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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your guide to

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Speaker 1: the White Tail Woods presented by First Light, creating proven

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Speaker 1: Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host, Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. This week on

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Speaker 2: the show, I'm joined by Brian Lemke of The Deer

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Speaker 2: Society to discuss his double booner twenty twenty three season,

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Speaker 2: the lessons he learned along the way, and his favorite

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Speaker 2: late season protactics. All right, welcome to the Wired to

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Speaker 2: Hunt podcast, brought to you by First Light in their

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Speaker 2: Camel for Conservation initiative, which I love, love seeing him

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Speaker 2: give them back to the National Deer Association and making

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Speaker 2: good things happen for deer deer hunters. And today on

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Speaker 2: the podcast, we are talking to a deer hunter who's

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Speaker 2: had some pretty good things happened to himself this year,

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Speaker 2: talking to Brian Lemke. He is the co owner of

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Speaker 2: Almandai Productions. He is the host of the Deer Society

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Speaker 2: podcast and a frequently seen hunter on the Deer Society

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel. You know, diehard deer hunter from the Upper Midwest,

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Speaker 2: and he has wrapped up or has just about wrapped

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Speaker 2: up and absolutely banner hunting season. This year. He has

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Speaker 2: killed his biggest buck ever, not once but twice this

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Speaker 2: season and broke that magical one hundred and seventy inch

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Speaker 2: mark both times. You know, it's it's not every year

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Speaker 2: that that happens, not every lifetime that that happens for

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Speaker 2: a lot of people. So I want to have Brian

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Speaker 2: on the show to talk through this season, talk through

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Speaker 2: those hunts, talk through the kind of unique circumstances in

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Speaker 2: each one. One was one of those hunts that goes

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Speaker 2: on for years, and one of these hunts was in

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Speaker 2: some ways a surprise, and you know that's how hunting

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Speaker 2: goes sometimes. So I wanted to talk to him about

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Speaker 2: how these came together, what he learned along the way,

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Speaker 2: the tactics, the strategies, the approaches he took that led

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Speaker 2: to this extra special season, And then I wanted to

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Speaker 2: wrap it up with a discussion around the late season.

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Speaker 2: You know, for those of us still trying to fill

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Speaker 2: a tag at this time of the year in December

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Speaker 2: or January, what are some of those things that can

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Speaker 2: work that can help you close the deal and wrap

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Speaker 2: up your year on a high note. So that is

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Speaker 2: the game plan today. I think it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: fun conversation. We cover some good stuff. I think you're

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Speaker 2: gonna enjoy it, and I think it's a perfect way

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Speaker 2: for us to head into the holidays kind of on

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Speaker 2: a lighter note. Right, We're gonna hear, We're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: some fun stories, We're gonna learn some things, but mostly

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Speaker 2: we're gonna celebrate hunting season. We're gonna celebrate this great

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Speaker 2: fall that is now kind of edging towards the end,

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Speaker 2: which is always bittersweet. But as we approach Christmas in

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Speaker 2: the new year, I think heading into with a smile

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Speaker 2: on her faces is the way to go. So well,

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Speaker 2: that all said, and without any further ado, let's get

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Speaker 2: to my chat with Brian Lenkey. All right with me

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Speaker 2: now on the show. First time guest. We've got Brian Lemke. Brian,

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Speaker 2: welcome the show.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, thanks for having me on. Yeah, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we're doing this, glad to connect. We haven't

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Speaker 2: really got to talk at all in the past, but

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Speaker 2: I've been checking out your work for a number of

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Speaker 2: years now, watching some Dear Society videos, listening to some

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Speaker 2: of the podcasts, and I've enjoyed it, and so you've

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Speaker 2: to get a hold of Brian someday. So glad it happened,

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Speaker 2: and appreciate you making time to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it, man, And have obviously seen and

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Speaker 3: listened to a lot of your guys' podcasts and you

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Speaker 3: do a great job. Definitely a fan and yeah, fortunate

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's there's good, good things to talk about today,

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Speaker 2: because it seems like you've been having like a season

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Speaker 3: you know, growing up as a little kid, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I can remember, you know, growing up as a kid,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think there's a lot of us that

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Speaker 2: and then we're thinking, man, I want to someday kill

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Speaker 2: It is more and more of these days in many states,

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Speaker 2: What what do you think it was it for you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's interesting. So, you know, started bowl

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Speaker 3: other people shoot deer of a certain caliber, and man,

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Speaker 3: I think you could walk up to one hundred and

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Speaker 3: and like they're even a different caliber of deer, even

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Speaker 3: though one scores more than the other. Like you walk

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Speaker 2: That's pretty dark special. Yeah, that's for sure. I've yet

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Speaker 2: to lose the sense of awe of a really old

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Speaker 2: a young, high scoring deer. There's just like the body

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's why white tail hunting is so awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty done. Great. So Sticker ten, right, that's

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Speaker 3: You know, it was crazy. So there's a piece that

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Speaker 3: easier said than done, right, But like we have to

431
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: all be on the same page and say, look, you know,

432
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 3: we got to work it out somehow. Maybe you go

433
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 3: and hunt and then you get first picked tonight. And

434
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: if we're going to hunt next Tuesday, well then you

435
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 3: get first pick on where you're gonna hunt. And I

436
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 3: won't say that I have a great answer for it,

437
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 3: because I don't think that there is one, but I

438
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: think it's you have to put yourself in the mindset

439
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 3: of Look, it's a team effort, as hard as that is.

440
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm gonna be happy if Lancer

441
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: Kyle gets them, and you know if I get them, great,

442
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: I think they'll be happy for me too. Again, Wait,

443
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: that sounds like a perfect environment or scenario, and it's

444
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: hard to feel that way, but you know that's just it.

445
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: So you know, I think we all have a pretty

446
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: good understanding of you know, what stands we can hunt,

447
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: what stands we can waiting for the right time. You know,

448
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 3: a lot of us are busy, so like a couple

449
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 3: those other guys are filming or guiding during the fall too,

450
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 3: So it's not like any one of us has the

451
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: opportunity to just go in there and pound it every day.

452
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: Like I might have this week and Lance might have

453
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: next week or you know, so it all works out

454
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: in the end, I guess, is the simple answer.

455
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: So if you have it sounds that you kind of

456
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: rotate who gets first pick to some degree, right, But

457
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: what happens if you have an encounter, like if you're

458
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 2: in hunt multiple days in a row, and so today

459
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: you have a close encounter with the sticker ten and

460
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: now tomorrow you had and you had first pick that night,

461
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: so you had first pick, you picked a spot, you

462
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: almost killed him but didn't quite come together. You of

463
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: course want to be right back there tomorrow or wherever

464
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: you think he's going to be. Do you get do

465
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: you get like a Mulligan and get to go in

466
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: again because he had the close call and you kind

467
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: of have like that, or or do you guys have

468
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: to rotate?

