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Speaker 3: As we've talked about at nauseum, now since the start

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Speaker 3: of rookie Mini camp in the full training camp, Shador

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Speaker 3: Sanders has been the talk of the town in Cleveland

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Speaker 3: during all fats his camp because he has been, without

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Speaker 3: a doubt, been performing statistically as the best quarterback there

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Speaker 3: in camp, both in mini camp and here in training camp.

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Speaker 3: The only problem is something that Rob Parker has harped

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Speaker 3: on at nauseum, is that he still is the only

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Speaker 3: quarterback in rookie camp and here in training camp who

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Speaker 3: has not gotten a single rep with the first string

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Speaker 3: Browns offense. So late last week, Schador told reporters in Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't really don't want to have my

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Speaker 4: You know, he's doing some stuff right now.

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Speaker 3: He's got his own fish to fry over there in

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Speaker 3: Boulder today, he was pressed to get about it again, asked,

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Speaker 3: why is it specifically that you do not want to

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Speaker 3: see your dad here on the sidelines at Cleveland training camp.

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Speaker 4: Here's what you dory to say.

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Speaker 5: I don't want him coming to see me right now

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Speaker 5: because I want to get to where I want to

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Speaker 5: go in for him to see me, I don't want

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Speaker 5: him to come and see me. You know, get a

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Speaker 5: couple of reptions. You know, he's seering like a good dad, Like, nah,

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Speaker 5: you can't be proud of me right now. I got

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Speaker 5: to get to where I'm going, and I know it's

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Speaker 5: it's kind of like I just want everything that I'm

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Speaker 5: don't want to know distractions because.

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Speaker 4: We know out of media, we know how everybody.

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Speaker 5: Would take it and take away from the team just

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Speaker 5: it's a gift and a curse at the same time.

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Speaker 6: All Right, Kerry, Uh, I'm gonna say this, Shador Sanders

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Speaker 6: sounds like a cop, you know how, because basically he's saying,

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Speaker 6: nothing to see here, keep it moving. There's nothing to

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Speaker 6: see here. You heard the cops before. They've shoot you

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Speaker 6: away or shooed you away from a situation or a circumstance.

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Speaker 4: Keep it moving. Nothing to see here.

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Speaker 6: And he's absolutely right, there is nothing to see because

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Speaker 6: the Cleveland Browns have refused, for whatever reason, which I

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Speaker 6: think is obvious now, to give him first team reps.

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Speaker 4: Like Carrie, you played in the National Football League.

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Speaker 6: When they have decided that everybody else, how are you

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Speaker 6: in a football quarterback competition with four guys. The other

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Speaker 6: So the Browns can say whatever they want, but they've

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Speaker 6: said what I think is obvious. He has a great

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Speaker 6: It doesn't make any sense. It's practice carry you know this.

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Speaker 6: What is the harm on getting the guy a few

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Speaker 4: What is the harm?

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Speaker 6: And he better be lighting it up all these chadorf sanders, flackies, flunkys, fans.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you want to call him. Look at these numbers.

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Speaker 4: You have the better numbers your camp, or look how

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Speaker 4: goodye please? He better have the best numbers against the

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Speaker 6: And guys who are gonna be working at mobile gas

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Speaker 4: If you don't have the numbers against them, what them didn't?

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Speaker 4: You have no shot?

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Speaker 6: So you should be at least shining against the people

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Speaker 4: All I'm saying is Buffalo, I mean Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Cleveland can say there's a quarterback competition. I don't see

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Speaker 6: And I'm gonna give you two reasons why I still

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Speaker 6: I don't care about Dylan Gabriel was drafted in the

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Speaker 6: Oh no, oh no, no no, We'll just have to

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Speaker 6: Tom Brady's your mentor. He don't believe in you. Carrie,

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Speaker 6: you're the Raiders. Don't tell me about Geno Smith. Oh

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Speaker 6: my god, well they already have Gino Smith is fine

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Speaker 6: for now long term if Tom Brady, who was a

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Speaker 6: anybody's supposed to be like sympathetic and understand what could

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Speaker 6: you're his mentor, you've seen him, you know his desire,

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Speaker 4: Not hate. I'm just reading the tea leaves, That's all

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Speaker 4: I'm say. No, I mean, you're right.

