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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for a day? Ato steak

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<v Speaker 2>is that woo woof?

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<v Speaker 1>And them and tie Welcome back to the ceburb of

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<v Speaker 1>boys and Girls. My name is ty Hil the brand

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<v Speaker 1>joining me as always over there in sunny in spring,

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<v Speaker 1>downright summary Chicago, Illinois, and Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good. I attempted to go for a run

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<v Speaker 2>earlier today and then my foot hurt and I went

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<v Speaker 2>for a walk, which might be some sort of nice

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<v Speaker 2>allegory to a story that we could compare to.

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<v Speaker 1>One of these teams coaches in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Progress report episode that I'm very excited to do, just

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<v Speaker 2>because when we were talking about what we were going

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<v Speaker 2>to do earlier, I got to use the word technodrone,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't always get to do that when planning

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<v Speaker 2>an episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm in a good mood tech no dron. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into that momentarily, but in the meantime, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the show. I am ty he is Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been doing an off topic show per month, the

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<v Speaker 1>third Friday, I think of every month, and we've wanted

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<v Speaker 1>We did all sorts of fun stuff with him in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. We've got the Off Topic Show with Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Barnwell slated for this week. Our topic is.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineties sports kid movies.

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<v Speaker 1>The Heyday? The Heyday? So, what are some topics for

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<v Speaker 1>you that you want to broach here? We get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk like some sandalot here, Mighty Ducks, anything you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna hit some tropes like the flawed

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<v Speaker 2>Coach is a big one, the Gordon Bombay, the what

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<v Speaker 2>the o'sha brothers and little Giants. There's all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>flawed head coaches because this was if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>kids movies, especially in the nineties, it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of kids are the smart ones and doing the adults

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what they're doing. And I'm very excited for

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<v Speaker 2>an episode where we get to the say things like

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<v Speaker 2>that with Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Com patreons. Okay, all that being said, Dan, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a another one of those deals where the show came

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<v Speaker 1>together mere hours before we hit the record button.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't it be weird though, if we did an off

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<v Speaker 2>season show where we had planned it days and like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no sports podcast that's timely ish. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>are shows like thirty for thirty and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 2>that spend a ton of time crafting episodes. But it

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<v Speaker 2>would be very strange if we pulled this episode together

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<v Speaker 2>last Thursday, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be it would be that said, we are

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<v Speaker 1>working on some things in the sOliver bol abortree which

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<v Speaker 1>we aren't ready to take the bubble bubble wrap off

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<v Speaker 1>of yet. Excuse me, but yes, this show came together

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<v Speaker 1>as of about ten thirty this morning when you and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a phone call and we centered around this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of progress reports. Dan, what was the final version

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<v Speaker 1>of this show that we agreed on.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're doing progress reports on what will be third

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<v Speaker 2>year head coaches. Guys like Mike Loxley or Dana Holgerson

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<v Speaker 2>or Ryan Day, guys enter their third year in that

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<v Speaker 2>they had one quote unquote normal year in twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>and then whatever twenty twenty was, and now they get

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<v Speaker 2>to move forward and to hopefully a year that resembles

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<v Speaker 2>more of what we consider be normal in the college

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<v Speaker 2>football universe. So we've got some G five guys, We've

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<v Speaker 2>got some Power five guys, and we are just going

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't know how we're going to grade the trajectory.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we could talk about launch angles. If we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to mix sports, we can talk about lob wedges

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<v Speaker 2>and drivers. If we want to stay timely with the masters.

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<v Speaker 2>I just use the word technodrone when talking about this,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's at least one program here. There has to

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<v Speaker 2>be that each of us says they're just digging themselves

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<v Speaker 2>underground with how they're handling things. So I have what

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<v Speaker 2>eight names here? We can discuss all of them, some

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<v Speaker 2>of them more than just these eight names. We can

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever we want, but I couldn't think of a

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<v Speaker 2>really good cartoon. Is like I know, Captain Planet sort

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<v Speaker 2>of launched into space. So if we want to name

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<v Speaker 2>one of these guys Captain Planet and one of these

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<v Speaker 2>are technodrone or a krayng, I did pull a crang

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<v Speaker 2>sound for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have it here. If we want to use it,

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<v Speaker 1>think about Ampty prom I heard alls. Yeah, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>underwhelming krang on my end. So here's what I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have Mike Loxley, I have Chris Climb, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have Dana Holgerson, Scott Saderfield, Jamie Chadwell, Will Healey, Jeff Collins,

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, those are eight that stood out to me, that

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to you, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe on our next Q and A if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to give us another soon to be third year head

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<v Speaker 2>coach to discuss and the program's trajectory right now in

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<v Speaker 2>this offseason, in the middle of spring, heading into I

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<v Speaker 2>guess summer workouts in fall camp, we'll be happy to

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no way we can fit all of the

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<v Speaker 2>third year coaches into a single episode. But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk trajectory and progress report progress reports. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>get progress reports in high school where you sent home

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<v Speaker 2>grades between report cards?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like in elementary school. We were in elementary school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the the I think the OS and U scale.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that might have been our report cards. I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a long time ago, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, yes, we were giving progress reports.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I definitely was. In high school. There was like

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<v Speaker 2>mid semester report cards called progress reports. At one point

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<v Speaker 2>I did I did for just signature. I did for

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<v Speaker 2>just signature that said I was doing totally good in

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<v Speaker 2>English and I was, I was fine, whatever I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I misspelled the word Eileen, and my mom was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>never never seen anybody spell Eileen with two l's. So

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't go that well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I would think English should be a

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<v Speaker 1>strong suit for you. What happened, you would think?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I panicked under pressure. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get something down here, and I went with Eileen

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<v Speaker 2>two l's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All right, Well we're going to get into eight coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to start? I guess the Jetsons are

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<v Speaker 1>a cartoon spaceship right, sure, now it's thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with Mike Loxley, Michael Angelo Locksley. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the technodrone, let's talk about I mean, it's Fear

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<v Speaker 2>the Turtle.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's Fear the.

