WEBVTT - Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania

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<v Speaker 1>for Aunt Man and the Wasp, Quantumnia, What is this

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<v Speaker 1>a realm for ants? Hello, my name is Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Kntepkion and I'm Raisy Night and welcome to x ray Vision,

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<v Speaker 2>the Crooked Media podcasts where we dive deep all the

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<v Speaker 2>way down to sub atomic size to the quantum realms,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 3>In this episode, we are going to be riding on

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<v Speaker 3>the back of giant ants to excavate.

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<v Speaker 1>The giant sub atomic air.

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<v Speaker 3>They're giant in the sub atomic realm. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't see them if they were in real life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but we will be on them and we will be

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<v Speaker 3>riding them into the airlock where we will talk about

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<v Speaker 3>Amman and the West Quantumania with spoiler free reaction first

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<v Speaker 3>and then a lot of spoilers. So if you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen it, go see it in ned doubt a theory

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<v Speaker 3>from listen to Grant about the location of he who

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<v Speaker 3>remains leir. This is very good. I've actually gone a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of dms with people who think about this, so Grant,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to hear it. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>jump around, check the show notes for timestamps. Sorry if

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<v Speaker 3>they're a little bit off. We're dealing with some ad

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<v Speaker 3>insert issues, but we are trying our best.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Coming up next to your lock, we're stepping

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<v Speaker 1>out of the air lock and into the quantum realm

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<v Speaker 1>for ant Man and the Wasp quantum Mania. First up,

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<v Speaker 1>our non spoiler reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very fun movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a wild sci fi romp through the quantum realm.

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<v Speaker 3>And just the unbelievable performance from Jonathan Mage's like it

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<v Speaker 3>will blow you away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's really for me. The headline is if

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<v Speaker 1>there is an actor other than Angela Bassett who could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially one day be nominated for an Oscar off of

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<v Speaker 1>a Marvel movie. I think it's Jonathan No, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the most watchable person that's ever been in there.

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<v Speaker 3>It blows your mind and it is this emotionally driven, intense,

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<v Speaker 3>scary kind. I mean, look, we know you know this.

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<v Speaker 3>He's carrying the Conqueror. You've heard him talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a heroic portrayal. But I will tell

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<v Speaker 3>you the whole way through the movie, I was just

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<v Speaker 3>rooting for He is so human and incredible and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of fun. It's a tonal shift from

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<v Speaker 3>the other anti Man movies, but you still get pops

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<v Speaker 3>of that humor and that kind of low stakes and

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<v Speaker 3>if you love poppy sci fi, weird creatures, Star Wars, Cantina,

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of good stuff, you're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes and again, Kang Kan Kang Kan Kang Kang. He

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<v Speaker 1>has none of the major just has an ability to

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<v Speaker 1>make you watch him when he's delivering anyone doing anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gives his portrayal of Kang a real layer

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<v Speaker 1>of like menace, because you there's there's points in this

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<v Speaker 1>film where you're like, I know he's the bad guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to believe everything he said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want to believe him because he just puts

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<v Speaker 3>himself across in such a sincere, interesting way. But the

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<v Speaker 3>movie's not afraid of showing you who Kang really is,

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<v Speaker 3>or who this iteration of Kang really is. His chemistry

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<v Speaker 3>with Michelle Pfeiffer is incredible. She's so great as Janet.

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<v Speaker 3>We get more Granet hair, which was something that we'd

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<v Speaker 3>both wanted. Really fun movie for Hank Pim. If you

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<v Speaker 3>were listening to our podcast last week and you were like,

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't got enough Hank in that Map movies, guess

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<v Speaker 3>what this is. You're gonna be You're gonna be charmed.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna get so much Hank.

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<v Speaker 1>That is our quick reaction non spoiler reaction to ant

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<v Speaker 1>Man in the Lost Pontumania Up next.

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<v Speaker 3>Spoilers.

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<v Speaker 1>The spoilers, folks. The spoiler phil recap, So go no

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<v Speaker 1>further if you have not watched the film Okay and

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<v Speaker 1>Men in the Lost Quantumenian directed by Peyton Reed, written

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<v Speaker 1>by Jeff Lovenes, Paul Rudd as our friend Scott Lang

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<v Speaker 1>of Angeline Lily as back as the Wasp, Jonathan Major's

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<v Speaker 1>King the Conqueror, Michelle Pfeiffer's back as Janet Vandyne, Michael Douglas,

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<v Speaker 1>Hank Pim, and Catherine Newton as our third and final

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie Lang. Mm hmmm, let's jump into our recap. So

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<v Speaker 1>we opened in the quantum realm. This is a flashback

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<v Speaker 1>to the time when Janet was trapped. Time works differently

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<v Speaker 1>down there, so we have no idea how long she's

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<v Speaker 1>been there or what is happening. But she sees a

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<v Speaker 1>ship enter the realm and crash. She goes over to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate and is attacked by some sort of alien creature

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<v Speaker 1>that then splits into two alien creatures that then splits

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<v Speaker 1>into four, and she takes them out, but one gets

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<v Speaker 1>the drop on her and it's blasted off of her

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<v Speaker 1>who saved her life, but Kang and he's like, where

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<v Speaker 1>the hell are we? We go back to the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the above world, where Scott Line has basically been enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>his life as a celebrity superhero who saved the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only did he save the world, he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book about it, and he's happy to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anywhere and everywhere that people want to thank him and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. We see him walking down the street

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. Everybody's like, Scott, Oh my god, Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. He walks into his favorite coffee shop where

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<v Speaker 1>he gets stuff for free. He goes to bask and

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<v Speaker 1>Robbins that were he was once fired, but now is treated.

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<v Speaker 3>As employee of the Century.

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<v Speaker 1>Employee of the century. People absolutely love him. We learn

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<v Speaker 1>that Scott's daughter, Cassie is It's not that she's not

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<v Speaker 1>doing great, it's more that she has very very strong

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<v Speaker 1>ideals about helping people who are who have been wronged

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe who don't have the power to help themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and this has led to her being arrested, so Scott

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<v Speaker 1>and Hope have to go bail her out. And we

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<v Speaker 1>also learned that Cassie has a little bit has a

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<v Speaker 1>suit of her own, and she's been using it, probably

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<v Speaker 1>irresponsibly because she's a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she shrunk a car at a protest and Scott's

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<v Speaker 3>less than happy with it. Hope seems like vaguely proud,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can tell Cassie's mad that Scott is no

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<v Speaker 3>longer an active here, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't you doing more heroic shit the world needs.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, you literally saved the world, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean that there's nothing else left to do. She was

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<v Speaker 3>at a protest to stop them sweeping homeless encampments. She

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<v Speaker 3>is really the person here who's going to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>have this moral arc to go on as the film

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<v Speaker 3>goes forward.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a family dinner, Cassie and Hank dropped the

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big news that they've been building a device that

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<v Speaker 1>will allow communication in the form of mapping.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of the quantum realm.

