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Speaker 1: Here we go, hour two. It's a Friday. Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: in five minutes. He used to coach in the SEC,

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Speaker 1: formerly known as the Dominating College Football Conference. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Jay Mackett looks like the Mountain West with bigger stadiums.

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Speaker 1: That's what I see. Well, well, I mean it's the

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Speaker 1: way I said this earlier. When you when they're certain,

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Speaker 1: I'll show it to Urban that one run play where

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Speaker 1: they're pushing all miss back ten yards. Nobody did that

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Speaker 1: to the SEC four years ago. Nick Saban there's a

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Speaker 1: reason Nick Saban could a host and left for television.

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Speaker 1: He saw it coming. If you took Texas and Texas

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Speaker 1: A and M out of the SEC, the Texas oil money,

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Speaker 1: what would this conference be them? They can't compete getting

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Speaker 1: the top recruits. Now oil money, you can compete.

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Speaker 3: I don't think people understand the gravity of where this

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Speaker 3: is headed and how fast it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Come no SEC team against go Look at their last

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Speaker 1: couple of years in the bowl games.

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Speaker 4: So what do you where are we in three years?

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Speaker 4: I mean, are we gonna have.

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Speaker 3: Like a Minnesota or some wacky Big ten millage on

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Speaker 3: who the boosters are exactly?

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban wrote a massive eight figure check to Indiana

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Speaker 1: this win.

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Speaker 4: Where was Indiana three years ago? Nobody knows? Bottom of

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Speaker 4: the Big ten? Nobody cared about it.

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Speaker 1: They're now for fifty sixty years.

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Speaker 3: I don't as long as Signette's there and the money's

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Speaker 3: rolling in, they're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Of course, by the for the record, Bloomington's an awesome

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Speaker 1: college town, so it's an easy place. I've known several

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Speaker 1: parents whose kids went there. They all love it. So

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Speaker 1: it's like a fun campus. I mean, it's a place

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Speaker 3: Like if I said better projection next five years, Indiana

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Speaker 4: It's not even clothes.

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Speaker 3: But people don't understand that. Like in the SEC, they don't.

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Speaker 1: Grasp Oregon right now is a better college football program

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Speaker 1: than anybody in the SEC. They were not they would

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Speaker 1: have been like third four years ago. Oregon's absolutely got

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Speaker 1: better players, a better booster again. LSU's biggest booster is

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Speaker 1: a personal injury attorney, the biggest Georgia booster who rest

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Speaker 1: in peace. The gentleman had passed away. It was a

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Speaker 1: kind of a bourbon whiskey distributor. Those are great boosters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can't be your number one in the nil era. Can't

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Speaker 1: be a car dealer, got to be a car maker.

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Speaker 1: This Tech's got oil money. Texas Tech has a better

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Speaker 1: future next five years. Just Tech has a billionaire. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech is Indiana without Indiana's coach, the Signetti's just

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Speaker 1: made it all work, all right, blazing five times. What

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Speaker 1: a regular season. We had sixty percent best here in

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Speaker 1: a while. I like my picks. Let's start our blazing

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Speaker 1: five postseason edition.

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Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up, Fired up. It's Collins Blazon Fuck

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Speaker 2: Ramsid Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Rams minus ten and a half is the side. They

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Speaker 1: had an NFL eight wins by fourteen plus points this season.

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Speaker 1: No team had that many big blowout wins. Number one offense,

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Speaker 1: number one scoring offense. They just lost to this team.

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Speaker 1: That is momentum at his motivation They're twelve to two

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Speaker 1: in games in which they have one or fewer turnovers.

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Speaker 1: So if they can cut the turnovers down, and Stafford

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Speaker 1: gonna win the game. The question is by how much.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers are the only team to make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: with a negative point differential. Bryce Young has struggled this

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Speaker 1: season against good teams. Passer rating is seventy against playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: Rams win it, Rams cover final score thirty three to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Packers at Bears.

