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Speaker 1: We have a really um poignant story today, Man, sad story.
Speaker 1: I don't know how this brother actually maintained his composure
Speaker 1: the way he did. Uh. We have Kevin Hawkins from
Speaker 1: Michigan City, Indiana here today and he has an incredible story.
Speaker 1: Pretty much daughter goes out one night. Right yeah, now
Speaker 1: we're you're a word of where she was going. And
Speaker 1: she told me she was going somewhere else. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she told me she was going to Papa house. But
Speaker 1: you know when you feel somebody lying, I just felt it,
Speaker 1: but she didn't. But she didn't really trip on the
Speaker 1: act on it. Right. No. I wanted to tell her stop,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like, go no. I told her, when
Speaker 1: you get to your Papa house, you called me as
Speaker 1: soon as you get over there, m and they called.
Speaker 1: Never came right now. She called the house, but she
Speaker 1: called her mom and said, mom, nay over here fighting.
Speaker 1: I was like at Papa house. She was like, I said,
Speaker 1: I knew y'all was lying. I said, you go over
Speaker 1: there and get her and bring her ass home. So
Speaker 1: my wife should go over there. Fifteen minutes later she
Speaker 1: called me. She was like, ke'sh your dead on the
Speaker 1: phone up called back keeps your dad. I on the
Speaker 1: phone up and just sat there and I got another
Speaker 1: phone call from one of my boys. He was like frost.
Speaker 1: I was like, come get me, said, I'm downstairs. And
Speaker 1: so you found out that your daughter had been shot
Speaker 1: because some guy pulls out of pistol and gets the
Speaker 1: shooting at the party house party. I'm not correct. This
Speaker 1: is like knows traffic light party or something. They were saying,
Speaker 1: just like pretty much a little gathering where you forgather
Speaker 1: that and gather that and congregating. Dude pulls out of gun,
Speaker 1: shoots into the crowd and kills his daughter. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: thirteen year old son was standing right next to her
Speaker 1: and thirteen year old man. And this is this is
Speaker 1: called a traffic black part. It was that they made
Speaker 1: up and if you got old read you with somebody
Speaker 1: yellow that you might them do something green. It's just
Speaker 1: you single with some stuff like that. Wow, just something
Speaker 1: they're doing it and you know that in the whole trade.
Speaker 1: Then this matter because Charles Gearing he received the sentence
Speaker 1: of fifty years for the two thousand and eleven This
Speaker 1: happened back in two thousand and eleven. How long did
Speaker 1: it take for it to come because the shooting actually happened.
Speaker 1: When did the shooting actually happened? It happened at night
Speaker 1: at night, But we four days four days before birthday
Speaker 1: July two thousand and eleven, four days before birthday birthday July.
Speaker 1: She got a casking for eighteen birthday, so and he
Speaker 1: didn't get sentenced to two thousand seventeen though, Yeah, birthday
Speaker 1: on your birthday, so it takes um. I'm not the
Speaker 1: best mathematician in the world, but I know that from
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven two thousand seventeen, that's entirely too
Speaker 1: long for justice to wait for justice to be served.
Speaker 1: When you're going, you're going too far. Because initially he
Speaker 1: got with thirty days doing a trial. When they first
Speaker 1: started getting up getting at him and stuff. They tried
Speaker 1: to give him thirty to forty days and uh, work
Speaker 1: release they was talking about. We were went to court
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, so we was downstairs with the d
Speaker 1: A and all that. They didn't want to do their job.
Speaker 1: So there's the only thing we can get him was
Speaker 1: thirty to forty days and work release. I told him
Speaker 1: I wasn't going for that ship had he had he
Speaker 1: been identified as they identified him all what was that
Speaker 1: thirty to forty five minutes after the shooting in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, they got it all on tape. A
Speaker 1: little kid thought he was fised to record a fight
Speaker 1: when they got the acting up, but he recorded the
Speaker 1: shooting and the police had it the whole time. They
Speaker 1: just ain't like me days. What kind of ship is that?
Speaker 1: How can you even attest to a mon fucking getting
Speaker 1: thirty to forty five because you don't want to do
Speaker 1: your job so you feel like just fuck it. And
Speaker 1: that's where we got right there for it exactly. And
Speaker 1: and the thing about it is this, you have proof,
Speaker 1: you have someone of this actually videotaped this man committing
Speaker 1: these acts of cronics on video, and you don't go
Speaker 1: do nothing. He should have been picked up immediately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should have been picked up immediately. And the whole
Speaker 1: thing is you brought the fight to him though you
Speaker 1: wouldn't go allow that to happen. No, Like one morning,
Speaker 1: I was sleeping in my phone and started chiming and chiming.
Speaker 1: By this time, excuse me, by this time the kids
Speaker 1: that came up in the age. So I'm steady getting
Speaker 1: chimes on Facebook from people that I didn't know. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the looking at the thing, and it's them talking
Speaker 1: about my daughter's murder. They're arguing about it, like five
Speaker 1: years later. So I get up and go to the
Speaker 1: police station and took it down there and showed them.
Speaker 1: They told me they can't do nothing for me. So
Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, you go to evidence and y'all
Speaker 1: have been knowing this. There's like we all we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do nothing for you. So I told him I'm
Speaker 1: asleep in this police station. So they kicked me out
Speaker 1: of there. So the next day I got up, I
Speaker 1: went back home. The next day, I waited to my
Speaker 1: wife to go to work, and then I would put
Speaker 1: the police station and asked again, is y'all gonna help me?
Speaker 1: They said no, I'm all right, I got something for you.
Speaker 1: So I drove back home, got a picture of my daughter,
Speaker 1: went to the store. I got to post the board
Speaker 1: and wrote justice for Keisha and hunk your horns. And
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to do Facebook live. I
Speaker 1: just looked on my Facebook hit live and it said
Speaker 1: three to one, and I know in the industry that
Speaker 1: means action. So that's what I did. I went live.
Speaker 1: And that's what you did. So how long did this
Speaker 1: fight go on with you and the police to apartment
Speaker 1: after that or before that? After that? You know, after that,
Speaker 1: from the time you're going up to the station, you're
Speaker 1: protesting everything. How long did that? How long had that gone? Oh?
Speaker 1: They are I think it was before Christmas then, because
Speaker 1: it was in I think it was in November when
Speaker 1: I went alive, and before Christmas they had one picked
Speaker 1: him up. But they came to my house and I
Speaker 1: told them, if you're doing this just to shut me up,
Speaker 1: or y'all playing games, it's really funna be all. Exactly
Speaker 1: what I want to know is, you know, all of
Speaker 1: us up here, fathers, fathers, we all got children. And
Speaker 1: that's the phone call that you never want to get,
Speaker 1: that you're a child, that you brought them to this
Speaker 1: world is no longer here because somebody has decided to
Speaker 1: take upon theirselves to end their life. How did you
Speaker 1: not just go get a pistol and blow everybody's brains
Speaker 1: out in that city? They had something to do with it.
Speaker 1: I tried to one night. I got upset, found them
Speaker 1: and I had got a backpack. I had three hundred
Speaker 1: rounds in there and I had a gun, and UM,
Speaker 1: take your time, man, take your time. I'm sorry, bro,
Speaker 1: take your time. As you know, as father's man, it's
Speaker 1: really like it's a situation to where, um, you know
Speaker 1: you want to be a dad, you want to be
Speaker 1: a parent to your kids, and you want to trust
Speaker 1: your kids that they will be safe when you let
Speaker 1: them go out, because, like I said, I got a
Speaker 1: sixteen ye olds plays football. He's out there. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to give him that that talk, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to where you gotta watch your surroundings and
Speaker 1: the people you be around, because even though you think
Speaker 1: motherfucker's might be cool and perfect, you never know in
Speaker 1: the situations, and you want to give your kids lenien
Speaker 1: see because you don't want to be that you know,
Speaker 1: tight grip ass motherfucking parents to where now you can't
Speaker 1: do this, you can't go nowhere, and then they will
Speaker 1: be held against you in the end. But you worry
Speaker 1: every motherfucking time they step out the motherfucking door because
Speaker 1: I'll ship, I worry when my son is getting the
Speaker 1: car with motherfucker's you know what accident could happen or
Speaker 1: you know, I tell them, watch you hanging around just
Speaker 1: because you're cool with motherfucker's don't mean they're cool with you. Uh,
Speaker 1: watch what you wear around motherfucker's because you don't know
Speaker 1: the surrounders. So again, you know, it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of a funked up because knowing what we did
Speaker 1: as kids. You want to try to change that pattern,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you want to try
Speaker 1: to hold onto your kids and be as tight. But
Speaker 1: you don't want your kids, like I said, to rebel
Speaker 1: against you and be all upset. Dad, don't let me
Speaker 1: do this, Dad, don't let me do that. But it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard because it's fucked up people out there
Speaker 1: in the world. I'm saying, you can't protect them from everything. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: they they're gonna they always trying to be sneaky. And
Speaker 1: that's that's another thing. And that's the thing. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what the thing with with with youth feels, man.