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<v Speaker 2>Teenage mutant Ninja turtles and Maryland's kind of fascinating in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty eighteen was an interim situation. Matt Canada takes over

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<v Speaker 2>for DJ Diurkin, who suspended and eventually fired, and they

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a pretty entertaining season. There were three points

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<v Speaker 2>away from going seven to five, but they opt to

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<v Speaker 2>not take the interim tag off of Matt Canada. They

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<v Speaker 2>hire Mike Loxley, fresh out of a lot of success

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<v Speaker 2>at Alabama, and they've struggled. I think it's fair to

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<v Speaker 2>say Maryland has, but it looks like there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after last year they ran the ball really well with

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<v Speaker 2>Jake funk and they've recruited pretty well potential game changers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess I turned the question to you. Is

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<v Speaker 2>Maryland a team with an impressive or an encouraging trajectory?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see this as a straight line? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>see this as a technodrone situation and a tough division?

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you stand on the trajectory of the mics

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<v Speaker 2>The Mike Locksley knows the DMV Maryland.

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<v Speaker 1>Therapists, we were pretty plugged into the Mike Locksley higher

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<v Speaker 1>right from the jump because that was a fantasy thing's

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<v Speaker 1>how of course, fantasy thing's item. How Mike Loxley knows

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<v Speaker 1>the DMV, He's going to take advantage of it. He

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<v Speaker 1>loves a DMV.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most explosive teams. Yeah, in a limited

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<v Speaker 2>college football twenty twenty, it was sort of all or

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<v Speaker 2>nothing passing, but the defense definitely looked improved through the air,

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<v Speaker 2>So there are signs. They also lost an embarrassing fashion

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<v Speaker 2>more than once last year, and they turned the ball

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<v Speaker 2>over a lot, Yes, they did. Their plus minus was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty bad, but okay, so here's where we're at with

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<v Speaker 2>Locksley three and nine the first year, two and three,

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<v Speaker 2>this past year in the weird COVID year. The couple

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<v Speaker 2>things that jump out to me. Though I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like we saw improvement on a couple

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<v Speaker 2>different fronts over this past season. Only played five games again,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like they were trending in a good

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<v Speaker 2>direction there. They did have a top twenty recruiting class

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<v Speaker 2>during the twenty twenty one recruiting cycle, which, yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>sort of in line with the Minnesotas in Iowa's right

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<v Speaker 2>now in the Big ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which should should not be overlooked. I also feel

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<v Speaker 1>like in the twenty cycle getting the top player in

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland Rakeen Jared rakeem Jared excuse me? Who was the

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<v Speaker 1>top player in the state of Maryland? Awesome wide out

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty three targets this past season. Wasn't the guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't the guy? Miss was the guy? Yeah, wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>guy yet, but still I feel like getting a guy

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<v Speaker 1>of that caliber is hopefully a harbinger of what's to

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<v Speaker 1>come for Locksley again in the DMV and area that

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<v Speaker 1>he knows well and wren and raised all that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the great recruit out of Florida this past year too, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the number one inside linebacker in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is that is reason for optimism.

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<v Speaker 1>The most obvious obstacle, though, is the side of the

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<v Speaker 1>division that they're in. Yep, It's just it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>hard to really take any giant step forward unless you

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<v Speaker 1>can pick one of those off. Now, maybe Michigan State

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<v Speaker 1>falls down. They've been up there the last few seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly above Maryland. Maybe they fall down now because of

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<v Speaker 1>some of their turnover. Who knows what the future holds

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<v Speaker 1>for Michigan and Penn State. I don't think Ohio State's

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<v Speaker 1>really in any danger of falling down. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Maryland fan, if you're looking at Mike Loxley,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to analyze a trajectory, they did beat

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State last year. Penn State was a mess, but

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<v Speaker 1>still Maryland had lost the previous season to Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>by a fifty nine to nil score. Getting one on

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<v Speaker 1>the board against Penn State's a big deal and that's helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is trending in a good direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say it's like a ninety degree

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<v Speaker 1>launch angle where we're launching to the moon, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like there is enough of a steady drum beat

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<v Speaker 1>going in a good direction that I'm encouraged by what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done so far. So I feel pretty good about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel bowl good about Maryland as a program

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward, because that's where we, I think are expectation

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<v Speaker 2>wise with Maryland.

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<v Speaker 1>All good? Bowl good.

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<v Speaker 2>So they go what two and three, So that's bowlish

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<v Speaker 2>losing my forty and then beating Minnesota and Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>You beat Minnesota and Penn State, and I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>did lose to Rutgers. So I think bolish is the

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<v Speaker 2>expectation that they're like somewhere between five and seven and

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<v Speaker 2>seven and five, depending on a couple of breaks like

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<v Speaker 2>we had in twenty eighteen, the overtime loss to Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State by one, and then who do they lose too close?

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<v Speaker 2>They lost to somebody very close, Indiana, I believe. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the conversation right now in terms of success, in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the talent they're bringing in. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the reunion of Ron Zuck and Mike Loxley

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<v Speaker 2>going back to Illinois, so there's that. So they should

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<v Speaker 2>be the talent levels should continually should continually improve in

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<v Speaker 2>College Park. I there are twenty twenty one schedules little

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<v Speaker 2>it's brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at it right now. I see four obvious

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<v Speaker 1>wins and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even who are youre for because Kent State

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<v Speaker 2>can bomb it, dude, Kent State can bomb it really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Rutgers is probably not a sure thing at this Spicure's

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<v Speaker 1>lost to them. Yeah, no, this schedule is not great.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty one, the October and then first week of November. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>they beat Penn State last year, so we got to

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<v Speaker 2>give them credit for that if we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about them losing to Rutgers. But after Kent State in

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<v Speaker 2>late September, it's Iowa, Ohio State, Minnesota, Indiana, Penn State consecutively,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever it is that you believe about Michigan State

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<v Speaker 2>and Michigan after that. So it's it's a lot of gas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of gas in the middle of that schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's you gotta beat Yeah, I guess you have

