creating angles to the second level for our offensive lineman, 860 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: finding ways to crack and pick and do different things 861 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: to make more advantageous matchups for the offensive line and 862 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: for the blocking surface. And that is not easy to do, 863 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think that's a feature of this offense. 864 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: But that's okay. If you're throwing the ball with the 865 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: efficiency that. 866 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 2: We don't have. What we call short run substitutes. 867 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 5: When you run a game is not clicking on our sealis, 868 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 5: you've got short run substitutes. 869 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: Quick screen. Yeah, we call quick screen game short run. 870 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: We do actually have those that's been not run game. 871 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying, so you go to the quick 872 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 5: screen game, you go to the draw, you go to 873 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 5: these plays that open up only because of the way 874 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 5: that they are run un They run to let the 875 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 5: defensive line in a screenplay with the back, let them in, 876 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 5: a drought play, let them in. Like so we're not 877 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 5: doing the alternatives good, and we're not doing the the 878 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 5: first level of running good. 879 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 7: I think we got to miss it all together. 880 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely. 881 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: It feels very like when I watch it, and again 882 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: I have to talk to somebody here, but it feels 883 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: like you run counter, you run tight zone, you run duo, 884 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: and that's hard to do. Like that's what Philly does 885 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: and they have the best line in football, and that's 886 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: hard for them to do. 887 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 3: I think also too, if you watch some of the 888 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 3: games where we. 889 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: Have and you run a lot out of sid zone. 890 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think some of. 891 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 6: The games where we had success run the ball, it 892 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 6: was it was about the rhythm of the game. It's 893 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 6: about the flow of So if we move in the 894 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 6: pocket doing some of the things offensively with our passing game, 895 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 6: that opens up those lanes to run now, to run 896 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 6: now now, Now they're not looking at down and distance saying, okay, 897 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 6: I know it's gonna be a run right now. You 898 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 6: know they just had an incomplete pass on first down. 899 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: They're gonna run right now. 900 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 6: Because some of these games I watched, you know, a 901 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 6: g have a couple of big holes, be rob have 902 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 6: a couple of good runs. 903 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: It's because of the flow of the offense. 904 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 6: We was moving the ball down field and bam, we 905 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 6: hit them with a second down run or a first 906 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 6: down run or third down unexpected. Because we had third 907 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 6: and short, we was able to run and get you know, 908 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 6: you know, twenty yards out of that carry or something 909 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 6: like that. So to me, I believe just how we 910 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 6: watched the Giants like find a way to get a 911 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 6: rhythm and and pick us part, you know, pick us 912 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 6: apart slowly with certain certain plays. We haven't had that 913 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 6: enough to rely on or run, and when we see it, 914 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 6: it's almost seemed like it's forced, you know, because I'm 915 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 6: seeing too many of us banging into each other when 916 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 6: we do run. And we thought going into the season 917 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 6: that that's what our officer. 918 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 3: Line is going to be known for. They can get today. 919 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 6: They are better run protectors than they are you know, 920 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 6: pass protector, you know what I mean. So they already 921 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 6: they are better run blockers than they are pass protecting. 922 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 6: They're getting second level with the run block. And though, 923 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 6: because I'm seeing a lot of backs running to a 924 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 6: lot of. 925 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: Back Yeah, that's the point though, I think, is like 926 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: when you see backs running into backs, it's because you've 927 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: got these double teams. And this is like a little 928 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: bit nerdy, so'll stick with me for one second. So yeah, 929 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: So let's say we got a center guard combination. We're 930 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: double teaming a shade, so someone in between the center 931 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: and guard, and we're double teaming to the offensive right. 932 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: If I'm on that double team, i am at a 933 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: bad angle to block that guy from a blocking stamdpoint 934 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: I want to block, and we're running to the right, 935 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: I want to block back away from the run and 936 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: go to the guy who's to the guy who's running 937 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: across the formation. I want to go vertically and double 938 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: back right because it creates seams right, because if there's 939 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: a shade, there's a five technique guy outside the tackle, 940 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna block him out. Vertical double team block we 941 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: got a nice crease in between the guard and that. 942 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: I can pull somebody if I want. 943 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: To leave right and so right now, when you run 944 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: these tight zones, when you run duo, tight zone sometimes 945 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: counter count is usually pretty good about creating it. But 946 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: tight zone duo, they're all vertical. So you're basically asking 947 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: these guys to kind of play out of what they're 948 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: really good at. So on a vertical double team, you 949 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: huge guys, Yeah, I want to lift you up and 950 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: move it. 951 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 2: I need to get you out of his get under. 952 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: If and so with this group, I want lateral runs. 953 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: I want to use my quickness, use my athleticism, find 954 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: ways to create good landing spots to the second level. 955 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: And I feel like to your point, when you see 956 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: them running into backs, it's because that double team is 957 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: going vertically and it's hard to create vertical movement in 958 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: the NFL with it. So that's what I would say, 959 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: is like that scheme only works if you throw the 960 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: ball a ton, get them in advantageous. 961 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: Box structures, right, hit them. Yeah, and then once they're 962 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 2: in those box structures. 