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Speaker 2: Play action pass looking throws over the middle of the

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Speaker 2: Good after Steelers Nation, and welcome to the drive.

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Speaker 4: A fun intro today, Happy Saint Patrick's day to you

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Speaker 4: and yours near and what's up, Matt?

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Speaker 2: I hope that put a little pep in your step

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Speaker 3: I knew something good was coming, but that was a surprise.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome, mixing a little the Kinger and the

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Speaker 3: Metcalf and that happens to be in Dublin. I assume

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Speaker 3: everyone put two and two together on that. You got

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Speaker 3: the shirt, good work, love it. You happen to know

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Speaker 3: someone who plays the Island.

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Speaker 4: Yes it's been It's been spoken about once or twice

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Speaker 4: here on the program before. But big shout out to

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Speaker 4: my dad of course, recently retired but thirty six year

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Speaker 4: He sent a fun, little happy Saint Patrick's Day video

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Speaker 4: to our family today. I sent it to you guys,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, we got to use this for

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Speaker 2: That's great, thanks to thanks to Pops.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll cook up a little something extra for hour

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Speaker 4: number two to bring us in as well.

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Speaker 2: But it is.

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Speaker 3: And then it's the coffee machine. You said. He went

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Speaker 3: to your daughter's daycare today too. He played for the whole.

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Speaker 3: They were all dancing around and that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: And my dad was like, how about Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 4: Like I'll play some you know, play some music and

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Speaker 4: And my dad was like, three hundred years ago and

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Speaker 4: number two. We're gonna do our twenty twenty six NFL

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Speaker 2: You know, Like I hadn't even thought about that.

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Speaker 2: For Denver, you're you're spot on.

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Speaker 4: And then for Miami, you now have two first round picks.

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Speaker 3: Give me something, right.

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Speaker 3: From that standpoint, I almost think you should have just

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Speaker 2: And now they get the guy that everybody wants. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: A whole lot that plays into this also with that

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Speaker 3: And a couple of those teams aren't bad. I mean

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Speaker 2: This is jarring.

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Speaker 3: It's nuts. It really is.

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Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins dead money for this season is now

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Speaker 2: Like it all works. It works in concerts, That's.

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Speaker 3: Might be horrendous. I mean, I'm I'm not standing the table.

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Speaker 4: We'll certainly be keeping an eye on Malik Willis. Absolutely

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so our lads probably does the best jobs.

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Speaker 3: right or is that too many? And I think that's right.

439
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Speaker 2: I think that's right. Yeah, it's a big number.

440
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Speaker 3: Now half those guys don't mac theme or you know,

441
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Speaker 3: although the practice squad is bigger than ever too.

442
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Speaker 2: Practice squad is bigger than ever.

443
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Speaker 3: So a lot of these dudes under contract, though, have

444
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Speaker 3: are long shots to say the least. That sounds like

445
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Speaker 3: a big number as we sit here on Saint Patty's Day.

446
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Speaker 2: It's not, no, no, absolutely.

447
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Speaker 3: Not futures contracts and weird things like that.

448
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Speaker 4: So we'll start with the offense and let's just kind

449
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 4: of go down the list here, quarterback right now, Mason

450
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Speaker 4: Rudolph and Will Howard.

451
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Speaker 3: So real quick. I think it's this conversation stemming from

452
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Speaker 3: the twitter questioned yesterday saying okay.

453
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Speaker 2: Where what next? Where we going next?

454
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Speaker 3: Yeah? But I know someone asked us something like series

455
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Speaker 3: of twelve picks, can they actually fit those guys under

456
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Speaker 3: the roster? And I was kind of like, well, there's

457
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Speaker 3: room for maybe one running back. You know, That's the

458
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Speaker 3: way I was going to view it, Like how many

459
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Speaker 3: Let's do it that way?

460
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Speaker 2: Like I love it.

461
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Speaker 3: Who do we think is like you.

462
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Speaker 2: Give a trusty dusty legal pad out.

463
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Speaker 3: We'll probably do a whole offensive segment, a whole defensive

464
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Speaker 3: segment like subject the change of course, and people will

465
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Speaker 3: get hurt and there will, But like, who do we

466
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Speaker 3: think are guaranteed to make the content to make the

467
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Speaker 3: final fifty three? And let's call it a ninety percent chance?

468
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Speaker 3: Like Cam Heyward's gonna make the team, right, but he

469
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Speaker 3: could retire or I mean, like something weird could happen.

