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Speaker 2: Electric to have you on the podcast. Listen.
Speaker 1: So when were first We're kind of just sitting here,
Speaker 1: Mosy Rampson small talk words about being a secondary re
Speaker 1: black belt was thrown around, and I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people like to lie about that.
Speaker 2: Is this true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's true. When I was younger, I
Speaker 3: delved in that. Yes, I was. You know, I think
Speaker 3: I quit when I was a teenager.
Speaker 2: Are we talking in high school? Your second degree black
Speaker 2: belt in high school?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, you were being the ship out of kids then,
Speaker 2: well a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, at some point when you.
Speaker 1: Started getting you know, that kind of skilled, that kind
Speaker 1: of expertise in the karate world, was there a point
Speaker 1: where you're like your sense a was like, hey, you
Speaker 1: can't be using this in other kids.
Speaker 4: Most definitely, you know, you know the old cong Fu movies'
Speaker 4: you know where the guys like go and rip out
Speaker 4: some of his heart, take a bite out and stuff.
Speaker 3: That was kind of that's kind of stuff I was
Speaker 3: kind of into.
Speaker 5: So, so some context before you get into it. Ex
Speaker 5: recruited me out of high school. We spent three years
Speaker 5: together before he dipped on us and went to the
Speaker 5: University of Indiana.
Speaker 2: Disgusting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, tears in his eyes, tears in all the backer's
Speaker 5: eyes when he tells us bull practice that he's.
Speaker 2: Leaving and going to coach Indiana.
Speaker 5: It was hartbat before you guys even played the ball game,
Speaker 5: before we played the ball game.
Speaker 2: Yes, do you love your players?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Big time?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And these ones just weren't good enough for you. You
Speaker 2: had to go to Indiana.
Speaker 4: I just had a room full of NFL linebackers. I
Speaker 4: was like, shoot, man, I've done all I can do there.
Speaker 3: You had the real deal filled. Well, you had your
Speaker 3: boy Compto in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we had like, shoot, that was about
Speaker 4: seven linebackers that ended up playing in the league.
Speaker 2: We will ring up to like a Levante David.
Speaker 3: Oh Man, I think he really taught levant to everything
Speaker 3: he knows.
Speaker 2: I could see that, dude, So I break my foot,
Speaker 2: remember that, hold.
Speaker 3: On, hold on? I want to tell the I want
Speaker 3: to tell the story.
Speaker 2: You'll enjoy us.
Speaker 4: So we just get to Nebraska and the first person
Speaker 4: that our head coach, bo Plane he went out to
Speaker 4: see was this guy right here. He and Tom Osborne
Speaker 4: actually went to bond Tera, Missouri. He comes back and
Speaker 4: he says, hey, listen, I don't care if we signed
Speaker 4: one guy in this class. We're building our defense around
Speaker 4: built William William Earl Compton hand on a Bible. He said,
Speaker 4: we're building our defense around will Compton. I don't care
Speaker 4: if we signed one guy. So I'm like, yeah, this
Speaker 4: is easy. It's a layup man and he's already been
Speaker 4: committed forever. So I go see him, go to his house,
Speaker 4: meet meet mom and dad, and go in look at
Speaker 4: his room, Nebraska all over everything in there. Go to school, okay,
Speaker 4: meet him his best friend at the time in high school,
Speaker 4: Logan and a young lady named Anna, and they take
Speaker 4: me around, take me around school. We had a freaking blast.
Speaker 4: He takes me into this class and he's like, hey,
Speaker 4: you got.
Speaker 3: To see this video. He has a video, and I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Get you in any trouble. I say whatever you want
Speaker 4: statue of limitations. All righty, probably up. But he had
Speaker 4: built a sparkler bomb and and he's like, what listen
Speaker 4: to this?
Speaker 3: And he shows me his bomb.
Speaker 4: Goes off right, and show coach no, well and then
Speaker 4: like car alarms are going off.
Speaker 5: He measured it measured bigger than a stick of dynamite.
Speaker 5: The explosion cops came to the house. How did you
Speaker 5: know it measured bigger than a stick of dynamite Because
Speaker 5: they're they're a meter or some radar thing went off
Speaker 5: to where if an explosion happens, it goes like beyond
Speaker 5: like a stick of dynamite. That's why they get the
Speaker 5: call and go wherever the location is. Really, yeah, it
Speaker 5: was nuts. We were so high. But obviously when the
Speaker 5: cops came, you're like, oh shit. But we had this
Speaker 5: sparkler bomb that we wrapped with electrical tape, cut off
Speaker 5: all the bottoms of the sparklers, and I'm talking spent
Speaker 5: hours wrapping it with electrical tape. Then you leave one
Speaker 5: sparkler out air tight, air tight, that one sparkle that
Speaker 5: sticks out, you light it, it sat it gave a
Speaker 5: delay like you didn't know if it was going to happen.