963 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: That's why, like you look at the Bills game for example, 964 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: b rob comes out and we average like seven yards 965 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: of carry in the second half of that game because 966 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: they're playing straight cover two straight cover, two great angles 967 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: in the run game, good numbers in the run game, 968 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: we can great good movement. That's what you want, right, 969 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: But you gotta the way this offense, at least observationally 970 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: works is you got to throw your way into that stuff. 971 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: It's not like Kyle Shanahan or Detroit where it's like 972 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: we run the ball first, we are to yes, because 973 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: those teams that run the ball like that, receivers block, 974 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: full backs, block tight ends. Everybody blocks. If you're not blocking, 975 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: you're not gonna play. Get gone. 976 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 6: So I asked this question, and trust me, I truly 977 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 6: see that. I mean just this, you basically demonstrating that 978 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 6: you can see it watching it. 979 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 3: It's happening that way. 980 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 6: I've been a part of offenses that had new offenses, 981 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 6: coordinators and style of play, and one wasn't working. So 982 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 6: they say, you know what, I'm not going to scrap 983 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 6: what I'm doing as a whole. I'm going to add 984 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 6: some traditional runs. That's going to allow us to do 985 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 6: some traditional things when the office isn't at sea doing 986 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 6: what I wanted to do, because we understand that. To me, 987 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 6: I've seen that without even knowing what you just broke down. 988 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 6: I'm like, if we're not passing the ball, well the 989 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 6: run ain't coming. We're not being able to show them something. 990 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 6: And then they say, because you know, not every offense 991 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 6: passing not come off each other. 992 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, some officers were. 993 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 6: You know, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna do a 994 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 6: pass here and there. The next thing, you know, we're 995 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 6: gonna play action. You I mean, do a running then 996 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 6: we're gonna play action. You Not all offices work that way, 997 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 6: but I remember being here my first year, oh five, 998 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 6: you had just left. 999 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: And our run game was superb. Clinton. They was tearing 1000 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 3: people upon. 1001 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: Mike cell run past. 1002 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 6: Game wise, we just wasn't moving the ball. And what 1003 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 6: we started doing, say you know what, let's scrap everything. 1004 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 6: We're gonna do what the other team couldn't stop last week. 1005 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 6: And it worked for us, and before you know it, 1006 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 6: we ran more of the other teams you know passing 1007 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 6: game that played that team previously then we ran our own. 1008 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: So I'm just wondering, you know, we were going until 1009 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: week eight. 1010 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 6: Now, could we trinkle in a couple of runs from 1011 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 6: other teams that's been successful again. 1012 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 2: I see what y'all saying right there. 1013 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 5: I don't know if there's the quick fix in my 1014 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 5: head because it's a reason. 1015 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 6: It's not even a fix, it's just something to get 1016 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 6: us positive yard. 1017 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 1018 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 5: But I think it's a reason why frogs don't wear 1019 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 5: Jordan's like it doesn't help them swim. I'll just be honest, man, Like, 1020 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 5: just because it's extra, don't make it help. I'm just 1021 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 5: saying it's a reason why. It's the reason why nature 1022 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 5: only gives you what you need. You're gonna give me 1023 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 5: way up feet fingers for me to grab things and 1024 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 5: for me to swim, But you could protect me by 1025 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 5: putting a pair of shoes on me, but it would 1026 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 5: also hinder me. So if your outfense is predicated on 1027 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 5: throwing the ball to open up the run, then what I. 1028 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 7: Was saying, what about these secondary short passes. 1029 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 2: And you are saying the same thing. 1030 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, but we're just saying a different way. 1031 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: It's like you need, like when you need a spark 1032 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: in the run game, what is it and how do 1033 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: you get there? And me, I'm like, I want to 1034 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: do what Tannis says because I want to get into 1035 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: type formations. Let's get those receipts. But that is a 1036 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: big lift. That's like, imagine installing that in the week. 1037 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: That's tough. 1038 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: That's a frog with joy, a draw, a screen, pitch, 1039 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: maybe all that stuff. 1040 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 2: You could that's pretty every day. We could do that. 1041 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 6: We can do that, we can we can do the 1042 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 6: two point play that Samuel scored a touchdown on. 1043 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: We can open field, put that in the game. 1044 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 1045 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 5: You try to do something different that Samuels put give 1046 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 5: me right there, put b robbing there and give me 1047 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 5: at the same time, it's bring him across, throw throw, 1048 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 5: give me this. 1049 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 3: Right look at us and I and I'll suck at it. 1050 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: You know I suck at it. 1051 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, just when you're watching it, man, 1052 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 6: you're just looking at you saying, I'm sure you know 1053 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 6: eb is doing a great job at what he's calling, 1054 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 6: you know, and some of the things situations, because you 1055 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 6: can see when when we're. 1056 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 3: Having success, we all do. 1057 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 6: But when you having as many miscues that we've had, 1058 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 6: it kind of puts you in a spot where you 1059 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 6: can't even call some of your best stuff. 1060 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 2: That's one, right, you know what I mean? 1061 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 6: And so if we can't call it, but I still 1062 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 6: trying to do it, then it can kind to make 1063 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 6: me like what else do I have? So I'm wondering, 1064 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 6: because I'm pretty sure every officeer coordinator has it. I'm 1065 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 6: just wondering, when I take this sat on, I take 1066 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 6: this jump off size and have this penalty I gotta 1067 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 6: put back? Do I have a player that I can 1068 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 6: say that's gonna get me at least the yards back? 1069 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1070 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 5: I think it's the first year coordinated. I think he's 1071 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 5: still in his bag trying to problem solve. 