Speaker 1: Youth would give you a false s of your own mortality.
Speaker 1: They would give you a false sense because when you're young,
Speaker 1: you think no nothing Anglena happened to me, Mom's tripping,
Speaker 1: Pops tripping. They don't want to let me do nothing
Speaker 1: because I tell you, um, I'm so glad that my
Speaker 1: son is in college now, man, And I know when
Speaker 1: they keep them so busy because he plays football. He's
Speaker 1: so busy. He don't have no time to do nothing.
Speaker 1: Because I swear you wanna be you want to put
Speaker 1: your kids in a situation where you want to trust
Speaker 1: them after the game, they want to go somewhere, they
Speaker 1: want to go to in and out, they want to
Speaker 1: go to the pizza place, hang out. But we've been around,
Speaker 1: We've seen the monsters that are out there in the world,
Speaker 1: so we want to protect them from them. That's why
Speaker 1: we worked hard and moved them out. You do all
Speaker 1: the right things, Todad, but then you got some guy
Speaker 1: out there that pretty much I don't want to put
Speaker 1: his hands up to fight somebody so he can pull
Speaker 1: out a gun and just regorlessly aim into a crowd
Speaker 1: and take somebody's life. Man, It's it's just it's depends nightmare.
Speaker 1: Why can't you stop that? And you know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys out there in your situation, in my situation,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys out there that that put
Speaker 1: people in situations like this. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: where innocent kids is killed. We don't think about when
Speaker 1: you do that drive by, you don't know who or
Speaker 1: what you're gonna hit. We don't think about how many
Speaker 1: people are affected, affected by the loss of they loved one.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just like just like you
Speaker 1: what you're going through. I didn't realize it until two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, you know what I'm saying. And it's like, damn,
Speaker 1: just think you heard so many people in five minutes
Speaker 1: take somebody life in five minutes. And this is what
Speaker 1: these kids and these youngsters out here that they gotta see.
Speaker 1: They gotta feel his pain because I feel it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't think I would have
Speaker 1: been able to sit down if some knuckle head shaped
Speaker 1: my kid and then bragging and boasting on Facebook about it.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would have been able to do that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't win to the police station. So I commend
Speaker 1: this brother because he fought for justice for his daughter,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And now the dudes is
Speaker 1: doing fifty years, you know what I'm saying. Other than
Speaker 1: that they would have swept this under the rug. That's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to do if you're coming from that
Speaker 1: street lifestyle for you to try to, you know, take
Speaker 1: the route of being uh, you know, a straight up
Speaker 1: and letting a justice system take the course, because I
Speaker 1: don't know if I could have dealt with the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: just telling me uh and going through the years and years,
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker just somebody would have from what we
Speaker 1: come from, or that would have been a no brainer. Man.
Speaker 1: The police just told me, you know who did it.
Speaker 1: We know who did it. Fucking hand yourself. That's what
Speaker 1: the police told me. Man. So now you've got a situation. Um,
Speaker 1: and this is the dynamical this like when like with
Speaker 1: James said, there's so many people impacted when somebody lose
Speaker 1: their life because how many other children do you have?
Speaker 1: I have three other trips? Okay, so you have three
Speaker 1: other kids. So you go out in exact revenge for Keisha.
Speaker 1: Now you've got three other kids that's gonna be impacted to.
Speaker 1: They've already lost their sister. Now their father's gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he locked up in a penitential. Say, I got a
Speaker 1: strong wife because she don't want to stop. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta come home, like you gotta come home to
Speaker 1: meet Yeah, and what you what you what you need?
Speaker 1: Get a good woman gonna do that for you, especially
Speaker 1: if she she know the pain because it's her kid
Speaker 1: as her daughter too, but she know as the man,
Speaker 1: you know, the father with the other kids and the
Speaker 1: support and the stability they need, you can't afford to
Speaker 1: go down that growth, You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: then what's gonna happen to the family unit we destroyed
Speaker 1: as another black family unit? You feel what I'm saying
Speaker 1: right well, not only that, I mean you gotta give
Speaker 1: him the story about your pops and like it affected
Speaker 1: everybody after after a very like like when I see
Speaker 1: my daughter there, I didn't even cry that night at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just standing there staying at I just want revenge.
Speaker 1: So it was a hundred and fifty kids, man, that
Speaker 1: same my daughter get killed. Hundred and fifty. So instead
Speaker 1: of they're going down there to the police station because
Speaker 1: you know, they want to question everybody. Police brought me
Speaker 1: down there. They had a board with all their names,
Speaker 1: but the parents telling them, don't say nothing. Parents apparance,
Speaker 1: they don't say nothing at all. Don't say nothing. Just
Speaker 1: leave it alone. Don't say nothing. To see that that's
Speaker 1: a part of this bullshit culture that we got. Don't
Speaker 1: you don't say nothing. And I know it's gonna be
Speaker 1: some assholes and the audience right now, y'all not keep
Speaker 1: you funk all y'all, because I'm gonna tell you some
Speaker 1: of these motherfucker's need to be locked the funk up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, I mean in it's innocent is
Speaker 1: one thing. I mean, Like I said, when you're in
Speaker 1: that lifestyle, then you know, you take what it comes with.
Speaker 1: But when you're innocent that we make we make mistakes
Speaker 1: as kids. We all did you know, we're all naive
Speaker 1: to what happens in the streets. You give me, we
Speaker 1: see it and it's really glorified to an aspect. It's
Speaker 1: fun to be in the streets, but a lot of
Speaker 1: kids are naive to what really happens and ship, so um,
Speaker 1: that route you can't take. So you can't just sit
Speaker 1: there and try to take the street route with some
Speaker 1: ship that affected on an innocent you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's a young female, young woman who had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with that lifestyle. So for motherfucker's to not want
Speaker 1: to get involved, because like you said, we've been born
Speaker 1: to that culture in the streets of especially us as
Speaker 1: as niggas, we've been born in that culture of you
Speaker 1: don't tell on ship or you try to handle it yourself.
Speaker 1: But then that's not justice for the daughter and in
Speaker 1: the family, you know what I'm saying exactly, So what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We go take a quick break right now,
Speaker 1: and we go come back and go into the details
Speaker 1: about how this impacted your father. We'll be back in
Speaker 1: a minute. We're here with Calvin Hawkins. Y'all, well right
Speaker 1: back still, James eight, y'all need to better give me
Speaker 1: my fire, Donard. I put that on the ship. I
Speaker 1: need to go give me some water. Mirror my motherfucking
Speaker 1: feet fucking with me, gangster chronicles for my ass. Pay
Speaker 1: granny her money. This gangster granny. Y'all know me. When
Speaker 1: we're back with Calvin Hawkins. So, Calvin, this is impacted
Speaker 1: your father. Just the roughness is impact that you can
Speaker 1: you take taking your take us through them. After the funeral,
Speaker 1: like because I didn't even cry like they had, it
Speaker 1: was huge and funeral was big. It was like everything
Speaker 1: out the door. People was out the door. So the preacher,
Speaker 1: the pastor um, he asked for everybody to come up
Speaker 1: and say they piece. I was like, ain't nobody talking
Speaker 1: in here today but me? Yeah. I got up there
Speaker 1: and I talked and everything, and then like at one
Speaker 1: point is like I went blind and something like when
Speaker 1: I was talking to everybody, then when I stopped talking,
Speaker 1: like I seen everybody jump up clap their hands like,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I guess it was like an
Speaker 1: out of body experience or something like everybody was clapping
Speaker 1: them like a lot of old schools. There's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you just did that? Your strong as you,
Speaker 1: strong as ill, because I couldn't do that. If I
Speaker 1: see my baby laying in the casket, they're talking about
Speaker 1: this a celebration. I told him they ain't no celebration
Speaker 1: because she wasn't sick and she wasn't suffering. So what
Speaker 1: I need to celebrate? Folks? That was my only daughter. Like,
Speaker 1: and so your father, it's going The whole family is
Speaker 1: going through it, but your father in particular. Man, it
Speaker 1: killed my dad, Like that was a I never see
Speaker 1: my dad cry. And like one day he came to
Speaker 1: my shop. He's like, they didn't kill my baby. I
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with this no more. I'm I'm tired.
