WEBVTT - Working Yourself to Death, Literally

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we owned it. What's her Family's your girl

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<v Speaker 1>to make a d mallory and it's your board in general,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are your hosts of street politicians, the places

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets and politics. Me, what's going on? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like glued glued glued to the TV today. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening now has to do with Steve Bannon, um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a whole different set of circumstances. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Rittenhouse trial is happening. Obviously, folks know, we tape

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days before the episode actually airs, and

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<v Speaker 1>so today, um, the information maybe a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe a little delayed from what was actually taking

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<v Speaker 1>place at the time that we uh take this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But we watched as uh the weapons charges, most of

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons charges were thrown out of the caves, and

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<v Speaker 1>so some how another decision was made that the weapons

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<v Speaker 1>that Kyle Rittenhouse had with him were inadmissible in this

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the trial, but particularly in the closing

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<v Speaker 1>arguments and in terms of what the jury instructions are

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<v Speaker 1>for what they can take back with them after closing arguments.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not understand, and I know I'm not a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't had a chance today to have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with lawyers and understand. But I'm on text threads

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<v Speaker 1>with a number of legal professionals and and lawyers, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see anybody given an explanation that makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>about this at all, because it doesn't make sense, man,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's the same old and what we

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<v Speaker 1>call the kangaroo court man that we we We've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>We've witnessed it. We I've been involved in it. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been a victim of these kangaroo courts, and it always

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<v Speaker 1>seems that, you know, some people have the complexion for

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<v Speaker 1>the protection and it does. It just really makes no

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<v Speaker 1>sense that we even have to have these conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>constantly keep seeing these injustices you know, occur, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and people get mad when we say we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>faith in the system, like when when people just don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about the system and we want to we want

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that there's a system that works, that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a system of accountability, there's a system with fan and

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<v Speaker 1>equal treatment, that everyone is created equally and all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just doesn't happen that way. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a classic example. You we've seen it writing on the

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<v Speaker 1>war from the beginning with this situation, how a majority

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<v Speaker 1>of white America has supported this man and embrastim well,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me. He had he had a go fund

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<v Speaker 1>me that raised how much money, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot. There was a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>So you understand I'm saying, and you won't see what left.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been a black man, they would have threw

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<v Speaker 1>him under the jail go fund me. They would have

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<v Speaker 1>funded his ass into jail, and he would have still

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<v Speaker 1>been in jailed. You probably would have got killed because

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<v Speaker 1>he would have never made it back home at all anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the day, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we're dealing with, and once again another attrocity man.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, let's just hope again. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>this episode airs, Um, I hope that the closing arguments

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<v Speaker 1>are finished and that the jury has made a decision

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<v Speaker 1>to convict Um Kyle Rittenhouse of murder. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what all his charges are, but I know he

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't walk free Um. And I think his mother should

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<v Speaker 1>also face some charges because she had her son in

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<v Speaker 1>the car bringing him across state lines with weapons that

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<v Speaker 1>she knew he was not supposed to have and then

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<v Speaker 1>he goes out and kills Now in our situation, right,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, if you put your child in the

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<v Speaker 1>school that is outside the school district, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>five years. Like our sister Crystal Mason. Um, it's something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's someone that that was accountable for her actions right

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<v Speaker 1>related to her child going to school somewhere that she

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<v Speaker 1>should not have gone and in fact, her father lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the district. Right, you have situations where because of

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<v Speaker 1>a child's truancy, parents are picked up and arrested. I

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<v Speaker 1>just would love to see the numbers. Some people will argue, old,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Tamika, you know it happens to everybody. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just okay, We'll show me the numbers. Show me

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<v Speaker 1>how many white families where their children cut school have

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<v Speaker 1>been arrested for the truancy of their child. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. If it's if it compares. Maybe I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think so. I don't think so. Even man,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at my my case. You know, I got

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<v Speaker 1>convicted of a gun that I never had, that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else found, never seen. I got convicted of a weapons

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<v Speaker 1>and sentenced to to two to four years for a

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<v Speaker 1>weapon that was never found or even seen ever anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years we were talking about two to four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was part. That was you know, there was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the charges, but the robbery charges superseded that because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the highest count. So it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>four to eight, and then it was three, three to six,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then under the underneath charges with weapons possessions

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<v Speaker 1>two to four years for weapons possession and it's two

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<v Speaker 1>to four. So the highest counts they add those two together,

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<v Speaker 1>the three to six and for the eight to get

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<v Speaker 1>my sentence to hide. The lower counts were superseded, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was sentenced to two to four years for weapons

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<v Speaker 1>possession that never never had and nobody ever saw, never anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's kind of that. Well, you don't see not

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<v Speaker 1>understanding you have to understand the legal system, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure going into it you had no idea about this

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<v Speaker 1>and this layer and that and the judge and all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that happen with your attorney. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that in in in in these situations, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like to your point that they that white people

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<v Speaker 1>have a complexion for protection, Like you said, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's That's that's my thought. But tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what this sweatshirt means that you have on to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It means, it means fuck it. If you don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't you know, if you've got a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with me, fuck you, fuck it, fuck you, fuck it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, anybody, So everybody that has

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with you is you put a post s

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<v Speaker 1>up yesterday right that resonated. You know, I'm very stubborn,

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<v Speaker 1>very stubborn, a very prideful, have a lot of ego.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to, you know, my name to be talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to be discredited. I hate somebody allowing me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that I have, certain things that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I take pride. And then you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>post that you put up yesterday just resonated with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanna what did it say? It's said this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really just made me think, you know, after

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<v Speaker 1>you always say it, you know, I'm I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard headed. I don't listen to ship most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'd be like, man, I don't do what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, and I'm gonna do what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do most of the time. But when you said

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped beating with people when I realized they felt

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<v Speaker 1>important being an enemy. That was like the realest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that there are people who just you acknowledging

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<v Speaker 1>them as an adversary, not even saying their name, but

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<v Speaker 1>just the fact that they feel that you acknowledge them

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who is even equal to be adversary or

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<v Speaker 1>accounter anything to what is that you do gives them

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<v Speaker 1>some level of power. And I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, I've done, I've exhausted. I've done whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do in anybody that's not on my

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<v Speaker 1>my own wavelength, that's not about progression, that's not doing

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<v Speaker 1>any work that's I can't benefit from, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>allow to have space in my mind, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm turning over a new leaf. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in discourse with people that I don't even deserve discourse,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm not engaging in anything with somebody that's

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<v Speaker 1>not helping me grow or I'm not helping grow. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this shirt symbolizes where I'm at, fucking fuck you,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck it, you know. And my hat my new hat honorable,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's that's what it is. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>I am. So this represents my whole moved right now,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you because I'm honorable. Listen, I have nothing to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and today the course protect black people. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my mind. Well, I put this on today

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<v Speaker 1>because when I woke up, I realized then with two

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<v Speaker 1>trials happening in two different places across this damn country,

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<v Speaker 1>and both of them are incredibly painful for black people

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<v Speaker 1>in the Kyle ritten House matter. And someone said this

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Reverend Stephen Green said today, And it really

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<v Speaker 1>struck me when I said, I don't know that people

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<v Speaker 1>will respond and be as upset and and impacted by

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Rittenhouse being um exonerated as other situations that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen where people really have been emotional and hurt, and

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<v Speaker 1>we has impacted especially white people, to see how bad

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<v Speaker 1>it is because his victims were white, right, And Stephen's

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<v Speaker 1>response to me was the original victim, he didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Rittenhouses, but the original victim was Jacob Blake, a

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<v Speaker 1>black man who was shot and paralyzed in Kenosha. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is what precipitated the response, the outrage that bought

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Rittenhouse to that town. Why he killed other people

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<v Speaker 1>who were there protecting black lives. The other situation is

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<v Speaker 1>in Brunswick, New Brunswick, Georgia, where a mother has to

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<v Speaker 1>sit and listen to people talking about all this other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff except the fact that these men, the McMichael's, were

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<v Speaker 1>not and plus their other whatever the other guy's name is.

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<v Speaker 1>They were not the police, They were not in any

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<v Speaker 1>way authorized, They were not the owners of the home.

