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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of My Heart Brady. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is no. They call

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Paul Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you.

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. I have entered negotiations, as

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Speaker 1: you may know, with a sea which for the return

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Speaker 1: of my voice still a little bit low. But the

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Speaker 1: show must go on, and that's why we are bringing

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Speaker 1: you strange news. At the top of the week. We

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Speaker 1: are going to learn a little bit about drugs in Japan.

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Speaker 1: We're going to learn a out some mysterious deaths not

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Speaker 1: just in the Bahamas, but in South Africa. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about a guy you may have heard of

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Speaker 1: named John McAfee. Very interesting hamburger contest or burger contest

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Speaker 1: in general. A rocket hit the moon, but I I

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Speaker 1: don't know where we start. Oh, we also have to

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Speaker 1: talk about Maxwell, not the R and B singer Maxwell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I first started getting text about this for some reason,

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Speaker 1: was late at night. Uh, and I thought my friends

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Speaker 1: was sentenced to jail. Isn't Maxwell the one that had

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Speaker 1: the music video where he's like topless and now that's D'Angelo.

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Speaker 1: Always confused Maxwell and D'Angelo. Maxwell had kind of a

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Speaker 1: But D'Angelo the one with like the happy trail of

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Speaker 1: the gods that is the audi video. I think that ever,

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Speaker 1: he's got what he's got what Dan Harmon calls the

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Speaker 1: He's officially going to be our Maxwell now has never

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Speaker 1: Gillane Maxwell, we have discussed on this show multiple times,

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Speaker 1: giving you little updates here and there. The it's not

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Speaker 1: She was recently sentenced to twenty years at least, that

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Speaker 1: of Vanity Fair, was posted yesterday. As we record this

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Speaker 1: from this Vanity Fair article written by Dan Adler in

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Speaker 1: late December, after a three week trial of federal jury

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Speaker 1: of course, Jeffrey Epstein, who uh didn't kill himself, was

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Speaker 1: in and checking checking all the additives and checking the

429
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: machinery that's producing the product. That's right, It's absolutely right.

430
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: Vice makes the same point, um, just in terms of,

431
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: like you know, when this stuff goes unregulated, like with moonshine,

432
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: you have no way of quite measuring the potency of it. Uh.

433
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: And if you buy some of this stuff forever, take

434
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: a look at it, if you ever your local tobacco shop,

435
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Take take a look at the labels on

436
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: the back. You're gonna see about the vaguas language you've

437
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: ever seen in your life, as far as what's actually

438
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: in the stuff, or how many grams or whatever it

439
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: is you should even partake of to get the expected results.

440
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: So it is it is very much a legal gray

441
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: area that can result in some pretty dangerous after effects. Yeah. Man,

442
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: oh you guys, it just made me think of another

443
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: story I saw. I think this is just worth bringing

444
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 1: to everybody's attend And have you guys ever heard of

445
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: cloned trucks? Are you guys aware of this phenomena or

446
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: this practice? I have not. Okay, well I I didn't

447
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: know about this, So you imagine the eighteen wheelers that

448
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: you see go by if you're ever on the road.

449
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: There's a ton of them, a lot of them. You know,

450
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: it's private companies, right, it's private companies. A lot of

451
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: them are fleets of vehicles. So there are hundreds of

452
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: the same looking vehicle and it's a truck that carries

453
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: whatever it is carrying for that company. Right. I think

454
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: about like Target and Walmart, um any grocery store where

455
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: there's shipments. Yeah, oh yeah, UPS just where there's constantly

456
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: shipping going all over the place, even Iron Mountain, Right,

457
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: that's got to these huge trucks. So something that certain

458
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: organized drug operations have been doing recently and apparently for

459
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: a long time. I just never knew about it. They've

460
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: been cloning these corporations vehicles. So a UPS truck, Like,

461
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: they get a truck they painted exactly like a UPS truck.

462
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: They make all the decals look exactly the way it should.

463
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: The only thing that's different is they don't have very

464
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: specific serial numbers attached to that vehicle or associated with

465
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: that vehicle, right, So they're cloning it and look only

466
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: and feel It's not like if they actually got scanned

467
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: or went to a way station or something that their

468
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: credentials would come back clean. Right, right, they have some

469
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: of the same I know this. Um, they have some

470
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: of the same identifying numbers that the d o T

471
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: Department of Transportation would use. But that's enough to maybe

472
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: pass an eye check from law enforcement, but probably not

473
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: enough and they get pulled over and and nottt I

474
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: was trying to I was having in deja vu moment.

