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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September sixteenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number twenty four. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Board studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. We've got Dave Amber at the Star as

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Speaker 1: well in different locations. Also have our special guests Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: who is joining us again this week. He'll be on

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Speaker 1: with us every week on Wednesdays and Thursdays. He'll give

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Speaker 1: us some analysis on the upcoming opponent. This week, obviously,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the Atlanta Falcons. A little later in

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Speaker 1: the show, though, we'll have a few things we got

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Speaker 1: to get into. We got some transactions that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: made yesterday, a little report that just came out that

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Speaker 1: segment as well. And then we'll have a little bit

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Speaker 1: more conversation later in the show around the Cowboys defense

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Speaker 1: and what we saw from them last week and how

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Speaker 1: they prepare for next week. So no further Ado. Let's

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Speaker 1: welcome in Bucky Brooks from NFL Network. Bucky, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, hey man, thanks for having me on. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's let's jump right in. I had a couple of

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Speaker 1: big picture question for you. Just as you look at

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta offense, talk to me about what you think

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Speaker 1: is their greatest strength, and then what you think is

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Speaker 1: their greatest weakness. Their best strength, the biggest strength, and

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Speaker 1: their skill players. They are loaded at the perimeter positions,

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Speaker 1: three ward receivers that can play Calvin Riley, Julio Jones,

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Speaker 1: Russell Gage has emerged, Tid Gurley in the bad Feel

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Speaker 1: when healthy is one of the best running backs that

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Speaker 1: you're seeing. And then you have a former MVP and

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, so their offense is loaded with a fireprower.

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Speaker 1: I would say the biggest weakness is upfront. They have

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Speaker 1: struggled in the past being able to dominate people at

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Speaker 1: wanting to be a physical offense, they're a little more

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Speaker 1: finesse in the way they're constructed at the line of scrimmage. Now,

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Speaker 1: after week one of watching this first game of the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: obviously we notice many many struggles in the defense. What

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Speaker 1: is something an area that the Cowboys can actually improve

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Speaker 1: within just one week when they get ready to face

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. I think the big thing Nanda mcnolan has

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Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint. They have to dominate each and

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Speaker 1: every week up front at the line of scrimmage. The

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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence has to be a five star player. He

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Speaker 1: guy that sets the table all this. Smith gave tremendous

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Speaker 1: against the run. Everything Griffin is still settling in. But

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Speaker 1: the biggest area where the Cowboys have to improve, they

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Speaker 1: don't expect the secondary to hold up each and every week.

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Speaker 1: With the young guys did they have, So they have

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is easy. I think Julio

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Speaker 1: He's big, he's fast, he's physical, he's an outstanding route runner.

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Speaker 1: When you studied the numbers from Matt Ryan's performance against

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Speaker 1: And are they still talking about that in Atlanta all week? Well,

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Speaker 1: team has not made an official statement, so not sure

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Speaker 1: if that's officially what happened or actually what happened, But

431
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: just according to this report, six weeks, which would get

432
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Speaker 1: him back about mid October. It doesn't matter where, like when,

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Speaker 1: what the timeline is. If he's not ready to go

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Speaker 1: two weeks from now, that's concerning, which that was always

435
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Speaker 1: going to be a possibility. And if you think about

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Speaker 1: the timelines, Mike McCarthy said today, probably four to six

437
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: weeks for cam Irving and so now we're here in

438
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe six weeks for Sean Lee. So it

439
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: makes sense that they would go get Smith and Light.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to be able to help

441
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, but they can help you account for that,

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00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, over the next month or so. But hell, yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: it's concerning. Yeah, I mean, all of a sudden, these

444
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Speaker 1: three positions you throw in the tight end with it

445
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: history positions, I think are are really really problems with

446
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: this team because I don't think they have number one,

447
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: a person that could step into those roles that have

448
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: now been been lost, and even their depth, I don't

449
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: think they have much depth at those positions. And so

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Speaker 1: I think all three of them I'm concerned about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I mean I'm more concerned. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned about that. With with Chun Lee, I'm just

453
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Speaker 1: kind of frustrated by that, I mean, did that help

454
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Speaker 1: the Rams? I mean, did that help you? I mean, like,

455
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Speaker 1: just just say it. I mean, this is this is

456
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Speaker 1: a prominent player who's been in the Pro Bowl twice,

457
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Speaker 1: he's one of the team leaders. He's having surgery in Philadelphia.