Speaker 5: Or not, and then I'm talking monster. It was insane,
Speaker 5: but yeah, apparently I'm fired up. I'm sure.
Speaker 4: So anyhow, so we go in. The principal says, hey,
Speaker 4: just take my office. We're sitting in there, the four
Speaker 4: of us just cutting it up and Will I got
Speaker 4: to leave. So I walk out to my car. Will
Speaker 4: walks out. He goes, hey, yea, I co check. I
Speaker 4: just want to let you know. You know, I appreciate
Speaker 4: your recruiting me and everything, but I'm not coming to Nebraska.
Speaker 3: You said that. Oh yeah, and oh it gets better.
Speaker 3: There's a coaching change, he said. He goes listening.
Speaker 4: He said, last game I went to there, they played
Speaker 4: Southern cal and got beat by fifty.
Speaker 3: Because I'm not coming.
Speaker 2: It was, he said, I don't know it was. I
Speaker 2: wasn't I'm not coming.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: You said I'm not coming, And he said, I just
Speaker 4: haven't decommitted yet.
Speaker 5: They're shut to that. I'm just talking about the facial expression.
Speaker 5: And you're on camera right now and you're looking I
Speaker 5: look like some asshole. Well you you're super confident, Like
Speaker 5: how do you probably talk now? Like, hey, listen, here's
Speaker 5: the deal.
Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to come here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But does it sound like me to be like, hey,
Speaker 5: you guys just got fifty hung up on you by
Speaker 5: the USC like I'm not coming.
Speaker 2: Sound like him?
Speaker 1: Maybe the words, but words I haven't feeling have more meaning.
Speaker 1: The way you're saying makes it seem like Will was.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: So I get in my car in my phone rings
Speaker 4: and it's the head ball coach bow pointing and he's like, hey,
Speaker 4: act man, how did.
Speaker 3: It go with Compto? And I'm like, bose bose Italian
Speaker 3: you got a little bit of a temper now.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: That Italian thing has really been a deal here on
Speaker 5: the team.
Speaker 3: Huh. So, So he's like, how did it go with Compto?
Speaker 4: And that split second, I paused for a second, I thought,
Speaker 4: and I said, do you know what boat?
Speaker 3: It went? Awesome? Man? Ship? Oh yeah, true story.
Speaker 2: It was his ex first linebacker job.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And he's like that's awesome.
Speaker 4: He goes again, Man, that's that's my guy, And so
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, Ship, And.
Speaker 3: So then I got this guy, gave me my PhD.
Speaker 4: In recruiting, I figured out his mom and dad wanted
Speaker 4: him to come to school there, all right, but they
Speaker 4: were like we're letting it up, leaving it up to him. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: the two people that he was leaning on, right, we're
Speaker 4: Logan and Anna, and so.
Speaker 1: Guess what, hey, Logan colic book.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so guess what.
Speaker 4: I stopped recruiting this guy and I recruited those two.
Speaker 2: You're lying, no true story.
Speaker 3: So Logan ends up coming to Lincoln a brows.
Speaker 2: He gets them both jobs. I did not.
Speaker 5: Okay, there's nothing that can happen. I would tell this
Speaker 5: story if it's me and you send on the bus.
Speaker 3: No, not get them both jobs.
Speaker 2: Doesn't get them jobs.
Speaker 5: Get some get some interviews, interviews until you know, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: they shake hands, they go through the interview process, they
Speaker 5: kill it.
Speaker 2: They're the best candidates for the job they end up getting.
Speaker 5: Logan gets a radio gig and it gets a gig
Speaker 5: at Victoria ccmy and.
Speaker 6: So anyhow while hey, so then so then we're recruiting.
Speaker 6: We're still recruiting. Well this is after the fact, right,
Speaker 6: So we skipped a few layers here.
Speaker 4: So as we're going through recruiting, we had one last
Speaker 4: shot to go to this house, right, so the whole
Speaker 4: staff was going to fly in there.
Speaker 3: We fly in that's when I snuck away.
Speaker 4: In Lincoln, at about three blocks from the stadium, there was
Speaker 4: a tattoo parlor. You know a little something about it
Speaker 4: looks like yeah, yeah, a little bit. And so I
Speaker 4: got this. I got this tattoo right on my bicep
Speaker 4: of black shirts, the skull and.
Speaker 3: Crossbone, and it's a compton in old English.
