1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The Son of a Butcher podcast is back as always. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Claude Harmon, and today we're talking about 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: something that I think costs most golfers strokes every time 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: they play a round of golf, and that is the 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: par five problem. Par Fives should be your best holes. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the theory and the theory behind that 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: is you almost get an extra shot, there's more room 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: for error, and the hole is designed to give you 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity to not lose shots. Right on tour, it's 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: the legit holes where tour players can pick up ground 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: against the field. So when we're looking at a golf course, 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: let's say there's four par fives, I mean on tour, 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, I need to take care of the 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: par fives. One of the things I'm always saying to 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: competitive golfers is listen before they go out for a 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: round of golf. I'm always saying, take care of the 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: par fives. You can't make bogies on par fives, right, 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: you can't make big numbers on par fives, always going 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: to make birdies on them. Tour players expect to make 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: birdies on the par fives, right, But for the rest 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: of us. You just can't make bogies or big numbers 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: on the par fives, and to me, that has got 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: to be a non negotiable. So why does that happen. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: I think it's a greed problem. I think the minute 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: most golfers get on par five, something changes. They stop thinking. 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: The driver immediately comes out, there's no real plan, the 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: math goes out the window, and I think most golfers 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: are thinking about par fives in the way that they 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: see tour players on TV play them in that A 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of times when you're watching golf on TV, watching 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: tour players on all the tours around the world, there's 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: always going to be guys that go for it. There's 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: guys that lay up. But you see the best players 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: in the world going for par fives because they have 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: the firepower to get to these holes, right. They have 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: three woods, any of their woods, they have hybrids. Sometimes 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: we're seeing the really really long hitters on tour hitting 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: irons into par fives, and I think that really does 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: shape and really kind of affect our thought process into thinking, Okay, 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: I've got to hit a wood. I've got to try 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: and get it as close as I can to the hole. 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: To the green, and I think it just throws out 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: any sort of strategy. The problem isn't trying to reach 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: it in two. It's it's trying to reach it into 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: when you probably don't have the firepower to do it. 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: But I think if you can start to think about 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: par five differently, I really think this is a way 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: that you can start to shave strokes and not lose strokes. 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: It's a math problem. So when you're looking at par fives, 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: and you're looking at the par fives on your home course, 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: look at the distance of that par five. Right, Let's 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: just say an average R five of five hundred and 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: thirty yards, So look at how far you consistently hit 54 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: your driver, and then just start doing some basic math. 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: Right now, let's say you can hit your driver two 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. Let's say you hit it dead 57 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: in the middle and carry it two hundred and fifty 58 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: yards on a five hundred and thirty yard par five, 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: And let's say you hit the fairway. That means you've 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: got two hundred and eighty yards left. Right, most of 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: us that are listening to this podcast aren't going to 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: carry any golf club two hundred and eighty yards in 63 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: the air. You're certainly probably not going to do that 64 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: off the ground. But I think again, television, what you 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: see when you watch the best players in the world 66 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: really does start to skew the way that your brain 67 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: is thinking. So the number one thing, the number one 68 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: thing on a par five is get the ball in play, 69 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: get the ball in the fairway. Par Fives become a 70 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: disaster for most golfers because they don't hit the fairway 71 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: and they think they need to hit driver all the time. 72 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: I've had him on the podcast before. I use him 73 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: as an example because he has an enormous amount of firepower. 74 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Noah can't. He's a junior at the University of Florida. 75 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I've said this before. Noah cruises at mid one ninety 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: ball speed. I mean, he can hit drives three sixty 77 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: three seventy in the air. And when we look at 78 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: his scoring over the last year to a year and 79 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: a half, he's not taking care of the par five. 80 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: You would think someone with his firepower. I mean, there 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: aren't really a lot of par fives that he can't 82 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: reach in two right, But he's making big numbers on 83 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: par fives, And I say to them all the time. 84 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: With your firepower, you could hit irons off the tee 85 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: and then never hit a wood and have legit chances 86 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: to make birdies. Right, So when you're looking at the 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: par fives, the number one thing, the most important thing 88 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: is to get it in the fairway. Can you get 89 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: it in fairway with your driver? Can you get it 90 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: in the fairway with one of your woods? Can you 91 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: get it in the fairway with one of your hybrids. 