470
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Speaker 3: But let me like yeah, yeah right, yeah, I mean

471
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Speaker 3: Andrew Luck retired a week before camp or something. But

472
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Speaker 3: let's assume so the quarterback room. I think Howard's the

473
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Speaker 3: only one under contract that I would say is garre

474
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Speaker 3: inteed to make the team. I know that sounds weird.

475
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Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, but as of this stage, though,

476
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Speaker 4: I would also be shocked if Mason Rudolph wasn't.

477
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Speaker 3: I'd be shocked as well. But my point is if

478
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Speaker 3: they were to use a third round pick on Nussmeyer

479
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Speaker 3: and Rogers returns, only three's making it sure, and I

480
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Speaker 3: think Rogers Rogers would be in. Obviously Howard would be in.

481
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Speaker 3: Maybe I can't imagine cotting him unless he's terrible.

482
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Speaker 4: I can't either, But I could imagine them trying to

483
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Speaker 4: stash nuss or one of those guys on the practice squad.

484
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Speaker 3: Because I mean, there's no way you kind audick.

485
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I think you're right, there's no way

486
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Speaker 4: you do that. But I also, again I'm being the godfather.

487
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think as those around me think. I

488
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Speaker 4: also don't see the Pittsburgh Steelers organization going into September

489
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Speaker 4: with will Or with Aaron Rodgers and two guys who

490
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Speaker 4: have never taken a snap in an NFL right over

491
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Speaker 4: season game.

492
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Speaker 2: So it's just not how they operate.

493
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Speaker 3: I urge people look at it, check it out, because

494
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Speaker 3: it's like what you and I do. But Max and

495
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: Pursuda and I did a live video where we picked

496
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Speaker 3: the Steelers first three rounds and I threw it out

497
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Speaker 3: to those two and I'm like, well, are we going

498
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Speaker 3: to even entertain a quarterback? It was once we got

499
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Speaker 3: to the third round and Pursuers like, I won't allow it,

500
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, let's at least talk this through.

501
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Max, what do you think? And Pursuer's like,

502
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Speaker 3: I won't allow it because I want can you really

503
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Speaker 3: develop two young quarterbacks at the same time? All the

504
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Speaker 3: reps at third round quarterbacks taking are ones at Howard

505
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: should be, you know, And am I just gonna cut

506
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Speaker 3: Rudolf for nothing? I'm like it's a good point. But

507
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Speaker 3: if you really like one that you think could be

508
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Speaker 3: a starter, I mean, I think there's two sides to it.

509
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Speaker 3: But so the original tweet was like is this would

510
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Speaker 3: be paraphrasing, but like could they draft another quarterback?

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the answer is you could, ye, sure, man,

513
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Speaker 3: Because and I'll be honest, there's a couple of late

514
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: round guys I'm starting to warm up to just or

515
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: intriguing to me. Speaking of Mache, this is a strange

516
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: one too. I'm gonna do a deep podcast on this today.

517
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Speaker 3: He did a ten year study of every quarterback drafted

518
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: outside of round one. Okay, ninety two percent of them

519
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Speaker 3: did not turn into long term starters.

520
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Speaker 2: I believe it.

521
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Speaker 3: The only ones are Dak Hurt recent that he started

522
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Speaker 3: with the Dak class just to include him. I'd been

523
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Speaker 3: double check a double jack.

524
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Speaker 4: Car would be outside of that range. Wilson would be

525
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Speaker 4: outside of that range. It was Hurts, Kirk Cousins outside

526
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Speaker 4: of that range.

527
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Speaker 2: He's been more too old too.

528
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Speaker 3: It was that party. There was three of them.

529
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Speaker 2: It was Purty, Dak, and Hurts.

530
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Speaker 3: And the book is still out on Willis now because

531
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Speaker 3: he was a third rounder and Shuck because he's secondary.

532
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Speaker 3: That's fair too, But ninety two percent of those dudes

533
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Speaker 3: do not turn him into long term starter. That doesn't

534
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Speaker 3: mean I don't get a shot, but that's my Howard pointed. Whenever,

535
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Speaker 3: because I hate Howard, I'm like, he's probably gonna be

536
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Speaker 3: the ninety two percent, not the eighth. But there are

537
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Speaker 3: the eight percent.

538
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Speaker 4: And there is that middle ground of Mason Rudolph types

539
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 4: who never carved out a career as a consistent starter

540
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 4: but obviously belong on a roster as a backup and

541
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Speaker 4: can can play.