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<v Speaker 2>to beat Howard. You have to beat Illinois, and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what Illinois will look like in week three.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess of brett Ilama, it's hard to find a

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<v Speaker 2>bowl in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't see the path. I don't see the path.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not obvious anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Talia has to be great. He has to cut way

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<v Speaker 2>back down on the interceptions. The receivers have to be

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<v Speaker 2>really good. They have to get better upfront on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>So trajectory wise, what are you giving me? You want

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<v Speaker 2>to give me a launch angle? The higher the better?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So from what zero to ninety? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are they are they digging underground.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit? They're not digging underground.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think they're not technodrone adjacent?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no, okay, Oh man, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>guess skimming forty five would be like average, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Forty five is a bowl game?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll say like thirty. I got twenty five? What

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, Yeah, it's it's hard to go

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<v Speaker 1>above that looking at the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Funk was really good last year. He got finally

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<v Speaker 2>got healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One thing I brought up great had a hair

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, too, terrific head of hair. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>I brought up with you earlier. And this is silly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need to bring it up now because it's

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<v Speaker 1>our damn show. Has nobody ever referred to Maryland as

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<v Speaker 1>a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles like a really young team

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<v Speaker 1>either in basketball or in football. I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>ever hears.

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<v Speaker 2>Too mouthy, tie, it's too wordy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just a Ninja Turtles, I think. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>copyright issues there. I mean, Fear the Turtle is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Fear the Turtle improve saying no, No, I always approve

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<v Speaker 1>Fear the Turtle. I've the turtle in my personal life.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, have we never used Ninja Turtles?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I don't think so. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>this makes Mike Loxley master splinter. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>we are with that comparison, But no, I haven't. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen it. Although they did. There was a terp

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<v Speaker 2>that was mutant mutated. It seemed like a Toka Raizar situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's in the direction.

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<v Speaker 1>When do I play the crank sound again? Do I

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<v Speaker 1>just play it for each guy or just ad will?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay, I like the sound even if

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't quite fit. That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all we care about.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, let's go to Chris Climban. Let's Chris Climbon

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<v Speaker 1>eight and five, year one, four and six, four and six.

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<v Speaker 1>This past year, Chris Climbon comes down to Manhattan, Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>from North Dakota State where he went sixty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>six and five seasons. Nice beat Oklahoma two straight years,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is very notable. It's an incredibly small

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<v Speaker 1>sample size, but it does feel like recruiting is headed

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<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. You know. I feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>signed a blue chip quarterback, so there's that, Yeah, signed

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<v Speaker 1>the Baker quarterback. Probably. I feel like for Climbing specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>recruiting may be kind of like a bad metric to

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<v Speaker 1>look at. It's always important, but Chris climb In, especially

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<v Speaker 1>at North Dakota State, very good at just getting whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he could maximizing production out of the talent that was

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<v Speaker 1>at his disposal to the extent where you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>built a bit of a powerhouse. He took that over,

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<v Speaker 1>but he kept the plane in the air, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were really really good in his time there. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>them firsthand. I think he's a perfect fit for Case

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<v Speaker 1>State in that regard, because this is not a place

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever going to get a ton of blue chip talent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just not. They're going to get one one guy

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<v Speaker 1>every now and again, and they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>make do with three stars, with two stars and the white. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>if he can get the most production possible out of

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<v Speaker 1>those kids and continue to maximize their ability, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you need a Case State. So I feel really

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<v Speaker 1>good about what he's done because these are teams that

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<v Speaker 1>seem pretty well disciplined, They play hard. They obviously beat

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma two years running. This feels like it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be a higher launch angle, if only because they've already

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<v Speaker 1>been to a Bowl game under his tenure, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he catched the big twelve in the right spot. Could

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<v Speaker 1>a Case State win like nine ten games? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not this coming year, but it's certainly foreseeable for me.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to return to the warm embrace of eight

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<v Speaker 2>and four. They're an eight and four program, which is terrific,

0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.520
<v Speaker 2>which is very good if you're a perennial Boll team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a terrific place to be if expectations are not

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<v Speaker 2>to be in a New Year six game every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, which Kansas State has been, but with

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma looking like they're only trending upward, with Iowa State

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<v Speaker 2>now probably at its peak, which is contending for the

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<v Speaker 2>conference most years, Kansas State's in a nice position. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to fully look at twenty twenty with Skyler Thompson

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<v Speaker 2>going down the way that they did, and they still

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<v Speaker 2>were obviously right there for against Oklahoma State and Baylor

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<v Speaker 2>with a pretty underwhelming, to be kind, passing game with

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<v Speaker 2>Will Howard, So it was sort of a feast but

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<v Speaker 2>largely famine offense once Skyler Thompson went down.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know you're gonna rely on development. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna rely on keeping guys in the program and developing

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<v Speaker 2>them and starting them as upperclassmen, and you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>beating teams with talent and town alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Trajectory is good. I don't think. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, sixty degrees, fifty two degrees, something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, where there seems to be a definitive ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>unless a quarterback is you know, special, unless he's El Roberson,

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<v Speaker 2>unless he's Callin Kleine.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys like that. Skyler Thompson's good, he's better than Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>but seems to lose games he shouldn't and Kansas State should.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're just going to cruise along. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>a rocket ship, but just it's a winning program. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think the trajectory is good. They're nowhere near a technodrone.