475
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember why I was thinking of this.

476
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: It's it's because they're not just uh used by cartels

477
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: to run drugs or guns. They're used for human trafficking.

478
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: And this came to a story head in San Antonio, uh,

479
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: just two days ago as we record. Yep, Well, are

480
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: you talking about the one where they were forty or

481
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: more people found inside? So we're talking at least horrible

482
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: story scene. Yeah. Yeah, that's a whole that's the whole

483
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: thing on its own that it's maybe worth a longer

484
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: discussion about. I'm only bringing this up because there was

485
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: an h g B truck that was recently found. H

486
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: g B A is a supermarket chain. Uh. It was

487
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: discovered it looked just like an HB truck and inside

488
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: of it there were four thousand, four hundred pounds of

489
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: marijuana inside this truck. It rather than you know, the

490
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: thing it was supposed to be carrying, and it looked

491
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: exactly like an HGB supermarket truck. So when the authorities

492
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 1: pulled it over, they contacted hib corporate and we're like, hey, y'all,

493
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: you've running drugs now, And they're like, wait a second, no,

494
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: let's check our records. Absolutely no herds of that vehicle

495
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: in their fleet whatsoever. It had been cloned by somebody

496
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: running a whole bunch of drugs. You know what this

497
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: reminds me of, tangentially, is something that I had not

498
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: heard about until the pandemic, something called ghost kitchens. A

499
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: lot of people are ordering food online and you would

500
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: order from you know, uh, the the Octopus Saloon or

501
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, Badger Badger Bills Bistro or whatever, and it

502
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: would turn out that they were all just like the

503
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: same five people who were who are almost just using

504
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: their kitchen to clone out different brand names and see

505
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: what's sold. So that's a little bit less scory, But

506
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: it's easy to fake appearances, is the point. Yeah, No,

507
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: for sure, this is I'm glad you brought up the

508
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: ghost kitchen thing. I can't remember. We've talked about this,

509
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: Mr Mr Beastburger. Yes, you know where I was going

510
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: with that. If you look on their website for this

511
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: that you two guys got this like burger franchise. He's

512
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: got like a thousand location. No, I know, we talked

513
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: about it. We talked. We all hang out at David

514
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Busters and we were looking at the Mr. Beast Burger

515
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: website and they're like, how are there like hundreds of locations?

516
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: And we just started hearing about this yesterday. And it's

517
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: because almost every single one of them's ghost kitchen. So

518
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: something to chew on or drive around the block as

519
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: it were in a future episode perhaps by the way,

520
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: that's Mr beast Burgers are not good. Tried it overpriced,

521
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: not a good burger. But um, yeah, well that was cool.

522
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: We kind of went through a couple of different areas

523
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: in that story, uh to end up here at this

524
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: break that we're going to take and then return with

525
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: another piece of strange news. And we have returned. There

526
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: are actually a couple of pieces of strange news here

527
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: that I wanted to hit on, one quite glory one

528
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: being a mystery, and the one one being a bit

529
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: of a bit of a gallows humor laugh for us perhaps.

530
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: So first let's start in South Africa. Just a few

531
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: days before we recorded, there were about there are a

532
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: bunch of teenagers that we're partying because school was out,

533
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: they had passed their exams and they were under age.

534
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Twenty one of them died in a mysterious incident at

535
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: a nightclub. That's what it was originally billed as. Uh,

536
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: this idea of mysterious circumstances. And you know, like we

537
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: established earlier in the Strange News segment, one of the

538
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: things that at least I like to do whenever there

539
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: are mysterious circumstances of multiple deaths is to keep an

540
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: eye on it, you know, and start start hitting the

541
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: digital beat and see whether they are going to be

542
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: updates that shed some light on the mystery. Because times

543
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: out of a hundred there are updates. Um. So these

544
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: kids just who understand, we're not necessarily drinking illegally. They

545
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: were partying at something called Indio ben a tavern. This

546
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: is a pretty common thing. It's called a township tavern.