469
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll tell you it kind of happened this

470
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 3: year kind of bit. So you know, I think it's yeah,

471
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: if you if you have an encounter with a deer

472
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: and you want to go back in there, it's like,

473
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say no, don't go back in there,

474
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 3: like like I think you should, and I'll tell them

475
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: the story Lance was super close to killing this deer

476
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: a few days before I killed him, and I would

477
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 3: have been super happy if you did just worked out

478
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: that I was there and shot him on that day.

479
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, if you have an encounter with

480
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 3: the deer, I think it's it's only right that you

481
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: go in there, you know, back after them, and you know,

482
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: we try not to step on each other's toes, and

483
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's what it is. I've accepted the

484
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: fact that's the hard thing about group hunting, you know,

485
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: you accept the fact that, hey, that's part of it.

486
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: I couldn't lease this piece just on my own, and

487
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: neither could they. So that's that's part of the give

488
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: and take of the whole deal.

489
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to believe that you more than

490
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: make up the possible downside of the hunting being a

491
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: little bit more challenging. I'm betting you make up for

492
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: it with the fun and the camaraderie you have getting

493
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: to like do all this stuff with your buddies, right.

494
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, definitely, you know, sharing that intel back and forth,

495
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 3: like you know, early season, those first couple weeks of

496
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: the season, it's like, man and the half was Sticker

497
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: ten it was like, okay, where's stick or ten? You know,

498
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm running five ten cameras, Lance Kyle, They're all running cameras.

499
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, in the morning and sending

500
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: pictures like okay, where was he last night? Yeah? And

501
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: that deer the cool thing about him. I actually kind

502
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: of changed his name right at the very end of

503
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: Waldo because that year traveled more this year than really

504
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: any other deal that we've had on that farm. I mean,

505
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: he was north to south, to east to west, all

506
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: over the place.

507
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: So I guess, let's let's hear it. How did it?

508
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: How did that year five come together?

509
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? So he started showing up in velvet looking huge.

510
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: I mean he was. He was a giant. He had

511
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: made that that next leap and turned from sticker ten

512
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: into really sticker twelve. His main frame six by six

513
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: had matching stickers. He actually had a little pigtail drop time,

514
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: split brow times like, I mean, he was he was

515
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: the man. And you know, it was one of those

516
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: things where we were just getting intel and you know,

517
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: he was there all the time, but he was all

518
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: over the place. We this this particular section is like

519
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: four hundred acres and it kind of splits up, like

520
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: we have the north section, the middle section, in the

521
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: south section, and a lot of time the deer on

522
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: the north side, stand north side, south side, deer stand

523
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: on the south side. Well, this year he would be

524
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: on the north side in the evening, south side in

525
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 3: the middle of the night, west side in the morning.

526
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: It was crazy. There was no rhyme or reason what

527
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: he was doing. So, you know, I just started trying

528
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: to understand, you know, what he did the previous year,

529
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 3: So like, where was his core area? Once October came,

530
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: where was it? And breaking that all down, we're sharing intel.

531
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: Kyle actually went and it was one of those deals

532
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: where this is kind of a good example. So you know,

533
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: early season opening weekend, that deer was there. I don't

534
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 3: think that he was going to be super killable yet.

535
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: He daylighted maybe a couple of times. But Kyle, he

536
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: had time to hunt. He's like, guys, I'm gonna hunt

537
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: opening opening week you know, is anybody else gonna hunt?

538
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: And I think Lance was gone. I said, man, go hunt,

539
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: I I can hunt. I'm not gonna I'm gonna stay

540
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: out of there, like go get him, and he hunted.

541
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: Didn't end up seeing him, but like he had quite

542
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: a stretch there where he hunted, and the deer was

543
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: around just pretty nocturnal. Yet so finally as we get

544
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: into and I had maybe hunted once before, kind of

545
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: that mid October time, and I'm a big believer in

546
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: scout more than you hunt, so like, I try to

547
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: get my cameras, let them do a lot of the

548
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: intel and scouting for me, but I try to stay

549
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: out of there until those windows are kind of right.

550
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to say this arrogantly, but when

551
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: I go and hunt, like I legitimately think that I

552
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: have a chance of killing the deer, right, So I

553
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: don't trust me don't always get them, but like when

554
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, like I want to put all the

555
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 3: odds in my favor. So anyways, this deer, we start

556
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: seeing that he moves kind of to the northwest side

557
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: of our property, and it's kind of what he did

558
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: last year around that mid October time, kind of started

559
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: to shrink his core area down. And then it was

560
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: like boom, We're getting pictured on in the same spot

561
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: every night, you know, every morning. It wasn't during the daylight,

562
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 3: but ended up going in at this point crops are

563
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: starting to come off, and I hung a new stand

564
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: kind of in the in the middle of this. We

565
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: call it the deep middle field. It's it's kind of

566
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: a big field. Right in the middle of the property

567
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: was corn. It just got cut and hung us out there,

568
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: and I'm like, this is where I think, you know,

569
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 3: we can kill this deer with a north wind. We

570
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: had a bunch of stands on the other side of

571
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: the timber that we can help on the south wind.

572
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: And anyways, lo and behold. I never had a picture

573
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: of that deer coming out that way, but I just

574
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: knew that. I figured he was going to do that

575
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: because he did that a lot last year.

576
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: It's so sorry. I was going to ask, why is

577
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: it just based off of that historical pattern or was

578
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: there something about how that terrain set up or something.

579
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: So basically, yeah, so basically it's a it's a big

580
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: drainage ditch and we never go in there. It's all

581
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: sanctuary and it's probably I say it's a ditch, I

582
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: mean it's it's a significant section of tim We're probably

583
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: oh three hundred and fifty four hundred yards wide, but

584
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: just a big ditch with egg on either side. And

585
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: he usually goes out to that north side, but I

586
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: know when he comes out to that south side, like

587
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: he's got to be coming by there somewhere. There was

588
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: a big scrape there. A lot of dolls were coming

589
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: out there, and I know that the previous year I

590
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: got a lot of pictures of him coming out that way.

591
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: He was coming out more on the other side, but

592
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: we can't hunt that side with a with a north wind,

593
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: so it was tough. I just knew we needed to

594
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: have something on that other side for that north wind. Well,

595
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: Lance was coming in to hunt and across that field

596
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: probably two hundred yards away, we have a groundbline there

597
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: and Lance was coming down to hunt. I think it

598
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: was Thursday. He's like, I'm going to go to that

599
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: groundbline and I said, well, I said, just hung this

600
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: other stand. I said, maybe you should go sit that

601
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: other standing. It's close to the timber. And he's like, well,

602
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go and kind of observe and see what happens.

