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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to scrubbing In. Did I get

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Speaker 2: you there?

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Speaker 1: Scrubbing It's like a collab?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I'm scrubbed in. Yes, I just came

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Speaker 1: from a mammogram, so I literally did just scrub in. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I was just in one of those scrubby things that

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Speaker 1: they doesn't ever close. They're like put the thing in

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Speaker 1: the front, then you just walk out holding it with

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Speaker 1: your elbows, hoping for the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, well, in case you were wondering,

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Speaker 2: Becca Tilly is not here, Kelty Knight is sitting in.

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Speaker 1: Her store, very happy to fill in, uh while the

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Speaker 1: kids vacation and the workers work.

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Speaker 2: You know, Okay, so why are you not there? I wanted, well,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to talk to you about this,

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Speaker 2: and it's actually so perfect that you are the co

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Speaker 2: host today because everybody was asking me like, why aren't

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Speaker 2: you at Ally's wedding? Weren't you at Alley's wedding? And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, nobody understands this working world better than Keelty Night,

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Speaker 2: So I can't just take vacation. Really when I want

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Speaker 2: to take vacation, Like my schedule has not been my

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Speaker 2: own for like a decade, and nobody seems to like

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Speaker 2: not even my closest friends seemed to really grasp it.

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Speaker 2: And so when we got invited, I love Alli and

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Speaker 2: I obviously wanted to go to Amsterdam so fun. She

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Speaker 2: needed kind of like the final head count by January,

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Speaker 2: and I was just like, I can't see January. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh that's so early. Is it really well for May? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was like around January she needed kind of like

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Speaker 2: the final Maybe it was sort of the end of January,

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Speaker 2: but she needed like the final yes or no. So

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Speaker 2: we were trying to make it work, and then we

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Speaker 2: couldn't figure out the kid's schedule, so Robbie wasn't gonna

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Speaker 2: go with me. I was gonna go to myself. And

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Speaker 2: then I was like, going to Amsterdam from a Thursday

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Speaker 2: to a Sunday just feels just too much on my

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Speaker 2: aging body, yep, And so I had to decline I

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Speaker 2: couldn't go, and I was like, I'm having so much

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Speaker 2: fomo see everything, like I wish I could have been there.

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Speaker 2: And I went to her bachelorette because I really wanted

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Speaker 2: to like celebrate her old and celebrate. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: having like a lot of fomo watching everything that's going

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Speaker 1: This is the really hard thing. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: we just talked about this, Like the girls. Becca's over

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Speaker 1: there so she can be cause she can go wherever

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Speaker 1: she want, like your backa, sorry about your backa, because

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Speaker 1: she's like free kind of freelance, right, Like she does

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Speaker 1: like caution to the wind, can go and then she

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Speaker 1: could stay for two weeks after she pays for that

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Speaker 1: super expensive ticket to Europe, right, you know, whereas you

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Speaker 1: have to be back for Monday morning. Our girls and

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Speaker 1: Lady Gang are the same way, and I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, guys, like if we don't get this done

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Speaker 1: but but later, I'm going to be It's very stressful

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Speaker 1: that's the risk you take when you're someone that has

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Speaker 1: she I'm sure she understood. It's just it's really hard

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Speaker 2: And she didn't, I mean, she totally understood. There was

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Speaker 2: And actually, it's so funny because I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: No, I was looking into Europe, but I think if

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Speaker 1: Like it's good weather, good weather, and like everyone you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the vibe. It's like the vibe I think

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Speaker 2: Not quite okay, close a couple months, and there.

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Speaker 1: Where was the dedication to this marriage that I saw

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Speaker 2: So I think what I realized is that, like there's

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love a Santa Barbara weather, and it was

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Speaker 1: Where did Alex and Josephine get married. I went to

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't that I didn't want to do a

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Speaker 2: in his parents' yard. I really loved it. It's the

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Speaker 1: LA's beautiful weather.

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Speaker 2: No, that's what you say until you're like planning a wedding,

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Speaker 1: We had great weather August seventeenth. She always points out

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Speaker 2: You know. No, you're right, it's very landslide. You're right. No,

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Speaker 2: you know it's like roll the dice and you don't

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Speaker 1: Lately, let me tell you something. So Jack from Lady Gang,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just it was like you flew to Paris,

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Speaker 2: So that was like my first thing when we were

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Speaker 2: that's not plane train car ride, Like, ill, that's crazy

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Speaker 2: plane train car ride so we found plane, plane and

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Speaker 1: I have to really love someone even do a connection.

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Speaker 1: But when we finally got there, the weather was so bad.

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Speaker 1: Like she she had Farmers Almanact years in advance, being

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Speaker 1: like this is the date. And she was in Paris

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Speaker 1: the whole week before the wedding like trying to like

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Speaker 1: and she was texting us just hysterically crying, like it's

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Speaker 1: rain on the wedding day. It's going to rain on

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Speaker 1: the wedding day. And up to like the night before,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna rain tomorrow. This whole wedding is. I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 2: it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: You got to relax the day the sun is out,

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Speaker 1: it's so beautiful, like perfect weather. She wasted that whole

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Speaker 2: Correct, That's kind of where I've been. But I I

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Speaker 2: she told me about this other store and she's like, oh,

434
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Speaker 2: you shoul books. I looked online and it was like

435
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Speaker 2: fifty bucks to reserve and I was like, that's so weird.

436
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Speaker 2: It goes towards the cost of your dress if you

437
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,920
Speaker 2: buy the dress, if you buy the right, if you

438
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 2: buy the dress there. But I'm like, I do think.

439
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,720
Speaker 2: But she was like, yeah, they're doing this now because

440
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Speaker 2: a lot of people, like you said, just want to

441
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Speaker 2: do it for the for the videos and the whatever.

442
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Speaker 2: And I was like, it's so funny because if I like,

443
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Speaker 2: if I had one of the dresses I tried on first,

444
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Speaker 2: if I loved it, I would have been sold, like

445
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Speaker 2: I don't want to try on I don't want to

446
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Speaker 2: try one hundred dresses, but I want to try on

447
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Speaker 2: like five.

448
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 1: But you've tried, You've worn a lot of gowns, so

449
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Speaker 1: you know in your hosting and at your at the

450
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Speaker 1: iHeart like, I mean, you've worn dresses.

451
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Speaker 2: You've worn gowns, so I know what's better on you

452
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Speaker 2: know what.

453
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Speaker 1: You've tried on a lot of dresses, so you know

454
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Speaker 1: what is going to be good on your body. Whereas

455
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Speaker 1: like our everyday scrubber, she may not have done that

456
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Speaker 1: many maybe her prom, maybe a graduation, maybe a wedding,

457
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,879
Speaker 1: maybe a bridesmaid's dress which is probably made with like

458
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Speaker 1: towels and you tie it together in the strap side

459
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Speaker 1: thing you want to have it as like you know,

460
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Speaker 1: those are another like really made couture with a corset.

461
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Speaker 2: And all that stuff and it.

462
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Speaker 1: So you know, I think it's I think it's exciting

463
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Speaker 1: to trying the dresses, and but I get that you

464
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Speaker 1: would be a little farther along in the process than

465
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Speaker 1: that every normy girl. Every yes, you're not a normy bride.

466
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Speaker 1: You're a special bride and you're so many bride. Thank

467
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Speaker 1: you Keilty Knight, What do you think the scrubs will

468
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Speaker 1: do for you? Not the scrubs, the scrubbers. What do

469
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Speaker 1: you think they'll do when you get married? Do you

470
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Speaker 1: think they'll like do like a big zoom meeting where

471
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Speaker 1: they all hold up like hearts or something.

472
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Speaker 2: I don't know that would make me so emotional. I

473
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Speaker 2: bet they would. Honestly, When I think about stuff with

474
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Speaker 2: my wedding, I get like really emotional about it, Like

475
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Speaker 2: it's like so crazy. I'm like so excited, and like

476
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about, like did you see that meme

477
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Speaker 2: with the dog the girl that made her dog her bouquet? Yeah,

478
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 2: I was thinking about making my dog my bouquet, And

479
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 2: like thinking about all this stuff makes me like so emotional.

480
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if I like, I don't

481
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Speaker 2: know how I'm gonna do it. Like the day of, I.

482
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Speaker 1: Feel that it's gonna be awesome. I'm gonna do exactly

483
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Speaker 1: like this, but even prettier with a waterproof Messcara.

484
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Speaker 2: I'm actually scared. Like I was texting back after Alley's

485
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Speaker 2: I'm like, did she cry?

486
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Speaker 1: Was it?

487
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Speaker 2: Alley's not really emotional and She's like she got teary

488
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Speaker 2: at some point, but like it wasn't like a torential downpour,

489
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I get so emotional, like I'm scared.

490
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna make it like twenty minutes without crying.

491
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Speaker 2: That's great, That's not great, it's great. It is what

492
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Speaker 2: it is.

493
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Speaker 1: My husband cried in our vows.

494
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Speaker 2: I cried.

495
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Speaker 1: I love to cry. Crying feels great. You can get

496
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Speaker 1: a beta blocker, though, if you're really worried about it.