1072 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will say Colin plays at the high 1073 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: school level like that is a dagger because you're like, 1074 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: there's no like third, like second and twenty. 1075 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got nothing. It ain't a playful Yeah, I 1076 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: got nothing. 1077 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 5: Let's get Sam Yaws and try to make it a short. 1078 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: And third per and so okay, so I think we 1079 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: that was good. I really liked that was a good discussion. Okay, 1080 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: so we got two we got two left. 1081 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 5: Ye Oh, that's a great question because I think it's 1082 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 5: a little pumpkin and there sweet potato with pumpkin sea 1083 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 5: no cause sweep. 1084 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something there, but it's like is it. Yeah, 1085 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: It's like you need something easier to in slate guys. 1086 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: Run game is kind of the defaul thing, but it's 1087 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: not just as easy as like run the ball mark. 1088 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: You need more efficient runs. It's a sweet pumpkin. 1089 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sweet pumpkin. That's what it is. Sweet, 1090 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 2: all right. 1091 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: Johan Dodson is regressing this one. I think is interesting 1092 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: because I got a lot of people about. 1093 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: This one step back there. 1094 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 6: I mean honestly, man, you know, don't get me wrong. 1095 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 6: I feel like I've walked in these shoes too many times. 1096 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 6: I've seen a guy and it was so crazy, I 1097 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 6: promise you if I'm lying on Flying Fly. When we 1098 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 6: was talking about Jahan Dawson coming to this season, the 1099 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 6: first thing I had in the back of my right mind, 1100 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 6: right brain. 1101 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 3: Right side, right side is always the best. 1102 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 6: The first thing I thought of, I said, I hope 1103 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 6: we ain't blowing too much smoke and this guy don't 1104 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 6: have the season that we are thinking I swear, I 1105 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 6: promise you. I was just sad sitting here saying to myself, 1106 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 6: you know how you feel something, don't say nothing about it. 1107 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: And I'm like that all the time. 1108 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 6: So I was saying this to myself and then boom, 1109 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 6: the season's happened. We're here now, and wow, you know 1110 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 6: what I mean, Like this is what I kind of 1111 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 6: imagine happening. You know, I mean, because you got a 1112 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 6: new offense, you got a new quarterback, you got so 1113 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 6: many things going on, and. 1114 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 3: As a receiver, you've talked about this time and time again. 1115 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 3: We need so much to. 1116 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: Go right for y'all to seed. 1117 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 6: And for the most part, things have gone well when 1118 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 6: he had opportunities. But you're still trying to get chemistry 1119 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 6: with this quarterback. You're still trying to get in where 1120 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 6: you fit in with this offensive scheme, how to get 1121 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 6: to these routes, how to get to these spots on 1122 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 6: the field. Too many variables in a timely fashion, and 1123 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 6: you're still trying to be yourself. 1124 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 3: When you look at certain. 1125 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 6: Games, you can say that he's catching the ball well 1126 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,479 Speaker 6: in this game, when you're saying, well, he's not putting 1127 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 6: the same production. 1128 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 3: But if you look at it. It's not all his fault. 1129 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 2: It's never all the receiver fault. 1130 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 6: No, I can't say that because sometimes it's just a receiver. 1131 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 6: If you drop a ball, then that's on you. But 1132 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 6: if you not running the route fast enough, you'd not 1133 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 6: get to your spot, that's on you. But the reason 1134 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 6: why I want to jump on this is because when 1135 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 6: I'm watching him, I can see some of the games 1136 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 6: when he's not getting the ball, then it's he's not 1137 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 6: getting his number call. 1138 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 3: Then the games are getting called. 1139 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 6: You can't he can't help as a receiver. What catches, 1140 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 6: what what routes he's getting, He's getting the ball thrown 1141 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 6: to him. Man, Like last week, he caught a he 1142 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 6: caught a shout across, he caught a stick route, he 1143 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 6: caught an out route. Even a player that he missed 1144 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,479 Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter that was like a little out route, 1145 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Those particular passes not gonna 1146 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 6: always give you the numbers that you're looking for or 1147 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 6: the production that people are hoping to see from him. 1148 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 3: There's a couple of routes. 1149 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 6: Here and there that one of them got picked going 1150 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 6: across the middle, and that that route used to be 1151 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 6: called the what route for us, the high crosses deep 1152 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 6: over whatever call that play got picked, you throw it 1153 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 6: a little differently. That's a big game for him. He's 1154 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 6: probably going up the side of a centis touchdown. So 1155 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 6: last year I'm looking at certain plays that's not getting 1156 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 6: to him that he can he can get that production 1157 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 6: out of. Then some of the players that's not even 1158 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 6: being thrown at him. So the reason why I want 1159 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 6: to chime in on it because I bend them shoes. 1160 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 6: And yes, it's easy to say that he's regressing because 1161 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 6: he has to put up the numbers, but I won't 1162 00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 6: say he's regressing himself. I feel like offensively, when we 1163 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 6: haven't really got were playing ketch up, we have old thing. 1164 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 6: Not even that we haven't got him evolved enough. I 1165 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 6: think we have too many guys to try to get 1166 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,959 Speaker 6: things happen, and one guy in himself, Terry needs the ball. 1167 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 3: He's your guy. 1168 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 6: So it's easy to say Terry's not a guy that 1169 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 6: you can say, oh, he's gonna run this route, gred, 1170 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 6: He's gonna do that. Terry's is the guy throw the 1171 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 6: ball up. He's gonna he's gonna come down with and 1172 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 6: make them happen. That's how I look at Terry. 1173 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: He can run. 1174 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 6: He can pretty much run every route. He's probably not 1175 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 6: the best at running him all. Yes, we look at 1176 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 6: Jahan as a he's a surgeon when it comes to 1177 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 6: the route round. 