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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's Coast to Coast AM. Connie willis here with you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for you guys, writing, in, texting, emailing.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that it is so hard to get to

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Speaker 3: all of them. I do my best. Thank you again,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for that. Tonight Our guest Tom kat

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Speaker 3: Cantrell is with us, and you can learn more about him,

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Speaker 3: check out his books, all that kind of stuff at

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Speaker 3: Tomcantreil dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's T H O M.

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Speaker 3: And then Cantrell is c A N t R A

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Speaker 3: L L dot com. You can always go to our

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Speaker 3: website and you'll, you know, you can look for tonight's

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Speaker 3: show and you can see where to go. In fact,

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Speaker 3: you can click right on the link because we've got

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Speaker 3: it there for you. He's got books and information all

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Speaker 3: sorts of things like that happening.

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Speaker 2: So Tom, you know time flies. I want to ask you.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you some some questions before we

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Speaker 3: get to the space and the future, okay, because only you,

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Speaker 3: you know, I want I want to get these answers

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Speaker 3: from you. So we're learning, we're learning from the man.

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Speaker 3: Tonight Okay, So who are the Bigfoot? And is that

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Speaker 3: the proper name?

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Speaker 4: No, that's that's just just something that has added on

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Speaker 4: to him. I call him Sasquatch, which is also a

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Speaker 4: name that was given to them. It's a variation on

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Speaker 4: a hals uh Indian word which I can't pronounce. And

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Speaker 4: but they don't care. I've asked specifically, is that bothersome? No,

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Speaker 4: it describes us, you know. That's that's their attitude. Uh,

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Speaker 4: They're kind of kind of easy about what we say anyway,

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Speaker 4: because they kind of looking down their nose at us.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We're primitive. We're primitive.

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Speaker 4: We are we are, and we're dangerous. We're dangerous. You know. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I've said, I've said for the last thirty years, forty

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Speaker 4: years something like that, that the most dangerous thing in

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Speaker 4: the woods were shoes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, agreed.

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Speaker 4: You know it's been that way. It's been that way

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Speaker 4: for ages. I have never, in all my years now

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Speaker 4: dealing with them, never felt threatened. Now have I gotten

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Speaker 4: in a place where I wasn't supposed to be and

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Speaker 4: they wanted me out of there? Yes? Yes, you know

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Speaker 4: what I did?

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Speaker 2: I left? Yeah, exactly exactly. You know it. I know,

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Speaker 2: I know. I try to tell that to people.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, look, you know, they they don't have to

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Speaker 3: kill you or tear you apart like they could. They

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Speaker 3: just have to breathe really heavy or growl and let

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Speaker 3: you know that that's far enough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you should, you should, you know it should. If

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Speaker 4: you're out there, you should have sense enough to know

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Speaker 4: your environment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and know when.

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Speaker 4: You're not wanted. Uh, you know, it's just that that's simple.

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Speaker 2: How long do they live? How do to me?

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Speaker 4: How many one hundred years?

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Speaker 2: Only I thought it was going to be more.

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Speaker 4: Now at one hundred years, some of them go through

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Speaker 4: a transition and those become the elders. My teacher is

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Speaker 4: one of those. Arla's Kashima is one of those. Kashima

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Speaker 4: is several several hundred years old.

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Speaker 2: Year before mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I was just letting people know that was Arlet Colette

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Speaker 3: William or Arle Colette or whatever she is today, our woman,

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Speaker 3: our friend, she's been here.

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Speaker 3: So when you say that they become elders, are you

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Speaker 3: saying can you still see them or are they more

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Speaker 3: just talking with you? No?

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Speaker 4: They I see my teacher quite often. Uh, but they

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Speaker 4: talk to me more more than I see them, really,

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Speaker 4: but I see him enough. No, He's there and real

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Speaker 3: Ah to be able to get that, you know, they

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Speaker 3: don't understand. Okay, they don't understand. Some people don't know that.

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Speaker 3: It goes that much further that they hang out with

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Speaker 3: play with you, and but also give you the goods.

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Speaker 4: Too, and they also heal you, cur you.

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Speaker 2: What have you noticed with that? How have you seen that?