Speaker 4: And it was like it was a two week temporary tattoo,
Speaker 4: and it looked real. I didn't tell anybody. So I
Speaker 4: go in, We go into the whole staff goes to
Speaker 4: the house. I invited all his friends over. We had
Speaker 4: a freaking party in boom Tair, Missouri point at bonn Terra.
Speaker 2: Yeah and Willis friends oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: So anyway, so we have a great time. So we're
Speaker 4: getting ready to leave, and this is our last shot.
Speaker 4: He was going to decide like two days later. So
Speaker 4: I look his dad.
Speaker 3: Sitting on a lazy boy and he's sitting.
Speaker 4: Back there and you know what, Will I said before
Speaker 4: I leave, I wanted to show you something. I got
Speaker 4: a little something before I left Lincoln to remind me
Speaker 4: every time I look in the mirror, if you don't
Speaker 4: come to university and brask you're making the biggest mistake
Speaker 4: of your life. And so I pull up my shirt
Speaker 4: and it's that tattoo and your dad was like, boy, that's.
Speaker 2: The test I'm getting right there. Yeah, so real. It
Speaker 2: was like you just kind of looked at that. Holy shit.
Speaker 2: You didn't know if it was like creepy or like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's pretty dope.
Speaker 5: But yeah, they did. He left the house that night.
Speaker 5: I was like, that is where I want to go
Speaker 5: because I wasn't going to go there. It was like
Speaker 5: a it was a coaching change here. We talked about
Speaker 5: with coach Bo. They went through like coaching changes and everything,
Speaker 5: and they didn't have a good year at all. And
Speaker 5: Miszoo and Illinois were both Illinois and the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 5: Miszoo had a really good year and went to like
Speaker 5: the Album Bowl or something. They had an awesome year
Speaker 5: and that in state pressure and stuff. But yeah, Ack
Speaker 5: was His tactics were fun.
Speaker 2: They're funny. Oh he was going through your head when
Speaker 2: he first pulled it off. You thought it was a
Speaker 2: little creepy. Yeah, but I he was like that from
Speaker 2: the get go.
Speaker 5: Our first phone conversation, yeah, our first phone conversation was
Speaker 5: he calls me up He's like, Will Compton, greatest linebacker
Speaker 5: in the country, and I kind of chuckle. I'm like,
Speaker 5: uh yeah, hello. He's like, this is coach Mike Eckler.
Speaker 5: I'm the new linebacker coach for the University of Nebraska.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be your coach. All nice to meet you, coach.
Speaker 5: Listen, man, if you don't come here, I told my
Speaker 5: two little girls, because you had two at the time, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had three kiddos, JJ and oh yeah JJJJ
Speaker 4: and the two girls.
Speaker 5: He goes, I have my three kiddos, and I told them,
Speaker 5: if you don't come to the University of Nebraska, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna climb up to Memorial Stadium and jump, and then
Speaker 5: they're not gonna have a father anymore.
Speaker 2: That was our first interaction.
Speaker 3: True story, True story.
Speaker 2: You still you're proud of that?
Speaker 3: Well, you know I said it with you know, with those.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I said it with those voices,
Speaker 5: but uh, what did you say to that?
Speaker 2: I laughed?
Speaker 5: And then you know, just you're kind of like you're
Speaker 5: on the phone from recruiting and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You're just like, fuck, like, who is this dude? Type
Speaker 2: of thing?
Speaker 5: But they came from l s U Bo Bolini had
Speaker 5: the number one defense that like they had the number
Speaker 5: one defense at L s U for you know, two
Speaker 5: three years in a row type of thing, national championships
Speaker 5: and so like them coming on like defensively like they
Speaker 5: were they were the dudes, and uh, I just wasn't
Speaker 5: like feeling Nebraska anymore. He was even telling me he
Speaker 5: want to go to LSU. I'll get you an offered
Speaker 5: L s U. Probably think like, fuck, I want you
Speaker 5: to go to L s U. I was like, oh man,
Speaker 5: that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2: How you told them that? No, I did not, Yeah
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 3: Come on man, no, but yeah that is not true.
Speaker 2: You're making up.
Speaker 3: And it's real.
Speaker 2: That's a true. I went to Nebraska. We're boys, Like
Speaker 2: we're on buzzle with the boys right now. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how it works man.
Speaker 5: And even like even in college, you'd have the recruits,
Speaker 5: the recruiting visits we go to like Famous Daves Ac
Speaker 5: would always soak up everybody with as much food as
Speaker 5: possible because that's when you could like give food.
Speaker 2: That's when players can have food when you go to
Speaker 2: those dinners.
Speaker 5: Yeah, occasional meals, and that would hook it up big
Speaker 5: time at one time bought a huge RV.
Speaker 2: Him and his family went to get an RV. They
Speaker 2: had a temperpeding mattress in it.