Speaker 1: It is like, man, what are you talking about? So
Speaker 1: he had pulled off. I'm trying to take him out
Speaker 1: the truck. He poured off. So the next week he
Speaker 1: come to the shop. I'll never forget this, bro. He
Speaker 1: comes to the shop. It was a Monday. He was
Speaker 1: going on and on about Keisha, and I'm like, hey, man, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hear what you're talking about. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be here. I just lost Keisha. I
Speaker 1: need you too. So he's like, everything you drove, everything
Speaker 1: I got for you, you drive on. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the hell, let's just dude talking about like so he's like,
Speaker 1: everything is in the back of the car for you.
Speaker 1: I say, I'm not trying to hear the ship period.
Speaker 1: I need you. So I go outside and my cousin
Speaker 1: stayed in the shop with him, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think you need to listen to your dad. When
Speaker 1: I came back in, I said, he'll be all right.
Speaker 1: He just upset. Tuesday come he come back to the shop.
Speaker 1: He normal, acting a food and Wednesday come he asked
Speaker 1: for my wife. He comes back to the shop. He's like,
Speaker 1: we're your wife. Fair, he said with Janet. I said
Speaker 1: she didn't hear Dad, she'll be back in a couple hours.
Speaker 1: She said okay. So he came back and he told
Speaker 1: her and told us when you have problems, he said,
Speaker 1: get you a big nip a drink, go to the
Speaker 1: beach and just let it all out and just relieve yourself.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, ain't nobody trying to hear that today? Pop?
Speaker 1: And he turned to Ryn and said, I love y'all. Thursday, come,
Speaker 1: my little brother seen him. I said, hey, bro, you've
Speaker 1: seen all Dad. He's like, yeah, he just passed. You
Speaker 1: said he's gonna come back Friday. Come my uncle and
Speaker 1: everybody looking for him. I'm I'm like, man, he probably
Speaker 1: at home sleep. So my uncle called me again, said,
Speaker 1: your dad ain't show up all right here all right,
Speaker 1: so I'm doing paperwork. Then I've seen one of his
Speaker 1: girlfriends come into the shop because he had about six
Speaker 1: out them. So she's like, your dad was supposed to
Speaker 1: meet me at ten thirty. I said, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Said for breakfast, but he didn't show up.
Speaker 1: And both of the cars outside, Like when my dad
Speaker 1: was home, one of the cars would be outside. I
Speaker 1: want to be in the garage and the screen door
Speaker 1: be locked. So I said, let me go over here.
Speaker 1: I went over there to the house. Both of the
Speaker 1: cars was outside. Now they opened up one of his
Speaker 1: trucks because I got the keys. I've seen a big
Speaker 1: thing of crown rolling there and I closed the door
Speaker 1: and saying fell down off his car. So he's been
Speaker 1: to the beach, so I said, went the hill going on.
Speaker 1: So I went to the screen door just to see
Speaker 1: if it's locked. But the screen door open. So I
Speaker 1: go next door and I was like, Ms. Bernard, when
Speaker 1: the last time you see them cards moved? She was
Speaker 1: like two days ago. And I looked at it, She's
Speaker 1: like kicking the door. I kicked the door in and
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, you better be breathing. And he
Speaker 1: was stiff as hell. Man. So in the spanding this time,
Speaker 1: you just you you still dealing with your daughter, grieving
Speaker 1: your daughter, and injustice. Now your father is going to
Speaker 1: y'all had a really good relationship. Oh he was cool
Speaker 1: as hell. Every day every day he came to the
Speaker 1: shopping he told me in my customers, my boys, that
Speaker 1: he didn't care who it was and and that that
Speaker 1: killed him and that killed him. So where is your
Speaker 1: mind that during this time I was screaming man like,
Speaker 1: like I didn't cry when I see my daughter. It's
Speaker 1: all right, man going let it out though, But that
Speaker 1: killed me. Man um it um. You want to say
Speaker 1: that family members, you don't have connection your grandparents really
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, They had that connection with your kids.
Speaker 1: You know, James, you know you got the grandson right now,
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying. You know how that
Speaker 1: connection is. That would be just like it's your own child.
Speaker 1: You feel me sometimes. And then with them being older,
Speaker 1: a little bit older, seeing a lot of stuff, having
Speaker 1: to go through a lot of stuff through their lifetime,
Speaker 1: a lot of ship they can't take, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. After after going through a gang of ship
Speaker 1: over your lifetime. I'm sure Pops was in this maybe fifties,
Speaker 1: sixties or whatever, and and probably being born back from
Speaker 1: them days. Man, he's just seen a gang of ship.
Speaker 1: You get tired and fed up with the same bullshit
Speaker 1: you see every year after year after year, especially when
Speaker 1: it's our young black you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: lose a family member and then it's just like it's
Speaker 1: it's like us with gang banging and ship. Ship don't stop.
Speaker 1: You see drive bys and killings and killings and drive bys,
Speaker 1: and at some point you'd be like, man, when is
Speaker 1: this ship gonna end? You feel me well, the pain
Speaker 1: that you see right here on this show, everybody should
Speaker 1: think about it before they the gun and then go
Speaker 1: shooting at somebody just because and hit a kid or
Speaker 1: or hit that person. This is the pain that you
Speaker 1: give to every family out there, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: cold piece. I never thought about it like this. I
Speaker 1: never saw it being on the other side of the fact,
Speaker 1: the side of offense. I never thought about that. At
Speaker 1: that time, I didn't give a funk who was in
Speaker 1: pain or who hurt. But this is the first time
Speaker 1: really that I like, I feel another another brother pain
Speaker 1: like that. You know, not only you lose your daughter,
Speaker 1: but then the pain that Pops couldn't take it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And Pops felt like just tired
Speaker 1: of this ship and then here he is. You know,
Speaker 1: he gave you all the signs. He gave you all
Speaker 1: the signs. I just ain't want to listen because you
Speaker 1: you wasn't ready to deal with the fact that he
Speaker 1: couldn't take that. But like, come on, man, we're trying
Speaker 1: to deal with this situation like like that. That's just
Speaker 1: a fathom wh I came see that, So please don't
Speaker 1: bring that you You're gonna block all that ship out.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, especially if you having
Speaker 1: to deal with the motherfucking pain of the daughter, like man,
Speaker 1: come on, you can't. That's why you still man, I
Speaker 1: want to hear that ship. Don't come around here talking
Speaker 1: now and and and there's two sides to it. Not
Speaker 1: only do you have the victims family that's impacted, right
Speaker 1: and you know, as bad as I want to say,
Speaker 1: funk that other kid, the shot that did the shooting,
Speaker 1: he got a mama, he got a daddy, he got
Speaker 1: other people. He was taking him to do robberies and
Speaker 1: ship bro and see if it's the way motherfucker's are
Speaker 1: raised and brought up, saying because sometimes you sometimes you
Speaker 1: know us as parents, we can't help you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I know what I did or what
Speaker 1: I didn't try to do, or what I taught my son.
Speaker 1: But if he decide to go out there and do
Speaker 1: some dumb ship, I'm not gonna be responsible as a
Speaker 1: father who tried to raise my son in the right way.
Speaker 1: But it's ship. If If I want my son to
Speaker 1: start claiming the hood, and I'm giving him a pack
Speaker 1: to sale and giving him his first strap, then I'm
Speaker 1: contributing to what my man is is filling you exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. His mama should be in
Speaker 1: jailed too, because she pretty much raised the monster. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that mama going to jail for
Speaker 1: the actions and with her son doing um, I think
Speaker 1: mama should feel like she's more responsible for his action.
Speaker 1: Disrespectful dads. Man, after she killed They didn't killed my daughter.
Speaker 1: They're coming up to the shop to try to get
Speaker 1: work done. Hell yeah, thinking it's a game. See him
Speaker 1: at the club. She trying to hug on me and
Speaker 1: ship like, think it's funny. Man, Man, I took the
Speaker 1: bricks off that motherfucker. She did bring that motherfucking here.