1178 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 3: He can run routes. 1179 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 6: But Terry's one of those guys that man, he can 1180 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 6: run whatever routes you tell him to run. He's gonna 1181 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 6: find a way to get open. And when you have 1182 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 6: a guy like that, to me, I feel like. 1183 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 3: You have more. 1184 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 6: Room for error, you know what I'm saying, Like you 1185 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 6: can throw the ball to Terry and he's gonna make 1186 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 6: you right. Jahan, on the other hand, Logan said this 1187 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 6: today and I had to I had to really say 1188 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 6: I agree. I didn't say I agree when I was 1189 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 6: thinking about it back there, but I agree with it. 1190 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 6: It seems like at times, or you might have said this, 1191 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 6: it seems like Sam is trying to be perfect with 1192 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 6: your Yeah, he wants to throw a perfect ball. Yes, 1193 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 6: instead of throwing the ball and just throw it up 1194 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 6: to me, just give it to them. Both of the 1195 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 6: guys have hands. Both of the guys can make plays. 1196 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 6: So I wouldn't say he's regressing. I just feel like 1197 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 6: we have to find more ways created him involved, and 1198 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 6: I think last week was the first time I saw 1199 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 6: them try to make an effort of getting him involved. 1200 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 5: I'm glad you talked about it, not you because of 1201 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 5: this reason right here in the NFL DB's we look 1202 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 5: at two receivers. We got trouble shooters that mean they 1203 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 5: don't care what's going on around them. 1204 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 7: Who quarterback them. Matter of fact, they never have. 1205 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 5: Good quarterbacks, right Sant Tyner story like he would have 1206 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,959 Speaker 5: to just figure it out. 1207 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 2: Then you got honeymoon receivers. 1208 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 5: Like honeymoon receivers is the guy that been with Peyton 1209 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 5: Manning his whole life, the Tyreek Hill that they had 1210 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 5: Pat Mahame didn't go to tours. So if some guys 1211 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 5: a Hundrey move receivers, they always gonna put up the 1212 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 5: numbers because they always got somebody good delivering the ball. 1213 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 5: But your trouble shooters they do it despite of they 1214 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 5: do it, despite of quarterbacks, they do it despite of 1215 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 5: offensive scheme. Terry McLaurin is a trouble shooter. I'm talking 1216 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 5: about year at the who my quarterback don't care Year 1217 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 5: at the year at the year, Throw me the ball. 1218 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 7: I would come down to it. 1219 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 2: I'm not a devil. I'm not gonna. 1220 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 7: Respond to everybody else. 1221 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 2: Trouble shooting receivers. Then you have receivers that need. 1222 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 5: Things to be a little bit right, and if it 1223 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 5: ain't right, they are not right. Like I would love 1224 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 5: to see two people trade shoes and we all came 1225 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 5: out in the draft, Clay, I would love to see 1226 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 5: Reggie Wayne trade shoes with Santana mos See, now show 1227 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 5: me your numbers. Like so it's one of those things 1228 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 5: where as a receiver, damned if you do, damned if 1229 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 5: you don't. 1230 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: Right to you, both of you rus points. I felt 1231 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 1: like this was like his best game, like running rounds, 1232 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 1: getting open, finding space, his legs look under himber in Atlanta, 1233 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: we kind of thought he was a little heavy leg 1234 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: this one. I felt like, no obvious, there's the drop late, 1235 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: but I thought there was you know, you mentioned the 1236 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: the interception. There was the other one kind of in 1237 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: the first half where it's thrown behind him, Like those 1238 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: are both opportunities where I think he could have made 1239 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: some plays and he just didn't get the opportunity. But 1240 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: I thought, I think he looks he's looking good just 1241 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: about getting those opportunities worked out now, So this is 1242 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: the one we've talked about all these fans. If you 1243 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: given all of these, this is the one I get 1244 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: the most of. So is John regressing pumpkin Nurse, sweet Potato. 1245 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: I'd say that's a little bit of a pumpkin tape. 1246 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 1: All right, are we out of it? Is it time 1247 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 1: to give up? Trade everybody and move on, get ready 1248 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 1: for next year? 1249 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,919 Speaker 5: Calm down, We got more games in front of us 1250 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,720 Speaker 5: than behind us. As simple as this, derego your math. 1251 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 5: We not OH in seven. If we was OH in Salem, 1252 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 5: were still all got ten more to go. So at 1253 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's never how you start, 1254 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 5: it's how you finish. And I understand it's the side 1255 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 5: with taste, not because of the loss how we lost 1256 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 5: the losses. 1257 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, they're only going to 1258 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 2: get better. 1259 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 5: Would you rather play your best game by the said, 1260 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 5: I mean, your best football by the seventh week? Are 1261 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 5: your best football going into the latter half of the year. 1262 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we're far from out of it. I've 1263 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 6: been in tougher situations I've been in. 1264 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 3: I went to the. 1265 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 6: Postseason at least two or three times, probably because I 1266 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 6: only went three years here in ten years. But all 1267 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 6: those times we had to go and get four or 1268 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 6: five games in a row. 1269 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 7: Just we went and got seven and got it. 1270 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, we did. 1271 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 6: So I've been in them years. Five we went and 1272 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 6: got five at. 1273 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 2: The in the year. 1274 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 6: You know, I've been in another team where we went 1275 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 6: and got four in the I've been in those teams 1276 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 6: where you just have to make your run claw you 1277 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 6: know what I mean. But at the same time, saying 1278 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 6: that you're out of it, you're not out of it 1279 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 6: until you're out of it, you see what I'm saying, 1280 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 6: Like you're not out of it to say it you're 1281 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 6: out of it, And I feel like it's too much 1282 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 6: time for us to even have that talk. But I 1283 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 6: will say this also, you still have to have a 1284 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 6: sense of urgency as a player and as a team 1285 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 6: as a staff that we because see my only problem 1286 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 6: with what we have going on right now, this is 1287 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 6: my biggest problem. You don't win the games you're supposed 1288 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 6: to win. So it's easy for you to look at 1289 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 6: it and say it out of it. 1290 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 2: Say I can't pick anyone. 