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<v Speaker 2>They have that floor, probably, but no, I see this

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<v Speaker 2>as a team that's just gonna keep going to bowl

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<v Speaker 2>games and it's it's impressive. It's just impressive football year

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<v Speaker 2>and in, year out, and hopefully the offense continues to

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<v Speaker 2>move forward creatively and put the most exciting five foot

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:29.840
<v Speaker 2>five tall duce van Is into a great all purpose

0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.280
<v Speaker 2>position every week. If that's the case, the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 2>has a good but not great Oklahoma State team, a

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<v Speaker 2>changing Texas team that should be pretty good, to TCU

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<v Speaker 2>team that's a wild card West Virginia that we hope improves,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's nothing. It's not a killer team. Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 2>is in a down place, Baylor has a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>room to grow, and Kansas is a nightmare. So Kansas

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.359
<v Speaker 2>State is and continues to be Kansas State. So the

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<v Speaker 2>trajectory is Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Snyder, Bill Snyder, Yeah, eight and four yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Program where there's nothing that makes me think that they

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<v Speaker 2>are a threat to not go to bowl games aside

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<v Speaker 2>from quarterback injury issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Where would you grade out their launch ankle right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty sixty, Yeah, forty five is bold. Maybe I said

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<v Speaker 2>fifty two sixty somewhere in that region.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. Yeah, I don't know if I go quite that high.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean they're sort of utahs, right, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna have their act together. If they're reasonably healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have their act together.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't, they'll just beat you'll beat you. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go. I'll go fifty five. Okay, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not too far off. Let's go to Dana Holgerson.

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Holgerson four and eight and year one, three and

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<v Speaker 1>five this past season. I'm gonna let you take the

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<v Speaker 1>wheel on Holgerson here, Okay. I feel like every Holgerson

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<v Speaker 1>team is exactly the same. Oh, I definitely don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've watched side by Side Clayton tune and Will

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<v Speaker 2>Greer clips, it's not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can't give an accurate readout on

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<v Speaker 1>Holgerson because I'm a little biased. I'm almost sick of

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Holgerson in college football.

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<v Speaker 2>And really, yeah, I mean, I just if you've watched

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<v Speaker 2>us in the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, but overall, no, not as like a personality.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I guess I feel a little bit frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>because we did have some good years with Hulgo at

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia, and there was a lot of excitement. We

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<v Speaker 1>were waiting for West Virginia to turn the corner and

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<v Speaker 1>like develop a defense and become more well rounded, and

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of never happened. They had some great seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, but it just over the long

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<v Speaker 1>haul kind of fell apart. For me, I'm just frustrated

0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>that he hasn't done better. That's fair.

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, the nightmare of the twenty nineteen season with his

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<v Speaker 2>planned red shirting bulk red shirting, I don't know, didn't

0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>work out for twenty twenty with guys like Derreck King leaving,

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.239
<v Speaker 2>defense improved the defense actually, and the defense improved near

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<v Speaker 2>the end of his time at West Virginia. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of nightmare years in there, but the defense improved.

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<v Speaker 2>In Houston, Clayton tune probably has a relatively low ceiling,

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 2>gives the ball away too much. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>the competition is open for quarterback right now, but an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting enough season last year you know, they get edged

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<v Speaker 2>out by Memphis. They lose to Hawaii to close out

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<v Speaker 2>the year the Bowl game.

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<v Speaker 1>I just Houston and Hulgo.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't if you're going to hire Dana Holgerson and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any sort of real pop on offense, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a failed higher and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>the next quarterback is going to be the guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know they were running the ball so well

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<v Speaker 2>in Morgantown. I don't really run the ball that well.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't been running the ball all that well. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it just feels like an average team that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>much zazz or juice right now. I mean, the schedule

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>is nice this year. They should probably have an impressive record,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they miss UCF and Cincinnati. I just

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of trajectory, I'm just I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>left at like a like a straight forty five. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>then that's too upward, probably as.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah, don't you gotta go below forty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're sort of like a thirty team. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean they won't make a Bowl. But in terms of

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 2>just like the the launch angle, I just I'm not

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're not to the moon. They're just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of there. They lost by four touchdowns at Cincinnati this year,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're not competitive with the top of the conference.

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<v Speaker 2>They give up forty plus two. I mean, it's understandable

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<v Speaker 2>to BYU. But in a strange year, and it was

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 2>incredibly strange. I think they had like a month off

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 2>between games at a certain point.

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was really So this is all

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>grain of salt, but.

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 3>In a year where in a in a year where

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 3>tackling in defense didn't exist in a lot of places,

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 3>it seemed like a good year to pop a little

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 3>bit more on offense.

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're still talking about I mean, I'm not

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>a big Kyle Porter fan, but I like Marquz Stevenson

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 2>going into last year, and I just they just didn't

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 2>separate themselves offensively. So if that's a hole th team,

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know really what you're getting excited about. So yeah,

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like a twenty five or thirty with them worse scamming.

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Let's play it. You go crying? Why not? Yeah? Scott Sadderfield,

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're a big Sadderfield guy, weren't you? I was?

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And I'm bummed about Louisville with sadderfield because it felt

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 2>a bit like last year should have been a real

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>jump up year. Yeah, and the turnovers killed so much

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of what could have been killed him, And yeah, I

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>expected more. I think, what did Michaeale Maleik throw twelve picks?

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Had three fumbles and this was a year where they

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 2>still were able to managing putting a top twenty offense

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 2>or so on the field. I mean, you have two

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>two at well, an all time receiver for the Cardinals.

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>You have Dez Fitzpatrick. You have Javian Hawkins forever long

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 2>he played, and a quarterback who was I mean when

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you say an all time Louisville explosive quarterback, you're still

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 2>saying somebody who followed Lamar Jackson. But to waste that

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>offense with what that the results ended up as in

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, and to not be able to generate juice

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>coming off of I love that word today for whatever reason,

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the juice on the recruiting trail an underwhelming recruiting destination

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 2>right now in the ACC coming off of what the

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>most exciting college football player of the modern era, and

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson really excellent offensive play these past couple of years.

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>A young energetic coaching staff that you felt like, I

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>felt like would be recruiting at a higher level. They're

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 2>a below average acc recruiting team.

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>He was really good at app State. He built strong defenses.

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a different but it's a different game there, man

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>different game wiring talent and winning. I thought they were

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna I thought they were going to give Clemson trouble

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>like they did for a stretch there under Bobby Patrino.

