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Speaker 1: Com everywhere you get your podcasts. This podcast contase spoilers

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Speaker 1: for Aunt Man and the Wasp, Quantumnia, What is this

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Speaker 1: a realm for ants? Hello, my name is Jason.

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Speaker 2: Kntepkion and I'm Raisy Night and welcome to x ray Vision,

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Speaker 2: the Crooked Media podcasts where we dive deep all the

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Speaker 2: way down to sub atomic size to the quantum realms,

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Speaker 2: talk about your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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Speaker 3: In this episode, we are going to be riding on

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Speaker 3: the back of giant ants to excavate.

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Speaker 1: The giant sub atomic air.

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Speaker 3: They're giant in the sub atomic realm. But if you

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Speaker 3: but we will be on them and we will be

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Speaker 3: riding them into the airlock where we will talk about

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Speaker 3: Amman and the West Quantumania with spoiler free reaction first

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Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next to your lock, we're stepping

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Speaker 1: for ant Man and the Wasp quantum Mania. First up,

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Speaker 3: It's like a wild sci fi romp through the quantum realm.

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Speaker 3: This is not a heroic portrayal. But I will tell

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Speaker 1: Yes and again, Kang Kan Kang Kan Kang Kang. He

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Speaker 1: Uh says to Scott, hey, you have a you have

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Speaker 3: the route they went. I think that was a bit

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00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: of a red herring because Scott would never do that.

436
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: But what happens is Cassie is there, so he knows

437
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: he'll do anything to save his daughter, and that kind

438
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 3: of pits him against what Hank and Hope and Janet

439
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 3: are trying to do, which is get the core and

440
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: take it away so can can't have it.

441
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: So in the Core, Scott starts splitting off into all

442
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: the countless versions of himself from all the other timelines.

443
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: There's they mostly all look like him, but then there's

444
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: a basket Robin Scott. I guess the Scott that never

445
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: wake Robins. Yeah, and Scott is you know that they

446
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: all form kind of like an ant body structure, like

447
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: an ant tower that Scott, you know Cassie.

448
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: They all joining that they want is to save Cassie.

449
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: Before that they were all freaking out. Every single version

450
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: of him is like a different possibility of what could happen.

451
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: But the one thing that they all share is they

452
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: all want to save Cassie.

453
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: So he's climbing towards the core, but he can't quite

454
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: get to it. And just then Hope, Hank, and Janet

455
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: arrive in Krylar stolen ship and Pope dives into the

456
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: core and she is able to uh together with Scott,

457
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: help him shrink down the core back to normal size.

458
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: Modoch then, while this is all going on, attacks Hank

459
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: in the ship and is eager to take revenge against Hank,

460
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: his former mentor, who he now hates because he's an

461
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: embiganed head with little baby legs and little baby arms

462
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: sitting in a chair and I guess just like pooping

463
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: himself all the time. Later, Hank tells Scott that he

464
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: was saved by ants and that yes, these are his

465
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: ants from his lab when everything in the lab was

466
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: sucked into the Qualm realm along with Hank, Hope, Scott,

467
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: and Cassie, and that the ants, because of the time

468
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: dilation of the Qualum realm, lived like a thousand years

469
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: of time in a minute span of time, and in

470
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: that thousand years that passed in the blink of an eye,

471
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: they evolved into this super smart socialist race of technologicallylogy.

472
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, technocratic ants, and it's incredible and Hank is really

473
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of fun to be had. This

474
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: movie with kind of Hank's previous comic book history, which

475
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 3: we talked about a little, but Hank could control ants

476
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: with the helmet that he created, and he'd beat low

477
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: key with ants, and this movie they really lean into that.

478
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: Janet rags on him about it, Hope rags on him

479
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: about it, like this man just loves ants and he

480
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: loves them, and you see and he he is so

481
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: proud of his ants now and.

482
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: He is like love.

483
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 3: He probably if he had a choice whether to leave

484
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: or to stay with the ants, I think he'd probably

485
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: choose to stay with the nts.

486
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: So Kang has the now shrunken down cores ready to

487
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: put in his ship, and he's making preparations to leave

488
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: and invade the above realm, which we can only assume

489
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: to be Earth. He's taking his entire empire with him. Meanwhile,

490
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: Cassie manages to escape from her holding cell and she

491
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: finds Gentra, who's also being held somewhere, and together they

492
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: start freeing all the prisoners inside Kang's headquarters and in

493
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: a Captain America addressing shield over the PA at the

494
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: end of Winter Soldier moment. She is like, Hey, now

495
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: is our time we need to strike. Let's start the rebellion.

496
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: She basically sends this broadcast, hijacks Kang's broadcast, sends it

497
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: all across the microverse. Excuse me, sends it all across

498
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: the quantum realm. That's the same thing, and starts an insurgency.