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Speaker 1: I like the Bears at home. Lousy weather, plus one

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Speaker 1: PFF hes it at number three. They've won two of

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Speaker 1: the last three games against Green Bay. Caleb Williams five

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Speaker 1: Packers are in a four game losing streak heading into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. They've lost for their last five playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Thirtieth rank total defense since Micah Parsons has left. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Four Bills at Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: I like the Jags plus one and a half. They're

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Speaker 1: almost three touchdowns. They're eight to zero against the spread

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Speaker 1: in their last eight games. Remind me of that Carolina

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Speaker 1: team with Cam Newton. They just got hot and you're like,

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Speaker 1: get out of the way. I get out of the

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Speaker 1: Bills have trailed in the second half seven and the

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Speaker 1: teams on the road. They cannot stop the run. The

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Speaker 1: Bills have the worst run defense of every playoff team.

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Speaker 1: I like the Jags to win. Superman or not at

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Speaker 1: Ers at Eagles listen. I'm gonna go Eagles minus five

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Speaker 1: and a half. I worry about Piersoll and Trent Williams.

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Speaker 1: They do have the number one red zone offense, so

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Speaker 1: they get sevens not threes. They also have one turnover

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Speaker 1: It's got four hundred rushing yards. They're at home to

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Speaker 1: the better team, to the healthier team. List in the

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Speaker 1: Niners against Vic Fangio. Jmack talked about it earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: The Niners and Shanahan against Vic Fangio average twelve points

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Speaker 1: the league. Jalen Hurts is comfortable at home. Better roster,

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Speaker 1: healthier roster. I'm gonna take the Eagles to win and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles to cover twenty eight to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Oregon versus Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I like Indiana minus three and a half. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that game at Otson was a score close at

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Speaker 1: the score indicated Indiana's coming off back to back wins

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Speaker 1: where they hammered Alabama and they beat Ohio State three

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Speaker 1: Indiana plays better against better teams. They crushed a good

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Speaker 1: Oregon's a very good team. I just don't think they're

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Speaker 1: built defeat an Indiana team that is this efficient, this

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Speaker 1: well coach doesn't turn the ball over. I think Indiana wins.

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Speaker 1: I think Indiana covers. I think it's a really competitive

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Speaker 1: game with the two best college quarterbacks. Indiana thirty three,

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Speaker 1: Oregon twenty eight. So you know, I'm gonna pass on

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Speaker 1: New England Chargers. I'm gonna pass on the Steelers Texans

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Speaker 1: because the number now is only three. That was gonna

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Speaker 1: be my fifth bet. I'm gonna take the Hoosiers. I

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Speaker 1: got Dogs, Jags and Bears. I got favorites Indiana Eagles

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Speaker 4: Loving the Rams pick. We'll talk Packers Bears in the

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Speaker 4: final segment of the show.

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Speaker 3: I like the Eagles pick based on what we saw

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Speaker 3: last night, Colin, we were moments away from Ole Miss

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Speaker 3: being in the Natty. I don't feel great about this

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Speaker 3: Indian Oregon game. Honestly, I have no It could go

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Speaker 3: either way. It feels like a coin flip, does it not?

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Speaker 2: Not to me?

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Speaker 1: But I think it's going Oregon to me, has an

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Speaker 3: How many of these rematches have we seen that have

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Speaker 3: gone the other way? That's true, And I know that's

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Speaker 3: like a silly handicapping thing. But the motivation factor maybe

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Speaker 3: erbing to talk about it, But like I just Oregon.

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Speaker 3: You know they're going to be fired up for revenge

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Speaker 3: after losing it home to Indian.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer now Fox Sports joining US Live seventeen years,

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Speaker 1: three national championships. Let's talk about that. About facing a

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Speaker 1: NFL all the time, you don't do it in college much.

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Speaker 1: How much of an advantage is it for the Oregon Ducks?

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Speaker 5: Hi, Colin, I've done it one time as in the

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Speaker 5: assistant coach. I don't think there's any bearing, you know.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that, uh uther than comfort and knowing

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Speaker 5: the personnel, you know. Other than that, I don't I

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Speaker 5: don't see that. I hear people trying to make a

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Speaker 5: big deal of that. Can you beat them twice a year?

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Speaker 5: This is a new game, new season for these two teams.

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Speaker 5: Everything's on the line. I'm actually staying at the Oregon

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Speaker 5: Hotel right now. And this is a this is a

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Speaker 5: I love their coaching staff, and but I'll tell you

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Speaker 5: there's who this is. Atlanta has become Indiana Central. I've

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Speaker 5: never seen so many damn Indiana fants everywhere.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you know it's interesting. Belichick in his prime, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots didn't fumble. Indiana doesn't fumble. They don't drop passes.