92 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: If the answer to all of that is no, if 93 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: you're not consistent with those clubs, then maybe what you 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: say is, okay, let me just take an iron off 95 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: the tee. Let me just get the ball in play 96 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: with an iron. And again, the number one goal is 97 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: to not lose strokes on par five. So if you're 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm just gonna go ahead, and I'm 99 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: thinking maybe around the ten handicap ranch right, everybody else 100 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: outside of that, you're just trying to not lose strokes 101 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: on the par fives, right, You're not trying to make 102 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: birdies on them, but you're just trying to not make bogies, 103 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: trying to not make doubles. You're not trying to make triples. Now, 104 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I think if you're a ten handicap and under, then 105 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: maybe you can have the strategy of thinking, Okay, maybe 106 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: I can go ahead and try and pick up some 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: shots on this hole. But I think the majority of 108 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the people listening to the pod are in that kind 109 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: of over ten handicap range. So you're just trying to 110 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: not You're trying to not lose money, right, You're trying 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: to have the company not lose money on that hole. 112 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: So that's a good way to think about it. So 113 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: a five hundred and thirty yard or five, let's say 114 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: you hit the fairway two hundred and fifty yards. Again, 115 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: there are going to be a lot of people listening 116 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: that are going to be playing a five hundred and 117 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: thirty yard par five that might only be able to 118 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: hit the golf ball in the air two hundred to ten. 119 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: So it really becomes a math problem, right to me, 120 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: starting to think about par five in realistic ways, check 121 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: the ego at the door. Really kind of ask yourself, Okay, 122 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm on a par five, regardless of what the distance is, 123 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: how far do I consistently hit my driver and be 124 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: honest with yourself, right, not catch one in the middle 125 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: of the face and hit your all time greatest drive ever, 126 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: because that's what tour players do, right. Tour players insistently 127 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: hit the driver in the middle of the face, right, 128 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Rory McElroy, Scotti, Scheffler, John Rahm, the guys I work with, 129 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, right, Nellie Korda. They hit the driver in 130 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: the center of the face. So they're going to hit 131 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: it solid. They're going to get the golf ball out there. 132 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: So I talk about this on the pod all the time. 133 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: Playing for the miss golf is a game of missus. 134 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: So on the par fives, if you can just miss 135 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: it better, so rule number one. Whatever club you need 136 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: to take to get the golf ball in play, do that, 137 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: and then it's a layup competition. Right. Cleaning up on 138 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the par fives is not about driving it better, hitting 139 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: your three wood, your woods, your hybrid's better. It really 140 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: becomes a third shot problem, right, So how good can 141 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: your third shot be? You want to start thinking about 142 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: that third shot on a par five? Right, What can 143 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: you do to give yourself a really good opportunity to 144 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: hit the green on a par five with your third shot? 145 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: And whatever you have to do, think about that as 146 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: the end goal. The end goal on the par five 147 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: for the majority of golfers is the third shot. Can 148 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: you have a flat lie from the fairway for your 149 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: third shot on a par five? And ideally what you're 150 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: going to want to do is have a third shot 151 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: on a par five from the farewell with the golf 152 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: club that you have a lot of confidence in. So again, 153 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: work the math on this. What are your short irons 154 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: that you have a lot of confidences? Is that sand wedge? 155 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Is that a pitching wedge? Is that a nine iron? 156 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a seven iron. We've talked to and I've 157 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: done podcasts before to kind of stay out of that 158 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: dead zone, that thirty to eighty yard range. That's a 159 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: dead zone for the majority of golfers. It's not a 160 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: full shot. You've got to try and manufacture something. You're 161 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: going to be in between shots. It's not going to 162 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: be a full shot of anything. So rule number one 163 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: on the par fives is get the golf ball in 164 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: play off the te whatever club you have to use, 165 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: and then it's a third shot hole. What can you 166 00:09:53,760 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: do to strategize to give yourself the best third shot possible. 167 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: You hear tour players and their caddies always talking about 168 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: numbers right now. I think they do a great job 169 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: on the broadcast when the caddies are talking to the players, 170 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: the commentators used to kind of talk over them, right, 171 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: And I think now what they do is they really 172 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: kind of just stop talking so that us the viewers 173 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: can hear what they're talking about, hear what they're saying, 174 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: and you'll hear them going back and forth between a 175 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: lot of numbers. You'll hear the caddies saying, listen, we've 176 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: got this number to the front, We've got this number 177 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: to the flag. And if the player can't get there, 178 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: the player will say, well, and then the caddy will say, 179 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: what do you want for your next shot? Right? So 180 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: think of yourself as your own caddy. So let's say 181 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: you get it in the fair way off the tee 182 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: on a five hundred and thirty yard par five, and 183 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: you've got to think in terms of, Okay, now I've 184 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: got two hundred and eighty yards left. I cannot get 185 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: to the hole. And a terrible strategy is just to say, Okay, 186 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: it's going to swing as hard as I can with 187 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: one of my woods, since I'm just try and get 188 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: it down there as far as possible. I think when 189 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: you do that, you can bring missus into play. You 190 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: can hit it in the rough, you can hit it 191 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: into the water, you can hit it into a difficult 192 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: situation where you're struggling to make par. So do the 193 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: math and say, okay, what are my irons, my short 194 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: irons that I have a tremendous amount of confidence in, 195 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: And then you don't even think about going for the green. 