1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with geopolitics. Tensions are heating up again 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: as China threatens further retaliatory measures against US curbs on 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: its shipping sector. Beijing announced the move after the US 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Trade Representative began an investigation into China's maritime industry. We 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: get the very latest from Bloomberg's Jill Desis in Hong Kong. 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 4: This is an escalation in what really has been a 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 4: long standing dispute between both the US and China over 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: mariton dominance. We've really seen several months ago the US 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 4: announced US port fees for Chinese ships that were coming 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: into those ports, amounting to the tune of millions of 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: dollars of potential fees is set to go into effect 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: this week. We've also seen these two countries really kind 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: of trade tit for tat sort of retaliatory measures against 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: each other over the last several days, even involving some trade, 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: particularly when it comes on the China side, to some 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 4: new export curbs they were placing on materials related to 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: rare earth issues. And then now obviously you're seeing a 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: lot of this kind of snowball into what's happening on 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: the shipping front. 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Jill Lisis in Hong Kong says the dispute has 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: consequences for the global economy. Vessels are involved in eighty 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: percent of world trade. 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: Well, adding to the tensions between the US and China. 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: Nathan words from Scott bessen The Financial Times is reporting 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: the Treasury Secretary has accused China of trying to hurt 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: the world's economy. This comes after Beijing and post sweeping 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: export controls on rare earths and critical minerals papers as 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: Bessend is expecting to meet Chinese Vice Premier Hollifong one 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: more time before Trump and she meet in South Korea 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: later this month. 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Well, now, let's get to the latest from the Middle 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: East and President Trump is back in Washington after a 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: whirlwind trip to the region, where he celebrated the ceasefire 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: between Israel and Hamas and laid out a vision for 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: a broader Middle East piece. 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: I'm not talking about single state or double state or 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: two state. 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: We're talking about the rebuilding of Gaza. 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: President Trump spoke to world leaders at a signing ceremony 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: in Shermail Shake, Egypt, but challenges remain for maintaining the piece. 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Stuart Livingston Wallace leads Bloomberg's Middle East coverage. 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 6: You have that international pressure, but also you potentially have 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 6: boots on the ground, and while the US is deploying 48 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 6: I think something like two hundred personnel within Israelti monits 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 6: and the ceasefire, they have no intention of actually going 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 6: into Gaza itself. So that probably has to be in 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 6: international force number two. 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 7: Money. 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 6: It is going to cost an enormous amount of money 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 6: to rebuild Garza, I mean, let alone clearing the rubble, 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 6: then you have to start again. That money has to 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 6: come from somewhere, and I think the hope is that 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 6: a lot of that will come, in particular from the 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 6: Gulf region. 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Stewart living Ston Wallace reports other points of President 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: Trump's twenty point piece plan remain unclear, like disarming Hamas, 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: but the President predicts they will happen well elsewhere. 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: In Washington, Nathan, it is now day fourteen of the 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: government shut down. House Minority Leader Haking Jeffries is calling 64 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: Democrats back to Capitol Hill today in a show of 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 3: solidarity even though they won't have anything to work on. 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: Speaker Mike Johnson has canceled votes for a third week 67 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: in a row and is keeping his members in their districts. 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 8: Our members are doing very productive work. We're in constant 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 8: communication with them, and we are ready to come back 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 8: and continue the work in our committees and everything on 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 8: the House floor. We will return the legislative session as 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 8: soon as the Democrats come to their senses and open 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 8: the government. 74 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: And that was how Speaker Mike Johnson on Capitol Hill. 75 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: And as the shutdown continues, members of the military are 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: set to miss their first paychecks tomorrow. Treasury Secretary Scott 77 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: Besson told Fox's Business his agency is prioritizing payments to 78 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: ensure service members get paid. Past Treasury secretaries have questioned 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: whether it's possible to set aside some payments over others. 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: Outside of fight over raising the Dutch Seal. 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: Let's get to news outside Earth. Karen SpaceX's Starship rocket 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: has managed to launch satellites and make it back to 83 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: this planet intact. The milestone is critical to CEO Elon 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Musk's aim of preparing the rocket for regular space missions. 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: Here is the moment of launch from Starbase in South Texas. 86 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 7: Three two one. 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: We have liftoff, Go super Go Starship, thanks for all 88 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: the historic flights. 89 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 7: Pad On. 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: Ten minutes after that, Starship super Heavy boosters split from 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: the spacecraft as planned, before splashing down in the Gulf 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: of Mexico. The success marks a step forward in Musk's 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: ambitions to carry NASA astronauts to the Moon in under 94 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 2: two years and eventually to establish civilization on Mars. 