Speaker 5: X sells it to me because he can't give it
Speaker 5: to me because it's the rules, against the rules.
Speaker 2: X sells it to me for one dollar. I'm moving,
Speaker 2: we move in our new house, and I need a bet.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, I got this temper pedic, Like, listen,
Speaker 2: I can't give it to y'all. Sell it to you.
Speaker 2: We'll talk, you know, we'll talk price down the road.
Speaker 2: He gets the where he delivers to the house.
Speaker 3: Because j J pte on it, man, but sells it
Speaker 3: to me for a dollar.
Speaker 5: But uh, EQ was all time man. It did suck
Speaker 5: when he left, but there's a lot of awesome memories.
Speaker 5: He talks about building the defense until Lavonte David showed up.
Speaker 5: Mind you broke my foot came back in eight weeks.
Speaker 5: I was the starter, no job to be had when
Speaker 5: I came back. Really, yeah, no one talked to me.
Speaker 5: No one said, hey, this is Levante's show. Now you
Speaker 5: kind of knew what the deal was. After Game one,
Speaker 5: Levonte David had like thirteen tackles, was.
Speaker 2: Actually had twenty he was killing dudes. He had twenty
Speaker 2: seven against us and was an eleven or twelve. Yeah,
Speaker 2: remember a mission there when we went to the Big
Speaker 2: ten though, you know, no, I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I watched that game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Levante had like twenty seven tackles, twenty seven, but
Speaker 5: Leavonte had like twenty tackles blocking.
Speaker 2: Listen, I probably tried it.
Speaker 5: Sounds like he's like savage bro and he had so
Speaker 5: many busts that game. But you just knew, like, oh,
Speaker 5: this dude is fucking legit. But I came back there
Speaker 5: was no job to be had.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was Levonte's gig after that. But that yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that was never talked ever. E never sat me down
Speaker 5: and told me it was tough. But that's part of
Speaker 5: the gig, right, Like that's how you can get but.
Speaker 2: You still play. What do you mean there's no job.
Speaker 2: He just took your jobs job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: We we played dime most of the time because the
Speaker 5: spread offense in the Big Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so we're in dime most of the time.
Speaker 2: So we're running one line.
Speaker 5: And Bo never trusted a I can linebacker to cover
Speaker 5: tight ends and ship like that.
Speaker 2: Just never did for whatever reason, and.
Speaker 5: So Leavante's would be the lone backer of me and
Speaker 5: Fish and we'd all be just chilling on the sideline. Actually,
Speaker 5: he always has the I mean you see, he has
Speaker 5: the most positive energy.
Speaker 2: Of all time.
Speaker 5: You do, you have fire energy. There's gonna be there's
Speaker 5: another story I was thinking of, Hey, I'll tell you
Speaker 5: another another cool story. So I leave right and I
Speaker 5: go to Indiana and.
Speaker 2: I call Will up. We're getting ready to play.
Speaker 4: I think it was Michigan State, and yeah it was.
Speaker 4: I put him on speakerphone and he's in the defensive staff.
Speaker 4: I'm in the defensive staff and I and long story short,
Speaker 4: his freaking breakdown he did as a player was more
Speaker 4: extensive than the breakdown I did as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: I mean he was rattling off all this stuff and
Speaker 4: I'm sitting out the notes and I'm like, the son
Speaker 4: of a gun, I missed that, man, And I mean
Speaker 4: it was it was pretty darn impressive.
Speaker 2: How do you think will it be as a coach?
Speaker 3: Oh? He'd kill it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, future head coach.
Speaker 3: Oh, big time. Man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you.
Speaker 5: I do. I would enjoy coaching for sure. It's just
Speaker 5: just seems like a lot of fucking work. I mean,
Speaker 5: you've been at several places. Of all the places you've
Speaker 5: been to, and we can leave Tennessee out of it.
Speaker 5: If you're just gonna give the blanket answer like, oh,
Speaker 5: I love Tennessee. Obviously you're wearing orange right now. But
Speaker 5: you've been the USC, Georgia, Nebraska, Indiana, LSU, where else.
Speaker 2: Some hitters, Oklahoma, North Carolina.
Speaker 5: What's like, what which of those schools you think had
Speaker 5: the best like college experience?
Speaker 4: Wow, I mean that's that's a tough one. I mean
Speaker 4: they're all unique in their own way. I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: sure you had an unbelievable time Michigan, great time. I
Speaker 4: know you had a great time in Nebraska. I think
Speaker 4: I think just where you're at at that time with
Speaker 4: those people, I mean, all of them are cool.
Speaker 3: I mean college football.
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna need I'm gonna need. I just don't.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you really want the legit answer, I've
Speaker 4: never seen anything like this place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tennessee's out of it.
