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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John.

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Speaker 4: My husband's bizarre behavior is ruining our marriage.

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Speaker 2: He's tone it down a little bit of history.

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Speaker 4: My husband, thirty one male, and I twenty nine female,

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Speaker 4: have been married for one year together for three years.

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Speaker 4: I've always known he has a bad case of social anxiety,

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Speaker 4: which I've always been really supportive of. I myself often

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Speaker 4: battled the anxiety monster. Recently for his work, we moved

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Speaker 4: from North America to Europe. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 4: I'm Sofia, I'm Riley, I'm Keon, and we're here to

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Speaker 4: give good advice. Goof Ley, But we don't have all

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Speaker 4: the answers. We only know what we'd do, So let

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Speaker 4: us know what you would do in the comments. Our

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Speaker 4: relationship has always been super solid. We've always been completely

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Speaker 4: honest with one another. No history of lies in fidelity

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Speaker 4: or manipulation. Nothing. Up until recently, I thought we were

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Speaker 4: two solid peas in a solid pod. I was understanding

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Speaker 4: for the first month when he'd act extremely panicked when

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Speaker 4: we'd leave the house. But we've been here for four

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Speaker 4: months now and his behavior is gone from panicked to

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Speaker 4: in my opinion, straight up bizarre.

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Speaker 2: Calling you right now, brain sewer.

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Speaker 1: How bizarre, how bizarre.

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Speaker 4: It's both worrying me and completely driving a wedge between us.

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Speaker 4: I sleep on the couch most nights now, Oh my god, dang,

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Speaker 4: your back's probably hurting or some people prefer it. You

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Speaker 4: know what Sam does. Whenever Sam stays at our parents' house,

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Speaker 4: he never sleeps like when he had. My parents have

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Speaker 4: since gotten rid of his bed because he never slept

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Speaker 4: in it anyway, But he would never sleep in his bed.

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Speaker 4: He would always sleep on the couch.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice couch. Also, my grandpa, my great grandpa,

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Speaker 2: and my uncle always slept on the couch and didn't

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Speaker 2: I got the collg.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom's super against couch sleeping. She's like, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna mass up the couch and I'm like, but it's

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Speaker 4: for sitting on. He's been having really aggressive and confusing

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Speaker 4: outbursts pretty much NonStop, but again, I was trying to

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Speaker 4: be understanding that it's probably just his anxiety getting the

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Speaker 4: best of him. The event that caused me to start

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Speaker 4: sleeping on the couch was this one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: bands that I've been trying to see for ten years

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Speaker 4: was in town and also playing at this super cool

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Speaker 4: was really excited and it was a pretty big deal

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Speaker 4: for me. We're at the venue, having some beers and

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Speaker 4: getting along great. When I asked him if he knows

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Speaker 4: where the bathroom is. It should be noted that this

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Speaker 4: bar area, and there are two entrances to the downstairs,

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Speaker 4: but I was only aware of one at the time.

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Speaker 4: He says, it's just upstairs, then first door on the left. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So I walk up the only stairs that I'm aware

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Speaker 4: back down and in completely good spirits. I jokingly said

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Speaker 4: he was trying to lead me on a wild goose show.

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Speaker 4: Since the bathrooms we weren't exactly to the left like

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Speaker 4: he said. He insisted, yes they were. I said, no way,

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Speaker 4: He asked which stairs I went up. I said the

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Speaker 4: there behind that door and pointed. I said, oh crap, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know those were there. That's when things

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Speaker 2: So in life you have live experiences where things just

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Speaker 2: kind of happened and you commentate on it. That's, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: how things happen. If your relationship doesn't really allow that

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Speaker 2: more than just this anxiety. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, he said, yes, I did know

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Speaker 4: literally just pointed to them. He asked why I was

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Speaker 2: Like step by step, yeah, you just said while you

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Speaker 2: get like, come on.

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Speaker 4: He got aggressive and said, yes, I effing did know

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Speaker 4: that he knew I used them, asking why I was

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Speaker 4: that door. I told him I definitely did not use

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Speaker 4: a door, suggesting we move on. He refused and demanded

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Speaker 4: to know why I was effing with him and why

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Speaker 4: I was trying to make him feel crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's so oh my gosh. You see how backward this is.

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Speaker 2: Opie says, oh my gosh, you were effing with me,

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Speaker 2: goes through a conversation line flips around her why are

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Speaker 4: And also Opie was seemingly joking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He's like, oh my goodness, you got me loving joking

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Speaker 4: joyfully yes, And he's like, how dare you yah about?

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Speaker 2: There's no join there's no joy in this relationship, you know.

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Speaker 4: Also Condy's relationship.

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Speaker 2: The number one killer of joy is overthinking and what

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Speaker 4: Overthinking? And there you go out, folks.

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Speaker 2: Dude, if Sophia si me on a wild goose chase, dude,

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Speaker 2: look trying to give me to get my steps in? Man,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: How dare you? I know you use the stairs? What

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Speaker 4: Getting concerned At this point, I asked if he was

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Speaker 4: I was effing lying to him and doing it on purpose,

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Speaker 4: demanding I explain it to him and asking why I

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Speaker 4: on like this for a while, while you wouldn't drop it.