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: Well, we turned to the markets now, Nathan, where bank 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: earnings are front and center. JP Morgan, Goldman, Sag City Group, 97 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: and Wells Fargo all report this morning, and we get 98 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: the very latest of Bloomberg's John Tucker John good morning. 99 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, good morning, caring Yeah. Wall Street's biggest bank sent 100 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: for another strong quarter, lifted by resilient trading desks and 101 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: also a rebound and deal activity that's helped us send 102 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 5: their stocks to fresh eyes. Seema Shad, Principal Global, expects 103 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: to the financials to help lift all boats. 104 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 9: We can see continued performance from financials, so along with 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 9: those tech stocks which continue to drive the market, we 106 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 9: would think that financials can join in with Roddy and 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 9: help push the aktimak a little bit further. 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 5: And then you have those two recent corporate blow ups 109 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: tring Color Holdings and First Brands. They're igniting concerns about 110 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 5: potential cracks, and credit bank executives likely to get a 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: question about that during the earnings calls this morning. Questions 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: on the outlook for more bank mergers will also probably 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: come up after last week's announced eleven billion dollar acquisition 114 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: of Comerica by fifth third the biggest US bank stocks, 115 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 5: by the way, have outpaced the S and P five 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: hundreds gains over the past twelve months. In New York 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 5: Home John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 118 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: Meantime, Nathan Philadelphia FED President Anna Paulson is signaling she 119 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: favors two more quarter point rate cuts this year. Paulson 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: says monetary policy should look through the impact of tariffs 121 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: and consumer price increases. I anticipate that twenty twenty six 122 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: we'll see growth near potential and inflation rising and then 123 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: succeed subsiding as tariffs, together with current and past monetary 124 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: policy restrictiveness, work their way through. And Philadelphia Fed President 125 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: Anna Paulison made those comments at the National Association for 126 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: Business Economics Annuel Conference in Philadelphia. Time now for a 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: look at some of the other stories making news in 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: New York and around the world, and for that we're 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 7: Michael, Good Morning, Good morning, Karen. New York Attorney General 131 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 7: Letitia James attended a rally for New York City mayoral 132 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 7: candidate Zoron Mamdani to offer her support for the Democratic 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 7: front runner, first public appearance since she was indicted on 134 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 7: federal charges of bank fraud and making a false statement. 135 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 7: Following President Trump's call for her prosecution, James defied the 136 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 7: President Monday night, referring to her successful prosecution of the 137 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 7: Trump business. 138 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: I will now, I will wake, I will then I will. 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 7: Pick audio courtesy of ABC seven. James took the stage 140 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 7: to thunderous and sustained applause and chance of we Love 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 7: Tish during the boisterous rally. The northeaster that pummeled the 142 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 7: East Coast is finally moving out to sea. Wind gust 143 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 7: reached forty to sixty miles per hour across the Northeast. 144 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 7: A woman in New York was killed after heavy winds 145 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 7: blew a solar panel off a carport and hit her 146 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 7: in the head. Streets were swumped from Ocean City, Maryland 147 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 7: to the New Jersey shore. Many coastal areas experienced flooding 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 7: and beach erosion. This homeowner is in Bowers, Delaware. 149 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 10: With the heavy wind and the heavy surf and the 150 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 10: high tide, we just had an extraordinary loss of sand 151 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 10: here on the beach front. 152 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 7: Off Cape Cod, Massachusetts. Cruise pulled a man to safety 153 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 7: after he was spotted in the water near a ferry 154 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 7: in Arizona. A microburst ripped off roofs, knocked down semi trucks, 155 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 7: and flooded neighborhoods in Tempe Monday afternoon when gusts up 156 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 7: to seventy one miles per hour hit the city. Madagascar 157 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 7: President Andre Rogelina says he has fled the country to 158 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 7: an undisclosed location in fear for his life. Following a 159 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 7: military rebellion. Rogelina has faced weeks of anti government protests, 160 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 7: which reached a pivotal point on Saturday when an elite 161 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 7: military unit joined the protest and called for the president 162 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 7: to step down. Global News twenty four hours a day 163 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 7: and whatever you wanted with the Bloomberg News Now Michael Barr. 164 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 7: This is Bloomberg. 165 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: Hearn he thanks Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, 166 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 3: and for that we bring in John Stashauer. 167 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: Thanks Gavin. 168 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 10: The Seattle Mariners, with two more wins, are going to 169 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 10: the World Series for the first time ever. They won 170 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 10: ten to three in Toronto. They hit two three run 171 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 10: homers in a two run shot and now they go 172 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 10: home with the two games to non lead on the ALCS. 173 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 10: Game one of the NLCS are the Dodgers, behind the 174 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 10: pitching of blakesnew a two to one win in Milwaukee, 175 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 10: a pair of Mond of Night football games. The Falcons 176 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 10: beat the Bills twenty four to fourteen, and the Bears 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 10: on a last second field goal won in Washington twenty 178 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 10: five twenty four. That's your Bloomberg Sports update. 