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Speaker 7: The best player eventually is going to get those reps

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Speaker 7: and be the starter.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: That's how it works in Lead. That's how it works.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't matter where you are. I was a fourth

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Speaker 7: just how it is. And it was better than those

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Speaker 7: other guys. Weren't fun of you exactly. So it's like

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Speaker 7: the competition part of it I understand, and what you

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Speaker 7: just you made a great point of Yes, his numbers

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Speaker 7: and the stats should be better than the starters. They're

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Speaker 7: So even like I'm gonna bring it back to me,

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Speaker 7: into the first preseason game and you're playing against preseason guys.

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Speaker 7: You're not playing against the starters. I'm running around thinking,

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Speaker 7: this is this is easy. I'm meant to be here,

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Speaker 7: then we get the week one against Kansas City against

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Speaker 7: the against the real deal. Oh coach, So I am

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Speaker 7: I still starting next week. That's how I fight. And

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Speaker 7: so for Shador, for him, he just got to keep

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Speaker 7: has to do. Like you said, I mean, it's so

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Speaker 7: many quarterbacks. Obviously somebody's has to be the odd person out,

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Speaker 7: and you know they're not taking four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Come on, no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say right, it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 6: You can't eat up a roster spot for a guy

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the only thing I could see that

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Speaker 7: I'm sure he wouldn't want to be a part of.

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Speaker 7: So you know, if he's a practice squad guy, he's

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Speaker 6: He wouldn't be and you wouldn't be an NFL player

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Speaker 6: right until you play, until you play, am I right,

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Speaker 6: Like you're not in the league. There are guys who

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Speaker 6: are but on practice. Yeah, until you play in a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you can also see the disconnector, right,

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Speaker 7: Jimmy HASLM. The owner already said that that wasn't this guy.

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Speaker 7: So that was interesting, Yeah, because if the owner says that,

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Speaker 7: the time, the owner of the GM and the quarterback

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Speaker 7: is all connected. Right, If you're going to invest in

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Speaker 7: and that chain of command, that chain of operation is

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Speaker 6: Jimmy had no problem telling you when he got Shawn

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Speaker 6: his face, and that's my point. Yeah, But but here

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Speaker 7: One hundred percent, So he's already remove themselves from the equation, right.

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Speaker 7: And then the other part of it is the comments

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Speaker 7: I think he was covering that up. But this second comment,

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Speaker 7: the other layer of that. It's not about him not

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Speaker 6: If you're not going to make your door your quarterback

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Speaker 6: And there's reporters around his locker every day, you know, like,

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Speaker 6: that's not what you want.

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Speaker 7: And that's what you just And that's one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 7: If the quarterback, that's the guy, he's going to get attention,

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Speaker 7: that's inherent, right. But if the fourth string guys are

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Speaker 6: I agree, and that's why I think people got too

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Speaker 6: when oh, he got passed over by all these teams, No,

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Speaker 6: they weren't looking for quarterbacks, so it looks worse than

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Speaker 6: it really is. And then the ones who were they

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Speaker 6: didn't really want if he wasn't going to be You

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Speaker 6: saw the Giants move up.

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Speaker 4: You saw who else moved up to take a quarterback?

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Speaker 6: Somebody else thinks Saints and yeah, you know, like they

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Speaker 4: And I'm with you. People can make all the excuses,

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Speaker 4: and they are.

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Speaker 6: They're trying to they're trying to put him in his place, Like, no,

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Speaker 6: this is the NFL where GM's and coaches are trying

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Speaker 6: I just want nobody can can dispute my Matt Flynn

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Speaker 6: Over the weekend, Luka Doncic signed the one hundred and

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Speaker 6: what it wasn't the three fifty that was he would

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Speaker 6: that Robb Gi explained it to me the you know,

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm just saying that, you know, him signing this

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Speaker 6: signed another contract, but he's up for three fifty anyway,

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Speaker 6: Robb guh.

