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Now here's a highlight from Coast 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio and welcome back to 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, Georgian Ry with you. Brad Lemonsdorff is 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: our special guest for the next couple hours of Very 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: seasoned money Manager and Market Strategists is monthly Lymendorff's Market 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Timing Report newsletter reaches a hundred thousand investors who are 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: interested in his opinion about future market direction to help 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: them make decisions on how they can make more money. 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Brad also manages a couple investment vehicles what is called 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: the exchange traded is known as e T f s. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: He's going to tell us about that. They're like mutual funds, 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: but a little different. They allow large and small investors 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: to take advantage of his stock selections. Brad, welcome to 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: the program, looking forward to this. Thank you very much 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: for having me. And your book, of course is called 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: What's Behind the Numbers? And well my partner's book, but yes, 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: that's been a big book for McGraw hill. Soup. Everybody's 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: talking about the market and when it's going to correct, 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: and it keeps going up. What do you say, uh so, um, 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: when you're analyzing the market. Um, it's interesting because what 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about are the indexes. So the indexes continue 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: to hit fifty two week highs and they're publicizing that, 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: but if you look at the average stock in the marketplace, 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: the average stock really isn't participating as strongly as the 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: indexes would indicate. Is that a concern. Of course, it 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: is the amount of stops that are participating in a row. 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: For instance, what we've had from the blows in August, 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: so just recently, a push of five or ten up 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: should produce several hundred fifty two week highs during that push, 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: and we're really literally only having a few dozen a day, 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: which is pretty alarming to see such a you know, 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: a thin line up participating. What about the person brant 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: who is not in the stock market at all, listening 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: to the show right now with you and me and 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: saying I'm not in the market, What do I care? 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: What do we tell them? Well, I would say that 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: the stock market definitely creates a lot of push and 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: pull within our average daily lives. Um. I was actually 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: talking with someone recently. They were telling me a story 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: about the crash of eighty seven and how how home 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: they just got married there the home pricing market was, 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, way outside of what they could afford. The 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: crash of eighty seven shook up the country, knock some 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: prices down to where they could afford it, and they 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: were able to buy the home that they wanted. So 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: you never know, but it definitely moves, you know, your 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: life around when lots of moneys are moving in and 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: out of the economy. Right if there's any kind of 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: military involvement with North Korea, any kind, whether it's conventional 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: or nuke, what's going to happen to the economy here? Well, 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: I think everybody will freeze up and there's no question 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: that would be very, very surprising, horrific. Um. What I'm 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: here to tell people is that, Um, what I'm specializing 63 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: in is when people the people are standing on one 64 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: side of the room, it's time to walk over to 65 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: the other, or that another way. Your your parents always 66 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: told you to leave the party early. But who can 67 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: leave a party early? So when things start making no 68 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: sense like they did in oh seven, like they did 69 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: in two thousand during the Internet bubble, you can bet 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: that you know you're going to get some mean reversion 71 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: to what we've we've seen to the upside. The great 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: late poet Robert Frost once wrote a poem called the 73 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Road Not Taken, Uh, and he he took the one 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: less troubled by and claimed that they made all the difference. 75 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: That's a little bit with what you've just said. Uh, 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: it's really true, you know. Um. During the o A correction, Uh, 77 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: the average individual account in the United States was it 78 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: one of the highest cash levels that that that had 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: been seen in several decades. So when you think about 80 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: your exposure in your account, you're kind of like talking 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: your book, right. So if you're fully invested, you obviously 82 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: think stocks are gonna go much higher. So unfortunately, in 83 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: O eight it was so scary that people just started 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: raising cash and selling stocks when they shouldn't have. Now 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: they seem to be so bullish on stocks. This is 86 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: one of the lowest amount of cash that the average 87 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: cash on hand has had, so just from a contrarians 88 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: point of view, there isn't a lot of room, like 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people have already reacted to the good news, 90 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: so a little bit of bad news can go a 91 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: long way at this point, just because the glass is 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: so full. In our opinion, absolutely, I don't buy stocks 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: bread because I'm you know, in an industry where there 94 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: may be a time where you talk about a company 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: good or bad about whatever they do, and I never 96 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: want to be accused of, oh my god, look what 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: he just did. So I don't even buy stocks. I 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: don't even worry about that. But when the market crashed 99 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: back around seven and eight, I was looking at a 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: stock because I like to look at them, and this 101 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: thing went down to a dollar forty one to share 102 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: and it got up to eighty dollars share. Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, 103 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: it just shows you, I'll tell you. As a short seller, 104 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: it's really interesting. So sometimes being a good short seller 105 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: is losing the least amount of money sometimes, and there 106 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: were plenty of short funds competitors of our and such 107 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: that do similar type, you know, investing on the short side, 108 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: which is, you know what, we make money when companies depreciate. 109 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: George Charles jumped in big when President Trump got elected, right, 110 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, George Sorrels, I think jumped in big shorting 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: companies thinking that the market was going to go way 112 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: down when Trump went in. Uh and and he easily 113 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: could you know? He um? You know, he operates um 114 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: with a lot of sentiment and contrarian orientation as well, 115 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: so that wouldn't surprise me. I didn't actually see that, 116 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: but it's interesting that um. Uh So. Anyway, the average 117 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: person really misallocates his money pretty aggressively. During the O 118 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: eight and O nine period, we saw a lot of 119 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: people pulling back when they shouldn't have. They should have 120 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: been aggressively buying. And at this point in the cycle 121 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: we see a lot of people getting very heavily invested 122 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: when frankly, they should be taking chips off the table. 123 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Interesting tech now, in terms of timetable, what do you 124 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: think brand in what's your best assuming there's no military 125 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: conflict with North Korea. You know, these are unpredictable things 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: that change. But assuming everything is the status quo, what 127 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen and over what 128 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: time period? Um, well, we were extremely barished coming into 129 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen when we have that ten percent correction. 130 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, we never really know what type of correction 131 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: we're looking for, although it always is scary at the bottom. 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: That's that's that's one thing I think, Uh, experience trains 133 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: you to encounter. But look, I look out about nine 134 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: to eighteen months. That's traditionally what my my view is. 135 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't look out much farther than that. So my 136 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: opinions definitely can change. But at this point in time, 137 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, we see a lot of the corporate executives 138 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: that run the great companies of this country, and traditionally 139 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: they do come out and they sell their own stock 140 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: as part of a program just because they're giving a 141 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: lot of stock to run businesses in stock big company 142 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: stock options and such. But one of the problems right 143 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: now is is that you're you're at a seven year 144 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: high and inside are selling so while the markets are 145 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: hitting seven year highs and the media is making a 146 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: big deal out of it. Corporate executives are selling it 147 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: one of the highest cliff they ever have, and that's 148 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: also a very you know, it's a very bad negative 149 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: sign to see that. Listen to more Coast to Coast 150 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: a m every weeknight at one a m. Eastern and 151 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more