499
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very cool, and everyone knows this is always

500
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: what happens. But the Free Him fight as emerge. They

501
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: go up against Kang, and it seems like it's a

502
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: rise of sky. It's like huge, like and you know

503
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: they they came. It's kind of this huge moment.

504
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: There's the insurgency. They come. Scott charges Kang's eternal city.

505
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: He's a he's a giant.

506
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: He's giant. He's like one hundred feet tall. He's smashing

507
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: through it seems like he might get all the way

508
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: through to him, but he doesn't. And then Kang says

509
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: to Scott, like, what did you fucking think you're gonna do?

510
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: You think you're gonna beat Maybe you can't beat me.

511
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: You talk to ants and that is the moment We've

512
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: done done.

513
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: All the all the.

514
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Ants come and some of the ants are absolutely huge.

515
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: Some of them are wearing like sick almah, and they're

516
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: like communicating, and Hanks there with his little red scoff

517
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: on looking like he's leading an army of socialist dance.

518
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: It's very cute. I just have to shout out one

519
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: of my favorite movies. Everyone knows that I'm not gonna

520
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: say a tunnels. What I was gonna say is I

521
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: feel like the Final battle draws really heavily from Aquaman

522
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: because in the whole joke throughout the movie is like, oh,

523
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: he talks to fish like what are useless power? But

524
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: the final bout is he calls upon all the sea

525
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: creatures and that is what enables them to kind of win.

526
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: And you might be thinking, like, well, that's kind of

527
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: wild that Karen just got beat by some ants, but

528
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: you you know, those things are still coming.

529
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: They say, King is like he puts up a force shield,

530
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: but the ants there's just too many fucking ants, guys,

531
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: so many ants. They sweep them away. Modoc comes in.

532
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: Helps them break through his force field.

533
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: But then it is grievously injured by his very very

534
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: brief fight with King Uh, and the ants sweep everything away,

535
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: and our heroes are left looking at the broken body

536
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: of Modoc, who is dying, and he's like, oh my god,

537
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: like I finally did something good. At least I died

538
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: in Avenger and Scott and Hope are like, eh, that's right, sure,

539
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: you definitely don't.

540
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: And he's like, you were always a brother to me, Scott,

541
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: and Scott's like.

542
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we did it. So the thought is now, Okay,

543
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Tang's gone. We did it. This is fucking great. Let's

544
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: get out of here. So Janet is able in Kang's

545
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: control room to open up another portal back to the

546
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: world they all jump through. Scott is about to jump through,

547
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: but guess who's there. It's fucking Kang and his suit

548
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: is shredded now, so he's not as powerful as he

549
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: once was.

550
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: His muscles a power.

551
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: He's obviously jacked and this can do a little stuff

552
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: and he basically beats the living tar out of Scott

553
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Lang for a period of time. But then Scott manages,

554
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, to basically destroy the core once again to

555
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: embig in it, and Ken gets sucked into the core

556
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: and disappears, but it also destroys the portal and this

557
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: basically leaves Scott and Hope trapped in the quantum realm.

558
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Cope had jumped back through to try and help Scott.

559
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: In the end of the movie, Cassie is able to

560
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: rebuild her quantum tunneling device or quantum communication device, and

561
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: they bring Scott and Hope back to the world, and

562
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: we see Scott enjoying San Francisco as if he never left.

563
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: It seems as if he was deposited back like almost

564
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: the very day.

565
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed, which, by the way, is suspicious because

566
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: we know that time works differently in the quantum realm,

567
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: so that's already should be a hint. And then we

568
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: get what is probably like my favorite joke slash moment

569
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: in the movie because they play it so well. These

570
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: were the pickups that I'm pretty sure I saw them

571
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: filming in San Pedro when I went to get my

572
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: phone screen fixed and Scott is walking and he's talking

573
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: about being an Avenger, and suddenly Reuben from the coffee

574
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: shop knows who he is. He's the bug Man, He's

575
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: not Spider Man. That means he doesn't get free coffee

576
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: es paid twelve dollars San Francisco prices. And then they

577
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: zoom in on Scott's face and they drop this absolutely

578
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: just existentially horrifying score. When Scott's like, oh.

579
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: Wait, Kenk's gone right, yeah, we beat him.

580
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: And he's like, did it great? He's like, wait a minute,

581
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: I think I remember Kang saying that something bad was

582
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: coming and if we didn't let him out, he would

583
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 3: all die. And he's like, but we did let not

584
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: let him out, and he died, So I think that's okay.

585
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: And he did getting sucked into the port would have

586
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: killed him, right, It wouldn't have just sent him somewhere

587
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: else because that would probably be a problem. And then

588
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: he's like, like so many of us who suffer from

589
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: anxiety do, He's like, don't worry about it, it's fine.