603
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: I said, okay, you know, I said, I I may

604
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: go in and hunt that other stand Friday. It was

605
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: gonna be Friday morning and see what happened. So that

606
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: was kind of the plan. I didn't hunt that Thursday.

607
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: He goes in there Thursday night. Guess who shows up

608
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: walks right under that stand stick or ted. So he

609
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: sees the deer and he comes out and he actually

610
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: called to him, and that deer just stands up bully

611
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: walks four steps towards him, and I'm like, I'm watching

612
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: the video. I'm like, oh my god, that dear's gonna come,

613
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: you know. After he's showing me, and a dough ran

614
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: out behind him and he ended up circling and chasing

615
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: that dough off. Well, so he's like, well, next morning,

616
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: I want to go back in there. I'm like, yeah,

617
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: go back in there. And he's like, I know you

618
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: were going to sit that stand that you hung and

619
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: it's just across the field. He's like, you can still

620
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: go sit there. And I'm like, dude, we got plenty

621
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: of ground here. You go hunt that deer you know

622
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: this morning and whatever, like you saw him go on him. Well,

623
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: he goes and sits there. Sure enough, that deer comes out,

624
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: walks right under that stand again and comes out and

625
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: he sees him and ends up following a door. So

626
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, at this point, I'm like you know, man,

627
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: I wish that, you know, you have encounters this deer,

628
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: like I wish that you could shoot him. And on

629
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: the other hand, I'm thinking, like, man, I knew that

630
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: deer was going to do this. It's just a gut instinct,

631
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: like he should have sat in that standard or I

632
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: should have been there.

633
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: Whatever.

634
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Well, he had to leave that evening go back and

635
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: take care of some family stuff, and so I went

636
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: and jumped in that stand in the evening and had

637
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: a guy that just started working for us names Patrick,

638
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: and he was filming me and sitting there and we

639
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: see this buck chasing the doo below us, and he's like, man,

640
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: that looks like a good deer, and I said, oh,

641
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: that's Wide nine. It was a deer called Why nine,

642
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: and he's just a big name, but he was just

643
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: this five and a half year old heavy He's one

644
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: of those deer that's like super impressive. I mean, he

645
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: has basis for days, kind of short times, but like

646
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: just a gnarly old like big face. So he asked me,

647
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: He's like, if that deer comes out, you're gonna shoot him.

648
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, I don't know, I said, I

649
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, game time decision, I said, maybe. Well, he

650
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: ends up coming out in the cornfield, probably one hundred

651
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: yards away from us, and right about that time, a

652
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: doe comes up the trail right under us, and I'm like,

653
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: we're about to find.

654
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: Out off your wheel, so decision.

655
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: Anyways, that deer turns and here he comes bline right

656
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: to us, and we're that standing I hung was in

657
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: a big oak tree. We weren't very high off the ground,

658
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: probably twelve feet off the ground, just the way the

659
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: limbs were. And he stops at fifteen yards and starts

660
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: making a scrape on the oak tree that we're sitting in,

661
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: and I had my bowl there and I'm a release

662
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: on it and I'm just looking at him like God,

663
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: And for whatever reason, in that moment, any other day,

664
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: I probably would have shot this year and I didn't.

665
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: It was just like I didn't feel it. They turned

666
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: and he walked down the trail and Patrick looked at me.

667
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: I'll never forget and he says, what are you doing?

668
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, I don't know. I don't know.

669
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: But then it was like boom, here we go. The

670
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: next morning went and jumped right back in that same stand,

671
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: and it was interesting because this deer. So I was

672
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: going in the gate, going the gate on the south side,

673
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: and it's a hike to get into the middle. I'm

674
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: going in the gate and I just pull up my

675
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: reveal up quick, and I look and there's sticker ten

676
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: on the far east side of the property, like way

677
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: far east side, Like well, I'm not gonna go and

678
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: chase a picture, like I know where he's been, where

679
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: he wants to be. I'm still going both my plan.

680
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't an hour half hour after daylight that year

681
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: got all the way around me. And I'm talking this

682
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: is probably seventeen hundred yards ish. That year got all

683
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: the way around me, ended up coming out my west

684
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: so on the complete other side, comes out in the cornfield,

685
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: and here he came. I mean, he just came across

686
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: that cornfield. He was cruise and he checks some does

687
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: on the way and ended up shooting him at like

688
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: I think he was like thirty nine yards out in

689
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: that standing cut cornfield. And that was it just fortunate.

690
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of intel, a lot of history

691
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 3: played into that. Going with the gut. I think waiting

692
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: for the right time to hunt him was kind of crucial.

693
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: Like I didn't. I didn't need to go in there

694
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: and burn days just to burn days, Like I wanted

695
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: to wait and let him do what he was going

696
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: to do and become killable before you go in and

697
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: try to kill him and then just I mean, there's

698
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: obviously a lot of luck involved there, me being the

699
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: one that was there, and and the deer showing up

700
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: when I was, you know, when I was there.

701
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: So did that deer teach anything after hunting him so

702
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: hard this year and watching him the year previous and

703
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 2: and all that history. Is there anything you can take

704
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: away from this? Yeah?

705
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: I think, you know, one of the main things is

706
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: big deer. And I've noticed this several other other big deer,

707
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: and not just ones of shop ones have filmed big

708
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: deer like that that have a core area that you

709
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: can hold their habitual so they will do the same

710
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: things over and over again. Like I look at a

711
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: lot of yearly historical data, I pay a lot of

712
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: attention to intel. Well, my cameras are telling me. But

713
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: like from four to five years old, that deer did

714
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: a lot of the same things. I killed another big

715
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: deer a few years back, like to the te you know,

716
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: it was like when the rut hit. He was in

717
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: this same spot for five days. Like I think those bigger,

718
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: older deer figure out what's safe, right, and they just

719
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: learned that after doing it year after year, and they'll

720
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 3: continue to do those, you know, same things. So I think,

721
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 3: you know, looking at that historical data if you can,

722
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: I think is really really crucial. And then you know,

723
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: not over pressuring your deer before you go in and

724
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: he becomes killable. Some deer become killable the first week

725
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: of the season, right, you get him on a pattern whatever.

726
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: I thought this year potentially would be killable, maybe the

727
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: first week, but he just wasn't. He was nocturnal. He

728
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: was coming to food, but just at night. So it

729
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, wait till the time is right and

730
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: then go in there and kill him.

731
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: How do you keep track of that historical data? That's

732
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: something that I personally geek out about a lot, and

733
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: my buddies give me a hard time about the spreadsheets

734
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: I make trying to keep track of all that kind

735
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: of stuff. But I've always thought, like, how do people

736
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: keep the cell in their head? Are you are you

737
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: one of those guys that can just store it up there,

738
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: or do you have to write it down or put

739
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: it somewhere.

