WEBVTT - Rick Wilson & Micah Lasher 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.800 today's best minds, and a CBS you gov poll has 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.400 Trump at his lowest approval rating of thirty seven percent. 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.439 We have such a great show for you today. The 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.480 Lincoln Project's own Rick Wilson joins us to discuss Senator 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.560 Bill Cassidy losing his Senate seat and what it means 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:32.960 for trumps support. Ben We'll talk to Assemblyman Michael Lasher 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.519 about why he thinks he's the candidate to choose in 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:42.160 New York twelfth's crowded congressional race. But first the News. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.520 Molly that this was a really good article on NBC News. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.520 It's entailed what GOP officials are hopeful and worried about 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.479 six months from the mid terms, because I think we 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.080 don't often get that perspective. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.080 Yeah, so b, It's actually a really smart way to go. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.319 NBC News no longer a part of MS now loved 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:04.800 them anyway. NBC News spoke to roughly thirty Republican National 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.319 Committee members and GOP activists around the country. We saw 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.160 Politico Playbook did this the other day where they talked 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:18.560 to a very big guy from the Trump administration who 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.640 is going onto the campaign side, and he basically said 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.720 he's totally convinced that they're going to win and they're 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.400 the best, which seemed very trumpy. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.280 That felt more like spin. This felt a little more honest. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.800 And you know why it's honest because you're not getting 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.480 anyone's names, Whereas with James Blair from the White House, 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.319 you've got his name, and you've got Trump who's you 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.040 know who might see that, whereas here nobody's giving their names. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:50.640 And so they said they see reason for optimism, Okay, 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.600 and what is that optimism? They think there's optimism because 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.080 everybody who does use their name does actually say that 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.320 everything's going to be right. Who is delivering real results 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.520 for the American people? Says Joseph would char Of, the 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.840 chair of the Arkansas Republican Party. President Trump's administration has 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:16.960 already run circles around failed President Biden. Okay, Joseph, I 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.480 want whatever you're smoking, you know. So there's a lot 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.800 of that. And then some of them are saying that 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.760 because the redistricting, they might win, which is what we 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:32.080 call cheating. In case you're wondering, a North Carolina Republican 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.840 said we stopped the largest tax increase in American history. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.200 I mean, I guess it's sort of true that his 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.040 tax cut would have expired, but the rn C refused 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.120 to comment. You know, we're in the third month of 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.160 the Iranian War, and there's been a real divide between 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:54.639 America Firsters and Trumpy Trumpers. So that's a real split 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.920 for them, you know, and Trump has been like a 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.800 little involved, but mostly in trying to go off enemies, 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.639 so I think, and you know, whenever Trump starts talking 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.920 about the midterms on social when he starts posing about them, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.920 he basically says that they have to pass the same 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.120 America Act so that they can so that make it 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.560 harder for people to vote, which I think is a 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.040 pretty good sign that he is a little bit worried 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.680 about what's coming down the pike. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.680 Yep, we saw Governor Jared Poulis, who, while they have 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.160 a democratded next to their name, is long thought to 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.840 be much more of a libertarian Democrat, part in election, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:39.160 denier and mischief maker. To put it nicely, Tina Peters, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.800 this says people very very very very bad, and I 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:43.480 would agree. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:50.640 So the governor of Colorado. Jared Paulis is going to 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:56.920 release Tina Peters from jail. And I think that what's 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:01.480 important here is Tina Peters did a lot of crimes, 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.560 election crimes, and Polis is going to commute her sentence. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.560 She's serving a nine year sentence, Like this is not 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.520 some minor thing, right, she tried. Trump had wanted him 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:20.359 to pardon her, and he's like cutting Colorado's federal funds 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.640 in order to make Polis partner her. Like it's a 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:30.320 real blackmail stuff and it's really bad that he's doing it, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.960 But I bet what happened was he felt like he 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.760 had to in order to get the money for Colorado. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.000 This is not how the federal government is supposed to 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.800 work any which way. It was a I think it's 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.280 a huge mistake to do it that way. Pardoning her 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.520 was terrible because it's sense of precedent. But I certainly 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.159 could see how it happened, and I could see like 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.680 Polus being set being in a situation where there was 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.800 just nothing where he had sort of no choices. But 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.760 I still think, like he's going to to regret this. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.279 We're all going to regret this, and you know, again, 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.760 like we are still cruising into this midterm cycle, and 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.919 while it looks like it may be okay, it's still 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.560 far from We're still far from sure that this is 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.080 every that everything here is going to be fine. It 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:23.080 seems like a really dicey moment for American democracy, and 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.520 the idea that a democratic governor would pardon someone who's 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:30.240 done election crimes is pretty dark. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:36.080 Yeah, so we are now seeing a big reaction also 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.440 to another governor, Abigail Spinberger down in Virginia. There are 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.919 a lot of people who feel like she's giving up 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.720 the fight on redistricting a little fast after some court losses. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.560 She could in fact take this to the Supreme Court, 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.200 and I'm not entirely sure why she wouldn't. Now, the 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.720 Supreme Court is filled with partisan hacks, but you'll remember 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:03.680 the very conservative of Virginia court, filled with Republicans, voted 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.800 it down. But she can still take it up, and 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:12.320 she seems like she's not wanting to. This Supreme Court 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.800 has thwrown out this demended constitution which people voted for, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.920 and the referendum costs Democrats seventy million, and they really 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.400 did play by the rules to get over lined. I 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:28.400 still think that Democrats will ultimately win. Again. This is 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:33.719 this thing with asymmetrical warfare, where Democrats refuse to play 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.800 in the same way that Republicans do. And so you 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.080 have these Republican governors like the governor of Louisiana who's 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:45.080 very maga and he's doing stuff like redistricting when people 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.880 are already voting in the primaries, and then your democratic 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.359 governors refusing to do that. And the incentive structure is 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:58.480 now that Republicans behave in a way that's anti democratic, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.680 and that's just it, you know, that's just what's expected 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.440 of them, and Democrats still follow the rules. And you 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:10.600 know what will happen eventually if this doesn't get rectified, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.000 and it may not. If it doesn't get rectified, then 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:18.720 Democrats will ultimately be what's happening really now, which is 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.880 they won't be operating in the same political universe as Republicans, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.800 and that will mean that Democrats will play by the 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.400 rules and Republicans will cheat. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.600 So interesting thing. You know, when Trump first got into office, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.840 we talked a lot about Alligator Alcatraz and this was 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:41.760 their big, big own, the Libs saying about how much 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.640 the cruelty is going to be awesome. Well it looks 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:45.480 like it's over with. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.200 Some of these really dumb ideas. It's funny because Alligator 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:55.880 Alcatraz was little death camps they built in the Everglades, 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.800 and it was where they were going to send migrants 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.000 some migrants there. It was hot, it was shitty, and 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:08.400 it cost It was so expensive. And by the way, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.200 my favorite part is as they're closing it, Ron DeSantis says, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.800 we save taxpayer money. No, honey, you didn't. And in fact, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:21.880 so the total spent on an Alligator Alcatraz and Deportation 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:28.040 Depot Depot, Florida's other state run detention centers, is at 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:32.160 least four hundred and sixty million dollars. The highest bill, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.920 ninety two million, went to Duty Calls, a portable toilet 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:42.960 and sanitation company. So basically, they spent like hundreds of 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.720 millions of dollars and more than a million dollars a day. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.400 The Agency PROTECT projected the center would cost one point 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.440 one billion. By June twenty twenty six, they spent four 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:58.800 hundred thousand dollars to Taser or International. I mean, like, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.600 you look at this spending and you are like, what 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.600 the fuck, what the fuck? 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:10.120 So this is giving Putin's Russia grafted a real run 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:11.000 for its money. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.400 I mean, it's what we call fraud, waste and abuse. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:15.680 Perhaps you've heard of it. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.160 Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's familiar. Why does it suff 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:18.800 so familiar? 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.440 I don't know. I just I think Just Dance is 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:30.240 doing it right now. Hey, it's Molly john Fast here. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.760 My memoir, How to Lose Your Mother is out now 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.360 on paperback, arriving just ahead of Mother's Day. How to 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.320 Lose Your Mother has garnered a lot of praise from 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:45.000 Good Morning America, then Your Times, Book Review, Vogue, Vanity Fair, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.920 and a lot of other outlets Washington Post. The book 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.080 is about what it's like to be part of the 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.960 Sandwich generation, to take care of your mother and your children. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.800 And I talk about being a mother and a daughter 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.040 and the relationship I have with my mother and all 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:09.360 of its complexities. It's funny and it's fraught, and it's sad, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.240 and it's about life. My story, this story, the story 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.600 of How to Lose Your Mother, follows a year in 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.040 which my mother, Erica Johng, is diagnosed with dementia, my 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.680 husband faces a life threatening illness, and what unfolds is 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.280 a really honest story about what happens when the shit 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.400 hits the fan and everything goes wrong. As The Washington 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.320 Post said, the book is filled with lines so good 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.959 you won't just want to underline them. It's a memoir 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:43.280 that continues to resonate, so please pick it up. Rick 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.320 Wilson is the founder of The Lincoln Project and the 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.560 host of the Lincoln Project podcast. Rick Wilson by John 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:54.200 Fast How are you Oh? Every day is another day 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:55.840 of everything. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.240 Fun, bridal, joy and pleasure. 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.520 Everything Trump touches die. Now it has. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.280 Been said to be the case that everything Trump touches dies. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:09.880 And the Louisiana Primary edition so amazing that Saturday Louisiana 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.480 has a primary. It is no longer a jungle primary. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:16.720 It is a one party Republican primary. It is you'll 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.280 notice there's not a congressional primary that day because the 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:25.640 governor of Louisiana, who is a big Trump humper, decides 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:30.360 that he's going to redistrict because the Donald Trump Supreme 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:35.679 Court has killed the Voting Rights Act. So I'm just 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.280 going to set you up for this. We have John, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:44.840 we have Bill Cassidy. He votes to confirm RFK Junior 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.720 despite the fact that he's a doctor. And then he 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:54.280 comes in not first, not second, but third in his 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:55.760 primary to keep his seat. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.520 All these people that go to these MAGA rallies, they've 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.760 heard that thing about the snake thousand times, right, they've 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.599 heard that the thing about the snake. You knew I 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.880 was a stake before he took me in. Bill Cassidy 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.680 should have known that the minute he voted to impeach 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.880 Trump after January sixth, that he would never be forgiven 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.880 and that in and Trump is a terrible president. He 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.319 is deeply, wildly unpopular in the country. He is failing 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.679 in every axis. But Molly, he still has a hypnotic 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.720 control over the Republican base, and they are going to 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.280 go out and do what he tells them. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.400 Yeah, and so you know. And by the way, the. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.679 Other thing about about about voting for RFK, that's ironic 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.400 for Cassidy. Casey Means, who runs the MAHA super Pack, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.200 went out and up to a million dollars against Cassidy 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.319 even though he voted to confirm RFK, because. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.040 He voted not to confirm. 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:50.480 Correct, these people, these Republicans, you can make one of 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:55.200 two choices. You can choose exile with honor or, you 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.199 can choose eventually being eaten by the alligator. And I 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.320 mean this, just this week, You've got Lauren Bobert. Okay, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.319 now on the wrong side of Trump. Now he's trying 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.000 to get somebody to primary Lauren Bobert. It goes off. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.920 Why is he mad at Lauren Bobert. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.199 I don't even know Molly. It could be anything. I mean, 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.760 she's not blonde enough. Who knows. But nothing about this 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.559 should surprise any single Republican. They all of them, they 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.920 drive by the car, crash, they go, that'll ever be me. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.679 Trump loves me. I'm never going to get on the 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.040 wrong side of Trump. And if you do not display 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.840 one hundred percent utter devotion at all times, he will 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.680 turn the base against them and destroy them. And look, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.120 it's okay with me. I want them to be stuck 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.319 with him this point. I want them to be stuck 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.160 in the in the hole with him at this point. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:48.280 I'm hot, take hot take. The only way when Trump 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.280 comes after you like this to survive is what Zoran 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.880 did is to have game Like I think so much 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.960 about Zoran versus least of honor, Okay, at least Dephonic 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.200 bounced scrapes, gets put up for a job, gets taken 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.400 down for a job, back and forth. In the end, 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:15.520 he refuses to endorse her talk about that Trump has Trump. 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.800 Grew up in the culture of New York celebrity of 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.920 page six. You could have a mistake, you could do 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.560 something wrong. As long as you can build up some 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.640 idea that you had star power or charisma or presence 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.920 or game or game, you were gonna be Okay. He 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.840 looks at mom Damie and says, that guy has charisma, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.560 that guy has game. You look at Alista Fanic is 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.680 like the female Ron de Santis. Okay, I think that's 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:47.120 charismo whatsoever? Zero charisma, Like no one wakes up and 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.280 goes man, that's the most compelling person I've ever met. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.000 Yeah, Trump, if Bill casting. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.040 Him out there swinging it around and being a big 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.680 character instead of like, I'm just a doc from Louisiana, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.320 I'm gonna do the best for my people. If it 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.720 had been like, yeah, whatever, fuck yourself, Donald, go for it. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.440 You ain't gonna come down here and fuck with me. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.240 If he had done that, Trump is a is kind 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:12.200 of a pussy, he's kind of a week guy. And 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.680 and if he had done that. It might not have worked, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.440 but it would have at least made Trump like skip 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.720 a beat. He would have like been uh oh uh oh, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.240 this guy's not given in, which is what Tom Massey 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.800 is doing, which is like right in his face. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.360 And that's gonna be. So next week is the Tom 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.280 mass in prime. Stay, we'll see, Yeah, is it Tuesday, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.840 So we'll see if he survives, if he wins, he. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:38.920 Is if he wins, if he wins, And look, I 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.640 can tell you I heard from somebody last late last 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.480 week that they are pouring in resources into this race 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.960 that that that other Republican candidates will need later in 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:47.680 the year won't have. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:48.920 So I'm fine with that. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.520 But they have gone a four Republicans who is pouring 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.320 into money to. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.440 Republican super PACs or pouring money in against Massy to 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.800 make Trump happy. Wow, Spending millions and millions and millions 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.000 in millions of dollars in a congressional race that they 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:04.960 won't have in the budget later in the year to 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:10.480 defeat Democrats looks good with me. But yeah, I mean, look, 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:15.120 Massy has Massy is very iconoclastic. He has a personality. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.720 He has a bigger character than Bill Cassid dead. But look, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.640 I go back on this again and again. Bill Cassidy 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.520 should have understood that the only way to separate yourself 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:31.400 from the vulnerable maga herd is to go out and 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.960 build a bigger legend. Yeah yeah, and and go out 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.200 and and frame it like if Trump, if Trump loses this, 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.560 it's all all that stuff could have been done psychologically 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.360 because Trump is vulnerable to psychological warfare, as we all know. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.760 But you know, he proved it in Indiana, and he 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.160 proved it again in Louisiana. The Republican base voters and those, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:53.960 by the way, the ones that are voting out in 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.320 these off year or excuse me, you know off the 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.200 early primaries and all that stuff. Those people are the 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.480 hardest core of the hardcore. They're the cuckoos. Okay, they're 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.720 the they're the they're the wack a doodles. But they 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.200 came out and voted in a a in a Saturday primary. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.800 And I mean it also, I mean. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.639 Closed primary, by the way, closed primary. They changed it 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.840 from open to closed primary. 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.120 So you didn't so in an open primary he would 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.439 have had a much better shot. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.800 Be curc Cassie always won by crossover. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:27.280 Democratic votes right, So right now that I'm just trying 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.960 to look up the polling on UH to see whether 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.760 Massy what Massy looks like in these polls. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:36.480 It's it's closer. 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.200 It's been closing up because I think the negatives have 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.119 started to have a pretty strong effect on Massy. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.600 But I will say this, I will say this. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.640 The real reason we all know, the real reason he's 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.720 against MASSI it's Epstein, right, and and yeah, Trump hasn't 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.240 figured this out yet. Okay, you defeat Thomas Massey. So 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.639 for the rest of this year, he's a suicide bomber 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.480 on Epstein every day. Oh yeah, it goes out and 0:17:58.520 --> 0:17:59.960 reads names in the congressional record. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.160 What are you going to do? Fire him? 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:06.159 Yeah? And I actually think that while Cassidy will not 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:12.359 be a well, Cassidy will not be a firebomber is 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.560 suicide bomber. Massy will be right. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.399 But here's the thing. I think Cassidy will look a 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:19.840 lot like Tom Tillis. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.439 Right. Well, you'll get a little bit of it where. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.399 He'll he'll he'll blue card if you of the appointees 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.639 that are coming. He's not going to be an instant, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:32.040 reliable vote. And I have heard also that Cassidy repeatedly 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.119 went to Thune and said, the NRSC is supposed to 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.320 protect incumbents. What the fuck are you doing? Why aren't 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.199 you helping me? And they went hammaahammahammada. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.520 Trump, Yeah, Thune is really, if. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.639 You're not going to protect your incumbents, you're going to 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.160 lose your leadership and how hard rule. 