590
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: And then he goes off and has like a charming

591
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 3: dinner with his family and everything's great, and he's kind

592
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: of making up to Cassie for all the birthdays he

593
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: missed by doing a fake birthday dinner.

594
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: Then we go to stick a number one it is,

595
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: we see Immortis, we see Rama Tut, and we see

596
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: a younger kind of elite, a battle angel. Yeah, let's

597
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: talk about this.

598
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: So who is that Kang?

599
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: It's my thing, I think it's either Kid I Mortis yep,

600
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: or the Iron Lad.

601
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: I think that makes a lot of sense. I think

602
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: that it's a very different design. We we pretty much

603
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: covered like the main Kang variants, and there are not

604
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: like many that are fully fleshed out outside of just

605
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: like some fun Council of Kang appearances. So I think

606
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: you're right. I think it's It would be really cool

607
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: if it was Kidd and Mortus. He looked kind of

608
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: young he was wearing this like so battle Angel Elitas

609
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: skinhead Iron Lad would be awesome. I would love to

610
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: see them do that storyline would also be really another

611
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: young Avengers character. When we've got on Cassie in this movie,

612
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: it could be like Chris pointed this out where it's

613
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: like it could be a kind of modified Scarlet Centurion

614
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: costume because that's the other major character. But in this scene,

615
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: the other two characters, Immortus and Rama Tut have the

616
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: most like classic like almost like party City, And I

617
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: mean that in a compliment, like their costumes are like

618
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: they stalk to the comic.

619
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Directly ripped from the they look.

620
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: So I think that the idea of it being someone

621
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: like Kid and Mortis or Iron Lad makes a lot

622
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: more sense than them redesigning the iconic scarlet Centurion costume,

623
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: which I will shout out once again.

624
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: So a Mortis and Rama Tut and the younger Kang

625
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: who is either the Iron Lad Kidmore or someone else,

626
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: are like, Hey, did you hear he's dead? Who kan?

627
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: And they basically are referencing Kang the Conqueror, the one

628
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: banish they had banished to the quantum realm, and they're like,

629
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: this is fucking great, he's dead.

630
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: Uh. And then they're like, Bob, we all pissed we

631
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: didn't kill him.

632
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are kind of pissed that we didn't kill him.

633
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: And then they start talking about okay, but whoever did

634
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: kill him? That's the problem because now they and they

635
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: say something to the effect of they are aware of

636
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: the multiverse now, uh, basically saying the heroes of Earth

637
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: kind of know about the multiverse, and that might be

638
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: a problem because it threatens our vast inter time empires

639
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: that we have all built. And therefore they have gathered

640
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: all of the Kangs together in this vast place to

641
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: have to basically call the Council of Cross Time Kangs. Yeah,

642
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: just vote on what their next move is, and I will.

643
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: Say something that's really important kind of touch on her

644
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: as well. Is so Kang the konkeror we saw the

645
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: horrific things that he did, but when he explained it

646
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: to Janet and later on when he was monologuing to

647
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: Janet and a really nice kind of echo of that

648
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: he who remains stuff, he claimed he was doing it

649
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: to protect other worlds from these other Kangs. He felt

650
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: like they were conquering too much and he had to

651
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: stop them, and they were trying to stop him. So

652
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: there's this kind of constant battle which is key to Kang.

653
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: But when Scott said to him, what's coming, he said

654
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: me like lots so to me. And so we're now

655
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: seeing I'm not defending what Kang did. I don't know

656
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: the horrors that he wrought, but we are definitely seeing

657
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: an immediate ripple effect of these giant Council of cross

658
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: Cut time kangs by like you know two icons Walt

659
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: Simonson and John Brasqumma from Avengers two ninety two, Like

660
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: we are seeing that come to fruition immediately, Like this

661
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: is gonna be a problem for the Avengers and it's

662
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: not just going to be one Kang that turns up

663
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Speaker 3: one time and another one. They are together, and there

664
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Speaker 3: are thousands of Kangs here.

665
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Speaker 1: Now what maybe muddies the waters a little bit is

666
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: Kang mentions that one of the main threats alongside all

667
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: the versions of him is incursions. He says specifically incursions,

668
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: which you know, for people who have read New Avenger

669
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: Haickman's New Avengers and Avengers Illuminati and The Time Runs

670
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: Out Timeline will understand that this is a reference to

671
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: the smashing together of various dimensions into the Earth six

672
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: one six dimension and the choices that some of the

673
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: kind of the main superheroes of the six one six units,

674
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: the choices, the hard choices that they have to make

675
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: to save the six one six universe. So, and of

676
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: course we've seen an image of incursions previously, So it

677
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: seems like whatever whatever the effect of all of these

678
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Kangs is, it will be tied up with these potential

679
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: incursions of various dimensions smashing into the definitely.