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Speaker 4: He stormed out a few times, stormed back, humiliated me,

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Speaker 4: ruined the night, and I ended up leaving with him. Now,

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Speaker 4: typically in those standard who ate the last piece of

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Speaker 4: it was possibly me to avoid the argument. Feels like

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Speaker 2: Just get a gnome and blame it on them.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather be happy than right all the time. But

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Speaker 4: the fact is I absolutely didn't even know those stairs existed,

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Speaker 4: So I didn't, and I wondered, is this though it's

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Speaker 4: to therapy many times and there is absolutely no shame

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Speaker 4: about it in our household. After I told him that

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Speaker 4: I could no longer live like this and would not

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Speaker 4: be sleeping in the same room as him anymore, we

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Speaker 4: finally made an agreement. If he ever had another outburst again,

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Speaker 2: Okay, hear me out here, if there's ever another explosion

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you should have stuck with the

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Speaker 4: first agreement, which you said, if you don't go to therapist.

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Speaker 4: You literally said, so I told him that if you

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Speaker 4: didn't see a therapist, I couldn't be with him. Stick

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's stick with that. We'll start seeing when now, So.

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Speaker 4: Why are you backing down? It seems like he's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: I guess he said we shouldn't do that, and so

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Speaker 4: I agreed. I think he's doing the same thing as before.

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Speaker 2: I think the reason she backed down. I don't blame her.

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Speaker 2: You see how persistent he was in that conversation of

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Speaker 2: understanding which there she took. Yeah, that would, dude, I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay, the same thing I got.

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Speaker 4: You, you know, because she she before, she she said

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's hard.

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Speaker 4: It's hard, just me thinking nobody can just change the behavior.

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Speaker 4: Overnight agreed it wasn't a matter of if, it was

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Speaker 4: But he's channeling that bizarre, obsessive behavior into other aspects

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, many of his behaviors count as further outbursts,

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Speaker 4: but he's refusing to go to therapy, then that's it.

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Speaker 4: If you said you have to hold strong to your

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Speaker 4: you've you've said that if he crosses, then you're done.

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Speaker 2: I understand blowing off some steme yeah, for work or

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Speaker 2: a line. Cross the line, give yourself some value and leave.

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Speaker 4: To try to avoid rambling, I'll do a point form

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Speaker 4: list of some examples just from the last few days. No,

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Speaker 4: we're going to the grocery store, and when he was

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Speaker 4: about to grab a basket, I said, oh, I actually

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Speaker 4: have my cloth bag. We can just use that as

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Speaker 4: a basket and then we know we won't buy too

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Speaker 4: much to fit, to which he responds, Oh, it's no

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Speaker 4: big deal, let's just get a basket. A perfectly normal

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to get enough for the cloth. Back,

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Speaker 4: I explained how I thought he meant we should get

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Speaker 4: more when we got the basket. He responds that he did,

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Speaker 4: in fact mean that, so I'm confused as to why

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Speaker 4: he's upset. He just keeps repeating, I just thought you

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Speaker 4: only wanted enough for the cloth bag. That's what you said,

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Speaker 4: and now you're getting more than we'll fit in the

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Speaker 4: cloth back. It's just not what you said. You don't

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Speaker 4: have a cloth bag anymore, you have a basket.

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Speaker 2: You can't reason with this man. It's like being in

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Speaker 2: a mind game.

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Speaker 4: Literally everything you do is a mistake to him. Oh.

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Speaker 4: I tried to calm him down by saying we could

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Speaker 4: just ask for an extra bag of checkout or put

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Speaker 4: the extra items back, and he made it clear neither

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Speaker 4: of those things were the point. He just kept repeating,

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Speaker 4: you said you want to just enough for the cloth bag,

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Speaker 4: and then you changed it. I had no idea what

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Speaker 4: he was actually upset about. Grocery store again, I'm looking

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Speaker 4: He obsessively needs to finish what he's saying at all times,

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Speaker 2: And since this is what like a wedship, yeah, you

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Speaker 4: Read well, Ronna said, okay, start to she said it

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Speaker 4: Wrestling Mama says, he's definitely nerdi vergent. Sounds like my son.

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Speaker 4: He has to know the plan always, he gets angry.

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Speaker 4: He's very sensitive. Sounds like autism to me as an

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Speaker 2: And he has to explain everything in detail.

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Speaker 4: I'm so unhappy and I just don't know what to do.

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Speaker 4: He's always been such a gentle person, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Man, Is there an update?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think attracts more of a neurodivergency now instead

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Speaker 4: Oh, Reese's my piece says the movie might have aggravated

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no update cash from deleted.

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Speaker 2: In these scenarios. If you ever find yourself, you gotta

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Speaker 2: give yourself aucy first before you can help others. How

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how can you help yourself?

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Speaker 2: to help.