740
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so that's an interesting question. Like I

741
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: learned from Tom uh Interbow over there, who's got thirteen

742
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: million yellow note pads with notes of what this dough

743
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: did back in nineteen seventy two, you know, with the

744
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: wind direction and all that stuff. So yeah, I do that.

745
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm a big one of keeping. Like I make sure,

746
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 3: even though I'm running cell cameras, like to go get

747
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 3: those cards after the season or whenever I can log

748
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 3: all that day to try to organize it the best

749
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: that I can right at the moment. So when I

750
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: excuse me, when I go back, you know, I can say, okay,

751
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: look here's kind of what that deer did and make notes.

752
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: You know. Fortunate for what I do. Like, we film

753
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: a lot of our stuff, so like I can always

754
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: go back and look at footage too, and you know

755
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: that stuff's all really organized some big server system here,

756
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: so you know, it's easier for me to go back

757
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: and kind of compare footage to trail camera and that

758
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: kind of thing too. But I don't have a long

759
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: list of stuff. It's you know, I guess a lot

760
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: of it's up here and just you know. I guess

761
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about it.

762
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, speaking of the uh, you know, storing

763
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: all of your trail camera pictures and logging all those

764
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: I've had, I don't know, you'd call it just a

765
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: folder system of all of my bucks, like older than two.

766
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: I usually save every buck that's like two or older.

767
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Since two thousand and nine, I think I've had them

768
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: all on my computer, organized by property by year, and

769
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: I've kept that going so fourteen years or whatever it is.

770
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: And last week I was I ran out of space

771
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: on my computer, and so I was clearing out some

772
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: old podcast files and different things like that, and so

773
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: I wiped a whole bunch of stuff like that, stuff

774
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: that I didn't need anymore, so i'd have some you know,

775
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: space in the computer. And then the other night, I

776
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: was looking for a camera picture, looking for some picture

777
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: that I wanted to reference back to him, like why

778
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: is my trail camera folder not coming up? Where's my

779
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: trail camera folder? And I somehow deleted my entire trail

780
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: camera archive. It's gone.

781
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: That is brutal.

782
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness, I yeah, that's devastating.

783
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm glad.

784
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Like the only silver lining is that the last two years,

785
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: all of my camera I've used only sell cameras the

786
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: last two years and then use them partially for the

787
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: last like probably three or four. So I have a

788
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff still in the cloud. So at

789
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: least like the recent dead like deer, I'm still hunting. Now,

790
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: I'll be able to look back on and and get

791
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: that stuff. But still like all the pictures I have

792
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: of all these bucks over the years that you sometimes

793
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: go back there and look or I need a picture

794
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: of this deer, that deer like it's gone.

795
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: Man, that's brutal. Yeah, that's a good lesson. Back it up.

796
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know, so, yeah, I do know,

797
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: and I just didn't didn't follow follow the advice I

798
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: would have given. So, man, anyways, start a new catalog. Yeah,

799
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: so you killed stick or ten your first booner, and

800
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 2: you're flying high and then you go to Iowa. How

801
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: did how did this buck in Iowa come to be?

802
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: It looks like, am I right that that buck's even bigger?

803
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks and then and there maybe substantially, Yeah, yeah,

804
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: he's they're actually pretty close, to be honest with you,

805
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: score wise, the buck in Iowa is kind of that next,

806
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: next level up, you know, kind of what we talked about.

807
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you you hold stick or ten and he

808
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: is just big. He's big framed, he's just that beautiful

809
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: stack tie and he's got it all. And then you

810
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: hold this Iowa deer and he's just heavy, gnarly like

811
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: probably you know, I don't know exactly how old this

812
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: deer was, you know, for sure five could be six,

813
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: easily seven, you know, like in that that upper eight structure,

814
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: but super massive heavy. The only thing that I think

815
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: the reason that they score real similar that year in

816
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: Iowa actually had pretty short beam. So like he on

817
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: the one side is one beams right beam was only

818
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: eighteen and a half inches, and I think this other

819
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: one was twenty one. But again, he had it all.

820
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: He had a big inline time and that deer, I

821
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's interesting, kind of a different story.

822
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of history. I didn't put

823
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: in a ton of time with that deer outside of

824
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: of killing him. So I was hunting with some friends

825
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: of mine down a big Buck outfitter or big Buck

826
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: down outfitters in Iowa, and I've known those guys for

827
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: quite a few years, and one of the shows that

828
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: we produced Love the Grind, those guys hunt down there

829
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 3: quite a bit and hunted down there this archery season,

830
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 3: and they were going back down there. Trey's wife Kira

831
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: was going to be hunting, and I had the opportunity

832
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: to go down there during the first shotgun season and

833
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: hunt with all those guys. So you know, I was

834
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: pretty excited still, like you said, flying high from this

835
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: this other Minnesota buck. I mean, my season was made already.

836
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: And there was a deer that that Jeff from Love

837
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: the Grind actually had had two encounters with during the

838
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: bow season and talking to Corbyn somebodies down there, they're like, man,

839
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: this deer is still there, and like he is, he's there,

840
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: and I think we got a good chance at him. So,

841
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: you know, the week before the season sending me lots

842
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: of tru camera photos and this year is like he's

843
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: all over the place. He's you know, here mid days,

844
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: three times a day in the day, ladies there and

845
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: he's going to this food, big food source, a big

846
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: standing beanfield, and I think, you know, there's probably still

847
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: tail end of the rout there. That's why he was

848
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 3: moving during the day a lot. So I was like man,

849
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: I was getting excited, you know.

850
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: And.

851
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: Probably three days, four days before I got down there,

852
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 3: deer quit doing it, Like he absolutely changed his pattern,

853
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 3: wasn't shown up on the north side of the farm anymore.

854
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: And they're like, man, what what happened? Where'd you go?

855
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: And I think it was just, you know, he was

856
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: at that point where you know, temperatures were mild, didn't

857
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: need to drive him to food. He wasn't you know,

858
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: really focused on dos anymore. Well, the south side of

859
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: the farm is big crp tall grass, just some little

860
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: creek bottoms, and they said, maybe we need to shift

861
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 3: our focus down there. Well, set up some cameras. Boom,

862
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: there he was, and he had shifted from the north

863
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: side of the farm down to the south side of

864
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: the farm.

865
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: How far is that?