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Speaker 4: Luca had stuff to say.

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Speaker 3: He had a lot to say, you know, the big

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Speaker 4: He just he just took us. Well, he had money.

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Speaker 4: He had the Olympic money. Think you think do you

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Speaker 4: think is that? I mean it was, but they said

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Speaker 3: I'm saying allegedly, say allegedly, I gotta recovered exactly what

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Speaker 7: You see how quick that turnaround he had. He had cuts, yeah, try,

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Speaker 6: But said that people down there in Dallas said that

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, he played because you're and he plays his

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Speaker 7: way into shape during the season. But he's not afforded

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Speaker 4: Has to be.

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Speaker 6: I always said, he's a twenty five year old with

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Speaker 3: Thirty five, yeah, forty five, fifty okay, you know what

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Speaker 4: It all back. That's probably the food. They're so bad

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Speaker 3: The big story of course coming in with hey man,

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Speaker 3: ready to roll Lakers dark horse championship contender. So during

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Speaker 3: his media availability over the weekend, he was asked about

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Speaker 4: Nicholas look good to see.

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Speaker 8: Congratulations. You mentioned in kind of the post you put

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Speaker 8: out on social media championships being important to you. Here

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Speaker 8: you guys lost in the first round. You look like

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Speaker 8: a different person since then. What do you feel like

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Speaker 8: you're going to bring to that championship pursuit next year

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I think we have a great team. We

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Speaker 6: The only good thing is he's not like Lebron who's

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Speaker 6: making always make excuses and we don't have enough and

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Speaker 6: you know, like always putting out there so that when

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Speaker 4: I got something.

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Speaker 6: I have a coverard, you know what I mean, because

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Speaker 4: But I got to say this, what is he Slovenia?

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Speaker 4: Where's he from Slovenia?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I don't know the translation of his name

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Speaker 6: and Luka Doncic or nad and Doncic or the breakdown,

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Speaker 6: but I think it also must in English stand for delusional,

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Speaker 6: because the idea, the idea that he thinks that they're championship,

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Speaker 6: And I'm Lebron's older and I know they picked up

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Speaker 6: not at smart right. And the other thing is, look

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Speaker 6: And I still can't see them as a top four

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Speaker 6: Like people I remember last year Carry people were going

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Speaker 6: crazy over oh Luca Lebron, ain't nobody out west? Who

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Speaker 6: are you afraid of? I take those two over anybody?

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Speaker 4: Rob G. People will say that.

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Speaker 6: Oh am, I right, I take those two over the

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Speaker 6: who out West? Scares you? I scared? Okay? See, I

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Speaker 6: ain't scared of it?

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Speaker 6: I get they got knocked out the first round by

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Speaker 4: Not particularly close, thank you. It was not close.

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Speaker 6: And my point is having Luca and trying to build

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Speaker 7: And I know people are gonna say say that I'll

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Speaker 7: carry go ahead, all right, go ahead, go I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: I'm looking the way while you do this.

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Speaker 6: Cause Lebron while he puts up the numbers, rob G

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Speaker 6: has it. He's a Laker fan. The plus minus rob

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Speaker 6: G like he's it's easy to score in the NBA. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: he doesn't defend at all. And that's the issue. Like

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Speaker 6: Those aren't legit. Those aren't the same numbers he had

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Speaker 6: seven years ago when he was also playing on the

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Speaker 4: It's easy to score in this league. All the players

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Speaker 6: You can't really defend. But my only point is they

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Speaker 6: picked them to go to the Western Conference finals this year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah this past year, you know what I mean, once

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Speaker 6: Luca got there and for them to get knocked out

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Speaker 6: in the first round easily by Minnesota. Like you start

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Speaker 6: looking at the top four or five teams out West,

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Speaker 6: we didn't even mention Minnesota, it's been to the Western

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Speaker 4: We didn't mention the.