Speaker 5: Tennessee's Tennessee is Tennessee is an awesome fucking.
Speaker 2: We've loved it here. But you've been in so many spots,
Speaker 2: like I'm just curious, like.
Speaker 4: Well, I will say this, Nebraska was probably the most unique,
Speaker 4: Like legitimately, everybody in that whole state knew everything about
Speaker 4: you and your family.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about as a linebacker coach.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was like it was like you're rock
Speaker 4: star and you got you got that kind of treatment
Speaker 4: wherever you went.
Speaker 3: So that was that was pretty unique.
Speaker 1: When that stuff happens and everybody in the whole state
Speaker 1: knows everything about you. Do you think it is that
Speaker 1: making your job a little bit harder because you know
Speaker 1: everyone's watching everything you do, and if you don't have
Speaker 1: the success that you guys want to have, does that
Speaker 1: make kind of make it everything feel a little heavier now?
Speaker 4: It kind of goes back to a question that your
Speaker 4: dad asked me way back when when I was recruiting you.
Speaker 4: He said, you know, you guys must be under a
Speaker 4: lot of pressure, you know, to restore you know, at
Speaker 4: that time, Nebraska football and this and that. And I said,
Speaker 4: you know what I said, you don't know how much
Speaker 4: pressure were under that much?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And here's why, said, because there's no pressure that any fan,
Speaker 4: any media, anybody could ever put on you as a
Speaker 4: coach more than what you put on yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I don't even listen to that.
Speaker 2: I don't read any of it.
Speaker 3: I don't think about it.
Speaker 4: You know, as a coach, you expect to win every
Speaker 4: single game, and if you don't, you know, it crushes you.
Speaker 4: You don't remember the ones you win, you the ones
Speaker 4: that you lose. It's like the fear of losing. Man,
Speaker 4: that's what drives you. The fear of not being prepared.
Speaker 4: And that's just kind of how I'm wired.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 5: Literally what we're witnessing with, Like this is him at
Speaker 5: all times. He's a glass at full always. A story
Speaker 5: that always jumps out of me. Was the time that
Speaker 5: I had a shoulder surgery. Oh yeah, I puked all
Speaker 5: over his house from having shoulders?
Speaker 2: Remember that story? Yeah yeah, I had a lab room surgery.
Speaker 5: And you're not like, again, I'm not trying to say
Speaker 5: all the stories if you've been bending rules or anything
Speaker 5: like that, but like you know, your family, nobody's there
Speaker 5: to like help you out on the first night, right, well,
Speaker 5: like we're in dorm rooms and uh X, like, oh,
Speaker 5: you come to stay at my house, like you know,
Speaker 5: I'll make sure you get all the right stuff and
Speaker 5: stuff like that, so I'm like sleeping. At first, I
Speaker 5: started in JJ's bed and it was so uncomfortable, like
Speaker 5: trying to lay on my back from shoulder surgery, that
Speaker 5: I go down to a chair downstairs. They set me
Speaker 5: up downstairs, like all right, are you good and all
Speaker 5: this stuff, and I had, you know, I was drugged
Speaker 5: up and everything.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm good right now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that nerve block. That nerve block had worn off yet.
Speaker 2: And I had pasta that night.
Speaker 5: I could hooked me up with like pasta and stuff
Speaker 5: at the at the cafeteria and everybody goes to bed
Speaker 5: and I'm sitting there and the nerve block wears off.
Speaker 3: I'm upstairs.
Speaker 4: All I hear is hack and then I hear him
Speaker 4: all over.
Speaker 2: We had to wake him up. Oh yeah, over the
Speaker 2: wall he can pointed down. I tried getting to uh.
Speaker 2: I tried getting to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: I tried rushing the bathroom because I felt it coming up,
Speaker 5: and I got like half on the rug and half
Speaker 5: on the half on the hardwood, and then some on
Speaker 5: the wall. And I just sat there and I tried
Speaker 5: cleaning it up by myself before I had to ask
Speaker 5: for help because I'm like Holy shit, this is embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my coach's house, Like I don't know his family really,
Speaker 5: like they're super nice, but I don't know anybody. So
Speaker 5: I'm like trying to get paper towels and I'm trying
Speaker 5: to like bend down, and I am in so much
Speaker 5: pain from this nerve block work.
Speaker 2: Now do you still from the food or from how
Speaker 2: much pain you're in.
Speaker 5: I've probably a combination of all of it, Like the drugs,
Speaker 5: the nerve block wears off, you're having food, all that stuff,
Speaker 5: and uh, I go and like look in the mirror
Speaker 5: and I just have puke all over myself and I
Speaker 5: just stare at myself.