680
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: And this is gonna lead into you know, this is

681
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: like you know, Kevin Faggie calls it the multiverse saga,

682
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: like this is gonna lead into whatever reason we get

683
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: to secret Wars this is it Kang dynasty. You know,

684
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: he even says it the Kang dynasty, and then Cassie

685
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: like breaks through him. You know, this is our big

686
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: moment where we meet the people who are going to

687
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: cause it, and every single one of them is Jonathan

688
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: Major's and I love it. There's every kind of Jonathan Majors.

689
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 3: They are hyped up. This is like a sports event.

690
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: There's a scroll at the end, who's like, is it

691
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: lizard Kang? Is it? Is it a Kang? Who's a scroll? Like?

692
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: It's very interesting and fun and if you love the

693
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: Council of Kang's and you love these kind of deep

694
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: cut like Marvel cosmic stuff, you'll be very happy with

695
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: that stuff.

696
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very Avengers Forever. It feels like the launch

697
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: time Avengers.

698
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: I definitely think that's the route we're going, especially because

699
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: there's like a really interesting thing here with Hank becoming

700
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: the one who's obsessed with the ants and Scott kind

701
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: of being moved away. Yeah, from the ads. I think

702
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: you know we were talking before this, but you were

703
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: kind of mentioning like some characters that Scot or some

704
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: Monica's Scott could take on aside from app man.

705
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that and in a second after we

706
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: mentioned Stinger number two, So we go back. We go

707
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: back to the early twentieth late nineteenth century. Uh, and

708
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: it's some kind of like you know, traveling showman kind

709
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: of vaudeville kind of set up in somewhere in a

710
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: small theater and a scientist named Victor Timely played by

711
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: played by Jonathan Majors is showing off what he claims

712
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: to be his time machine and in the audience, our

713
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: friends from the Time Variance Authority and elsewhere, mister Mobius

714
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: and Loki are sitting there watching him, and Loki said,

715
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: that's him, That's that's the bad guy, that's King, and

716
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: Mobius is like, are you true? It's great, this seems awesome,

717
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: and then we cut and this very much seems to

718
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: be a trailer for Loki season two. This is going

719
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: to be some sort of Kang launch into the rest

720
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: of the universe. X Ray Vision will be back and

721
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: we're back. Let's talk about our takeaways from this. First,

722
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: we mentioned Avengers Forever. This is a movie that feels

723
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: like heavily edited. We'll talk about that in a second.

724
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Like they definitely moved a lot of the deck chairs

725
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: around all throughout the production process of this movie, it

726
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: seems to me that if they go the Avengers Forever route,

727
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: which we won't spoil but you should read because it's

728
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: very fun. It's really fun. It's twelve issues, it's really great,

729
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: and you'll get a lot of the backstory of Kang

730
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: and Immortis and some of the other Kangs. But in

731
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: that story, Immortis and Kang end up kind of going

732
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: head to head with their own set of allies, and

733
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: Kang is kind of the good guy. Kang kind of

734
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: a lie with the Avengers against Immortis and the things

735
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: that it Mortis wants to do. Which listen, I think

736
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: that I think that Marvel looked at what Jonathan Majors

737
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: is doing and kind of said, how do we make

738
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: him kind of good?

739
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

740
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 1: How can we get a good version of Kang?

741
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: I absolutely agree with you. He's definitely there's so many

742
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: different iterations of the character that throughout history, it would

743
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: be so easy for them to cast a version of Kang,

744
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 3: whether it's Nathaniel Richards, whether it's you know, a tired,

745
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: kind of weary aged Immortis, or whether it is actually Kang.

746
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: The conqueror who comes back and realizes the error of

747
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: his ways, or realizes the only way he can get

748
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: what he wants is to help the Avengers. We're definitely

749
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: going to see a heroic version because Jonathan Majors can

750
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 3: just sell it so hard and literally, Like his performance

751
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: in this movie is so good. I love their final

752
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: episode of Loki is one of my favorite episodes of

753
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: MCUTV because of Jonathan Major's and this movie. His performance

754
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: is so good that you understand why someone would be like,

755
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: he's amazing. Let just build a whole part of a

756
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: franchise around him, Like, let's see what he can do.

757
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: Let's tell us about your Victor Timely theory, which I

758
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: like a lot.

759
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so spoiler alert for Victor Timeley's like seven appearances. Yes,

760
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: as the as the listeners know, I like a strange character.

761
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: So I am a fan of Victor Timeley in the

762
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: comics Victor Timeley, as I mentioned last week when I

763
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: was when I was just talking about Kang variants, and

764
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: I didn't think that Victor Timeley would be in the movie.

765
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: Victor Timeley was a version of Kang who everyone thought

766
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: was dead, and it was to hide in space and time.