1291 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 6: You look at it, You look at all other games, 1292 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 6: but they ain't gonna be that team. That team they 1293 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 6: ain't gonna be that team. But then the games when 1294 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 6: they show up. So if you win these games you're 1295 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 6: supposed to, then you're sitting there big fat and happen 1296 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 6: you might lose those easier the games down the road 1297 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 6: because you want a game or two that you're supposed 1298 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 6: to that made you think that you did something. So 1299 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 6: this is one of those things about our team. John 1300 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 6: said the other day on the Junk show Man, we 1301 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 6: always make. 1302 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 3: It hard for ourselves. We've been a part of those teams. Yeah, 1303 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 3: make it hard. 1304 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 2: We made it hard. 1305 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 3: Maybe they don't like it easy. 1306 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 6: And if they don't like it easy, then oh well, 1307 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 6: I'm gonna sit back and be ready to watch it. 1308 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to play sooner or later. Better than it's. 1309 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 2: Only good and horseshoes and grenade throwing. That's it. 1310 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 7: I almost won't get you there. 1311 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: They almost you right. 1312 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 7: Target with grenade. 1313 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: You better, you better throw it fast enough. I agree 1314 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: with both of you guys. But you know, in twenty 1315 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: twelve we were three and so not looking good. One 1316 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: seven in row made the playoffs, right, so you never know, 1317 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: and we and we beat some teams. We shouldn't beat 1318 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: So you're not out of it. It's just about to 1319 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: your point and can you find it? Can you find 1320 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: the consistency? Can you find the right amalgamation of stuff? 1321 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: And started making plays? 1322 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 2: All right? Excuse me? 1323 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: So now time for the Command Center Podcast Fantasy Recap 1324 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: and we have a very special guest back by popular 1325 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: demand intern Caroline. 1326 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 2: Caroline, how are you? 1327 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 6: Hello? 1328 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 8: Everyone comments, so shout out, shout out. 1329 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 5: To you one a week ago. 1330 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. Yeah, so you're here to help 1331 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 2: us recap. So you are? 1332 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: You won this week and you beat me. Jason just 1333 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: told me about so congratulations. 1334 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 7: Who ain't playing down? 1335 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 2: My team must be terrible? So who was in your lineup? Caroline? 1336 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 8: Let's let's get a look see? So I kept justin 1337 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 8: Jefferson in because as I saw I was playing you 1338 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 8: and I thought this. 1339 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 2: I don't know who's on my team. 1340 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 3: You know what? 1341 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 5: Logan that's similar to me, Like when I say when 1342 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 5: I hear I lose, I'd be like Jason just hating. 1343 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 7: Like it's to the point now I don't even count 1344 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 7: the points. 1345 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 2: Of MyD isn't isn't Jason your your manager? 1346 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 7: He's my manager? That seems to never manage. 1347 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 3: But you had a we had a squad. 1348 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 6: Man, I was scared of your squad when I watch 1349 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 6: because we was we was head to head this weekend. 1350 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 3: I'm looking at your squad. I'm like, man, he got 1351 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 3: some guys and they never show up together. 1352 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and that's a that's the thing about fantasy, 1353 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 6: it's about you can have all the best players, right, 1354 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 6: but if you don't pick him to play that that 1355 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 6: pretending day, the opportunity I had to do Andrews over 1356 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 6: there with the Ravens, and I took him up the 1357 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 6: lineup because he hadn't been doing anything. 1358 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 2: Points who you got? 1359 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 8: Okay, So just looking at it, the only position you 1360 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 8: beat me at was at quarterback. You had Lamar Jackson 1361 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 8: who had a day. I had Josh Allen, so went 1362 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 8: to by points. 1363 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 2: Still even with it, he didn't have two interceptions? Though? 1364 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 2: Was that last week I happen to say? That never 1365 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,439 Speaker 2: stops the quarterback from racking up point Who they played? 1366 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 2: They played Doingland this weekend? Right? 1367 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah they did? 1368 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 2: Didn't he have two picks? Okay? Gosh, Jason, Jason terrible man. Yeah, Jason, 1369 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 2: this isn't this your job? 1370 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 5: No, we watched the Washington Commander. 1371 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: Is that right? Okay? So else you got. 1372 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 8: Okay, So you also had a lot of people on 1373 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 8: your bench, which I did not. I killed you. It 1374 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 8: was seventy one to one twenty. 1375 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 2: Is that bad? Yeah? 1376 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 7: She almost doubled. 1377 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 8: Davante Adams. Still just like, is he? 1378 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 2: Is he on my team or your team? 1379 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 8: My team? 1380 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: Okay? I don't know. I don't anybody. 1381 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,720 Speaker 5: DeVante Adams and Justin Jefferson winning? 1382 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh? 1383 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,800 Speaker 8: Why had Terry too? 1384 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 2: Guys? 1385 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 3: Ain't do nothing? 1386 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, her best, her best receivers didn't even have a 1387 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 6: good game. 1388 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 8: You didn't play Austin Eckler. He literally had only five 1389 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 8: zero sake one seen really only had one point for you. 1390 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 8: So I don't really know. 1391 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: Ye look at that. I look at my roster a 1392 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: little bit here, boys, Yeah, I don't even know it. 1393 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 2: My team to step up and pay attention, all right. 