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<v Speaker 1>They were in no way authorized to take their funky asses,

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<v Speaker 1>their racists, uh, evil callous asses out there to hunt

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<v Speaker 1>down a man who they they saw him, They saw him,

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<v Speaker 1>they saw a mod are very going in that house

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<v Speaker 1>checking it out, and and and and similar to George Zimmerman,

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<v Speaker 1>hunting black people is a sport to some white folks,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly to some white men. Putting black people's lives in

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<v Speaker 1>danger with their tears is a specific thing that white

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<v Speaker 1>women do, some white women, too many of them. But

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<v Speaker 1>hunting negroes, President Biden, hunting negroes is something that white

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<v Speaker 1>men specifically get off on. And so when they saw Ahmad,

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<v Speaker 1>they said he didn't know, he was oblivious, believing that

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<v Speaker 1>he could run in America and just dream about this

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<v Speaker 1>new project, this new house, looking at it coming together

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<v Speaker 1>the same way that white people were able, kids were

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<v Speaker 1>able to dream going in that house over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>They had the footage to show it. But they saw

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<v Speaker 1>a black boy, healthy, running and they love it. It

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<v Speaker 1>literally brings them to goddamn or gas to see a

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<v Speaker 1>black attractive strong man and they cannot keep their nasty,

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<v Speaker 1>filthy hands off of black men, and so they hunted

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<v Speaker 1>him down. And here's a black woman having to sit

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<v Speaker 1>there and listen and then further watch the video that

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<v Speaker 1>if it had not the people all Shaun King this

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<v Speaker 1>and leave married that, guess what if it had not,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been for the work that Shaun King lead married,

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<v Speaker 1>and or Chris Stewart and others, all of these attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>and and activists and advocates that got together and kept

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<v Speaker 1>pressure in the system, kept pressure in the system, kept

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<v Speaker 1>bringing us up to speed and keeping us in the loop,

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<v Speaker 1>if it were not for the work that they did.

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<v Speaker 1>When first of all, they created out of what they believed,

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<v Speaker 1>having some visuals to bring us to the moment. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the video comes out and we see Ahmad are

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<v Speaker 1>Very being hunted and then blown away. Damn there, shot

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<v Speaker 1>to death. The mother sitting there watching that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>too many of us that are trying to go to work,

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<v Speaker 1>go to travel, do this, do that, all this other

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<v Speaker 1>ship And meanwhile, in the back of our minds, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that black people are not protected. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>today I wore this. I guess that's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>my thought of the day. I had other things because

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask they didn't want the weapons conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>They were they were, they were, they were uh lifting

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons charge. And as they were talking about late

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<v Speaker 1>r during the prosecutors closing statements, he was he mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons again and it caused more dialogue in the

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<v Speaker 1>court that the judge had to speak to about whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was okay for the weapon to even be mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Right, And so in the midst of this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation the judges him and in Han can't get his

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<v Speaker 1>words out straight and our and and it seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>me that he was prepared in his mind to protect

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Rittenhouse. That's how it's been throughout this entire trial,

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the whole process. And I was thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>the white people have like a phone, a back phone

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<v Speaker 1>that they call each other on, Like how do they

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<v Speaker 1>transmit the message that we protect them. There's no other messages.

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<v Speaker 1>They see a white boy walk into the room and

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<v Speaker 1>they empathize, right, the same empathy and the same you know,

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<v Speaker 1>grace that we want them to give our children and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that we want to give young black kids that

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<v Speaker 1>come from nothing, that commit crimes that they believe or

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<v Speaker 1>or detrimental, heinous, and we want we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be put on death rowd for crimes that you commit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, very young, and we don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>have life imprisonment, and we want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>have opportunities after these things. They look at their own

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<v Speaker 1>people as human beings. They don't look at us that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not about there's no sign to sign. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that white boy walking here? And we we And it

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<v Speaker 1>was against some ship that the niggers had going on anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It was based on some nigger that we already said

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<v Speaker 1>he shouldn't those people shouldn't have been out there protesting

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<v Speaker 1>for that nigga anyway. So those are nigger lovers, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make sure that the man who protect the

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<v Speaker 1>nigger lovers is safe and he's and he's protected because

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<v Speaker 1>he's the man that protect the nigga or the man

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<v Speaker 1>who was willing to kill was killed. The man who

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<v Speaker 1>killed the nigga lovers is protecting, so you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what it comes down to it and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not hard, and people want to act like that

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<v Speaker 1>those ain't the facts and that's not the reality, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it sure is, and you know, and it's in

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<v Speaker 1>this same scenario place over every time it does. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the larger question that we will not get

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<v Speaker 1>into today because we've got too incredible guests that we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to bring on talking about mental health and still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to deal with this thing. And we got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep going there, man, we gotta keep getting into the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of this mental health crisis. Um. And then as

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<v Speaker 1>we go into as the holidays, you know, people getting

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<v Speaker 1>they're starting to spend that money, spend that money. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like what they say that corporations is like nigger

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<v Speaker 1>dance dance, dance, dance dance, bring that money in. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be talking about that with two incredible people,

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<v Speaker 1>one being Precious of R. C. Lea, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>licensed psychotherapist, and then the other being Shakira Green, who

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<v Speaker 1>is a financial activist and so with those two coming on,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to keep it short even though I'm running

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth, But it just begs the question, do we

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<v Speaker 1>as black people have a bad phone? You know, do

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<v Speaker 1>we have a bad phone to call one another and

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm with you? You know, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to live in the world mice where just

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<v Speaker 1>because a person is black, they could do anything, they

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<v Speaker 1>could kill innocent people. And I support that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also being very honest and saying that I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 1>us always being the ones that have to do right,

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<v Speaker 1>that have to be right, and yet we are up

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<v Speaker 1>against a diabolical enemy that doesn't have the same moral compense.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know, you know. So that's just yes, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's a very it's a very um

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<v Speaker 1>convoluted and fucked up place to be right. You you

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<v Speaker 1>want justice, but you watch your people experience never get

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<v Speaker 1>justice for so long that you even start to root

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<v Speaker 1>for the villain, you know, you start to root for

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<v Speaker 1>things that you normally you probably you think they should

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<v Speaker 1>be held accountable, but you like any nobody else being

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<v Speaker 1>held accountable, No like you. I want to see us.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see us beat the system once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and it's it's a fund up, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>place to be in where that's the mindset that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to have, or we we not really have to,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like we have to have. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the this whole the whole theory of justice, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a theory for me right now. And it's sad. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so Now another friend joins us on the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked earlier today about this UM fire brand, brilliant young

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<v Speaker 1>woman that I can't to know through BBM, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the Bond Brand Management Agency where LaToya Bond manages both

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<v Speaker 1>of us, me more so than you because you are unmanageable, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's for a different days conversation. And UM, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great things about having small agencies that

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<v Speaker 1>specifically focus on black folks UM and understanding all the

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<v Speaker 1>issues that we have within us, is having an agency

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<v Speaker 1>that knows that it's not just pr it's not just UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know of marketing and all the work that has

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<v Speaker 1>to get done, but it's also having people around who

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<v Speaker 1>tap into the spiritual realm, who tap into the mental

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<v Speaker 1>health realm. And Precious has been that and I always

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<v Speaker 1>am so afraid to say her name, but as she

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<v Speaker 1>would say, you always, I always get it right. So

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<v Speaker 1>precious of work, Leia again, a friend of ours, of

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<v Speaker 1>friends to street politicians, and I'm so happy to have

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<v Speaker 1>this young woman on and just to re iterate who

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<v Speaker 1>she is and her great great accomplishes accomplishments. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a licensed psychotherapist, she is an author, and she is

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<v Speaker 1>a mental health advocate and activists in her own right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Precious, thank you so much for joining the street

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<v Speaker 1>politicians today. Thank you you guys for having me. I

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<v Speaker 1>am thoroughly enjoying the work that you guys are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>The commentary, you guys are spot on every time I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the back whooping y'all on and everything, So we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. Man. So how's it been going? Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing right now? What have you been

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on? So, as you guys may know, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in the mental health industry for quite some

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<v Speaker 1>time now, for well over ten years, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>out with a group practice and several years ago I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to open my own practice, Modern Therapy now, which

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<v Speaker 1>we've been open now and thriving for about four years.