767
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: He went back in the past, he went to the

768
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: night he went to like nineteen oh two, and he

769
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: founded this time a town called Timely, Wisconsin, a nice

770
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: reference to the old Marvel comics, And basically he used

771
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: his skills and intelligence and all of the weapon and

772
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: technology that he has known throughout the years to basically

773
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: create a super technological town even though it looked like

774
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: kind of an Old West town. He has a cool

775
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: mustache like Jonathan Major's. So my gut says, if they're

776
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: gonna do this, they will end up doing what they

777
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: did in the comics, which is this is really Kang,

778
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: probably the Kang that we just saw. It's not like

779
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 3: this true, different version of Kang. This is a persona

780
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 3: that Kang puts on to hide. I think the coolest

781
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: thing one because I want him to be in every episode.

782
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: I think that this victor Timely is probably gonna team

783
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: up with Lokiommobius and be like, yes, we must stop

784
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: the other Kangs, like I am just a good old

785
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: time traveler, like yay. But then we're gonna learn at

786
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: some point that he is actually Kang, the conqueror who

787
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: escaped from this part of the quantum realm.

788
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: The thing about Kangs, just as an aside. The thing

789
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: about Kangs and a more included is they are all

790
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: the time plotting against the other tech tanks, like they

791
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: have they are.

792
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 3: Like the pettiest mother. They call these.

793
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: The Council of Cross Time. Can't there everybody show up meanwhile.

794
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: Like they're like they're putting brute to see each other,

795
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: like putting.

796
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Explosives again under one of their seats, like one of

797
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: them they're like planning on stabbing in the clock, like

798
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: they're always, always, always planning against each other. So I

799
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: do I like that. One of the things that we

800
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: talked about is Cassie as stature, and we kind of

801
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: got it in this movie.

802
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, she she turns giant. She has a giant hug

803
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: with her dad. I think it will be really cool

804
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: to see Cassie on her own, like, especially if they's

805
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: established her as this kind of freedom fighter esque, like

806
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: someone with big morals. That could be really good for

807
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: a young Avengers team. It's also going to be interesting

808
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: because early on in the movie and that kind of

809
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: first like really swift ten minutes that sets up the

810
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: quantum rum stuff, Scott is wary of her being a hero,

811
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: and I think that conflict is gonna come into play.

812
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 3: I also think it's interesting because I do think that

813
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: probably Scott is gonna move away from the am Man

814
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: mantle and it will be like Goliath or Giant.

815
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Man, and you may yeah, you know.

816
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: Actually, in memory of Darren Kross, my brother, I have

817
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: to say, look, man, I'm I'm a big Modoc fan,

818
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: a lot of a cosmic beam. I'm not a hundred

819
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sold on the Darren cross Modoc.

820
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: I hope that we will see a different version of

821
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: Modoc in the future, but maybe that's unlikely. It is

822
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: such a weird character to do, so maybe it's one

823
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: of the ones where it's better to just do it

824
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 3: in a unique way. But that to me was the biggest,

825
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: Like that felt like a real solid, like Rick and

826
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: Morty joke, Like you see Modoc and then you're like, yo,

827
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Speaker 3: that's Darren my friend from work. Like that was the

828
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: one where I felt like it really crossed over into

829
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: that rather than being a reflection of all the things

830
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: that inspired Rick and Morty, because I think that's where

831
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: those similarities come across. As Rick and Morty draws so

832
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: heavily from the comics.

833
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the the Rick and Morty of

834
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: it all. So Jeff Loveness, screenwriter behind this, This film,

835
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: of course came up from the Morty pipeline, like so

836
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: many Movel like so many Marvel talents, and it was

837
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: interesting to see people say, oh, man, this is like

838
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: really influenced by Rick and Morty, when in fact, Rick

839
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: mor By this weird shit, by this weird shit, and

840
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: it's just kind of repackaged it.

841
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: The reason there's a Council of Ricks is because there's

842
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: a Council of Kangs like that comes directly from it.

843
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: So it's kind of that interesting cyclic or stuff, especially

844
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: because the sci fi of it all and the pulp

845
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: of it all that's been in the veins of this

846
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: storyline since we were talking about you know, Captain America forty

847
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: three or something like there's some or twenty three or

848
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: something where it's like some old forties comics where pop

849
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: written by a pop writer. So yeah, it was definitely

850
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: interesting to see that the modoc thing was the only

851
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: one for me where I was like, that feels like

852
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: it could be in Rick and Morty. Everything else I

853
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: was like this is just someone who loved playing in

854
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: that playground and with these genre trips, finally getting to

855
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: do it in a way that's actually cannon, which is

856
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: really cool to see. And I love the inclusion of

857
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: like verb, I love like a Weird Monster, And I

858
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: think David does more so good. I missed seeing his

859
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: character from ant Matn, I miss seeing Louise, but I

860
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: understand what the choices, why that they made him, why

861
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: it needed to be this kind of expanded science fiction film.