1394 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: So moving on from the most boring game of fantasy 1395 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: this week, London is still undefeated. How I mean, have 1396 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: you you played him right, Caroline? 1397 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 3: I played him last week. 1398 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 6: I think I point about one point. 1399 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 3: It was one fifteen, one fourteen. 1400 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 2: And you're still salty about it. 1401 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 6: I love salty his hell about it because it was 1402 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 6: all about that last interception that the damn Cowboys got 1403 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 6: that it gave him that little nod in front of me. 1404 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 3: I mean I was sitting there the whole night. 1405 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 6: I literally watched the game knowing that London had the 1406 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 6: Cowboys defense, and I'm like, if I can hold on, yeah, 1407 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 6: I got him and they got to pick to close 1408 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 6: the game out. 1409 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 5: The Cowboy killer killed by the Cowboy So. 1410 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 2: But he's got Travis Kelcey on his on his team. 1411 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 5: Well long as as long as he dating so and so, 1412 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 5: they're gonna be at least thirty points a game because 1413 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 5: since they've been dating, he been over one fifty every game. 1414 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 2: Taylor, TWI know that she's been at right every game this. 1415 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 6: Game until he had a he had a he had 1416 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 6: a score, some catches he didn't. He wasn't really killing. 1417 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 2: But he had one hundred games. We know this. 1418 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 5: This dude is the goat of tight ends already. Really 1419 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 5: nothing that's to prove now he's having the best statistical years, 1420 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 5: Like because you know when you got that new girlfriend 1421 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 5: in the stands and your girlfriend happened to be the 1422 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 5: most popular woman on Nerve. 1423 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 2: Show out Caro, what do you think about that? 1424 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: Diller Swift about Fred's analysis here, I mean, I saw 1425 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: you laughing over that. 1426 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 7: Wants to show out for the girl. I feel about it. 1427 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: I feel like when I was at my happiest, I 1428 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: played my worst. I need like like someone stopped me. 1429 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 5: But you know, players need the other drive, like what's 1430 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 5: driving you today? 1431 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 6: Every girl don't work for you do? Because I was 1432 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 6: that gown. I was young, and I told myself I 1433 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,919 Speaker 6: want a girlfriend around football season just because I didn't 1434 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 6: know if I didn't want to bring her juju in 1435 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 6: with me. You know what I'm saying right about. 1436 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 3: So you had to. 1437 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 6: You had to find that girlfriend that you felt like 1438 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 6: made you get up and play. 1439 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 7: Because when I got married, my game suffered. 1440 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 2: That's probably for the reason I'm just daddy. It's suffered. 1441 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 9: Fred, You just say things sometimes just to fact check 1442 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 9: you real quick. Yeah, since he's been dating Swift, No, no, no, 1443 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 9: sixty yards. 1444 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 5: The game she is she's been going to? She hasn't 1445 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 5: went to every last one. I promise you you just 1446 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 5: lied into the mic was at she was. 1447 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 9: At the New York sixty seven yards. 1448 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 2: That's pretty good kind of touchdown, right. 1449 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 9: No, excuse me, sorry, that was sixty yards sixty no touchdown. 1450 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1451 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 9: Then the next game she was at she was at 1452 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 9: the every sixty seven yards. 1453 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 3: So I can say this after you've done Then he had. 1454 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 9: Twenty one hundred and twenty four yards, no touchdown, and 1455 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 9: then you. 1456 00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 2: Know speak he went. 1457 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 6: So from the time he said on his podcast, if 1458 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 6: I can get Taylor Swift to come to the game, 1459 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 6: she has been. 1460 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 3: To every game. 1461 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Four games. 1462 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 3: That's the only four games we're talking about. 1463 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 7: No, and they've been danceince the season, bro. 1464 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 3: But I'm talking about since the time he said he 1465 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 3: wanted her to. 1466 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 5: Go to the game that was last That was what 1467 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 5: I'm talking about. I ain't talking about the start day 1468 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 5: literally six seven games ago. 1469 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 3: This is my this is this is what I'm saying 1470 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 3: to you. 1471 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 6: I'm talking about the time he said that them the 1472 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 6: games that I'm counting those four games, and it wasn't 1473 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 6: one fifty. 1474 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 2: First of all, he said that in the off season. 1475 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 3: He did not say that. 1476 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 5: He said I want the day Taylor Swift in the 1477 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 5: off season doing a doing an interview with his team. 1478 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 6: At the time they aired it, from the time they 1479 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 6: aired it, from the time they aired it on national's. 1480 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Been the four games. 1481 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. 1482 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 2: He's off. 1483 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 3: No, he haven't sixty yards. 1484 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 5: Sixty yards and you take sixty yards. 1485 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 2: I would take sixty. 1486 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 3: But we're talking about what you just said. 1487 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 5: You said one fifty area week, Jeff, because you trying 1488 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 5: to shade my line with a lie. 1489 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 7: Didn't make your line, because you have. 1490 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 2: No proof on this, Fred, you got no ground to 1491 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 2: stand on right now. You lie, You didn't lie. London. 1492 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 7: Where's London when I need? 1493 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 6: You? 1494 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 5: Don't need? 1495 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Y'all tell the world we're not doing that to you. 1496 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: We're not doing that to you. Okay, leave a comment. 1497 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Guess what Fred's mill name is. It starts with a D. 1498 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, So Fred, you lost to 1499 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Santana by one. You had Tua and you had Naja. Harris, 1500 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: it's not your Harris playing good football. 1501 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 5: The back behind him number thirty, it's told to bree 1502 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 5: it right now, Harris. 