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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It is Monday,

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Speaker 1: December twenty second. The Ravens lost to the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots twenty eight to twenty four on Sunday. They are

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Speaker 1: now seven and eight on the season. Today we had

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Speaker 1: head coach John Harballs weekly Monday press conference.

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Speaker 2: Good seeing everybody appreciate you being here. Focus, had a

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Speaker 2: chance to look at everything and study it and talk

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Speaker 2: to all the coaches and see a few of the players.

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Speaker 2: And we have a short week, quick turnaround. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back in tomorrow with the players, so we'll have to

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Speaker 2: have our game plan ready tomorrow at least getting started

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Speaker 2: on it with the first and second down plan tomorrow

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Speaker 2: when we practice and beginning way for Saturday night for

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Speaker 2: a game that we will be all in to play

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Speaker 2: our best football, our most complete game of the season.

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Speaker 2: That'll be our goal and come out with a win.

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Speaker 2: What question do you have, John, Do.

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Speaker 3: You have anything any updates as far as.

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Speaker 4: Laur and his back.

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Speaker 2: Lamar has a back contusion, painful certainly saw him in

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Speaker 2: here getting treatment this morning and this afternoon early and

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Speaker 2: he'll be working. He's been classified as day to day

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Speaker 2: on that. Nothing beyond the contusion, but I don't want

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Speaker 2: to I don't want to minimize the severity in the

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Speaker 2: pain level of that because it's legit and that's where

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Speaker 2: it stands.

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Speaker 4: I don't talk.

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Speaker 5: About Derek Henry's usage in the last two possessions.

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Speaker 4: A sense of a rotation. It was a rotation that

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Speaker 4: Keith Mitchell at.

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Speaker 5: The time, who decides the rotation, and if not you,

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Speaker 5: why not say no, no, this is Derek Henry.

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Speaker 3: We need to have him in the game right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we have a rotation.

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Speaker 2: The rotation is Derek and Keaton are first and second downbacks,

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Speaker 2: and we came to that in the last few weeks

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Speaker 2: and made sure that on all those plays it was

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Speaker 2: one of those two guys that that obvious pass was

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Speaker 2: third down only for Rachiene, which I think he had

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Speaker 2: nine plays on and then the rotation was two to

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Speaker 2: one as far as start the series off, and depending

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Speaker 2: on how long the series goes, you know, Derek gets

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Speaker 2: four or five three, four, five runs and uh, then

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Speaker 2: he's ready, he needs a break, so Keaton comes in

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Speaker 2: or vice versa. The last series, Uh was a conversation

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Speaker 2: between Willie and Derek and they decided that Keaton was

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Speaker 2: going to start the series off as part of the rotation,

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Speaker 2: and then Derek was going to come in on that

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Speaker 2: in that series. If i'd looking back on it right now,

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Speaker 2: to your point, i'd have grabbed it and I said,

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Speaker 2: now I'll put Derek in the game, you know, But

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Speaker 2: that's not really the way it works in real time.

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Speaker 2: It's the guys doing the rotation, the coach doing the rotation,

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Speaker 2: and it's also the plays that are called. Certain plays

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Speaker 2: are set up for Keaton, and that opening play was

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Speaker 2: more of a Keaton play of the series. So I

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Speaker 2: think that had a lot to do with him starting

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Speaker 2: the series. Then the idea would bring to bring to

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Speaker 2: bring Derek in after.

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Speaker 4: A few plays.

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Speaker 2: I at least probably would have wanted him in after

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Speaker 2: we got the first down, you know, if i'd have

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Speaker 2: grabbed it, if i'd have seen it. But I'm also

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Speaker 2: looking at the play. The play that was set up

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Speaker 2: first down was a play action pass initially. That's that's

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Speaker 2: a sweep play that Keaton takes most of the time,

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna draw eyes and draw attention to the play,

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Speaker 2: And I can see why you'd want to put Keaton

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Speaker 2: out there in that play. So I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of layers to it. In game, things are moving

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Speaker 2: fast and that's the way it goes, and you look

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Speaker 2: back at it and you say, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I think there's logic going the other way

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Speaker 2: for sure, and you just put Derek out there for

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Speaker 2: whatever the play is and we'd all been happy with

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Speaker 2: that as well.

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Speaker 4: So that's how it went in real time.

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Speaker 5: Were you aware that Derek could not touch the ball

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Speaker 4: And how much conversation do you.

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Speaker 2: Have, Well, we're talking about six plays, so we're talking

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Speaker 2: about six plays that went back to back in a series.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to get the first down. So no, the

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Speaker 2: conversation is not really geared toward you know, who's going

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Speaker 2: based on the game plan, what the rotating coach decides

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Speaker 2: to do with the tag on the players, and who's

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Speaker 2: got that play, and there's reasons for allut there game plan.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not defending all that, and you heck, no,

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Speaker 2: you can pick plays or who goes in or when

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Speaker 2: they go in, but it's not just as simple as oh,

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Speaker 2: Derek Henry didn't play the whole fourth quarter, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was it was those plays back to back he

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Speaker 2: was going to go in. That was part of the plan,

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Speaker 2: and it was felt in making those decisions, guys running

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Speaker 2: on off the field as players are being called in

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Speaker 2: the rotation to go that direction. As I look back

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Speaker 2: on it, I'm like, sure, I see the point, but

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Speaker 2: I'm also not in the midst of saying, oh, oh,

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Speaker 2: in the game in that moment. So that's a reality too.