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Speaker 6: Clippers, Dallaus either or Dallas. There's like six teams, I know,

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Speaker 6: Rob g don't get mad. There's at least five or

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Speaker 6: six teams I would put ahead of the Lakers, even

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Speaker 7: I think it's fair to say I put three teams

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Speaker 7: ahead of the Lakers right now, right just off of

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Speaker 7: what I think. Houston, Oka, See and Minnesota just went there, right,

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Speaker 7: So I mean I would say them right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, like Denver, that that's I said those three.

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Speaker 4: I'm at the Denver.

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Speaker 7: So then it's Denver, Denver, Dallas and that that next

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Speaker 7: tier with the Lakers, I think. But you're talking about

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Speaker 7: Luka Dantic I'm a fan. I've seen him play in Dallas,

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Speaker 7: even when he was not in shape. Right, he took

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Speaker 7: a team full of guys that nobody would know to

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Speaker 7: the Western Conference finals. Now he has Lebron, he has Marcus,

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Speaker 7: smart guys who have finals you know finals, Uh, they've

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Speaker 7: been there before, they've been there, they've been there, right,

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Speaker 7: So he has a team and with an inspired Luca,

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Speaker 7: A dedicated Luca.

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Speaker 4: They definitely have a shot. Are you sure.

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Speaker 6: He's dedicated, always dedicated and got in shape to get

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Speaker 6: his contract Like like, no, I think he's dedicated. That's

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Speaker 6: when somebody so scares me because he was so You

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Speaker 6: don't get rid of a talent like that. It wasn't

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Speaker 6: a basketball trade. You know this, ca Okay, anybody watching

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Speaker 6: I've been covering the league since nineteen eighty seven, anybody

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Speaker 4: That's not a basketball trade. Luka, Doncic is.

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Speaker 6: A tremendous five team first All NBA in the first

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Speaker 4: That's unheard of. People don't do that.

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Speaker 6: We know we can play, but why when they get

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Speaker 6: other stuff there. And when they don't know, they won't

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Speaker 6: He won't listen to the training staff. They don't know

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Speaker 6: what he's doing. When they took that beer away from him,

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Speaker 6: that was a red. You just won the Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 6: You're going to the finals and I can't have a beer.

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Speaker 6: I'm of age. He wasn't like it wasn't going crazy

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Speaker 6: or right. You saw the one like he was touching

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Speaker 4: He was having a beer.

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Speaker 7: He's having a beer and they took the beer like

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Speaker 7: like there's something under the surface, right, But again, you're

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Speaker 7: got there, and then you had somebody.

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Speaker 4: Tell you I don't want you.

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Speaker 6: Of course he's motivated, and that's what they told him

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Speaker 6: that they we don't want They dumped Luca, no other

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Speaker 4: We don't want you. So of course, yes, these first

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Speaker 4: but a lot of people did buy into it.

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Speaker 7: They were doing. But these two years, I promise you're

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Speaker 7: going to see the best version of Luca. And if

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Speaker 7: I say they're delusional.

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Speaker 6: I really do, o West because there's so many younger

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Speaker 6: just can't get over, Like where they are, and even

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Speaker 4: You can look at that roster, right, the Uns.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean that's that's what it is, right,

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Speaker 6: they're the golden guys. I get all that, but you

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Speaker 6: know what, that was a hit show. Well it was

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Speaker 6: a hit show one year, right, that's all you're trying for.

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Speaker 4: You might not be.

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Speaker 6: Renewed, they might not be renewed by NBC, but that's okay.

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Speaker 4: You just want one year out of it. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just Lebron at his age, and I'm just being real,

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Speaker 6: Like even Lebron, who you know, signed to comeback with

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Speaker 4: Hopefully he's inspired. He's another one, of course.

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Speaker 6: I'm just like when you've been on when you've been

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Speaker 6: Like at some point, I'm just keeping it. Really, You're

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Speaker 6: really you're being really real, like because everybody, that's what

437
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Speaker 6: all fan bases do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he.