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<v Speaker 1>And my intention behind that was because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>tailor make my approaches to the black and brown community.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as a psychotherapist, traditionally, you're really trained to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, a blank slate, right, don't say too much,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be too much, don't take up too much space

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<v Speaker 1>in the room. But as you guys may know, that

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<v Speaker 1>really marginalizes a lot of people. You can't tell many

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<v Speaker 1>people about their deep seated truths if they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of who you are. So I decided I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to take a different approach. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be transparent, I was gonna be my whole self. I

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<v Speaker 1>was wanting to be you know all of the hay

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<v Speaker 1>girl hay as well as you know, the clinical jargon

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<v Speaker 1>and so on and so forth. So right now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really thriving with working with a lot of black and

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<v Speaker 1>brown individuals and it's been doing great. Yeah, So what

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<v Speaker 1>you just decided to go to school to be a psychotherapist?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was the process? What's the journey towards that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there may be other people out here who were like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I think I should be doing, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the thing that comes up in you that

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<v Speaker 1>says this is the field that I should be in,

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<v Speaker 1>and just as a point of reference in Little f

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<v Speaker 1>Y I. As I mentioned earlier in the show, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glued to the TV because the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I haven't running. Usually we don't, but today

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<v Speaker 1>is a day that I think it's important for us

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<v Speaker 1>all to be tuned in. So excuse me for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a distraction, hopefully, but I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>say that absolutely, I totally understand. I've been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>checking in here and there in between sessions as well. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I think of one of those rare

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<v Speaker 1>stories where I really did set out to impact individuals

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<v Speaker 1>in some kind of way. I didn't really know what

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<v Speaker 1>to call it early on, but I knew that was

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<v Speaker 1>really interested and intrigued by human behavior and all of

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>people's complexities, you know what I mean. I've seen mental

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<v Speaker 1>health concerns throughout my family. I've been personally impacted by it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know many people have, UM and I just noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that I had a way with connecting with people and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to support them, UM and help them move

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<v Speaker 1>towards their goals. UM. Right now, I've taken a special

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<v Speaker 1>interest in work life balance. Um, I've been I've had

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<v Speaker 1>so many conversations with women in particular, but you know,

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>women and men alike where the greatest strain is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to be everything that they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be for others, and um, just finding that it's

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<v Speaker 1>the expectation itself that really throws a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>off off balance. Uh So, really approaching work life balance

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<v Speaker 1>from a place of let's, you know, understand what our

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<v Speaker 1>individual needs and strengths are and then help that match

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<v Speaker 1>our the way we're experiencing the world. Mm hmm. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy, because I think that's one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do, is just have a work life balance.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, especially when you're trying to be successful, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you um embarking on new endeavors, when you're a

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<v Speaker 1>creative person, you know, when you're entrepreneur, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you what is the key? Like, give us some keys

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<v Speaker 1>that you think it is to balance and work in

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<v Speaker 1>life and being comfortable and not driving yourself crazy and

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 1>working yourself to death. I think the first thing is

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<v Speaker 1>just to shift your ideology about what balance is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, balance does not mean equal a lot

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 1>of times, we expect ourselves to be to give to

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<v Speaker 1>every you know, person in our life, every area of

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<v Speaker 1>our life, in the same way, at the same level,

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<v Speaker 1>with the same level of energy, always and forever, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just an unrealistic expectation. We're not the same person

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<v Speaker 1>every single day. Our needs shift from day to day,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just not humanly possible to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>give everything to everything all at once. Um. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>well known fact that we actually do not multitask. You know,

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:30.639
<v Speaker 1>we put we end up putting a lot of strain

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<v Speaker 1>on ourselves when we're trying to shift from one task

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<v Speaker 1>to the other. So really scaling back on this idea

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that multitasking is the ideal, that you know, losing sleep

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 1>is the ideal, That pushing through and keeping it moving

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is the ideal ideal. Excuse me, um, I've been on

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>social media for years now saying that keeping moving culture

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>is toxic, especially to the black and brown community. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have this beliefs of stuff that tells

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<v Speaker 1>us that if we're experiencing things like anxiety and depression,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's actually a sign of failure and weakness. So

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we have to continue to press up against that stigma, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and shift our understanding of those wellness features being inclusive

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>of our in our path towards success. I saw on

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>our friend killing Mike's page uh something that he posted

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<v Speaker 1>that the night I saw it, it resonated, But the

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<v Speaker 1>next day I had a little frustration happened, which made

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<v Speaker 1>it even more important. He said, I tried my best

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<v Speaker 1>and if that's not good enough, fuck it then, right?

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 1>And I was like that when I saw it the

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>first time, I was like yeah, But then I thought

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<v Speaker 1>about it and I said, we especially just all of

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<v Speaker 1>us in general, but especially as women, we try so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering if as we're getting older does it

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that it is helpful to the mental

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<v Speaker 1>psyche to like stop trying with certain things, or is

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>letting go a form of failure? Like how should we

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>process that when we feel like we've tried too much? Right?

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that letting go is a part of wellness

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Um. I think that we all have a

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>particular relationship with control, and when we are operating within

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>this sense of control that says that we are supposed

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to be able to manage and impact change on everything

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>around us. That is actually more debilitating to our mental

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>health than anything else. Sometimes acceptance is the best way

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>to fall into balance, just accepting the fact that the

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 1>door did close, that the answer was no, so that

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you can pivot and you can shift. I'm not telling

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>people to stop. I'm just telling them that sometimes you

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>have to accept that that may not be what's for you.

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that can create a sense of resolve.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have to understand again, back to your ideology,

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>your basic fundamental belief system about how life works in

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>general has to be one that says that I understand that,

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, my path is going to be created both

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>through the cop collaboration of you know, me wanting things

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and me being able to self propel and self motivate

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and be ambitious, but also it's going to be a

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>path that is sown into you know, just the universe

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and things that are unseen, things that are unknown, things

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that you know, we don't have ultimate and complete control over. Yeah,

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't have ultimate and complete control over. Lately, a

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>number of people I love, including my son, has told

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>me that I have to work on trying to control

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>every situation, and that is you know, it's hard to

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>hear that because you feel like you're doing everything out

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of a good place, like trying to make sure that

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>things are running and moving. But sometimes, you know, I

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>guess you do have to listen to people when they're

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>basically telling you that instead of been feeling like love,

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it feels like control. Absolutely. I think that what ends

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>up happening is, you know, a lot of our relationship

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>with control is really born out of a previous trauma.

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, you have um you know, been exposed to

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>environments where there was a lack of control. There was

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of chaos and you didn't really know what

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the next moment or the next day was gonna bring.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes what ends up happening is that you need everything

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to be in control, right, So, you know, I think

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>it there's a little bit of a miss uh perception

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>there because people will take that as you're being controlling,

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>But what you're really looking for is everything to be stable,

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>everything to be accounted for. You want to know where

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>everything is, what's going on, what your role is in things,

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and that delivers a sense of safety, um and security

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to you. But you know, what I oftentimes tell my

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>clients is that everything that's functional isn't sustainable. Right, So,

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at one point in life that may have worked for you,

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, it yielded positive you know results,

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>You are able to progress and gain success by operating

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the way that you operate. However, you know, trying to

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>control absolutely everything again is ultimately debilitating to your psyche.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>So there will come this eventual moment where you can't

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>continue to move forward like that. It starts to you know,

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>put too much strain on your body, too much strain

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>on your mind space, too much strain on your relationships.

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Even so, we have to dial it back when we

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>have to concede to you know, what is or what

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>isn't and then what we can control control, what the

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>things that we can have impact on. Mm hmm. That's

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>so prolific right there. You know, I find myself going

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>through the same thing. Like we all want to control,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>especially you know, especially in the work that we do.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>We want to be able to control our situations. We

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to constantly say that we could

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>do the work. And sometimes it gets it gets overwhelming,

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially dealing with social media in this world

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>that we live in, where it always feels like you're

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>not doing enough, you know, it always feels like it's

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.239
<v Speaker 1>more to do, and it's more to do and you

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>could be doing I find myself going through the constantly

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not doing enough, I'm not doing enough. I

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>should be doing this, I should be doing this, and

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>then trying to take on all these things by yourself.

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's because I think for me, it's because I've

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>always I've been used to doing things by myself. I've

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>been used to. If I don't really do the things,

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>if I don't put all of these things in to it,

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not gonna happen. So you know, it's hard.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>It's hard, you know, to let go work. It's hard

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to ease. Like to me, it's been saying, Yo, we

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>need to take a read. People need to take a vacation.

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I need doing nothing else to after Christmas, and I'll

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>be and me hearing that, it's like, what would you mean?

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a old you know, you know, And I guess

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>for me being imprisoned come has a lot to do

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>with it, right, losing seven years of your life and

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>not being able to do anything for those days that

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do things and watching life past and

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>watching people that I was would progress to certain levels

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and then feeling like I was stagnated and I feel

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like I have to make up time. But it's impossible

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>for you to make up anything. You just can only

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>move at the pace and that and deal with the

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>time that you have now. Yeah, absolutely, And that's exactly

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>what I mean by expectations. You know, you're already successful.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>You you're already you know, putting things in motion. Things

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>are going to happen. And I'm not saying to, you know,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>take the pressure off of the situation at all. I'm

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>just saying that it's the concept of that mission in

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>your head. You know, you're hyper present with the reality

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that you lost time, you know. But at the same time,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>one could say that you're right on page, you know,

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>because one could say that, you know, at a different time,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, things that you're manifesting today may have not manifested,

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's what I'm saying about there. The

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>ballot starts with your mindspace first, where you can say

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that you know, yes, this is the this was not

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the course that I necessarily wanted to take. And also

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I recognize how it's put put me in position for

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>certain things to happen. So I'm going to you know,

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>apply the pressure. But I'm also not going to guilt myself.