Speaker 2: Like God, you piece of shit, dude. You got to
Speaker 2: figure this out.
Speaker 5: And I couldn't figure it out. Yeah, to where there's
Speaker 5: like tears of my eyes. I'm in so much pain.
Speaker 5: So I go up and that's where he's like, I'm
Speaker 5: like eck, and he doesn't. He's sleeping and his wife's like,
Speaker 5: will honey, do you need something? I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I go, yeah, can you get coach egg? And that
Speaker 5: comes He's like, well, what's wrong?
Speaker 2: Am?
Speaker 3: I go?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm so sorry?
Speaker 5: I just I puked everywhere downstairs, he's Oh, man, I
Speaker 5: don't envy where you're at. He comes down, cleans it
Speaker 5: all up. But that's just like that's like a story
Speaker 5: of coach coach eck and eyes like relationship like he's
Speaker 5: always an amazing relationship.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is your relationship like this with all players
Speaker 1: or a select field?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be a select few. Really, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know there's some first guy ever recruited.
Speaker 4: I mean, and just going back to like those stories
Speaker 4: and family, I mean, I absolutely love his family. I mean,
Speaker 4: just there, we go back a long way. We broke
Speaker 4: a lot of huddles together.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 5: How do you feel like you've changed from that first
Speaker 5: year at Nebraska and developed as a coach, Like over
Speaker 5: the years, because you've been at a lot of different stops,
Speaker 5: You've had linebacker rooms, you've been a coordinator special teams. Now,
Speaker 5: how do you feel like you've developed as far as
Speaker 5: like owning your own rooms.
Speaker 4: When you first start out, you just don't have a
Speaker 4: lot of experience to draw from, and like, as a coach,
Speaker 4: you know, you don't know what you don't know obviously,
Speaker 4: And so if I could go back now and coach
Speaker 4: you for twenty years of experience that I have, I mean,
Speaker 4: and be totally different. So I think you just gain
Speaker 4: a lot more confidence, a lot more knowledge, and you
Speaker 4: really study the game. Because let's be honest, in football
Speaker 4: right now, in particular in college football, I'll just say it.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of quote unquote recruiters out
Speaker 4: there who can't coach freaking dead in the Western Man.
Speaker 3: And that's just the truth. And that's true.
Speaker 4: That's pretty funny, but that's true, you know. And and
Speaker 4: the thing about it is, I've come up with this
Speaker 4: in twenty years of coaching. I tell our guys, like
Speaker 4: when I first got here, I told them this, I said, wells,
Speaker 4: it's my job to earn your respect.
Speaker 3: And so let me be clear about that.
Speaker 4: Okay, what I mean now is if I can't teach
Speaker 4: you and develop you into the best player you can be,
Speaker 4: I'm worthless to you. You don't need some nine year
Speaker 4: old friend, you need a mentor, you need a coach.
Speaker 4: Somebody's going to help develop you, right. So the next thing,
Speaker 4: it's my job to earn your trust. And when I
Speaker 4: say earn your trust, now, that happens over time, happens
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter when you're playing and you know
Speaker 4: they shit, it's a fan and Mike going point a finger,
Speaker 4: mikeing point of thumb.
Speaker 3: Are we in this together? Or we in it together?
Speaker 3: And then the.
Speaker 4: Third thing once you got those two, which take time,
Speaker 4: once you got and then the third thing is once
Speaker 4: you figure out they actually care about you, I actually
Speaker 4: love you. Now we got something. But that's kind of like,
Speaker 4: really what's going on here at Tennessee? Like our players,
Speaker 4: we came in here and that's what we had to do.
Speaker 4: Those those things, we had to earn their respect, We
Speaker 4: had to earn their trust.
Speaker 3: And now it's freaking gravy. It's it's time right now
Speaker 3: with those kids.
Speaker 4: Our players know that we absolutely love them, and they
Speaker 4: trust us and they know we can develop them. And
Speaker 4: so now now you're going to see some great things
Speaker 4: continue to happen here.
Speaker 2: When is uh Tennessee coming back to prominence?
Speaker 3: When Yeah, what's today's date?
Speaker 2: Hey Jack? Did you Jack? Look at Jack claughing? Shall we?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: We shall? But hold on, I want to hit that
Speaker 2: real quick. Okay, Okay, I got to tell you. I
Speaker 2: got to tell you one.
Speaker 3: I got to tell you one funny story though, all right.
Speaker 4: About so so a yeah, so so I'm I'm coaching
Speaker 4: and coaching at North Carolina had a linebacker that reminded
Speaker 4: me of a lot of Will the Thrill, all right,
Speaker 4: and so so anyhow, Cole hol comes his name.