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<v Speaker 1>Janet is like, you got to shut it down? Why, Janet, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about it. Here's where I

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<v Speaker 1>want to stop and say, Janet, you gotta just come

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<v Speaker 1>clean about some stuff that happened in the Utu realm.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely she needed to be more honest to them, but

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<v Speaker 3>I also feel like the whole family is just constantly

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<v Speaker 3>fucking around with the cortum room. And she's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>was stuck there for thirty years. It was very traumatic,

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<v Speaker 3>Like give me a break. And they're like, well, if

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<v Speaker 3>we just built this device that would take us to

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<v Speaker 3>the quantum room in all basement without you knowing, And

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, I'd rather you didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Janet tells them to shut it down, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>way too late and they're all sucked into the device

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<v Speaker 1>and they fall into the Quanta room. Hank, Janet, and

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<v Speaker 1>Hope are separated from Scott and Cassie, and Janet leads

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<v Speaker 1>the Pims to an old friend named Crylar played by

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray, who apparently was once a freedom fighter in

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<v Speaker 1>what we are soon to learn is this land that

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<v Speaker 1>is in the midst of trying to throw off the

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<v Speaker 1>yoke of a dictator. Well, this guy, Krylar, who used

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<v Speaker 1>to fight alongside Janet, has sold out and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a rich guy. They have a meeting with him

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<v Speaker 1>about trying to reunite with Scott and Cassie, and he says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who they are, where they are, but unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>I have to hand you over to King. But before

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<v Speaker 1>that can happen, the trio escape and Hope through an

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<v Speaker 1>embigoting Pim particle disc at the cocktail squid like creature

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<v Speaker 1>that was a delicacy that you drink in very horrific fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>makes it grow into a large size squid that then

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<v Speaker 1>takes revenge on Krylar Meanwhile, over at Cassie and Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>they let find themselves in the midst of a group

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<v Speaker 1>of freedom fighters, including a guy named quaz Ye played

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<v Speaker 1>by William Jackson Harper who can read minds.

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<v Speaker 3>Spoiler a lot friends, wasn't Quasi? I know a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of fans hoping it was. It Also was wasn't Nathaniel

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<v Speaker 3>Richards who I was hoping it was? But it was

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<v Speaker 3>William Jackson Hopper And he can read minds and he's

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<v Speaker 3>sick of it. He's absolutely sick of it. Genturrah, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>who we spoke about last week, who is the niece

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<v Speaker 3>of Hulk's love Interesting, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Jurella played by Katie m O'Brien and is basically ripped

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<v Speaker 1>straight from the pages of Yeah and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like a total warrior badass, like she will fight

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<v Speaker 3>through anything and she's not having any of kang shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And Veb played by David Desmalchin. And so the freedom

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<v Speaker 1>fighters are kind of not very trustful of Cassie and Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they think they're spies. They're like, why would you

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<v Speaker 3>just turn up here? Who are you? Also, interestingly, they

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<v Speaker 3>know nothing about the world above, They don't know about us.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know what exists.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know anything outside of this kind of This

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<v Speaker 3>is the subterraneum, quantum realm, underneath the quantum realm that

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<v Speaker 3>we have seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fully realized other universe, and Scott's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make them underhand. We come from this other realm where

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<v Speaker 1>we're all lot bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>Him and Cassie's really funny like talking each other with Banta.

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<v Speaker 1>We're bigger, Like they're telling the truth, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, they know nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Kang has sent his ultimate killing machine, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>a machine.

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<v Speaker 3>Only designed killing mechanize design killing.

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<v Speaker 1>Modov no modoc, and Modoc attacks the freedom Fighter camp

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<v Speaker 1>and absolutely raises it to the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Using his cosmic beam, his cosmic blade.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got like the lasers. He's got these laser saw

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<v Speaker 1>blades and the whole thing. Modoc, it turns out, is

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<v Speaker 1>our good friend Darren Cross, the former CEO of PIM Technologies.

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<v Speaker 1>He took over from Hank Pim and kind of usurped

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<v Speaker 1>his power and was attempting to duplicate his technology, which

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to sell, you know, to various countries

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<v Speaker 1>that wanted to weaponize this technology. But then of course

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<v Speaker 1>he was defeated and we thought sucked into some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like subatomic realm to disappear forever. But clearly he survived,

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<v Speaker 1>but with his head all huge in his little baby arm.

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<v Speaker 4>And I will say this is when we were right,

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<v Speaker 4>because we did theorize when they revealed that it was

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<v Speaker 4>Corey Stall and Darren Cross that what happened was he'd

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<v Speaker 4>got sucked in and when ended up in the quantum realm,

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<v Speaker 4>he essentially was just left with his head being bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>Than everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>That was right.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also were suggesting last week that perhaps instead

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<v Speaker 3>of Aim being the ones who would control and create

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<v Speaker 3>him and kind of turn him into Modoc, it was

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<v Speaker 3>Kang and that was also right. And uh, what I

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<v Speaker 3>did not see coming is that you get to see

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<v Speaker 3>like a little Modoc butt shot.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like I was, I was a fan. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got a very tall but yeah, he has it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little Modoc butt. When he's getting pulled out

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<v Speaker 3>and put into his.

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<v Speaker 1>Chair, it's like it's like very narrow but tall.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good at Tom Irish like a egg with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie and Scott are captured the rebels are routed and

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie and Scott are taken to meet King over at

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<v Speaker 1>Janet and Hank and Hopeland. Janet is finally like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what happened. There's this guy Kang. He landed. I

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<v Speaker 1>helped him out. His ship was broken down. It needed gas.

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<v Speaker 1>I helped him get gas for his ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that gas was this swirling bands of light

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<v Speaker 3>that many people, including myself, thought could be the ten rings,

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<v Speaker 3>could be something that fast Us built, But in this

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<v Speaker 3>case they were almost like taken from a clock, and

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<v Speaker 3>they are the core that pushes Kang's time chair through

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<v Speaker 3>multi verses, and Janet was able to help him, which

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like is going to come into play in

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<v Speaker 3>the future, like you're gonna have to have a Janet

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<v Speaker 3>on the Avengers who knows how to make a time

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<v Speaker 3>chair because she knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so right when the ship is, the chair

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<v Speaker 1>is gassed all the way up and they are like friends,

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<v Speaker 1>yaks connected, They're going home. We're going home.