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Speaker 6: Was bad for the last two or three teams years

440
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Speaker 6: where but I'm telling you, like, now he's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a Laker once he puts that uniform on, Rob g

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Speaker 6: He's gonna have his inner Kobe Noss.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna be.

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Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden be like I'm inspired because Kobe Water's uniform.

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Speaker 4: Rob.

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Speaker 3: You know that Rob had muffin today because he's anything

448
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Speaker 3: but consistent, right Like, uh, you know when the Lakers

449
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Speaker 3: had the lebron A d Russ Carmelo thing, the Golden

450
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Speaker 3: Guys was a bad thing. But now that it's the Clippers,

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Speaker 3: well that was his show, you know what I mean,

452
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Speaker 3: they might have something this season. No, and then and

453
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Speaker 3: then DeAndre am you know he sucks, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Bruce Brown was the big answer for Toronto and that

455
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Speaker 3: was gonna do great with Denver. No, okay, everybody Lakers

456
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Speaker 3: except Lebron is the only only I went out in

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Speaker 3: their twenties.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just but I don't like where Lebron is

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Speaker 6: and the numbers. And my my issue is, you gotta

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Speaker 6: admit it, there were the same the same. It's not

461
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Speaker 6: the same numbers and people. That's why people were fooled

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Speaker 6: last year.

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Speaker 4: That's why. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Ain't nobody had them getting knocked out in the first

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Speaker 6: round by the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 4: They didn't, No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 7: I thought Minnesota would win, but nobody thought that they

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Speaker 7: were going to lose to those.

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Speaker 6: And that's what I'm saying. That's because of Lebron and Luca.

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Speaker 6: You got two star players, you think, okay, and then

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Speaker 6: all I just need is a couple of role players.

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Speaker 4: I got my two stars. This is you don't need three.

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Speaker 3: You just know Luca ate two bad Glizzies before they

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Speaker 3: get and then it ruined everything.

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Speaker 4: Hey listen, enough with the Glizzies.

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Speaker 6: Calvin walk In, who covers the Cowboys for the Dallas

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Speaker 6: Morning News.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Calvin? How are you?

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Speaker 9: What's going on? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Say hi to Carry Rhoads.

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Speaker 7: I just talk to Calvin. I don't want don't say hi, Calvin.

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Speaker 7: I talked to you yesterday.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to hear you.

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Speaker 6: What on your show? I was just wondering, all right,

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Speaker 6: we can double dip in here, that's all good. I

491
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Speaker 6: saw Jerry Jones. I know this is his m O.

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Speaker 6: What is Jerry gonna like ship one of these guys out?

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's gonna sign Michael Parsons, make a trade,

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Speaker 6: fill some holes.

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Speaker 4: I would just move on, Calvin.

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Speaker 6: I know it ain't gonna happen because Jerry always he

497
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Speaker 6: always gives in in the end and winds up bending.

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Speaker 4: But I this is typical Jerry, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah? This is typical Jerry. This is how he plays

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Speaker 9: the game. He gets in a war of words with

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Speaker 9: the star players, and then the player gets the money

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Speaker 9: that he wants and you keep it moving. That's that's

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Speaker 9: how he does it. It's the boxing promoters way of

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00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 9: doing things. Bob am Don King, That's how they did

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Speaker 9: it for a thousand years, and he heard, I think

506
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Speaker 9: is doing it now and Jerry Jones is doing it,

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Speaker 9: so and we all fall forward, right. So I think

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Speaker 9: we've got a little bit smart over here is we're

509
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Speaker 9: just call him out on it, but he doesn't care. Saturday,

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Speaker 9: Jerry is the only person that talked.

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Speaker 4: To the media.

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Speaker 9: No players know anybody else because I can Parsons ask

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Speaker 9: for trade. That's exactly what you.

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Speaker 7: Do, Calvin So. I mean, obviously there's so many questions

515
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Speaker 7: around Dallas. I mean, we've talked about it. That division

516
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Speaker 7: is stacked. I mean, the top two teams in that

517
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Speaker 7: division is are they going to be the Commanders and

518
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Speaker 7: the Eagles. It seems like Giants are getting better, but

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys. I mean obviously a lot of talk around

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Speaker 7: Micah and the offense that and those two receivers Pickings

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Speaker 7: and Ceedee Lamb. But what's what's going to be this

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Speaker 7: team's identity.