1503 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 7: I know, no, what's the name told the bride the 1504 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 7: back behind it? 1505 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I gotta look that up. But yeah, so so so. Tanna, 1506 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: you're doing good, London's doing good, Carolina doing good. Jason, 1507 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Are you in this thing or what, Yeah, 1508 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: nor your your Fred's GM. Yeah, it's tough. That's a tough, 1509 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: look all right. You can't be good at everything, all right. 1510 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: So that's our fantasy recap, a little all over the place. 1511 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: To David, it was fun. And then now, from what 1512 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I understand, our producer just told me that intern Caroline 1513 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: as a game for us today. She's gonna guess all 1514 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: of Fred's isms from today's show. 1515 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 7: How many did I? 1516 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 2: I was trying to think back, I don't. 1517 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 1: I feel like it wasn't as many as normal, but 1518 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: like a fredism was like I don't know, like a 1519 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: paralypse will tell a lie or listen or whatever you say, 1520 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: like one of those, And I'm sure one of those 1521 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: are in there, but I'm curious to see. So Caroline, 1522 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,919 Speaker 1: just for the record, just to talk through the game, 1523 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Jason's gonna give us that. 1524 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 9: Before we begin. How many do you think she's gonna get? 1525 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 2: Right? 1526 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 9: What should we set the over under it? 1527 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know what he said today though, like 1528 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 2: we can. 1529 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,439 Speaker 5: Set over under you just know everything at five, six 1530 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 5: to seven, that's what that's a lot. 1531 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 2: I bet you, I bet you get I bet you 1532 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 2: get three? Right? Yeah, three and a half three, I'll 1533 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 2: take the. 1534 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Under all all right, all right, here you go. And 1535 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: not because I don't think you don't know the fredisms. 1536 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: It's because I don't think he said that many today. 1537 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 2: But here we go. 1538 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 8: Okay, well some of them aren't necessarily is I think 1539 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 8: he's gonna. 1540 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 2: Bring up okay? Right here we go. 1541 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 8: I didn't write that down, but that would be an example. 1542 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 5: Bring up bubbles, bubbles Jackson, Okay, bring up okay. 1543 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 8: So that was actually my first one that you were 1544 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 8: going to say something about pumpkin or sweet potato. 1545 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: So it's funny, it's what's funny. Let me just say 1546 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: this real quick. Let me just say this. We did 1547 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: our pumpkins segment today and I was waiting for him 1548 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: to say something. I was like, is he gonna say? 1549 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, Fred, what is a pumpkin? He's like, oh, 1550 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: it's okay, And he was intentionally. 1551 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 5: Staring away from me, and I was not gonna duck 1552 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 5: the ball for you. 1553 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of he kind of like sidetracked it 1554 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 1: a little, just stayed away from. 1555 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 9: And just to apologize to you, Caroline, in our production meeting, 1556 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 9: I did tell Fred that this may be coming, and 1557 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 9: so I feel like to be the winner in turn. 1558 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 1: So so I was so, it's not fair. It's not 1559 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: fair because he's like because he in the meeting, it's like, 1560 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I'll play the game. 1561 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 2: And then I was like, Fred wants a pumpkin. He 1562 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know, I've. 1563 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 6: That he said that because I was want to say, like, well, 1564 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 6: we actually warmed him. 1565 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 3: So that's why I didn't hear that many That's. 1566 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 8: Just crazy because I think for the past two months 1567 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 8: se potato. 1568 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 5: But we had a segment today pumpkin or sweet potato, 1569 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 5: and it wasn't saying do you want one of these? 1570 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 5: It was saying, how do we view these situation? 1571 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 10: He did he did say. 1572 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 6: He did say, to his credit and to your credit, 1573 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 6: he did say punkin Punkin. 1574 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 2: Has no But I basically was like, Fred, just does 1575 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 2: pumpkin have nutrients? He was like, not any of them. 1576 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: But it wasn't is he was I'm gonna give it 1577 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,439 Speaker 1: to her because I think Fred was kind of trying 1578 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: to say. 1579 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 8: Something about the hippopotamus eating it. 1580 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 2: Dude, No, but I love that story. I loved us. 1581 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 5: If you go to the Smithsonian Zoo, they feed the 1582 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 5: hippopotamus like they throw They would literally throw the whole pumpkin. 1583 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 2: Ain't no cutting it, and I've seen do with watermelon. 1584 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 5: They throw the whole pumpkin in the mind for the 1585 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 5: hippopotamus and he just smooshes it one bite. 1586 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's one. 1587 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 7: I was watching Gallagher. 1588 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 2: That's where y'all got that from, all. 1589 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: Right, So so one point, yeah, let's get And so 1590 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know fred as and 1591 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: talk to fred as much as we do, that is 1592 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: a story, that pumpkin story with hippopotamus that comes up 1593 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: during this time of year once a week, twice a 1594 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: week maybe, Okay. 1595 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 5: So because nobody ever thought about what a hippopotamus eats. 1596 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 5: And you need to know that hippopotamus kills more people 1597 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 5: than almost any animal than a lion, tiger. 1598 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 2: It's the it's the deadliest animal in Africa. And so 1599 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 2: it's not almost I tried to run from a hippopotamus. 1600 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 2: Got that's at all, right, Carol. 1601 01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 8: The next one, did he say anything about dogs, specifically 1602 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 8: referring to the miss b. 1603 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 2: Steak bull dogs. 1604 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 5: I did not talk about dogs today, not even forbes 1605 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 5: a lot. 1606 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 2: I know I know that forms even came up. You 1607 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 2: were intentionally not bringing that. No, maybe not all right. 1608 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 8: I know you did this because you did it twice 1609 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 8: when I walked in. What you said at the end 1610 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 8: of the day, at the end of the days kind 1611 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 8: of like my thing like that. 1612 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 5: Definitely definitely listen, I said, listen because talkers like to 1613 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 5: be listened to. So you got those two you know 1614 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 5: what I said. 1615 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 7: We were talking. 