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>I really did. Between Scott Sadderfield and Neil Brown, you

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.719
<v Speaker 1>had a moment when those guys got hired by bigger

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>programs because I think you really liked each of them

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a great deal, and you know, Neil Brown, I think

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>to some extent, we kind of acknowledged that was going

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>to be more of a longer term thing. It wasn't

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be right away. But Louisville felt like they

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>had it felt like they had more of the ingredients

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to get there quicker. And I'm with you. I thought

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>this past season, for all its flaws, was going to

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>be a much much different story for Louisville, and the

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>turnovers were just brutal. Moreover, it was I think a

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 1>situation where they shot themselves in the foot a lot.

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Dux is a better team than four and seven, but

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they just constantly were getting in their own way, and

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of left now not knowing what to think.

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I felt really.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Out showed out really nicely to end the season against Wake,

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 2>So there's that.

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I felt really optimistic after year one under Statterfeld. This

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>past season it felt like it all fell apart, and like,

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>certainly Louisville would not be the only college football program

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that saw a bit of that. We saw Michigan, we

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>saw at Penn State, like we've seen it all around

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>college football schools that just didn't show out at all

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. So I don't know how much value

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to put on that. I was left very very very underwhelmed, though,

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and that is certainly going to affect my launch angle

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 1>after eight and five. After eight and five, I might

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>have said, like seventy five degree of launch angle, I

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>was gung ho away I started.

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>They started their ACC season one and six. Yeah, last year,

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 2>that's against a Miami team who was good but not

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>a killer pitt okay, Georgia Tech losing by what twenty

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to Georgia Tech, Notre Dame team who they weirdly shut down.

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Well the seven Yeah, ah, I just.

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm left deflated on the too. I can

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I recognize. And you know, Braden Smith start out the

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>season really impressively at receiver, looking like a really promising

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>young receiver, and just kind of disappeared throughout the year.

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was going to make more of a contribution.

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>So no, it leaves me feeling just sort of forty

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>forty five ish in terms of launch angle and trajectory

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>that this is a Louisville team that's going to be

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a bowl team, and we'll climb out of a slumber

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>cave to give somebody trouble. But I mean, they didn't

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>string together wins this year. They did not win two

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>games in a row at any point in twenty twenty.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Now it maybe it was just the strangeness of last fall,

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>but everybody was operating under similar circumstances.

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just left tampering, tampering my expectations of the Scott

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Sadderfield era.

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we say fifty, Okay, why don't we say

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty because I think we both believe, we want to

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>believe that it's going to be higher, and it can

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>be higher, but last season that doesn't wash off, not

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>so easily.

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>They give up a lot of big plays. Look, the

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Miami game was early and they gave up all those

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>huge plays and we're being sucked into play action like

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the high school team. But I don't know if what

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>is the record that Louisville just they need to go

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one for you to feel good about

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 2>a respectable launch angle.

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, they got to make a bowl. I got to

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>make a bowl that that I think is given. I'm

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna pull up their schedule here quick, m hm and

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>see what this looks like. But you know, I think

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the bowl is probably that's that's table stakes at this point.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>If you're sadder filled, I think it's field not felt

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to be clear field. What did I say? Feld? Yeah,

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you've You've been thrown in a couple of Felds there.

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>It's been a long day ole miss to open up

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the year, that won't be easy. You see f in there,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Matt Carroll and Dylan Gabriel in the non conference. Okay,

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not the most ideal. There's a Kentucky game in there. Obviously,

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the rivalry later in the year, so you could do

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot better in terms of non conference scheduling.

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the last time Louisville played Kentucky, a receiver

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 2>completely destroyed them at quarterback.

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>But there are games in here against Eastern Kentucky, Wake, Forest, Syracuse, Duke.

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a easier path for sure than Maryland.

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>But what's your trajectory again.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Got to get to a bowl, got to get to

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>what is the number, I'll say fifty fifty fifty.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>So you feel like they're cruising on an above average trajectory.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I am going to keep the faith that they are.

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Didn't see it last year.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 2>They could easily if Mackenzie Milton is good, they are

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>starting there's a good shot of starting out one and three,

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 2>one and three and then at Wake, Virginia, BC, NC State, Clemson.

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>It's not ideal, but it's not the great Bob.

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't.

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I see him going to a

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>bowl game right now, if if they're even somewhat has

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>turnover prone and turnovers are random. When they're not though,

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 2>you'll know it. And there were some not so random turnovers,

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>bad decision making in the passing game and just not

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 2>holding onto the ball.

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Keep all my.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Faith hard to circle.

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Keep the faith with me with Scott Satterfield.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm in that, Like twenty seven is my launch angle.

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:29.479
<v Speaker 1>He's all right, maah. But Jamie Chadwell, huh, I mean

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>he's my captain planet Jamie Chadwell Coastal Carolina. Jamie Chadwell

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>is interesting. He's had three non consecutive seasons with Coastal Carolina.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Was hired initially in twenty seventeen, then the last two

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>seasons twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. Here's an interim. Here's

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>an interim guy. Yeah, so here, here's the here's the

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>official win loss record three and nine year one, five

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and seven year two, and then eleven and one this

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>past season. So for our purposes here where we're considering

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>third year coaches, will say five and seven eleven one

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty big jump. Sure, I think Coastal may come out

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of a pandemic in better shape as a program, because

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>first off, they captured the imagination of the nation at

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>huge stage all season long, specifically the BYU game, which

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about till we're blue in the face, I'm sure.

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And secondly, they're gonna have Grayson McCall for at least

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>another year, and that dude's a legit pro prospect for

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>as long as he's there.

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen one way or the other.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>He's a pro prospect. Yeah, nice, good for him. For

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>as long as he's there, Coastal's gonna have a platform,

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have eyes. And it may be a little

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>too soon to start grading out recruiting, and I'm always

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>hesitant to dig too deep into recruiting on the group

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of five level, but I do think they're going to

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>see a lift as a result to what we saw

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>this past season. And Chadwell, for as long as he's there,

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the other component here. He was a

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>name that came up in association with some bigger openings.

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how long he's going to stay at Coastal.