866
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, probably, you know, not super far if

867
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: you look at like a section, you know, north side

868
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: south side, but I bet probably from where he shifted

869
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: his core area was fifteen hundred yards. Yeah, so not

870
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: a super long ways, but like from him religiously doing

871
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: what he was doing to now not doing it at

872
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: all anymore, and just in those few days and they said, okay,

873
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: well here's where we got to change. They went in there,

874
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: put a blind on that CRP. You know, it's kind

875
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: of backwards, so like you're switching. You're in those December

876
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: months and you're thinking, Okay, got to start focusing on food. Well,

877
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 3: now we're shifting away from the food. And it was

878
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: one of those deals, like, man, we got to kill

879
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: this deer in where he's feeling comfortable. He's living in

880
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: the CRP, nobody's bothering him. Just and we got down

881
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 3: there and I remember climbing into the blinding to get

882
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: light and it was like there wasn't a lot of

883
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: timber around it all. There was some across the road,

884
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: but it was just like these little tiny creek drainages.

885
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: And man, we saw pile of deer the first day,

886
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 3: I mean a pile. Didn't see him, saw some bucks,

887
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: a lot of doughs, just working through the CRP. You

888
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: could tell they just felt comfortable there. Second day we

889
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: went in there. We were in the morning, in the evening,

890
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: and it was the second evening we were actually watching

891
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: some deer out the right side of our blind and

892
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 3: I saw him spun all the way around Connor, who's

893
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: filming me. He looks down to the left and say, hey,

894
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: there's a buck coming down the creek and this is

895
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: probably an hour before dark, and he's like, it's him,

896
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: it's him. And sure enough, I turned around and I'm like,

897
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: I don't see him. Where is he? He's like, he's

898
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: right there, He's right there, right in front of us.

899
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Connor, I don't see him.

900
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: Wherethy right there? Right?

901
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: We're running some secondary angles in there, and it's cool,

902
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: Like that's kind of the coolest part for me is

903
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: just watch this interaction back and forth. And finally he

904
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: was just in one section where the blind, you know,

905
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: the corner of the blind was there, and I peeked

906
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: out to the left and there he was, and he

907
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: was coming and kind of had to wait for him

908
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: to get clear because he was behind some crp and

909
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: then it'd be open and whatever else. And yeah, made

910
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 3: it and made a shot. I was shooting a custom

911
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: muzzloader from Elevated Arms. That was a sweet, sweet gun,

912
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: and shot him in one hundred and eighty seven yards,

913
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: I think, And that was kind of end of that deal,

914
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: you know. It was. It was interesting because I had

915
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: seen a lot of trail camera photos and videos of

916
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: that deer and you know, some of he looks like

917
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: he's you know, one sixty. Other ones he turns, he

918
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: looks like he could be two hundred. So there was

919
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: a lot of and when I saw him, you know,

920
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: it was like I looked at one side and that

921
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: was it. Didn't look at him again. Everybody's like, how

922
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: do you look? How do you look? I'm like, I

923
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: couldn't tell you. I just know it's him. And I

924
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: remember walking up and there's a group of us that

925
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: walked up there, and it was like, man, that hit

926
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: me like a freight train. When I walked up there

927
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: and picked them up. It was just like, you know,

928
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: I was so appreciative this season I already had, and

929
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: then to have this year now holding this year, it

930
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: was like am I dreaming? Somebody pinched me because it

931
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: was like this year is a whole different even caliber

932
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: than that one. And you know, then it was like,

933
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: oh my god, this dream season. Everybody saw me and

934
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, everybody, just calmed down. I want to

935
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: appreciate this one for what it is, you know, like

936
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to take away from that one or

937
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: take away from this one. It was just, man, I

938
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: still kind of surreal it didn't really sink until I

939
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: got back here and started getting back in the in

940
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: the swing of things, and it's like, man, it's been

941
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: an incredible year for sure.

942
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: So when you look back on this whole season, and

943
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: you kind of talked like, you've had this progression since

944
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: you moved up to Wisconsin and started taking it more serious.

945
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: And now over the years you've gotten deeper and deeper

946
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: and deeper, and you've killed a lot of good deer,

947
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: but you still hadn't crossed that, you know, that pinnacle

948
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: mark that so many of us kind of obsess over,

949
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: and then you did twice. When you look back on

950
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: this year, is there anything can you attribute this success

951
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: you had this year to anything different that you did?

952
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Is there any step that you've taken that you think

953
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: was like that thing that got you over the hump,

954
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: or or was there was this really just hey, this

955
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: was your year and you've been doing the right things

956
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: all these years and this just happened to be the

957
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: year that it all lined up just perfect.

958
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: You know, that's a good question. I think it's a

959
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: combination of both. I think it's one. You know, I

960
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: think I obsessed this year even more and I've done

961
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: this for years, but like obsessed over you know, the

962
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: strategy and looking at on X I mean daily and

963
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: pictures and like just trying to build these strategies and

964
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: take you know, eliminate as many variable as I can

965
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: and take it to the next level. I won't say

966
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: that I did anything more crazy than that. I think it.

967
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 3: You know, I think I had the opportunity at two

968
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: deer that we're of that caliber. Not saying that I've

969
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: never chased a deer that big, but I mean not

970
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: one that sticks out that's like, man, I had an

971
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: opportunity to chase that dear. So I think the deer

972
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: we're there.

973
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: You know.

974
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: It's the old adage you can't shoot a booner or

975
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: two hundred each year if you don't have one. So

976
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: I think that all lined up this year. And I

977
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: do think the other thing too, is and this is

978
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: even outside of hunting kind of an awful one, is

979
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: just building relationships, like you know, building relationships with not

980
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: only people that you have opportunities through so like you know,

981
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: building those those friendships in Iowa and you know, with

982
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: love the grind, having that opportunity to go down there

983
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: and hunt, building the relationships with the people on my lease,

984
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: you know, having the Deer Society guys over here, JJ

985
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: and Brian and Chris, like man sitting down and looking

986
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: and going through these strategies almost daily and what did

987
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: the deer do last night? And you know, getting those

988
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: different opinions. So like, as much as I was the

989
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: one that shot these deer, there's so much more behind

990
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: the scenes that I that I look when I look

991
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: at the rack setting there, like, those are the relationships

992
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: and those strategies between people that that I think was

993
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: a big standout for me this year.

994
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a great point. And so I have

995
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: a hard time convincing my wife of this. But I'm

996
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: trying to explain her the value of my mounts or

997
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: keeping the euros and all that kind of stuff. She's like,

998
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: I just don't get why you need these all over

999
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: the place. And it goes back to what you said, Like,

1000
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: when I see that animal again, it brings back not

1001
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: just the hunt, but it brings back everything that was

1002
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: going on. It brings back the relationships and the friendships

1003
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: and the ups and the downs and all that stuff

1004
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: just comes flooding back to you every time you stop

1005
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: and look at it, and you stop and look at

1006
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: them so often, and it's it's pretty special, how you know,

1007
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: something like an animal can capsulate encapsulate so many other

1008
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: things too.