542
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Speaker 3: And if and Rudolph was worth a third, Yes, that

543
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: guy's worth a third. I mean, if you have a

544
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Speaker 3: wealth of picks and you took the nuts, keep throwing

545
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Speaker 3: him out there in the third and he turns into

546
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Speaker 3: Rudolph and is a lifetime backup to Howard or next

547
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: year's first, it's still worth the pick. But anyways, I'm

548
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Speaker 3: derailing the exercise here. Let's say Rogers is on the

549
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Speaker 3: team though, for the sake of this article, because I

550
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Speaker 3: mean there's if it's not him, it's gonna be Cousins

551
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Speaker 3: or car somebody's going to make the team. What you're saying,

552
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Speaker 3: I don't think the starting quarterbacks on the team.

553
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Speaker 2: Can we say three for quarterback?

554
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Speaker 3: Just yeah? I think that's when we when we do this.

555
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Speaker 2: I think that's the safest way to do it.

556
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Speaker 3: Because they're going to add a quarterback even if Rogers

557
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: retires an hour from now. Yes, and that guy is

558
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Speaker 3: going to make the team because he's the star.

559
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Speaker 4: Yes, I think I think that's fair comp So we'll

560
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: go three for quarterbacks. Yes, running back, I think he's

561
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Speaker 4: only two. I think two certainly because obviously Caleb Johnson

562
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: is still under contract, and then Lou Nichols is signed

563
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: for a futures contract. But I'm saying two for that correct.

564
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Speaker 3: I think those two are definitely going to make like.

565
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: We're talking, definitely going to make the team.

566
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Speaker 3: Yes, that would be terrible if Johnson gets cut after

567
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Speaker 3: year one. That is a really wasted pick. I mean,

568
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Speaker 3: you got nothing out of his rookie year, and you

569
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: can't even blame injuries. But I can't say he's promised

570
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: a spot, no, especially with no ability thus far to

571
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Speaker 3: show that he can help on special teams.

572
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Speaker 2: Completely completely agree with you on that one.

573
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Speaker 3: But he might rip up the preseason, be.

574
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Speaker 2: Like, oh good, sure, hey, that'd be awesome, right right right?

575
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: Tight ends two to c JJ.

576
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Speaker 4: Gallbreath is still under futures contract, but I'm rolling with

577
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 4: two right now, and Darnell and move.

578
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: And that just means folks like Gallbreath will be in Latrobe.

579
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Speaker 4: That's all that for these futures guys, That's all that

580
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: that means is that they will be in Latrobe and

581
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Speaker 4: they will have a chance for those three weeks to prove.

582
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Speaker 3: Themselves, and I think he spent time on the practice

583
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: squad last year. I honestly don't know.

584
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: I believe so believe so.

585
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 3: So there's two tight ends that are gonna make the thing.

586
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: Yes, we know right now, Wide receivers DK obviously, Pittman obviously, Yes,

587
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: Schronic I think is he's just a clear.

588
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: Cut yes, especially after losing like Killer Brew and right.

589
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: His special teams value at this point is undeniable. I

590
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: think that's it is that it. I think so too.

591
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: That's why I said I'd still draft two. I mean,

592
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: you still have to draft one pretty high.

593
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson's still under contract.

594
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: And story's not written.

595
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, and so maybe he should be in

596
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: the conversation just because he's under contract, and.

597
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: I think he's like Caleb, like, I don't think he's

598
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: guaranteed to make the team.

599
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: You have a few guys that are still under futures

600
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: contracts at wide receiver, Max Hurlman, John Reeves, plumb Lee

601
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: Cole Burgess, Brandon Smith, A T.

602
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: Perry. I believe that that's the list.

603
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like those first two guys did some good

604
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: things at camp, and we talked about them when we

605
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: were doing the drive and you know they could come

606
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: back and be your sixth guy possibly. I mean that's

607
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: not it's not like they have no chance, but they're

608
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: not guaranteed to make the team, right, Metcalf's guaranteed to

609
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: make the team.

610
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: And then left tackle Roger Jones Dylan Cook. Listen, Yes,

611
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: Lorenzo Thompson is on a futures deal, but I think

612
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm just going to there as of now.

613
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: Yes, hypothetical, I could.

614
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: See a world.