Speaker 1: She'd have been riding the brakes with a went on
Speaker 1: that mother. That's because the motherfucker trying to She trying
Speaker 1: to disassociate herself from the motherfucking from what the product
Speaker 1: of what her raising the kid has been like. He said,
Speaker 1: she's taking him on robberies, probably taking themselves. That's you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, She contributing to his motherfucking bullshit.
Speaker 1: That's what the That's why my man is so upset
Speaker 1: at them, because it's to be a difference if you
Speaker 1: was a sincere ass motherfucking female who I don't know
Speaker 1: where he went wrong. I tried to raise him right
Speaker 1: was in church. I tried to do this. But I'm
Speaker 1: taking them around the corner to do dirt. So don't
Speaker 1: be hugging on me, motherfucker when you contribute into your
Speaker 1: motherfucker's son's downfall. And and because you couldn't take a
Speaker 1: hold of that ship, I'm suffering. So now I don't
Speaker 1: need no hugs and ship, none of that ship and
Speaker 1: and and thing about death is that it's it's forever.
Speaker 1: It's not you know what I'm saying. That's an infinite thing.
Speaker 1: So it's not like you ever get over it. M
Speaker 1: it's not like you ever get over No. I gotta
Speaker 1: homie right now, who's dealing with the death of his daughter.
Speaker 1: Young girl out there in Vegas, you know, doing her thing,
Speaker 1: you know, young females. You know what I'm saying. She
Speaker 1: died from an overdose. Was was in the motherfucking room
Speaker 1: by herself for three days until somebody found her. So
Speaker 1: even though it's a different predicament, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's hurt fault to see your kids you know, taking
Speaker 1: away from you before you get to see them live
Speaker 1: their fucking life and do what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: You give me, it's just fucked up the child, to
Speaker 1: your child, your child post especially not at seventeen years old.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, California, That's what we do
Speaker 1: every day exactly bearing our kids. And that's why I
Speaker 1: thought this story would be be good for our show,
Speaker 1: because this is what we're trying to preach to the
Speaker 1: kids out there, the youngsters, the gangsters out there to day.
Speaker 1: And if they just heard a little of this man's
Speaker 1: story right here, maybe we wouldn't pick up that pistol.
Speaker 1: Because if I had heard a story like that back then,
Speaker 1: maybe I wouldn't. Maybe I kept doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: But we are the problem and a solution to the
Speaker 1: to this whole situation. Let's stop killing each other and
Speaker 1: we ain't got to worry about this ship no more.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But back then, when you
Speaker 1: grab that pistel and you get in that motherfucking car
Speaker 1: and you're going out to do a drive by, nine
Speaker 1: times out of chan, I never thought that I can
Speaker 1: kill a kid opposed to the people that you you're
Speaker 1: aiming at. You know what I'm saying. And the majority
Speaker 1: of the time is kids or somebody innocent that they
Speaker 1: ain't never doing ship that get hit because don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to they did that happens. And coming from here,
Speaker 1: like you said, coming from here in l A. You
Speaker 1: can be on either side of the fence. You can
Speaker 1: have a kid that get killed by motherfucker, or you
Speaker 1: can have to kill that pulled the trigger because that's
Speaker 1: the lifestyle we have. And with the kids follow the
Speaker 1: pathway now right now with a lot of the kids.
Speaker 1: So you gotta you gotta be able to go app
Speaker 1: hold to him and like you said, you don't want
Speaker 1: to restrict them and and have them like you said,
Speaker 1: I'm like prisoners in their own home. But funcking sometimes
Speaker 1: you got to him. You just gotta put that foot down.
Speaker 1: And then you want to you don't want to sing
Speaker 1: like the bad dad or you know, you can't go nowhere,
Speaker 1: You can't go to the game with your friends, you
Speaker 1: can't go to the little party or whatever. But I'll
Speaker 1: be I'll be a lie. I'll be a motherfucking lie
Speaker 1: if I tell you that every time my kid walked
Speaker 1: out the door, saying he's gonna go somewhere. I'm like,
Speaker 1: every fucking thirty minutes, like, nigger, where you at? Where
Speaker 1: are you at? T where? Now? His mom's got the
Speaker 1: tracker on his phone, Like, motherfucker, don't tell me, like
Speaker 1: I don't even know where you had every single minute
Speaker 1: of the day, because I can't save you from a
Speaker 1: lot of bullshit that you see, it takes for something
Speaker 1: to happen to a kid sometimes, and unfortunately, what these
Speaker 1: kids need to know you don't know. Always get to
Speaker 1: get a chance to learn a listen to come back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you an example. This is when I
Speaker 1: first got my son a carter. This is when he
Speaker 1: was going high school. Right, So you get a car
Speaker 1: and he tells me it's eleven o'clock on the Friday.
Speaker 1: You know how to goose game? Now? He says with Dad,
Speaker 1: I'm head over the stadium. I said, okay, cool, you
Speaker 1: kind of early, right, he said, But I want to
Speaker 1: get some film working in or whatever like that, So
Speaker 1: I'm kind of my mind. I called kind of like,
Speaker 1: I'm like whatever, go in and go next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: my oldest son come downstairs because he called his brother
Speaker 1: because he knew he'd called me. He called brother, said, man,
Speaker 1: Chris been in accent like fun. So I'm like, where
Speaker 1: is he had over on Bell Flower Boulevard or whatever?
Speaker 1: Is he on Imperial whatever? Because you know, right school
Speaker 1: right around corner, right around the corner. So he's in
Speaker 1: Los Alamo, some motherfucker. We're going to go pick up
Speaker 1: one of his other friends to bring him to the thing.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so, I'm telling myself, I just want
Speaker 1: to see if he okay. First. If he okay, ain't
Speaker 1: nobody did. I could deal with everything else right. I
Speaker 1: get over to the car tour whole side up. The
Speaker 1: tour wasn't his fault. Lady hit him, she takes on
Speaker 1: the phone or whatever to them. So I wanted the
Speaker 1: first thing I wanted to do is slap the ship
Speaker 1: out of But I didn't maintain my composure. And when
Speaker 1: he got in the car with me to quiet, I said,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a number of things that could have
Speaker 1: happened today. We could be coming to them, view your body,
Speaker 1: you could be going to Your friend could be dead,
Speaker 1: all because you didn't do what you were supposed to do,
Speaker 1: All because you didn't do the right thing. And I
Speaker 1: think by that happened to him and then I did
Speaker 1: something to him. He got a lot better after that,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as just doing what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. But we don't always get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: come back. So for youall young inns out there, it's
Speaker 1: listening when you know when moms and pops take you
Speaker 1: to stay at home something that's what you need to do,
Speaker 1: and then to the parents when is too strict strict enough?
Speaker 1: You get me, Like, we all want to be cool,
Speaker 1: like not say cool with the children, but we want
Speaker 1: to have that trust with the kids that we can
Speaker 1: trust that they're doing what they say. Now, like I said,
Speaker 1: we've all been down that path, you know, we do.
Speaker 1: I'm told moms, I'm gonna do something that I know,
Speaker 1: damn well, I ain't gonna do. I know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell her I'm gonna go over here, but knowing damn well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the neighborhood and sell some rocks.
Speaker 1: You feel me, I mean so, But I understood all that,
Speaker 1: Hell no, motherfucker, you can't go, and hell no, you
Speaker 1: ain't getting in the car with them. And I used
Speaker 1: to be pissed the funk off, like embarrassed to the
Speaker 1: point like you got the home, he's pulling up ready
Speaker 1: to pick me up, and you're coming all outside on
Speaker 1: the porch, yelling and screaming you ain't getting in the
Speaker 1: car with them motherfucker's and ship as you crazy get
Speaker 1: your motherfucking ass and the out though you've been lessons
Speaker 1: what you think moms every chance you get God damn Mike,
Speaker 1: you get me, because there's a lot of them niggas
Speaker 1: I see right now that's just getting home from doing
Speaker 1: twenty five years. You get me. It would have never
Speaker 1: been on the wrong because I wanted to be one
Speaker 1: of them wrong niggers though, even though the home was
Speaker 1: gool disciplined whatever. But it's get to the point when
Speaker 1: you hit that fifth sixteen seventeen to where you just
Speaker 1: feel like you can't do no fucking wrong and everything
Speaker 1: as a parent, I mean, you don't know ship man, Okay,
Speaker 1: So if I gotta go, yeah, I'm going over the
Speaker 1: pop pops knowing I'm gonna go to the neighborhood. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it like it's gonna be just another day
Speaker 1: that I've already then did this ship five or six
Speaker 1: times and I knew she was lying. Though I knew it.