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Speaker 1: How do you explain that? I mean, your teams were

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Speaker 1: well coached. It's it's crazy. How do you How do

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Speaker 5: I mean I watched you don't fumble because the first

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Speaker 5: of all, the players have bought into the culture of

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Speaker 5: the program. Watch the tailbacks anytime, or receiver anytime they're

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this.

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Speaker 5: Calling about Indiana, We've been covering a lot of big

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Speaker 5: new kickoff when they beat Nebraska last year, I walked

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Speaker 5: outside of the green mindself, I gotta watch this because Indiana,

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Speaker 5: the Indiana I know, never looked or played like this,

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Speaker 5: and so I'm gonna go watch this close. I don't

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Speaker 5: out talented a couple of times last year and lost

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Speaker 5: some games. But I don't see the finer ponents points

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Speaker 5: of coaching, for example, perimeter blocking on offense, the tailback

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Speaker 5: Then on defense, run fits, disengaging blocks and blown coverages.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to see a videotape or whenever I've seen that.

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Speaker 5: You don't see that, and that to me, that is players. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: coaches get credit players buying in to what these coordinators

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Speaker 6: It's awesome to watch, so.

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Speaker 1: There's so much fun listen I would be happy. I'd

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Speaker 5: Now he's taking care of the ball, He's making some

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Speaker 1: Listen. I said this for it was like the SEC

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Speaker 5: not the same. You don't have that same fear factor.

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Speaker 5: you're seeing teams get I mean Indiana hammer in, Alabama,

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Speaker 5: Hammered Vanderbilt, and that tells you whatever happens happened.

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Speaker 6: I wish I had an explanation.

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Speaker 5: I've been thinking about this same for the last few

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Speaker 5: And then our coached early in the Big Ten and

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Speaker 1: It's hard now, yeah, it's it's crazy. The uh so

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Speaker 5: That's the worst thing I've heard in the last ten

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Speaker 5: But it's the most disturbing thing I've heard. And I

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Speaker 5: also heard this from colleagues. It's like I'm the punching

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Speaker 1: Oh, I want to go back one one final thing,

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Speaker 1: So life is nuanced and gray. It's not all black

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Speaker 1: and White. I would not call a pass interference on

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Speaker 1: Hail Mary's in the NFL. In the NBA finals, you

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Speaker 5: It does bother me because of if it's a foul,

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Speaker 5: You know, it has to be so flagrant that you

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Speaker 5: you you know you make that call. But as we're

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Speaker 5: his left hands all over him calling. Oh yeah, I know,

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Speaker 5: dog gun it. You put me on the spot. You

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Speaker 5: final play. But for the record, but it is past interference.

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Speaker 1: I think you get the call. Probably in the second

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Speaker 6: The left hand's the only thing that bothers me right there.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it bothers everybody, I think except Miami. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's again, I know everybody disagrees with me.

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Speaker 1: They're like that that's past interviewing. Yeah, I know it is.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm fighting you call and throw the flag, man,

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Speaker 1: All Right, Herb, it's great seeing you. Great scenior calling.

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Speaker 1: It's all I ever noticed this in the morning during

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Speaker 1: But at two in the afternoon, if somebody's doing that,

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the outrage if they had thrown a

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Speaker 4: Was just holding him. That was going on, That's going

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Speaker 1: Oh it was just hiliriously fun. I'll say this. I

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Speaker 1: a I think he has a good enough arm. I

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Speaker 1: just think that kid i'd like in my locker room.

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Speaker 3: Could he be like your number two quarterback? Like a

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Speaker 3: if I lawler Malik Willis back up.

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Speaker 1: If I said to you, Tyrod Taylor with way better mobility,

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Speaker 1: like you're getting a grown up. And every time you

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Speaker 1: listen to the kid, he's a grown up. He's a

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Speaker 1: team guy. He's a wonderful guy. I think he plays

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Speaker 1: on Sunday and Oh, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, he carried a fairist state to a national championship

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Speaker 3: and then goes to Ole Miss and nearly takes them.