615
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: Where Cook is really good. Jones is healthy, but Cook

616
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: beats him out And in the third round you drafted

617
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: a tackle and you're like, I bet somebody would give

618
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: us something for Roder Jones. Absolutely, I mean he could

619
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: play left tackle for a lot of teams and absolutely

620
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of abilities. So like, yes, you

621
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: have to say he's guaranteed that he's to make it as.

622
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Speaker 4: Of today, this is all of us. This could change

623
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Speaker 4: by the time we're on air tomorrow.

624
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: Yes, but he's a sneaky trade candidate, you know.

625
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: I think that's a fair way to label it.

626
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: And that'd be a great situation. That means he's healthy,

627
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: he's doing something good.

628
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: And you were confident enough in Cook, Yeah, one half

629
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Speaker 2: of that position.

630
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: Battle, and you're probably another guy waiting in the wings

631
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Speaker 3: left guard.

632
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just one in Spencer Anderson. Right.

633
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: You do have Doug Nestor still on a futures contract.

634
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: You do have said Tayou Lumeya on a futures contract.

635
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: But I think as of now, it's one in Spencer

636
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: and Now.

637
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: I also think Anderson, not that he needs to be worried,

638
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: but he's chances are their six ozero line stuffs percentage

639
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: is going to go down when they were at the

640
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: top of the league with it, and that seemed like

641
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: an Arthur Smith thing, last staff thing. I don't know

642
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: if that will carry over, and I doubt they just

643
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: say you're the starter. So I do think he'll make

644
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: the team, don't get me wrong.

645
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: Yes, but not guaranteed a spot at all. But I'd

646
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: be surprised if he wasn't on the roster.

647
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Speaker 2: Yes in September.

648
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: His usage isn't as firm as it was last time

649
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: we saw him, especially if they take Vega in the

650
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: first round or something too like now you're the ninth.

651
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: Guy in the not the sixth center. One one Zach Frazier. Yeah,

652
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: that's it, the lone man in the arena. Yeah, right guard.

653
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: I think it's just one as well. One and Mason McCormick.

654
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: Stephen Jones is under a futures contract. Aiden Williams is

655
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: under a futures contract right now. I think that's just one.

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Speaker 4: And then right tackle Troy Faltonu, Jack driscoll.

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Speaker 3: I only driscal is guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so either, So just one in Faltonu.

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Speaker 3: We didn't even bring him up, but the Steelers did

660
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Speaker 3: bring him back. Unlike the league minimum deal. I bet

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Speaker 3: there's no guaranteed money. He's been in the league. He's

662
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: played almost entirely right tackle or right guard. But he

663
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Speaker 3: was on the Steelers practice squad last year. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's a practice squad borderline guy that maybe he sneaks

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Speaker 3: on there or not, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So Matt with that exercise, The most jarring part

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Speaker 4: of it to me is one right tackle, one right guard,

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Speaker 4: one center, one left guard, two left tackles. That's six

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Speaker 4: only in the off it's a line group, but they usually.

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Speaker 3: Keep nine or ten.

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Speaker 2: That's where I'm going. Yea, yeah, right is that man?

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Speaker 2: It seems like I'm drafting two.

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Speaker 3: I've said that for a mind.

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Speaker 4: I'm drafting two, and I think one of them is

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Speaker 4: going to be the twenty first or the fifty third pick.

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Speaker 3: I'm leaning more and more that receiver and O line

677
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: are gonna be their top two picks in one order

678
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Speaker 3: or not, because you're probably gonna keep five or six

679
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: receivers too. Now you used to keep four tight ends,

680
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: that'll probably go back to three. Like most teams probably

681
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: keep three running backs. You could keep four, but one

682
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: has someone has to be good on special teams to

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00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: make that happen. So again, two receivers and two OH

684
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: line through the draft seem logical to me. Now, the

685
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Speaker 3: other step of this whole process is after the draft.

686
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of veterans out there that you could

687
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Speaker 3: get cheap. Sure you know that they won't. They may,

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Speaker 3: you know, like when they sign Kawan Alexander the one

689
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: year or every year, there'll be a name we thought

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00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna get a linebacker, and that doesn't mean they're

691
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: guaranteed roster spot. But usually when you sign the veteran,

692
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: that's a backup, but he's solid, he's pretty safe. You know,

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00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: they did keeping sound worse than it is.

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Speaker 2: Yes at this point, Yes, nine offensive linemen on the

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Speaker 2: initial fifty three the initial fifty three men roster last

696
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Speaker 2: year matt twenty five offense, twenty five defense, three specialists.