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Speaker 4: And also if you bring up these things and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: There is one comment I guess because OPI did respond,

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Speaker 1: You're not overreacting pretty much what we all said, and

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Speaker 1: trying so hard to deal with it. But You're right,

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Speaker 1: he needs therapy. I mean, in an up like side

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Speaker 1: He needs a medical doctor, not therapy. I think he

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Speaker 1: We've said it, but those are those are pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like again, that makes a lot more

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Speaker 2: They're in it together. Oh man, good luck.

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Speaker 4: But we got another story coming right up, folks.

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Speaker 2: Yep bee, I faked being asleep to catch my wife

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Speaker 4: I see.

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Speaker 2: The past couple of months, my wife has been complaining

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Speaker 2: this to me before, sounds like cats. It got to

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Speaker 4: It does sound like things that cats do that.

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Speaker 2: I once had a cat try to build a nest

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Speaker 1: What yeah, a cat, I asked, cat.

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Speaker 2: He was like, clawed out my curly hair. Okay, he

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Speaker 1: Nest riley, I don't think cat's building nests.

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Speaker 2: He had sticks in his mouth. By the way, this

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Speaker 2: okay stories home subreddit. We're gonna give good advice, Schoofully,

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Speaker 2: but we don't have all the answers. We only know

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Speaker 2: say she's kept telling me. She's been getting less and

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Speaker 1: And I was also say Riley, the cat was probably

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Speaker 4: I think that if she's at the I'm leaving you

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Speaker 4: if you don't get rid of these cats. Line, probably

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Speaker 2: Get rid of the CATS's what's actually happening. She's still

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Speaker 4: Yeah, see if she still complains.

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Speaker 2: Tricker, babe, I got rid of the cats today. See

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Speaker 4: Oh, but they're still there.

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Speaker 2: They're just better at hide again.

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Speaker 1: The cats out of the bag.

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Speaker 2: I know where that came from. By the way, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Explain so wait really no, no, don't have time maybe later.

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Speaker 2: I legitimately started considering giving the cats to my sister

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Speaker 2: so I decided to run a test. I wait until

437
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 2: she said she was going to bed, then I let

438
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Speaker 2: the cat out of her bedroom, lowered my phone brightness,

439
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 2: and faked going to sleep. I just laid there in

440
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 2: the bed for the entire night, bored, but I definitely

441
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 2: didn't fall asleep.

442
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Speaker 4: That's impressive. That's hard to do, to just lay there

443
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 4: and not fall asleep.

444
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,880
Speaker 2: You were at least playing movies in your head, though

445
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 2: I can play Guardians of the Galaxy movie in my head.

446
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 2: I made sure to make the time stamps every thirty

447
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 2: minutes on my phone through Discord, just to be sure.

448
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 2: I marked down every noight to my cat's made. One

449
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: Ga had jumped down from something. I made a little

450
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 2: sound at three eighteen. I'm sorry. Just the fact that

451
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 2: we're doing this is crazy, and one eight food relatively

452
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 2: quiet by the bedroom door at four fifty seven am.

453
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,160
Speaker 2: Other than that, nothing had happened.

454
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Speaker 4: It's a specific Oh, he's like logging it because he's

455
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 4: he's faking being asleep, so he can't No, he can't

456
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Speaker 4: put it on his fond.

457
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 2: So how does he know this?

458
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 4: In his well, he has.

459
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 2: Fell with me lowered on brightness, so he's typing it.

460
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 2: Sure off. My wife slept from eleven pm until nine am,

461
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 2: ten solid hours asleep, and that morning she claimed she

462
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: had woken up at least seven times to open doors

463
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: from cat noises and cat jumping on her. Okay, so

464
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: my theory was she was cheating and she used the

465
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,360
Speaker 2: cat thing to just kind of, you know, say like, oh,

466
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: I've been up cheating, but the cats are the ones

467
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 2: that are blah blah blah blah blah.

468
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but she was asleep.

469
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Speaker 2: That's That's where I'm like, now I'm confused.

470
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 4: I think that I think she just doesn't like these

471
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 4: cats and she wants any reason to get rid of them.

472
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Speaker 1: Okay, Kean, I was gonna agree with you on that.

473
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Speaker 1: I think maybe she doesn't even know, like this is

474
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Speaker 1: very odd that she does. She think she's waking up.

475
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: Maybe she's dreaming it.

476
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: Is she dreaming it? Miss jay Bird?

477
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, miss Jaybird? Is she dreaming? I feel

478
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: like she's dreaming it, because you know, you'd have very

479
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: realistic dreams, but the fact that she's dreaming this every

480
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,959
Speaker 1: night is very peculiar.

481
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe she's having vivid dreams.

482
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was like once in a blue moon,

483
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: or like once a week. I get it. But it's

484
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: like every night the cat's in her dream.

485
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Speaker 4: She wakes up and lets the cats out.

486
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Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, we're not even like a seventh of the

487
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: way through.

488
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Speaker 4: Dang.

489
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 2: At this point, I was pissed because she was clearly

490
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 2: lying to me. I was exhausted and fed up with

491
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: the lies, so I bluntly called her out on it.