458
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: I mean Terrence Newman had the same surgery surgery in

459
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and it was reported right then.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who cares? I mean, I just don't understand

461
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Maybe during the week if you

462
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Speaker 1: don't want to say that a player is playing so

463
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: much and it's a different running back or a different quarterback,

464
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: I get it. But you've got you know, you've got

465
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Speaker 1: a a really good player and a good person that

466
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Speaker 1: is working. You know, he's worked so hard to get

467
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: through injuries. He's got another injury. Why don't I just

468
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Speaker 1: say it? I'm not I'm missing that part. I don't

469
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: get it. He's going to Philadelphia for surgery. That's not

470
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Speaker 1: the end of the world to report that. I just

471
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: don't know why they wouldn't do that. Yeah, am I

472
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Speaker 1: missing something here? I mean what I mean, obviously there

473
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Speaker 1: are there are things that helps Sean McVay, Like, oh man,

474
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Speaker 1: we thought Sean Lee was going to be out there

475
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Speaker 1: but Philly. But I do think that they would probably

476
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Speaker 1: make the argument, right or wrong. I think they would

477
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Speaker 1: probably make the argument that, you know, we don't necessarily

478
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Speaker 1: need every team knowing that, because the longer we hold

479
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: that information, there may be another team that's thinking of

480
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Speaker 1: they're trying to look for I mean, sorry, linebackers on

481
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Speaker 1: another practice squad that may if they know that we're

482
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Speaker 1: looking for him, it kind of maybe accelerates that. Right,

483
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: It's those kind of things we're Again what we all

484
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Speaker 1: know from covering this team and covering the NFL is

485
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: coaches live in a whole different world, like their mindset is,

486
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: it's just the whole different world, and the things they

487
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Speaker 1: worry about are things that a lot of points that

488
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Speaker 1: would be you worry about something like you got much

489
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Speaker 1: bigger things to worry about. It If you're thinking that

490
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Speaker 1: far ahead, I mean, there's a problem there because your

491
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Speaker 1: focus should be somewhere else. Well, I think it's it's

492
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Speaker 1: all a part of it. And again, it may not

493
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Speaker 1: be the same person. Maybe this is people who are

494
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Speaker 1: more responsible for personnel who would prefer that not to

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Speaker 1: be out there than maybe the head coach all I'm

496
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Speaker 1: saying is we know from covering this team and covering

497
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Speaker 1: the NFL, they aren't the only people that think like that.

498
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams around the NFL that

499
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Speaker 1: try very hard to keep everything behind closed doors because

500
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Speaker 1: the point is they don't want to give anything away

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Speaker 1: and possibly risk that they lose something that they want

502
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Speaker 1: to be able to or some advantage that they would

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Speaker 1: have in whatever decision that they want to make. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just part of It's part of how football coaches

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Speaker 1: do it, you know. Yeah, the same coaches that still

506
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Speaker 1: cover their mouth when they when they try to call

507
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Speaker 1: play with a mask on and they're covering right Like,

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Speaker 1: It's just that's how football coaches are. Football personnel people

509
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Speaker 1: are part of ball coach though, Yeah, maybe it's not.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not reflecting so right, Dave. I was just

511
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Speaker 1: gonna be it's not reflecting in the standings through one week,

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Speaker 1: so I'll see how it goes. That's going for you.

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Speaker 1: Those those numberless numberless practice, numberless practice there that didn't

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Speaker 1: really help out too much. But anyway, Nah, all right,

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Speaker 1: into the Cowboys defense had some interesting numbers coming out

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Speaker 1: of that first week of games, and I want to

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Speaker 1: throw them at you guys and get some opinions on

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Speaker 1: what you think that maybe these things mean in the

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Speaker 1: Back to the Break, Welcome Back. It is the final

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Speaker 1: What I want to do is I have some some

562
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: interesting little tidbits about this defense that I noticed from

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Speaker 1: the game last week, and I want to throw those

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Speaker 1: out at you, and then we're gonna talk about some

565
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: of the things that they Oh what those things mean

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Speaker 1: in your minds? Last week, Cowboys were twelve in scoring defense,

567
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Speaker 1: only allowing twenty points. Buck You mentioned that in the

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Speaker 1: segment we did with him about the fact that even

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Speaker 1: though they gave up a lot of yards, didn't give

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Speaker 1: up a lot of points. They were twenty eight though

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Speaker 1: in the number of yards allowed at four hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Did we mis evaluate how they played because

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Speaker 1: it looked so bad at the start, knowing the fact

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Speaker 1: that they did bend quite a bit as far as

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Speaker 1: the number of yards it gave up, but did still

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Speaker 1: hold this team to twenty points. Let's start first with you,

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Speaker 1: Nick Well, I just they didn't make enough plays. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's the same goes with the offense. I mean that, yeah,

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00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: they had their moments that they got into turnover, but

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00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: when they needed to make a stop with them pushed

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Speaker 1: back like that, that's what that McCarthy was counting on.