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Speaker 1: To the national chanp Sometimes you can't overthink the room

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Speaker 1: when you watch the ball come out of his hands.

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Speaker 1: When you watch it, it's got a lot of it's

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Speaker 1: got some juice, makes place and makes a bunch of players.

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Speaker 4: That sounds goofy, but like.

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Speaker 1: That also, hind there's value in this. He seems like

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Speaker 1: a great kid. I like his story. Yeah, he had

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Speaker 1: to endure fairest state, I mean farrest state, Like in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: You go to Michigan or Michigan State, or Central Michigan

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Speaker 1: or Western Michigan, and when you run out of options

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Speaker 1: you go to you go there.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wanted this guy coming out of high school.

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Speaker 1: That just seems to me when I watch him, the

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Speaker 1: mobility is obvious. The ball seems to come out like fast.

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Speaker 1: There's a real energy to his ball, and so I

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Speaker 1: draft him. Yes, it's the Herd.

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Speaker 1: All sorts of stuff Today j Max got his picks.

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Speaker 1: He's been pretty hot this year. Not me hot, but

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Speaker 1: the pretty hot with the news.

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Speaker 2: Turn on the news, this is the headline news.

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Speaker 4: How long have I been on the show now, three years?

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't think we've ever talked about the Jacksonville

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Speaker 3: Jaguars as much. That's how much they've turned it around.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Trevor Lawrence. I mean we're at the point

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Speaker 3: now where Tom Brady is talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Here on the show, Tom's talked about Cohen's influence on

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 8: Liam's done a great job even when he was at

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Speaker 8: Tampa last year. Or he has a couple opportunities to,

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Speaker 8: you know, really kind of take the skill sets that

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Speaker 8: he's learned from other coaches that he's been around and

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Speaker 8: then morph them into a system where they have a

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Speaker 8: lot of good skill players. And Trevor is you know,

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Speaker 8: a coach has got to get the players a lot

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Speaker 8: of layups. Good OC's get their quarterbacks layups. You don't

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Speaker 8: have to thread the need on every single throw. You

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Speaker 8: got guys that are wide open. Great, there's a big

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Speaker 8: margin of there on a big portion of the passes.

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Speaker 8: That's the goal of an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's done. He's created clarity and an ease,

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence has delivered on that. It's you can't

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Speaker 1: make every throw difficult. You got to have We talked

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Speaker 1: about this with Mahomes when he came into the league.

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Speaker 1: He'd give you three great plays like MJ a game,

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Speaker 1: but mostly it was him hitting nine yard drags and

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Speaker 1: sideline stuff and bubble screens and getting all those down.

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Speaker 1: Herbert's like that. Herbert doesn't miss the layouts. You can

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Speaker 1: ask your quarterback about four to five times to make

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Speaker 1: a great throw, and those, if you have the right protection,

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Speaker 1: you can make those. Can't ask him to make twelve

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Speaker 1: of those.

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Speaker 4: So two questions.

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Speaker 3: Number one, the fact that Travis Hunter, you know, he

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Speaker 3: had an okay rookie year, I mean, can we even

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Speaker 3: call it okay?

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he got hurt.

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Speaker 3: They add Jacobe Myers and the offense took off like

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Speaker 3: a rocket ship.

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Speaker 4: Does that say anything to you about Well.

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers is a pro. He can walk into any

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Speaker 1: locker room and he knows he knows the playbook in

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Speaker 1: two weeks. He can't ask rookies to do that, right,

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Speaker 1: so I think it added a big time grown up

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. It's remarkable. He was in New England. He

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Speaker 1: was their best receiver. They let him go. He goes

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Speaker 1: to the Raiders. He's their best receiver. They let him go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, what's the Raider offense after they

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Speaker 1: let him go? What was the Patriots offense after they

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Speaker 1: let him go? Like, I don't know why this guy

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Speaker 1: keeps bouncing around the league. Everywhere he goes he's an asset. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: The other aspect, So the defensive coordinator of the Jags,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Campanil, I know he doesn't get a lot of pub.

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Speaker 4: So I covered high school sports in Jersey.

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Speaker 3: This guy was a legend, ended up going to Rutgers,

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Speaker 3: and he is really doing some.

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Speaker 4: Things with this Jags defense.