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Speaker 9: That's a good question. I think we're still trying to

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Speaker 9: figure that out, and even Brian Schottenheimer is trying to

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Speaker 9: figure it out. Because you know, they got to have

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Speaker 9: scrimmage on Tuesday against the Rams, and I asked him

527
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Speaker 9: to what are you looking for in this scrimmage? And

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Speaker 9: you know, he gave us the whole coach speak. You know,

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Speaker 9: we're gonna be fast and physical and all this kind

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Speaker 9: of jazz, right, And I really don't know what kind

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Speaker 9: of team we're going to have.

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Speaker 6: I do believe that's that's scary to me that you're

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Speaker 6: the beat writer and you're sitting here going not sure, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: why don't they don't know?

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Speaker 4: They don't know? Like what what? What is this going

536
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Speaker 4: to be?

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Speaker 9: I think they have an idea they want to be

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Speaker 9: a fast, physical team. But who doesn't why you know,

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm not you know, I'm not putting in

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Speaker 9: Hall of Fame because you said you want to be

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Speaker 9: a fast and physical team. That's right, So but what

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Speaker 9: kind of team do you have? And obviously Tyler Smith,

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Speaker 9: who was the starting left guard, run of the best

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Speaker 9: in the business, he said, I like I lost that

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Speaker 9: they grew a super Bowl roster. Bryan Shottenheimer agreed, and

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Speaker 9: Jerry Jones agreed. So they think they can go to

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Speaker 9: the super Bowl. And I'll say everybody thinks he can

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Speaker 9: go to super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Right, Yes, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: Come on, Calvin, really seriously, I just like, like through

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Speaker 6: those guys, I get it, like you hope, Hey, carry

552
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Speaker 6: knows he was with the Jets. For gods, every year

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Speaker 6: you're walking around, Oh yeah we got it down, Yeah

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Speaker 6: we're gonna go uh Brett Farb. They were eight and

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Speaker 6: three at one point, and they didn't even get they

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Speaker 6: even make the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Calvin, why are you calling my stats out?

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Speaker 2: What I'm going on?

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Speaker 6: Go back to Calvi? But yeah, but what are the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys doing? Okay? But you give my point. It's like

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys were seven and ten a year ago. They

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Speaker 6: had some bad defensively. My god, remember they were getting

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Speaker 6: beat by like a drum. They got holes all over

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Speaker 6: the place. I just I don't I don't know what's

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Speaker 6: going on here, and I don't know how the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: feel that they fit in and they go get a

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Speaker 6: no name coach. It wasn't on anybody's weight off. I

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Speaker 6: know the last name Schottenheimer, and we get that. But

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Speaker 6: my god, really, Brian sh what am I supposed to

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Speaker 6: expect from him?

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Speaker 9: Well? I think a couple of years ago, and Carrie

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Speaker 9: could attest to this Shotenheimer was a hot name in

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Speaker 9: the mar and the coaching scene.

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Speaker 4: And so he didn't get a job, right.

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, Well, well, yeah, that's true. He turned down

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Speaker 9: a couple opportunities because he thought it was going to

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Speaker 9: come back around to him again, and it never did.

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Speaker 9: And then he took a job at Georgia and when

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Speaker 9: his wife said how much did they paying you? He

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Speaker 9: didn't even know call him back and figure that out, right. So,

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Speaker 9: and I was really shocked when someone said, yeah, his

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Speaker 9: name is in the mix, and I.

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Speaker 7: Was like, really, you and everybody else?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, right, But they there's something about Shottenheimer. They like

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Speaker 9: he has a presence about him. He's a community you know,

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Speaker 9: he's a great relationship guy. Shea communication sky, you know,

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Speaker 9: he does all those things. Well, you know, he comes

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Speaker 9: from big stock. I mean his dad went over two

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Speaker 9: hundred games in this league and that's hard to do, right, So.