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00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: He was counting on that. He was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: if we don't make it here, we at least we

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00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: got him pushed back. But until they weren't pushed back anymore.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's not just Dak and the offense

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Speaker 1: that didn't have them up with clutch moments. It was

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00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: the It was the defense as well. So in a

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00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: game like that, I mean, they needed to be better.

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00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily their fault. They thought maybe they thought

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00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: the offense would scored more points, but they didn't. When

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00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: they were really counted on to go make a play,

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Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't make it, at least not with

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Speaker 1: enough time. The Rams got too far and flipped the

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Speaker 1: field before they got the ball back. Hamber, dave you

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Speaker 1: go ahead first, before I opened my mouth and started

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Speaker 1: highly criticized. Yes, no, Derek, I'm freaking buying it. Derek Um.

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00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, give some credit where it's due

598
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: the Rams scored seven points in the second half. Like

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Speaker 1: the defense did become a little bit more reliable as

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00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: the game went along. But this isn't one of those

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Speaker 1: circumstances where you can say, oh, if you cut out

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Speaker 1: the one long run. They did this, like they allowed

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Speaker 1: the Rams to run twenty five plays I think in

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Speaker 1: the first like eight minutes of the game. Like the

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00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Rams just absolutely marched the field twice in a row completely,

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Speaker 1: and that alters the flow of the entire game because

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Speaker 1: it's gonna wear your defense out, it's gonna swing time

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Speaker 1: and possession. It's obviously going to give the Rams two

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Speaker 1: opportunities and scoring right off the bat. Like, you can't

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Speaker 1: do that. You can't. You cannot just be that inept

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Speaker 1: for that long to start a game. So yeah, they

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00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: definitely got their act together. Um, but that doesn't that

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Speaker 1: doesn't do enough to excuse how unprepared they were for

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Speaker 1: the start of the game. Am I the only one

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Speaker 1: who thinks that the Rams didn't play that well either? Like,

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Speaker 1: that's how I see it right now, I see it that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: obviously the Rams got the win and they made it happen.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, looking at the

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Speaker 1: game as a whole. I didn't think the offense did

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Speaker 1: that great of a job. So in my mind, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that the Cowboys deep offense where trying to

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Speaker 1: stop this amazing offense that's just eating up yards and

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Speaker 1: scoring points. I think that it's just they could have

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00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: done a lot better. They didn't. Obviously, the score doesn't

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00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: necessarily fully reflect all their faults there that they made.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I just don't think that

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Speaker 1: we're playing against this great, amazing team. You know. I'll

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Speaker 1: say this though, Amber, I kind of disagree with you

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Speaker 1: a bit on that. I do think the Rams play

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Speaker 1: well for the game plan that they had. I think

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Speaker 1: their game plan coming in was, we want to control

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Speaker 1: the clock, which means that we're gonna play this short,

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00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: quick game, and that means that they're gonna be some

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00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: drives that they're gonna stall out. They're gonna be some drives.

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Speaker 1: We'll drive the field. We'll get a touchdown, there'll be

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Speaker 1: someone we'll drive the field, we'll get a field goal.

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Speaker 1: The point is, if we keep their offense off the

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Speaker 1: field and we keep their defense on the field as

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00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: the game wears on, we think we can come away

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Speaker 1: with more points than they can because they are a

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Speaker 1: volume offense. So I think they actually played perfectly within

642
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: the context of what they have to do. Now, will

643
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: that work against every team the team's got a good defense,

644
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: probably not, But a team like this where the Cowboys

645
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: are a little limited on defense, I think it was

646
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: a perfect and especially having such a great offense, I

647
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: think it was a really great game plan. I think

648
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: they played it well. What do you guys think it

649
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: worked for them? I just I just I feel like

650
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: I saw mistakes that they made that had had their

651
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: game being a lot more clean, they would have been

652
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot better. And I guess that can apply to

653
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: everyone in the NFL, but I just feel that the

654
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: Rams didn't give the best that they could. But regardless,

655
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: it worked on their benefit and they made it work

656
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: and won the game. But the way I saw it,

657
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: I feel like they had the ability to play a

658
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: lot better than they did. I gotcha, I think. I mean,

659
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: if the Rams had played up to their potential, they

660
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: should have had that game in hand with five minutes

661
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: to play. You think about obviously, they missed an easy

662
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: field goal and then Sean McVay made two or three

663
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: really questionable decisions that I thought killed a couple of drives.