Speaker 3: So it's two weeks before the draft, and were you were.
Speaker 4: You were playing for the Titans at the time, right,
Speaker 4: And because you were not with Washington anymore. So I
Speaker 4: get a call from Rob Ryan and phone. You know,
Speaker 4: the number doesn't isn't in my phone just pops up.
Speaker 4: He goes, Hey this Rob Ryan, And I said, coach,
Speaker 4: how you doing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Doing great?
Speaker 4: He just wanted to ask you about one of your
Speaker 4: former linebackers, Cole Holcome blah blah blah. And I said, coach, listen,
Speaker 4: I don't know you, but I kind of feel like
Speaker 4: I do a little bit. You like to go out
Speaker 4: and have a couple of drinks, right, You like to
Speaker 4: maybe go out and have a couple of smokes.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the draft him.
Speaker 4: You'll get a genius because when you go into your
Speaker 4: meeting room, you can tell him exactly what you want,
Speaker 4: and you can go out to practice and smoke two
Speaker 4: packs a day. Man, he will be the second smartest
Speaker 4: player in the NFL behind Will Compton.
Speaker 3: True story, Dan.
Speaker 2: He coachecks my hype man if a speech.
Speaker 3: It's truth.
Speaker 2: It's too I know, I know, but he's been throwing
Speaker 2: a lot off this moment.
Speaker 1: It's an observation. I appreciate that coach special. I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: not even being a part of the spot. I'm liking
Speaker 1: just kind of in this little triangle of love right now.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like we just want to hug or
Speaker 1: something like it's I kind of want that you.
Speaker 5: We have our Duke Cannon question Canon, Duke Cannon not
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Speaker 2: And again not for clowns.
Speaker 5: But this segment is brought to us by the one
Speaker 5: and only Do Cannon. My question would be the same
Speaker 5: as the other coaches, like I need a recruiting story,
Speaker 5: not a Will Compton one.
Speaker 2: We've done enough. Will Compton stories.
Speaker 5: What is a recruiting story out there that's been like unique,
Speaker 5: Some that you tell all the time, some you tell often.
Speaker 2: Because I was there, recruiting stories of me are.
Speaker 3: The best, and I got a ton of funny recruiting stories.
Speaker 4: One I was coaching out at Southern cal and we
Speaker 4: have this big camp coming all right, and.
Speaker 3: We got all these guys from all over the country.
Speaker 4: We have Leonard Fournet, is that atte Leonard Fournette and
Speaker 4: Delvin Cook.
Speaker 2: They were there.
Speaker 3: Then we have this skinny linebacker from San Diego who's
Speaker 3: just locking.
Speaker 4: Everybody down, and he had no offers, right, And so
Speaker 4: I tell coach oh, and tell Lane, like, look, it's
Speaker 4: that I love this kid man.
Speaker 3: He's got great balance, great body control.
Speaker 4: He freaking locking down these guys, and and it said,
Speaker 4: I think we should offer him. They're like, well, who's
Speaker 4: offering it's nobody, and you know, and then I get
Speaker 4: from the coach.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's not the USC winback.
Speaker 3: Who looks like, understand me.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, that's fine, but I think he's pretty
Speaker 4: damn good. So we end up offering this guy, right,
Speaker 4: and we're the first offer him, and he ends up
Speaker 4: having another only one other offer, I believe at the
Speaker 4: end of it all.
Speaker 3: But it was Fred Warner. Really yeah, really yeah, pretty
Speaker 3: damn good.
Speaker 2: Hey, stud, he is a stud bro.
Speaker 4: He was like six two, one hundred and ninety five
Speaker 4: pounds at that camp, and I was like, son of
Speaker 4: a gun man.
Speaker 2: He was. He was pretty impressive and he played at USC.
Speaker 4: No, No, he actually went we got let go of
Speaker 4: that year. That's then I went over to Georgia, but
Speaker 4: he went to b y U.
Speaker 2: That was that's right, that's right. Yeah, Yeah, he is
Speaker 2: a study.
Speaker 5: He's a beast. I was bloss was here to just enjoy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he was like he was active and playing in the game.
Speaker 5: You guys play, right, Like do you have like when
Speaker 5: you guys are bringing him down a film? Is he
Speaker 5: like the dude?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a guy. You know how Vrabel's meetings are.
Speaker 2: When we do.
Speaker 1: Like a Friday tape or something like that, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, hey, if you just if you blow fifty four,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be all right. But you know the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers defense, they have studs across the ball on
Speaker 1: the other defensive line.