547
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: They're often known as shabbines, S H, E, B E

548
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: and S. And there right next to family housing, or

549
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: they might even be in a family house. And while

550
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: drinking is permitted for people over eighteen in these in

551
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: these establishments, those drinking laws aren't always enforced. And I'm

552
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: sure a lot of our fellow conspiracy realists from maybe

553
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: small towns throughout the world also know that those laws

554
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: get bent pretty easily. Right if you're if your parents

555
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: are the regulars who are there all the time, then

556
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: eventually someone's like whatever, he's you know, he or she

557
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: or there is fifteen or let him, let him have

558
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: a good Friday. Um. So, this was tragic because there

559
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: were no visible open wounds and investigators were stumped. They

560
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: came in and said that there were bodies strewn across tables,

561
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: chairs on the floor, there were no obvious signs of injury,

562
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: and the luckily, although the investigation is ongoing, luckily forensic

563
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: pathologists have made a couple of headways. But there kind

564
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: of disturbing. One of the survivors said she was overcome

565
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: by a strong smell at the venue, said there was

566
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: some sort of spray in the air. She thought it

567
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: was pepper spray. This is perer. CBS News, which reported

568
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: on the story and while the incident is ongoing. These

569
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: pathologists believe that the teens quote consumed something that led

570
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: to their deaths based on the initial autopsy. So could

571
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: someone have poisoned the beers or poisoned the hookahs water

572
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: pipes that were smoking um. Somehow these kids caught caught

573
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: the vibe that something was off. It sounds like more

574
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: than one of them smelled something in the air and

575
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: they tried to leave while shouting please let us through.

576
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: We're dying or people who can't breathe. But I'm gonna

577
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: stop there before we go to the next to the

578
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: next story, because this is um an ongoing investigation. But

579
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: what have you guys heard of something similar like this before?

580
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: I have not. I've heard of like the youth clubs

581
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: right that usually don't sell any alcohol whatsoever, no matter

582
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: how old you are. But it's like a place, right,

583
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it in a residential neighborhood like that,

584
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: like you know, one of the houses on a block

585
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: or something. But I know that's becoming a popular thing,

586
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: at least here in the US. It makes me think

587
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: about the Bahamas story ben the carbon monoxide poisoning where

588
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: you're an enclosed space where there's one opening maybe at

589
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: the end where people are coming and going, and then

590
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: the interior begins to fill with carbon monoxide and nobody

591
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: can tell because the way the way that CBS article

592
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: describes people just kind of getting tired and then laying

593
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: down on a couch to go to sleep or dancing

594
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: and then just collapsing. Right, It's almost like people are

595
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: just completely unaware and then they're overtaken. Mm hmm. Yeah.

596
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: And and this one of the reasons for bringing this

597
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: story to the air is we also want to hear

598
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: from you, fellow conspiracy realist, especially if you live in

599
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: South Africa, if you spend time there, Uh, tell us

600
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: what you think the possible causes maybe, and we will

601
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: return to update when and if the investigators make any

602
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: official conclusions. With that. We're moving on to something that

603
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: I think fascinated all of us quite recently in a

604
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: in a in a hilarious way. I want to shout

605
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: out Jamie Johnson over at the Telegraph who says, mystery

606
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: rocket crashes into the moon and no one on Earth

607
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: is owning up. So here's what happened. Someone at NASA

608
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: found that a rocket crashed into the moon and made

609
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: a very interesting double crater. And you can see this

610
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: in that Telegraph article and numerous other articles. And the

611
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: scientists are baffled immediately by two things. First, why is

612
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: there a double crater? That's kind of a tongue twister

613
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: to double crater? Double crater anyway? Uh? Yeah? And then second,

614
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: who the hell is doing this? Who's out here shooting

615
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: at the moon? Uh? It looks like it was traveling

616
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: about three point three miles per second when it crashed

617
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: on March four. That's when they're pretty sure it hit.

618
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: But they've never seen anything like this kind of double

619
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: crater before. They said, typically, uh, spent rocket rocket that's

620
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: had its glory days. You know, it has its masks

621
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: concentrated in the what they call the motor end, and

622
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the rocket body is like an empty

623
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: fuel tank because it takes a lot of energy to

624
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: be a rocket. So they're thinking, maybe this double crater

625
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: can help us learn more about the rocket, which can

626
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: tell us more about about how this mystery thing ended

627
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: up here. Uh, before we find the likely culprit, I

628
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: do want to pause just to talk some trash about

629
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: humanity very quickly. Is everybody down for that? Interesting. Sure cool, Matt,

630
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: I like the you're cautious. What's he gonna say? Um,

631
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing, And I think we can all agree

632
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: with this. If you are an extra inrestrial traveling to uh,

633
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: the little human corner of the universe, the Solar System,

634
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: then one of the first things you're gonna think is, God,

635
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: these people are trashy. We've got junk everywhere. The Moon

636
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: is littered with crap in humans defense. Sometimes it's very

637
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: difficult to get that stuff back, but humanity has also

638
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: surrounded the planet with stuff. Human beings are the cosmic

639
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: version of stereotypical rednecks with a bunch of refrigerators and

640
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: old chevis, just slowly turning into part of the landscape.