664
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean, credit to the Cowboys for stopping it, but

665
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why in the hell you run a

666
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: toss dive on third and short, and I don't know

667
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: why you don't go for it with the way that

668
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: you were playing when you have fourth and short. I

669
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: think the ball was pretty close to midfield. So I

670
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: agree with you the Rams. They could have played better,

671
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: but they played well enough to win. Yeah. I think

672
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: in Week one you probably saw that around the league

673
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of teams that probably could

674
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: have played a little bit better without having preseason games.

675
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: But again, I think they played played within the context

676
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: of what their game plan was, and I think they

677
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: executed it pretty well. Here's a question from standpoint of

678
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: long term. Do you think that in most weeks, if

679
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense can hold to twenty, the Cowboys will

680
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: be a successful team overall? Nicholas start with you, Yeah,

681
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think so. I mean, I'd like to

682
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: think the offense is going to get in gearing and

683
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: get and get better. You'd like to say that, you know,

684
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: the injuries will help getting you know, if you can

685
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: get some of those guys back on the offensive line,

686
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: get Layout Collins back. Obviously, you got to figure out

687
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do it tight end. But yeah, I

688
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: think I think twenty is a pretty good number there.

689
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: If you know, for this team, they can they can

690
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: get I think the offense is shown that they would

691
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: be able to get more than that. But you know

692
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: the Rams to what they were saying about the Rams,

693
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: you know they they live off their defense. I mean

694
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: they have the best defensive player in the NFL, and

695
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: so you know, I think, you know, going for it

696
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: on fourth down or not going for it, it's like, well,

697
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: we rely on our defense. And I think McCarthy's still

698
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: trying to figure out his team. I think he was

699
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: relying on that defense to stop him down there and

700
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. So he's gonna we hear it all

701
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: the time. Brian brought Us says it once a week.

702
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: You gotta coaches have to know their team, they have

703
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: to trust their team. He's still trying to figure out

704
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: what he's got on his team. Amber twenty points enough,

705
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: I think so absolutely. I think that that just it's

706
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna depend on the offense and then doing their part

707
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: scoring points. I think that seventeen points for this offense.

708
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not enough, but looking at the talent that

709
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: they have, I still believe that they should be able

710
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: to score a lot more than they did in this game.

711
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, right now, I

712
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: think that they'll be able to create the right balance

713
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: there to get wins. But yeah, twenty points, if the

714
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: defense can hold them to that, I think it'll be fine. Dave.

715
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: If twenty points isn't enough, then what are we even

716
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: doing here? Like? Why? Like, just if twenty points isn't

717
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: enough on a regular basis, just let me know now

718
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: and I'll take an early vacation. I'm so serious. Because

719
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback wants forty mill, the running backs make a

720
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: ninety mill, the offensive line has been to a billion

721
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. One of the receivers is up for is

722
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: on one hundred mill and then a first round pick. Like,

723
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: how is twenty points not enough? This team should be

724
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: scoring at least three touchdowns on a reliable basis. They

725
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: should be flirting with thirty more often than not. And

726
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: you know this guy's not falling because that didn't happen

727
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: Week one, And honestly, I'm encouraged that I mean they

728
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't translate it into points because they couldn't

729
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: convert third downs, But all of the hallmarks of a

730
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: good offense were still there. I mean, Zeke looked great,

731
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Dak looked great, the receiver, the big three combined for

732
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: two hundred receiving yards and that was with shoddy protection.