Speaker 5: He's unbelievable, and I think they had Sherman then too,
Speaker 5: Richard Sherman. Oh, in the night he was in the
Speaker 5: Niners that last year was he? I thought he was
Speaker 5: on the buck when he went to the Bucks. He
Speaker 5: was a nice year before. But yeah, he's He's.
Speaker 2: One of those dudes that like very efficient in his
Speaker 2: movement too. Yeah, very efficient in his movement.
Speaker 4: When I was coaching Nebraska, when I was recruiting down
Speaker 4: at Compton out in LA and I go into school,
Speaker 4: go see this young man and go out after school
Speaker 4: school that just just broke. I'm in a Mustang convertible
Speaker 4: cop down, top down and get right outside school. Freaking
Speaker 4: gang fight breaks out right in front of me. Police
Speaker 4: cars surrounded me. I was pretty wild. That was Hayes Polard.
Speaker 4: I was recruiting too. God, were you just scared shitless?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I put my top up. Though.
Speaker 2: Is it always intimidating going into like those rough areas?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if i'd say intimidating.
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody ever really messages with the coach. I
Speaker 4: went into it at school when I was in Nebraska
Speaker 4: and I was down in Houston, right across Houston.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I go into the school right end, I'm
Speaker 3: going in to see the quarterback.
Speaker 4: And I'm walking in and right as I'm walking in,
Speaker 4: the police cars are all around, and they're they're coming
Speaker 4: out with this guy and I stretcher and rolling him out.
Speaker 4: He'd just been shot. And so you know, they let
Speaker 4: me still go in and see this kid. And so
Speaker 4: I called Bo on the way back, and he said, well,
Speaker 4: how did it go? And I said, well, good news,
Speaker 4: bad news, man, I said, bad news is I went.
Speaker 4: I went into school and they were wheeling somebody out
Speaker 4: just shot. Said good news, wasn't a quarterback?
Speaker 2: That's outstanding.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting here thinking like, if you're rolling up in
Speaker 5: a rough area, you gotta be careful. Like if you're
Speaker 5: if you're a coach in Nebraska, you probably gotta be
Speaker 5: careful wearing red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for real, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just walk We had Nebraska on there or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 2: You gotta get with the black. If you're an Nebraska coach,
Speaker 2: then you're.
Speaker 1: Rolling up in an area that might identify with color
Speaker 1: T shirts.
Speaker 3: You know, get away with it though, Because I'm light,
Speaker 3: skinn Jamaican.
Speaker 2: Say that, bro, You're not Jamaican.
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm dual citizen. That's fact.
Speaker 2: Is that an actual fact? You always spoke around about that.
Speaker 3: No, it's a fact. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't mess around with your heritage from Bontaire, Missouri.
Speaker 3: So I don't appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Step on toes. Well, I'm with you. We're just I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to be on your side right now.
Speaker 3: Appreciate.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you, but I'm gonna be on your
Speaker 2: side with this.
Speaker 3: It is true?
Speaker 2: Is that really true? I keep thinking you're fucking with me. Dude.
Speaker 2: It's been it's been a a long joke.
Speaker 3: No, it's not a joke. It's a truth.
Speaker 2: Have you done the twenty three and me?
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't need to. I know Negrill, Jamaica. Look
Speaker 4: it up man from seven Mile Beach. I'm I'm registered.
Speaker 2: How often to go back?
Speaker 3: Well with COVID, it's been it's been a couple of years,
Speaker 3: but try and.
Speaker 2: Go back every year. See family?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know family, friends. Hey, lying, I.
Speaker 2: Think so too. I swear it's the same. He never
Speaker 2: came from this stupid story.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, you know, listen, we got married,
Speaker 4: My wife and I got married over there on a
Speaker 4: beach in Jamaica, right you have to go to our country.
Speaker 3: You have to go four days early, and you have
Speaker 3: to declare citizenship.
Speaker 2: Wow, to get married over there.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's how our company makes a little more our
Speaker 4: country makes a little more money.
Speaker 2: This is We're gonna look all this up.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 2: In fact, how our country. So you're not American, Well, what.
Speaker 4: Are you doing your dual duel when it comes to
Speaker 4: paying taxes. I'm Jamaican.
Speaker 3: We have no state income.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 5: We appreciate you coming on, man, Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 5: It's been a pleasure to hear these stories.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Will you know, he's probably listening to a couple of
Speaker 1: these getting a little red on the cheeks, But for me
Speaker 1: it was it was an absolute dream to hear all
Speaker 1: these nice stories about we'll call.
Speaker 5: Especially when you look over at me and stuff. He
Speaker 5: just you know how it is. You're like trying to
Speaker 5: like you're.
Speaker 1: Trying to get gassed too hard, but at the same
Speaker 1: time it's kind of nice.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I appreciate it. Now. I appreciate you guys
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