641
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: And Uh, to me, it's not surprising that they would say, Hey,

642
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: there's a mystery rocket. Where did they come from? To me,

643
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: it's surprising that they're still able to pick that out

644
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: amid all the other garbage that's it. Is that unfair?

645
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: It's not unfair. It's not unfair. I do want to

646
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: explore this more. This is a very strange guys. Uh,

647
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: the double crater, because if you imagine it, it does

648
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: have to be two separate it has to be two

649
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: separate impacts, right, because even if it was a very

650
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: long thing, it such a high force impact that somehow

651
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: just rocked the Moon. Two craters. What I don't know, Like,

652
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, the the Telegraph article you're mentioning here

653
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: been as a really nice little comparison of Apollo mission

654
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: craters like craters as the Lunar Landers descend and then

655
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: finally make contact, And there are some striking similarities there

656
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: on the edge. If you look at the if you're

657
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: looking at the mystery crater on the kind of the

658
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: north east and south edges, it looks as though material

659
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: was blown that way, that specific way, at least according

660
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: to my eye, to this very low resim it. And

661
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: then you look at the Apollo ones and it's the

662
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: force from the Apollo landers was going straight down, essentially

663
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: a rocket booster helping them land, right, So it's blowing

664
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: material in all directions, all cardinal directions. This one radius yeah,

665
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And this one is how would you describe

666
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: this being different? It appears that there's only material blown

667
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: kind of in the an arcing kind of an arc

668
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: I would say northeast to southeast. Really at least from

669
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: the from the way the image is situated on this

670
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: on this article, so it doesn't look like a landing, right.

671
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: So my mind went to maybe it was like a

672
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: lunar landing, like somebody sent something up there and tried

673
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: to land, and it just looks a little different because

674
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: it landed near another crater. But then I remember, oh, wait,

675
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: humans look at the Moon every day, all day, all

676
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: night and take pictures, and they would know if it

677
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: was an old crater and a new crater. And it

678
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: is two new craters. Right. You can even get some

679
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: some pretty stunning photos of the lunar surface from a

680
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: pro sumer telescope these days. Um. I I also a

681
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: mystified by this note. I know a lot of people

682
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: are going to write to us, um and they might say, look,

683
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: Earth is way more polluted than the Moon. Yes, that's true.

684
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: Given the surface area of the Moon, it is pretty

685
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: much pristine compared to the planet humans live on. I'm

686
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: just saying it might not be that way for long.

687
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: It's still impressive to be able to look at these

688
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: creators and start to ask these questions. UM. I want

689
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: to give a yeah, Ben, Yes, didn't didn't trying to

690
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: impact the Moon a while back with some debris and

691
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: it was the ring. What was it testing the vibration

692
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: or the ring or something like that, like the partially

693
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: hollow nature of the Moon that was being tested. Wasn't

694
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: there something about I know in twenty nineteen Israel crashed

695
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: a spacecraft on the lunar surface that scattered a lot

696
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: of debris um, but maybe it's where they were trying

697
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: to land a lunar rover in fourteen or so. Maybe

698
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: I just remember something about the moon right, like the

699
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: moon rang or there was some there was some strange

700
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: anomalous readings from the Moon after an impact, and that

701
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: was specific The impact was specifically testing something to that effect,

702
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: what happens when you impact the Moon at such velocity

703
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: with such mass. But anyway, I was just thinking with this,

704
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: if you had to if you had two projectiles that

705
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: were going just offset from one another, and you had

706
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: one impact and then another one designed to impact on

707
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: almost a resonance, you know, does that make sense? No?

708
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Like if it was like the first impact created this

709
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: wave and then the second one. I was getting Yeah, precisely,

710
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: like like something about you know, the trajectory of the

711
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: hit that caused some sort of sonic you know, anomaly

712
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: that caused the second creator to be to be created,

713
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: like the first one of the actual physical impact, the

714
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: second one some kind of shock wave of related you know. Interesting. Yeah,

715
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: I think that would be a good way to case

716
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: test in that in that situation. Now. Um, the experts

717
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: who are guessing about this now have not speculated in

718
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: that regard yet. Um No, I wouldn't be surprised if

719
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: they were doing it, you know, backstage with each other.