733
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: So I'm still optimistic that they'll get there. But if

734
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: this team can't reliably score twenty one or more points,

735
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: then just let me know now so I can do

736
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: something else. And I agree with that. I think at

737
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the question will be was

738
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: the twenty points that the defense gave up? Was that

739
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: because at one point there wasn't really a lot for

740
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: like the Rams. He'd fact, they had to start airing

741
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: it out like we saw with Atlanta here in their

742
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And if they were in that kind of situation,

743
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: would they give up a ton more points to a

744
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: better offense? Right, That's the part that that does concern

745
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: me a bit. But I think twenty points should be

746
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: enough on most weeks. If this offense is what we

747
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: think it's what it is, it should be. The thing is,

748
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: who on the Rams offense is gonna make the Pro Bowl.

749
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody makes the Pro Bowl on that team.

750
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: They have some guys that have the probably Woods. Yeah,

751
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's just a matter of they could. They could,

752
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: but they probably won't. I mean, you gotta be one

753
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: of the top four receivers. I don't think they will.

754
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: We've seen it, We've seen it happen. Last one is

755
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: it'll get a lot tougher for that defense, And it

756
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: gets tougher in about four days now. They don't. It

757
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: won't be as hard on on defense, I mean for

758
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: their offense because they don't have Aaron Donald on every week.

759
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it gets tougher than Jared Goff

760
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: to Robert Woods. With Cam Acres running the ball these

761
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: next two weeks, it's going to be tougher. Yeah, I

762
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: disagree slightly. I mean I do agree, like defending Atlanta

763
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: and Seattle is probably going to be tougher than what

764
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: they went up against. But that offense was a machine

765
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen and dealt with a lot of injuries

766
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: last year. And I'll say it for the tenth time,

767
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't think the world of Jared Goff, but that

768
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: combination of the continuity that they have, plus Sean McVeigh,

769
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: that offense is a well oiled machine, like there ain't

770
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: any shame and giving up, you know, four hundred yards

771
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: to those guys. I mean that was the offense They

772
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: went down to Mexico City against Kansas City and combined

773
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: for like one hundred and fifty points. Like, those guys

774
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: aren't slouches at all, So it will it will get tougher,

775
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: but that's still a really good offense. All right. Let's

776
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: move on to the next topic. Cowboys were twenty fourth

777
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: in passing yards allowed with two hundred and sixty nine.

778
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: There were twenty seven the rushing yards allows on one

779
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three. Which do you think is a

780
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: bigger problem for the Cowboys defense as you see it

781
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: right now, the run defense or their pass defense. Let's

782
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: start first with you, Dave pass because I mean, Jalen

783
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: Smith deserves plenty of criticism, but one strength of his

784
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: game is defending the run. DeMarcus Lawrence is good against

785
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: the run. Everson Griffin and you know, like I brought

786
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: up with Bucky, they gave up a lot of rushing yards,

787
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: but the average was fine. I think a lot of

788
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: that is a product of trailing for a lot of

789
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: that game. So that doesn't concern me as much as

790
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: a the pass rush didn't look great on Sunday night,

791
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: and be you know, we knew going into this season

792
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: that the secondary was going to be a problem or

793
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: at least a week spot, and you know, I didn't

794
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: see anything on Sunday that changed my mind about that.

795
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: Amber That's a tough one for me. I mean, they're

796
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: equally as important, but and I know we have it's

797
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: a new season, and every new season you just never

798
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: know how the team is going to fully change compared

799
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: to last year. But I just can't forget those games

800
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: from last year where they were killed by running backs

801
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: who basically had no, like very little experience in the NFL,

802
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: and yet they were able to just get them and

803
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: kill them and score points and lose games because of that.

804
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: So to me, I think that's an area that I'm

805
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: still kind of focusing on and keeping my eye on,

806
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: and I'm leaning more towards the rush defense. But uh,

807
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: they're both, they're both the problem. Sorry, I mean, yeah,

808
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: she's right about that. Yeah, they're both they're both problems.

809
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I would say I trust Mike Nolan to do a

810
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: better job of getting them in position to stop the run.

811
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: If your secondary is just not good and the guys

812
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: just can't cover, then there's not much you could really do.

813
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you can try to get a past, you

814
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: can blitz and all that stuff, But I mean, if

815
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: they still can't cover that well, that you know they're

816
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: only gonna get you know, the eighty ninety yard touchdowns

817
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: thrown on them. So I think that I trust the

818
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: run defense a little better than I trust the past

819
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: defense at this point. All right, Atlanta was second in

820
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: offense last week with five or twenty two yards. As

821
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in the show, they were first in

822
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: passing offense with four hundred and thirty four yards. They

823
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: had three wide receivers catch this three wide receivers had

824
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 1: nine catches and one hundred plus yards in their Week

825
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: one game against the Seattle Seahawks. So we have a

826
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: pretty good defense. That all being said, do you think

827
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have enough good defenders to match up against Julio, Ridley,

828
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: Gauge and even Hurst who had a nice downfield catch

829
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: last last week at the tight end position. They have

830
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: enough defenders to defend those guys. Let's start with you day.