196 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: You just say, okay, I've hit a good drive, I'm 197 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: in the fairway. Now I don't have a club that 198 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: can get me to the green, so I'm going to 199 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: start to think in terms of what do I want 200 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: for my next shot. So I went out and played 201 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: golf in Adelaide when I was down there for the 202 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: live event, and we went and played Royal Adelaide. I mean, 203 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: it's such a cool golf course. It's got train tracks 204 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: that go right through the golf course, so you can 205 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: be playing golf and a train goes through. It's really 206 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: really a cool spot. Now, I hadn't been playing a 207 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: lot of golf with a rental set left handed, didn't 208 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: really do a lot of warm up. And I've said 209 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: this many times, I don't really play a lot of golf, 210 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: but I wanted to go out with some friends. It 211 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: was a beautiful day, had a day off, the weather 212 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: was great. It was in Australia, and I'd heard Royal 213 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: Adelaide was a great golf course. I'd done a couple 214 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: speaking engagements there during the live events for the last 215 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: couple of years, and I really wanted to play the 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: golf course. And I was playing with some friends. I've 217 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: said this a lot. Golf for me is about who 218 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm playing with, and I was playing with some really 219 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: good friends and it's a cool golf course. Right on 220 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the front nine. My iron game was terrible, right, It 221 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: was just awful. So what I started to do with 222 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: my iron game was just bunt kind of three quarter, 223 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: take way more club and just kind of run it 224 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: down there, right and run it on to a bunch 225 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: of these greens, because you can do that on links golf. 226 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: So my point behind that is if you're on a 227 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: par five and you've hit the fairway, you don't even 228 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: have to make a full swing. You can take one 229 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: of your longer linds, you take a five iron and 230 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: just say, okay, I'm just gonna kind of hit a 231 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: little three quarter knock down five iron. That's just gonna 232 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: get me down the middle of the fairway to a 233 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: yardage to where then it's a third shot. Right, I 234 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: have my third shot. You don't always have to make 235 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: full swings. I think, as I said at the beginning, 236 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: I just think it's a greed issue. You see so 237 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: many people on TV, see Rory McElroy, see the best 238 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: players in the world risk war. They're gonna go for 239 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: the par five and they make eagle. They lip it out, 240 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: but it too putt for birdie and they get out. 241 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: So really, think about that yardage that you want next. 242 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: Is it a one hundred yard shot? Eighty to me 243 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: is the no go right, So you don't want to 244 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: lay it up inside of eighty yards because it's going 245 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: to be a difficult shot for you. You're really going 246 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: to have to try and manufacture something. And in reality, 247 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: par fives really are wedge contests, right for the majority 248 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: of us. Right, players who score on par fives give 249 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: themselves opportunity to hit web shots from a flat lie 250 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: from the fairway. The alternative is going for it, hit 251 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: it in the rough. Now you've got to try and 252 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: manufacture something. You try and go for it, you hit 253 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: it into the trees, you hit it into some bunkers, 254 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: and then you've got a long bunker shot. Or a 255 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: lot of par fives will have water somewhere on them, right, 256 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: And I think for the majority of us, if you 257 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: think about your home course on a par five, there's 258 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: going to be an element of water at some point. 259 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: Could be water in front of the green, could be 260 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: watered down the left hand side of the fairway, could 261 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: be water down the right hand side of the fairway. Right. 262 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: So that's the course architect, the designer of the golf 263 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: course trying to come almost bait you into going for it, 264 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: because that's why he putting those obstacles. If there's a 265 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: bunch of bunkers short of the green on a par five, 266 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you lay back. The 267 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do on a par five 268 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: is to have to have you've hit a good drive, 269 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: you've got it in play. You try and hit it 270 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: all the way down there to the green, come up short. 271 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: Now you've got a bunker shot. Most golfers aren't good 272 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: at regular bunker shots, let alone long, mid range bunker shots. 