Speaker 1: You always they know. Just like with my son, he
Speaker 1: telling me some ship, I'd look dead at his motherfucking
Speaker 1: ass and be like, yeah, alright, because they are alright.
Speaker 1: You can tell when he gets to do this fix.
Speaker 1: That's because I want to give him that little bit
Speaker 1: of trust, even though already know he's lying. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see if you're gonna be able to make
Speaker 1: it out of that motherfucking bullshit without something happening, because
Speaker 1: you already know you're telling me some bullshit. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you that because I could just break you
Speaker 1: down right now. You're gonna walk out with the homies,
Speaker 1: y'all all looking now, nigger, you can't go, but I
Speaker 1: finish see if you're gonna take that line, if you
Speaker 1: can make it back from that without no bullshit, because
Speaker 1: let's face it, you already got a fifty percent chance
Speaker 1: of getting in some ship, and you're telling me something
Speaker 1: that you ain't supposed to be doing. She never got
Speaker 1: and done. Mine was a one and done. It was
Speaker 1: crazy because I left Saturday to get my load to
Speaker 1: come out here. My son, the one that got um
Speaker 1: that was standing next tour. Birthday was Friday. He asked
Speaker 1: me to come pick him up for work because his
Speaker 1: little girlfriend had his car, So I uh put him
Speaker 1: in my truck and we're riding up taking him home.
Speaker 1: He was like, so, what's the problem. Man? It was
Speaker 1: like my birthday Friday and my sister girl uh man, man,
Speaker 1: you know, and we had to talk about it, and
Speaker 1: and that probably fused with him because he was there
Speaker 1: with her. It's still working with him because when I
Speaker 1: got to exactly, yeah, blood on him, I said, what
Speaker 1: is that? He's like this because they know they ain't
Speaker 1: supposed to be out there, And now he feels it's
Speaker 1: gonna funk with him because he's standing there with him
Speaker 1: with her and knowing that they've don't told Pops. Now
Speaker 1: he gotta face you because he knowing we've don't told
Speaker 1: you some ship that we ain't supposed to be over there.
Speaker 1: Now I got to feel responsible because my sister then
Speaker 1: got killed. I'm next to her. Now, how am I
Speaker 1: gonna explain that to Pops? When I know, God Damn
Speaker 1: Sell was supposed to be. That's a lot to put
Speaker 1: on the thirteen, A thirteen year old little boy seeing
Speaker 1: his sister in trying to help his sister now that
Speaker 1: he's covered in her blood, and man, he gotta be trauma.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't. He just moved out right there. I'm gone.
Speaker 1: He is. Wow. So it's a lot for those guys
Speaker 1: to deal with him process because he's probably going through
Speaker 1: a great deal of survivors remorse thinking why not me
Speaker 1: instead of my sister? You know, and you know going
Speaker 1: to that man, the mental anguish it this, I know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a thing that she could be dealing
Speaker 1: with as long as you walk on this planet. But
Speaker 1: how do you how do you maintain your sanity and
Speaker 1: normalcy through all of this mess? Men of the pain?
Speaker 1: I started this foundation for her foundation, her clothing line,
Speaker 1: my clothing line for um. I'm trying to get her
Speaker 1: clothing line. Once I learned how to work this five
Speaker 1: on one three seaboard ship, I'm gonna be hill because
Speaker 1: like we're from Indiana and Texas. But she wanted to
Speaker 1: she was supposed to be on the way out here
Speaker 1: to California, I don't know where, but go to college,
Speaker 1: be a relationship counselor, and live on the beach. That's
Speaker 1: what she wanted to do. So what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do is getting foundation. Of course, I was trying to
Speaker 1: move back home to Texas, but my mom was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta go back to Indiana because that's where it
Speaker 1: happened at. So I wanted foundation in Indiana, Texas and
Speaker 1: out here to get a hold of these little kids.
Speaker 1: You gotta catch you when they're young. So my son's
Speaker 1: grown right now and they're still saying yes sir and
Speaker 1: yes ma'am. To put that back out in the community
Speaker 1: and help these kids, you know, like they ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing for these kids to do. Like my barber, he
Speaker 1: he a baseball fanatty. I asked him before I came
Speaker 1: out here. Once I get this stuff going on, bro,
Speaker 1: hey can we I want you to run a baseball thing.
Speaker 1: He said, you're trying to start down to keep your name.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah. He said, give me the balls
Speaker 1: in the bats. Let's go. Give me the balls in
Speaker 1: the bat so let's go. Then I got another partner
Speaker 1: of mine. Um he had like a strength coach for
Speaker 1: the kids. He put helping kids get to d one
Speaker 1: playing football. So I actually I told him I want
Speaker 1: him to bring in. I got another friend. He boxed,
Speaker 1: bring that back you know what I'm saying up there,
Speaker 1: and they had that stuff transferred from Indiana here and
Speaker 1: then out there, and they're like owners um the team
Speaker 1: Monster Stuff. I changed my store to her name also,
Speaker 1: so it's Monster Car Audio where I do the sounds
Speaker 1: and stuff. And like every year we have an annual
Speaker 1: Kesha show and that car show sometimes last from three
Speaker 1: in the afternoon to like three in the morning. Man,
Speaker 1: well you know you got a friend come out there.
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you got a friend of us. Man.
Speaker 1: We want to be a participant in everything that you've
Speaker 1: got going on, anything that you needed to do, Bro,
Speaker 1: we want to be there. We want to be involved,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that after this. We'll get
Speaker 1: that together, you know. And this is an important episode
Speaker 1: right here, man, because our youth is everything. Man. Without
Speaker 1: the kids, we don't have no future, definitely. And if
Speaker 1: we keep losing our are young black not just our
Speaker 1: young black males, are young black females. You know, either
Speaker 1: the death or the penitentiary, We're not gonna have a future.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have a future. So it's very important
Speaker 1: to get it out there, man, so we can change
Speaker 1: the narrative of things. Um, I want to go back
Speaker 1: to the time that you were dealing with the police.
Speaker 1: I only want to call the police the clowns that
Speaker 1: was up there. You know, the people are pretty much
Speaker 1: made up in their mind and they wouldn't go exact justice. Man,
Speaker 1: how long was that process? How long did you have
Speaker 1: to do the march? And how long did you have
Speaker 1: to act? Did they ever threatened to restue anything, threaten
Speaker 1: to arrest me? Man? They broke me. They like they attitude?
Speaker 1: Was he young? He black? He got this shot where
Speaker 1: it's successful. So they're just trying to plant dope on me,
Speaker 1: playing doping stuff on man. Come on, like one of
Speaker 1: the police. Rest in peace, Rob Grant. They didn't know
Speaker 1: men him with the school together. So one day I
Speaker 1: had a hell of a day. Is the police study
Speaker 1: picking with me? Picking with me, picking with me? So
Speaker 1: he pulled up to the shop. I'm like, Rob, I
Speaker 1: ain't do nothing. He said, Frost act like me and
Speaker 1: you argue. I said, what are you talking about? He said,
Speaker 1: do what I tell you. So he started on one
Speaker 1: side of the car. I'm standing on the others. He
Speaker 1: pointing and I'm pointing at him. He said, listen, you've
Speaker 1: been seeing a black truck running around here. I said,
Speaker 1: yeah all day. He said, listen, that's the chief of
Speaker 1: police and the mayor. They've been a point dope on you.
Speaker 1: I said, what the hell you're talking about? He said,
Speaker 1: let me gonna break it down to you, Keisha Murder.
Speaker 1: What's aul Like? Forty five minutes after it happened, watch
Speaker 1: you bringing in is who you're bringing in the shop
Speaker 1: because they're feen a plant dope on you And they said, funk,
Speaker 1: your daughter there is not finna help you. And you
Speaker 1: see it already some white people. Yeah, see, you gotta understand.