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Speaker 2: Especially right now we have sixteen that we say have

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Speaker 2: guaranteed spots on the roster, So sixteen out of twenty

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Speaker 2: five that I would not have guessed. But that's so

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Speaker 2: by that's not unusual different.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's like jarring or unusual now, but

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Speaker 4: I think it's pretty telling at this point that there's

703
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Speaker 4: still there's still up.

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Speaker 3: You look at it like, oh, they could never use

705
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Speaker 3: twelve draft picks.

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Speaker 2: We can get much not as much hay in the

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Speaker 2: barn as you think.

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Speaker 3: No, No, there definitely isn't. Especially if you get real

709
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: crazy and these teams do this and they'll look at it.

710
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: Who's under contract next year, it's way less, wayless. So

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Speaker 3: let's uh, Rudolph's not under the I mean there's a

712
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: lot of those dudes.

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Speaker 4: Let's run this same comation back for the Steelers defense

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Speaker 4: when we return to round out this first hour of

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Speaker 4: the drive here on this Tuesday Yu'ler Williamson Steelers Nation

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Speaker 4: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: What's up, NFL fans.

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Speaker 5: The NFL Draft is finally here, and while you might

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Speaker 4: I enjoy these kind of exercises, Matt. These are fun

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Speaker 4: off season conversations going through.

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Speaker 3: The way you have to do it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And it's jarring because it's not the way everybody views it,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And I think it kind of outlines where you're at,

735
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Speaker 4: what you still have ahead of you, and where you

736
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Speaker 4: can be looking for the Steelers to invest their remaining

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Speaker 4: salary cap, money, draft capital, all those different things on

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Speaker 4: down the list.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure there's some listeners like Wow, this is

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Speaker 3: worse than I thought. Yeah, no, this is how every

741
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: team is. I bet you if you did Miami's you'd

742
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: be like, oh my gosh.

743
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Speaker 4: Right now, someone like the Broncos, for example, might have

744
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: a little more continuity.

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00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: Fewer spots of the rams.

746
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Speaker 4: Teams like that might have a little more fewer spots available.

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Speaker 4: For the most part, this is the boat that people

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Speaker 4: are in this time of year. So if you're just

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Speaker 4: joining us, Matt and I going through the Steelers roster,

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Speaker 4: who is on the roster right now? Would we say

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Speaker 4: is guaranteed a roster spot.

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Speaker 3: That's a big statement, which.

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Speaker 4: Is a pretty significant statement. And again, as we sit

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Speaker 4: here today, this is all subject to change. For today, Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: March seventeenth, we came up with sixteen names on the offense.

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Speaker 3: How do we strongly feel is guaranteed?

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Speaker 2: That's the best way to put it. Now, let's run

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Speaker 2: the same exercise back on defense, Matt, are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Can we just lump the defensive line in together or

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Speaker 2: do you want a different like defensive line and edge.

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00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's lump them because they they keep.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we need to do like end or

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Speaker 4: tackle or no, no, no, no, just just the defensive tackle, yes, first, right,

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Speaker 4: and then we'll.

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Speaker 3: Do the Frankly, this latest signing shows more and more.

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Speaker 3: And we talked about the arm length and the height.

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Speaker 3: They differentiate between d end and nose much less than ever,

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Speaker 3: So just call him d tackle.

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Speaker 2: I think that's perfect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they usually keep seven and this is gonna

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Speaker 3: be a little full. This one's gonna be a little

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Speaker 3: fuller than you think.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Cam Hayward done, Derek Harmon duh yeah, Keanu Benton

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Speaker 4: duh Sebastian Joseph Day who they just signed.

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Speaker 3: All four of those are guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: And why a Black.

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Speaker 3: I think he's nine. He'd have to fall in his

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00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: face and have a terrible camp.

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Speaker 2: So that's five. Yes, Autumn wayo count I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I think him and Logan Lee actually count combined as

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Speaker 3: like a half, like they both could make it, you know,

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Speaker 3: and that could be they could be done, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the five plus one you would love to like.

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Speaker 3: Draft one in the third round, that is guaranteed, and

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Speaker 3: those two fight for the last spot and if somebody

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Speaker 3: that would be great. That's what you ideally want. And

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Speaker 3: they both play unbelievably well, and the world's you know,

790
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Speaker 3: rainbows and unicorns is galore, but neither one is definitely guaranteed.

791
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Speaker 3: But they have at least one foot in the door.