492
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: I told her, that's funny. I set up all night

493
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: to monitor the cats, and they weren't even in the

494
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: room at all last night. I have time stamps and everything.

495
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: So you've been lying to me, trying to convince me

496
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 2: to get rid of my cats. Why why tell me why?

497
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,719
Speaker 2: It feels like the villain scenes and all the movies.

498
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Speaker 4: Why did you do it? Why did you do it?

499
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Speaker 2: She just sat there, quietly shaking and looking pissed, then

500
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 2: got up and left without answering. She came back hours

501
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 2: later and ignored me whenever I tried talk to her,

502
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: and when I asked her how I'm the bad guy

503
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: in this situation, she finally said that I was treating

504
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: her like a child by lying about sleeping and staying

505
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: up all night just to see if she was lying

506
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Speaker 2: or not.

507
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: Then why are you lying?

508
00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 2: Girl? And that making time stamps and everything as if

509
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: I was an investigator was going too far and makes

510
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: me an obsessive a hole.

511
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 4: She's trying to She's trying to flip it on you, girl,

512
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 4: I mean guy, she's trying to flip it on you.

513
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: Did you see what she did?

514
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 4: I just flipped it?

515
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: Sure you did what?

516
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 4: She's just not a go Yeah? I guess not.

517
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: No, I think there's more to it. There has me more.

518
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 4: What do you think?

519
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: What more is there? Though?

520
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. This is very

521
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: weird stuff.

522
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: Because I was thinking cheating and she was using the

523
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: cats as the goat.

524
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 4: She's asleep. What is she doing? Why is she doing it?

525
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: I did it because she was threatening to make me

526
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: get rid of my cats or she'd leave me, and

527
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: her claims didn't add up. So am I an obsessive

528
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: a hole?

529
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: No?

530
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 4: Your wife is suspicious and I want to know what's

531
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 4: up with her?

532
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

533
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 4: What she hiding?

534
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: Some comments from very where is she? If Batman was

535
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: gay in that movie, he would have saved Rachel? What?

536
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: What think about it?

537
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I haven't seen the movie.

538
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 2: Think about who's Rachel? Some comments from Pepe. Yeah, ye,

539
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: small apartment, leaving area, bedroom, bathroom. She refuses to sleep

540
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: with the doors open, so keeping them open wasn't an

541
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 2: option to keep the cats from wanting in and out.

542
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 2: We're just under thirty, her a little younger than I.

543
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: Neither of us do recreational drugs. Though she's on antidepressants.

544
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: He's on that anti depress Since we.

545
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: Have another comment, not the a hole? That was gas

546
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: lighting and manipulative. And if she has issues with your cats,

547
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: she should have said so directly.

548
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah before she married you.

549
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: We have a reply not excusing her actions or lying

550
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: at all. She's clearly is trying to remove the cats

551
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: by lying. But I wonder if there is any possibility

552
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: she's got a sleeping disorder or medical condition it's making

553
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: her think she's waking up and hearing cats. I mean,

554
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: just to rule out that there is any actual reasonable

555
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: reason she thinks she's waking up. Doesn't solve the cat

556
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: hatred issue because she's admitted she wants them gone any

557
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: way possible, which is wrong. But I have to wonder

558
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: if there's something else going on here. Comment to does

559
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: she really dislike cats? I'm struggling to understand what her

560
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: reasoning would be if that isn't the case. It does

561
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: sound like you two are well suited on other fronts,

562
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: so it would be a shame to throw it away

563
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: over this. Is she stressed about other things and misdirecting it.

564
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: Perhaps I think she's lying about some I think she

565
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: just wants it out.

566
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm at a loss because we have so much more

567
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: to go.

568
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 4: Where could this go?

569
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

570
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: Where is this going? Who is this?

571
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: This might be the crazy story we have, like it

572
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: could end up with the DNA tas.

573
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 4: Maybe this is a hoggy down situation where she took

574
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 4: six benadryls erhaps and she's hallucinating these cats.

575
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: M Yeah, reaches my pieces says the wrong antitipressants can

576
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: mess with your brain.

577
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: Opie says she had cats of her own for years.

578
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: She had known me and my cats for four years

579
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: before we got married. Now she's been around them for

580
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: about ten years. Never had any problems with them, even

581
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: made good comments about how they've liven up the place. Strange,

582
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: we got an update. Okay, I need everyone's theories right now.

583
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: At the end, I think I think it's the simplest

584
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: it's the Aukham's raisor of it all. The simplest answer

585
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: is the right answer. I think that she just wants

586
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: it out. Okay, I think she's not. She doesn't want

587
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: to be in this relationship anymore, and she's blaming it

588
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: on everything.

589
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: Get rid of the cats soon, it would be op.

590
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. The fact that she's like not trying to find

591
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: a solution for the cats is like, either you get

592
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: rid of the cat, leave, you get yeah, oh I leave.

593
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 4: I feel like that's just I want to get out

594
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: of this relationship. That's my two cents.