1616 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 10: I say, like saving, let me get on my knaps drink. 1617 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 2: Got it? That was a good one answer? Two? Right? 1618 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 3: No? 1619 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 8: Three? 1620 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 2: Three? How did you listen? Okay? Yeah, all right, Logan James, 1621 01:06:58,800 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 2: he did not today. No. 1622 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 5: I was afraid he was gonna let my middle name 1623 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 5: because we have we have mutually we have we have 1624 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 5: mutually assured destruction. 1625 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 2: Right now, if you start doing that too much, I'm 1626 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 2: gonna have to throw that. 1627 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 7: Outc I know he got a. 1628 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 2: You can't. 1629 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,439 Speaker 5: You can't, you can't light a match, and you can't 1630 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 5: put the file. 1631 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 8: I wrote something about your middle name, but Logan kind 1632 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 8: of brought it up, so it's not really fair. That 1633 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 8: was a few minutes ago. 1634 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: He didn't bring Yeah, yeah, yeah, I brought it up. 1635 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: We're not we're not bringing up on the show. We 1636 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: don't leave a comment. 1637 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 5: Hey, London, it's on. That's all I want to say. 1638 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 2: Great investigative, Hannah, But they don't understand. 1639 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 5: These dudes didn't been to the Scout, departed to old. 1640 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 2: B O, pay hey, old girl, to every department. 1641 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 6: You know, I'm just know his I'm laughing because see, 1642 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 6: I'm the guy he got to worry about. I'm not 1643 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 6: going I ain't trying to throw you under the bus. 1644 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1645 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna put you outs. 1646 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 9: Know what we're talking about. We're talking about Fred's middle name. 1647 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 2: You know it starts with a D. 1648 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 5: He won't because I changed it from Wikipedia purposes and 1649 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 5: and made a joke. 1650 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 4: Would do put up a fake name for everybody just 1651 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 4: and London did some investigative work and founder we're keeping 1652 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:21,799 Speaker 4: it underground. 1653 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,839 Speaker 2: That's why, respecting your identity. 1654 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 9: So we want fans of comment of what this name 1655 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 9: might be so bad you're trying to hide it. 1656 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 5: Whirs all start with a D with a E. I can't, hey, 1657 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 5: but will they figure it out? 1658 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 4: No? 1659 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 2: Tune in next time, Caroline, what's the next one? 1660 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 8: Will bring up the brotherly shove and that said but 1661 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 8: will refer to as the tush push or something more 1662 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 8: inappropriate that we will have to cut. 1663 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: So he didn't do it today because we haven't done 1664 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 1: our previous we have done our preview partner. Yeah, so 1665 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,759 Speaker 1: that'll be for sure, that'll come up the next next. 1666 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 7: Well, most definitely come up. 1667 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 8: Have you talked about Philly at all? 1668 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 3: No? 1669 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 2: No, because we only talked about the Giant. 1670 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 8: But if we talked about Philly, you'd. 1671 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 5: Say I was more because I hate the play and 1672 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:12,560 Speaker 5: I respect it. 1673 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 2: You know how you respect. 1674 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,560 Speaker 5: Something like I hate it because nobody can stop it. 1675 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 5: I respect it because they are legitimately then the people 1676 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 5: who's mastery, so you know, and I don't call it 1677 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 5: the test push. I don't call it the brother the 1678 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 5: shlve tune in next week without a red. 1679 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 8: Okay, So since you guys haven't previewed the Eagles, you 1680 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 8: definitely I think you'd say that Rocky's fake. 1681 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 7: Oh I hate Rocky, most definitely hate Rocky. I'm more 1682 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 7: of a drag old guy anyway. 1683 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: But there's there's one more Caroline, So no, so be 1684 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: you can doesn't need to be off your sheet, but 1685 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 1: you gotta get this to be over. 1686 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 5: Okay. 1687 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so right now, Logan's right, this already happened. 1688 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 8: He'll make a completely irrelevant reason slash excuse to why 1689 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 8: his fantasy team sucks. And he said reason or. 1690 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 10: I just said, she's over got the reason it sucks. 1691 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 5: He's sitting right now, Jason, the manager of. 1692 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 2: My team is the list. 1693 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 3: But look when he won, it was all him. 1694 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the mast I'm the smartest. Listen, when you 1695 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 5: got the mightis touch everything you touched her and to. 1696 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 2: Go now, I do know that smoothism, that smoothism that well, 1697 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 2: I think that does it. So she's over right. 1698 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 1: We got four of them correct, and that should give 1699 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: you an idea of how consistent for this in the 1700 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 1: way he speaks and what he talks. 1701 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 3: About insistently tale lies. 1702 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, so make sure you got Caroline. Thank 1703 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. It's always a pleasure. 1704 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Maybe we get your comments up to three. If you 1705 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: like Caroline on the show, leave a comment. Let's see 1706 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 1: if we get her going there. 1707 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 2: All right? 1708 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 5: Well, since Halloween coming up, you know all the tall 1709 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 5: tales we hear about in history and stuff, they have 1710 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 5: truth to them that is true. 1711 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 2: Like me, I tried to get in the mirror and 1712 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 2: say blooded mirror. Three times. I see the mirror story 1713 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 2: drip I ran out of it, could have been. 1714 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 5: Residuced, weeat. 1715 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 7: I don't know, but these are these, these tall tales 1716 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 7: from the past. 1717 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 5: They got a little truth. 1718 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,640 Speaker 2: To all right. Well, thank you guys so much for 1719 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 2: joining us. 1720 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Make sure you tune in for our preview podcast at 1721 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,679 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia game on Friday. 1722 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Can we check that out? 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