1009
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. And then you know it's again talking

1010
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: about cliche things, but like you know, talk about in

1011
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: anything in life, enjoying the chase and enjoying the process.

1012
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: You know, like when I look at the deer they're

1013
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: on my wall. I hardly ever say that deer scores

1014
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: one fifty or that deer. It's like, man, remember that,

1015
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: remember that hunt, Remember that everything that went into that.

1016
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: And that's why you know it's hard. I guess it's

1017
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: easy for somebody that's tagged out to say to somebody else,

1018
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: like enjoy the process. Who still has tagging their pocket

1019
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: or is having a tough season or whatever, But like, man,

1020
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: that's that's what it's about. Like you gotta love the

1021
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: for lack of better terms, love the grind, love the

1022
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: strategy involved in it. I can tell you, like when

1023
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: I shot stick or ten, like it was a bittersweet moment,

1024
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 3: like it was one of those things like man, I

1025
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: don't get to look wake up in the morning and

1026
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: try to figure out where he is or like it

1027
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: was like it's almost like this connection or this this

1028
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: intimate relationship that you have and it's like you kill

1029
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 3: him and that's the goal, right, But then it's like, man,

1030
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: you know, you almost miss that, Like I missed the

1031
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: It's like right now I'm tagged down Minnesota. I wake

1032
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: up and I'm like, I might look at my cameras.

1033
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: I might not, but I love that, you know, Yeah,

1034
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: that's true. It's a weird thing when you realize like, oh,

1035
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't obsessively check my cameras already. When

1036
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: that when that deer's gone, it is a little different.

1037
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: So so let's let's imagine a different scenario though. Let's

1038
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: imagine you didn't kill the stick or ten. Let's imagine

1039
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: he was still out there right now and you still had,

1040
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, a few weeks this season. What would you

1041
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: be doing at this time of year to try to

1042
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: kill a deer like that? What's your late season approach

1043
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: that you would that you'd be leaning on now?

1044
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, it's interesting because this year, like

1045
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: right now in Minnesota, it's mild, you know, we have

1046
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: no snow, Mild temperatures typically late season, Like I'm going

1047
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: to focus one hundred percent on food for the most part.

1048
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: Now that food a lot of times for us is

1049
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 3: standing corn, standing soybeans. Standing soybeans can be absolutely lethal

1050
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: this time of year and can be one of my

1051
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: favorite times to hunt if I still have a tag,

1052
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: just because those deer they get back on their patterns.

1053
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: You know, they're going from betting to food. So you

1054
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: know what I would be doing is finding where the

1055
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: food is and really hunting evenings waiting for those those

1056
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: deer to come to me. Now, I think talk about food,

1057
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: you know, it's easy to say, well, standing beans, standing

1058
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 3: corn right now. I don't think it's cold enough where

1059
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: we have the temperatures here that are driving deer in

1060
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: the daylight to standing corner beans. I think there's when

1061
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: you talk about food, there's a lot that's overlooked. Like

1062
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: I think woody brows, deer feeding in the woods right

1063
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: now is a huge thing. Like if you have any

1064
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: kind of downtree tops or hinge cutting or or anything

1065
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: like that, there's a lot of deer utilizing that right now.

1066
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: I shot a deer with in Buffalo County shoot there's

1067
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: probably twenty ten over at Tom's and it was January second.

1068
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: I'll never forget it, and it was a big a

1069
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 3: point and I shot him in the woods. Now he

1070
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: was going to a food source, but wasn't getting there

1071
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: till night. Got in the woods and that deer was

1072
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 3: feeding on what he brows. It was negative eighteen degrees.

1073
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: We had snow, but it was it was a matter

1074
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: of getting in there and understanding where that deer was

1075
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 3: feeding in the daylight. So I think that's that's really

1076
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: the key to any late season hunting right now. Understanding

1077
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: that these deer aren't doing a whole lot like they're resting,

1078
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: they're recovering from the rout. They're going from bedding to

1079
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: food whatever that food source is. So if you can

1080
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: try to understand that and then get in a position

1081
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 3: where you know they might move in the daylight, you know,

1082
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: I think that's that's your best option. It can be hard,

1083
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: I think, you know, like last year, I want to

1084
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 3: go back to that encounter a stick or ten. So

1085
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: we had snow last year, it was cold, and this

1086
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: was the last days of December and our season goes

1087
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: out December thirty first here in Minnesota. We had the

1088
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: farmer leave an acre and a half of standing beans

1089
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: and all he did, though he didn't he didn't give

1090
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: us the option of where we were leaving it. Like

1091
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: he was going to leave one head row and that

1092
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: was going to be it, and he left it right

1093
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: along the wood edge, so it was going to be

1094
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: hard to hunt with a bow. Like you could try

1095
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: to get in the middle of it and put a

1096
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: tree standing in the middle. But like south wind, you're

1097
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: blowing into the woods into the bedding, north wind you're

1098
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: blowing out into the beans. And it was like, what

1099
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: do you do? So Adam had a tag and I'm like, man,

1100
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: I know there were deer coming there. What do I do?

1101
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: We had like five days left of the season, and

1102
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: I said, you know, the only option is I don't

1103
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: like this option, but the only option is to go

1104
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 3: and put a ground blind right in the middle of

1105
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 3: the field. There was nothing else there. Put a groundline

1106
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 3: right in the middle of the field, so we can

1107
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: hunt it with the north wind, stay you know, south

1108
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: of the beans, be able to shoot it right in

1109
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: the middle and hope the deer put up with it. No,

1110
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: I'll never forget, you know, I had my doubts. I'm like,

1111
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 3: you know, I'm all for hunting in blinds and things

1112
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: like that, but like putting a groundline out in the

1113
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: middle of nothing, you know, snow, and going and hunting it.

1114
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: I said it one afternoon, we went and climbed in

1115
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: it the next day and man, we had that was

1116
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: the day that we saw stick or ten. Andy came

1117
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 3: out and fed at fifty yards and it was like, man,

1118
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: it worked and it didn't bother him. Now, I'm not

1119
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: saying that that'll work every time. And you know, I

1120
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 3: think it's there's something too when you set a blind

1121
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: like that. I think they honestly feel more comfortable if

1122
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 3: you put it right out in the middle of nothing

1123
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: and you're like or you try to half ass brush

1124
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: it into the woodline like they they feel like almost

1125
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: like you're hiding from them, you know, or like go ahead.

1126
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's funny you bring that up.