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>You'd obviously like to believe that he's going to be

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>there a while, but I think we know better in

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>this world of college football that if he continues having

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>double digit wins, people are going to come calling for him,

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>especially with the offense he runs, which is just fun

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>as hell. I don't see how you could look at

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>this program and not feel like it's like eighty Yeah.

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a couple of things. The offensive system is incredible,

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 2>and I won't say they lucked into Grayson McCall, but

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 2>it was a perfect match. And certainly, you know, if

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>we could do it all over again in terms of

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>the class of twenty nineteen, that he'd probably be receiving

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>more offers than he did from Power five schools. They

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>ran a ton and that option look to set up

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 2>the pass, and Grayson McCall happened to be talented enough

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>to take advantage with defenses sucking up, and they were

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.240
<v Speaker 2>a crazy explosive team. I think they're going to regress

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.919
<v Speaker 2>a bit. They were the number one turnover margin team

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>in the nation, I believe. I don't know if you

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 2>came across that number as well when you were looking

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 2>at them. So that's something that's not really sustainable because

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 2>fumbles will bounce the other way, interceptions will get tipped

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>and caught by the defense if they weren't caught last year.

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Those kinds of things tend to turn season to season.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Their schedule is awesome. They are at app State this year,

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's after a bye week, so I don't think

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 2>there's any reason to think that they won't flirt with

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>ten wins, especially with how much better the defense got.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>From twenty nineteen to twenty twenty. We saw the defense

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>make some big plays at the end of games. They

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 2>did win a couple of clunkers. I mean they held

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 2>on against BYU. They won that game by what a

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 2>yard and a half at the end, And then they

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>held on in a crazy game against Louisiana Lafayette or sorry,

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>just Louisiana on the road, and I think that was

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 2>a Thursday, a Friday night game. They beat the rageing Cajuns.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think they're going to continue to flirt with

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 2>double digit wins, but I don't think what last year

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>was is necessarily sustainable. So, yeah, you're right about your

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>eighty eighty two whatever. They're in a good place, but

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a tight rope back because Jamie Chadwell is

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>probably going to jump on a bigger opportunity in the

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 2>next year or two if the success continues in Conway.

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm very curious to see what the future holds

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>for him. Look, if they keep running that offense at

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the same level that they did this past year, it's

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>impossible for me to believe that there won't be schools

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that are at his door. We'll going to bring him.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>He's your next Louisville coach. Yeah, I don't know that

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 2>he knows. Yeah, No, They've got way better. They stopped

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of big plays through the air, and so

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be the thing. The offense gets the attention,

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's the defensive improvement and the turnovers

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 2>forced and not given up that really helped to pace

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>everything for a crazy improvere.

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Will Heally. Let's Will Healey at Charlotte

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>seven and six, year one, two and four in the

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>weird COVID year Dan, I don't know if I have

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>enough knowledge to make a informed opinion of Will Heally,

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>but I know that Will Heely's a name that has

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>come up a little bit fringe candidate pretty consistently, maybe

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>not as a leading contender, but in conjunction with some

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of the bigger openings that we've seen over the last

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, season or two. Here, Sure, where do you

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>stand on Charlotte and Will Heally? I think he's impressive.

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 2>He strikes a lot of people in the college football

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>universe as an impressive and he's a younger dude did

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 2>a great job at Austin p in Tennessee, and you know,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>it was the weird coaching shuffle with Jmu and everything

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 2>like that in Charlotte. So takes over at Charlotte and

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 2>they kind of out of nowhere, but the schedule set

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>up nicely for it in twenty nineteen to win their

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 2>final I think five games to take forty nine ers

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 2>to their first Bowl game ever. Chris Reynolds, I think

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 2>is a really impressive quarterback. Needs to cut down on

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 2>the turnovers himself, but I think is a really nice

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>starting point, and I like Charlotte a good deal. They've

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 2>recruited all right, It's sort of been all over the

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>place in terms of recruiting, but I'm I'm pretty happy.

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the defense was legitimately bad at times. They

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.760
<v Speaker 2>gave up fifty to Duke last year. So I don't

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pump the brakes on the will Heay bigger

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 2>job conversation right now. I'm going to need to see

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more like he has a nightmare of

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 2>an opening few games in twenty nineteen and does an

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>amazing job to close out the year. So I am

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I think the trajectory is good, especially for I mean,

0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 2>this has only been what an FBS program for eight

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>nine years or something like that. They took a few

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>decades off, so I'm gonna cut them some slacks. So

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, all things considered, they were another one

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of those teams I think with like a five week

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 2>break between games last year, and I think they missed

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>what I'm looking at the schedule right now. Yeah, they

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 2>have two weeks off between app State and FAU and

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>they're in They're definitely in the harder side of Conference USA.

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>They're in the East, which is I mean, UAB is

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 2>just in firm control of the West, it appears, so

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>they're in the harder side of Conference USA, and his

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>job is going to continue to be to maximize this

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>offense while the defense takes probably a little bit of

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 2>time improving. So I think the trajectory is good all

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>things considered. Within the context of Charlotte football and how

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>young it still is, I'm gonna I'm gonna say.

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Like fifty to fifty five. He doesn't not look like

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Kaylor Lautner from what was that keeen drama, The Vampire One.

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Why can't I think of it Twilight, Twilight. Yeah, you

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>knew Taylor's name, but not Twilight. I couldn't think of it. Okay,

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't not look like he looks like a nerdier

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>version of Taylor Lautner.

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, they did bring in a big transfer this year,

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I think from A and M at quarterback.

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll see. I don't know if.

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's a competition in Charlotte, but

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 2>there's at least that there are. If they can bring

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>in some of those guys, it becomes a little bit

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 2>more interesting.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, heally only thirty six, so he's a younger.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Only thirty six. Oh my god, you're a whole generation

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:30.919
<v Speaker 2>older than him.

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>It's true. Okay, let's go to Jeff Collins. You're Jeff Collins. Thoughts.

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I love Jeff Collins. Man, I'm in mister Atlanta, Mister Atlanta,

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Collins. Three wins in year one, three wins in

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>year two. Well, it's gonna be a slow burn. It's

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a slow burn to root out the option.