862
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: I will say so to think about the things that

863
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: were changed, it is I'm pretty sure there's a version

864
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: of this movie where all the secondary characters that you

865
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Speaker 1: meet in the quantum Realm, like Gentro, like veb Black

866
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Quause got a Corg treatment where you learned some of

867
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: their backstory. And it feels like that really hit the

868
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: cutting room floor. And secondarily, and I think this is

869
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: like what people are responding to in some of the

870
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: bad reviews it. I think that if you gave Victoria

871
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: Alonzo and Kevin Feigy like the ability to snap their fingers,

872
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, like Thanos style, and and recreate the reality

873
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 1: the way they wanted to, I think that Kang would

874
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: make his debut in like either an Avengers movie proper

875
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: or thor or somebody or like an A list Yes,

876
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: somebody who is not a man no distruct to a

877
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: man who I love. And I think the first ant

878
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: Man movie is really really fun, and I think the

879
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: briefcase fight is maybe my favorite action scene in all

880
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: of the Marvel movies. I think the second one is good. Uh,

881
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: And I think Scott Lank, you know, fills a very

882
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: specific niche in the MCU. I think if your supposition

883
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: is that Kang he's so scary that Janet doesn't even

884
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: want to talk to about him anymore unless you know,

885
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: fucked him.

886
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: But that's the versional honesty. That was what was on

887
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: the coying room floor for me.

888
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: He is this scary warlord who is is so scary

889
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: that other versions of himself throughout the multiverse scared of him.

890
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Then it's a little bit like, so he got beat

891
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: but the ants, you know, So this is.

892
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: I think another thing that I think people are reacting to.

893
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: You are one hundred percent right in the context of

894
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: the MCU, right, But isn't that like the most common

895
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: book thing ever that Kang would just get beaten by

896
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: some random like lower tier hero who managed to see

897
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: through him. It's so comic booky the same way you

898
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: pointed out after the cinema when I was talking about Modoc,

899
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: you were like, that's so Modoc, Like Modoc will come

900
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: in and just get wiped out and he's just the

901
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: out right And I think in that way, this kind

902
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 3: of same with I found Multiverse of Madness. I think

903
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: when the movies become very similar to the way that

904
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: comic book narratives are told, where they're a little bit

905
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: more like you can be here for a couple of minutes,

906
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 3: and then you're here and some really wild powers happen,

907
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: and the stakes aren't necessarily as emotionally driven and grounded.

908
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: That's not always going to sit well with people who

909
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 3: grew up with Winter Soldier or people who really loved

910
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: the early era of Iron Man. You know, this is

911
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: a very different beast, and I do think that also.

912
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: I wonder this is not a think, it's more of

913
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: a question. I wonder if people who really wanted it

914
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: to feel different from Phase four. I think that also

915
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: might be a bit of a feeling, because this feels

916
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: to me like it's in that same wheel.

917
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: Ho No we're in that multiverse kind of era and

918
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: to that, you know, in that vein. Part of what

919
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: basically all of what makes King so hard to fight

920
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: is that he's got weapons that are a million years

921
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: more advanced than anybody else's because you can time travel.

922
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: He's fought everybody, every version of everybody, and so he's

923
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: like a video game player with endless lives. He just

924
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: like a living cheek code. Yeah, he knows how to

925
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: speed run every fight there is, and then he gets

926
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: beat by the giant super smart ants, which I love.

927
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: That said, it feels like the other thing that makes

928
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: I think people maybe not so satisfied with that ending

929
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: is that you I could see a world in which

930
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: you needed a setup for the ants, like and this

931
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: is going to sound like a joke, but like Anthony

932
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: level character development for the ants, so that there is

933
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: a little bit of journey when the ants show up

934
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: and merk ca.

935
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: Ants, No, this is what this is me. This is

936
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: what I would have done. This would have been my

937
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 3: bit that ended up on the you know, the chopping

938
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: room floor. I would say this. It's like the ants

939
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: were so technologically advanced that they knew about Kang, they

940
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: knew that he had this power and they basically hid

941
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: their identity from him in every universe so they could

942
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: beat him in this one universe. You could have like

943
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: a thirty second to one minute kind of bit about

944
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: something like that. But like you said, I really felt

945
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: that the first two acts there was a lot of

946
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: I felt like maybe like a bit of puzzling putting together,

947
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: where there was probably a little bit more time spent

948
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: with each character.

949
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: I do think you need that ant piece because you know,

950
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: it begs the question in future fights with King, can

951
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: you just always beat in with ants? Can we go

952
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: back to the Quanta ram and get the ants? Hang

953
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: nts we're at the.

954
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: Dude in like in like four years, we'll like we'll

955
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: be like, oh shit, the ants they came back, like

956
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: the Dux Macana.

957
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Like beating the fucking ship out of all that.