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Speaker 3: I hop people aren't talking about it, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go ahead and guess. If Josh Allen is shut down

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Speaker 3: and the Bills get held to like thirteen fourteen, I

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Speaker 3: think this guy's going to get some interviews for head

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Speaker 3: coaching Johnson.

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Speaker 1: And he was a high school coach in Jersey.

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Speaker 3: He was a high school player, then a coach and

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Speaker 3: then I mean this guy has done some things to

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Speaker 3: his defense. They play a lot of zone and the

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Speaker 3: Bills don't have a lot of zone beaters. They got

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Speaker 3: like Kean Coleman Palmer from the Chargers. There's just street line.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Guys, I'm starting to hear some could the Jags blow

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Speaker 3: them out and at that point Den McDermott's probably took.

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Speaker 1: We've discussed this. The line does not make sense.

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Speaker 4: Something's out, something's going on this.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo and Josh Allen had been as dominating the last

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Speaker 1: six weeks, and this game was in Buffalo, they would

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Speaker 1: be like a seven to nine point favorite favorite. Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: isn't even a favorite, and they've been playing like this.

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Speaker 1: It's like, guys, the Helmets aren't playing the people.

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Speaker 4: Remember when the Chiefs played.

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Speaker 3: The Jags on Monday Night Football and then Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 3: had like the ninety nine yard pick six.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people were.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, well, you know that flipped the game and

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Speaker 3: Chiefs should have won that. I thought the Jags were

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Speaker 3: the better. We talked about this, like go to the

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Speaker 3: Denver game. They harder game that was thirty five six,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the worst like Harball doesn't get beat

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Speaker 3: like that often playoff game last year when everybody was

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Speaker 3: hurt in Jacksonville. Just be careful Buffalo in this one.

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Speaker 3: Next story, let's go to the Dolphins firing up Mike

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Speaker 3: McDaniel earlier this week. A lot of people are connecting

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Speaker 3: him with the Cleveland Browns opening, but a new report

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Speaker 3: indicates the Lions desperately want him to be the offensive coordinator. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Dan Campbell took over play calling late in the season

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Speaker 3: because Morton was not good.

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Speaker 4: Then they dump Morton recently.

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Speaker 3: You can make an argument if they land McDaniel, that's

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Speaker 3: the best coordinator higher because that would fit.

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Speaker 4: Look at GoF kids in company.

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, hire Mike McDaniel. This is one of those layups.

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Speaker 1: Go hire Mike McDaniel as your coordinator. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: exactly what he should do, because in Miami he could

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Speaker 1: never get the line in the quarterback to his loving.

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Speaker 1: Now he gets golf and a great o line. So

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel made two of Pro Bowl or made the

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Speaker 1: playoffs with a bad old line. Now he gets a

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Speaker 1: great old line potentially, and a veteran quarterback who throws

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Speaker 1: goff throws a much better deep ball.

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Speaker 3: And remember Laporta was hurt at the end of the season,

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Speaker 3: missed a bunch of games.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, what did Detroit go this

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Speaker 1: sh you're eight and nine right now, McDaniel goes to

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Speaker 1: the Lions. That's back to that thirteen five, thirteen four.

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Speaker 3: They got a lot of pieces on offense. The defense

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Speaker 3: leaves some things to be desired. Let me ask, though

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Speaker 3: McDaniel obviously would fit in the seamlessly, should he aim

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Speaker 3: for a head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to get a head coaching job. Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury's not a head coach. Not eight jobs, Colin, we

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Speaker 1: got fight eight head coaches.

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Speaker 6: You will. I mean you got.

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Speaker 1: Hardboss Stefanski and Mike McCarthy, all proven head coaches. So

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Speaker 1: of those eight jobs, you're down to five. Also, Brian

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Speaker 1: Flores probably has a chance to get one.

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Speaker 4: I think the lawsuit against the league is still pending.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: I just if I go, if I'm McDaniel, I walk

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Speaker 3: into head coaching interviews. Guys, I got this Dolphins mess

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Speaker 3: with my GM who got fired and couldn't hit a

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Speaker 3: draft pick to save his life. I got them to

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Speaker 3: the playoffs twice with two of.