497
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Speaker 2: What is that? A beta blocker? You? God, you know what.

498
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Speaker 1: It's just she's had all these jobs and people just

499
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Speaker 1: love her. You never taken a beta blocker for an

500
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Speaker 1: audition before? No, Oh my god. A beta blocker basically

501
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 1: blocks your emotions and your nerves and people Hollywood, people

502
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Speaker 1: other than you, and I've done it many times. Take

503
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Speaker 1: it when they have like a big red carpet, or

504
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Speaker 1: like when I was auditioning for stuff and it like

505
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Speaker 1: a lot of actors and actresses take them before big

506
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Speaker 1: auditions because it calms your nervous system and you don't

507
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Speaker 1: get the heart beats, you don't get the sweats, you

508
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Speaker 1: don't get the like nervous energy that makes you TALKTA

509
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Speaker 1: blocker like b Eta beta. You know what it is,

510
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Speaker 1: you guys do, right? A beta blocker? No, you've never

511
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Speaker 1: Derek knows.

512
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've heard of it for some reason.

513
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Speaker 2: I thought it was eye drops.

514
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's like a little pill you take

515
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Speaker 1: in it turns off your yes. So you could get

516
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Speaker 1: a beta blocker. But I don't think you want to

517
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Speaker 1: do that on your wedding day.

518
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Speaker 2: But you should definitely get a beta blocker on my

519
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Speaker 2: wedding day.

520
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to like, I mean, I think you'll still cry,

521
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Speaker 1: but it might just calm you down, like I.

522
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Speaker 2: Want to cry, let yourself go all day long.

523
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Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever normally is going to happen to you usually

524
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Speaker 1: let naturally happen to you.

525
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a beautiful thing.

526
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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. And you know what, you just

527
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Speaker 1: know that you have to have, Like I told Jack

528
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Speaker 1: the same thing because Jack Jack from Ladygang. I keep

529
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Speaker 1: saying it because I don't want to just be like

530
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Speaker 1: this Jack person works for On her, she had like

531
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Speaker 1: she has crazy anxiety, like really bad anxiety, and she

532
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Speaker 1: was very emotional as well. And Jared, who she married,

533
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Speaker 1: is very sweaty. He's like got long hair and he's

534
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Speaker 1: very sweaty guy, and so I was like, you have

535
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Speaker 1: to get like really cute handmade. Maybe you get like

536
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Speaker 1: a scrubber who's like real crafty to make it handmade

537
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: little doily like handkerchiefs with your wedding date on it,

538
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: and you have that just in your hand, and it's

539
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: in your bouquet, and it's like it's just in your

540
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: hand all day, so you can just wipe your little

541
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Speaker 1: tears all day, but a very dainty like.

542
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Speaker 2: They're not gonna be little tears. They're gonna bridger tin.

543
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna bridge you or you could do that.

544
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Speaker 1: What what is the housewife? That she folds it into

545
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Speaker 1: a perfect triangle and just as the inner I think

546
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Speaker 1: it's Candace.

547
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Speaker 2: You're talking to the wrong girl. Oh my god, this bang?

548
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Speaker 1: How dare you let me have this during this whole thing?

549
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh my god. Okay, I want to talk

550
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: about you. Okay, So now let's take a Can we

551
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: talk about your swimsuit thing? Yeah, but let's take us

552
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: quick beat and then we'll come right back and we're back.

553
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Speaker 2: It's very funny because when you guys are talking that,

554
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: I was literally thinking I might have to take all

555
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: my photos, like before my wedding, because I'm going to

556
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: be crying so much.

557
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: I think you could take your beauty shots before the

558
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Speaker 1: day before or something not the day before, in the morning,

559
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: like after you read it.

560
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Speaker 2: Right, take a beta blocker or whatever. Photos. I'm going

561
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: to do some research.

562
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm not against I'm really not against you doing a

563
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 1: wedding photoshoot on a mountaintop, you guys after the fact.

564
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Speaker 1: Going back, I don't know why people don't do that.

565
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Speaker 2: I'm very sensitive to drugs though, because when we went

566
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Speaker 2: to Disneyland yesterday, I took a drama mean and I

567
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: literally felt like a like I was like a horse

568
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: that was tranquilized. I was like, down, Well.

569
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Speaker 1: That's what drama meine is. And honestly it was less drowsy.

570
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

571
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: It said, less drowsy on the botting. So it's just

572
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Speaker 1: like a little bit of drama meine, Yes, but drama

573
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: too right, less drowsy times too, Like drama meane is

574
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Speaker 1: what you take when you have seasickness when you're on

575
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Speaker 1: a cruise ship or yeah, for the rides, but I

576
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: just feel like, maybe just don't go on the rides.

577
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: Well, what do you do when you've got two kids

578
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: that want to go on the rides with you?

579
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: Can they not go with their father?

580
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's bonding. You can bond in line with

581
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: that big pickle. You know, it's so different. It's so different.

582
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: If you had step kids, you would be on those

583
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: rides with a smile on your face.

584
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Speaker 1: You get barfie on the rides, very barfie. Okay. I

585
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: just feel like the dramamine, Like it just feels like

586
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: have you seen that movie Bridesmaids where Kristin Wig gets

587
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: drunk or.

588
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Speaker 2: Like that is that what she took? Dramamine?

589
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: She took something right and then so she was like, Hi, yeah,

590
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: like that's what I felt like. Yeah, I just feel

591
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: like this was such the wrong decision. You probably actually

592
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: ruin the day. You ruin the day because you were

593
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: not on the planet. You were zombie.

594
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Speaker 2: It was zombie. But you know, there is something called

595
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: benign was it called bonine bonanni? Bonini bonine. It's like

596
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: it's like dramamine without the loosey goosey.

597
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so why didn't you take that?

598
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Speaker 2: I didn't know about this. I'm like not a like

599
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm not a drug girl. Clearly what you don't say,

600
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: so I don't really take anything, you know what I mean?

601
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: So like, why why then.

602
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Speaker 1: Walk me through this? You're a lady who doesn't take anything.

603
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: And then you're like, you know what I'm gonna do

604
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: not one, but two drama meine at Disneyland.

605
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Speaker 2: Cause Saturday I felt so awful. At the end of

606
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Speaker 2: the day, I was like I cannot do this today.

607
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Speaker 2: Two days yeah, I was like, I cannot do this

608
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Speaker 2: another day without taking something. Okay, So we get this

609
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: at the Disneyland gift shop. They're like, this will be

610
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: great for the rides. Pop it in Sunday morning. I

611
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: went on like the in Credit coaster two times in

612
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Speaker 2: a row, and I was like, oh, I'm feeling great,

613
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: let me pop another one.

614
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Speaker 1: Nope.

615
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Speaker 2: Like two hours later, I was down down.

616
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Speaker 1: Do you know that I've never been on a roller

617
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Speaker 1: coaster in.

618
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Speaker 2: Your whole life? Never. You fascinate me so much.

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested in a thrill, not at all.

620
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Speaker 2: Why I'm just.

621
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Speaker 1: Not interested in it. I don't like a roller coaster.

622
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: So how did you go to Disneyland?

623
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Speaker 1: I go to Disneyland, the happiest place on earth.

624
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: It's so happy.

625
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: The big Pickle the Trurou. I mean, there's so many

626
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: delicious fun things to do at Disneyland. Rise the Rise

627
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: of the Resistance, I love the shooting game, the to

628
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: At Story shooting game when you shoot the bank buzz

629
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: like your buzz. So much to do And for my

630
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: thirt never been on a ride. No, the only ride

631
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: I've been on. It was my thirtieth birthday and I

632
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: ended up at Disneyland with John Stamos, who's like the

633
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: biggest Disneyland person of all time, and we got VIP

634
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: John Stamos Disneyland and my friend that I was there with,

635
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Speaker 1: she was like, let's go on Space Mountain. And I

636
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh okay. And I was like, but I

637
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: don't do roller coasters, so I'll wait it out. She's like, no, no, no,

638
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: you just go on this trolley and it takes you

639
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: through the mountain and you just see mountain things on

640
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: the screens. And I was like, oh, okay, Well I'll

641
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: like that because like, I can do a ride, but

642
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: not a roller coaster. Anyway, I got on Space Mountain.

643
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: It's not a ride where you ride it thing and

644
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: look at things. It's a roller coaster. So that's the

645
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: only roller coaster I've ever been on screamed so loud.

646
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: I hate every minute of it, and I still have

647
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: dreams about it. And then I went on TikTok and

648
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: watched Space Mountain with the lights on, which is terrifying.

649
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I've never seen light picture arm up this much. The

650
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: bottom of the last part is right. You could get

651
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: decapitated at any second. It is so dangerous.

652
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. I went on Today's Mountain twice

653
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Did you get the picture? Yeah? I got

654
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: the picture. I didn't need it, honestly, you were probably

655
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: It's very very bad, you know what. I'm proud of you, though,

656
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: Wait a step mom at up? Thank you? You know,

657
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: you know, just just doing the most, just really do it.