958
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: Shans has come back. He's on that side. It's him

959
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: and Adam Willock and then just Theo's.

960
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: Like heck the ads and it's like, oh yeah, the.

961
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: Ads they come up like the Lost of Us.

962
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, that's part of it that the

963
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: movie is getting absolutely crushed on rotten tomatoes, which I

964
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: think is I do think it's part of what you're saying.

965
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: This is a very common this is this is a

966
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: six issue arc that I would read in a comic,

967
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: and I think it is. It's it's if you're not

968
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: in love with this world, it might be a little

969
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: difficult to deal with the other stuff. There's some critiques

970
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: like of like Michael Douglas sleepwalking through this movie. I

971
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: thought Michael Douglas was great. I think if you're gonna

972
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: like to me, it's definitely not a a like an

973
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Odin level, literally an like Odin actually sleeps through his role.

974
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, babe, iconic like that's.

975
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: Part of his character is for large chunks of the movie.

976
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: He's he's he's just like he's a dying.

977
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm dead, babe. Okay, So currently is that

978
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: fifty two percent when we recorded this, which is five

979
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 3: percent higher than eternals. So will it become the lowest

980
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 3: straight MC A movie. I mean, we're on Tomorrow's. It's

981
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: just subjective. It's just a bunch of different craics. I

982
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: end up on there sometimes, you know, it's a bunch

983
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: of different critics who come together. I was very happy

984
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: to see when I was checking the titles on tomorrow

985
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: school seventy seven percent audience people are.

986
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: Coming around, they're learning the Good Book of the Eternals

987
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: and club. You know what, I need to watch it again.

988
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: I watch it, watch it. I need to watch it

989
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: again because I will say that I liked. And then

990
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: in the last Quantuminia is significantly more in the theater

991
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: than I did initially the Eternals, which is now, as

992
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned, climbing the ranks of the Toma, the audience,

993
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: the audience scores of the Tomato machine. But that's it.

994
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: It is a wild working movie.

995
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: If you love that MC you're gonna be happy. It's

996
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 3: a wild MCU ride. Jonathan Majors Jonathan Major's Jonathan Major's

997
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: Jonathan Major's I like your prediction. I feel like when

998
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: we get like, you know, Kang Dynasty, it surprises us all.

999
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: It's like not an Avengers movie. It's just like a

1000
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: solo Jonathan Major's Kang movie. That's definitely gonna be the Oscar.

1001
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: I see it in his future.

1002
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: Kang is there, all the Kangs, the Avengers are routed

1003
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: and then you hear on your left and their portals

1004
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: open and it's ants every Actually.

1005
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say before I think we hear

1006
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: every other we were right. But the one thing I

1007
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: want to say last week, when Jason did his very

1008
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: good MCU timeline of the ant Man family and I

1009
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: was kind of peppering in some little comic book footnotes,

1010
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 3: one thing that we did have a lot of fun

1011
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: talking about was how much Hank loves ants. Yeah, so

1012
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: I've basically taken that as we were right, because that

1013
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: has not been a part of the MCU in the

1014
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: way that it was in this movie. So I'm saying,

1015
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1016
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: We were let the ants like colonize the Savage Land

1017
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: and let them just like live there. And that's a

1018
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: free idea for Kevin fi.

1019
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, free with royalties Up next nerd Out.

1020
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: In today's that out where you tell us what you

1021
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: love them why, or a theory that you're excited shout,

1022
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: which you know we love to hear, Grant tells us

1023
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 3: a very relevant theory about he who remains from season

1024
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: one of Loki, and Grant actually sent multiple emails to

1025
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: explain this theory. So Jason, I'll let you do the reading.

1026
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: Here's great. I was watching the finale of Loki again

1027
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: before Quantumnia comes out. And something that always bugged me

1028
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: that we didn't know was that we didn't know where

1029
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: He who Remains Palace is. I've always thought that the

1030
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: end of the Multiverse saga would find us back with

1031
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: He who Remains at his palace, which is which led

1032
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: to my theory, He who Remains Palace is located on

1033
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: the ruins of Battle.

1034
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 3: I love that.

1035
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: That's actually really cool. Also, He who Remains says he

1036
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: won the Multiverse Award by taming aliof What if the

1037
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: Snaplke event at the end of King Dynasty and the

1038
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: lead into Secret Wars is he who Remains unleashing AliOS

1039
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: on the multiverse. One okay, sorry, one last thing. What

1040
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: if the question of which timeline will become the Sacred

1041
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: Timeline is what Secret Wars is fought over? Oh that's wow.

1042
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: All of Earth's mightiest heroes brought from all the timelines

1043
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: to figure out which one is secret.

1044
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm like, get hired because that's think about that.