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Speaker 1: Who nobody wants. Why isn't Brian Dable being mentioned? Good question, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you told me tomorrow Brian Dabele gets the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Falcons job, I'd be like, Oh, I think they'll win

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Speaker 1: the division.

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere. That's very strange.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Why why isn't Brian Dabele won a playoff game

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's would instantly be a candidate for Buffalo?

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Speaker 3: Remember he was the OC there for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, I think that'd be a great show.

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Speaker 4: I Dable's good. I like Dabe all right.

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Speaker 3: Final story, Colin drop mock draft one point, Oh, yesterday

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Speaker 3: got my guy Mendoza up top. Obviously Dante Moore to

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Speaker 3: my Jets and uh, you know some people obviously unhappy

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Speaker 3: as mock drafts come out. Wait, we wouldn't take that guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm heavy on the offensive line. We've seen the issue

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Speaker 3: in the trenches around the league. Chiefs lose their offensive,

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Speaker 3: it's over.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me look at this, Let me look

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Speaker 1: at this. So don't he Coutte Moore coming out?

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people do. I got two

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the top ten, that's it. Ty Simpson a

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Speaker 3: little further down. Baine, by the way, last night was

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Speaker 3: super quiet. He had I think one pressure in the game,

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Speaker 3: but he's still elite. The guy that is interesting to

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Speaker 3: me Carnell Tate from Ohio State. If he goes to

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Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin, that's an instant offense. In Washington,

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Speaker 3: they don't have an OC right now. What do you

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Speaker 3: think about Caleb Downs? The Ohio State stud have him

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Speaker 3: ten to the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Here's the problem with Downs.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of NFL teams utilize safeties in

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Speaker 3: different ways now around the league. I wonder if Downs

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Speaker 3: moves up higher into the top tens.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna name the conference your top fifteen players. Oh,

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Speaker 1: here we go, Big ten, Big ten, ACC ACC, Big twelve, SEC,

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Speaker 1: Big ten, Big ten, Big twelve, Big ten, Big ten,

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Speaker 1: ACC SEC Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of SEC in there.

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Speaker 1: And I think Cayden Green feels like a bit of

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Speaker 1: a reach. Not that it's a bad by you, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying he could easily not go in this space.

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Speaker 4: So wasn't there a year where there were like ten

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Speaker 4: SEC guys in.

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Speaker 1: The person when you I noticed it this year watching

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Speaker 1: George's defense. I was just like, oh, you can move

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Speaker 1: the ball in Georgia. You could not move the ball

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Speaker 1: in Georgia four years ago. Nobody could.

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love a little low to Baltimore. I think there's

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Speaker 3: a soft reset with the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. If the Giants get Spencer

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Speaker 1: Fano out of Utah, you just found a ten year

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Speaker 1: right tackle between and also also see I would do this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of drafting wide receivers high.

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Speaker 1: What the you bring Fano in it? Right tackle? And

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Speaker 1: then if Andrew Thomas, who has a history getting banged up,

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Speaker 1: is out, you move Fano over. The Giants have to

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Speaker 1: draft a tackle. Second pick should be a tight end.

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Speaker 3: Well, they got theo Johnson and Bellinger are serviceable, you know,

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Speaker 3: neighbors the wide receiver. This offense, Daniel Jeremiah convinced me

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Speaker 3: of this. This offense is about to take off with

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Speaker 3: Jackson dark. They've got guys when they're healthy next year.

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Speaker 3: The defense leaves a little something.

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Speaker 4: To be desired.

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Speaker 1: That's fun.

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Speaker 4: I need wide receivers up there. That was the biggest art.

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Speaker 1: As you drop this, where is your mock draft at

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Speaker 1: on Instagram on ig.

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Speaker 4: You don't follow me there yet, still do you?

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Speaker 3: I don't go to an Instagram along are You're more

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Speaker 3: of a TikTok guy.

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Speaker 1: Now. I like TikTok, I go, I go, I read

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Speaker 1: books occasionally, occasionally I'll go on X because I put

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Speaker 1: my podcast on there.

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Speaker 3: You need to just pull the pin on a grenade,

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Speaker 3: throw it on X and then leave for five hours.

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Speaker 4: That's the strategy Joe roganstyle. Yeah, just put in a

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Speaker 4: hot take and then leave and let everyone, let all

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Speaker 4: the fish just argue over it and.