595
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: The only other thing is the antidepressants. Yeah, that might

596
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: be playing a factor here.

597
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 4: I think that's why. I think that's another Those are

598
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: my two main theories. Her antidepressants, something's going on there,

599
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: or she just wants it out.

600
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: She seems like she's sleeping solidly through the night.

601
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just a dog person.

602
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: Kind she's just a dog even though she had cats.

603
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: She's a cat person.

604
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: No, she's just a dog person. She people can twitch,

605
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: people can change updates.

606
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Speaker 2: She's gone for now. That buy. I mean. I kicked

607
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: her out of the house. Why, because she's been in

608
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: the bedroom for hours now, watching YouTube, refusing to talk

609
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: to me about what's happened.

610
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 4: Well, maybe she's watching a good YouTube.

611
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: She's watching okay stores come it was GOODNA say. Maybe

612
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Dakota hit the two wegs for five hours.

613
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's got more time.

614
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: A few minutes ago, one of the cats started me

615
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: owing and scratching to get in the room. Within seconds

616
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: of him doing that, she ran over to the door

617
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: and kicked it really hard and scream this is all

618
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: your fault. F off.

619
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Speaker 4: Whoa you're screaming at the little kitty cat, little cute cat.

620
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: She's going, she said, and then she went back to

621
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: watching us. Our followers would never act like this.

622
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Scared the crap out of the cat, and he hid

623
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: under the couch. I opened the door and asked her

624
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: what to deal was that it could have hurt the cat.

625
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: She said, good f the cat.

626
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: Whoa.

627
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: That's why I told her to get out of the

628
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: house and go find somewhere else to stay for a while.

629
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Speaker 2: She tried to cry her way out of the situation,

630
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 2: but I told her I had enough. I'm done. She

631
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: had every opportunity to talk to me. Now she's screaming

632
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: at the cats and kicking the doors and scaring them.

633
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: I tried to listen and offered help, but she won

634
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: none of it too late. Honestly, if I have pets

635
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: with a significant other, those are my kids. Yelling at

636
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: my kids like that are.

637
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 4: Your responsibility, and the way that you treat them is

638
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 4: also pretty indicative of how you would treat a child.

639
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, I.

640
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: Like I think there is a difference between the trial

641
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: and a pet, but a pet is a trial run

642
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: to how are you gonna treat your kid?

643
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: Ultraviolet. She did not with the cat. She hit the door.

644
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: The cat was behind the door because the cat wanted

645
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: to get in, but still, nonetheless, if that door wasn't there,

646
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: I feel like she still would have done.

647
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: A cruel act towards an animal.

648
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: Not Okay.

649
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: As she was leaving, I told her she can call

650
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: me when she's calm down and willing to talk. I'm

651
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: just so drained at this point. I tried. I gave

652
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: her a chance to talk for all of this, and

653
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: she insisted there was nothing to talk about, my favorite

654
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: kind talk. I may have not addled it in the

655
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: most mature way, sure, but I tried. Maybe this can

656
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: be fixed. Maybe not. I just hope a few hours ago.

657
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: Now I just whatever, hate it, Sam your og host.

658
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories, but here's

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Speaker 3: three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

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Speaker 4: Update two, Oh man, I still don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm confused.

662
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Speaker 4: I think we need to go right into it because

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Speaker 4: I have no thoughts other than what I've already said.

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Speaker 1: He and I'm gonna get into it. And no, he

665
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Speaker 1: said he she cheeked the door.

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Speaker 4: No he the story said that she kicked the door.

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Speaker 2: Update two, two days later, My wife has been a

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Speaker 2: baker act. She did not hurt herself, just said something

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Speaker 2: concerning in public. I got a call from the hospital

670
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Speaker 2: this morning asking me to head over for some family therapy.

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Speaker 2: Apparently she finally wanted to talk. I'll be honest, I'm

672
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Speaker 2: pretty pissed at the reason why she's been so hateful

673
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Speaker 2: towards my cats. It's absolutely asinine.

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Speaker 4: Finally will know, we'll know the reason. Please, I need.

675
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Speaker 2: To know from a scale the one to ten of

676
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Speaker 2: how stupid this is. It's an eleven. Oh no, do

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Speaker 2: you do? You want to have any slide of a

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Speaker 2: guess for what it could have been? Any slide, no,

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Speaker 2: any reason why.

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Speaker 1: She hates guys because her a had a cat?

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, go, go littler. I just need one example

682
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Speaker 2: and I'll get right into it. I just want to

683
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Speaker 2: see what kind of thing you could have thought of.

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Speaker 4: I know the cat leaves, leaves its, she had the

685
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Speaker 4: litter around the house. That's my guess.

686
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Speaker 1: The cat, the cat farts.

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Speaker 2: The cat part okay, According to her, one of the

688
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Speaker 2: cats stepped on her laptop and ruined a story she

689
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Speaker 2: was riding.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, that can't be it. How did it ruin

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Speaker 1: I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: How did it ruin it? How did it delete it?

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Speaker 4: You can you can pull that back up? Did it

694
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Speaker 4: delete something in the reverse? Yeah? Control z.