1045
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: That kind of takes my very good Kevin FIGI hire

1046
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: the idea of Deadpool being like hied by the TVA

1047
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: to kill off all the timelines. I like this version better,

1048
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: where It's almost like all of them have to come

1049
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 3: together to fight alongside. But as they're doing it, they

1050
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: realize the only thing they can do is save one timeline,

1051
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: and they all basically have to choose which one. That

1052
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: would be really really interesting.

1053
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: I think that is really cool. I particularly like that

1054
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: the He who Remains Palace is built on the ruins.

1055
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: That is really cool.

1056
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of us, like a lot

1057
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 3: of people had thought like, is it is the quantum realm?

1058
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: Like I had a lot of people DM me asking

1059
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: me if that was something that they thought could happen.

1060
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 3: And I really liked that theory. But that one is

1061
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: really exciting to me because I like the idea that

1062
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: his ruins are in the remain of something that has

1063
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: already happened for him, but that we don't know about.

1064
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: That's very key. And just for those of you who

1065
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: are aren't familiar with Secret Wars of Bad World, basically

1066
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: in a post incursion world, the universe is remade by

1067
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: Doctor Doom, who creates this battle planet that is ruled

1068
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: by you know, by these different warlords and these different

1069
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: fiftoms where kind of every universe exists on one globe

1070
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: on one globe. There's a universe of thors, there's a

1071
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: universe beyond the wall, et cetera, etcetera, universe of zombies, yeah, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,

1072
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: all in one planet. That's a really cool that's a

1073
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: really cool theory. Grant, Thank you so much.

1074
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the best. Thanks so much, Grant. And

1075
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: if you have a theory like Grant or passions that

1076
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: you want to share, like so many of our other

1077
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: awesome nerd outs, hit us up at x ray at

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Speaker 3: crooked dot com. As always find those instructions in show notes.

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Speaker 1: That is it for us, Rosie and he plugs.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Read the stuff that I've written about a man.

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Speaker 3: If you want to know about Modoc, the real version,

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Speaker 3: not the Darren Cross version. I're at a big explainer IGN.

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Speaker 3: I have a cover story for Den of Geek that

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Speaker 3: you can now read, and it has some cool interviews

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Speaker 3: with people like Helen Mirren and Lucy lou That was

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Speaker 3: incredibly cool, Rachel Zegler, who was just total delight. Who

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Speaker 3: are going to be playing the villainesses in Shazam. I

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Speaker 3: also interviewed the director and the lead of that movie,

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Speaker 3: so you can pick that up A Comic Shop, or

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Speaker 3: you can read it online and Rosie marks at Instagram

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Speaker 3: and letterbox. That's where you can find me other than

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Speaker 3: here every week twice.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the fact that we are now dropping

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Speaker 1: twice a week Wednesday and Fridays in your podcast feed,

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Speaker 1: we are proud to announce that x ray Vision merch

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Speaker 1: is available at the Cricket Store. That's right. You can

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Speaker 1: get an x ray Vision was right t shirt. You

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Speaker 1: can get the t shirt a little wizard guy on it,

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Speaker 1: just chin. You can get all menner of x ray

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Speaker 1: Vision merch at the Cricket Store. Now, some housekeeping, we're

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Speaker 1: taking this coming Wednesday, February twenty second off because of

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Speaker 1: President's Day, which is Monday, but like, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: That's when we record. That's just for us. That means

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Speaker 1: our next episode is going to be Friday, February twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: We'll be covering the last of us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you'd like to see us with your

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Speaker 3: eyeballs as well as your ear holes, you can subscribe

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Speaker 3: on YouTube, where we now have full episodes of the show.

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Speaker 3: If you want to follow us on Twitter, it's at

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Speaker 3: XRV pod, where we retweet cool stuff and share stuff

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Speaker 3: about the show and talk to our fans. And speaking

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Speaker 3: of talking to fans, you can come to our discord,

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Speaker 3: which is absolutely amazing and has a ton of great

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Speaker 3: people in that bunch of great channels, all different spaces,

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Speaker 3: talk about your fandoms, and me and Jasoner in that too.

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Speaker 1: Five star ratings, five star reviews. We need them, we

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Speaker 1: love them, we got to have them. Here's one from

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Speaker 1: student at a community college. Hilarious. Jow never fails to

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Speaker 1: make me laugh. Their creators are extremely knowledgeable about their

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Speaker 1: top and their interviewees are always interesting. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much doing in your community college. X ray Vision is

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Speaker 1: a Crooked Media production. The show is produced by Chris

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Speaker 1: Lord and Saul Rubin. The show is executive produced by

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Speaker 1: myself and Sandy Rhard are editing and sound designers by

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Speaker 1: Facilli's Photopoulos. Dilon Villanueva and Matt de Group provide video

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Speaker 1: production support. Alex Rella for handle social media. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Brian Vasquez for theme music. See you next time, Janet

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Speaker 1: fuck King