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna shave myself for what has come to

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>pass already. Let's thank you. I gotta, I gotta, I

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta take much church to us. I'm that part, you know.

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But we're taking a lot of stuff very serious, and

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to be serious about. You know, often

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.719
<v Speaker 1>times say that we wake up to be oppressed, we

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>wake up to be attacked, we wake up to be invalidated.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>You know ta maka mention, the call writtenhouse um trial

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>happening right now, that's abrasive. You know what I mean

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to me, that's injurious. When I watch that, it injures

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>my spirit. It it impacts me, right. So we're collecting

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>all of that every single day just by way of

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>our awareness. We scroll on social media and you know,

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.439
<v Speaker 1>there's someone living lavish that makes us feel insecure. There's

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>someone getting murder that makes us feel at risk. There's

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>someone talking about COVID that makes us feel completely out

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of control and susceptible to something that you know, we

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>we can't even tell which direction is coming from. So

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>at the end of at the basis of anything, just

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>has to be wellness. We have to create a regiment

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to where we're tending to our mind space on a

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>regular basis. Listen, I know, I know you gotta go. Oh,

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, my sign. I want to ask one more

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>things before. So you know, I was just hearing in

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 1>the New today something that happened with La La where

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>she has some hard complications and some people are saying

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it's attributed to stress and things of that nature. Like

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>what warning signs because I don't know. I'm so used

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to just being on a hundred, I'm so used to moving,

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't take the time to to

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>to even acknowledge when I'm when I'm birthed out, I

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>don't even know how to feel. I know i'd be tired,

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>so let me just get some rest. After the rest,

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm back at it. So, like, are there warning signs

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and things that we should just look for and notice

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that tells us like you're burning yourself out, you might

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>need to just relax and get into a different space. Yeah,

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that you asked that question. And let's

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>send some healing and loving energy towards lalla Um for

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>her recovery. But stress is and has always been the

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>number one killer. You know. We hear that, and I

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>feel like we're a little dismissive to that fact. But

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.760
<v Speaker 1>there's so much that we can be doing to counter

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the effects of stress um as far as you know.

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that you said that was really

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>vital to your answer actually was that you don't take

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the time out, you know, And that's why I'm often

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I promote meditation and mindfulness so much, because it's really

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the stillness that we need so that our psyche can

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>catch up to everything that we've been enduring all along.

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, you just have to let yourself be still.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>All of the warning signs are there for you. You know,

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>all of the signals. Your body is so communicative all

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 1>of the time. It's telling you what's going on. Those

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>little strains and pains in the back of our neck.

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, the headache that you have for two days.

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, your stomach is upset, your your your limbs

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 1>are aching, your your fingers, your toes, everything is is

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>in pain. That is the warning sign to let you

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>know that your body is in distress and to understand

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 1>that you at least seem just stand still long enough

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to make the connections and understand what's going on. UM.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I will say this that sleep is a non negotiable. UM.

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Something that is well known in my field is that

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>sleep alone can you know, induce you into psychosis. It

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>can induce you into depression, it can induce you into anxiety.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 1>The first thing that we do when someone comes into

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the hospital is give them a sleep aid, and the

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 1>next day when they wake up, almost about of their

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>symptoms have decreased. So, UM, being able to have a

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>good sleep regiment, being able to have a balanced diet diet,

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>being able to have an exercise regiment. You know, just

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>getting those endorphins in can really impact how stress is

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 1>impacting you. So just those fundamentals first, I know you

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>have to go and and sleep is a non negotiable,

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>which is something that I don't get enough of, so

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I know you know, UM, And the other day, uh,

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>LaToya says to me, you text late and early. I

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>just can't figure out, like, at what point does the

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 1>sleep happen? You know what, I do sleep sometimes, But anyway, UM,

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the my last thing for you is do therapists have

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it all together? Like if you're a therapist, psycho therapist.

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>You're a psychiologist. Do y'all have it all? Absolutely not.

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Therapists are people too. And that's another thing that you know,

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>was was what I wanted to denote, what I created

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the modern therapist persona. I wanted people to see me

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>being a regular, magular person that has issues. I say

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 1>this field to my clients when I have a consultation,

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I said, she got issues too. She is not here

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to be the example of how to be perfect. She's

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>here to be the example of someone who wakes up

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>every day for challenges and uses the same skills and

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>tools that she you know, imparts to you to make

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>sure that she can have a balance of life and

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>she could wake up for the next day thereafter. You know,

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>when I have a client come in, I say, I'm

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.280
<v Speaker 1>not the expert in the room. You're the expert on you.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>You bring what you have. I know human behavior, I

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 1>know life, I know you know being a human and

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out your psyche and we're gonna put

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that together, and we're gonna figure it out together. And

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>so absolutely not well, because I ain't crazy. You know,

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>at least you we all got to lose here, No,

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>we all got some stuff. Thank you so much, precious,

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you so much. And um, you know, the

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>knowledge that you're imparting on us that we want to

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>share with the broader audience is something that should just

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>be uplifted every second of the day. Like every space

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you turn to they should be places to get little

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>nuggets about how to manage just our lives because there's

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>so much that's controllable and so much that is not, um,

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that's happening to us every minute of the day. And

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're a parent, if you work in the world,

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>especially in my p you know this is my thing out.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>You didn't say this, I am saying it. If you

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>work around white people every a you stressed out. If

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you're a person of color, absolutely, because it's a very

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>difficult place to try to manage all the microaggressions, all

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the misunderstandings, you know, trying not to speak too loud,

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>be too threatening, um. And you know, and also dealing

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>with the injustice of just trying to climb ladders and

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing people that are not even as good as you

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 1>be able to rise above you. That's a lot. And

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, we we do find ourselves working, working ourselves

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to death, literally working ourselves to death, trying to be

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>as good, trying to be as noticed, trying to be

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>as fly you know, trying to just because you gotta

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:45.359
<v Speaker 1>be ten times flyer in order to compete with us.

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 1>That's the stronger and and whatever I was gonna saying longer,

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's for a different show. So for today,

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much pressures a lood. Precious, why today today?

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Just because I said, you always get it right? That's it.

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It messed you all up. I love you so much,

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>thank you for thank you so much for having me.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Your skin is looking beautiful. Thank you than that melon

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and popping. I appreciate you guys so much. Have a

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>good day day. That's how we own it. That's how

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>we owned it. Precious is just so dope, man. She

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>she has a energy and you and you can realize

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>certain people just have callings on their life, right like

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>when when I used to when you know, when I

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>work with Precious and she calls and we got to communicate.

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 1>She's just so easy to talk to, right. She just

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>seems like she's just so serene. She has this energy

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that makes you just feel comfortable. So when all of

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>these things that she do these allergies, knowlogists, they really

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>fit her, man, So it's it's dope just hearing that

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and her being able to actually confirm some of the

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>things that we know about our own selves. You know.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to mental health and meditation

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and just having someone who psychoanalyzes you, I think what

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>they actually do is make you realize things that you

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>already know. I think that's what the good ones do.

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>M h Yeah, No, I agree with you a hundred

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>percent about that. I think sometimes when we hear things

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>about ourselves, it hurts because you think that, you know, wow,

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that I was doing this, So I

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>was presenting myself in a certain way to people. But

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>having the safe space of a therapist to try to

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>help work through what it means and and you know,

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and and being in a space where it's not contentious

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but rather it's supportive and reassuring is important. And that's

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>what Precious is. She's the type of person that could

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>take well, you know, I'm and and in fact, my

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>relationship were Precious becomes as strong as it ever has been.

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and nineteen, when I became addicted to pain, pills.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>That's when she and I got to be really close

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>because I saw the addiction as my weakness, as the

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 1>worst place that I've ever been in my life, and

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>not not to say it's not, you know, it doesn't

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>mean that it's not. But I saw it as being

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>not the end of me, but I saw it as

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>being like a real tell tale sign that I wasn't

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the person I believed. And she took it and reaffirmed

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>me and really walked me through all the steps that

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>led to that moment that were beyond the crisis that

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>out the public crisis that I was going through, but

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>even things from when I was younger, from moments in

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.879
<v Speaker 1>my life when I felt not included, not good enough,

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>when I felt like I wasn't doing whatever my family

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>needed me to do, or the man that I was with,

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and she was able to show me that

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the breakdown I was having was a culmination of many things.