273 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: So that's what you really want to think of. And 274 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: then you want to think about all of the hazards 275 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: that are on this par five and you're just trying 276 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: to avoid them at all costs. So protect yourself on 277 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: the second shot on a par five so that you 278 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: can be conservatively aggressive on your third shot. I've talked 279 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: about this before. Work backwards. Next time you're on a 280 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: par five, stand in the middle of the green and 281 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: look back to the tee and look at what you see. 282 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: And I think you can really help shape the way 283 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: that you play these holes. Right. I'm not saying never 284 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: to go for it. You might have an opportunity to 285 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: go for a par five and might be a short 286 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: par five at your home course, and you might hit 287 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: a really really good drive and be playing really really 288 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: well that day, you feel really confident in your golf swing, 289 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: You've got a good round going. Those are the opportunities 290 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: where you go ahead and say, all right, I'm gonna 291 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: push the gas, right, But going for par five needs 292 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: to be a calculated decision, not an emotional decision, not 293 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: an ego driven decision. And that's what I see so 294 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: much with regular golfers, and I really think that scoring 295 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: really for the majority of us, we talk a lot 296 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: on tour about scoring, right, you know, where we can 297 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: pick up shots, where we can save shots. You know, 298 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: we're going through a scorecard, and we're looking at the 299 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: golf course, right, and we're looking at the strategy, and 300 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: we're looking at all the data and stuff. We're trying 301 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, what are the easy par fours 302 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: out there? What are the hard par fours out there? 303 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: What are the par fives? Are there a lot of short, 304 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: mid range par fives or are there a lot of 305 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: long par fives? Right, So we're trying to take a 306 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: look at those and thinking, okay, which one of those 307 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: can we attack? Right, and then we're looking at the 308 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: par three. The majority of us that are playing golf 309 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: aren't playing on tournament golf courses. We're not playing on 310 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: major championship type golf course. I mean, if you look 311 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: at the amount of people that are members at the 312 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: golf courses where they play major championships, the majority of 313 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: us are never going to play a golf course where 314 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: they play a major championship. Right. The majority of us 315 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: listening are not members at golf courses where they play 316 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: major championships. So you're going to have a good mix 317 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: on your golf course and major championships, the majority of 318 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: the par threes, they're long par threes, right, they stretch 319 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: the par threes out. There are long par fours, there 320 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: are long par fives your home course. If you're just 321 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: a regular recreational golfer, a handicapped golfer, you're going to 322 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: have a mix of you know, probably some short to 323 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: mid par threes. You're going to have some short par fours. 324 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: You're probably going to have a couple of par fives 325 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: that you know aren't necessarily long. You're probably gonna have 326 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: one par five that's really really long. But again, par 327 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: fives should be you should be making calculated decisions, not 328 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: ego and emotional decisions. So I think it starts at 329 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: the tee, and I think if you can start to 330 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: do some homework. For low handicapped golfers, par fives are 331 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: birdie holes, that's where they can pick up shots. But 332 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: for the majority of us, they're legit par opportunities. So 333 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: really get a good idea of what your distances are. 334 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Take your ego out of the equation, be honest with yourself. 335 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: The greed shot is the hero second shot, right, You're 336 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: gonna go for it. On the par five, you're gonna 337 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: pull three it. I give golf lessons NonStop. I just 338 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of golfers that are non competitive 339 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: elite tour players, college golfers. I just don't see a 340 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of golfers that are good at hitting three woods. 341 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I just don't see a lot of golfers that are 342 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: really really good at hitting four and five woods. So 343 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: par fives you can or to mold in shape and 344 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: move your practice to practice for far fives. Okay, let 345 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: me work on my hybrids. If I've got hybrids in 346 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: my bag, right, let me work on my wedges. And 347 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: on the driving range, you can kind of set up 348 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: a par five. Okay. You can give yourself on the 349 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: driving range, pick out some flags and say, okay, that's 350 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: my fairway. Right, I'm going to pick a club and 351 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: my only goal is to hit that fairway. And then 352 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do is say, okay, I'm not 353 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: going to go for this. So then again, give yourself 354 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: that same fairway that you use for the par five 355 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: off the tee on the driving range, right, and say, okay, 356 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: now I'm going to hit a golf club that is 357 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: going to go into my imaginary fairway on the driving range. Right. 358 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: So if you want to hit driver, go ahead and 359 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: hit driver, but you need to hit the fairway right. 