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<v Speaker 3>This is and you don't know how long it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going back to the second left yea.

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<v Speaker 3>And the crazy thing is you don't know Janet said,

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<v Speaker 3>it was ages this could have been most of her

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<v Speaker 3>time in the quantum room. This is someone she spent

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<v Speaker 3>so much time with. She told him about Hope, they

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<v Speaker 3>shared their lives. They had this deep connection. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a ship that I now ship, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean that let's talk about a so so. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason apparently the genet didn't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Corner Room was won the war. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>was very traumatic. Loss of people died, okay, and she

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<v Speaker 1>she blamed herself. Yeah, but you could mention that. The

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<v Speaker 1>second thing more understandable is she fucked Crylar.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, that is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>When did she fuck Krylar?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I do not believe she was. She admitted she

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. She was like, she was like, sorry, Hank,

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<v Speaker 3>a woman has needs. I'm like, this is missgery.

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<v Speaker 1>You're getting it from Kryler.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been Kang.

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<v Speaker 5>I say that that That to me is like chemistry.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why that's why you keep it a secret, right

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<v Speaker 3>because you literally had sex with like an hand war

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<v Speaker 3>lord but.

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<v Speaker 1>Re arranged my spine. Yeah, like literally, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened. You want to know why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the Corner room because King rearranged

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<v Speaker 1>the alignment.

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<v Speaker 3>Of we had time sex and it was you could

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<v Speaker 3>never even compare. It was sex through the multivise.

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<v Speaker 1>And the truth is he's seen every kind of sexual

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<v Speaker 1>technique throughout.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time he's seen it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, and the.

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<v Speaker 1>True Day's right, every Cosmo twenty text that will blow

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<v Speaker 1>his mind. He's done it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Every commisation you can't possibly and hang measure up.

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<v Speaker 5>And the thing is like the chemistry is actually there, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>but I agree between Michelle and Bill Murray.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like, just admit you, Yeah, it was King. That's

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<v Speaker 3>my head kind of do not say anything. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make any And also like the tender moments that they

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<v Speaker 3>shed together fixing, you know, doing like sexy ship and

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<v Speaker 3>then talking about their former lives drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that one scene where there's like they're and they're sweating,

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<v Speaker 1>Janet helps can guess up the chair, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>touches the chair and because the chair is so linked

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<v Speaker 1>with Kang's mind, he can there's no controls, He controls

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<v Speaker 1>it with his thoughts. She is able to touch his thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>and she then realizes, oh my god, Kang is a

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<v Speaker 1>multi dimensional genocidal warlord who has wiped out trillions upon

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<v Speaker 1>trillions of life forms, entire timelines destroyed because of this

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<v Speaker 1>guy kan Uh, and she can't. It's such a stunning

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<v Speaker 1>reveal that she can't hide it. Like he looks at

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<v Speaker 1>her and he knows immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, he's like, oh you saw it, Janet, Like sorry, Janet,

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<v Speaker 3>but he offers that he says to that, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is like a great character moment for Janet because he

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<v Speaker 3>basically says to He's like, you can just forget about it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, not even that I can make you forget

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<v Speaker 3>that you even know. He's like, you can just him.

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<v Speaker 3>You will never have left and you will not know

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<v Speaker 3>anything about the terrible things that I did. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's really wild stuff. I'm one of the best, my favorite,

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite Jonathan Mage's moments in a movie

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<v Speaker 3>that's absolutely full of them. Janet. She's kind of quizzing

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<v Speaker 3>him and she says to him, like, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do when you get out of here? I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>she wants him to say, like, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Make a man destroy your verse.

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<v Speaker 3>And he looks at the camera and they do a

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<v Speaker 3>full face close up of Jonathan Magor's and he goes

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<v Speaker 3>win and she's like, Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like this kind of reading of Kang that

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<v Speaker 1>he's just like he's in it. You know, he's in

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<v Speaker 1>it for the thrill of competition. Yeah, he's like the

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan of Destroyers exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>He's pissed off at his fucking fellow Kangs, and he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I must succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be me I and so I. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see Janet being like, well, if I invite

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<v Speaker 1>you back to my world, you're gonna fight everybody, right

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, not your world.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a moral question. So, Kang, you

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<v Speaker 1>meet up Kan in the quantum realm, things may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not happen. And then he's like, I'll deliver you

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<v Speaker 1>back to your world, and he insists, then I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill your universe, but I will kill other universes.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go back?

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<v Speaker 3>Look morally Morally the answer is no. Morally the answer

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<v Speaker 3>is no, but it is I'm also not Janet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be really with you. This is Jonathan Major's king.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be like, I'll come say in that time. Chan.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when it's like when Shirry was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>no more, I can't I can down the world.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like why, Like they literally destroyed your whole family,

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<v Speaker 5>Like this is a this is a gift, So yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Morally, don't don't let him do it. And obviously you'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to live with that your whole rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be terrible, So it's bad times.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jenna is like, Okay, I can't consign my universe

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<v Speaker 1>to UH, to the depredations of King the conquer, So

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<v Speaker 1>therefore I am going to take the energy core that

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<v Speaker 1>I help guess up and I'm gonna steal it from him,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ken gives Chase, but then Janet hits it with

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<v Speaker 1>the UH the PIM and bigger particles in turns in

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<v Speaker 1>to this huge kind of swirling vortex of energy and

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<v Speaker 1>time dilation and everything, and now Kang is trapped. And Kang,

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<v Speaker 1>now that he's trapped, decides well, I might as well

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<v Speaker 1>just conquer the quantum realm and then goes about doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Builds this unbelievable empire. Like the implication is that really

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<v Speaker 3>what we see as the quantum realm now is mostly

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<v Speaker 3>Kang Kang doing. There was people who lived there, and

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<v Speaker 3>there are communities, but Kang is the one who's made

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<v Speaker 3>it this kind of bustling, technocratic like kind of space.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously through nightmarish dictatorship. There's lots of like fascistic you

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<v Speaker 3>know cops. Yeah, he made cops who are like, I guess,

0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 3>robot cops, you know, some some kind of blue faced cops.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, he's not he's not doing very nice things there,

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<v Speaker 3>Old Kang.

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<v Speaker 1>Over at Kang's headquarters, Kang meets Scott and Cassie, who

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<v Speaker 1>are in prison. Scott tries to bluff and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you fucked up this time. I'm an Avenger Avenger the

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 1>other Avengers we're coming. I don't want to flash my badge,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what's going on. And Kang's like, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>killed the Avengers. Yeah really, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't killed you before.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even count the amount of times I've killed

0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the Avengers. Are you four? And Scott has a funny

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 1>joke about you know, people.