831
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, Nick, I mean I'm no offense

832
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to the game. But I think that I think the

833
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: stats and where the rankings are just way way early,

834
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: just because you know, it's just one game and it

835
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: was they don't want that, like they don't want three

836
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: catch three guys, but nine. They don't want to be

837
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: second in passing yards because that means they got their

838
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: ass kicked. And so we saw the last year with

839
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: all the das numbers, it's because they were a lot

840
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: of it was hollow. So um to answer the question, yeah,

841
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think they do, but it's on the

842
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. It's the offense gonna score

843
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: points to put them in position to be like that.

844
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: I think. I think it all comes back to the offense.

845
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: It's all about playing for your strength, and so I

846
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: think if the offense does their job, yes, the defense

847
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: I think can be good enough to stop that atlanted offense. Canberra.

848
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: Can you repeat your question again? It was a little

849
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: confusing to me. Do the Cowboys have enough defenders to

850
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: stop the offensive weapons for the Falcons? And look, you

851
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: know the stats what you name I'm like, I was thinking,

852
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, shouldn't that have been the Cowboys. Shouldn't

853
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: we have had those numbers here in the first week,

854
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: but oh well, three thousand yard receivers were on a

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Speaker 1: great path right now. But anyways, I think that it's

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Speaker 1: just going back to your defensive line, Derek, that you

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Speaker 1: keep talking about where it needs to start, where they

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Speaker 1: need to create pressure, hoping because that's where I feel

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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys currently have the most talent on defense,

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Speaker 1: so I think that it absolutely needs to start there.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the Marcus Lawrence elevates his game this week with

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Speaker 1: the help of Alden Smith, who thankfully at least had

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Speaker 1: a nice game last week. But I'm just hoping to

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Speaker 1: rely more this week on the pass rush and get

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Speaker 1: those guys putting some pressure there in order to help

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Speaker 1: those secondary players in the back and just trying to

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Speaker 1: stop a guy like Julia Jones is gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough, so they're gonna definitely need to

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Speaker 1: get help from every single guy on defense, Dave. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna criticize dak to no end for putting

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Speaker 1: up garbage time stats, we gotta I mean, you gotta

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Speaker 1: look at the context of this because Atlanta didn't start

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Speaker 1: going off until they were down thirty one to twelve

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Speaker 1: in that game. I think that's worth noting. But they

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Speaker 1: still have all that talent, and yet no, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Dallas defense is equipped to hold

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Speaker 1: them down. And that goes back to the point of,

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Speaker 1: you know, ideally, if you tell me I can hold

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Speaker 1: them to twenty four twenty eight against that offense. I

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Speaker 1: would like to think the Cowboys offense can be better.

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Speaker 1: You know, Atlanta's defense will you know, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: them tomorrow, but they look terrible against Russell Wilson. So

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm counting on the Dallas offense to be able

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Speaker 1: to score thirty one thirty five points in this game.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's ambitious after watching them score seventeen, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're winning this game unless you score in

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Speaker 1: the high twenties. Yeah, I will say this. I don't

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Speaker 1: work the thirties preferably. Yeah, I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys cornerbacks really were challenged very much last week,

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Speaker 1: and I certainly don't think they were the biggest part

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Speaker 1: of the problem for the Dallas defense. I think I

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Speaker 1: had a much bigger problem with their defensive tackles, much

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Speaker 1: bigger problem with the linebackers in some degree, a much

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Speaker 1: bigger problem with their safeties, particularly in run support, than

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Speaker 1: I'd get with the cornerbacks last week. But again I

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Speaker 1: don't think they were challenged nearly as much. And again

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Speaker 1: I understand the numbers can can skew that way, and

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Speaker 1: it's because it's just when we sample size. But I

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Speaker 1: think any of us are disputing the fact that those

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Speaker 1: particularly those two top wide receivers, are great talents and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a handful for the secondary to be

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Speaker 1: able to manage. All Right, we appreciate you guys joined us.

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