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Speaker 1: Just that's quite a strategy.

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Speaker 6: J Mack with a news.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 3: Wild Card Weekend has two huge games on Fox. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: MVP front runner Matthew Stafford leads the Rams again, It's

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young and the Panthers. Then on Sunday, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: and the defending champion Eagles take on Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 4: And the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 3: It's wild Card Weekend powered by Verizon Tomorrow and Sunday

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Speaker 3: on Bucks.

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Speaker 1: When you watch Indiana and Oregon play tonight, you're going

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Speaker 1: to see the two best college quarterbacks that both would

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Speaker 1: be if they came out, it'd be one and two

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Put them in any order you want.

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Speaker 1: I like Mendos a little bit more, but they're both

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Speaker 1: really good, good kids, good good core quarterbacks. Both can

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Speaker 1: move more and moves a little better. But when you

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Speaker 1: watch Indiana, really good coaching just jumps off the TV.

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Speaker 1: They just don't make any mistakes. They haven't had an

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Speaker 1: Aaron snap all year, not one. Fewest drop passes, best

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, they haven't had a fumble since

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Speaker 1: the eighteenth play of the season. It's just now. Some

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Speaker 1: of it is the age of their team. They're just

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Speaker 1: an older, more mature team. They really push the ball

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Speaker 1: down the field. They go, they throw the ball deep

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Speaker 1: down the field. So Mendoz is a real key here.

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Speaker 1: Signette's done a remarkable job. But they were good last year,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't special. Here's Urban on what he sees

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Speaker 1: with their coaching.

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Speaker 5: You don't fumble because the first of all, the players

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Speaker 5: have bought into the culture of the program. Watch the

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Speaker 5: tailbacks anytime, or receiver anytime they're going through traffic. You

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Speaker 5: see the right hand come right over the ball, not

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Speaker 5: partial all the time. I don't know if I, off

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Speaker 5: the top of my head can think of a mistake

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Speaker 5: they made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just don't. I like Indiana. I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty close tonight. All right, let's put up the weekend's

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Speaker 1: playoff matchups. There is one game we all sort of

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Speaker 1: agree with. Rams probably beat the Panthers. You know, they

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Speaker 1: played before Matt Stafford did not play particularly well, So

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Speaker 1: that game on Fox, I think the Rams win. Again.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Ram wins are They're an interesting team.

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Speaker 1: They'll have these three series stretches where they stall and

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Speaker 1: they're three and out. And I don't love their special teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they gave up a kickoff for a

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Speaker 1: touchdown and missed two field goals and they ended up

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Speaker 1: winning by just a touchdown, but dominated, I mean it

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Speaker 1: could if it looks a little bit like Miami Ole

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Speaker 1: miss last night, Like how is this game close? I

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Speaker 1: could see that, But I still think they would win.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay and the Bears. Everybody's all over the map

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Speaker 1: on that one. You know, it's the third time they've played.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady talked about that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: This is what you love about it.

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Speaker 4: These two teams know each other so well.

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Speaker 8: Guys are coming out of you know, some unherlded receivers

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Speaker 8: from the Bears have made some plays late in these games.

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Speaker 8: So it is a super tight matchup for this game.

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Speaker 8: This is one of the most intriguing games of the weekend.

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Speaker 8: I can't wait to see how both teams played. And look,

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Speaker 8: they know each other so well. So now it really

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Speaker 8: does come down to the fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes down to turnovers. So go back to

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Speaker 1: the board again looking at the games. So the weekend

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Speaker 1: starts with a dominating team, heavily favored. Then it goes

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Speaker 1: into teams playing for the third time. Then it goes

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Speaker 1: into Sunday early, a wild potential Bills Jaguars game. The

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Speaker 1: Bills have the best player, the Jags have the hottest team.