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:19.160
<v Speaker 3>They confuse, they confuse. It's up types. So Kang.

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Uh says to Scott, hey, you have a you have

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<v Speaker 1>a solution. To my problem, which is my big end

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>energy core for my ship. You can shrink it down,

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and I would like you to help me shrink it down.

0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd like you to go in there shrink it down

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And if you'll do that, I will let

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you and your daughter live and you can go leave

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and do whatever. But if you don't do it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to kill her. And then to kind of, you know,

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.360
<v Speaker 1>show how powerful he is, he just makes a couple

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of gestures with his very very futuristic and extremely powerful

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:50.920
<v Speaker 1>power suit.

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<v Speaker 3>Kang cruisiotus cuss is Cassie like she's like up and

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 3>she's she's.

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 1>In a little and he's like bending her arm back

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<v Speaker 1>and Scott is like, fine, I'll fucking do it, and

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 1>he goes off and he dives into the energy huge

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:05.719
<v Speaker 1>energy core.

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:07.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is very interesting. I will stop here

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.399
<v Speaker 3>because this is just for people who find this kind.

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 3>This is one of those things that we always talk

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 3>about as fans. This is very different from what they

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 3>showed us in the trailer. In the trailer, they kind

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 3>of cut the dialogue to make it seem like Scott

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 3>was going to make a deal with Kang to get

0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.119
<v Speaker 3>back the time that he wanted from Cassie, like that

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.200
<v Speaker 3>he'd missed with Cassie. But I'm glad that that wasn't

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 3>the route they went. I think that was a bit

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.159
<v Speaker 3>of a red herring because Scott would never do that.

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 3>But what happens is Cassie is there, so he knows

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 3>he'll do anything to save his daughter, and that kind

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:38.560
<v Speaker 3>of pits him against what Hank and Hope and Janet

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.479
<v Speaker 3>are trying to do, which is get the core and

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:41.960
<v Speaker 3>take it away so can can't have it.

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So in the Core, Scott starts splitting off into all

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the countless versions of himself from all the other timelines.

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 1>There's they mostly all look like him, but then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a basket Robin Scott. I guess the Scott that never

0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>wake Robins. Yeah, and Scott is you know that they

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 1>all form kind of like an ant body structure, like

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>an ant tower that Scott, you know Cassie.

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 3>They all joining that they want is to save Cassie.

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Before that they were all freaking out. Every single version

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 3>of him is like a different possibility of what could happen.

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 3>But the one thing that they all share is they

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 3>all want to save Cassie.

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>So he's climbing towards the core, but he can't quite

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>get to it. And just then Hope, Hank, and Janet

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>arrive in Krylar stolen ship and Pope dives into the

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 1>core and she is able to uh together with Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>help him shrink down the core back to normal size.

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<v Speaker 1>Modoch then, while this is all going on, attacks Hank

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in the ship and is eager to take revenge against Hank,

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>his former mentor, who he now hates because he's an

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>embiganed head with little baby legs and little baby arms

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.919
<v Speaker 1>sitting in a chair and I guess just like pooping

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>himself all the time. Later, Hank tells Scott that he

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>was saved by ants and that yes, these are his

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>ants from his lab when everything in the lab was

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>sucked into the Qualm realm along with Hank, Hope, Scott,

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and Cassie, and that the ants, because of the time

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>dilation of the Qualum realm, lived like a thousand years

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<v Speaker 1>of time in a minute span of time, and in

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that thousand years that passed in the blink of an eye,

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>they evolved into this super smart socialist race of technologicallylogy.

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, technocratic ants, and it's incredible and Hank is really

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 3>like there's a lot of fun to be had. This

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 3>movie with kind of Hank's previous comic book history, which

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 3>we talked about a little, but Hank could control ants

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 3>with the helmet that he created, and he'd beat low

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 3>key with ants, and this movie they really lean into that.

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Janet rags on him about it, Hope rags on him

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 3>about it, like this man just loves ants and he

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 3>loves them, and you see and he he is so

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 3>proud of his ants now and.

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>He is like love.

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.640
<v Speaker 3>He probably if he had a choice whether to leave

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 3>or to stay with the ants, I think he'd probably

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 3>choose to stay with the nts.

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>So Kang has the now shrunken down cores ready to

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>put in his ship, and he's making preparations to leave

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and invade the above realm, which we can only assume

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to be Earth. He's taking his entire empire with him. Meanwhile,

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Cassie manages to escape from her holding cell and she

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 1>finds Gentra, who's also being held somewhere, and together they

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>start freeing all the prisoners inside Kang's headquarters and in

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a Captain America addressing shield over the PA at the

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>end of Winter Soldier moment. She is like, Hey, now

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.120
<v Speaker 1>is our time we need to strike. Let's start the rebellion.

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 1>She basically sends this broadcast, hijacks Kang's broadcast, sends it

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>all across the microverse. Excuse me, sends it all across

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the quantum realm. That's the same thing, and starts an insurgency.

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's very cool, and everyone knows this is always

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>what happens. But the Free Him fight as emerge. They

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 3>go up against Kang, and it seems like it's a

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 3>rise of sky. It's like huge, like and you know

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 3>they they came. It's kind of this huge moment.

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>There's the insurgency. They come. Scott charges Kang's eternal city.

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 3>He's a he's a giant.

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>He's giant. He's like one hundred feet tall. He's smashing

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>through it seems like he might get all the way

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>through to him, but he doesn't. And then Kang says

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to Scott, like, what did you fucking think you're gonna do?

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>You think you're gonna beat Maybe you can't beat me.

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>You talk to ants and that is the moment We've

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>done done.

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 3>All the all the.

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Ants come and some of the ants are absolutely huge.

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Some of them are wearing like sick almah, and they're

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 3>like communicating, and Hanks there with his little red scoff

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 3>on looking like he's leading an army of socialist dance.

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 3>It's very cute. I just have to shout out one

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>of my favorite movies. Everyone knows that I'm not gonna

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 3>say a tunnels. What I was gonna say is I

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 3>feel like the Final battle draws really heavily from Aquaman

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 3>because in the whole joke throughout the movie is like, oh,

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 3>he talks to fish like what are useless power? But

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 3>the final bout is he calls upon all the sea

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 3>creatures and that is what enables them to kind of win.

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 3>And you might be thinking, like, well, that's kind of

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 3>wild that Karen just got beat by some ants, but

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 3>you you know, those things are still coming.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>They say, King is like he puts up a force shield,

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>but the ants there's just too many fucking ants, guys,

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>so many ants. They sweep them away. Modoc comes in.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Helps them break through his force field.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>But then it is grievously injured by his very very

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>brief fight with King Uh, and the ants sweep everything away,

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and our heroes are left looking at the broken body

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of Modoc, who is dying, and he's like, oh my god,

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>like I finally did something good. At least I died

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>in Avenger and Scott and Hope are like, eh, that's right, sure,

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you definitely don't.