658
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we need a new solution. I would

659
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: love bonini.

660
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm bo n nanny, nanny, Okay.

661
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: I just think also, that would not be the thing

662
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: that I did with my step kids. I would be like,

663
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: why don't we go to park and look at the clouds?

664
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: We do that. We go to the park with our

665
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: dog and like play around with her. But this was

666
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: like a fun, you know, like an experience. It was

667
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: an experience it was an an experience. I had a

668
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: lot of fun. I did you, Yeah, I did.

669
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: Like, do you remember any of it?

670
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Saturday, I remember all of Saturday.

671
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: And did you have to lay down? Did you pass

672
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: out a little bit?

673
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: Uh no, But I'm like surprised on Sunday that I

674
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: made it to the car.

675
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: What do you think doctor Gray would think of this?

676
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: She would have She would have hit me with two

677
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: ccs of EPI for sure. Speaking of CC's, there's the

678
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: most content we've had on the show in the past

679
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: six months. That's true. Yeah, okay, speaking of CC's and Meredith.

680
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: Gray, you auditioned for Miami Swum Week.

681
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: No, you got a hysterectomy. Oh yes, Oh my god,

682
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: what a turn A lot of time. No, but I

683
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: want to talk about it because I obviously follow you

684
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: and I don't really know the whole story of kind

685
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: of like why you did it?

686
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like just for fun it was super easy? No,

687
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: But like what was it that like rang the alarm bells?

688
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

689
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: So I had been sort of faking it till I

690
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: made it for like a decade. I've been feeling really

691
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: awful and like when I would see you or.

692
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: I'd see I thought that was your hashimotos.

693
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Definitely, it's all a wicked uh. Like I'm like a

694
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: what they call it when they knit, and it's a blanket,

695
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: it's all. It's not a blanket, tapestry, it's a tapestry, tapestry, mosaic.

696
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: It's a mosaic, it's a tapestry. I think all of

697
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: it is connected because and I think hashimotos and thyroid

698
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: stuff was just the easiest to diagnose because a bunch

699
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: of years ago, I was losing hair and I was

700
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: losing sight, and I had these rashes and we've talked

701
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: about this a lot. And then I went and they

702
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: were like, well, your blood seems kind of normal, but

703
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: we're going to deep test deeper and deeper, and then

704
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: ended up saying hashimotos. And I went on thyroid medicine.

705
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: And then every time I felt sort of tired and

706
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: horrible after that, I was like, oh, my thyroid must

707
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: be off, and I would go get it tested and

708
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: they're like, your thyroid's not off. You just need to sleep,

709
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: eat better, you know, take care, take care of meditate, right,

710
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: do you eat some sea moss gel? You know?

711
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: Whatever?

712
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it just started getting really bad. About two

713
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: and a half years ago, I ended up. I was

714
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: really ill. I felt so bad. I went to the

715
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: doctor and he was like, you have chronic fatigue syndrome

716
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: and you're just going to feel like this forever.

717
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh wow, forever. Crazy.

718
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: I was sleeping sixteen hours a day like I was

719
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: the worst that I had ever been. Then my homeopathic

720
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: doctor was like, well, you have mono and I was like, oh,

721
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: adult mono. Well that's like, who have I been kissing.

722
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: I've been married for over a decade. I'm like, this

723
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: is so wild. But I tested positive for mono. So

724
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: I took some time off work. I laid in bed

725
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: for three weeks. Eventually kind of started feeling better, but

726
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: not really. And then for two years I just never

727
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 1: felt right, and so I was working with four different doctors.

728
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: I had my homeopathic doctor, I had my guyano, I

729
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: had my surgeon, and I had an oncologist because my blood.

730
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: What they ended up figuring out over those two years

731
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: was that I have this blood condition called micro psyclic anemia,

732
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: which is a special anemia that does not you can't

733
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: eat a steak, you can't well. I'm also allergic to bovine,

734
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: which is steak. So any of the pills, any of

735
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: the iron supplements and stuff just made me so sick.

736
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: And so basically my blood cells are really small and

737
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: they don't grab on to the healthy blood the way

738
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: that they should. So a lot of that probably if

739
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I had known that ten years ago, like would have

740
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: maybe changed the diagnosis for everything, you know what I mean, Like,

741
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: I just think it's all connected at the root of

742
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: like how did you.

743
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: Not figure this out? What I'm saying is like what

744
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: was the missing like peace?

745
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: So when you normally go get a CDC CBC CDC panel,

746
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: there's like maybe twelve to seventeen blood tests on that,

747
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: and that's like what we get at our GINO appointment

748
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: every year, what the doctor's the end. The blood work

749
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: that ended up doing when I got desperate was sixty

750
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: pages long.

751
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it was so intense.

752
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: There was like, you know, an entire page full of anemia, ferretin, hemoglobin,

753
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: the you know. So my fareton was like five and

754
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be over two hundred. So that was

755
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: when they put the red flag on. And then I

756
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: started getting blood infusions and I did a bunch of them,

757
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: and it took and I felt better, and then I

758
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: six months later they went and it had dropped back

759
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: down to eight. So they were like, your body will

760
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: just not hold this. And so they're like, well, what

761
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: else is could this be causing this? I know it's

762
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: very confusing, but essentially it took a long time of

763
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: them giving me stuff and then it going out of

764
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: my body, giving me stuff and going out of my

765
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: body for them to realize that this specific type of

766
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: anemia was not like normally people that have really bad anemia,

767
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: they go get blood infusions and then they're good forever,

768
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So then the conversation was like, well,

769
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you're losing so much blood because your period. My pear's

770
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: so heavy because I was in perimenopause, and basically we're

771
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: pumping you with this infusion of iron every month and

772
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: then you're losing it all and it's this vicious cycle.

773
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: So that's where the hysterectomy came in. They made the decision.

774
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: All my doctors got together and they made decision that

775
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: they wanted to stop my period, and the options were

776
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: birth control, which I go absolutely nuts on birth control,

777
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: pogesterone pills, which I tried, and I got horrific, like

778
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: really bad cystic acne and like anything hormones like really

779
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: just messes me up. I do not feel well, and

780
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't imagine being on this for

781
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. And IUD my pelvis was

782
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: tilted wrong. I couldn't get an IUD. There's a surgery

783
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: called ablasion where they put essentially like an umbrella in

784
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: your vage and then they burn off the inner lining

785
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: of your uterus so you never get your period again,

786
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: but it can come back. But my uterus was heart shaped,

787
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: which is like very sweet, but I have like a

788
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: septum in the middle of it, so that the umbrella

789
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: doesn't work. So hysterectomy was the option. Holy So that's

790
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: when I decided to have the hysterectomy. I had it

791
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: about eight weeks after they made that decision, and then

792
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: I had the hysterectomy and then I've gone I've had

793
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: four more blood and fusions and now I'm six and

794
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: a half weeks postop. Do you feel good, Well, I've

795
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: had two non periods, which is a dream come true.

796
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you, Oh my god, it's so amazing.

797
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: To not get your period, like I still get all

798
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: because I get my ovaries, so I still have all

799
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: the symptoms, like I got kind of hungry and my

800
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: boobs were s like all that stuff. But like then

801
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: to not have the like massacre of all of it

802
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: was just really beautiful. But yeah, so I'm you know,

803
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: I feel good. I'm starting to really wake up. I'm

804
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: very I'm starting to be really sharp, which is amazing.

805
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Starting to feel better for sure. I mean I was

806
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: at a point t where, like I was at E News,

807
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: I was memorizing the what was on the teleprompter.

808
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: You couldn't see it.

809
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't see it. My eyes were so blurry.

810
00:34:48,200 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: That is so crazy. Yeah, honestly, like when you were,

811
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: like you were explaining this stuff to me about the

812
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: chronic fatigue, and I'm like, I don't see it in you,

813
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: Like I just never saw that in you. I see

814
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: hyper like strung out on you know what I mean,

815
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: like always on it, And I never saw any sort

816
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: of like I don't want to call it weakness because

817
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: it's not a weakness, but like any sort of fatigue

818
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: or tired or like, I never saw it on you.

819
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: So I don't know when I.

820
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Was really good at hiding it. I mean, I think

821
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Derek's here, my assistant. He saw a little bit before

822
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: my surgery, where like I would just be like sleeping

823
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: on my bench in the kitchen, Like when we had

824
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: ten minutes, I would just lay down for ten minutes

825
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: because I just could not walk, breathe. But I just

826
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: learned to like hop myself off on diet, coke and caffeine.

827
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Be a show pony, do the show. When it was

828
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: time to do a live show that you are our

829
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: guest at, or a podcast or be on TV or

830
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: host the thing, and I would completely crash. Like my husband,

831
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: bless his heart, like has seen like literally a dead

832
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: weight of a human has been married to one for

833
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: like a very long time. Where Like I there were

834
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: many days where he would get up and go to

835
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: work at eight thirty and I go in at like ten,

836
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: so I would be in bed when he left, and

837
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: then he would come home at six.

838
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: Thirty and I would already be back in bed.