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 1>What I like about Jeff Collins is that he just

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>has limitless.

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that still a thing? Is that still a narrative?

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 2>With Georgia Tech the Atlanta two years. No, no, no,

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the option, rooting out the option. Now, after two seasons of.

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>It, it's becoming less of a thing. I think we're

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>getting to that point where he needs to put up

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>or shut up. But it was going to take at

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 1>least two seasons to fully get that system out of

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the system, you know. Okay, No, I'm right here with you.

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 1>So I like Jeff Collins. I stand by the fact

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that Georgia Tech plays hard. That is my thing. It's

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 1>always been my thing. It doesn't always equal more wins,

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.959
<v Speaker 1>but more often than not, if you find a team

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that is playing hard, that's a pretty good bet. And

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they have under him. I like what

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I've seen, So I like the fact that he's selling

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta hard. They've obviously got a lot of talent down there.

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>He's doing his it's in an amazing state. Yeah, to

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>try and improve the recruiting, to adapt to a different system.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I am going to remain optimistic on Georgia Tech. Now, Okay,

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>so does that mean a Bowl.

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Three?

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.280
<v Speaker 1>That means that they need to get to a Bowl

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>game in year three for me to maintain this level

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of optimism. So I will put it at I'm very optimistic.

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I will put it out a fifty five because I

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>honestly believe they are headed in the right direction.

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to see him go to a bowl they

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>don't go to a bowl game, and we come back

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and we do this next year. It's going to be

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>big time crank, big time crank. But I'm going fifty

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>five finally answer. Their schedule is really hard.

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 2>They're at Clemson, at Miami, at Notre Dame, and of

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 2>course they have Georgia.

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I think what we need to see from Georgia Tech

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>this year because of those teams that I name, they

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.439
<v Speaker 2>just can't get blown out like fifty two to three

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 2>against you know, Clemson or Miami or Georgia or Notre

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Dame or any of those teams. They need to be

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>losing games because they've they've won games against quality and

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 2>more talented teams.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>They have.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, weird to say backfield of the future at

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 2>this point because they've already been the backfield, but Jeff

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Simms and Jamior Gibbs are really impressive when they're on.

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 2>So I just need to see them at the very

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 2>least because they're gonna lose likely lose what to Clemson

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and Georgia. If they could lose, I don't know, forty

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 2>five twenty eight instead of forty five eight, that's something

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 2>that will help with my trajectory. And they absolutely in

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>terms of really bumping up this launch angle, I'm gonna

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>need them to beat I think they have North Carolina

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote Neutrals in Atlanta, so it's not a bad

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>neutral site matchup. You're gonna have to beat either North Carolina.

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 2>You gotta beat maybe both Virginia schools pit maybe give

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame a little bit of trouble. I don't know

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 2>if they have if the Irish have somebody before or after,

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 2>if that's like a sandwich situation for Notre Dame, but

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 2>something let's say Georgia Tech, Notre Dame has Stanford.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>The week after in Virginia the week before, two road games.

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's super intimidating, final.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Final home game of the year for Notre Dame.

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Senior Day, Yeah, I really need Sims and

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Gibbs to pop for me to feel Sims and Gibbs.

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>The problem, the problem with being too optimistic on Tech

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>is that they are really only three obvious wins here.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>But and I U Kennesan Duke.

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>That's about it. They can beat BC, it's at home.

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>They can beat Virginia Tech.

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you're a big BRAXI believer, not really.

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.240
<v Speaker 2>And they should be able to beat Duke pit is beatable.

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>That's at home. I can find five.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm sticking with fifty five. Okay, don't talk me out

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of it.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm at thirty five because some point we need to turn,

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, putting the Atlanta area code on every jersey

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 2>into actual wins.

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Final coach Ry Ryan Day, he's our technodrome straight down.

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's play it anyway, even though he's not. Yeah, Ryan

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Day thirteen and one in year one, seven and one

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>and went to the National Championship Game lost Tobama. This

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>past year, Ryan Day has done nothing at all to

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>make folks like me feel leary about the future of

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the program. And I say folks like me because my

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 1>thing that I always stand by is it's really tough

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to follow a legend, and coaching changes are like a

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>coin flip. You just you kind of never know what

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get, even if it seems like it's gonna

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>work out on paper. There's a lot of times that

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. Ryan Day has Ryan Day, did you just

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>did you just kind of pseudo quote Forrest come maybe

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Okay, that wasn't the intention of that,

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>but maybe a little bit. Yeah, Okay, So look, twenty

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and two, uh, two years, that's pretty good. Both are

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you laughing at me? Twenty and two is more than

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:35.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Both years have been with Justin Fields, though,

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's a huge cop out. But let's just say

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>moving forward now, new quarterback, I'm curious to see what

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>happens in twenty one, curious to see if that has

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>any effect whatsoever on this juggernaut that has been the Buckeyes.

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I have no reason to think that this train is

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>slowing down anytime soon. So I don't know how we

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>grade out trajectory when you're ready kind of at like

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 1>a night, but it doesn't feel to me like this

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is gonna go in a bad direction anytime soon.

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, there arguably the most talented or one of

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 2>the what one, two or three most talented teams in

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the country and got blown out by one of those

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 2>other teams in the National Championship Game or comfortably beaten

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 2>correct correct more appropriate. So it's all relative. They were

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 2>not a good defensive team relative to what I think

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>their potential was, because the talent level is so high,

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 2>and we saw that finally exploited. We saw it exploited

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 2>against other teams Indiana Northwestern at points of that game.

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the juggernaut that was the Alabama twenty

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty offense was the one that really put the exclamation

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>point on some of those defensive issues, again relative to

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 2>the talent on hand. So Ryan Day is done a

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 2>fantastic job. He's captain planet for Ohio State. This the

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>trajectory is unbelievable because their first goal is to win

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten and there is nowhere near an obvious

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 2>reason to think they won't this year, which is crazy.