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Speaker 4: In twenty fourteen, fifteen, maybe thirteen, twenty thirteen, Yeah, was

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Speaker 4: Suit again, my friend Suit. I picked her up and

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Speaker 4: we headed for southwest pardon me. Was headed for Oregon,

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Speaker 4: of Autumn Williams group, and camped together. There were ten

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Speaker 4: since that's my bane. My heart's in asia fibrillation has

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Speaker 4: been for twenty five years now, and that day it

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Speaker 4: was nothing was running un seen. I was bad. I

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Speaker 4: was really bad. Jeff Brown, one of the people there,

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Speaker 4: Jim Demain another one, had a conversation and they felt

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Speaker 4: they would probably be carrying me out in the back

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Speaker 4: of the pickup the next day, and I felt they

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Speaker 4: probably weren't wrong. I knew I was going to be

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Speaker 4: going to town the next day that I couldn't take anymore.

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Speaker 4: When I went to bed, and in the middle, well

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Speaker 4: late late night, not yet morning, I was awakened by

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Speaker 4: a sound of buzzing sound coming out of my chest.

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Speaker 4: Sue was awake. When I opened my eyes, she said,

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Speaker 4: where's that sound coming from? And I pointed in my shoulder,

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Speaker 4: right out of my chest, and there was a burnmark there.

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Speaker 4: For quite some time afterwards, I have photographs of that

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Speaker 4: of the burn mark where this transition took place. This

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Speaker 4: a half four hours that had been going on. I

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Speaker 4: could see the two sasquatch outside our kent. They were

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Speaker 4: just Sue's mash was at one end of the tent,

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Speaker 4: mine was at the other. She called my mattress princetss

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Speaker 4: mattress because it was thirteen inches thick. So I couldn't

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Speaker 4: feel a pee, you know. But when I got up

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Speaker 4: that morning. Next morning, Jim was just starting the fire

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Speaker 4: and I walked out, and then I felt better than

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Speaker 4: I felt in years.

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Speaker 3: The fact that you got up that next morning is

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Speaker 3: pretty you.

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Speaker 4: Know, amazing, amazing, Yes it is. Yeah, Okay, where I

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Speaker 4: an amazing change.

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Speaker 3: That's some quick healing there. And you've had that happen before.

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Speaker 3: Other people have spoken the same thing. I've recognized that

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Speaker 3: even though there might be maybe some dudes hanging out

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Speaker 3: younger juvenile hanging out with each other, I have recognized

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Speaker 3: that it is normally, as you know, besides those kind

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Speaker 4: Yes it is, Yes it is. That's one time in

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, Bob Gibbon and I went to Georgia for

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Speaker 4: had the fourth foresight to reds a cabin because I

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Speaker 4: can't camp anymore, but that time I couldn't either. If

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Speaker 4: heavy equipment to hit me back on my feet.

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Speaker 2: Dude, glamping is the way to go. That's the I'm all.

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Speaker 2: I love to glamp. That's just said.

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Speaker 3: They still won't come up to you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you don't have.

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Speaker 3: To lay on the ground like you and and gimbling Bob, gimblin.

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Speaker 3: Let me lay on my law. I'll put my head

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Speaker 3: on a log. I don't even need a blanket. Come

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Speaker 2: Cowboys. Cowboys, I tell you crazy.

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Speaker 3: They're spiders all over you. Just saying wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: that brings me to something. I'm sorry, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: interrupt you here because that brings me into something. You

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Speaker 3: showed it on my Blue Rock talk show as much

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Speaker 2: You had showed it there first that I remember it was.

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Speaker 3: I think it was somebody else that took the picture though,

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Speaker 3: and I cannot think of Davis. Was it Davy's anyway,

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Speaker 3: they were It was a guy and a girl. They

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Speaker 3: were laying out somewhere camping wherever you guys were, and

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Speaker 3: they were outside on the ground.

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Speaker 2: There was a picnic table and it was just a shot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a trail camera what, but

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Speaker 3: one was squatted down right over his head.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, that was Adam Adam okay.

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Speaker 2: Adam Davies okay, all right, okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that happened at Marble Belt. Uh oh it was

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Speaker 4: a yeah, it was a cold.