1127
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: I had the exact same scenario that time. I went

1128
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: and hunted with Town and there was a little food

1129
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: plot he had, but there was not a blind on

1130
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: it to hunt with specific winds. I was like, Hey,

1131
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go in there and put a

1132
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: pop up up. And so I was kind of describing

1133
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: to him, like you're asking him like, hey, you know,

1134
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: is there a fencer wrong along there where I'd be

1135
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: a you know, kind of brush myself in And he's like,

1136
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: oh no, don't brush yourself in. Put it right out

1137
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: in the open. Like, ah, that doesn't sound like a

1138
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: good idea of Tom. It's like, no, trust me, they're

1139
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: gonna be more weirded out by you kind of brushing

1140
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: it in than if you just stick it right out

1141
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: in the middle and they'll just assume it's kind of,

1142
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: you know, farmer stuff. And so that's what we did,

1143
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: and they, you know, all sorts of deer came out

1144
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: and weren't bothered by it at all. So that was

1145
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: a very interesting Like you said, I'm not sure that

1146
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: would work every time, but there certainly seems that there's

1147
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: something to it.

1148
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think, you know, as we get to the

1149
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: end of the season here, like if you have a

1150
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: tactic that you think you should try, man, you might

1151
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: as well try it because you're gonna run out of time.

1152
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: But I think the big thing is thinking outside the

1153
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 3: box when you think of what the food source is.

1154
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: Don't always necessarily focus on corn and beans obviously that

1155
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: they're the big ones or braskas or food plots whatever.

1156
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: But you know, if your dear aren't coming to there,

1157
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: try to figure out what they're doing. I mean, you're in,

1158
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 3: You're in your last ditch efforts, so you know, focus

1159
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 3: on that. We do have a little flurry of a

1160
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 3: second rout that comes in. You know, if you see

1161
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: any of that on your cameras, definitely getting get out there.

1162
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: But you know that it can be really hard late season,

1163
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: Like if you don't have a buck that that you

1164
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: think you can go after, you know, it's like, you know,

1165
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: must give up. And what I've done a lot of times,

1166
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 3: Like there's a streak a few years ago where I

1167
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: think it was like five years in a row I

1168
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: didn't shoot a buck, not that I didn't have opportunities,

1169
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: it was just like not the right one or something happened,

1170
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 3: And you know, it can get hard towards the end

1171
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 3: of the year and you're gonna eat another tag. I

1172
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 3: think late season is also a good time if you

1173
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: don't have a buck to go after a buck to shoot,

1174
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 3: like get excited about something, go shoot some dose or

1175
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 3: or something like that, Like you'd be amazed. Like I

1176
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 3: still get excited going to shoot dose. You know, if

1177
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 3: like I didn't have a buck to shoot, Like man,

1178
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: go out and get excited about you know, find what

1179
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 3: the does are doing and go shoot one and enjoy

1180
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: that with you know, the people you hunt with, or

1181
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 3: just for yourself. So you know, I think it's that's

1182
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 3: a lot of mindset. You know, towards the end of

1183
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: the year can get grueling, can be one of the

1184
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 3: best times, I think to get out there and hunt.

1185
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: If you have good weather, if you have a food

1186
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 3: source that that you know de you're going to can

1187
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: be one of the best times. But you know, it

1188
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: all just depends.

1189
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you on the dough thing.

1190
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: Like it seems like even even if I do have

1191
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: a buck tag in my pocket, if it gets to

1192
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: the last week or two of the season and there's

1193
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: not like an incredible reason to really really really focus

1194
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: on that buck, I'll usually just just shift to dough season, like, hey,

1195
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: it's time to just do some management and relax a

1196
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 2: little bit and have fun with it, Like go into

1197
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: it with a target rich environment. All of a sudden,

1198
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: it totally changes the way you feel when you go

1199
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: on that hunt. When you know, like man, I'm there's

1200
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: just a really good chance I'm gonna shoot a doe

1201
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: tonight probably, you know, invite the buddies out or take

1202
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: the take my son's out, like that is so much fun.

1203
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: I took my son out last night, and I've got

1204
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: a couple of friends coming up tonight to do the

1205
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: same thing, gonna mentor a new hunter tomorrow, like, and

1206
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: that's all so much easier when you're shifting to those

1207
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: doughs and and can just enjoy that. So it's a

1208
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: very good idea.

1209
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of excitement that occurs around that,

1210
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: you know, like even you know, for for guys that

1211
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: that's the thing to shoot big box. It's like when

1212
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: you go out and you know, like I'm going to

1213
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: shoot a dough, like you can't help but not get

1214
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: excited about.

1215
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I still get fired out. Yeah, something

1216
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm curious about back to kind of tactics when you're

1217
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: after and I guess this could be a buck or dough.

1218
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: But I've heard you and and Mike and JJ and

1219
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: those guys talk a lot about water throughout the year.

1220
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: Is that something that ever you think about in the

1221
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: late season. I mean, that's not something I typically would think,

1222
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: but I'm curious if that does fall within you guys,

1223
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: you know, set of tools.

1224
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I think water all year around it

1225
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: super crucial. I have seen over the years so much

1226
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: success over little water holes, and I think, you know,

1227
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: it's easy to understand why water works early season when

1228
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 3: it's hot and that kind of thing. Throughout the whole

1229
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 3: entire season. I think they just get better. Like during

1230
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: the rut, water holes are can be killer even now,

1231
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: Like deer still need to get water right and it

1232
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: becomes tougher for them. So if you think about it,

1233
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: like right now out there, it's as much as it's mild,

1234
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 3: like a lot of the water is frozen. So like

1235
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: if you have you know, brassicas, there's some of those,

1236
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: plus that those some of those plants hold some water,

1237
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: you'll find more deer on there. Water can be killer

1238
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: late season if you can find an open water source.

1239
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: That's the hard thing though, is most of the water

1240
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: sources are frozen. I do know some guys that will

1241
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: go in. It's like it's almost like they're duck hunt.

1242
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 3: You know, guys going in, they'll break ice and you know,

1243
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: little pockets and maybe ducks coming in land. But I

1244
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: know guys that will go out and try to break

1245
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 3: some ice. Now that's hard because a lot of it

1246
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: freezes back overnight. But if you can find an open

1247
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 3: water source late season this time of year, man, I

1248
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: think again, it's understanding what the deer need, like, they

1249
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: need water. So if you can find an open water

1250
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: source late season, heck, yeah on it.

1251
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah makes sense. Are there any other off the wall

1252
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: late season things you're trying or would try, or any

1253
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: other thing we haven't covered. That's like tape, one more

1254
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: thing they have in your back pocket.

1255
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a good question. I guess one

1256
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 3: of the things that you could try. And I am like,

1257
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 3: if you talk about talk about calling, I guess I

1258
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: am not a guy who does a lot of calling.