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, you were always a brother to me, Scott,

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 3>and Scott's like.

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, we did it. So the thought is now, Okay,

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Tang's gone. We did it. This is fucking great. Let's

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>get out of here. So Janet is able in Kang's

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 1>control room to open up another portal back to the

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>world they all jump through. Scott is about to jump through,

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>but guess who's there. It's fucking Kang and his suit

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>is shredded now, so he's not as powerful as he

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>once was.

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 3>His muscles a power.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>He's obviously jacked and this can do a little stuff

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and he basically beats the living tar out of Scott

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Lang for a period of time. But then Scott manages,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, to basically destroy the core once again to

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>embig in it, and Ken gets sucked into the core

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and disappears, but it also destroys the portal and this

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>basically leaves Scott and Hope trapped in the quantum realm.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Cope had jumped back through to try and help Scott.

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>In the end of the movie, Cassie is able to

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>rebuild her quantum tunneling device or quantum communication device, and

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they bring Scott and Hope back to the world, and

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we see Scott enjoying San Francisco as if he never left.

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>It seems as if he was deposited back like almost

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the very day.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seemed, which, by the way, is suspicious because

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 3>we know that time works differently in the quantum realm,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 3>so that's already should be a hint. And then we

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 3>get what is probably like my favorite joke slash moment

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 3>in the movie because they play it so well. These

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 3>were the pickups that I'm pretty sure I saw them

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 3>filming in San Pedro when I went to get my

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 3>phone screen fixed and Scott is walking and he's talking

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>about being an Avenger, and suddenly Reuben from the coffee

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 3>shop knows who he is. He's the bug Man, He's

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 3>not Spider Man. That means he doesn't get free coffee

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>es paid twelve dollars San Francisco prices. And then they

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 3>zoom in on Scott's face and they drop this absolutely

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 3>just existentially horrifying score. When Scott's like, oh.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Wait, Kenk's gone right, yeah, we beat him.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, did it great? He's like, wait a minute,

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I think I remember Kang saying that something bad was

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 3>coming and if we didn't let him out, he would

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:11.239
<v Speaker 3>all die. And he's like, but we did let not

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 3>let him out, and he died, So I think that's okay.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 3>And he did getting sucked into the port would have

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 3>killed him, right, It wouldn't have just sent him somewhere

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 3>else because that would probably be a problem. And then

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>he's like, like so many of us who suffer from

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 3>anxiety do, He's like, don't worry about it, it's fine.

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 3>And then he goes off and has like a charming

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 3>dinner with his family and everything's great, and he's kind

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 3>of making up to Cassie for all the birthdays he

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 3>missed by doing a fake birthday dinner.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Then we go to stick a number one it is,

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>we see Immortis, we see Rama Tut, and we see

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a younger kind of elite, a battle angel. Yeah, let's

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about this.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 3>So who is that Kang?

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It's my thing, I think it's either Kid I Mortis yep,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>or the Iron Lad.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that makes a lot of sense. I think

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 3>that it's a very different design. We we pretty much

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>covered like the main Kang variants, and there are not

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 3>like many that are fully fleshed out outside of just

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 3>like some fun Council of Kang appearances. So I think

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 3>you're right. I think it's It would be really cool

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 3>if it was Kidd and Mortus. He looked kind of

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 3>young he was wearing this like so battle Angel Elitas

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 3>skinhead Iron Lad would be awesome. I would love to

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 3>see them do that storyline would also be really another

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 3>young Avengers character. When we've got on Cassie in this movie,

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 3>it could be like Chris pointed this out where it's

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 3>like it could be a kind of modified Scarlet Centurion

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 3>costume because that's the other major character. But in this scene,

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 3>the other two characters, Immortus and Rama Tut have the

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>most like classic like almost like party City, And I

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 3>mean that in a compliment, like their costumes are like

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 3>they stalk to the comic.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Directly ripped from the they look.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>So I think that the idea of it being someone

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 3>like Kid and Mortis or Iron Lad makes a lot

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 3>more sense than them redesigning the iconic scarlet Centurion costume,

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 3>which I will shout out once again.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>So a Mortis and Rama Tut and the younger Kang

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>who is either the Iron Lad Kidmore or someone else,

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>are like, Hey, did you hear he's dead? Who kan?

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>And they basically are referencing Kang the Conqueror, the one

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>banish they had banished to the quantum realm, and they're like,

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>this is fucking great, he's dead.

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh. And then they're like, Bob, we all pissed we

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't kill him.

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are kind of pissed that we didn't kill him.

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And then they start talking about okay, but whoever did

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>kill him? That's the problem because now they and they

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>say something to the effect of they are aware of

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the multiverse now, uh, basically saying the heroes of Earth

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of know about the multiverse, and that might be

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a problem because it threatens our vast inter time empires

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that we have all built. And therefore they have gathered

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>all of the Kangs together in this vast place to

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>have to basically call the Council of Cross Time Kangs. Yeah,

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>just vote on what their next move is, and I will.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Say something that's really important kind of touch on her

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 3>as well. Is so Kang the konkeror we saw the

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 3>horrific things that he did, but when he explained it

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>to Janet and later on when he was monologuing to

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Janet and a really nice kind of echo of that

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 3>he who remains stuff, he claimed he was doing it

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 3>to protect other worlds from these other Kangs. He felt

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>like they were conquering too much and he had to

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>stop them, and they were trying to stop him. So

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>there's this kind of constant battle which is key to Kang.

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 3>But when Scott said to him, what's coming, he said

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 3>me like lots so to me. And so we're now

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 3>seeing I'm not defending what Kang did. I don't know

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 3>the horrors that he wrought, but we are definitely seeing

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 3>an immediate ripple effect of these giant Council of cross

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Cut time kangs by like you know two icons Walt

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Simonson and John Brasqumma from Avengers two ninety two, Like

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 3>we are seeing that come to fruition immediately, Like this

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>is gonna be a problem for the Avengers and it's

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>not just going to be one Kang that turns up

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 3>one time and another one. They are together, and there

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 3>are thousands of Kangs here.

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Now what maybe muddies the waters a little bit is

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Kang mentions that one of the main threats alongside all

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the versions of him is incursions. He says specifically incursions,

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>which you know, for people who have read New Avenger

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Haickman's New Avengers and Avengers Illuminati and The Time Runs

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Out Timeline will understand that this is a reference to

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the smashing together of various dimensions into the Earth six

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>one six dimension and the choices that some of the

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:34.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of the main superheroes of the six one six units,

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the choices, the hard choices that they have to make

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to save the six one six universe. So, and of

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>course we've seen an image of incursions previously, So it

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>seems like whatever whatever the effect of all of these

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Kangs is, it will be tied up with these potential

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>incursions of various dimensions smashing into the definitely.