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And the public terror, if you will, the public moment

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that I had was only like the what do you

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>call it? The top of the rock. It was the

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>top of the rock, you know, And I didn't think

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 1>about that, so I was, oh, my god, how could

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>people do this? To me. It broke me down. And

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>then she was like, yeah, but what about this and

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>that in the third and I was like, wow, I

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of processing to do. So I think,

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, she has a skill set. And and by

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the way, even the psychiatrist that I worked with now,

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>which is different from what um Precious does. Um. This

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>psychiatrist that I'm that I've worked with every day or

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>not every day, I needed every there. But the psychiatrist

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 1>that I work with, you know, he's amazing. And recently

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 1>I was going through something and I called to him,

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:13.839
<v Speaker 1>was like yo, dude, like for real, like just this

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and that and he and he was there for me.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's not the same thing like having a black

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>woman understand other black women. It's not the same thing.

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same thing. Even when I'm speaking to him,

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>he is so firmly clear about what I need to do,

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>so firmly clear, like every other black man that I'm

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>close to, firmly clear. But when speaking to Precious, she's

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>as a black woman is willing to get in my

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>mess and and and whittle around and all of my

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't know, I don't know. So I think

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you might need to therapists in your life. Yeah, I

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta give me one, because you know, I've been trying

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to psychoanalyze myself and be my own therapist for you

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.800
<v Speaker 1>is man, So some I need somebody else to pour into.

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>So I gotta start searching into that professional skills. So now, um,

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the other thing that drives us crazy is what we're

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>going to right. The other thing is our money, you know,

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 1>spending it right, spend it wrong. Uh, you know, holding

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:25.240
<v Speaker 1>it forever, thinking it's gonna somehow another just double itself,

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>triple itself. You know, I know family, I have family members,

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I have an uncle. His money is buried in the

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>yard somewhere, and there are people by the way who's

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>sitting around knowing it's got to be somewhere around, so

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they'll wait. You know, they don't want him to die,

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 1>but if he does, they're gonna tap everything looking for

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>it because they know he's been sitting on his money.

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>That's how he That's just how he is. You know.

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>So people, some people. Everybody has a different relationship with money,

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and it can be very stressful. It can be even

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>not enough, having too much and not knowing what to

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>do with it. All of those things can be very,

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>very stressful. And so today we're gonna be talking to

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>another friend to street politicians, UM, Shaquira Green, who is

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>she calls herself a financial activist, a final activist and

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>good and she's coming right up to talk to us

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 1>about our money because Saira tell me some things about

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>this chiner. That's so. As we mentioned another one of

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.399
<v Speaker 1>our friends joining the show today, this Shaquira Green, who

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>is a financial expert for eighteen years. Over eighteen years

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>she's been in banking and finance. But she's on this

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>show today as the finance activists, the financial activists we need.

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.720
<v Speaker 1>So Shaquira, thanks for coming on. You know you you're

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>my pretty friend. Thank you, Thank you to me to

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>thank you, my son. Thank you so much for having

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>me on today. A conversation that's much needed to have,

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>especially in our community. That's fact. So how do how

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>do we get money? We just want to how we

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>go get rich? What we need to do right now

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to get rich? What we need to do well? The

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>first thing we need to do is begin to shift

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>our mindset. You know, it's how you think about money.

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>How do you view money? Um, money is for me

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 1>an avenue for UM freedom right. UM, it's a it's

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>a It's a tool that we can use to UM

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:40.240
<v Speaker 1>create the business that we're passionate about. UM, travel the world,

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, get experiences, UM, send our children to college,

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that you're passionate about. For me, money

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>is a tool and a vehicle to help you get there, UM,

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 1>to give back to our community, to help other people

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>who are less fortunate. And so I think the first

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>thing we need to do, whether you have money or

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to acquire it, is begin to shift your

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>mindset and evaluate what's your relationship with money. You know,

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>for years, my relationship with money was funny, and so

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I had to be honest about myself. UM. You know, UM,

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>how was I showing up in that relationship? UM? And

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>they started with me taking a look at how was I,

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>how was I raised? And what were some of the

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>things that were installed in me? UM. My grandmother, UM,

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>for instance, I'll take her. You know, she told my

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>mother and my gran my aunt to never move out

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>of the projects because in her mindset, that meant that

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>they would always have a roof over their head if

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>they could live and subsidize living, you know, Um, she

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 1>couldn't fathom her granddaughter probably owning multiple properties. You know,

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember, um, she used to say to us when

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>we was little, when you walk out this house, you

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>represent us. And so that means you always look your best.

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And so in translation, every time I went out and

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>had an interview or a new job or somewhere to go,

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I was running out and I was buying a new outfit.

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Whether I could afforded a not, it didn't matter as

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>long as you look good, because that was what my

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>grandmother taught us, right, And so I begin to just

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of shifting the mindset and think about how am

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I using my money and my lifestyle. If you if

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.879
<v Speaker 1>this pandemic didn't teach us anything, it taught us how

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:19.800
<v Speaker 1>much we were spending frivolously, between brunches and just shopping

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and just being just being outside period is gonna cost you, right, So, UM,

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I always tell people it starts with you shifting your

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 1>mindset and reevaluating your relationship with your money. M So

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>we're so The reason why I thought the financial activist

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>component was so important, and particularly in the context of

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this show, is that we were just talking about working

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>ourselves to death. Um, with our friend Precious, who is

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>a psychotherapist, right, And so I also think we can

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>worry about money as well in a way that's unhealthy,

0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:00.959
<v Speaker 1>either either either worrying about not enough or having much

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and either not knowing what to do with it or

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>worrying about losing it. I find myself hoarding my money,

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and I've learned that that is not the right thing

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to do, because the I r s just loves it.

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like the best thing in the world. People who

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know that when you get money, you should spend

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>some of it, but you got to spend it the

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 1>right way and be because I don't necessarily always know.

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 1>It's so many people in my ear telling me how

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to spend my money. I've got marijuana investors asking me

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to put money there. I've got uh people saying, let's

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>with these houses. I've got people saying do this business

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 1>that thing. My son has ideas everywhere I turned, and

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I also have ideas. So I find myself just being like,

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to hell with it. I'm just gonna hold my money

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.799
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, and hopefully God will come and

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 1>tell me in my ear in the middle of the

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>night what I to do, which is not healthy and

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you're you hit it right on the nail. Money is

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the number one stressor UM that people have. It's also

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the number one reason why folks get divorced. UM. You know,

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>forty six percent of Americans say that they don't have

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>four hundred dollars saved for an emergency. Prior to the

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 1>um pandemic happening, eight percent of Americans was living paycheck

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>to paycheck. God knows, I'm sure that number has uh

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 1>skyrocketed since then. UM. But all of these statistics go

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 1>back and show you why it's important. And the reason

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>why I call myself a financial activist is because I'm

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>on this journey to continuously educate people about their finances,

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 1>particularly in communities where you and I come from, where

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>this information is not taught to us, it's not installed

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in us. You know, my mom was a single parent,

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, raising two children UM in an urban community,

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and so I didn't go to college. I didn't go

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to school with the twols and resources to understand credit,

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to understand UM investing. And as I got into the

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>banking industry, this is where I began to learn it

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 1>became a self aware that wow, this is this is

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 1>not taught to my people. You know, when I went

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:17.399
<v Speaker 1>to school, there was someone on college campus giving out

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 1>applications for a credit card. And that's how I got

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 1>my first credit card, which was discovered, and boy did

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I discover. I discovered everything got shouldn't have done. I

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 1>went straight to the Gucci store. I only think I

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>had enough for the bag. But those are some experiences

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>that I know many people in our audience could relate

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to of just not being taught the knowledge from home.

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:40.879
<v Speaker 1>And this is why I think it's important that now

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I love it that everyone wants to have the conversation

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.240
<v Speaker 1>so to you, and all those things that you mentioned

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>are great things to invest in. You just have to

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 1>figure out what works best for you and what's in

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>your risk tolerance. What's in your risk tolerance. I can't

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>lose nothing, but jorganed me a short thing because I

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 1>can't risk nothing at all. But you know what the

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>old saying, scared money don't make no money. So you

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.360
<v Speaker 1>do have to be willing to do some type of investing.

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about it right. Like for me, the

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I always promote is um homeownership. I

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>think that for the average person in America. Homeownership is

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the eassiest way to start building wealth and to build

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a legacy. Um. I'm an I'm an investor, real estate investor,

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:32.279
<v Speaker 1>and I mean there's multiple ways that you could do it. Um.

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm super conservative like you, my son. So I get it.

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to lose any money that I need

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to sleep good at night with some of my investments. Um.

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But homeownership is a way that you can get in.