360 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: If you're not going to hit driver, choose a golf 361 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: club that you know you can hit your imaginary fairway 362 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: on the driving range, and then pick a club that 363 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: you know you can hit your imaginary fairway and experiment 364 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: with that. Maybe that's a five iron, maybe that's a 365 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: six iron. Maybe it's one of your hybrids. If you're 366 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: a better golfer, maybe it's one of your woods, maybe 367 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: it's your three wood. But I think if you can 368 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: start to play imaginary par five on the driving range, 369 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: it really does help you when you get to the 370 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: golf course and play par fives, and you can set 371 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: up and say, okay, let me look at my scorecard 372 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: at my home club and play this imaginary par five 373 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: on the driving range. So again we're gonna give an 374 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: arbitrary number five hundred and thirty, right, so let me 375 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: go ahead and hit this club and then say, okay, 376 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go for it, going to lay 377 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: back on the imaginary par five on the driving range. 378 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: I think if you can start to practice that and 379 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: start to think on all of the par fives at 380 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: your home course, where do I want my third shot from? Okay, 381 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: what yardage do I want my third shot from? And 382 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: obviously you want your third shot from the fairway from 383 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: the short grass. Then if you get really really good 384 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: at that, then you can start to maybe think a 385 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: little bit more strategy wise. Okay, where is the pin today? Okay, 386 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: I've hit the fairway, standing in the middle of the fairway, 387 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and lay up, But where's 388 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: the pin? It's the pin in the back right, it's 389 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: the pin in the back left, wherever that is. And 390 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: then you can start to if you really feel confident 391 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: and you've done the work and done the practice, then 392 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: you can kind of get fancy and say, Okay, do 393 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: I want to be on the left hand side of 394 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: the fairway from my layer up because that gives me 395 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: a better opportunity to get to a back right pin. 396 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: Do I want to be on the right side of 397 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: the fairway because the pin is on the left hand side. 398 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: That's strategy, right, that is course management, that's playing. It 399 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: takes a while, it takes a lot of practice to 400 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: get to that point, but I think that the problems 401 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: are you don't really have a plan. Number one, it's 402 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: a greed problem. You think you have to go to it. 403 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of math that the majority of golfers 404 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: that play par fives they just completely ignore. No one 405 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: ever thinks about the layup right, Nobody ever thinks about 406 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: where their third shot is going to be. So the 407 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: non negotiables on par five, get it in the fairway. 408 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: Don't care what club you have to do to do that. 409 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Off the tee, get the ball in the fair if 410 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: you want to break the scoring barriers, if you want 411 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: to lower your handicap, the goal for going out, you're 412 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna go play eighteen holes at your home course and 413 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: you've got four par fives. The goal is all right, 414 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: my number one goal today is to hit the fairway 415 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: on all the par fives. Then if you can go 416 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: for it, you feel really good about your golf swing. 417 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: If you're the type of player that has the game 418 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: to go for part five, then it's a risk rewards situation. 419 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: No account was really really struggling on par five, and 420 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: I said to him, I mean, he's one of the 421 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: best amateurs in the world, right, He's got a ton 422 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: of Speed lost to the finals of the usm and 423 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four to hose Eli by a stair. Played 424 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: in the Masters last year, played in the US Open 425 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: last year, right, And I said to him in practice, 426 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: what I want you to start doing at your home course. 427 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: If there are four par fives, you aren't allowed to 428 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: hit driver on half of those. You have to hit 429 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: an iron, and you can't even hit one of your woods. 430 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: You have to hit an iron off the te on 431 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: two of the four par fives. Just get the golf 432 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: ball and play. So thinking about par fives, thinking about scoring, 433 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: thinking about strategy, I think is really really important. And 434 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: I think if you can game plan the par fives, 435 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: I think it's some of the lowest hanging fruit out there. 436 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: To the goal being I do not give strokes away 437 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: on the par fives. So a great a great goal 438 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six would be to say, I am 439 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: going to just try and make as many pars on 440 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: the par fives as I can. That is my goal today. 441 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: All four are three. You play a really really tough 442 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: course two of the par fives, right, But the majority 443 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: of us have four par fives every time we play. 444 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: And I think a great goal for twenty twenty. Every 445 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: time you play those par fives, judge your round of 446 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: golf afterwards, not by the score, but hey, how did 447 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: to do on the par fives? Was I able to 448 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: make par in all of them? Was I able to 449 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: not lose strokes on them? And I think if you 450 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: can start to think better when you're standing on the 451 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: tee on the par fives at your home course, I 452 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: am confident that you would see a big, big shift 453 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: in your scoring average, in your handicap and the scores 454 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: that you shoot on a consistent basis. Think better on 455 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: the par five. Thanks everyone for listening, Rate, review, subscribe 456 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. It's the Son of a 457 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: Butcher podcast