839
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like just I never went to a birthday party,

840
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Like I made this whole thing about my personality, Like

841
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm antisocial, and I like I

842
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: just love work and so like, I don't want to

843
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: go to your event. I never went to the events.

844
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: I never went to the book launches, I never went

845
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: to the birthday parties, I never went on the girls' trips.

846
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: Like I just never went anywhere. I went to work

847
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: and I went home to bed.

848
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's all you could do. Yeah, that is so crazy.

849
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: So do you feel like now you're on the other

850
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: side of it, do you feel like?

851
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: I definitely feel I mean the minute that my Fareton

852
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: level started to go over one hundred, I was like zoop,

853
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Like it was wild to wake up in the morning

854
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: and not have to drag not just there's like fatigue,

855
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: and then there's there's tiredness, and then there's like mind

856
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: numbing fatigue where like I would need to pick up

857
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: my phone and walk to another room, and then I

858
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: would need to take a break, Like picking up my phone,

859
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: putting my slippers on, taking a shower was like exhausting.

860
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: I just like wouldn't wash my hair because I was like,

861
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to shower, Like it's just so wild.

862
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: So I definitely feel better. But you know, especially to

863
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: your listeners and your women listeners, like it is so

864
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: important that we fight for our wellness, and we are told,

865
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, since we're young girls. I got my period

866
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: wise twelve, I'm sure you were somewhere around there.

867
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: Like you you're just told that. It's like you've a period.

868
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: You're a woman. You're meant to suffer, You're.

869
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Meant to feel bad, and this is just the cost

870
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: of being a successful, busy woman. If you want to

871
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: have it all, well, what comes with having it all

872
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: feeling like garbage all the time?

873
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: And I just we got I don't know, do you

874
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: feel like you come, Oh my gosh, I feel like

875
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: I used to have like crippling period symptoms, like I

876
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: would have like this just crazy PMS and cramps and

877
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: like all the things, the debilitating tiredness. And I was like,

878
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: it's just your period. It's just like what we get

879
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: as women. It's just that time of the month. And

880
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: I started to realize, like, that's not like our periods

881
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: are not supposed to be that debilitating. That is my

882
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: body literally saying something's wrong. He yeah, like step in.

883
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: And that's when I started realizing all the Hashimoto stuff,

884
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: because I'm like, something is not right. Like I was, like,

885
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: I am so exhausted, it's kind of the same thing.

886
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: I would come in, I would do my job, but

887
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: I I never felt like I was doing my job well,

888
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: Like I felt like I was like not like there, yeah,

889
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: like my like I was here, present and I was

890
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: like giving it my all, but I just said was absent.

891
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: And I think that is like what's really crazy too,

892
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: because people also and like it's not I don't want

893
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: to say it's like I feel like doctors they give

894
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: you like they're like, Okay, you can take this pill

895
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: or you can do this, but then there's gonna be

896
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: side effects with that, and you know what I mean.

897
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: It's like all these things and I think that you

898
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: do you really have to like fight and take a

899
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: proactive approach and like ask many people, Like I'm the

900
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: type of person where I just trust, Like I'm like

901
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: if I go to a doctor, I trust that you

902
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about and I'm just going to

903
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: do the thing that you want me to do. Yeah,

904
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: And that this whole process made me like so different,

905
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: Like I get multiple opinions on things now, like it's

906
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: not just one opinion.

907
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's also like you have to be this person

908
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: like I would walk I had this yellow file folder

909
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: that had every blood and every test and every print

910
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: out from each doctor because you go in and they

911
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: get fifteen minutes. So like it's very hard to look

912
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: at someone and be able to understand the whole picture.

913
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: And I think what helped me is that I did

914
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: a lot of and helped you as well. Like I

915
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: did a lot of the work on my own, Like

916
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: I went to this this naturopath guy, and I started

917
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: doing IVS and I worked with a nutritionist, and I like,

918
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: I really did my part in my wellness. So I

919
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: when I got to the doctor and I still felt

920
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: bad when they would try to gaslight me with like, oh, well,

921
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: are you eating enough protein?

922
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: Like I would be like, I got it. My job.

923
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: It's like you it's your job. Your job is just

924
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: what's making you feel this way. And I'm like, I

925
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: have been doing morning radio since I was in college.

926
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: I was nineteen years old when I started doing morning radio.

927
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: I know what it feels like to not feel like

928
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: this right in the same schedule, you know. But it

929
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: was always just like the easy answer, Yeah, and you're tired,

930
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: you wake up early, like go to bed earlier. I'm like,

931
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: I can't possibly go to bed earlier, like I go

932
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: to bed at eight thirty, what do you you know?

933
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Like so yeah, so you get gas lit, and it's

934
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: it's such a weird thing because these are the experts.

935
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying all doctors are like that. It's

936
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: not their fault. It's the way the system is set up, right,

937
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: and they're all, especially in America more than anything, they're

938
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: all so discombobulated. I mean I had to literally, you know,

939
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: schnaggle to get my guy no on the phone with

940
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: the surgeon who's going to do my hysterectomy, and on

941
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: my phone with my natural pathway even know how to

942
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: do that. Those things don't connect. But I literally went

943
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: in and they also probably fight, well, I don't know

944
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: if they didn't. I didn't seem like they.

945
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: Fought for me. But like I was having issues with

946
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: my like natural path in my right like normal doctor,

947
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: going at it about like why are you doing all

948
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: these things? Like you just eat like a normal person,

949
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: you know, like it's fine, you can take this pill.

950
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: Everybody does it. It's fine, you know, Like it was

951
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: this back and forth ping pong.

952
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember the day my natural path got on

953
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: the phone with my GUYO and he sent me a

954
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: screenshot after of like that they had been on the

955
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: phone for seven minutes together and he sent me the

956
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: screenshot and he was like, you are going to be

957
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: well and likes he only talks and like, so if

958
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: he would look at your blood work and you'd be like,

959
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: you are so healthy and we have things we can

960
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: work on, but you were like, he only speaks positive.

961
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: It's so bizarro and wild anyway, but he was like,

962
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: you are going to be well, and it was like,

963
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: oh my god, they've talked for seven minutes just about me,

964
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Like that is revolutionary, you know.

965
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: So, But I also think, like I don't think every

966
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: natural path like really do your research because some of

967
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: them don't know what they're talking about. And I ended

968
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: up getting like Mark will remember this, I ended up

969
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: getting poisoned from arsenic from like pills that I was

970
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: taking from.

971
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: No.

972
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: That was a weird one. Yeah, Like my doctor called

973
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: me and she was like, is someone trying to poison you? Yeah?

974
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: She was just somebody trying to poison you? And I

975
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: was like what, Like, I was like, what do you mean?

976
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: She was you have so much in your It was

977
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: my urine that this is something you're ingesting daily, so

978
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: like does somebody have access to maybe your coffee or

979
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: like like they literally somebody poison me. That That's where

980
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: my mind went. At first, I was like what, like,

981
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: who's trying to poison me? Like I was just like

982
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: thinking of all the things. And then I was like,

983
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I'm taking these whack ass supplements from

984
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: this like Doctor Lady that I was getting on Amazon

985
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: and cut to it was the it was them. So

986
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: I just feel like, yeah, you really have to do

987
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: your research on these things. Oh my god, because everybody's

988
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: a professional and everybody's like that, you know, so it's like,

989
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: really do your research because it's not you know, it's

990
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: kind of.

991
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: It's it's really hard. And I also think like makes

992
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: me emotional think about it, like we give of other women.

993
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: We give women no grace like across the like I

994
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: think across the entire world, but definitely with health stuff.

995
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: It's like you're I you are only allowed like us

996
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: sick day. And then if you talk about like oh

997
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: I went to this nature path and then they gave

998
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: me this and oh my god, it was then you

999
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: just they're like Tanya's so crazy with her health stuff right,

1000
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: Like she's so wild, she's so intense about it, and

1001
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: you're like, no, like okay, good for you, you know

1002
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I'm definitely not so bananas about it,

1003
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: and like I have I'm I'm sure people are so

1004
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: sick of hearing me talk about it, but it's like,

1005
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like my job is to empower people

1006
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: to go on their like health journeys now, because oh

1007
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: my god, Like what a difference, you.

1008
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, and like what like how sad that you

1009
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: had to wait this many years to finally feel some

1010
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: sort of like I.

1011
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: Could have been, Like can you imagine what I could

1012
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: have accomplished running for president by now? If you've got

1013
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: you figured this out ten years ago? And oh my god,

1014
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: I know, but we'll see. I kind of thought my

1015
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: whole life was going to be over when I turned forty,

1016
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: and it's turning out to be better than ever.

1017
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: So I feel like maybe it all just starts at forty,

1018
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: you know, I know, But do you know what I

1019
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: want to talk about? Because I feel like you're one

1020
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: of those people that you kind of hit these milestones

1021
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: in your life in your career, but then you're like,

1022
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: now what because I feel like to me, like sitting

1023
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: back looking at you now.

1024
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Like you are the host of E News, like that

1025
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: is like I'm your new Ryan Seacrest.