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Your home is going to appreciate. It's going to build value,

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>cash value that you can pull out and you can

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, purchase other properties or start that business that

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you want. Um. So I always say, go sit down

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>with a financial advisor, talk about homeownership. How could you

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 1>get into it? So many different programs that will all

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you to get in there, to put three and a

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 1>half percent down, five percent down, there's so many different

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 1>vehicles out there. Just got to do the homework in

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the research. I got to do the homework in the research,

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:15.239
<v Speaker 1>my son. That's what we've been saying. We've been, you know,

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>we've been as an organization, we've been looking into a

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of different you know, ventures that we want to

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:23.959
<v Speaker 1>tackle into. I've been looking we all been coming back

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to the table, Hey, we should probably do this this,

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>so you know, it's it's it's a process. But I

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 1>think we're moving in the right direction, you know, and

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 1>some things that we want to get into. So we're

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 1>we're forty plus, so we we were out the game.

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 1>It's too old, Like should we have been doing it

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:45.160
<v Speaker 1>so much earlier that now we're so far behind we

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>can't catch up? Like, these are things that people really

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>do feel. Absolutely, it's never too late to get in

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the game. Of course, if you can get in there earlier,

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>please There's twenty of times I'm like, I wish that

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I started investing when I was in my twenties, but

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I didn't have the knowledge. So when you

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>know better, you do better. But to that person that

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:09.359
<v Speaker 1>feels discouraged, that feels like I'm I'm too old, or

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't get in or I don't make

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 1>enough money, it's never too late to get into the

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 1>game and start investing. Another thing I think we need

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to think about is how how do we leverage our

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 1>credit Our credit goals and our savings goals need to

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:25.839
<v Speaker 1>be aligned. Let me give you a perfect example. These

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 1>are basic tips that the average person can imply. I

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 1>pay everything every month on my credit card. At the

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 1>end of the month, I paid the credit card off

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>before the twenty eight day. The reason why I do

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that is I accumulate points, and then the points allow

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 1>me to offset my gas expense. I'll go get gift cards,

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll redeem my points for gift cards, and then I'll

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that will offset my gas expense. Or if I'm traveling,

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that's how I'll compa airline ticket or a hotel room. UM.

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:01.319
<v Speaker 1>When I pay my Verizon bill with my a card, UM,

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:04.879
<v Speaker 1>it allows me to not have cell phone insurance, which

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm saving forty five dollars a month by avoiding paying

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>revising fifteen dollars per line. I have a line for

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>me and both of my daughters. But if you pay

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 1>with your credit card, your credit card gives you cellphone

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>insurance and you're allowed to put two claims a month.

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>These are little tips that people don't know and don't leverage. Also,

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of folks that have children that are

0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>going to college. Right if you have a child and

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you really aren't prepared to pay for college, if you

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>have good credit, you can put them on one of

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>your credit cards as an authorized signer and have that

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>child at age sixteen to eighteen start to build up

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.000
<v Speaker 1>some credit so when they go to college and they

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:42.479
<v Speaker 1>fill out applications, they now can qualify for the best

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>student loans or get the best interest rates. So again,

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>small you use your credit card. It's like everything I learned,

0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it's up in the air whenever I talk to financial

0:57:56.160 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>experts because and I'm doing it now now, I am

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:07.120
<v Speaker 1>using my my, my, my, um. My finance manager is

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 1>so desperate for me to use the credit card for everything.

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Yet my relationship with my credit card is so scary

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>because I have I was proud of the fact that

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 1>if I don't have the cash, I'm not gonna buy it.

0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Like that was my mindset. And y'all are saying something

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 1>completely different, completely different, completely different, and pay the whole

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:37.920
<v Speaker 1>card off before the So yeah, so full disclaimer, because

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 1>this isn't for everybody. You have to be organized and

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to be disciplined. You want to pay that

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 1>bill off within the twenty eight days so that you

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 1>do not assess any interests. You know. So I'm paying

0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing off, but I could afford that and

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm also structured and organized with the financial calendar, you

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>know which every week I'm analyzing my finances and I'm

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 1>going on line checking my online banking right and I

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>could be anywhere whether I'm traveling. I get alerts on

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>my phone. So it's a very or. You have to

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 1>be disciplined and organizing, structured. But I paid the whole

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>bill off. I don't accrue any interest, but I get

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the points, and the points allow me. Like I said,

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>if you, if you live paycheck to paycheck, that person's

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 1>mindset is how can I save My bills? Are my

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 1>bills and what I make is what I make, So

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to find creative other ways to save money.

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>So now you can redeem those points. How much do

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you spend on gas? At least a hundred and fifty

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 1>dollars a month the average person. So now those gift

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 1>cards pay your gas. Now you didn't talk. You saved

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 1>yourself a hundred and fifty dollars. Put that away every

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 1>month and start saving. So again I'm thinking white people

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>know about this stuff. Of course, I met a lady

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:50.560
<v Speaker 1>on a plane. We were I want my way to

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Costa Rica, and they were celebrating your twentieth year anniversary.

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 1>It was she, her husband, her mother in law, and

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 1>three children, and she told me she paid five d

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 1>hollars for that trip. I said, well, how did you

1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:05.480
<v Speaker 1>do that? By utilizing her points, she was able to

1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 1>comp all the airline tickets and get a major discount

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:11.800
<v Speaker 1>on the hotel that she was standing. One more thing,

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing on you. This is my interview because

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<v Speaker 1>you're my friend, and I'm just I have one point

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<v Speaker 1>five million miles one airline, and I not. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>pay me to use my mouse. You can't like you.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be like, I'm gonna give you cash if

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you would use those mouths. I will not use them.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody tells me I'm crazy. I have another colleague that

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I worked with that has two point three million miles

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<v Speaker 1>and he feels the same way. Scanty blues to use

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth But other people just be using their mouths,

1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:57.000
<v Speaker 1>just flipping them. And what are you here? What are

1:00:57.000 --> 1:01:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you afraid of? You? A million? My? What do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what about? So I don't really listening.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to use them? Give them to me

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<v Speaker 1>them over. But it's also too a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. You can use your points to donate to organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I sit on the board of the

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<v Speaker 1>Urban League of Essex County and you know you have

1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:29.520
<v Speaker 1>an amazing you guys have an amazing nonprofit organization until freedom.

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Folks can also redeem their points and donate to your organization.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, given Tuesday is coming up, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to plug in and and to allow people

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<v Speaker 1>to give back to an organization that is doing the work.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's at the front of the four lines. So

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<v Speaker 1>think about that as well. So use the mouse. Use

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<v Speaker 1>the mouse. Use the mouse, very important, all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Or get it down the two hundred thousand, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you what would be your comfortable space I need?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends that the power. Often do you do? You do?

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<v Speaker 1>You travel? You always on the plane, so I don't

1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:08.640
<v Speaker 1>understand you're always travel, especially for work. So use your points.

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<v Speaker 1>But we could set up some time offline if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope and now you want to help me,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you transfer them to me. No, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you you brought I gotta start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about my relationship with money, you know, relationship with money,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. Yeah, starting in your relationship with your

1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:38.880
<v Speaker 1>bank is important. His relationship with money is don't ask

1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:42.280
<v Speaker 1>him for none, don't ask him how much he has,

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<v Speaker 1>and he ain't spending it unless he has to. And

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<v Speaker 1>anybody to ask him for anything gotta work for it

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<v Speaker 1>because they're just not gonna get his money for free.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's literally it. I come from nothing, So

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<v Speaker 1>when you come from zero, you know how it is

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<v Speaker 1>to to have zero. You know, you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that you comfortable. You want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you need to do that you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I don't like to just waste money because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have you know what I realized for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have value from me. Like money

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I use as a resource. It ain't

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<v Speaker 1>something that I idolized that I chase, You understand, thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't chase. Like there's a lot of people do

1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.240
<v Speaker 1>things just for money. Like I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that make a lot and they do it because

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<v Speaker 1>it drives. That's what drives. The money is not my

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<v Speaker 1>driving force, you know. My driving force is about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the work that we do, just seeing things progress, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to just make things better. So when I when I

1:03:40.800 --> 1:03:43.800
<v Speaker 1>accumulate money. I understand that the work and the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I do, it's not the things that just automatically

1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:48.080
<v Speaker 1>bring you a lot of money. So I gotta make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that money I got does the things that it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do. So, you know, that's why I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>My relationship with money is like I don't really we

1:03:56.520 --> 1:03:59.320
<v Speaker 1>don't we cool. We date from time to time. Wing

1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I ain't married to money, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't even thinking about getting mad, but I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that they're cool. And when I lead up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that we need to have some level relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have never been married to money. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have that mindset, especially I could

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<v Speaker 1>totally relate to not coming from it and struggling. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when you do get it, you want to build

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<v Speaker 1>it protected and preserve it. But you must think. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm gonna tell you why. I posted something on

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<v Speaker 1>my page today so for you guys to please go

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<v Speaker 1>follow me, I am underscore shacare a green on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>But the inflations. I went to the Gversary store Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>and a turkey with sixty dollars. I was blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't care how much money I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty dollars inflation work inflation about sixty dollars six or six? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So inflation is through the roof. The cost of living

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<v Speaker 1>is through the roof. I mean eggs have tripled in price,

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<v Speaker 1>a milk. These are things that we need, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to survive. So you have to be thinking about how

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<v Speaker 1>your money is doing, my son, because your money needs

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<v Speaker 1>to work for you so that you can continue to

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<v Speaker 1>just survive. To be honest with you, it's no longer

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<v Speaker 1>an option to have multiple streams of income. I think

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<v Speaker 1>everyone needs to have the mindset of how am I

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<v Speaker 1>generating different multiple strings of income just to live comfortably.