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 3>And this is gonna lead into you know, this is

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 3>like you know, Kevin Faggie calls it the multiverse saga,

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 3>like this is gonna lead into whatever reason we get

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 3>to secret Wars this is it Kang dynasty. You know,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 3>he even says it the Kang dynasty, and then Cassie

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 3>like breaks through him. You know, this is our big

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>moment where we meet the people who are going to

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 3>cause it, and every single one of them is Jonathan

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Major's and I love it. There's every kind of Jonathan Majors.

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.720
<v Speaker 3>They are hyped up. This is like a sports event.

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 3>There's a scroll at the end, who's like, is it

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>lizard Kang? Is it? Is it a Kang? Who's a scroll? Like?

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 3>It's very interesting and fun and if you love the

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Council of Kang's and you love these kind of deep

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 3>cut like Marvel cosmic stuff, you'll be very happy with

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 3>that stuff.

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very Avengers Forever. It feels like the launch

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>time Avengers.

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I definitely think that's the route we're going, especially because

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 3>there's like a really interesting thing here with Hank becoming

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>the one who's obsessed with the ants and Scott kind

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 3>of being moved away. Yeah, from the ads. I think

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 3>you know we were talking before this, but you were

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of mentioning like some characters that Scot or some

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Monica's Scott could take on aside from app man.

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that and in a second after we

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Stinger number two, So we go back. We go

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>back to the early twentieth late nineteenth century. Uh, and

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>it's some kind of like you know, traveling showman kind

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>of vaudeville kind of set up in somewhere in a

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>small theater and a scientist named Victor Timely played by

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.720
<v Speaker 1>played by Jonathan Majors is showing off what he claims

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to be his time machine and in the audience, our

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>friends from the Time Variance Authority and elsewhere, mister Mobius

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and Loki are sitting there watching him, and Loki said,

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that's him, That's that's the bad guy, that's King, and

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Mobius is like, are you true? It's great, this seems awesome,

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and then we cut and this very much seems to

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>be a trailer for Loki season two. This is going

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to be some sort of Kang launch into the rest

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of the universe. X Ray Vision will be back and

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>we're back. Let's talk about our takeaways from this. First,

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned Avengers Forever. This is a movie that feels

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like heavily edited. We'll talk about that in a second.

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Like they definitely moved a lot of the deck chairs

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>around all throughout the production process of this movie, it

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>seems to me that if they go the Avengers Forever route,

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>which we won't spoil but you should read because it's

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.479
<v Speaker 1>very fun. It's really fun. It's twelve issues, it's really great,

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 1>and you'll get a lot of the backstory of Kang

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and Immortis and some of the other Kangs. But in

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that story, Immortis and Kang end up kind of going

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>head to head with their own set of allies, and

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Kang is kind of the good guy. Kang kind of

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 1>a lie with the Avengers against Immortis and the things

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that it Mortis wants to do. Which listen, I think

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that I think that Marvel looked at what Jonathan Majors

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 1>is doing and kind of said, how do we make

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>him kind of good?

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.959
<v Speaker 1>How can we get a good version of Kang?

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 3>I absolutely agree with you. He's definitely there's so many

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 3>different iterations of the character that throughout history, it would

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 3>be so easy for them to cast a version of Kang,

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.720
<v Speaker 3>whether it's Nathaniel Richards, whether it's you know, a tired,

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of weary aged Immortis, or whether it is actually Kang.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 3>The conqueror who comes back and realizes the error of

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 3>his ways, or realizes the only way he can get

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>what he wants is to help the Avengers. We're definitely

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 3>going to see a heroic version because Jonathan Majors can

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.280
<v Speaker 3>just sell it so hard and literally, Like his performance

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 3>in this movie is so good. I love their final

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 3>episode of Loki is one of my favorite episodes of

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 3>MCUTV because of Jonathan Major's and this movie. His performance

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 3>is so good that you understand why someone would be like,

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 3>he's amazing. Let just build a whole part of a

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 3>franchise around him, Like, let's see what he can do.

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Let's tell us about your Victor Timely theory, which I

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like a lot.

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so spoiler alert for Victor Timeley's like seven appearances. Yes,

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 3>as the as the listeners know, I like a strange character.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 3>So I am a fan of Victor Timeley in the

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 3>comics Victor Timeley, as I mentioned last week when I

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 3>was when I was just talking about Kang variants, and

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think that Victor Timeley would be in the movie.

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Victor Timeley was a version of Kang who everyone thought

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 3>was dead, and it was to hide in space and time.

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 3>He went back in the past, he went to the

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 3>night he went to like nineteen oh two, and he

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 3>founded this time a town called Timely, Wisconsin, a nice

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 3>reference to the old Marvel comics, And basically he used

0:39:55.160 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 3>his skills and intelligence and all of the weapon and

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 3>technology that he has known throughout the years to basically

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 3>create a super technological town even though it looked like

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of an Old West town. He has a cool

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 3>mustache like Jonathan Major's. So my gut says, if they're

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 3>gonna do this, they will end up doing what they

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 3>did in the comics, which is this is really Kang,

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 3>probably the Kang that we just saw. It's not like

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.280
<v Speaker 3>this true, different version of Kang. This is a persona

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 3>that Kang puts on to hide. I think the coolest

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 3>thing one because I want him to be in every episode.

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that this victor Timely is probably gonna team

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 3>up with Lokiommobius and be like, yes, we must stop

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 3>the other Kangs, like I am just a good old

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 3>time traveler, like yay. But then we're gonna learn at

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 3>some point that he is actually Kang, the conqueror who

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 3>escaped from this part of the quantum realm.

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>The thing about Kangs, just as an aside. The thing

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>about Kangs and a more included is they are all

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the time plotting against the other tech tanks, like they

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:00.879
<v Speaker 1>have they are.

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.240
<v Speaker 3>Like the pettiest mother. They call these.

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>The Council of Cross Time. Can't there everybody show up meanwhile.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Like they're like they're putting brute to see each other,

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 3>like putting.