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Speaker 1: There's no way that's the actual reason that it is

696
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Speaker 1: it is. If that's her actual reason, I'm like, stay here, done,

697
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Speaker 1: We're done.

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Speaker 2: She hated both cats ever since. I mean, that sucks.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even.

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Speaker 2: Touch your story, but it's not worth trying to emotionally

701
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: blackmail me into getting rid of them. I asked her

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Speaker 2: why she didn't tell me the truth and why she'd

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Speaker 2: been lying and refused to talk about it. When I

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Speaker 2: asked her, do.

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Speaker 1: We believe this? Do we actually believe this?

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Speaker 2: Her answer was because you wouldn't have gotten rid of

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Speaker 2: them otherwise, and explain that. When she saw I wasn't

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Speaker 2: willing to abandon them for her, she took offense and

709
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Speaker 2: made it a goal to have me pick her over them.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what if she wants that I'm picking the

712
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Speaker 1: cats over her. Woy, I'm allergic to cats. O.

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Speaker 2: Yep, this is over sickening. Don't know why she actually

714
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Speaker 2: admitted to it all. The woman with us asked me

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Speaker 2: how I felt about all of it. I just told

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Speaker 2: him the truth. I told her it was an ice run,

717
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Speaker 2: but I'm probably going to want a divorce. I was

718
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Speaker 2: asked why, and I told them I've seen a new, hateful,

719
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Speaker 2: malicious side of her that I want nothing to do with.

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Speaker 2: She was so set on getting rid of the cats

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Speaker 2: over a fan fiction being ruined that she manipulated her husband.

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Speaker 1: She's not even a writer, she's not.

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Speaker 4: She's writing fan fiction. Yeah, he was over job. She's like,

724
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Speaker 4: and Harry reached over to caress Draca's face, and then

725
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Speaker 4: the cat like steps on it, and like so it

726
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Speaker 4: just starts typing like worse fan fiction.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, no, better fan food.

728
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's better, it's better. It's like something fixes all

729
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Speaker 4: the bottles. No no, no, yeah, she's asleep and the

730
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Speaker 4: cat's out there being like and then Harry cats then

731
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Speaker 4: and then they went to get.

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Speaker 2: The other cat's probably mewed some answers to it.

733
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, not that the cats like got it,

734
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Speaker 4: got it, okay, yeah, the other cats.

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Speaker 1: The beta writer, I would look I would look her

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Speaker 1: in the eyes, like you you did all that because

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Speaker 1: a cat walked on your laptop. And she's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now you see my side of it, right, She's like,

739
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Speaker 1: now you.

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Speaker 4: Understand my one hundred k slow band fanfic was destroyed

741
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Speaker 4: by your cat.

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Speaker 2: My wife started shouting at me that I've betrayed her,

743
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Speaker 2: that I'm scum for choosing animals over her. At least

744
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Speaker 2: cats don't give ultimatums. Like she gave. I'm almost sure

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Speaker 2: I'm going for divorce. I'm very worried about having her

746
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Speaker 2: in the same house as my cats. I want my

747
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Speaker 2: cats safe. I don't want to worry about them being

748
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Speaker 2: harmed or disappearing. Screw that, I guess I'll do what

749
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Speaker 2: most of you suggested, keep the cats for home. The

750
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Speaker 2: wife nice. Not how I wanted to end it, but

751
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Speaker 2: this is always nice. If I may, I want to

752
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Speaker 2: clear up some things from the original post. I did

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Speaker 2: not stare at her all night.

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Speaker 4: We didn't even read the freaking post op. He was

755
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Speaker 4: there on his phone being like, just gonna make sure

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Speaker 4: she's not freaking walk it waking up. He wasn't like

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Speaker 4: at three a m she twitched at full seventy, she

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Speaker 4: at full forty five, she moved a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, so, if your partner has a problem with your cats,

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Speaker 2: make your cats wash this episode. Yeah, this is a.

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Speaker 4: We're on your cat's side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a cat friendly episode. We have a

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Speaker 2: mute TV with subtitles playing every night. I stubbly watched

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Speaker 2: TV while paying attention to the cat sounds. I'm not

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Speaker 2: allowed to install cat doors, and she won't let me

766
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Speaker 2: keep the doors open apartment rules. Why did I instantly

767
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Speaker 2: assume she was lying. I'm unfamiliar with mental health issues,

768
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Speaker 2: so when someone tells me events happened when they literally didn't,

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Speaker 2: I generally assume they're lying. Update two weeks later, Oh.

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Speaker 4: I hope it's like I haven't seen her because we're

771
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Speaker 4: broken up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she gone, I think you've got another cat.

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Speaker 2: Someone's got her. Yeah, I sadly believe we have a

774
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Speaker 2: missing cat.

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Speaker 4: No, don't take the cat. She's like, she's shaking the cat,

776
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Speaker 4: and she's like, if you don't write my fan fiction

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Speaker 4: for me, you're done.

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Speaker 2: All this over some fan fiction. Man, this is wild.