1026
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: Correct, but that was your goal like when million years ago,

1027
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: million years ago, now you have that. Yeah, are you satisfied.

1028
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm satisfied. Oh isn't that crazy?

1029
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: I think something something with the health stuff and just

1030
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: getting this dream job and going through getting sort of

1031
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: let go from my dream job a few years ago

1032
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: and thinking like, oh my god, it's over. I took

1033
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: it all for granted. I should have like enjoyed myself more.

1034
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: And then I had a few years off where we

1035
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: were just doing Lady Gang. I worked on my music

1036
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: show super Fan, like I was kind of not in

1037
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: entertainment news. Coming back to entertainment News, I feel like

1038
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: I am where I'm supposed to be and I'm very safe,

1039
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: and I love the people that I'm working with. I

1040
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: love my EPs, I love Justin Sylvester, Like I'm so

1041
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: happy there that I can't imagine going to any other show.

1042
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: And there have been calls where people are like, oh,

1043
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: would she ever want to do you know, blah blah

1044
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: blah on this morning show or whatever, and I'm like, no,

1045
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: like I am perfect where I am.

1046
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: I love it.

1047
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: I absolutely love E News, I love the platform, I

1048
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: love the fashion. Like I'm just I'm so happy there.

1049
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: Wow. I honestly like I was expecting to shock now

1050
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: now I want this Yeah, And.

1051
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: Like I just, I really am so happy. I think

1052
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: the next thing is I at some point want to

1053
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: write a solo book, Like not now, but like ten

1054
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: years from now. I think I could do a solo

1055
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: book because I'm just such a book nerd. But I'm

1056
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: very happy where I am. I'm happy where the Lady

1057
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: Gang podcast is. I think doing the best shows of

1058
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: our career after ten years of having a podcast, like

1059
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: we're we're all still really great friends. We love each other.

1060
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm healthy, Like the whole reckoning of having this surgery

1061
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: and like not being able to get out of bed

1062
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: for three weeks and losing an organ and your like

1063
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: ability to pro create, like it's all very like metas. Sure,

1064
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: it's emotional, and it's like I did a lot of

1065
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: therapy around it, and so I just I'm actually feeling

1066
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: grateful and I feel very lucky, and I feel very

1067
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: happy with where I am. And I also know that

1068
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: if it all goes away tomorrow, like I'm okay to

1069
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: step back, like I have done it all, and I

1070
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: feel very happy to be where I am and still hustling,

1071
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: and I still want to make things happen.

1072
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: I want things to be amazing.

1073
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: But like I'm also a little bit in my friendship

1074
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: wifing era, which makes me excited, Like I'm taking a

1075
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: couple I'm taking a week off in a couple of

1076
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: weeks and I'm going to see my husband's on tour

1077
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: with one of his clients, and like I'm flying to

1078
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Lisbon to spend a week with him, where I would

1079
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: like never take And I had just had time off

1080
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: for my surgery, so I would have been so guilt ridden.

1081
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: I would have never taken time off. I'd have been like,

1082
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're going to bring someone young and

1083
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: sparkling and fabulous, and they're going to like her more

1084
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: than more like me, and then I'm going to get fired,

1085
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Like I would have been so full of fear. And

1086
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: now I'm like, no, you know what, I survived this surgery.

1087
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: I have not been a good wife for five years,

1088
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: Like we haven't had any fun. Let's go celebrate my

1089
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: health that I made it through.

1090
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: That is so craep. I'm so wild, right, it's wild,

1091
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 2: it's so webby. I don't know, because I literally expecting

1092
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: you to be like, well, now that I have this,

1093
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: I want to do the X, Y and Z because

1094
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: I feel like that is like I feel like that's

1095
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: the type of person that you always have been, Like

1096
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: you always have had big dreams, big goals, grind, grind, grind,

1097
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: go go go more and more and more.

1098
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: Listen, did I just send an email off pitching two

1099
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: TV shows that I had to pitch for last week

1100
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: that were kind of successful that I would love love

1101
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: to make sure, but like I'm not. The difference is

1102
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: is I'm not attached to the outcome where my life

1103
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: will only have meaning if I have this success if

1104
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: I never sell an other show.

1105
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: Okay, my sister told me this quote when I was

1106
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: going through like my heartbreaking breakup. She said, be open

1107
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: to the possibility, not attached to the outcome. And that

1108
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: has been like my heat, my my, Like I say

1109
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: it in my head all the time because it's like

1110
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: we're always so attached to the outcome. Yeah, and the

1111
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: outcome is like it can be, it can be different

1112
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: things and be just as beautiful every single way, but

1113
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: you get so attached to it looking a certain way

1114
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: that the minute it doesn't look like that, you're like disappointed.

1115
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had this with our and we talked about

1116
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: this when your book came out. We had I had

1117
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: this a lot with our Lady Gang podcast books. Our

1118
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: first book. We were sort of ahead of the curve.

1119
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: It was really we loved the book book and everything

1120
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: kind of went right, like, well, actually everything went wrong.

1121
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: It got it released in COVID, and it was the

1122
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: whole book tour was canceled, like everything did go wrong.

1123
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: But because of that, I feel like our community really

1124
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: wrapped themselves in it and they were like really rooting

1125
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: for us because like everything got canceled. We didn't get

1126
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: to do press, like it was like everything. And we

1127
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: ended up making the New York Times list and that

1128
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: was like a big dream of mine and I was

1129
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: so excited about it. And then and then based on

1130
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: that success, we got another book deal. We wrote the

1131
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: second book, which I think is better than the first book.

1132
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: I love it.

1133
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: I think it's really well done. I love the illustrations,

1134
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: like it's called Lady Secrets. I love that book so

1135
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: much and we had this entire plan, and we did

1136
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: this whole tour on a bus and it was like

1137
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: everything lined up, everything went the way it was supposed

1138
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: to do, and I was like yes, And then the

1139
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: day that we didn't, we ended up trying to be

1140
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: the best people on earth. So we bought all the

1141
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: books from indie booksellers around the country instead of like

1142
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: buying it from like the big one thing. And so

1143
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: every city we went to on the tour, we partnered

1144
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: with this like local bookstore. And then comes the Wednesday

1145
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: or Tuesday or whatever before you find out if you

1146
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: make the times, and my publisher's like, well, this is crazy,

1147
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: Like it says here that you've only sold four thousand books,

1148
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: and I was like, well that's impossible, because we sold

1149
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: sixty five hundred tickets and every book came with a ticket,

1150
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: like we bought our I have the invoice. We bought

1151
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: these books to give people, you know, plus the books

1152
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: that we sold online that the numbers are not numbering.

1153
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: And we started calling the booksellers and they're like, oh, yeah,

1154
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: well my husband fell and so I'm not going to

1155
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: be reporting my books till next week. And then this

1156
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: other bookstore was like, oh, yeah, I think we lost

1157
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: the paperwork, and like we don't really, and we're like,

1158
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: so we would. We would have had a better chance

1159
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: if our book. Anyway, it all fell apart. The books

1160
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: weren't reported correctly, and I'm on the street in Atlanta

1161
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: having a diet coke meltdown. Jack had to walk me

1162
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: to the gas station to get a diet coke because

1163
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: I was hyperventilating.

1164
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: I was so upset.

1165
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: I was so attached to the outcome. It only was

1166
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: a successful book if I made the New York Times.

1167
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: Not I put into years of work. Not we got

1168
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: to tour the country and see thousands of girls. Not

1169
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: it's my proudest piece of work. Not Jack designed to

1170
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: cover ourselves. Like I was so attached to out come

1171
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: that it was meaningless if it didn't get that. If

1172
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: it didn't get that thing. Meanwhile, Like I'll see it

1173
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: in a bookstore and someone will post about it and

1174
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's such a cute bookstore, and look

1175
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: at this person is Like you have to think about

1176
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 1: it being on people's nightstands and the read like there's

1177
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: just some of the shit that's made up for us

1178
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: to like subscribe.

1179
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: To is so dumb. Yeah, it doesn't matter, you know. No,

1180
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you mean, because I had the

1181
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: exact same reaction. I wasn't like higher ventilating with like

1182
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: a die Coke meltdown. But I remember we were in

1183
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: New York finishing up press and like finding out that

1184
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: we didn't get it, and like my heart broke a

1185
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: little bit, and I was like, but that and our

1186
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: book in particular was like the Sunshine Mind and it

1187
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: was all about positive, positive, and like here I was

1188
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 2: crying because our book didn't make the New York Times

1189
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: of a cellar. Mind you. We had just met like

1190
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: a mother and a daughter that had bought the book,

1191
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: and they were like, gonna do it like a devotional

1192
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: every day, like together and like bond together over the book.

1193
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's why we did it.

1194
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: Or I'm in airports and I see your book in

1195
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: the airport's right, I still see it.

1196
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: I still see it right, right, So they wouldn't They

1197
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: didn't want us, you know, So it's a sunshine on

1198
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: their bookshelf. Yeah, no, it's like and then and then

1199
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: I like really quickly bounced out of it. But I

1200
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: do I feel like I was and then I and

1201
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: then I kind of do the whole like I could

1202
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 2: have done this. I could have pushed a little harder.