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Speaker 1: Then you go into kind of an iconic Niners at

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, where it's really about health in the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers, if they're healthy, they can beat anybody. Chargers Patriots,

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Speaker 1: where you have two quarterbacks who kind of want Herbert

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Speaker 1: feels like the East Coast version, you know, Drake May

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Speaker 1: and vice versa. And then Monday you've got a Texans

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Speaker 1: team that doesn't score much but as the best defense

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers and forty two year old Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: So what I like about the weekend? You're getting in

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Speaker 1: a variety of games. You're getting first playoff game. Guy,

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Speaker 1: you're getting wonky, weird Jaguar franchise with a chance to

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Speaker 1: upend the Buffalo Bills franchise with a win. Jmack one

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Speaker 1: hour from now has his picks. If I took the Rams,

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Speaker 1: let's just say, I don't give away your picks. But

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Speaker 1: if I said to you, there's a crazy headline after

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Speaker 1: the weekend, Like, there's a headline, You're like, because you

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Speaker 1: know what's going to happen wild Card weekend. There's going

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Speaker 1: to be a weird, weird moment.

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Speaker 3: Jaguars thirty one to ten, Bills fire their coach, and

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Speaker 3: the headlines are, boy, all the highest paid quarterbacks, the

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Speaker 3: superstar quarterbacks are out, either missed the playoffs or they

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Speaker 3: lose in the first round. What do we do about

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Speaker 3: paying franchise quarterbacks and the money? This is because Lamar,

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Speaker 3: Remember he's not happy with his deal.

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Speaker 4: He wants a new one.

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Speaker 1: He's got a seventy four million cap hit next year.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know if it's sustainable. You look

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Speaker 3: at that Chiefs roster. I know we got some chiefs

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Speaker 3: fans of the network, a lot of terrible a top

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Speaker 3: twenty roster in the league. Look, just don't have dune.

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Speaker 3: Look at the Bills defense, there's nobody. So if you

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Speaker 3: look at who's in here, it is and this includes

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Speaker 3: bo Nix and Sam Darnold next Weeknd's it's either quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: on rookie deals or quarterbacks with reasonably team friendly deals.

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold pretty team friendly. Brock pretty pretty team friendly.

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Speaker 3: I'm justin Herberts is viewed as pretty team Friendlyn hurts, yep,

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Speaker 3: Jalen hurts. Josh Allens is not team friendly. No, it's

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen makes a lot of money. Aaron Rodgers. By

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Speaker 3: the way, team friendly deal, it feels like a new era,

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Speaker 3: And it's weird because in college football there's this new

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Speaker 3: era with the NIL. I feel like the NFL is

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Speaker 3: going through a bit of a sea change right now

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Speaker 3: with the way teams are built.

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Speaker 4: I don't it's unsustainable.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tom Brady was never the highest paid quarterback, never once.

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Speaker 1: That's a great yeah, never. Tom Brady was never the

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Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback. So you have to make decisions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Stafford is the biggest cap hit playing this

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Speaker 1: weekend after Josh Allen the other.

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Speaker 3: One, and listen, you know we love him. If Justin

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Speaker 3: Herbert loses, he will then fall to zero to three

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Remember Dan Reno or Peyton Manning famously

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Speaker 3: could not win a playoff game to save his life early.

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Speaker 3: But I do think if the Chargers lose and Herbert's

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Speaker 3: not great, Oh Justin Herbert seed is not that good,

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Speaker 3: can't win a playoff game? That what's for that narrative

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Speaker 3: to emerge. I think the Chargers are gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that Chargers win eleven and six with

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Speaker 1: the lowest rated offensive line in the league. It's not

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Speaker 1: like it's good against it's not good in pass protection.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty two and thirty one. It's no team since

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Speaker 1: PFF has started ranking a lines has ever won a

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Speaker 1: playoff game with an offensive line as bad as the

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Speaker 1: LA Charger.

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Speaker 3: The way, if the Chargers win that game, they will

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Speaker 3: then go to Denver next.

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Speaker 1: Think about this yeah, okay, they beat Denver once and

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Speaker 1: the Remax.

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Speaker 3: Last week they played all backups and it was nip

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Speaker 3: and tuck. Denver couldn't score with their start bow Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Who's watching on TV this weekend? His cap pit is

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Speaker 1: seven percent of Josh Allen's cap pit. Well, why is

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Speaker 1: Denver's roster so good? There you go, who's got the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Denver's O line, Denver's D line, Denver secondary

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Speaker 1: you know, all right, Yeah, last hour of the week

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Speaker 1: coming up, and maybe we just saved best for a laugh.

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Speaker 1: Why not