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Speaker 4: How many super Bowls?

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Speaker 9: Big ones? He lost? The big one was.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I just want to check, that's all. I'm just checking.

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Speaker 9: You know, you can't be won.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying you just said it won two

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Speaker 4: undred game but never won a Super Bowl. Just saying

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Speaker 4: that's a fact. That means that at some point. You

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Speaker 4: must have choked at some point, that's all.

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Speaker 9: You know, Hey, what do you do? But anyway, Shotty

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Speaker 9: is here. The Cowboys love him.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 9: You know we had a craft fish boil. You got

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Speaker 9: ping pong tables in a lot of great You know,

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Speaker 9: he had to beat out yesterday families. You know, shot

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Speaker 9: He's got tattoos, and players were talking about tattoos, talking

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Speaker 9: about yeah, stop.

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Speaker 4: Beating it to rob. You give me.

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Speaker 6: Do you know what I'm gonna be saying about the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys all year, about how shoddy they are and their

609
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Speaker 6: play is shoddy. Remember that Shody shot He's got a

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Speaker 6: crab bake, a lobster crab bake.

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Speaker 9: He's got his own drink to Shoty. I think it's

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Speaker 9: a vodka and soda something like that. Got his own

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Speaker 9: little drink. He's got a Shotty shake, its special handshakes.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's the way for the future.

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Speaker 4: It's beautiful, Okay. I just I don't see it. I don't.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 6: Jerry's been doing it wrong for a long time, and

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Speaker 6: I know everybody just says.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's Jerry.

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Speaker 6: This is It's unbelievable that the Cowboy, even the Lions

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Speaker 6: have been in the NFC Championship game and not even

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Speaker 6: the cowboy.

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Speaker 4: Just think about that over the last thirty years.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I remember the muller Man March that he started.

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Speaker 4: That's right, you exactly. I need to go down there

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Speaker 4: and start a Jerryman march or something. Man, stop it, man.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 9: There was a fan that was this is the first

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Speaker 9: time I've ever seen it. There was a fan at

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Speaker 9: track this Saturday. He had a sign that said sell

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Speaker 9: the team. Ooh, And I was like why why It

632
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Speaker 9: was one fan, So I was like wow, and another

633
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Speaker 9: and another fan had another sign hoping for Jerry's demise.

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Speaker 9: Oh god, exactly. Yeah. So this is the first time

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Speaker 9: where you're starting to see the fans get a little

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Speaker 9: They've been fighting on social media, right for those all fakes,

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Speaker 9: tough guys, right, come out to he comes to the ballpark,

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Speaker 9: he comes to the stadium, and that's when you that's

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Speaker 9: when you do your thing. And so now you're starting

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Speaker 9: to see a little bit more and more with the fans.

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Speaker 9: But here's the other thing, and Jerry's one hundred percent

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Speaker 9: right in this. The fans are gonna keep buying the tickets.

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Speaker 9: The fan is going to keep purchasing the merchandise. And

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Speaker 9: that's that.

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Speaker 4: That don't make it right.

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Speaker 6: It don't make it right that that mentality is terrible

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Speaker 6: by Jerry, and I get it. Fans are starved. They

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Speaker 6: only eight games a year. I get all that, but

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Speaker 6: that doesn't justify what he's done, which has destroyed his

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Speaker 6: organization as far as being a winning culture and a

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Speaker 6: winning team. That this team should have won a championship

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Speaker 6: many years ago with all the players will come by anyway,

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Speaker 6: Calvin Walkins, you're the best. We appreciate you for the

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Speaker 6: Dallas Morning News. We gotta run. Appreciate you my massage.

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Speaker 6: I got the Cowboys winning seven games again and shoddy

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Speaker 6: having shoddy a shoddy performances first year as head coach.

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Speaker 9: All right, you carry is more optimistic.

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Speaker 4: I am. I got you by Calvin, I got you,

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Speaker 4: he said, eight wins. All right, thanks