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Speaker 2: They're sitting in a better pole position than you.

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Speaker 3: Know, any of these other names will bring up a

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Speaker 3: D line.

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Speaker 4: Correct Kyler Baha and Anthony Goodlow and some of these

796
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Speaker 4: guys that are on.

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Speaker 2: Futures contracts as they are, And when.

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Speaker 4: Matt Williamson doesn't know who you are, that's usually not

799
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Speaker 4: the do something. So we go five plus one to

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Speaker 4: be six. I think that's I think I would say,

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: I bet one of those two makes the team, maybe.

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Speaker 2: Both, unless they go and draft multiple defense lineman or

804
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: would be rare, which was especially after signing Joseph Day right,

805
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Speaker 2: which I just.

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Speaker 3: That's why I like the Joseph Day signing so much better.

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00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: That that room got pretty solid, and because I don't

808
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: like the D tackle draft, that's why they did it.

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Speaker 3: That's right. It's all starting to come into not an accident.

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Speaker 2: Edge rushers four TJ. High Smith Herbig.

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Speaker 3: Sawyer, and they usually keep four. Sometimes it'll be a

812
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Speaker 3: fifth if he's really good on teams. A Moon or

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Speaker 3: somebody like that. But those four are going to make

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Well, Shoff still under a futures.

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Speaker 4: Deal and he's been around a little bit in kJ

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Speaker 4: Henry under a futurest Those are the two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a spot for another. But then you'd

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Speaker 3: have to like steal from an inside linebacker or a

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Speaker 3: safety or something like that, probably, and you don't have

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Speaker 3: to go twenty five to twenty five to three. No,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's not always that way.

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Speaker 4: No, And in fact, I would imagine that could potentially

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Speaker 4: change because a big part of that was the Steelers

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00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: kept four tight ends last year and now they included

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Speaker 4: Connor Heyward his tight end full back. Yeah, four active

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Speaker 4: on the initial fifty three. I don't know if that'll

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Speaker 4: be the case.

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Speaker 3: But the wide receivers, yeah yeah, just sure. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: you could live with five whiteouts.

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Speaker 4: True linebackers off ball linebackers is the kids like to

832
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 4: call him nowadays, Patrick Queen, Peyton Wilson, Cole Hokum, Carson Brunner.

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Speaker 2: That's four. Harrison still only still on the team.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not I don't know, I could he's a yes.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's a yes like those other four are.

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Speaker 3: I feel less and less strong about this, But I

837
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Speaker 3: didn't think he'd ever be on the team this long.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a Cornero Patterson type situation. It is,

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Speaker 4: we don't need the money, why would we put him

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Speaker 4: out there. We could always change our mind, or somebody

841
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: could get hurt, or something could happen, or the draft

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Speaker 4: board doesn't fall the way that we think it's too

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Speaker 4: and we don't get the linebacker in the fourth round

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Speaker 4: that we had a third round grade on.

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Speaker 3: It's all rumor and speculation, but if there were talks

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Speaker 3: about trading Queen, Wow, of then we're pro pretty happy

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Speaker 3: we at least have Harrison around. Like I'm I'm not

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00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: saying Queen's not part of this, he definitely should be.

849
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: Brunner's kind of a have to like. I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's guaranteed to make the team. I mean, he's a

851
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: seventh round pick last year. It looks like your next

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00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 3: great special team.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing to me is you've lost so

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Speaker 2: much of your.

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Speaker 3: Special strongly if you it wouldn't pay very much to

856
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: say does Brunner make the team or not? Three hundred

857
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: bucks pays you like twenty bucks. You know, what I mean, like,

858
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: I think he will. But if you get the crunching

859
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: time and it's like somebody's got to go, and he's

860
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: our fifth linebacker because we love the guy in the

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Speaker 3: fourth round that we couldn't believe or there, the top

862
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: three are definite. Yeah, we do contry, do we do?

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Speaker 4: Kind of like we did with the defensive lineman with

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Speaker 4: the tackles, where we say, of Bruner and Harrison, one

865
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Speaker 4: of those guys, so.

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Speaker 2: We'll count them as one.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's fair. Is that fair with Brunner being

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Speaker 3: the much more likely Yes?

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Speaker 2: Agree, Yeah, so we'll count four for that position.

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Speaker 3: I think that's yes, And you could keep five certain

871
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Speaker 3: especially if Brunner certainly, because I don't think you want

872
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: Bruner on the defense. He's like keeping Killer brew where

873
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: we are in lockstep there. Yeah.