Speaker 1: To me, being from the Midwest, Indiana is one of
Speaker 1: the most prejudiced states in the Union. Racist like I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, yeah, this is a kid. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: people that's racist. Like that's a different type of racism.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm gonna tell you, and I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be some people in the audience where I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be going for them. I'm gonna tell you. They got
Speaker 1: white boys down there. They would fight the funk out
Speaker 1: your way as they got guns, they got everything, and
Speaker 1: they would kick your ways going down one of them
Speaker 1: country as back rows and knock you off and kill
Speaker 1: your ass. You hanging from a treat. They had it
Speaker 1: so bad man where one day my AIN'TI comes she
Speaker 1: left church and pull it up to She's like, I
Speaker 1: need to talk to you. Philip that's my little brother,
Speaker 1: and Janice that's my wife. This is like, word is
Speaker 1: you have? You're pulling these cards in, acting like you
Speaker 1: hooking them up and keeping them in the bay for
Speaker 1: three or four hours, loading them up full of dope
Speaker 1: and drawing it off. I said, Mama, come on, are
Speaker 1: you serious. She's like, you're gonna go to prison. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what You're represented for them, bro, You represented
Speaker 1: the problem because you wouldn't just gonna sit back. Because
Speaker 1: for every brother like you to fight, you got ten
Speaker 1: other brothers that just sit back and accept the bullshit.
Speaker 1: They viewed you as a threat, so they wanted to
Speaker 1: get you out the way they were they're trying to
Speaker 1: get me out the way. So one day, my damn,
Speaker 1: my wife just stopped coming to the shop period. Like
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't know what's going on, baby,
Speaker 1: but I know you're not selling no drugs, no none
Speaker 1: of that stuff. But why if I'm working for it?
Speaker 1: Why I can't have nice things. Why I can't buy
Speaker 1: my family life things. So one day I've had a
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five four Galaxy and pulled it out the garage.
Speaker 1: Police pulled up on me. He said, look at you. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're Ryan clean and all that stuff. We want to
Speaker 1: ran clean too. That's why we're not gonna help you
Speaker 1: with your daughter. The police said that like some motherucking
Speaker 1: money or something. Man, I don't know. I've that one
Speaker 1: for the extort me. They ain't work for the ship
Speaker 1: I did, like the guy that was talking to you
Speaker 1: at first, or that told you to watch you letting
Speaker 1: your shot? Uh police rob brand Okay, So he basically
Speaker 1: telling you people that your friends ain't your friends and
Speaker 1: whoever in here is working with these motherfucker's just set
Speaker 1: you up. Put your game. Though. The person that I
Speaker 1: had sublease, he wanted the sublease from me. He had
Speaker 1: gotten to the fight with one of his girls, and
Speaker 1: so they got into a fight. So we go to
Speaker 1: court and I'm thinking he in there for the We're
Speaker 1: gonna buy them out because it's a fight, you know.
Speaker 1: So while we're in there, that judge was like, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm in here. Um. The judge told him it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a hundred thousand dollars buying. I said, for a
Speaker 1: fight like that, ain't number six, So fire to buying out.
Speaker 1: So he said, oh, he said, I'm in here for
Speaker 1: a fight. He said, no. On such and such a day,
Speaker 1: you sold a hundred and sixty eight grams of cocaine.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'm through. The whole time. He was
Speaker 1: good because I didn't even notice what he was doing, bro,
Speaker 1: And it went up, Wow, said such and such a
Speaker 1: day you sold a hundred and eighty six crams. I
Speaker 1: was like what. So they figured they can't shut you
Speaker 1: up about your daughter and you were causing too much,
Speaker 1: too much attention for them, so they figured they had
Speaker 1: to set you up to get you out to wait
Speaker 1: at the pension, and they was doing something and then like,
Speaker 1: I know this dude. He they say it's c I,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's c I. But then
Speaker 1: he comes to me. He's like a frost y'all to
Speaker 1: watch it, bro, because they got a picture, said they
Speaker 1: got a chart of you downstairs, and I said downstair
Speaker 1: in the police station. So I'm like, yeah, you're a
Speaker 1: c I for real. But whatever, you're talking about He said,
Speaker 1: you it's the head and they got it branched off, dude,
Speaker 1: and like a chart of y'all and he said they
Speaker 1: got pictures like a month ago, y'all don here down
Speaker 1: there at the police station. So I called my wife
Speaker 1: down and I said, hey, baby, could you please come
Speaker 1: down here and talk to me? And she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not coming to that shop. I said, please get
Speaker 1: up and come down here and just sit with me.
Speaker 1: So we're all outside and we're sitting outside, but I'm
Speaker 1: on leven Street, but on tenth Street. The whole time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm saying, a helicopter just hovering, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: So I go in the back of my shop and
Speaker 1: I get up on the way bench and look out
Speaker 1: the window, and they had like ten police back there
Speaker 1: coming in and get there. Then next thing I know,
Speaker 1: I've seen the helicopter just flying over the shop. It's
Speaker 1: flying so low. My wife came outside and looked up.
Speaker 1: She said, I don't know what the hell going on
Speaker 1: down here, But I said, this is crazy at all.
Speaker 1: And so the Grahama nothing nothing, you don't. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was I was seriously music and real. That was just
Speaker 1: some people. That was the attention you was bringing because
Speaker 1: the lack of the police doing their jobs because they
Speaker 1: wanted to just sweep it under the rug. It's just
Speaker 1: another black fucking killing of gang bullshit or just nigga
Speaker 1: on nigga killing. So because of the attention you was
Speaker 1: bringing it because your daughter was an innocent and she
Speaker 1: was a young child. That who was innocent, That who
Speaker 1: was you know, victim? You know some bullshit, and the
Speaker 1: people that was buying sounds. But like I told the police, dude,
Speaker 1: Walmart asked them where the money come from? When they
Speaker 1: come in there, it's been their money. I'm doing a
Speaker 1: service too. So because of the clientele, you can't of course,
Speaker 1: the local drug dealer gonna go to the homie shop
Speaker 1: to get this ship, the local banger or whatever. But
Speaker 1: that ship, just like on the ship of my ship,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me I'm working. I'm not gonna question
Speaker 1: the motherfucker about where his dollar came from. Trying to
Speaker 1: take care of my family. If a nigger got five
Speaker 1: hundred to pay for this speaker box and these two
Speaker 1: speakers in this radio, it's going in When you're dealing
Speaker 1: with crys and stuff like that, people don't know a
Speaker 1: lot of DC is getting some good money. Man, they're
Speaker 1: getting some good bread. So and a lot of them
Speaker 1: anna fuck you over from your bread like a motherfucker. Well,
Speaker 1: they have to be lying like a motherfucker for him
Speaker 1: to come into your shop and do all of this.
Speaker 1: I've never said I ain't sell nothing, but I think
Speaker 1: my little brother though, because one day we're up in
Speaker 1: there and um, they were to tell I had a
Speaker 1: whole lobby full of customers. Me and my wife was
Speaker 1: were sitting in the back. Fids walked in the doors
Speaker 1: and one just like this flash just badge and said
Speaker 1: go to the back and go to the back. Like,
Speaker 1: what did you talking about? To go to the back?
Speaker 1: We go to the back. He's like, well we need this.
Speaker 1: I said, whatever y'all looking for? I don't have. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. They try to play
Speaker 1: the good cop bad cop stuff. You know how didn't
Speaker 1: do that. So then the other one say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm sick of your ship, dude, fun this Uh, we
Speaker 1: know about your daughter getting killed. Then he got my attention.
Speaker 1: You know about your daughter getting killed, and we know
Speaker 1: about your other sons and your wife out there. We
Speaker 1: got a conspiracy charge on you, and we're gonna give
Speaker 1: you sixteen years. I supposed to be going to two
Speaker 1: thousand nine. I said, what am I conspiring so that
Speaker 1: they could give you sixteen years? But the motherfucker that
Speaker 1: killed your daughters out there gather va and around like
Speaker 1: he's like it ain't ship. Yeah, that's talk about giving
Speaker 1: him some bullshit. They walked in there thought they was
Speaker 1: Finn punking. Because if you, if the fans got something moment,
Speaker 1: they're taking your answer to jail, especially once they expose
Speaker 1: theirselves and they're gonna come get you. They ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say we got you on conspiracy, but we're gonna come
Speaker 1: get you later. That don't happen like that. So they
Speaker 1: was trying to him in trying to get something from him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Maybe he got scared, shut
Speaker 1: the shot down, did whatever the case might be, whatever
Speaker 1: somebody else wanted, just like what's the name We did
Speaker 1: the interview with how his marijuana spots. You couldn't go
Speaker 1: back too much competition, y'all get rid of Woot the wolf.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep lacing y'all with a little paper. That's
Speaker 1: how I work out here. And that's how they'd be
Speaker 1: doing the dumb ship. So with all this ship that
Speaker 1: that that he's doing and and rapping and riding about
Speaker 1: his daughter, they're trying to do that. The whole killed
Speaker 1: two birds once, don't think. Yeah, and I'm not no man.