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<v Speaker 1>So something to think about that I cannot get the

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<v Speaker 1>newest when when when our mes restocks working for Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to tell me, because I'm like, I'm in line. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in line, and you're saying take it and do

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<v Speaker 1>something different, invest in it. You know what I'm You

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<v Speaker 1>know to me that I'm that girl too. I love

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<v Speaker 1>a nice Chanel bag, but buy your house first. I

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<v Speaker 1>buy your property, and then I get a Chanel and

1:05:57.760 --> 1:06:01.080
<v Speaker 1>my tenants pay for my chanel back. It's not money

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm paying for out of my incore, right, it's

1:06:04.160 --> 1:06:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it's being generated from multiple properties. And so that's my

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<v Speaker 1>ask for everybody just to go out and just think

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<v Speaker 1>about other ways that you can invest. Me. We all

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<v Speaker 1>like nice things. I'm not saying that, um, but you

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<v Speaker 1>need to make smart decisions. And um, I'm not out

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<v Speaker 1>here spending five thousand dollars on the bag my tenants

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<v Speaker 1>are paying that I have eight different properties that bringing

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<v Speaker 1>income for me. Okay my question, and will let you

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<v Speaker 1>go mm hmmm. So I have tenant, I had a tenant, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's always some druma right. Some of it is

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<v Speaker 1>my fault, right, Some of it is my fault. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of it is um just old houses. You know, it's old,

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<v Speaker 1>it's broke down. That's just where it is. Right. What

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<v Speaker 1>about that fear of people being like I want to get,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to own, but then I gotta fix ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta fix ship. I gotta stay on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another thing to manage in your life. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, once you start to understand, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>start seeing the risk versus the reward, you see how

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<v Speaker 1>much is it actually caused to fix these things versus

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<v Speaker 1>how much you actually make. And then you get you

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<v Speaker 1>have certain um people that you hire that that unders

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, we're gonna be able to do those

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<v Speaker 1>things at a certain time. So it makes it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. You know, the money that you make is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna supersede the amount of work that you pay somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else to do. Anyway, so then you know, once you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, you can just pick up a phone. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is wrong, Okay, let me call such your sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We have this contractor that's going to this. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>this contractor to do this, and I think it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to be become like a well oiled machine exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Tamika, there's situations where you know, like my I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the time, I don't manage these properties. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a property management company that may to them. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are out of state. There's only one

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<v Speaker 1>that I personally and hands on with, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>one in New Jersey. So that property management company takes

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<v Speaker 1>care of everything a piece of mind. If something goes wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>they call a vendor, they take care of it. Comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of my cash flow. But it's not something that

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<v Speaker 1>I have to deal with and and it's it's few

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<v Speaker 1>and far in between. So um. To my son's point,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he hit a spot on. It's gonna the

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<v Speaker 1>cash flow that you're getting on a monthly basis. Will

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<v Speaker 1>oversee if something pops up here and there. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course we gotta do our homework, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to You don't want to be a bad some landlord.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone knows some lords, right right, Thank you, Shikire, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. We'll be in contact. Oh wait great, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait wait, I know we have to go, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I have the nerve to be making this interview longer.

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<v Speaker 1>I am knowing that I have to go. If the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays we didn't talk about the holidays a coming. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday. They already. Listen, we went from Halloween to

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas and Thanksgiving. It's gonna be a stop in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's hybrid Christmas. There are Black Friday sales already

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not even at the week of things. Give

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<v Speaker 1>We're just a week away. How people about this? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people have this real, this real, this real thing happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Two years been in the house. You haven't been anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wasn't you know, going out doing the things

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<v Speaker 1>that things weren't in stopped you couldn't get things. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to enjoy myself. I want things that make

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<v Speaker 1>me feel special, happy or whatever. What's your this is

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<v Speaker 1>how we can close? Is what's your message about this

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<v Speaker 1>holiday season and how we should be spending. So listen,

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna buy right. Like you said, we have children.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to take away from the kids experience

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<v Speaker 1>or traditions and different cultures through differ and things. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna spend, get the best deal, spend responsibly, use

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<v Speaker 1>those points that we talked about today, and try not

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<v Speaker 1>to put it on credit. If you could afford it,

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<v Speaker 1>pay it cash or put it on your card. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean by pay cash is pay it back

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<v Speaker 1>off on your card right away. But don't accumulate interests.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't accumulate more debt, because then January is themna come around,

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<v Speaker 1>and then here you are right in your financial goals again,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna be back talking about this debt that

1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:28.439
<v Speaker 1>you've accumulated that you have to pay off. I also

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<v Speaker 1>like to say pay yourself. When you pay yourself automatically,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a certain amount of money set aside

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<v Speaker 1>for our holidays or travels in the summertime. So get

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<v Speaker 1>in the habit and start figuring out what could you

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<v Speaker 1>afford and set up some type of auto transfer into

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<v Speaker 1>a separate saving account, and that will help you during

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday seasons where you'll have extra cash put aside

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<v Speaker 1>and don't have to have that extra stress or burdening

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<v Speaker 1>or accumulate unnecessary debt. Put money aside all year for

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<v Speaker 1>your your moments, your how day, your summer, your splurge

1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:02.519
<v Speaker 1>is you gotta take that little whatever a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two hundred dollars and tuck it away so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not like, oh my god, we can't pay the rent

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<v Speaker 1>because we gotta buy Christmas presents. Exactly exactly. That's good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. She is smart you going on, yes, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why we have to share with our community,

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<v Speaker 1>because we want everybody to have it going on. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you with the street politicians community, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>certainly have you back. Shakira. Thank you, right, take care

1:11:42.320 --> 1:11:54.559
<v Speaker 1>holidays everyone. That's Shakira. She's so fly everything really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know her um have spent time with

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<v Speaker 1>her on trips in different places, and we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about her story, but she often tells them

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<v Speaker 1>because she's not here. I won't um get too deep

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<v Speaker 1>into it, but she's got a story, a real story

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<v Speaker 1>that will really just blow your mind. And she's so inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know when she says that she didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>from much, she really really didn't. And yet she's in

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<v Speaker 1>the position she's in now. She's saying eight properties. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can do it. Really, anybody can do it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mind state and and and not everybody has the mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>So anybody can do it, but not everybody has the

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<v Speaker 1>mindset to get it done. And I think, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a discipline and and really just setting your mind

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<v Speaker 1>and say this is what I'm gonna do. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. We make up our minds. It's okay this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really focused on this, and we do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we we buckled down. And then once you start to

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<v Speaker 1>see it working, it becomes natural. Right, once you start

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<v Speaker 1>to see it, you do it, and you start say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just made tens out. It becomes fun, it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the normal. Thing is it's routine. It's like they say

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do something for two weeks straight to become

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<v Speaker 1>make it will come to happen. So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do is really sit down and then really say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm doing. I'm focusing this two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>straight to doing this and accomplishing it, and we'll start seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'ping the benefits of it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>start making our money, make money for for us. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the key. Make your money, make money, make your money,

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<v Speaker 1>make money. That's the thing. It's like the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I can't say that I'm risk adverse, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not. But certainly I find myself being paralyzed

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<v Speaker 1>because of having too many options. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>also the thing is she she actually made a very

1:13:49.280 --> 1:13:55.280
<v Speaker 1>good point, which is to decide what is your risk level?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how much can you lose? Can you lose fifty

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<v Speaker 1>tho can you lose a hundred thousand? And because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose anything. But I get the point about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being able to do a risk assessment. But

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<v Speaker 1>then also um really decided what works for you. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be the person that gets a phone

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<v Speaker 1>call that something is wrong in the house. Do you

1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:23.400
<v Speaker 1>want to be the person that doesn't know exactly where

1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the marijuana industry is gonna go, Like there's so many

1:14:27.040 --> 1:14:31.360
<v Speaker 1>ways that it can go, but yet you believe that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this might work for me, So this is something I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in. Do you want to be the crypto?