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.920 And part of this race that is we need to 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.800 talk about is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and 0:18:55.880 --> 0:19:00.720 other pro Israel groups have uncorked nine million. So it's 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.400 not just Republicans. And you'll remember that Massey is super 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.200 against foreign wars like that, huh his thing. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.679 So it's not even it's not even a right massive 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.760 Massi is one of these guys you comes from that. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:13.560 Ron Paul. 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.120 Yeah, he's a libertarian Ron Paul like tradition of wrong 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.000 foreign involvement is wrong. We've got to do war powers 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.800 if we're going to do this, And he's not incorrect 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.520 in the in the in the case of this war 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:26.960 against Iran, we are. 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:28.520 Violating the law right now. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.920 Yeah, Trump is saying, oh, we're on a We're on 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.240 a It's like we're on a break. Really, so what 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:34.800 you tell all your girlfriends. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.760 Doll because no, I mean, here's the problem. And I 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:39.920 think you and I can agree on this. As someone 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.000 who's very anti war, the worry I have with some 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.960 of these anti war Republicans, and it's certainly the worry 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.360 that I have with Tuckercalls, and not necessarily the worry 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.480 I have with Thomas Massey, but certainly the worry I 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.359 have with Grand Paul is that there's a there's a 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:55.560 deep antisemon. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:55.840 You know. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.440 It's one thing to be against foreign wars. It's another 0:19:58.520 --> 0:19:59.960 thing to not want to give any money. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:01.040 Did you right? 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.119 And look, look you are seeing. While there is an 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.639 element in the progressive side of the Democratic Party now, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.960 not a majority, but an element of anti Semitism. Now 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.800 it has become a defining characteristic of a rising cohort 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.000 in the Republican Party, specially eighteen to thirty year old 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.880 men who aren't just like I disagree with the policies 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.119 of the Yahoo administration. 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.600 It's like that the Jews burn. It's not good. 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.159 It's not good. And so when we talk about the 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.000 mass he race, we have to talk about all the 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.920 different proxies that are trading in it. But I do 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.520 think it's a very interesting moment. And as someone who 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.440 because we've been talking about this guy for so long, 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.200 it's interesting to me to see, like what can survive 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:51.119 in Trump two point zero and what can right? You know, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:52.520 talk to me about that. 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:56.640 Look, the number one thing that Donald Trump wants, number 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:58.920 two thing donald Trump wants, Number ten thing donald Trump 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:04.840 wants is obedient. He is about one hundred percent blind obedience, 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.119 even in seats that are in danger. He doesn't care 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.480 if you cross him, doesn't matter. So you got Brian 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.880 Fitzpatrick last week who's against the ballroom, and now Baga 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.720 is turning onto the Jihad to try to get rid 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.840 of him, and they'll lose that seat. They'll lose that. 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.800 Seat if if, if he takes a lot of political 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:26.719 damage from his own side, and he's gonna do it, 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.080 he's gonna they're gonna hurt him, and they're gonna try 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.040 to punish him to prove that if you cross Trump 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.960 on any issue ever, you cannot disagree with him. You cannot, 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.520 you cannot. You have to play the Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, JD. 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.600 Van's game of mister President. You're so right, And I 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.000 was hoping that I could offer you the slightest, tiniest 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.840 hint of a suggestion that if I may lick your boots, sir, 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.560 then perhaps you would consider the humble of blah blah 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:52.480 blah balance. 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:59.159 Right, But it is interesting to watch like this administration 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.679 with the ballroom because so the Senate parliamentarian was like, 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.080 I'm sorry, So the way they're trying to do this 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.920 is they're trying to put it in this package called 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:17.280 uh reparation. No, not reparation. Yeah, somebody Saturday Live, this 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.360 group right Saturday A Live was talking about how uh Iran, 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.960 the Iranians were not getting reparations. Like they were like, 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:29.800 here's what you're not getting. It's called, uh, what's it 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:34.240 called when you're when you do it that way? Recision recision, right, 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:38.600 the recisions package package. So there's recision package. It's meant 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:42.560 to be about the budget. And in this budget is 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:46.720 a billion dollars for ballroom. And the Senate parliamentarian, the 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:51.119 same one who said you can't forgive student loans, that 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.320 same one said no billion dollars from right. 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.959 And here's the other part of this that that, as 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.840 as as Ray pointed out to me, the arch they 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.320 started moving construction equipment to build the arch. Yeah, they're 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.320 also counting that under the ballroom budget now, and it's like, no, 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.720