WEBVTT - #184 - Kevin Gates 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.720 Hey, what's saying is Kevin Gates. Make sure you check 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:13.800 me out on the Bootleg care podcast bulet Cap Show 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:19.279 Special guests in here the legendary Kevin Gates. I got 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.400 a question. Thank you for having me? Of course? Could 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.320 I pray first? Let's go man, of course, let's do it, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.760 Old bladman and shape throwing the gene this middle lot 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:34.440 of Manabohiman and Manabaheim mighty killed me. Dean, Yeah, can 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.680 I yeah? Can I stay anything? Don't sit out with 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:41.360 muster king set off and you mcda want a dog? 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:47.560 I mean like zala, mean y'all lotapology with yah I 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.080 might have created and makeup of evans and earth. Thank 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.200 you following on for blessings in what you bestowed upon 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.360 us in this life and in the alf and did 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.400 you forgive us follow hours since we forget those who 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.840 sent against us, even the since we may have committed 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.280 knowing and nothing knowing with each and ever brother and 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.360 sister and all living species, those lost fine and costs 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.200 rated those free. Did anything that I say that's uplifting 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.520 to people come from you? And you alone? Did anything 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:17.160 that I say that not uplifting? The people come from 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.720 the shade time and me, I'll be here responsible. I mean, 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.240 there it is. You know, what's the last time I 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.720 interviewed you. You You prayed before the interview too. That was 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.720 talking about with dude with DJ had that don't touch 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.080 Me interview. But it wasn't like I think that that 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.559 was misinterpreted. No, you know what, I go ahead ahead, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.960 like I understand what you're saying, but please don't touch 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:46.560 me again. I just it's just was different. And I'm 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.680 not trying to have picks and choosers, but some people 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.800 the energy is in the alantment. Other people the energy 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.400 is not in the alamic. And there's nothing against him. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.880 He's a great guy, great guy, great guy. You know 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.800 what I'm saying. It's just I believe that maybe my 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.520 energy was off that day. You know what's interesting about 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.760 that about that day was we did the interview, and 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.680 after the interview, I don't know if you remember, we 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.760 talked for like an hour and you played us the 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.520 album and you were like, man, I wish we would 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.919 have started the interview now because now I know y'all 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.720 and now if you know, you stepped into an unfamiliar 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:25.440 situation and it's just was it was tense, being that 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.880 I had just came home. Yeah, you were fresh out. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.880 I was on supervis release, so I was still in 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.760 a different type of mode. I was can we get 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.119 the mic in front of you if you don't mind, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.400 just say I was still in a transitioning period from 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:44.840 being in the box to being back in society, so 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.480 you know, it was still a little different for me. Yeah, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.079 that was. That was I always because because people always 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.679 ask me about that one moment, and I'm always like, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:52.919 you know what I tell them, I'm like, you know 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.760 what's crazy is after the interview ended, we hung out 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.680 and the energy was amazing, amazing. Yeah, and like you 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.200 played it the whole album front to back and we 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.000 had good talks like it was. It was, it was, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.840 that was still a it was. I mean, I don't 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.600 be honest with you, Like when I look at old 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:16.359 interviews and old videos on myself, I cringe, Like that's 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:20.079 the that was the own drugs, Kevin. Wow, that was 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:25.040 the that was the fact, you know, unhealthy on drugs. Like, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.520 I don't know, It's beautiful because I could look at 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.919 my growth and see it, but I never want to 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:36.200 be that person again, right ever? In life? What do 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.600 you think was the turning point for you to get sober, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.320 and because I just feel like you're more spiritually just intact, 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.640 like I feel like you're tapped in. Yeah, man, I 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.480 feel like the energy is different. I tell you something 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.480 I never told people before in an interview. I've been 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:57.760 spiritual my whole life, and I think instead of owning 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:02.560 up to my responsibility, I would use drugs to kind 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:07.680 of dim my light, so to say, or turn my 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.240 gift down a little, because when it's intense, it's intense. 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.839 When you in tune, you in tune. And it also 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.839 I had a fear of people looking at me weird 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:26.560 for my beliefs, my belief system. But everybody has to 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.919 win their own way, and right now I'm winning my 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.040 own way, Like for the first time of my life, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.200 I'm proud of myself. Like I could cry right now. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.720 I'm proud of myself. I think about everything I've been 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.400 through and I look at where I'm at now. And 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.720 I always hear people say without a test you can 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:50.560 never have a testimony. But like for anybody that's suffering 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.360 with depression or you done been through something in your 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.960 past that was traumatic, we are not our past. Every day, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.240 you have a chance an opportunity. Every day he is 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.640 a new opportunity to find your gratitude and be better 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.680 than what you was the day before. A lot of 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.239 people say that they figure life out when they start 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.360 moving with gratitude. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.000 being thankful for just as little as shit, man, Because 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.159 sometimes I feel like we get so wrapped up and 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.600 chasing what's next. We don't live in the moment. We 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.360 don't appreciate what's going on right now. I was, I 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:32.839 was at this other spot downtown. I was there at 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.200 eleven o'clock, eleven thirty. I left at ten. I was like, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.960 I'm gonna always be there early. And then I went 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.640 to the old building, the one across from the whole Fools. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:49.039 I was dead twelve forty five, and then it just 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.200 was meant to be. And then we came over here. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.960 But I used to record here. Well on the other side, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.640 are we in next door? There's a studio two doors. Yeah. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.240 I used to record here, recorded murder for how you 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.400 Oh wow, yes, sir, Yeah, I got this place in 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.800 February before the pandemic started years ago. Yeah, but this 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.760 I know, this place was I mean, you know, people 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.560 use this as a studio still. I mean that's kind 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.080 of at night, it's a recording studio. During the day 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:19.440 we do the show here beautiful. But yeah, man, it's 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.320 just been dope to see your growth. And like I said, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.360 I got to get an early listen. Well, the album 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.280 is out now, so when this comes out, it's out. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.440 But I listened to the whole album front to back, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.560 and it feels like, I guess it feels like what 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.840 you just said, you're proud of yourself. It feels like 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.400 this was a lot of it felt like a therapeutic 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.839 body of work. Yeah. I did a lot of releasing 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.400 on this project. I rough with a lot of feathers. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.279 Please find it in your heart to forgive me. I'm 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.840 so non sorry. Yeah, even this super Grimlin freestyle you're 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.559 going off five minutes straight. Yeah, it was a super 0:06:55.560 --> 0:07:01.480 general free I mean five minutes straight, just delving through everything. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.000 It was a release yeah man, it was it just Yeah, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.040 that freestyle's crazy, like, uh, you know, obviously there's the 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.200 parts that went viral, but the parts that didn't go 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.320 viral where you're really kind of just bearing your soul 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:19.880 on that thing. People, people gravitate to what they want 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:24.040 to gravitate to. You know, I guess it was like Gumbo. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.040 It had a little something, had something for everybody for sure, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:32.560 for everybody. I guess, yeah, one hundred percent. How do 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.640 you feel like, because you know, I feel like it's 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.120 twenty twenty two, you know, maybe the last five or 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.080 six years and hip hop has been a real drug 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.440 infuse vibe. You've been through your struggles with drug addiction. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.480 What is some advice you would give up and coming 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.560 artists who maybe where you are are at where you 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.320 were maybe a couple of years ago right now, that 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.520 maybe you want to change their life. It's not a 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:01.960 bad thing at all. Like these are people that choose 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.600 to self medicate. And I don't judge, but I pray 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:11.560 that everybody finds their way eventually, because when I was 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.320 on that level, I was doing what people on that 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.240 level did. I guess so to say, yeah, you know, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:24.640 it's about frequency, it's about raising your vibration. And I 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.640 used to use drugs. It's more like a coping mechanism, 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.360 I guess, so to say alcohol too as a vice. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.559 I got on alcohol. I never drank, I never drank, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:43.120 but I got on alcohol like two thousand eighteen. It 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.800 was like maybe eighteen or nineteen. That's not long ago. Yeah, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.560 And I just I just I just wanted to feel good. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.880 I just wanted to numb everything and not feel it. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.120 And that's what. But I'm making it like I was 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:01.560 just a big alcoholic because I can't drink. I can't 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.000 have a tolerance. Yeah, I got a low tierce like 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.640 you give me one or two shots. I'm you're you're, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.640 you're on a level it's over with. I'm souced up. Yeah. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.440 So but I saw a laugh that I was on 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.240 live one time, and I was on it. I was like, man, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.640 that's embarrassing. Look at yourself. And I started talking to myself. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:24.199 I'm like, man, come on, that's not him. What were 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.520 like the like your drugs of choice? Like if you 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.120 were coping, like what would be? Was it? Was it? Lean? 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.320 Was it? I used to drink a lot of lean. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.280 I don't think I have a sit down with you 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.200 to do an interview. And I wouldn't just fresh off 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.360 the cup. It's a hard thing to kick right, drink 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:47.240 a lot of lean and I didn't probably smoke more 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:53.720 weed than a chimney. Are you off a weed period. Yeah, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.280 I went through my face. Well I'm off of it. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:02.920 But once I finished this run, I want to go 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.360 somewhere and just smoke. Relax, just relax and just smoke. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.200 I just want to smoke. I just really want to 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.720 just get high and just relax. And it's nothing like that, man, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.319 I think about nothing. Man, there's nothing like getting high 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.360 and just looking at the sky too. But I'm just 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.679 too focused right now. Respect it to so bad, but 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.160 I'm just too focused. Have you done any psychedelics, like 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.240 what kind of psychoths? Mushrooms, ayahuasca? You know? Because I 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:34.520 know right now shroom psilocybin is something I don't. I 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.680 hate to say this. I'm in a medicine tribe. I 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.480 come from a medicine tribe my mother's side of the family. 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:48.400 They native to this land. M hm. So you've done psilocybin, Yeah, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.319 I don't know what the trooms. I grow my own mushrooms. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.959 That's amazing. Golden teachers, Golden teachers, a good shroom strain. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.400 And to be honest with you, it's the spiritual aspect 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.920 of the mushrooms. You know. What's crazy is I've been 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.120 paying attention to you the last few years and I'm like, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.160 I have a feeling Gates is like woke in that space. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.080 I just got that feeling. I've been. Yeah, I just 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.000 never talked about it. I've been. It's such a powerful 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.920 thing to like when I see people. I hate to 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.400 say this, when I see people take mushrooms and they like, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.199 I take it with candy that's processed sugar, You're not 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:31.240 respecting the spirit of the mushrooms. The mushroom spirits, Like 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.679 what the beautiful thing about mushrooms? They heal what needs 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.880 to be healed. If a tree is dying under the 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.040 under the I'm not trying to be all what they 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.720 call it, all nerdy, right, No, no, no, this is 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.200 but pacha Mama Mother Earth. The earth is our mother. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.240 She was here long before, she'll be here long after 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:59.160 we leave. Okay, under the ground the roots are connected 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.000 like this, All of the trees are connected. If one 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.160 tree over here is the can then what the mushrooms 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.520 do is they'll grow in a line. You obvious see 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.520 the mushrooms. They always grow in a line from one 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.200 tree to the other. They tap down into the root 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.400 system and they bring energy from one tree to the other. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:22.000 That's how advance that nature is. Nature is more advanced 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.240 than we will ever be. That they communicate, Like I 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.439 know this sounds weird, but the trees com they communicate 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.760 with one another. It's like if you know anything about 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:38.640 harvesting flowers something o ea. Like that's I hear people 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.000 say weed onn like I like to address about her 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.719 her name, like it's a spirit, like marijuana is a 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:49.400 spirit something o ea. Something of their spirit. When you harvesting, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.559 you can't harvest your flowers in the same room with 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.800 the other flowers. They give off enzymes and the other flowers. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.679 How do they communicate like that? It's far more advanced 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.960 than we even know, we will ever understand. So every 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.840 everything has an essence. And when I say native to 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.720 this land, I'm talking about the Titano Indians. You know, 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.680 it's like the Tinino Indians is made up of everything. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.439 They made up a chock tall chero key everything or 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.760 pet everything because they was taken from this land and 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.720 dispersed all over the Caribbean during slavery. So that's why 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.360 you got Titano Indians in Jamaica all the way around 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.840 the Caribbean to Puerto Rico. So that's like I said 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.400 Titino like they native. Yeah, I feel like the way 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.520 plants communicate, the way ants community saying that because if 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.360 somebody listen, they gonna be like you said native American, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.560 you know, said his mother, you know, and I just 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.360 just giving up their tea being in case because they 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.480 love people love to critique me for some reason. Yeah, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.680 I've gotten super high and just thought, how the fuck 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.400 do trees talk to each other? How do ants talk 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.200 to each other? Like there's like a frequency, it's like 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:08.960 a pulsation, it's electric. That's why your phone don't work 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:13.640 around trees. That's wild, that's real. Uh. Have you ever 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.120 had like a really therapeutic because you know, sometimes for 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.760 people who don't know if you do shrooms, they got 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.600 a certain they got certain levels of doses. Right, There's 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.400 there's microdosing, and then there's the hero's dose, which is 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.200 what people do when they just want to like work 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.400 through thirty years of shit in one sitting. Have you 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.920 ever had like a therapeutic moment on shrooms. I'm a 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.840 big shroom guy, So yeah, was it something? Because I 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.960 know I know a few people who've like literally had 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.840 life changing experiences. You've had that experience, do you remember 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.760 like what it was or because some I don't think 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.560 people understand. I think people don't do it. Think it's 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.280 like you take shrooms and you hallucinate, or you see 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.360 see things that aren't there, which it's more of like this. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.840 It pulls back what's already there. There's your neuro paths, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.080 it may have. The beautiful thing about the body is 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:12.000 if we've experienced trauma, our bodies will suppress that trauma 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.880 so we don't have to keep reliving and it won't 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.600 have to hurt us. What happens is you may you 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:23.600 may be exhibiting a behavior that stems from a traumatic past. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.840 So once you sit and really respect the mushrooms and 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.360 sit with them and ask yourself, why am I like this? 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.560 Why why do I do this? Why do I do that? 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.320 And it'll be revealed to you everything. All of the 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.520 answers are within not the next turn could ever add value? 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.480 Have you ever done you ever? Have you ever smoked 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.520 the toad as Mike Tyson would call the d M 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:56.520 T that's the toad. Yeah, well it's two different ways, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:02.400 that's two different toads told medicine. One is boufo. That's 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.120 where you smoked it when they rub his back, right, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.400 that's what I'm saying for you free base it. And 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.880 then the other one where you clean your lymphatic system 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:16.840 is humbosito cumber and they take where it's still the 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.600 same poison, but they put it on you. They burn 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.200 you and put it on your skin. That sounds great. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.080 I haven't heard of that. Have you done that? Have you? 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.200 Have you tried that? Like I said, I'm in a 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.680 medicine tried that's fire man. I'm so scared to try 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.000 it because I hear you're kind of gone for like 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.640 you know, fifty four, Yeah, like you hit it and 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.840 then you're just you're just kind of I'm not saying 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.840 that I ever tried it, but I'm gonna say you're 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.080 gonna be gone for like ten minutes, but it's gonna 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:50.560 feel like you've been gone for years. I've heard that, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.560 I feel like you've been gone for a long time, 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:58.280 but you only been gone for ten minutes. But that's 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:03.480 just those are just starter kids like ayahuasca and excuse me, 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:08.400 excuse me, mother theay ayahuasca, because you gotta be respectful 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.440 when you're speaking of these spirits that they're strongest medicines 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:17.680 that come from the earth. But they just start up 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.600 starting kids. To me, they just let you know what's 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:27.840 already in you. You can reach these same levels through control, breathing, meditation. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.520 You can reach these levels. You can unlock the d 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.359 MT that's naturally produced in your body through breathing. I 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.720 didn't know that. Yeah, so all of these feelings that 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.639 we're trying to feel, we can unlock them there. Yeah, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.560 there's just certain things that kind of help, I guess 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.600 jump start. It's like a jump start, like a starter kid. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.760 It helps you understand and realize what's already there. Yeah. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.119 Ayahuasca is something I know you got to have like 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:01.480 a shaman, and you know, probably prepare with your diet 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.200 before you do something like that. It's like, well that's 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:10.920 a special diet. Yeah. All liquids, no fool. You don't 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.000 want any dense energy. You want to vibrate at the 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.120 highest frequency possible and when you hold space, you hold 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:22.320 in the sacred space ceremony. A lot of people don't 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.880 talk about it. I mean I don't care to really 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.600 talk about it because when you hear about it, you 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.120 hear all these Yeah. Man, it was a trip it's 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.520 not a trip, Like, it's not a drug. It's not 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:39.320 something you do recreationally. Correct. Yeah, I think that's the difference. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.680 I think, like even with shrooms, which is obviously a 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.960 lot more mild than ayahuasca, but it's like your like, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.320 when you take it, what's your intent because that's probably 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.119 what you're going to get out of it. You gotta 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.400 it's better when you do anything, you should state your intentions. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.760 You should be intentional with everything you do. You chudging, Water, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.720 I mean is living. I'm not trying to sound weird, 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:09.480 but it's a spirit's living life. Water is life without it? 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.440 What are we? You're right? Hey, water is literally like 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.400 like one of those you know, eccentric people right now. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.479 There's nothing wrong with being eccentric. Guy, man, I'm not 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:22.119 trying to sound like that. What did you you you 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.040 kind of pulled this out of me. If it was 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.440 if it was talking about some music or some ship, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.600 then yeah, but it's like we kind of you kind 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.520 of pulled this out of me, and it's just like 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.040 coming out because I usually don't have these conversations, especially 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.800 in interviews, right right right, you obviously you're in great 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:47.560 shape right now. You Yeah, square. Yeah, man, what dietary 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.639 things are you doing that kind of have gotten Obviously 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.119 you're hitting the gym, but in terms of just all 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.159 three times a day in the gym, how I got skinned. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.119 It got on that alcohol which kind of helped me 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.720 block out all myself. Yeah. I was gonna saying we 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.439 can get see adderall, which is, by the way, if 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.960 you ever edit video, all the video editors I know 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.919 are on adderall. God bless them. No, I tried. This 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.000 is my first time speaking about it. I tried adderall. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.800 I ain't gonna say I tried it. I did it 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.880 as a pre workout. I did adderall and pre workout 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.359 at the same time. Yeah, I was in a gym 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:26.760 like I was on a mission. In my mind. It 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:33.040 don't stay focused. Well then it didn't stay focused, and 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:38.760 then thank God for Ambrosia. They came out with this 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:44.720 mushroom pre workout. Yeah. A lot of people are doing it. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.439 I know people who will microdoes before their workout. No, 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:52.800 I'm I'm on ambrosia ore workout right now. That's interesting, 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.080 big and full of mushrooms. I take some and recharge. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.399 So the adderall though, kind of got you like super focused, 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:04.120 to get in the gym initially when you tried it, Yeah, 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.840 I get yeah, I guess that's what you want to say. Yeah, 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.119 it's a very they say, it's like, what's that that 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.080 limitless pill in that movie? That that movie where you 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.399 take it and you could get ship done. It's not 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:21.639 like that. But I lost a lot of weight, Like 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.239 when people tell me, when people used to say you 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.239 had surgery, I used to look at it offensively. But 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.679 you know, I looked that good that you think I 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.480 had surgery. But nah, they thought you had like a 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.680 male BBL or something. I think that's wild. I think 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.520 that's what. I don't know because I never had that surgery. 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.840 Of course, I had been shot before and I had 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:47.119 surgery on my leg and that was just horrific. And 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.080 I was like, I never willingly undergo that type of screw. Yeah, 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.400 you'll never go under the knife unless you have to. Yeah, 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.520 I'm not doing to forgive me. I get mine out 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.399 the mud, which my finish journey took a little longer. 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.000 But the beautiful thing about it was when I first 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.479 started working out, I was still doing drugs. Then I 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:11.320 noticed that I start slacking up on the drugs because 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.639 it was like, you know, I don't have any energy 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.680 to get up and work out in the morning. Then 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.680 I noticed my work. I started being able to work 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:26.439 out more proficient, if that's the right word. Yeah. So 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:31.880 I noticed that, And then I also noticed that once 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:36.160 I started making small diet changes. It's like I wanted 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.520 to take my singing seers. 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