179 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg day Break coming up 180 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: after this. 181 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 182 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 183 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business out. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Another morning of trade tensions 185 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: between the US and China. The latest move sanctions on 186 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: the US units of a South Korean shipping giant Hanwah Ocean. 187 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: That's after President Trump threatened one hundred percent tariffs China's 188 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: rare earth export restrictions last week. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson 189 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: says there's still room to negotiate. 190 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 11: I believe that China is open to a discussion on this, 191 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 11: and if they're not, we have substantial levers. 192 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 7: On our own. 193 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: That was Treasury Secretary Scott Besson in an interview on 194 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Fox Business. We're joined now by Bloomberg Markets reporter Valerie 195 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: Titel and Valerie. In just the last few days, it 196 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: seems like the back and forth has really ramped up here. 197 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: How significant is this move by China on sanctioning Hanwa 198 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: Good morning, Well. 199 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 11: It's definitely taken the risk rally of yesterday on a 200 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 11: back foot, with those Nasdaq futures down nearly a percent, 201 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 11: s and P five hundred down seven tents, so treasuries 202 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 11: are rallying as well on the back of this. So 203 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 11: it is a broad risk off on this announcement from 204 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 11: China that they have launched a probe into US impacts 205 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 11: on its shipping sector. They specifically call out the US 206 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 11: trade Representatives Section three oh one investigation. Now they have 207 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 11: sanctioned five companies, and this becomes a part of a 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 11: long standing dispute over maritime dominance. Now. Back in April, 209 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 11: Washington announced plans to curb China's shipbuilding prowess and it 210 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 11: seeks to build up its own American capabilities, which has 211 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 11: forced China to lose some market share in the space. 212 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 11: Now Chinese shipping has faced severe penalties even for calling 213 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 11: at US ports, so it does seem like there is 214 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 11: some sort of tit for tat now happening over maritime dominance. 215 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 11: We also heard from Scott Bessant, writing in the FT 216 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 11: in the early hours of this morning, accusing China of 217 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 11: trying to damage the global economy with its sweeping export 218 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 11: controls on rare Earth. So it doesn't seem like things 219 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 11: are calming down at the moment. There were some pretty 220 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 11: strong language in this ft op ed from Scott Bessent, 221 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 11: saying that China is trying to export their way out 222 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 11: of a deflationary depression that will harm their standing in 223 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 11: the world Nathan. The report also said that the US 224 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 11: will be prioritizing this issue as world leaders convene in 225 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 11: DC for the IMF meetings. They did report that Besson 226 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 11: is still expecting to meet his Chinese counterpart, Holy Punng 227 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 11: one more time before Trump and She are set to 228 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 11: meet in South Korea at the. 229 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: End of the TA And to that point, Valerie, we 230 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: also heard from Secretary Besson that he still thinks China 231 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: is willing to talk, that negotiations can happen. But given 232 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: all this back and forth, is their sign that there 233 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: is that willingness on the Chinese side? 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 11: Well, look, I think what markets are really watching for, 235 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 11: Nathan is whether this Trump She meeting still happens at 236 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 11: the end of October. If that is called off, I 237 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 11: think there would be growing speculation that the relationship between 238 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 11: US and China will be damaged, and damaged in almost 239 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 11: an irreversible way as the US tries to in some 240 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 11: way delink its economy from China. Now, that's a hard 241 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 11: thing to do given the reliance that the US has 242 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 11: on Chinese exports, especially when it comes to these rare 243 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 11: earths that are critical for the defense space. So all 244 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 11: these topics are coming front and center again. I think 245 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 11: it was really the move last week on rare earth 246 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 11: that caught Trump's eye because If you think back to 247 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 11: the beginning of this year, the first detente between the 248 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 11: US and China was around agreeing about rare earth continuing 249 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 11: their export from China into the US. And it seems 250 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 11: like they've ripped up that script that was really a 251 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 11: key part of their first agreement in order to back 252 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 11: off the tariffs that Trump announced back in April. 253 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: And in just thirty seconds. I guess this all puts 254 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: into question whether there can be yet another pause in 255 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: the China US trade pause. 256 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. The latest three month pause does lapse 257 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 11: after the supposed Trump's meeting with she in November, so 258 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 11: that is just another risk event now on market's minds 259 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 11: for perhaps higher tariffs. Remember Trump did threaten one hundred 260 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 11: percent additional tariffs on November first. 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