Speaker 1: We gonna take another break, y'all against the Chronics. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back still, James eight, y'all need to better
Speaker 1: give me my fire, donard, I put that on a sht.
Speaker 1: I need to go get me some water. Mirror my
Speaker 1: motherfucking feet fucking with me, gangster Chronicles for my ass
Speaker 1: pay granted her money, This gangster granny. Y'all know me?
Speaker 1: Where are you at? And we're back. So you have
Speaker 1: this clothing line that you've started, and it's a it's
Speaker 1: a continuation of your daughter's a original vision. Am I correct? No?
Speaker 1: I just I just did it? Just okay, perfect. We
Speaker 1: have some of the clothing line here today and it's
Speaker 1: a team monster dot com. Monster were dot com. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we make sure we got the link in the description. Everybody.
Speaker 1: We got some hashta and he blessed us right there.
Speaker 1: You know, me and James got the hoodies on right now.
Speaker 1: So you guys, make sure y'all go and support my man.
Speaker 1: Uh And I wanted to you about something we've been
Speaker 1: lately talking about just our health is um our health.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of stuff going on to day.
Speaker 1: You know, you got this thing with the COVID man
Speaker 1: and where everybody is shutting doors and indoors. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have lost their jobs, man, and just you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard because it's almost like you know
Speaker 1: where you're stuck inside for the longest, and then you
Speaker 1: got situations like this, man, how did you deal with
Speaker 1: all the stress mentally? Man? Like, how do you deal
Speaker 1: with how do you maintain? And drove me crazy? My
Speaker 1: wife had to give me a psychiatrists for a little bit. Bet.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to listen to her because I felt
Speaker 1: she didn't lose a kid, so she can't tell me nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so you didn't think the therapy help. No, I
Speaker 1: was driving her crazy. I draw the psychiatrist show you crazy.
Speaker 1: She told my wife to divorce me. You need to
Speaker 1: divorce him because he didn't exact words was he didn't
Speaker 1: jumped off the boat and drowned. And I need you
Speaker 1: to stay in this boat with me. But you know,
Speaker 1: my wife, she she still about me. Like in it
Speaker 1: was an episode ninety three when you said they can't
Speaker 1: tell me nothing, Big Jay. I didn't feel she can
Speaker 1: tell me nothing, but my wife said maybe because I
Speaker 1: didn't want it to help. Yeah, therapy is only effective
Speaker 1: when you want to go the whole time. But I
Speaker 1: did go back to her like one side started fighting
Speaker 1: and stuff healthy as I am man like. I think
Speaker 1: it was a week later, I'm steady going crazy, going
Speaker 1: off from my white man left and went to the
Speaker 1: store and she come back home and I'm outside waiting
Speaker 1: on it with my arms down. She's like, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with you? I said, I think I'm having a heart attack.
Speaker 1: You like just looked at me. I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna argue with you. Just take me to the hospital. Ship.
Speaker 1: She took me to the hospital. Show enough I had
Speaker 1: a heart attack. The heart attack. We have to take
Speaker 1: care of ourselves out there because we've lost so many people.
Speaker 1: The heart attacks and stress will kill you know it
Speaker 1: almost did you know stress will take you off the planet.
Speaker 1: Frist will take you off the planet. And I know
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you had a friend of actually came
Speaker 1: in and told you to like to kind of pull
Speaker 1: together because you had gained a bunch of weight and
Speaker 1: everything like that. Yeah. His name scant like Yeah, came
Speaker 1: to the house. Yeah. It called me as like Frost.
Speaker 1: So I was like, what up, bro? He was like,
Speaker 1: I need a radio and stuff hooked up, some silence
Speaker 1: hooked up. I said, all right, coming on to the shop.
Speaker 1: So I come out the house and he looked at me,
Speaker 1: and he's like, because I had stayed in the house
Speaker 1: in my bedroom, like I was a prisoner in my
Speaker 1: own home. I stayed in the house for like two
Speaker 1: years in my bedroom, I wouldn't come out. The only
Speaker 1: thing I would do is just eat, take a shower,
Speaker 1: and go back to bed because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: deal with it no more. And he looked at me, said,
Speaker 1: I don't even want no word from you. You was
Speaker 1: out online, he said. And if ain't got nobody gonna
Speaker 1: tell you about yourself, I'm gonna tell you about your
Speaker 1: damn self. He said, Bro, you need to get your
Speaker 1: ship together. I know you, Miss Keisha, but you look terrible.
Speaker 1: I had a game. I went from one one ninety
Speaker 1: two to eighty almost three hundred problems up in there
Speaker 1: and then he see me like six months later and
Speaker 1: he's like, that's the frost so I'm talking about And
Speaker 1: then I was like, thanks, bro, I said, man, you
Speaker 1: hurt my feelings. Family said somebody needed to be a friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just to have that one friend come and chell
Speaker 1: you that what's his name? Scan? You're a good many
Speaker 1: shut up there. You're a real friend because a friend
Speaker 1: will tell you when you out of pocket. A real
Speaker 1: friends will tell you when you at the pocket. And
Speaker 1: so he helped pretty much gets you back up on
Speaker 1: your feet and everything gets you back and thing, it's
Speaker 1: pretty much. It sounds like you have lost your wheel
Speaker 1: to live. Yeah, I didn't care. I got up and
Speaker 1: took all the pictures off the wall of Keisha and
Speaker 1: my dad. I didn't want to see it. No more
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna help you. So I just gave up. Man,
Speaker 1: I've seen those texts on my phone. That's what made
Speaker 1: me snap off. Well man, you know, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to get you want to show every since James that
Speaker 1: showed me your story and everything. And I said, man,
Speaker 1: it's important that we get this brother on here because
Speaker 1: you you would be surprised man, on how many it's
Speaker 1: somebody out there right now that's going through the same
Speaker 1: thing that you went through that you are going through.
Speaker 1: What would you have to say to them right now?
Speaker 1: I just told him, well, I got the text from
Speaker 1: other people when I've seen that. I had got text
Speaker 1: from Dubai like Spain, and these people had text me
Speaker 1: from I think it was like New York or something
Speaker 1: that's like, we see what you're doing. Could you help us?
Speaker 1: I said, help y'all do what? There was like fight
Speaker 1: fer I think it was his sister or something that
Speaker 1: he was going through the same thing. I said, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: what y'all have to do is don't let the police
Speaker 1: scare y'all. I said, once you take one step forward
Speaker 1: towards them, if they try to push you back, one
Speaker 1: you go to most steps forward, don't tell and don't
Speaker 1: take the word no. I told him, I'm allergic to
Speaker 1: the word no. That's a lot of people don't possess
Speaker 1: that power to to piper what what they believe is right.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is just pretty much give up
Speaker 1: and really think that there's no help, you know, and
Speaker 1: people reaching out to you because they saw it in you.
Speaker 1: Everybody don't possess that and all the people, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's what your daughter wants you to do. You know,
Speaker 1: help other people. You know what I'm saying, do them,
Speaker 1: Help them just like you did me. You got justice
Speaker 1: for me, get justice for them, help them. Got them
Speaker 1: in the right way. And I think that's so positive
Speaker 1: that you're doing that. I truly believe we all got
Speaker 1: a purpose. That's why I started that foundation and the name. Also,
Speaker 1: besides the closing line, and the more I talk about
Speaker 1: this and get it out, I can finish her book
Speaker 1: because right now I'm stuck on the chapters of her
Speaker 1: birth day, the wake, in the funeral. But by me
Speaker 1: keep talking and keep talking, I can go and finish
Speaker 1: those chapters and everything else beside after that, I could
Speaker 1: write about the depression and the fighting everything. It just
Speaker 1: throws three chapters that I'm stuck on. Once I finished that,
Speaker 1: the book will be finished. So so this is something
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because you're a friend of mine. Now,
Speaker 1: are you still um? Because I know you gonna deal
Speaker 1: with this anguish. Like I said, this is for everything, man,
Speaker 1: It's not something that you would forget. Are you still
Speaker 1: making sure and everything that your mental and stuff is
Speaker 1: in pocket? Yeah? Yeah, I have slip ups though I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna even lie to you. But if my friend,
Speaker 1: like some of my friends that's on uh team Monston
Speaker 1: because I got a cardio club two up under her name.