874
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: Cornerback Joey Porter Jr.

875
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: Well, actually let me ask you this, where we we

876
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: count in Ramsey as a corner.

877
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think more and more they're gonna fudge

878
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: those numbers a little bit, which is kind of the

879
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: benefit of him for this. Maybe you should should we

880
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: just do defensive backs, but the safeties are a lot different.

881
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: I think this exercise, it doesn't matter as much because

882
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 4: it's just it does.

883
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: It's the pure numbers.

884
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: Like, I bet they keep ten defensive backs between the

885
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: two between the two, six and four, maybe nine they

886
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: kept ten often with Killer Brew. Well, let's call Ramsey

887
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: a corner for the fun. Okay, So but I don't

888
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: I think we can say these things. But like they

889
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: supposedly brought in Jalen Johnson in for a visit today

890
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: or not Jalen Johnson, Chris Johns, Chris Johnson, who would

891
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 3: be an early second round pick, and he's a strict

892
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: outside corner. If they plan on drafting a strict outside corner,

893
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna make the team, especially an early second round pick,

894
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: and they might view Ramsey's a safety. So this one's

895
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: still if you've noticed every time we have a beat

896
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: reporter on or anyone around the team, like, what do

897
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 3: you think, right, And maybe the answer is we don't

898
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: have to know.

899
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: Now I think that is certainly yeah, which is kind

900
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 4: of cool, certainly fair.

901
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: But he's gonna make the team.

902
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 2: But he's gonna make the team.

903
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: Maybe he's his own category.

904
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: So let's.

905
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe we should just do this as defensive backs

906
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: all kind of lumpy one. But let's let's you know what,

907
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 4: let's count Ramsey's a corner for now.

908
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: And do it that way. So, so Ramsey, Joey Porter Jr.

909
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: Jamel Dean, Brandon Eccles.

910
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 3: Samuel Samuels, those five are making the team.

911
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's the number for me. I'm not

912
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: I'm not counting Trice. I'm not counting Dante Kent.

913
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: That's why I think that they might not draft one.

914
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 4: July view Ramsey as a corner. He's going to be

915
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: that that big slot, that big nickel. Then yeah, I

916
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: don't think that they'll draft right right because they'll say

917
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 4: it's like, can we have Corey Trice? Let those guys

918
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: battle it out for potentially the last spot.

919
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: If one is capable.

920
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: Trice, they still love, It's just do we trust them.

921
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: Kent did nothing wrong. I mean, I don't think they

922
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: lost faith at him, but maybe this coaching staff doesn't

923
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: like him as much. You know, he does have some

924
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: special teams value. I mean you could go to camp

925
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: with just that group basically and not draft one.

926
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet.

927
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: I mean if they end up taking if they make

928
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: ten picks, I bet they take one on the sixth

929
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: or seventh round. But it's also odd to me that

930
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: they brought in a guy that's a high pick for

931
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: a visit.

932
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's a you're reading the tea leaves.

933
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, And then so so we'll go five

934
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: for corner, counting Ramsey there, and then if we go

935
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: safety Deshaun Elliott in, Jakwan Brisker.

936
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: In, that might be it at this point, right.

937
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: I know Savage has been thrown out there, but he's

938
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: not officially.

939
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: By the team where we're gonna let leave out a

940
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: weird career.

941
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure he guaranteed a roster spot before

942
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: we'd even comment that.

943
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: I would like the Sebastian Castro he'll be in the mix,

944
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: but I don't. He's certainly not getting team.

945
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, they should probably draft a safety, even if they

946
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 6: look at Ramsey as safety only, he's never going to

947
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 6: play the slot and again his life, I think you

948
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 6: have to draft the safety, all right.

949
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: And it's a great safety draft, and there are a

950
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: lot of speed there to draft from, and that will

951
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: also be a special team guy.

952
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: You would hope twenty one in total we have there

953
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: for the defense.

954
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: How many defensive backs total?

955
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: Five corners to safety seven total.

956
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: Okay, that is again with Ramsey as a corner, but

957
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: you could flip flop them and make it four and

958
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: three instead of five and two.

959
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: Super quick conversation.

960
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: The three specialists, Coons and.

961
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: Bass are in, Johnston or another punter is in. They're

962
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: only going to keep it, you know, no matter what.

963
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: You know, maybe they bringing an undrafted punter or a

964
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: seventh round punter or something like that, but who cares.