1203
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: I could have done this. I could have like I

1204
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: go through the what it could have, should have and

1205
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: then I'm like, it is what it is, what it is.

1206
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: I learned it was an experience. Yeah, I'll try harder

1207
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: next time.

1208
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: Would do You know what's really crazy And let me

1209
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: just say this is that I did not try to

1210
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: host E news. That's what's crazy about And I think

1211
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: that's a big part of this journey of me being

1212
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: more relaxed.

1213
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 2: You didn't want to. I had.

1214
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: It's not that I didn't want to, but I had

1215
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: left entertainment tonight and kind of in a blaze of

1216
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: glory and had these years off and I was like,

1217
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm never going back to entertainment news. I did not

1218
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: have an agent. I did not have like I basically

1219
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: was like, I'm done with TV. I'm just going to

1220
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: be a podcaster and I'm gonna whatever read books with

1221
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: my dog.

1222
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: And I got a call.

1223
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: We were on our book tour for Lady Gang. I

1224
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: got a call from John Redman, who's my EP, and

1225
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: he was like, Hey, I really want you to come

1226
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: and talk to me about doing E News And I

1227
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm on my book tour. I'm not

1228
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: home for another month, but I'll call you then. Like

1229
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: I didn't even think cause it was just like it

1230
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: was such a casual email and I thought I thought

1231
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: it was like I thought it was just a zoom

1232
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: to just be like hey, like would you ever I

1233
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: don't know, I pushed it off.

1234
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: I don't even know why.

1235
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: I was so into the New York Times at the time,

1236
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: laser focus, right, So then I get on the zoom

1237
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: with them like a month later and they're like, yeah,

1238
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: well we're starting E news next month, and like we

1239
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: have only one person that we want to be the

1240
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: chief correspondent and it's you. I didn't there was no audition,

1241
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: there was no like, oh I heard they're hiring, can.

1242
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: You get me in agent? Like all this time. It

1243
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: was literally like they wanted me.

1244
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: They waited for four weeks, then they offered me the

1245
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: job on the spot on the zoom and then I

1246
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: like literally was like okay, well I don't have an agent,

1247
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: so I'll just send me the deal. Like it was

1248
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: so wild. And then and then when Adrian left she

1249
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: was hosting E News originally and I was chief correspondent

1250
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: when Adrian left. She left in like January of last year.

1251
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: She hasn't been there for a long time. And they

1252
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: they were testing people and they were bringing people in

1253
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: and I was just I did not talk. I didn't

1254
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: go to John or John and was like, hey, am

1255
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: I going to be the new host? Everyone's at People

1256
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: were asking me at some point, but like, I never

1257
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I never had an agent call over, Like I didn't

1258
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: do any of them. I didn't try. And literally one

1259
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: day I was at home with my brother and I

1260
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: was in Canada and I got it. They were like, hey,

1261
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: can you FaceTime real quick? And I was like sure,

1262
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: and I pick up the FaceTime. They're like, you're the

1263
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: new host of E News and I was like what,

1264
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Like I didn't even try, and so it's.

1265
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Like and then I got the job. Like that is

1266
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: so so crazy.

1267
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: My point being is that like I have been that

1268
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: person that has pushed so hard, has begged, has led

1269
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: with desperation my entire career, Like pick I am the

1270
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: pick me girl of this century, Like pick me, want me,

1271
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: love me? Here's my resume, here's the thing I'm desperate

1272
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: for your okayness. I'm desperate for outer recognition. And something

1273
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: happened in the last little while where I just stopped

1274
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: being that person and more good stuff has come my

1275
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: way than And you know, you were doing it when

1276
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't pushing so hard, which is wild. So I

1277
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: think that's maybe why I'm more relaxed, because I'm just like, well,

1278
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: you know what, what will find me will find me

1279
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: and my mantra to the universe, which I know you'll love.

1280
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 2: Is this or something better?

1281
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: So when I hear something like I was supposed to

1282
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: be on the new season of Hacks, I got on

1283
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: put on hold to play myself for Hacks like a

1284
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: reporter on the red carpet.

1285
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: I was so excited.

1286
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, I'm gonna be on Hacks because

1287
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: I love Hacks. And then I never got called when

1288
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: the shoot date came and went. And then Mark malcoln,

1289
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: our friend who works at Variety, and Rachel Lindsay, who

1290
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: was at Extra at the time. I saw them that

1291
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: they got it. Everyone's like oh, And I was like,

1292
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's amazing. But like normal me would

1293
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: have like made it like an entire presentation and sent

1294
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: to the casting people have been like, this is my

1295
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: love of hacks, this is my audition, this is like,

1296
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, what's meant for me is me and like

1297
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: this or something greater, Like I didn't get this thing

1298
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: that I kind of wanted and I thought would be cool,

1299
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: but I know something else will happened, you know. Justin

1300
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: and I got put on hold for like some movie

1301
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: where we're like playing ourselves on E news, and then

1302
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: they ended up only taking Justin and I was like, okay,

1303
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: this or something better, Like it would be so cool

1304
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: to be in a movie as myself, but like, all right,

1305
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: like it'll be something else. I know this. I'm so chill,

1306
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm so casual, so this brings me too.

1307
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm not leaving here.

1308
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: I know our times probably up, but like, I'm not

1309
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: leaving here without talking about Miami Swim Week because I'm

1310
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: a big Miami Swim Week fan. You are launched the

1311
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: career of Chrissy Degan. I'm sorry what I watch it

1312
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: every year? You do? I love a swimsuit. I have

1313
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: yet to find one that looks fantastic on me, and

1314
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think because I like kind

1315
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: of love pageants that my algorithm is always showing me

1316
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: Miami swim weeks. Some of the Bachelor girls do the

1317
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: modeling and stuff. So when I saw on your Instagram

1318
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: that you were auditioning, I voted on the swimsuit you

1319
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: wore the yellow, I think, right.

1320
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: I ended up I sent two actually right, I ended

1321
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: up sending one in the white and one in the

1322
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: black and white. Okay, not the black and white is good? Yeah,

1323
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: with the flowers. Yeah, with the flowers. Oh yeah, it's

1324
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: very Taylor Swift, you said, right, Yeah, it felt like

1325
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: tortured port yea, yeah, tortured poets apartment. And then the

1326
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 2: other one felt like bridal.

1327
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1328
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: And it was giving me like the energy that I

1329
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: think I needed. Yeah.

1330
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: And so when will you hear?

1331
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's one of those things where

1332
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: they they came to me and they were like, hey,

1333
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of like female empowerment, yeah, events

1334
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: that go on during the swim week, and they're like,

1335
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: you invited to some of these parties and there's also

1336
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: interest in you walking in some for the some of

1337
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: the brands, and I was like, no, like I'm not

1338
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: a swimsuit model or like I just have to I

1339
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: was like I kind of just shut it down and

1340
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: then finish. We're finishing our call. And I was like,

1341
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: you know what, like what is more modern woman energy

1342
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: than doing something that's like so outside of my comfort

1343
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: zone and like never I would never do. So I

1344
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'm going to do it.

1345
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: All I needed to send in was a thirty second

1346
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: audition thing like I was like, I can do this.

1347
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: Did you put a shoe on?

1348
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: Yes? If the shoes on?

1349
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: What shoe put it?

1350
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 2: I put on a clear like clear heels. Oh yeah,

1351
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: really elongated. And what's really funny is so my fiance

1352
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: was like I want to help you, like I'll shoot

1353
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: it whatever you need because it was like a quick

1354
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: it was like kind of a twenty four hour turnaround,

1355
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: and so I was like, I'm gonna do all the

1356
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: things that I need to get my hair done and

1357
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: I get spray tam like and I was like you

1358
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: know what, No, I'm just gonna be me and I'm

1359
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: just gonna like do it. He ended up getting like

1360
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: on a bunch of clothes like I have all these calls.

1361
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: He was like, I can cut it short if you

1362
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: really need me, And I was like, you know what

1363
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: I actually I found like you know, like every garage

1364
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: door has like that little handle that you like lifted

1365
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: up with even though it's electric. They had that one

1366
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: that you can do it manually. I end up putting

1367
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: the my phone like right on it. I don't know

1368
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: what the angle, but the angle make me look like

1369
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: I was a seven foot two who needs a tripod.

1370
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: It was like so makeshift and I like literally gave

1371
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: it like everything in me and I sent it and

1372
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: I was like if they want, if they want me, amazing,

1373
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: how fun? And if they don't, no sweat, no sweat,

1374
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: literally no sweat.

1375
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: But what a Like I was like, this is a

1376
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: wild right turn, Like this is a wild this is

1377
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: a wild turn for this girl.

1378
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: It was a wild turn. Love it? Yeah, I think

1379
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: it could be amazing. I think so too. And it

1380
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: was really funny because I watched some old like swim

1381
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: Weeks Swim Weeks to kind of like what is it.