779
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: This really shows how far your wife has fallen. Yeah,

780
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: this is wild. I've never heard that excuse before, nor

781
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: am I I've heard like making a dog run outside

782
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Speaker 2: because they didn't like them because they thought, like, you

783
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Speaker 2: know what, Actually, this is the same scenario as all

784
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Speaker 2: the other ones. People think that they're prioritizing their pets

785
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Speaker 2: over them, and they get jealous.

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Speaker 4: That's what this is.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you don't even appreciate my fan fiction.

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Speaker 4: You never read it.

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Speaker 2: Update three two weeks later. It's over a divorce is inevitable.

790
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Speaker 2: She went full psycho. I thought her being baker acted

791
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Speaker 2: would help.

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Speaker 1: And leash the beast. That's what it did. Well.

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Speaker 4: Probably it's kind of shown that there's a lot more

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Speaker 4: going on here than you know, you expect it, or

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Speaker 4: anybody clearly expected.

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Speaker 2: Right after the last update, I left her a message

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Speaker 2: saying that I'll be here to support her if she

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Speaker 2: wants me to, and that she wants her items, she

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Speaker 2: will have to meet me at the apartment. I figured

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Speaker 2: she'd read it when she got released. After she was

801
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Speaker 2: released from the hospital, she texted me, I'm getting my crap.

802
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: I told her that her old key won't work anymore,

803
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Speaker 2: and then I got off work in about an hour

804
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Speaker 2: and can let her grab her things. Then she replied,

805
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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: So, She said, I don't thanks out. She's a She's

807
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Speaker 4: a last of us.

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Speaker 1: Ah, a clicker.

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Speaker 4: Please don't ever become a clicker.

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Speaker 2: Be in a horror movie. Okay, we'll never be able

811
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Speaker 2: to see you do You're pretty convincing, it is. I

812
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: rushed home from work to find my bedroom window smashed.

813
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Speaker 2: I live on the second floor with no balcony.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm scared you made up you made these cats

815
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Speaker 1: meet her into a villain dude.

816
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Speaker 4: She turned into catwoman.

817
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Speaker 2: She had broken the way and somehow climbed over the

818
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: outer wall to enter the window. She took her laptop, headphones,

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Speaker 2: and on her way out, she destroyed the cat litter box.

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Speaker 4: And the cat tree, terrifying.

821
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Speaker 2: I also couldn't find any of their toys anywhere. Thank

822
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Speaker 2: you to those who advised me to have my sister

823
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Speaker 2: wash my cats for a while.

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Speaker 4: Girl, get out of there.

825
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Speaker 2: I knew that was gonna happen.

826
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Speaker 4: Get out of there.

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Speaker 2: The cats are safe with her, and she doesn't know

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Speaker 2: where my sister lives. I called her and she instantly

829
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Speaker 2: declined the call and texted me what I told her

830
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Speaker 2: to pay to replace what she damaged. She tried to

831
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Speaker 2: be clever by responding with no amount of money could

832
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: fix what damage you caused. I didn't take anything either.

833
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Speaker 2: You owed me a new laptop for what for the

834
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Speaker 2: cat stepping on it?

835
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Speaker 1: What a dumb idiot.

836
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Speaker 4: No, I didn't even break the laptop.

837
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Speaker 1: I think she's like, oh, I didn't take anything. By

838
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: the way, where's my laptop? Like I've someone stole my laptop?

839
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Speaker 1: You eat? You buy me anyone?

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00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: I never even mentioned, and her laptop was gone, so

841
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: it's obvious she was lying yet again. Thankfully, we have

842
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: a tile account that let's just track items, and we

843
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: both have tiles in our cars. I found her car

844
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Speaker 2: in a Walmart parking lot and through the window I

845
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: could see all the stolen items, along with her laptop

846
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: and headphones. I just straight up called the police at

847
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: this point. Long story short, we're gonna be spending a

848
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: lot of time in court, mental illnesses or not. I

849
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: have no sympathy for her anymore. She broke into my apartment,

850
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: stole my crap, lied about it, try to get me

851
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: to pay for her crap. That's ignoring the fact that

852
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: she destroyed the litter box and cat tree. I'm one

853
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: hundred percent of certain that if the cats were home,

854
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: she would have hurt, unlived, or kidnapped them. I do

855
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: know that divorce is guarantee. I'd also like a restraining

856
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: order and money back for the damage. Yeah, but that

857
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: might be too much.

858
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: I you should get all those things, but first off,

859
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: you gotta get a restraining order. That's the most important,

860
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: Holy count, cause she's a look crazy.

861
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm just so done. I feel defeated. I didn't even

862
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: want to update I haven't had the will to do

863
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: much of anything. I have even called out a work

864
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: for multiple days in a row. I just lay around

865
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Speaker 2: the house thinking of what I could have done differently.

866
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: Was there a better ending for everyone? We have some comments.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think there was anything you could do differently.

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00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: She was lying, Yeah, how to full mental breakdown.

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Speaker 2: I think the only different thing you could have done

870
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Speaker 2: is had dogs.