965
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: So that's in total them both in total, that's forty.

966
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: If there was a lot more defense and offense.

967
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 4: Right sixteen compared to twenty one, which I think makes

968
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 4: a difference, which I think makes sense. Yeah, it's a veteran,

969
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 4: established defense with a lot of guys that you know,

970
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 4: have been all pros.

971
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: Are gonna go to Canton one day.

972
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: You know, there's more money invested on that.

973
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: There's more money invested on that side.

974
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you've had recent like your first round

975
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: pick was was a defensive lineman last year.

976
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the guys are guaranteed to make the team,

977
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: you know, you know, Passions and Porters and those guys too.

978
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: Exactly.

979
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: We're kind of like the Frasers and Falton who's exactly right.

980
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: So what this tells us is there are room for

981
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: more things. I mean, you could certainly add somebody else

982
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 3: in free agency, a guard, or you could even add

983
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: a Christian Kirk Calvin Austen like wide receiver at the

984
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: right price two weeks from now. But I also think

985
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 3: it's pretty safe to say it's gonna offensive heavy draft. Yes,

986
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: I think we know that. I mean, by doing this exercise,

987
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: you know that. I don't know how many picks they'll make.

988
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: I still don't think they'll make twelve, even though they

989
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: could conceivably get all twelve on the roster. But that's

990
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: a tight squeeze.

991
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: So if we buy that list now, forty names out

992
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: of fifty three plus a practice squad, so that's a

993
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's still a lot of spots.

994
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: It's a lot of new Steelers that are in the.

995
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: Horizon, a lot of spots up for grabs.

996
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there they really are. And again you'll grab

997
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: two or three guys maybe even more post draft that

998
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: people have heard of, like Joe Hayden came then. I

999
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: mean that's a YEP. Usually doesn't go that well. That's

1000
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: a little bit of an apple y y Y yeah,

1001
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: but they'll add every year they've added two or three

1002
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: veterans that have had five or six.

1003
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: Who was the couple of years ago during training camp

1004
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: traded for the linebacker.

1005
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: That was with I said there was a lot of

1006
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: linebacks with.

1007
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: The Browns and Shobert was that as last? Was that

1008
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: his last time?

1009
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1010
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: Right, Joe Shobert was the Browns and then the Jags.

1011
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 4: The Steelers trader Forrman.

1012
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: Trade of examples, right, and remember McDonald.

1013
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: Was added during the animal was added during training camp

1014
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: from San Francisco. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so but but that's

1015
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: still that's a lot as much as there's a lot

1016
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: of established guys, there's still a lot of there's a

1017
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: lot of seats left in the musical chairs equation.

1018
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I guess between now and final between now

1019
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: in training camp, you and I will introduce fifteen new Steelers,

1020
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: not everyone that will definitely make the team, but you know,

1021
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: fifteens that are either drafted or signe agents or something.

1022
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: And and unfortunately, when you get to the final cuts,

1023
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: you're gonna put three of these guys on ir, you know, unfortunately,

1024
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: or two of them you hope it's not what metcalf

1025
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: and ham right, right, right right, you know, right, and

1026
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: some of them sometimes they have a hangnail and they

1027
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: go and injury reserve and despise you a year. But

1028
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: people will get hurt between now and then. You know,

1029
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: this is not an easy game. That's roster building one

1030
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: on one. That was a exercise. Maybe we do this again,

1031
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: somebody get real crazy, do this in June when we're bored,

1032
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: and just look who's under contract a year from now.

1033
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll have to REVISI.

1034
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: Well, they have no safeties on the whole team. You know,

1035
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: they're definitely drafting a safety.

1036
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 4: We will have to revisit some version of this exercise

1037
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: later on in the off season for sure, but that

1038
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: will do it for the first hour of the show.

1039
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: On the other side, we got a fun tweet from

1040
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: Nick the other day about if we were to put

1041
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: all the quarterbacks in the NFL right now into a

1042
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: draft pool, how would we pick them.

1043
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: We'll kick that around, Okay, I guess some ideas how

1044
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: to tweak that just a little. I love it because

1045
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: that's a massive undertaking.

1046
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: We'll do it live.

1047
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I don't I don't think

1048
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: we needed to necessarily draft sixteen each, right, but we'll

1049
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: we'll put.

1050
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: Some parameters around to kick off our numbers.

1051
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: Two.

1052
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, sheeler Matt Williamson halfway home. It's the Drive

1053
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