720
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: But China's name has come up. I want to give

721
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: a shout out to an astronomer named Bill Gray. Bill

722
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: is an independent astronomer and he has on his own

723
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: created software that helps track objects in space. Very impressive stuff,

724
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: and according to his analysis, China is involved. He thinks

725
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people first thought this was SpaceX, but

726
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Bill Gray thinks that this maybe a mark left from

727
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: a Chinese lunar mission in which we mentioned briefly back

728
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: in the day, the chong E five t This is

729
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: interesting or the chong E five T one. I believe

730
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: this is interesting because the Changy like the five t ones,

731
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: let's just call them, that there were these experimental robotic

732
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: spacecraft that were meant to be dry runs on atmospheric reentry,

733
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: so eventually they would lead to getting human astronauts or

734
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: living organisms out to space and then safely back. It

735
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: was named after a Moon goddess, by the way, pretty

736
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: cool stuff. Um, But they maintained that their boosters, the

737
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: rocket boosters they used, had just entered the Earth's atmosphere

738
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: but then incinerated upon entry because it's really tough to

739
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: get back in. Makes sense, yeah, but Bill doesn't believe it.

740
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: He went back and he did the math hashtag. They

741
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: did the math, and he also pointed out, you know,

742
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: China announces and televises its launches, but it doesn't go

743
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: public with the roots. And this led him to say,

744
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: I am sure whatever made this double Creator is the

745
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: China five T i uh and not a Space X booster.

746
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: So you can look at booster impacts just like you

747
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: described matt Um with forty meters for scale, and you

748
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: can see Apollo fifteen, Apollo seventeen. You can see this

749
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: mystery creator. And it was an opportunity for us to

750
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: learn more about what's happening on the Moon's surface. Things

751
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: are going to heat up in the Moon pretty soon. Japan,

752
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: South Korea, India, Russia. People want to get in the game, right, Um,

753
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: But no other rocket to this day that we know of,

754
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: has created these double craters. So, to steal the line

755
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: from Tom Waits that I love so much, what are

756
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: they building up there? You know what I mean? I

757
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: can't wait to see. I can't wait to see. I

758
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: hope the moon is not a junkyard by the time

759
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: the three of us can afford to go visit it.

760
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: I think we're good, okay, And you think we're good okay,

761
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: Well I will. I will send you guys pictures when

762
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I did stop there on the way further into the ink.

763
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: I would love to hear, especially from physicists in the

764
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: crowd and people familiar with aeronautics, what your guesses are

765
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: regarding the lunar surface. And just as importantly, we promised

766
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: you that we would end on a lighter note. Want

767
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: to shout out I want to shout out the Washington Examiner.

768
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: Want to shout out Vegan economists and New York Post

769
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: who revealed to me. I don't know if you guys

770
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: had seen this. I think Matt you mentioned you might

771
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: have heard something about this. UM revealed to me earlier

772
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: this week that a vegan burger has won a somewhat

773
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: prestigious award. Uh and it has one not because it's

774
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: vegan or not just because it's vegan, but because it

775
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: is a specially produced kind of one off product of

776
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: a Swedish vegetarian food brand named and it is human

777
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: flesh flavored. This is a real thing. It's not like hoofou,

778
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: it's not like from years back. But how do they?

779
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: I mean really, how are they? What's there? What's their

780
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: control here? How they tastes like a human rights not

781
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: clever marketing to me? I mean, are people really donating

782
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: their bodies to like food science? Like? I don't know.

783
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: That just doesn't seem people. Are people in the boardroom

784
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: like eating their fingernails and saying okay, okay, that's kind

785
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: of cannibalism I can get behind. Are they drinking their

786
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: own blood? Yeah? How do you? How do you break

787
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: it down? I I honestly think it's kind of a

788
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: PR stunt. I don't think they play. Yeah, I don't

789
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: think they plan to sell these throughout you know, at

790
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: burger joints throughout Sweden or Europe. No, it was a

791
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: PR stunt from in October. It was only able for

792
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: one day. Yeah, and what they wanted can was an activation,

793
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: a brand activation award, I know, job way to activate. Um.

794
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it does make me think of though,

795
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: is there's a really cool David Chang cooking future kind

796
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: of show that is called The Next Thing You Eat,

797
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, The Next Thing He Eats a David

798
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: Chang show and there's an episode on the future of

799
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: meat and it goes into you know, factory farming, a

800
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: lot of things that we've talked about on the show.