Speaker 1: If they don't talk to me for like three or
Speaker 1: four days and they know I ain't on that, send
Speaker 1: my truck and they know I'm home, they gonna tell
Speaker 1: his phone up or they come into the house knocking
Speaker 1: on the door. Come on, get up, because we know
Speaker 1: what's going on because they don't been times. Man where
Speaker 1: if I don't hear from Shane, because I talked to
Speaker 1: this man every day. He's like you remember my family now,
Speaker 1: you know. If I don't talk to him, you know,
Speaker 1: the day one thing, but if it goes two days,
Speaker 1: I'm tearing is lying up, Like bro, what you're doing?
Speaker 1: You're good? I need to come out there because I
Speaker 1: know last time he has stuff going on, and me
Speaker 1: and one of the homies was on his way out there.
Speaker 1: We was on our way out to where he stilling.
Speaker 1: He had to see you know, if he was good.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, So so we do.
Speaker 1: We have to check on our friends and everything. And
Speaker 1: it's my message for the people out there. Don't just
Speaker 1: ignore your friend. If somebody is your friend and you
Speaker 1: love them, check on them, make sure they are right.
Speaker 1: Talk to him because I'm gonna tell you what. Our
Speaker 1: most powerful thing is on our as human beings. The
Speaker 1: most powerful too, in our body is our mouth, our
Speaker 1: ability to communicate. So we have to um communicate with
Speaker 1: our loved ones, man, and our friends when they're going
Speaker 1: through stuff. Man, because you don't know. You know, the
Speaker 1: suicide rate amongst black males is up right now. Are
Speaker 1: incarceration that rates have been stunned, you know, climbing steadily
Speaker 1: since then. You know, we have a lot of issues
Speaker 1: going on right now. Man. You know, life is hard, man,
Speaker 1: Life is hard. You shouldn't ever had to deal with it. Alan,
Speaker 1: she would have to do with a loan. Man. How
Speaker 1: how can people contact you? Bro? Are you gonna contact
Speaker 1: me on my Facebook page at Calval and Hawkins. You
Speaker 1: see me up there? Well, you see my daughter and
Speaker 1: then the banner of her foundation and we just got
Speaker 1: our foundation email up and it is let me double
Speaker 1: checking because my wife just did it. It's in in
Speaker 1: m H H F I N C at gmail dot
Speaker 1: com and their foundation we got a foundation page up.
Speaker 1: My wife just wanted me to look over it and
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna launch it on Facebook. And it's Nickesha
Speaker 1: Nicole Monster Hodges Hawkins Foundation, and it's the banner. And
Speaker 1: they had me and her up there, her face and
Speaker 1: then my wife and my daughter. This is all on
Speaker 1: the same banner. Yeah, man, please let us man, please
Speaker 1: to go out and support this brother. Hit him up.
Speaker 1: If you have any questions, don't hit them with the
Speaker 1: bullshit is We will come and let your ass, but
Speaker 1: appreciate you know. One thing I wanted to get out there, man,
Speaker 1: it's very important that our young people not to come
Speaker 1: up here sound like an old preaching asks man, because
Speaker 1: I'm far from it. It's very important that you kids
Speaker 1: listen to your parents when they tell ya something, because
Speaker 1: sometimes as parents were worried about everything, I'm always worried
Speaker 1: about my kids. Um, I know you always worried about yours, James,
Speaker 1: you know, but we can't be with your twin for
Speaker 1: seven So when we do tell y'all something, take notes
Speaker 1: to it, man, because you don't get a chance all
Speaker 1: the time to learn that that mistake, doesn't get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to decresh to a lesson for everybody. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this, and I think it's really important. And
Speaker 1: I can say this because I lived that life. I
Speaker 1: lived the life behind the gun, and I can hologly shave.
Speaker 1: I never thought about checking the kids life when I
Speaker 1: went out there and did my thing, And thank god
Speaker 1: I don't live that life no more. But the catch
Speaker 1: is out there with the pistols and doing aything. Think
Speaker 1: about who you might hit opposed to who you want
Speaker 1: to hit when you're shooting that pistol. And and this
Speaker 1: is the effect you get all the time, this man
Speaker 1: right here, you know what I'm saying. And nobody want
Speaker 1: to cause nobody that much pain and grief, man, And
Speaker 1: it's not worth it at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: So I say that every motherfucker that lived the life
Speaker 1: I live, sit down, put the pistol up, get out
Speaker 1: there and do it like we used to do it,
Speaker 1: and they can knuckle up and and be a man
Speaker 1: about it. That's that's that's what I say, And and
Speaker 1: I can honestly say, I apologize because you have stupid
Speaker 1: people out there, and I include myself with it, because
Speaker 1: we do things thinking that we're doing the right ship.
Speaker 1: When we game banking and and and we heard innocent
Speaker 1: people and it's a whole lot of cash out there.
Speaker 1: Like myself, I'm far from a hypocrite. I came down
Speaker 1: now cat to pick up a pistol and hit a
Speaker 1: block because that's the life I used to live. But
Speaker 1: I can't say it's enough, is enough, and for you
Speaker 1: and all the other people. I'm getting cheery out of
Speaker 1: saying this. You know, it's that ship is our fault.
Speaker 1: It ain't Mama faught, it ain't Daddy fought. It ain't
Speaker 1: because the kids didn't listen. This is the consequences of
Speaker 1: not listening. It's stupid. Motherfucker's that that thinks stupid. They
Speaker 1: can do it, man, Let's take care of each other. Man.
Speaker 1: This is a very emotional episode, and I'm jumping into
Speaker 1: something right now. Just all our fans out there, thank you.
Speaker 1: On We're coming up on a hundredth episode. We will
Speaker 1: have a celebration. This is for you, guys. We're not
Speaker 1: charged no money for it. We want you to come
Speaker 1: out and hang out with us. We will have Mac
Speaker 1: teen in the house, Glass Malone, young mother for some
Speaker 1: other surprisors. I don't want to say too many people's
Speaker 1: name because you know how to deal. Some people don't
Speaker 1: show up the stuff. But it's gonna be a big,
Speaker 1: big event. Um, that's gonna be Sunday, Marks twenty one
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Speaker 1: That's info at Digital soapbox Media dot com. We asked
Speaker 1: the mascot mandatory, so you can't come up here without
Speaker 1: no mask on, no ship like that. We're trying to
Speaker 1: keep each other safe, man, and this could we will
Speaker 1: have a good time. Man. Hopefully Calvin be back out
Speaker 1: out here. I get another load to come out here
Speaker 1: and kick on with y'all your family now the show man, Yes, yes, yes, indeed, man,
Speaker 1: and um, well, I'm gonna have mash Michelle. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get that thirty. I'm charging five dollars of mash. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if y'all don't want to pay James that five
Speaker 1: dollars a man, make a team that make sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bring bring your own ship, man. And you know what
Speaker 1: this is, Um, this is the most emotional episode where
Speaker 1: you've done. I don't see you know, James, she tears.
Speaker 1: Don't shared tears, man and eight don't share it tears
Speaker 1: up here on all our children are most valuable resource.
Speaker 1: So let's take care of um. To those guys out
Speaker 1: there with the gun, if you go, do what you do,
Speaker 1: be a closer personal with it, make it to where
Speaker 1: you can't hit nobody else. And you know, actually put
Speaker 1: that motherfucker down and go fight, Go fight. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because because a lot of times you know,
Speaker 1: and I see it man. You know, Um, the Goodie
Speaker 1: Mom had a saying with somebody asking what they name meant,
Speaker 1: and they said, the good die Young mostly over bullshit,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what it is. Last And we're gonna
Speaker 1: get up body and we holic y'all next week. Reggie.
Speaker 1: This update on Reggie. Reggie is up and talking and
Speaker 1: he's getting better. So everybody out there that's worried about
Speaker 1: Reg Reg is better. Um, we already know he's getting
Speaker 1: better because he's talking. Ship. So that's a good thing. Man. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing better. And that Kovid ship ain't
Speaker 1: no bullshit, some real ship, yeah it is. And um,
Speaker 1: prayers and everything like that work. Keep praying for the
Speaker 1: brother because you know he's still gotta. You know he's
Speaker 1: doing better. He up and talking right now, but keep
Speaker 1: him stealing your prayers and everything because he gotta. Um. So,
Speaker 1: he's getting better, he's getting better. Better, But we're out
Speaker 1: there for real this time. We halic you'all next week. Well,
Speaker 1: that concludes another episode of the gainst Chronicles podcast. Be
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