1382
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't just walk like a you know,

1383
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: like I give it. And it was so funny because

1384
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: you know they do this thing where like they raise

1385
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: their hands up and they kind of do this like

1386
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: they like give it me, give it to me. I

1387
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: was doing that, Yeah, you were. They were like not

1388
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: the like, uh, asking for fan engagement when there's like

1389
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: no fans. You're like in the garage and plants around me.

1390
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, give it to me, and I'm like

1391
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: singing Serena Carpenter's Espresso and just like totally having the

1392
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: time of my life. And it's Tedios bikini with the

1393
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: color milk on my legs, Like literally I could not

1394
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: be more pale.

1395
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: But they know they can sassafrass you you know what

1396
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean?

1397
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was like. You know, it's like

1398
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: when you.

1399
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: Think about the supermodels and they're always like, here's my

1400
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: digies and it's just them in a tank top with

1401
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: no makeup on and like maybe some acne, and you're like, oh,

1402
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: because they know they can turn that into a Victoria's Secret.

1403
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: Supermodel girl, right, you know what I mean? Yeah?

1404
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: Did you know they're bringing back the show? No, Victory's

1405
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: Secret Show?

1406
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: No?

1407
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: I thought it was like done done, No, they're bringing

1408
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: it back branding. I guess I don't know what that means.

1409
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you're walking in it, maybe it was a secret

1410
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: audition maybe yeah, and energy right there.

1411
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was really it was such a weird

1412
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: twenty four hours because I was like, really shot it

1413
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: down so fast, and then I was kind of like

1414
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: excited about it. Yeah, because it's like so out of

1415
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: my comfort zone. Even the thought of being on a

1416
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: Miami swimming runway in a bikini, yeah makes me want

1417
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: to vomit.

1418
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1419
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: Great. Definitely need a beta blocker for that.

1420
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's when you need to beata well not

1421
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: a drama mean.

1422
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: Not a drama, mean a beta blocker.

1423
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: I think it would be very inspiring and very inspiring

1424
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: to all your girls and all your people that follow you.

1425
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you're hot.

1426
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: I remember the first time, you know, the first time

1427
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I met her, I was so jealous.

1428
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: I met you.

1429
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: I actually just watched you walk by me. I was

1430
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: it was an iHeart event, probably a decade ago. Well,

1431
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: you wore a green suit and you had a green

1432
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: smoky eye.

1433
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah. I remember a jingle ball.

1434
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: It was a jingle ball and I was there interviewing

1435
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: ed Chern. Yeah, and I remember you walked in the

1436
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: hallway and my first thought, I was a different era

1437
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: of my life. My first thought was like, who the

1438
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: is that girl? And then it was like, who does

1439
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: she think she is? Because you were like so confident

1440
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: and so like the prettiest person I'd ever seen. And

1441
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: then instantly it went into that thing where I was like,

1442
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not good enough. Oh my god,

1443
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: my outfit's not good and like it was. It was

1444
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: like one of those moments where I was like, I

1445
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: was very It wasn't jealousy, but I was like, I'm

1446
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: not enough. What am I doing here? Like hause I

1447
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: think I worked on The Insider at the time. Yeah,

1448
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: And then I remember I just remembered you being so beautiful.

1449
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know who you were, and then years later

1450
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: I met you and you were so lovely and so

1451
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: inspiring and had so much soul that that was one

1452
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: of my big Hollywood lessons and not judging a book

1453
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: by its cover because you were so beautiful. It was

1454
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: very intimidating for me.

1455
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: That is so crazy. I've never had anybody tell me that.

1456
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: I like, I mean, sounds so weird, like that I'm

1457
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: beautiful really, I mean obviously like my fiance and like

1458
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: my parents, but like that's kind.

1459
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: Of You were like so stunning and I was like,

1460
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: and you were so well put together. Like it was like,

1461
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, because jingle balls, you're like rosters, you know

1462
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1463
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: Like the whole it was like a tang.

1464
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1465
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: It's very funny because I remember the first time I

1466
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: ever was a guest on The Lady Gang, Beca was like,

1467
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: you're Becca Beca. Tobin was like, yeah, it's really weird.

1468
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: Kilty doesn't really like you know, other girls, but she

1469
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: really likes you. And I was like, yeah, I really

1470
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: liked you, and I like you, I said another girls

1471
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: at the time, I think you were, like I not

1472
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 2: like other people. You were you were not so well.

1473
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't that I didn't like other girls. It was

1474
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: that I was being tormented at my job where they

1475
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: would bring in every week, Yes or else to test

1476
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: in front of me, and they'd have me sit on

1477
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: stage in a chair and be like, oh, we just

1478
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: have a couple of screen tests to do before your part,

1479
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: and so they would walk like other young keelties in

1480
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: front of me and have them screen test, and then

1481
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: they would leave, and then I would go on and do.

1482
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: The show like obviously very traumatized.

1483
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: It was so traumatizing. So I was at a point

1484
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: where I was just like, oh my god, I got

1485
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: hold on with both hands. Yeah, yeah, I mean that

1486
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: was really bad. It was really ugly.

1487
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: So I think that was just nice in the right headspace.

1488
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: But also, why would you be if that's kind of

1489
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: what you're it was? It was definitely weird. It was

1490
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: like a like a I don't know why they did that.

1491
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: That was me and guys seeing wherever you were. That

1492
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: was terrible. The thing is that is the norm, though,

1493
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: Like that is very normal in this industry, and I

1494
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: feel like but but not to that degree. Like I

1495
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: think subconsciously everybody feels that way, you know, I mean

1496
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: like you're replaceable, you're this that you're small, you can

1497
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: be replaced any second, but you're a dime a dozen. Yeah,

1498
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: I think everybody's kind of brainwashed to feel that. But

1499
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: like to have people brought in an audition in front

1500
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: of you and do that, it's like a whole other level.

1501
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: So I feel like I probably would have been the

1502
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: same way.

1503
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: You know. What's cool though, and this is I might

1504
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: sound like an asshole, so please let me know if

1505
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: I do scrubbers. But I think what's beautiful about aging

1506
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: and where I'm at in my life now is that

1507
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: I actually know in my heart of hearts that you

1508
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: can't replace me, Like I felt that way for so long,

1509
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: that like, oh there's another girl and she's going to

1510
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: get the thing, and she's gonna I know now my

1511
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: worth and I know that I am incredible at what

1512
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: I do. And when you hire kelthy Frickin'knight to host

1513
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: your event, your thing, your charity, your television show, your

1514
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: red carpet, that I have the expertise to do it

1515
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: in a way that not many people can do. And

1516
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know that you're getting an expert and

1517
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: that is a beautiful thing because you have to live

1518
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: it to get to that point where you really believe

1519
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: in yourself and you I can drink my own kool

1520
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: aid because I know that my kool aid is sweet,

1521
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: you know. But then you're also at a point.

1522
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: Where what age do you think that was? Like when

1523
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: did you start to It was like forties, it was

1524
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: like that's recent. Yeah, I've been like I don't in

1525
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: the past few years.

1526
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: Like I think even since I started at E Like

1527
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: I just watched I watched the way publicists react to

1528
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: me that I have such long relationships. It's the same

1529
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: thing when you have someone walk in like a dua

1530
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: lipa that you've known their entire career. You have the

1531
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: blessing of not being the new girl in the block.

1532
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: They know what they're going to get when you sit

1533
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: down and interview them. Like, it's such a beautiful, wonderful thing.

1534
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm not friends with these people, but I know that

1535
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: when they need to, when I need to deliver, I'm

1536
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: going to deliver big, you know what I mean. I

1537
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: know that I'm going to have one of the best

1538
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: interviews on the carpet. I know that I can kill

1539
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: that live moment and give them something that they're not

1540
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: getting anywhere else.

1541
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: Like, I just know that.

1542
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: And so you stop having to be in competition with

1543
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: everyone because I truly am Like, if I don't get it,

1544
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with if I'm good enough, right,

1545
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: because I know in my heart I'm good enough.

1546
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know's It's a really beautiful thing. It's

1547
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: a huge shift because I feel like we always, especially

1548
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 2: as women, we internalize so much. It's always I think

1549
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: being good enough is like the biggest thing that we

1550
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: all deal with.

1551
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: Right, It's like, oh my god, oh my god. I mean,

1552
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: I feel that honestly, I don't feel that in my

1553
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: TV world. I feel that in podcasting sometimes, Like I

1554
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: still I watch like the new person come in with

1555
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: their new podcasts and it's like the everything everyone's talking

1556
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: about and whatever, and You're like, what about me.

1557
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm still making shows every Tuesday.

1558
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: For ten years, you know, And so there's times where

1559
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: like I still have to check myself when I, you know,

1560
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: see that. But then at the same time, what a

1561
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: beautiful thing to have a community of listeners that's been

1562
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: with you for over a decade. And I'm like, it's

1563
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: okay to not be the young, hot thing on the block.

1564
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: The only time I got really mad is when I

1565
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: saw them give like SmartLess like sixty million dollars at

1566
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: Netflix or whatever, and I was like, I have a

1567
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: trio of white people that would be incredible on the

1568
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: Netflix show, you know.

1569
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: But I was like, sixty million dollars. I could crazy.