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<v Speaker 1>I see the n f T s all of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>like are you prepared to learn the industry and park

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<v Speaker 1>your money and maybe lose? I feel like that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. I don't get While we as

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<v Speaker 1>people have no problem putting our money into something that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna make no money. We'll spend fifteen thousand, We'll

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<v Speaker 1>spend two or three thousand on some jeans, a new jacket,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll spend five thousand on the purse, all types of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and have no problem just losing that money. But when

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about investing some money that could quadruple, that

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<v Speaker 1>could triple, we we have to think about it. We

1:15:30.720 --> 1:15:33.559
<v Speaker 1>don't have to think about spending our money into our

1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:36.920
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand on the bag we want. We don't have

1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to think about putting fifty thou on the call we want.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to think about putting on the chain

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<v Speaker 1>we want. But talk about investing that money into something

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<v Speaker 1>that could possibly turn into five and six times what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. We gotta sit there and be like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared to lose my money, but you lose it

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch it. That ain't gonna come back anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have an answer for that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's true. I don't know if that's true. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's buying two thousand dollar genes, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have none of them, and hopefully you want.

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<v Speaker 1>They talked about how the genes course two thas because

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<v Speaker 1>those are Mary's like this this expensive stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you're right. I think that the thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have a product in your hand, right, So people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll say what you want, like, oh, Tunique

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<v Speaker 1>the Mallory, you know she has expensive bags. Yeah, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I worked freaking hard to be able to have

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that I want. And so for me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, my perkins and everything that I had

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<v Speaker 1>that's related in the Ers family. The resell value is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not reselling it, of course I'm not. I'm keeping

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<v Speaker 1>them for the rest of my life. But not everything depreciates,

1:16:51.080 --> 1:16:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So don't that's not it's not true that everything depreciates.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought a bag and resell value is more than

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<v Speaker 1>what you paid. WHOA, I bought a bag that was

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<v Speaker 1>X amount of dollars. Not you, not you. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and looked at like what people are selling them for,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's sights out there where you can

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<v Speaker 1>post your stuff, and people do that with watches. People

1:17:17.960 --> 1:17:21.120
<v Speaker 1>hold onto things and when they're in trouble, they might

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<v Speaker 1>go sell their stuff. Guess what four times the amount,

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<v Speaker 1>four times the amount. Now that's today. There may come

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<v Speaker 1>a time when there's racism in the store, or there

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, some other issue animal um, you know, cruelty,

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<v Speaker 1>or you find out where the stuff is being made

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<v Speaker 1>in a factory. There are different things politically and morally

1:17:42.600 --> 1:17:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that can get in the brands way, and at that

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<v Speaker 1>point it hurts the brand's image and therefore people don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it and they've moved on to something else. Right. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that liquor that we were talking about that the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, that j Crystal. They still can't get people

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<v Speaker 1>to really put it back in the rotation of the

1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:05.599
<v Speaker 1>clubs and what have you. And we see as Spades

1:18:06.040 --> 1:18:08.519
<v Speaker 1>is a thing right, Jay said, to hell with Crystal,

1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and then here we are, so that can happen to

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<v Speaker 1>the brand. And so your quote unquote investment might not

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<v Speaker 1>be as um as uh valuable as it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been at one time. But if I sold my Birkins

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I could make X amount of dollars that

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<v Speaker 1>is way more. So I'm only bringing that point up

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<v Speaker 1>because that's one Yeah. No, I'm just bringing that up

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<v Speaker 1>because that's one aspect. That's one aspect. Doesn't mean still

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<v Speaker 1>that we should do more shopping in stores than we

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<v Speaker 1>do investing, And I totally agree with you. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to make sure I say that because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anybody to get the impression that I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about bags being more important than investments, because I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>even that's not even a question. And I'm certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>my life I have enough stuff that I've accumulated enough

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't need another thing. So we're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>out that. But what I will say is that people

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<v Speaker 1>want something in their hand for their money. So when

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the store and their shirt is a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars, two hundred dollars, two thousand dollars, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>home with that shirt. The shirt might not be good

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<v Speaker 1>in two months, three months, or whatever. All of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, But they have the shirt in their

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<v Speaker 1>hand at the time for the money they spent with

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<v Speaker 1>certain investments. You said, your point is it could do this,

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<v Speaker 1>that and the third it could. And I think for

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<v Speaker 1>some people it's the thought that I'm like, I could

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<v Speaker 1>take this two thousand dollars and go on a vacation

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<v Speaker 1>and have my memories and my experience. Or I could

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<v Speaker 1>go online and transfer two thousand dollars to Robin Hood

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<v Speaker 1>and stashing all of these websites and then some ship

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<v Speaker 1>that happens in the atmosphere I don't even know about.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people are manipulating numbers and this and that out

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and the next thing, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars that I had turns into zero dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I hear what you're saying. But for for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, most products depreciate. Of course they do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, I still have the thing. Even

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<v Speaker 1>if you have it, you know you have for you

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<v Speaker 1>probably have or and a lot of people probably have

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<v Speaker 1>things that they've spent ten and fifteen thousand dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't wear it all. It's probably completely out

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<v Speaker 1>of style. You like, I would never wear it again,

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<v Speaker 1>but never out of style, out of rotation, okay, is

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<v Speaker 1>out of rotation. It's probably you probably don't even like

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<v Speaker 1>it no more. You know. It's things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have I'm just saying that we have this block

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<v Speaker 1>investing and it's a mind state that you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to put my money because you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>if I lose my money? What if you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure about this? And we don't we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have the same fear of just spending our money that

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<v Speaker 1>its objects and and you know, and items. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I and I agree with you a thousand percent that

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<v Speaker 1>we spend frivolous money on frivolous things that can't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything for us in terms of the larger goals that

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<v Speaker 1>we have in life. And I have learned my lesson

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I agree with shakira Um and what she

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<v Speaker 1>said that you know, our relationship with money can be

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<v Speaker 1>based upon what we didn't learn, what we didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's and and and and it's not personal. My

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<v Speaker 1>parents didn't know, right, They didn't know they had little

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<v Speaker 1>check book and they put their information, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>put their information in the lined up how much they spent.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't mean that they realize rather than getting

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<v Speaker 1>a co op, which I really don't don't necessarily own,

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<v Speaker 1>I should go ahead and buy this house. Right. My

1:21:58.120 --> 1:22:00.479
<v Speaker 1>mom was like, I want to buy this house. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy this house. But my father was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to do that because he's the type

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<v Speaker 1>of person that his relationship with money is the same.

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<v Speaker 1>He want to make sure any emergency he good. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my father is the man, he gonna be good. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say if you call him right now and say, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in trouble, he might not have five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>to get you out with ship. He might I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, but but but that might

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not talking about at that level. But certainly

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<v Speaker 1>he can pretty much get his family members out of

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<v Speaker 1>any situation that they're in, his children, his grandchildren, because

1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he always keep keeps his money situated to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. There are other people that toss it

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<v Speaker 1>all to the wall and then they and then they

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<v Speaker 1>end up having even more. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people lose. So it is a very touch

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<v Speaker 1>and gold situation. And the point that she made is

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<v Speaker 1>so important about that risk being able to decide what

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<v Speaker 1>is my risk level? How much can I lose? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's in comparison mice too. Or it goes

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<v Speaker 1>along with what Precious is talking about. The trauma that

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<v Speaker 1>we had set the tone for for so many things,

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<v Speaker 1>the way in which we move and operate every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>and a part of why we are we're why I

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<v Speaker 1>am unwilling to just invest in certain ideas and certain

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<v Speaker 1>things that I don't know or understand enough about is

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<v Speaker 1>because I do want to control the things around me

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<v Speaker 1>and have safety. She says, safety and security, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it makes me feel unsafe to just put my

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<v Speaker 1>money in the world and hope it works out well.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta, I think we just we have to start

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<v Speaker 1>enhancing and building our mentality, especially when it comes to money.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I noticed in the black community a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>us do get it, but there's a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>that just are still more consumer base then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then then invest s ment based and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that mindset, that's what we have to flip

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<v Speaker 1>and get more in investment in saying like she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna buy this broken bag. I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>this real estate that I brought and let these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ri that they pay me for it by the bags.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we start thinking like that, we started thinking

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<v Speaker 1>three steps ahead. I think it's gonna you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna point paying out a lot better for us acts.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that said, another dope episode. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>both our guests who had a lot, a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>offer us. I need me somebody to get in my

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<v Speaker 1>brain and I definitely need me a couple of few

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<v Speaker 1>more dollars. Man. So thanks Precious and Shaquira for coming

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