801
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: But then it's the first time I've ever really seen, um,

802
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: what one of these meat labs look like. Which it's

803
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: a fun thing to say in don't of itself meat

804
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: a meat lab, but um, you know it's it's a

805
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: way of making the protein you know, from themselves. So

806
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: it's sort of like cloning. I didn't fully quite understand it,

807
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: but there is a way to you know, make essentially

808
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: grow meat in a lab that is meat. It's not

809
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: a copy or like you know, an analog to meet.

810
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: It is the real deal. And Chang, you know, we

811
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: saw it in in the in the frame and he

812
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: ate it and he was blown away. UM, but I

813
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: wonder if there's obviously if you had the protein from

814
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: human uh, you could probably do the same thing. And

815
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: the question there becomes is that okay to do? What

816
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: if you know there's a niche market for people that

817
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: maybe want to eat human flesh and if no one's

818
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: getting hurt, Well, what's the what's the problem? Is it

819
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: just a taboo? Well let me take it in a

820
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: darker direction, because this is an important question. The same

821
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: kind of um parameters of debate could be declared about

822
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: someone saying, and this is I'm trying to put this

823
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: in the least crass way possible, someone saying, what if

824
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: UM for sexual satisfaction, I just want to grow a

825
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: body like specific sexual organs and just have them in

826
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: like a thing of flesh and there is no brain, right,

827
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: there is nothing more than a just the systems needed

828
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: to make that thing run. Is that then abuse of

829
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: that because it would technically um be part human? Or

830
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: what would what would religious authorities say? What would scientific

831
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: experts say? Long time listeners know I've been diving into

832
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: the cultivated meat thing for years, like back when I

833
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: was doing the stuff they wants you to vlog Matt

834
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: night Like talked about the videos and stuff. Um, the

835
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: cultivated meat scaffolding I think is different, but it does

836
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: lead to some of the same problems that we would

837
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: have as a society when we say, okay, Oregon trade

838
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: is difficult and dangerous for people. What if we just

839
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: grow bodies without brains and everyone has a second body

840
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: for spare parts, just like how you had to buy

841
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: to Harley Davidson's in the nineteen seventies. I mean that's yeah,

842
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: one and the other for parts. Yeah, I have, I have.

843
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I used to have. Member. I used to have two

844
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: of these Roland synthesizers Juno, one of six synthesizers, and

845
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: I did just that between parts from the two, I

846
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: made one working one, and then I took the second

847
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: one that was sort of lacking parts and gave it

848
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: to somebody who found the parts for it and got

849
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: it working too. But um, I'm into that, right. But

850
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: obviously would be just the super wealthy they would be

851
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: able to do that. At first. It would be a

852
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: very rare luxury I think, I mean a luxury what's

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Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for, you know, just uh kind

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Speaker 1: of safety. It would be opulent. Yeah, Well, I mean,

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: so was ice back in the day, right Exactly, you

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00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: either lived in a really cold place or you were

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Speaker 1: pretty wealthy. And now, um, many many people throughout the

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Speaker 1: world still, you know, still struggle with ice, But then

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Speaker 1: there are a lot more who don't consider themselves very

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Speaker 1: well to do at all. Or just like, it sucks

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Speaker 1: that I have to use an ice train, why don't

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00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: I have a refrigerator that just makes ice in the

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00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: door for me? Technology moves really quickly. Um. And while

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: a human flavored plant based burger is definitely a pr stunt,

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Speaker 1: I do think it takes our conversation in a fascinating direction.

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00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: What is the carnivorous future? Right? Like? How how far

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00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: away are we from from non lab meat being? Like

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Speaker 1: you you described being this opulent, luxurious thing for the

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Speaker 1: well to do. Like I had a steak from a cow.

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Speaker 1: It was for our fiftieth anniversary. It cost more than

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Speaker 1: the Camaro, but it was worth it. Jeez, you can image. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna show budget because I don't think

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Speaker 1: I have any like clone storage space here in the house. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'd really have to expand if I was going to

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Speaker 1: put you know, some kind of refrigeration for a whole

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Speaker 1: cloned body of mine. Well you might you might not

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Speaker 1: have to refrigerate them. You know, you could just have

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Speaker 1: the the blood circulating and just kind of leave them there.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, how do you do how do you

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Speaker 1: get organs like the eyes and the you know, the

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Speaker 1: ears without also growing a brain? Right, because nobody wants

882
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: to learn that they're the clone for parts. That's a bummer.

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Speaker 1: The island, that's the to be the island. Spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: that's like a big that's a big twist. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: still gonna watch it, and thank you everybody for tuning

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Speaker 1: in as always, and thanks for thanks for putting up

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