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Explosives again under one of their seats, like one of

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>them they're like planning on stabbing in the clock, like

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>they're always, always, always planning against each other. So I

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>do I like that. One of the things that we

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about is Cassie as stature, and we kind of

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>got it in this movie.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she she turns giant. She has a giant hug

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 3>with her dad. I think it will be really cool

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 3>to see Cassie on her own, like, especially if they's

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 3>established her as this kind of freedom fighter esque, like

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 3>someone with big morals. That could be really good for

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 3>a young Avengers team. It's also going to be interesting

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 3>because early on in the movie and that kind of

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 3>first like really swift ten minutes that sets up the

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 3>quantum rum stuff, Scott is wary of her being a hero,

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and I think that conflict is gonna come into play.

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I also think it's interesting because I do think that

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 3>probably Scott is gonna move away from the am Man

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 3>mantle and it will be like Goliath or Giant.

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Man, and you may yeah, you know.

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Actually, in memory of Darren Kross, my brother, I have

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 3>to say, look, man, I'm I'm a big Modoc fan,

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of a cosmic beam. I'm not a hundred

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not one hundred percent sold on the Darren cross Modoc.

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I hope that we will see a different version of

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Modoc in the future, but maybe that's unlikely. It is

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 3>such a weird character to do, so maybe it's one

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 3>of the ones where it's better to just do it

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 3>in a unique way. But that to me was the biggest,

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that felt like a real solid, like Rick and

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Morty joke, Like you see Modoc and then you're like, yo,

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 3>that's Darren my friend from work. Like that was the

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 3>one where I felt like it really crossed over into

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 3>that rather than being a reflection of all the things

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 3>that inspired Rick and Morty, because I think that's where

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 3>those similarities come across. As Rick and Morty draws so

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 3>heavily from the comics.

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's talk about the the Rick and Morty of

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>it all. So Jeff Loveness, screenwriter behind this, This film,

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>of course came up from the Morty pipeline, like so

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>many Movel like so many Marvel talents, and it was

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see people say, oh, man, this is like

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>really influenced by Rick and Morty, when in fact, Rick

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 1>mor By this weird shit, by this weird shit, and

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of repackaged it.

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.919
<v Speaker 3>The reason there's a Council of Ricks is because there's

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 3>a Council of Kangs like that comes directly from it.

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of that interesting cyclic or stuff, especially

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 3>because the sci fi of it all and the pulp

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 3>of it all that's been in the veins of this

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>storyline since we were talking about you know, Captain America forty

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 3>three or something like there's some or twenty three or

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>something where it's like some old forties comics where pop

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 3>written by a pop writer. So yeah, it was definitely

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 3>interesting to see that the modoc thing was the only

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 3>one for me where I was like, that feels like

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 3>it could be in Rick and Morty. Everything else I

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>was like this is just someone who loved playing in

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 3>that playground and with these genre trips, finally getting to

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 3>do it in a way that's actually cannon, which is

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 3>really cool to see. And I love the inclusion of

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 3>like verb, I love like a Weird Monster, And I

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 3>think David does more so good. I missed seeing his

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 3>character from ant Matn, I miss seeing Louise, but I

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 3>understand what the choices, why that they made him, why

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 3>it needed to be this kind of expanded science fiction film.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I will say so to think about the things that

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>were changed, it is I'm pretty sure there's a version

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>of this movie where all the secondary characters that you

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>meet in the quantum Realm, like Gentro, like veb Black

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Quause got a Corg treatment where you learned some of

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>their backstory. And it feels like that really hit the

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>cutting room floor. And secondarily, and I think this is

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like what people are responding to in some of the

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>bad reviews it. I think that if you gave Victoria

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Alonzo and Kevin Feigy like the ability to snap their fingers,

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Thanos style, and and recreate the reality

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:54.479
<v Speaker 1>the way they wanted to, I think that Kang would

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>make his debut in like either an Avengers movie proper

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>or thor or somebody or like an A list Yes,

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody who is not a man no distruct to a

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>man who I love. And I think the first ant

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Man movie is really really fun, and I think the

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>briefcase fight is maybe my favorite action scene in all

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Marvel movies. I think the second one is good. Uh,

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 1>And I think Scott Lank, you know, fills a very

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>specific niche in the MCU. I think if your supposition

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is that Kang he's so scary that Janet doesn't even

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to about him anymore unless you know,

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>fucked him.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 3>But that's the versional honesty. That was what was on

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 3>the coying room floor for me.

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>He is this scary warlord who is is so scary

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that other versions of himself throughout the multiverse scared of him.

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Then it's a little bit like, so he got beat

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>but the ants, you know, So this is.

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I think another thing that I think people are reacting to.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>You are one hundred percent right in the context of

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 3>the MCU, right, But isn't that like the most common

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 3>book thing ever that Kang would just get beaten by

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 3>some random like lower tier hero who managed to see

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 3>through him. It's so comic booky the same way you

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 3>pointed out after the cinema when I was talking about Modoc,

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 3>you were like, that's so Modoc, Like Modoc will come

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 3>in and just get wiped out and he's just the

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 3>out right And I think in that way, this kind

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 3>of same with I found Multiverse of Madness. I think

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 3>when the movies become very similar to the way that

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 3>comic book narratives are told, where they're a little bit

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 3>more like you can be here for a couple of minutes,

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.399
<v Speaker 3>and then you're here and some really wild powers happen,

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 3>and the stakes aren't necessarily as emotionally driven and grounded.

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 3>That's not always going to sit well with people who

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.439
<v Speaker 3>grew up with Winter Soldier or people who really loved

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 3>the early era of Iron Man. You know, this is

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 3>a very different beast, and I do think that also.

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I wonder this is not a think, it's more of

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 3>a question. I wonder if people who really wanted it

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 3>to feel different from Phase four. I think that also

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 3>might be a bit of a feeling, because this feels

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 3>to me like it's in that same wheel.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Ho No we're in that multiverse kind of era and

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>to that, you know, in that vein. Part of what

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>basically all of what makes King so hard to fight

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>is that he's got weapons that are a million years

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>more advanced than anybody else's because you can time travel.

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>He's fought everybody, every version of everybody, and so he's

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>like a video game player with endless lives. He just

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>like a living cheek code. Yeah, he knows how to

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>speed run every fight there is, and then he gets

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.760
<v Speaker 1>beat by the giant super smart ants, which I love.

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>That said, it feels like the other thing that makes

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I think people maybe not so satisfied with that ending

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>is that you I could see a world in which

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you needed a setup for the ants, like and this

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>is going to sound like a joke, but like Anthony

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>level character development for the ants, so that there is

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of journey when the ants show up

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>and merk ca.

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<v Speaker 3>Ants, No, this is what this is me. This is

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 3>what I would have done. This would have been my

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 3>bit that ended up on the you know, the chopping

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 3>room floor. I would say this. It's like the ants

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 3>were so technologically advanced that they knew about Kang, they

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 3>knew that he had this power and they basically hid

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 3>their identity from him in every universe so they could

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 3>beat him in this one universe. You could have like

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 3>a thirty second to one minute kind of bit about

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 3>something like that. But like you said, I really felt

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.799
<v Speaker 3>that the first two acts there was a lot of

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I felt like maybe like a bit of puzzling putting together,

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 3>where there was probably a little bit more time spent

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 3>with each character.