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Speaker 2: So just I'm not trying to make excuses for it,

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Speaker 2: but try to put it in perspective, you know, that's

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Speaker 5: Communication or maybe even an intervention with Todd saying hey

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Speaker 5: we need to get Jayrek go on the field or

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Speaker 5: got them more involved.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I just answered that.

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Speaker 2: And in that fast real time as those players were

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Speaker 2: going and those players were being called, and that player's

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Speaker 2: going on the field and he's on there for that

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Speaker 2: reason for that play, I'm thinking about the play going

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Speaker 2: and what our fourth down idea is going to be

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Speaker 2: if we get for one, two, three, four five yards

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Speaker 2: out or whatever it might be situationally, So there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of things you're thinking about and it's not necessarily always.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm gonna have to answer for Derek not

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Speaker 2: being on the field in this play later if it

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Speaker 2: doesn't work. You know, that's not what you're thinking in

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Speaker 2: real time. Just being honest.

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Speaker 6: Clarification, I know you're saying this a very speedy process.

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Speaker 6: So in the case, I'm like you said, you guys

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Speaker 6: did get the first down before it ended up putting

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Speaker 6: on a second to last drive. If you were to

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Speaker 6: say we want Dark to go in after this, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Of course I could. I could definitely. Absolutely. I've done

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Speaker 2: that before. I put players in. I've taken players out,

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Speaker 2: game when I see that stuff. Absolutely, But I also

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Speaker 2: I knew what the play call was and what there's

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Speaker 4: It was actually a check with me play.

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Speaker 2: I knew what it was, and I knew the idea

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Speaker 2: a fake toss sweep. That Keaton's been running pretty effectively,

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Speaker 2: and that they think he's an outside runner, and that

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Speaker 2: they're going to run to that play, and then the

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Speaker 2: defense itself, the look checks us out of the play.

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Speaker 4: So you know, there's a lot going on. There's a

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Speaker 4: lot of layers to it.

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Speaker 3: On a fundamental level, though, Isn't the thought, at least

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Speaker 3: for a lot of people, is Derek Henry was signed

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Speaker 3: to be in the game at that time, at the times.

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Speaker 7: Of these games.

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Speaker 4: I'm not arguing that. That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying, if I look back at it now,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have him out there. Absolutely, I'm not arguing

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Speaker 2: that at all on a fundamental level.

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Speaker 3: On the other side of the ball, and when we

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Speaker 3: talked to Kyle Hamilton after the game, he said, it

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Speaker 3: got to the point where we knew that Drake Man

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Speaker 3: was going to drop back and for almost every play,

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Speaker 3: and yet he's still able to propel him down the

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Speaker 3: field and those two touchdown rest When you look back

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Speaker 3: at it, why was he able to be that successful

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Speaker 2: He made a lot of good plays and we didn't

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Speaker 2: make the plays we need to make. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: had opportunities. You know, we had the ball in our

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Speaker 2: bat the ball down in a critical situation, We had

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Speaker 2: chances to sack him in the backfield. We got him.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we hit him. Sometimes sometimes we hit him. We

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Speaker 2: great catches. I mean, all the plays you saw in

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Speaker 2: and that's why it's what you saw transpire during the game,

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Speaker 2: and that's what happened.

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Speaker 6: Have you had a chance to talk with Mark about

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Speaker 6: that play where he kind of just ladders called, He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he made a mistake. He said it

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Speaker 2: wasn't wasn't smart play.

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Speaker 1: Then talked to Tyler Luke came up short on a

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Speaker 4: Was that just not a struck ball or what did

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Speaker 4: he say about that kid? Yeah, he didn't like his

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Speaker 2: I watched it this morning with him, and his timing

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Speaker 2: his footwork a little bit and ended up pushing it,

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Speaker 2: got under it a little bit and pushed it right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of rotation on it, and that's why I

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Speaker 2: came up short. He's definitely I'm certain he's capable of

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Speaker 2: making that kick, but it wasn't a good approach to

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Speaker 5: John, how serious is that where he's at the foot

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Speaker 5: injury And how did you think Hendry Jones played?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how serious. I don't think it's It's

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Speaker 2: got another day to day one. You know, we'll see

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Speaker 2: how it goes. I thought Emory played okay, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be plays that he's gonna want

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Speaker 2: back from a past protection standpoint, But he competed. He's tough,

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Speaker 2: he looked like a young player, but he looked like

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Speaker 2: a good, talented young player. So I was really happy

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Speaker 2: about that, you know. But there's nuances involved there that

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Speaker 2: that he's gonna want to keep improving on. But you

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Speaker 2: improve on those things by playing, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: And I believe he's got a great future.

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Speaker 5: John say, someone like you say, who's you know? You

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Speaker 5: want them to stay confident with the ball. Security issues

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Speaker 5: continue to.

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Speaker 8: Kind of linger with him, you know, as a young player,

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Speaker 8: and any kind of.

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Speaker 6: Coaching through that.

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Speaker 2: We had a conversation, uh during the game, you know

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Speaker 2: he was doing well. After the game happened with the

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Speaker 2: last player or two of the game. I haven't had

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Speaker 2: a chance to talk to him about it yet. I

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Speaker 2: didn't see him in the locker room with all the

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Speaker 2: media stuff going on. But I'll talk to him in

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Speaker 2: a sense, you know, just like like I did the

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Speaker 2: last time in the time before about trying to build

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Speaker 2: in you know, the the idea that you know, practice

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Speaker 2: The ball's right there. You know, it pops out of

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Speaker 2: I said, you know, Bait played really well and I

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Speaker 8: tradition matters.

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