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 2>The recruiting has, if nothing, gotten even better than what

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 2>it was under ed Meyer.

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It is better you look at.

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>So they are. They're in a quarterback battle right now

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>between a blue chip from southern California and a blue

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>chip from Arizona. They have the number one overall player

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:23.240
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two. This upcoming class in Quinn Yours

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>from Texas coming in. So they are operating like crazy.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>On a national level, the recruiting machine is and the

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 2>stage certainly does not seem too big. Taking the baton

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 2>from Urban Meyer, so I think in terms of assistant hiring,

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 2>he's done a fantastic job. You look at what you

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 2>know with Al Washington and Greg Madison stabilizing things upfront, Carrie.

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Combs, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 2>But offensively it is, there just seems very little to

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 2>worry about. The unbelievable group of receivers Garrett Wilson and

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Chris olave back this year, probably the most obvious star

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 2>duo at receiver in the sport right now heading into

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one. So I don't have any concerns trajectory wise,

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:15.439
<v Speaker 2>other than Ohio State in some form. You can't get

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 2>blown out on a stage like that, and they're not

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame. But they are again going to have to

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 2>break through after that showing in the playoff. I mean,

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 2>they have this unbelievable game against Clemson, killed them and

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 2>then killed Clinton. Then yeah, so we'll see. The secondary

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 2>left some to be desired last year, as did linebacker.

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there are still problem areas, but you know,

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 2>you look, you pull back the camera and Ryan Day

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 2>has been sensational.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see, to your point, an obvious pathway

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 1>for somebody else to upend them and win the Big Ten.

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing they're They're gonna keep getting bites

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>at that playoff Apple because all they have.

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<v Speaker 2>To do is lose once to a one lost team

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<v Speaker 2>in the East.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all it takes, right, But I just don't feel

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>great about that. Who's that team? Right? Is a team?

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Who's a team Michigan.

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Looks three steps back? Michigan State starting over, Penn State

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 2>has its own issues, especially on offense, and they're starting

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:27.359
<v Speaker 2>over at coordinator there so and.

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Then who on the who on the western side gives

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you the warm fuzzies? Nobody obvious. So it seems like

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State has the unique circumstance of being far and

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>away better in what is already a really good conference,

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>really good conference. It's not like an acc situation where

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it's Clemson and then everybody else is just sort of

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>like trying to punch their way to get to like

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to that top run. We've got teams that

0:50:55.800 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>are blue blood programs, teams that have been at the

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>top of the polls very recently, and Ohio State's just

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 1>way better than all of them, and that bodes well

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>for them as it relates to the playoffs. So I

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just it's got to be ninety right,

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like they're They're just on a wide path to the moon.

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>It's what twenty twenty one.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, is Ryan Day hoisting a national championship trophy by

0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the end of the twenty twenty four season. By the

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>end of twenty twenty four, Yes, so he has won two, three,

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 2>four bites at that apple.

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would say yes. Okay, I think I agree.

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I would say yes, and I'd be inclined to say

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it could be this year. But I still don't know

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>what their quarterback is going to look like. I have

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of faith, see they'll be CJ. Stratter, Jack Miller.

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of faith that one of those

0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 1>two kids is going to be very, very good. But

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>with the kind of turnover that BAMA has losing Trevor

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence or Clemson, it's going to take some time. Didja

0:51:57.239 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you just saying it's gonna be there? Okay?

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 2>There isn't a tiny part of me that worries that

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Day isn't fully ready to annually beat Clemson or

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Alabama or simply Alabama, like we could be saying in

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, does Ryan Day have a Nick Saban problem?

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>We could be Yeah.

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I would like to see what this Ohio

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 2>State because we saw a difference last year with my

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 2>guy Jeff Hafley two years ago in this Ohio State defense,

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>and it seems like they took a step back this

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 2>past year. But again, this is twenty twenty, so all

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 2>grain of salt. I am I'm very optimistic about I mean,

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 2>were you not optimistic about Ohio State's future at this point?

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It's tough. It's tough.

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, there you have a ready or do we

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 2>have an agreed upon technodron team.

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>A technodrone team? Yeah? Of those eight who is clearly

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>digging downward hlgo sadderfield, it could be Collins has not

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>won a lot of games in Atlanta. I'm still optimistic though, Okay,

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm still optimistic. I'll go hold go. If you want

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to go hold go.

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll go hole go. I expected more. I

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 2>just that's a conference where you should be able to

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 2>move the ball and uh drive the ball. Downfield a

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 2>lot more than Houston has. So yeah, I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in, you have a favorite Ninja Turtle? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>And it exploded total joke. Though I was a Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Angelo guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, you do strike me as your class party dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was a Michelangelo guy. I feel like he

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<v Speaker 1>is everybody's guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Donatello because you've got approximate the Dona Tello

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 2>experience with a bat. And I know Casey Jones was

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 2>involved in this universe. But I like Donatello. He like

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 2>he he had a dry sense of humor without being

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<v Speaker 2>sarcastic like Ralph Raphael Raffi, and without being an out

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<v Speaker 2>and out goofball like Michelangelo.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, Michael, I feel like Michael Angelo was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like sort of not to mix my metaphors here,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's sort of like a nay more quality to

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<v Speaker 1>Michaelangelo to borrow a little bit from European soccer. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's just he's got more talent than everybody, but doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>always choose to apply it, right, you know. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the thing that I always enjoyed I never really

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 2>noticed at the time was we have a turtle with

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 2>a dagger, and we have a turtle with a sort

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<v Speaker 2>two swords, right Michael Angelo or excuse me, Leo has two.

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<v Speaker 1>Swords, yes, and Michael Angelo had that no blood in.

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:08.319
<v Speaker 2>The movie, all right, Michaelangelo has noun chucks and what

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 2>are they size Raphael's weapon and then you got a

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<v Speaker 2>bow bow staff for Donatello, but no blood. No blood,

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<v Speaker 2>daggers and swords, no blood in the TMNT early universe.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, fun show as always fun show. Soliverble

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