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I do think you need that ant piece because you know,

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it begs the question in future fights with King, can

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you just always beat in with ants? Can we go

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>back to the Quanta ram and get the ants? Hang

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>nts we're at the.

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Dude in like in like four years, we'll like we'll

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh shit, the ants they came back, like

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 3>the Dux Macana.

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Like beating the fucking ship out of all that.

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Shans has come back. He's on that side. It's him

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:14.399
<v Speaker 3>and Adam Willock and then just Theo's.

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Like heck the ads and it's like, oh yeah, the.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Ads they come up like the Lost of Us.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>But that's I mean, that's part of it that the

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>movie is getting absolutely crushed on rotten tomatoes, which I

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>think is I do think it's part of what you're saying.

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>This is a very common this is this is a

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>six issue arc that I would read in a comic,

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think it is. It's it's if you're not

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 1>in love with this world, it might be a little

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 1>difficult to deal with the other stuff. There's some critiques

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like of like Michael Douglas sleepwalking through this movie. I

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>thought Michael Douglas was great. I think if you're gonna

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>like to me, it's definitely not a a like an

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Odin level, literally an like Odin actually sleeps through his role.

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, babe, iconic like that's.

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Part of his character is for large chunks of the movie.

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 2>He's he's he's just like he's a dying.

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm dead, babe. Okay, So currently is that

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 3>fifty two percent when we recorded this, which is five

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 3>percent higher than eternals. So will it become the lowest

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.439
<v Speaker 3>straight MC A movie. I mean, we're on Tomorrow's. It's

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 3>just subjective. It's just a bunch of different craics. I

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 3>end up on there sometimes, you know, it's a bunch

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 3>of different critics who come together. I was very happy

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 3>to see when I was checking the titles on tomorrow

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 3>school seventy seven percent audience people are.

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Coming around, they're learning the Good Book of the Eternals

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and club. You know what, I need to watch it again.

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I watch it, watch it. I need to watch it

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>again because I will say that I liked. And then

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in the last Quantuminia is significantly more in the theater

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>than I did initially the Eternals, which is now, as

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, climbing the ranks of the Toma, the audience,

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the audience scores of the Tomato machine. But that's it.

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>It is a wild working movie.

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 3>If you love that MC you're gonna be happy. It's

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:12.240
<v Speaker 3>a wild MCU ride. Jonathan Majors Jonathan Major's Jonathan Major's

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Major's I like your prediction. I feel like when

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 3>we get like, you know, Kang Dynasty, it surprises us all.

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like not an Avengers movie. It's just like a

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 3>solo Jonathan Major's Kang movie. That's definitely gonna be the Oscar.

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I see it in his future.

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Kang is there, all the Kangs, the Avengers are routed

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you hear on your left and their portals

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>open and it's ants every Actually.

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say before I think we hear

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 3>every other we were right. But the one thing I

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 3>want to say last week, when Jason did his very

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 3>good MCU timeline of the ant Man family and I

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 3>was kind of peppering in some little comic book footnotes,

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:52.879
<v Speaker 3>one thing that we did have a lot of fun

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 3>talking about was how much Hank loves ants. Yeah, so

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I've basically taken that as we were right, because that

0:51:57.960 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 3>has not been a part of the MCU in the

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 3>way that it was in this movie. So I'm saying,

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.240
<v Speaker 1>We were let the ants like colonize the Savage Land

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and let them just like live there. And that's a

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:09.280
<v Speaker 1>free idea for Kevin fi.

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, free with royalties Up next nerd Out.

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 3>In today's that out where you tell us what you

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 3>love them why, or a theory that you're excited shout,

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 3>which you know we love to hear, Grant tells us

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:30.240
<v Speaker 3>a very relevant theory about he who remains from season

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 3>one of Loki, and Grant actually sent multiple emails to

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 3>explain this theory. So Jason, I'll let you do the reading.

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Here's great. I was watching the finale of Loki again

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 1>before Quantumnia comes out. And something that always bugged me

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't know was that we didn't know where

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 1>He who Remains Palace is. I've always thought that the

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the Multiverse saga would find us back with

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.919
<v Speaker 1>He who Remains at his palace, which is which led

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to my theory, He who Remains Palace is located on

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the ruins of Battle.

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:57.799
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>That's actually really cool. Also, He who Remains says he

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 1>won the Multiverse Award by taming aliof What if the

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Snaplke event at the end of King Dynasty and the

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 1>lead into Secret Wars is he who Remains unleashing AliOS

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>on the multiverse. One okay, sorry, one last thing. What

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 1>if the question of which timeline will become the Sacred

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Timeline is what Secret Wars is fought over? Oh that's wow.

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>All of Earth's mightiest heroes brought from all the timelines

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to figure out which one is secret.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm like, get hired because that's think about that.

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 3>That kind of takes my very good Kevin FIGI hire

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 3>the idea of Deadpool being like hied by the TVA

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:36.759
<v Speaker 3>to kill off all the timelines. I like this version better,

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 3>where It's almost like all of them have to come

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 3>together to fight alongside. But as they're doing it, they

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 3>realize the only thing they can do is save one timeline,

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 3>and they all basically have to choose which one. That

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 3>would be really really interesting.

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that is really cool. I particularly like that

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 1>the He who Remains Palace is built on the ruins.

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 1>That is really cool.

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Because I think a lot of us, like a lot

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:01.240
<v Speaker 3>of people had thought like, is it is the quantum realm?

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Like I had a lot of people DM me asking

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 3>me if that was something that they thought could happen.

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:08.360
<v Speaker 3>And I really liked that theory. But that one is

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 3>really exciting to me because I like the idea that

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 3>his ruins are in the remain of something that has

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 3>already happened for him, but that we don't know about.

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>That's very key. And just for those of you who

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>are aren't familiar with Secret Wars of Bad World, basically

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>in a post incursion world, the universe is remade by

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Doom, who creates this battle planet that is ruled

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>by you know, by these different warlords and these different

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 1>fiftoms where kind of every universe exists on one globe

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.360
<v Speaker 1>on one globe. There's a universe of thors, there's a

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>universe beyond the wall, et cetera, etcetera, universe of zombies, yeah, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 1>all in one planet. That's a really cool that's a

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>really cool theory. Grant, Thank you so much.

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was the best. Thanks so much, Grant. And

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.960
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0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:54.440
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