1570
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: What would I do with that money? Howly, No, I'd

1571
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,919
Speaker 2: have ten weddings. Oh my god.

1572
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: You would definitely would get a PJ and you'd have

1573
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: everyone in Italy, Italy and then Amsterdam and then where.

1574
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a tour It'd be like a

1575
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: giant tour.

1576
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: I'd be like the Rihanna tour when she went to

1577
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: seven countries and like yeah.

1578
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 2: I would yeah, Wow, Well is there any okay? I

1579
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: feel like I don't even want to ask you this

1580
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: because you're like so good in your in the headspace

1581
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: that you're in. But like, where do you see kilty nine?

1582
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: In ten years, I'm gonna not be living in la

1583
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: on my home where I don't know. I think I

1584
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: did look at a condo and Cabo maybe in Florida.

1585
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: I want to live by the beach. I'd like, I

1586
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: want a big compound that my family, my brother can

1587
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: live like not near like not with me, but near me.

1588
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1589
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: And I think I'll be writing and I think i'll

1590
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: beca and I have this idea that I'll be a

1591
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: success coach. I just want to like uh because I

1592
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: can look at someone's life and I'm like, you need

1593
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: to do I had this a girl the other day

1594
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: write me and she's like, hey, I heard E news

1595
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: is looking for correspondence, Like can I send my reel?

1596
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: And I was or can you connect me? And I

1597
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, send me a reel. Let me take

1598
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: a look. And I looked at and I was like, well,

1599
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: you got to fix this. This is this like they're

1600
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna, they're not gonna like this part. And

1601
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: you interviewed Madonna and it's way at the end. You

1602
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: got to put that first, you know, Like I did

1603
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: it right. So Beck always makes fun of me. She's like,

1604
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: so I think I'll be a success coach, like I'll

1605
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: consult or, I'll help people with their careers and I'll

1606
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: just do Like but I think in ten years i'll

1607
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: be fifty two years old, so I'm out. I've been

1608
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: saving my money since I was like twenty, So I'm like,

1609
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to retire early and I'm just gonna do

1610
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: other things. I'm gonna do all the things I didn't

1611
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: do in my twenties and thirties because I was hustling

1612
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: so hard I had no balance. I'm going to balance.

1613
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: But the opposite way, I think, Wow, yeah, healthy night.

1614
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to Ryan Seacrest it, you know what

1615
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I keep going, doesn't Ryan Seacrest.

1616
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: Have enough money?

1617
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: Like he loves it still? Right?

1618
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1619
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, see I don't. I don't know if I'll love

1620
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: it that much. Like I think I'm gonna want time off. Yeah, Like,

1621
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be nice to be like, oh, like all

1622
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: my friends, Like some of my friends are like, oh,

1623
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: we're going to Abiza for two weeks.

1624
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: In the summer, you should come.

1625
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, I can't get to a visa

1626
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: for a Friday Saturday and then be back on Sunday

1627
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: night in order to do my bullet journaling and my

1628
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: yogut and my face mask and plung my.

1629
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: Browse for Moriday morning. You know, that's the era I

1630
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: have been in. And yeah, it's not time, so no,

1631
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: be like I'm gonna see you in Abiza. I'm gonna

1632
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: see you in a bitha on the end of that,

1633
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,879
Speaker 2: fly on over to Majorca later exactly.

1634
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm so obsessed with my husband, Like

1635
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you to get married because it

1636
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: really is like the best thing on the planet. And

1637
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: we've been married over ten years and like, I just

1638
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: he's still like my favorite person and I'm just so

1639
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: excited to spend time with him and Chris Night. Yeah,

1640
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: he's a special guy, so special guy. I'm I'm just

1641
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: excited about that too. So maybe I'll walk in Miami swimwake.

1642
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know I can put in a good word.

1643
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: I'll look at I'll give you some notes.

1644
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: Well the fingers crossed, I haven't heard this right at

1645
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,959
Speaker 2: the top, yeah, yeah, at the time, the audience engagement

1646
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: is key. Yeah.

1647
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1648
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: And a prop I learned, like a prop? What prop?

1649
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: Did you? I had a cowboy hat with one of them.

1650
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh that's cute. I threw it on at the end. No, yeah,

1651
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: I gave it a little wink. Well, you can you

1652
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: post these audition videos? And I think I'm gonna have to.

1653
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have to. We talked about it. Yeah.

1654
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: It was just so funny. It was like very funny.

1655
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: It was a very and I feel like I needed

1656
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: this right now, just like in my life. Like I

1657
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: felt like I was very what's the word spirally, not

1658
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: spirally but groundhog day, oh complacent. Yeah, Like I was

1659
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: just kind of like doing the thing and like, Okay,

1660
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 2: here's the sun. Then that goes down and you do

1661
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: the same thing, and like this really shook me.

1662
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh, I love it. Yeah, can't

1663
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: tell you one last thing. Did you watch the idea

1664
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: of You yet?

1665
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: Yes?

1666
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: I wish August Moon was a real band, uh are

1667
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: they not? No, it's an actor and it's all dancing

1668
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: close galaxy. Yeah, but he's really singing.

1669
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they're gonna start like working the

1670
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: song they are because it's like doing so well because

1671
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: I know the name of it. But the ones they

1672
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: sing at Martin guy solvn wrote all of it. Yeah,

1673
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: it's like Katy.

1674
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: Perry Solvent Solvent Solven Solvin so SolV Yeah, he love

1675
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: these songs. I wish it was a real band.

1676
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they're gonna sart like it's gonna

1677
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: like start being played.

1678
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: But they are not really singing it.

1679
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: The other guys right, No, I don't even know who

1680
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: the other guys are dancers right, all right? But Nicholas is,

1681
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: isn't he? That's what I heard. He's very cute. I

1682
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: really can't start thinking about that movie. Did you see

1683
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: that they were listening to his FM in the car

1684
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: and halfways listening? Yeah? Did you notice that?

1685
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: I did, But it wasn't your show, so I turned

1686
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: it and it went out of my brain right away

1687
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: because it was like a song.

1688
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, yeah, that's exciting. It was very exciting.

1689
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: And then they also showed ninety eight seven. I was like, wow,

1690
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: this person loves my heart. Oh anyway, Kelty Knight, thank

1691
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: you so much for scrubbing in. Is there anything that

1692
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: you want to keep us updated on with the Lady Gang.

1693
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: I would just love for you to subscribe and listen

1694
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: to Lady Gang. I lot. I think our scrubbers and

1695
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: the Lady Gang Scrubbing In collection is we could have

1696
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: a group Facebook at this point. Yeah, it's the same.

1697
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: Ladies.

1698
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: If you maybe you've been scrubbing lately you haven't ganged,

1699
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: come gang and we'll send some gangs to scrub you know.

1700
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And when is this announcement happening?

1701
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: This like, oh, we're announcing tomorrow.

1702
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: That we're doing I'll just do it.

1703
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: We're announcing a tour tomorrow. We're going to go on

1704
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: tour starting in August. Yeah, Jack, don't get mad at me.

1705
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, Beck and Jack, I love you, but I'm so

1706
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: excited for your tour. It's going to be intimate.

1707
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 1: It's it's it's called the you never forget your first

1708
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: tour And because we are a lot of people's first podcast.

1709
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: So and it's very intimate.

1710
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: We're just going to go back and see our ogs

1711
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be awesome. So how many cities right now?

1712
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: We have what we're announcing eight and we have more

1713
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: to come.

1714
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: That's so many. Yeah, oh my god, we're really excited.

1715
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: That is so great.

1716
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: Well, and I get to go to Boston where Justin Mills,

1717
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: my high school boyfriend, lives with his wife and his children,

1718
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: and I love them together and they're very special. I'm

1719
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: not in love with them anymore, but every time I

1720
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: go to Boston, I think about how Cuto was in

1721
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: high school and I had a cute boyfriend and I

1722
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: could say they came last time and I totally made

1723
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: fun of him and she was like into it and

1724
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: it was great.

1725
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 2: So it's a real highlight for me. I love you

1726
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: so much. I really appreciate you growing into Because Becca

1727
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: Tilly will be back never week. Thursday, we do have

1728
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: an ask Bonya episode. But I really just I love you.

1729
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: I've loved you from the minute that we met, and

1730
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: you were always I felt every step of my career

1731
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: like you were there cheering me on and being that

1732
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 2: like invisible cheerleader. When I didn't see you, like I

1733
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 2: always felt like you were saying nice things about me

1734
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 2: behind my back. Sure I am. And it was just

1735
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: it's a You're a breath of fresh air, and I

1736
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: love you and I always just want the best things

1737
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: for you. So and and also you were always there

1738
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: like when I need like meta cool advice, Like I

1739
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: just feel like you're kind of my go to gal.

1740
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: That could be your tagline for your new business, go

1741
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: to gal, go to gal, Yeah, helping you, helping you

1742
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: do your life. Yeah, let me do your life because

1743
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: I can't do mine.

1744
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. I love it.

1745
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: I've really had a great time. Thank you for having me.

1746
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: Thank you. Bye bye. Scrubbing out