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Speaker 3: Night there, and one squatted looking over him, squatted out

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Speaker 3: looking over him as he's sleeping. Oh my gosh, you

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Speaker 3: see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you told me in the picture. Oh yeah, Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh. That's a great one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So I know I remember something before where

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Speaker 3: you had said there's only so many on the planet.

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Speaker 4: Right, what's that about? State of Washington? That's about three

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Speaker 4: hundred okay, And I've identified all the clans here by

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Speaker 4: I'm having a by number and by population number, and

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Speaker 4: that's three hundred Sasquatch in a state that has twenty

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Speaker 4: five thousand bears. Now, I have never, in all my

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Speaker 4: years as a forester, a logger, and a hunter ever

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Speaker 4: found a bear carca and there's twenty five thousand of

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Speaker 4: are of finding a Sasquatch body when there's three hundred

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Speaker 4: of them in the stake in seventy five thousand square miles.

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Speaker 4: Do you believe in living in years? Ok So they

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Speaker 4: could be like three a year that die.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that you know you hear these stories,

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Speaker 3: Oh one was shot or somebody killed one once?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's ever happened. I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: It does happen, has happened. Do you think so that

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Speaker 4: you fallen in California? Did it? He'd been feeding the

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Speaker 4: mother and son child for two years and then he

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Speaker 4: shot and killed both of them. That's where the material

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Speaker 4: for DNA was got to Melvio catch them.

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Speaker 3: Now, I thought that came from Dennis full in the

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Speaker 3: Pancake House and the Ericson project.

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Speaker 4: No, that part of it. Did it did, But the

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Speaker 4: so called steak came from this other I won't even

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Speaker 4: say his name, but his friends as when the when

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Speaker 4: the first DNA came back, the findings came back, and

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Speaker 4: it showed humans so much. They got scared for him

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Speaker 4: because he was going to talk about arresting him because

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Speaker 4: he killed a human person.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you believe that story, you believe that's real?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've lived through it. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I just can't imagine.

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Speaker 3: And from the way they sink and they know what

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Speaker 3: we're going to sink, they know what they had.

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Speaker 4: He had been feeding this pair for two years. I

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Speaker 4: don't think I think they were into him further than

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Speaker 4: that and trusted and didn't didn't go that that level

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Speaker 4: with him. But to finish that story, his friends and

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Speaker 4: went and took that same sight and put Bear there

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Speaker 4: to be to deteriorate. Then brought everybody in. Let's go

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Speaker 4: check this side out and find get some more uh

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Speaker 4: sasques DNA, knowing they had substituted Mayor. That's where all

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Speaker 4: the crop came from the attack Melvill catching one of

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Speaker 4: her DNA study was from that maneuver. But that was

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Speaker 4: that was to protect his butt.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well why why protect him? Why why protect him?

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Speaker 4: Because law was looking at him.

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Speaker 2: Well, so what he did it was his friends you

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Speaker 2: still did it.

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Speaker 4: And birds of a feather.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're gonna shoot and kill something. You're trying

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Speaker 3: to kill something, especially like that, which you know if

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Speaker 3: you ever see.

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Speaker 2: One, they well, first of all, it'll blow your mind.

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Speaker 3: If you ever see one, you'll be like WHOA, well

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Speaker 3: what you know, it's just really especially your first one.

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Speaker 3: Always all the ones I've seen, I'm like, ah, but

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Speaker 3: when you know the last thing you're going to think

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Speaker 3: of is wanting I'm gonna kill one.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got that mind already because.

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Speaker 3: These people they are they they look like us. I

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Speaker 3: mean they're hairer and they're bigger, but they walk around

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Speaker 3: they're like us.

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Speaker 4: So there's too many people that had rifles and had

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Speaker 4: intended to shoot one, but when they looked at it

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Speaker 4: through the scope and looked like they were shooting in

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Speaker 4: the person and they couldn't do it. Well, just you know,

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Speaker 4: lots of stories about that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm listening to you, and I trust you,

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Speaker 3: you know all that kind of thing. But I still

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Speaker 3: it's just still out on that. I just don't think

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Speaker 3: that they could allow it to happen. I think they

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Speaker 3: could go back. I think they can change time and

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Speaker 3: make all that change.

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