1259
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: I will call very minimally when I have to, but

1260
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: I don't do a lot of calling. I think there's

1261
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: a certain window, like pre rout where it can be

1262
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: game changing. But I am a guy that will do

1263
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 3: a little calling early season and even late season. Now,

1264
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: you have to be careful when you're calling like that

1265
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: late season because it's not like I'm going to go

1266
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: and bang horns together. But I do think, say you're

1267
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: hunting a food source that's close to bedding, right, and

1268
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: you know there's a buck in there potentially because they're

1269
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: not going very far, but he's not moving until just

1270
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: after dark. I would not be afraid to go in there,

1271
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: and as it's getting close to maybe like that last

1272
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: half hour, last fifteen minutes, you know, take the black record,

1273
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: take any kind of call, like rallying horns, and just

1274
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: tickle them together, because what you're doing is you're not

1275
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: challenging him. Well, all you want to do is convince

1276
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: that deer that hey, there is other deer out there

1277
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: in the food plot. He's laying there like he's going

1278
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: to get up. He's probably hungry. It's just when if

1279
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 3: you can convince him for even a second to get

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Speaker 3: up two minutes earlier and think, hey, there's deer out there,

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's creating this illusion that hey, I maybe

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: it's even convincing him a few minutes early. Not be careful.

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01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: It's just think about what you're seeing. That's when people

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01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 3: ask me, how do you call? It's like, well, I

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01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: call based on what I'm seeing out there, what are

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01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 3: the deer doing? And that's how I do it. That

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01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: time of year. But like you'll see little bucks out

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01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 3: there just kind of tickling around, messing around. Try it.

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Speaker 3: You know, at that point, if you can do anything

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Speaker 3: to get that deer up two three, one minute earlier

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: before you know, shooting light ends.

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Speaker 2: I hope you know, might help. Yeah. Yeah, that's a

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: great point. And I do think sometimes we discount how

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01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: important just that little bit of social confirmation matters to

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01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: a buck. Just enough, Hey there's a other deer out here,

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01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: and they're feeling safe. The coast is clear. If you're

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Speaker 2: hearing some bucks sparring, that means the coast is clear.

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01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: If you a little if you hear a little contact grunt,

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Speaker 2: you know, Okay, hey it's safe enough that there's a

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01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: couple other deer out there, Maybe I'm gonna start edging

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01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: my way. I mean, that's uh, that is important stuff. Yeah,

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01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: no doubt so, Brian. If my five year old son,

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01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: who is nuts about deer hunting, wanted to go on

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01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: YouTube tonight and watch one of your guys's YouTube videos

1305
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: there that you've produced for Deer Society, or really, I

1306
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: know you work on a whole bunch of things. Where

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: would you send us if you were going to send

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: us to one video that you've worked on or that

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01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: you are in that you think my five year old

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: will get a kick out of. Give me one recommendation

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01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: on that, and then and then give me the rest

1312
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: of the resume of things we can be looking for

1313
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: ways we can connect with you and your work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's that's a that's a really great question.

1315
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: You know, there's one that pops out, but I you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it it would resonate yet with

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: your five year old, it would resonate with you. There's

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: a film we did a few years back and it

1319
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: was called Love Dad, and it's on Deer set of

1320
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: YouTube channel, and it was a film based on the

1321
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: premise of me going on my first meal deer hunt

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: and it was an Alberta and but it wasn't about

1323
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: me shooting this deer. It was a letter to my son.

1324
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 3: So that's how the film progresses. So you know, it

1325
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 3: opens up with you know, me writing this letter and

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01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: it says to my son Barrett and at the time

1327
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 3: he was just born. That was here he's born, and

1328
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: it walks through this process of the hunt. But what

1329
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: hunting has taught me and how it's molded me as

1330
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: a person, and like the lessons I've learned and failures

1331
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,959
Speaker 3: and all of these different things. I'm pretty passionate about

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01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: that one just because I think it's well produced, but

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01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: it's it's really from the heart, you know, and and

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 3: it meant a lot to me. Now, my son's five

1335
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: and and took him turkey hunting for the first year

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: this year. And you know, I look at him when

1337
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 3: I was writing that letter. It is just a little baby.

1338
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: And now he's five years old and teaching him those traditions.

1339
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: So I think that's a pretty special one. So you

1340
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 3: could try to try to have them watched that one.

1341
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty cool. It's a good message there, and

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: and uh, I think I think maybe you'd enjoy watching

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 3: it with them, So that'd be the one that I recoon.

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01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: All right, that's the one. So so then plug everything else?

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: Where can we see the other videos? Where can we

1346
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: get the podcast? Anything else you want folks to know about.

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01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of our content, some of the

1348
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: film content, stuff you'll find on the Deer Study YouTube channel.

1349
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: A ton of stuff out there, really great hunting there, too,

1350
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: lots of different stuff, some some engaging off the wall stuff,

1351
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: so entertaining stuff there. Also host the Deer Study podcast

1352
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: that's obviously up there on the dear Stety YouTube channel

1353
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 3: as well. And then as far as other almond I stuff,

1354
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 3: you know, we produced Love the Grind TV which is

1355
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 3: on the Sportsman channel, do the post production for uh

1356
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 3: for being the Help with Thrick and Julie, and then

1357
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: do a lot of other films and and things across

1358
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: the board, working with just different brands and and and

1359
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 3: people within the hunting industry as well as outside of it.

1360
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 3: So kind of more of that stuff is all over

1361
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: the place. You can check out almond I Productions on

1362
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: Instagram and Facebook. We try to do a good job

1363
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: keeping up with that, don't always do the best, kind

1364
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: of get get lost on focusing on our clients there,

1365
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: but definitely gonna get get better at that. But yeah,

1366
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: so almond Ie Productions and stuff kind of all over awesome.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hey, you're doing good work, man. I'm enjoying it.

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate the effort and hard work you guys put

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01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: into it, and I'm glad that you had a heck

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Speaker 2: of a season. Congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate it very much. Again, I appreciate the

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01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: invote or invite to be on here, big fan, you

1373
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 3: guys do a great job. You do a great job

1374
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: and and really enjoyed the conversation.

1375
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: Thanks man, I appreciate it all right, And that's a wrap.

1376
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: Thank you all for listening, Thanks for being here. You

1377
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: know I say it every week, but I really do

1378
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: mean it. I appreciate you being a part of this community.

1379
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: It's been the privilege of my life to get to

1380
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: hear from you, to share these stories, to learn alongside

1381
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: of you on this journey. It's been I don't know

1382
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: fifteen plus years now for me and ten ish years

1383
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: on the podcast, and it's been a wild ride. So

1384
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: here's to another great year coming up. Hope we all

1385
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: have a wonderful Christmas, happy Holidays, have fun with your

1386
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: friends and family, get out there. I hope you get

1387
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: a chance to fill another tag or two before the

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Speaker 2: end of the year, and until then, stay wired to Hunt.