871
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so. But even then she would have

872
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 4: you know, they would have done something ther fan fiction.

873
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 4: She would have crashed out.

874
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Speaker 2: They would have barked and told her to write a

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00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: better one.

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00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

877
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Speaker 2: Comments from op. I've officially moved as of a few

878
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Speaker 2: days ago. I'm currently paying rent at two places because

879
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Speaker 2: the place I live at I had to sign a

880
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Speaker 2: contract that if I were to leave before the lease ended,

881
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Speaker 2: that I needed to continue to pay rent until the

882
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Speaker 2: assigned date. It's expensive, but I'm safe. I already handed

883
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Speaker 2: the keys over to the complex and they confirmed with

884
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Speaker 2: me that is of a few days ago, I'm no

885
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Speaker 2: longer responsible for the state of the so Luckily, if

886
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Speaker 2: she damages anything or breaks in from this point forward,

887
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Speaker 2: I won't be held accountable financially. You have an update

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Speaker 2: one and a half months later.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I hope it just gets better. Yeah, I hope

890
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Speaker 4: everything's going much better for you. Yeah, that's my desire

891
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Speaker 4: for you.

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Speaker 2: So update one and a half months later, it's been

893
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Speaker 2: a while. I'm doing better. For anyone curious. My cats

894
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Speaker 2: and I have moved into a new place and only

895
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Speaker 2: my side of the family knows where I live. I've

896
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: documented everything, and I finally feel safe. She contacted my

897
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Speaker 2: family by showing up at their home and threatening to

898
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Speaker 2: sue me and fight a legal batter for ownership over

899
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Speaker 2: my cats unless they told her where I moved to.

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Speaker 2: Trying to get the fanfit cat.

901
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like, I need it's too good, I need

902
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: that cat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she threatened to fight for custody of my cats

904
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Speaker 2: that she mistreated. I have no idea why my family

905
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Speaker 2: didn't fold, because she basically threatened them with than an

906
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Speaker 2: easy win for me. Quite a few people that once

907
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Speaker 2: sided with her are now apologizing to me after seeing

908
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Speaker 2: how she's been acting. I'd quit my job because she

909
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Speaker 2: kept causing trouble for the company, and they gave me

910
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Speaker 2: the option to either quit on my own terms or

911
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Speaker 2: be fired. I have a new and better job that

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Speaker 2: no one else knows about a lot of friends and

913
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Speaker 2: family are here to support me and get nervous when

914
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Speaker 2: I get anonymous calls, but I overall feel much happier

915
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Speaker 2: now I even have someone interested in me. But honestly,

916
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Speaker 2: I still need time before I consider anything of the sort.

917
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no need to rush every.

918
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Speaker 2: Time I see someone get out of a relationship and

919
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Speaker 2: be like, but there's someone already talking to me, and

920
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: like pumped up breaks?

921
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Speaker 4: Pumped up breaks?

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Speaker 1: Do some you time?

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Speaker 2: They you?

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Speaker 4: So?

925
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it.

926
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Speaker 4: Unless unless, unless you don't need that.

927
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Speaker 2: I don't even see a scenario where that could happen.

928
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Speaker 1: What do you need?

929
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Speaker 4: No, I'm fine, I took time, but some people, some

930
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Speaker 4: people don't need time.

931
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Speaker 2: I don't see like how you can get out of

932
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Speaker 2: a relationship and then be with someone else. That makes

933
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Speaker 2: no sense.

934
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Speaker 4: I think sometimes it works for some people.

935
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Speaker 2: Like who who? You're Stop looking at me? I don't

936
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Speaker 2: know who. Never mind, I don't want to drag someone

937
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Speaker 2: else through into stocking drama. Thank you to those who

938
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Speaker 2: ask for an update and who have supported me. I'm

939
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Speaker 2: sure this will be my last update unless something else

940
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: whacky happens. Peace and we have another update.

941
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Speaker 4: And there you go.

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Speaker 1: Update number five, I've married one of my cats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

944
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Speaker 4: I hope it just gets better and better for you.

945
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Speaker 2: Oh, I guess it works for a lot of people. Yeah,

946
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: someone to get directly.

947
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Speaker 1: Into some people. The best way to get over somebody

948
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Speaker 1: is to get on top of somebody.

949
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Speaker 4: Okay, no, no, no, no, not that way. Yeah, no,

950
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Speaker 4: not to get over someone if you're over that person.

951
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Speaker 2: I just need one real life example under somebody and

952
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Speaker 2: then I could maybe see this point of view. I

953
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Speaker 2: guess we'll be looking Update five, four months later. I

954
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Speaker 2: didn't plan on ever updating again, nor ever looking at

955
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Speaker 2: this account again. That being said, a bunch of people

956
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: on YouTube, hiktok and Twitter similarly read my post to

957
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: their audiences recently, so out of nowhere emails were flooded

958
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Speaker 2: with notifications from this account.

959
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Speaker 1: Thanks. I mean, actually, you're welcome.

960
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: You're welcome.

961
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Speaker 2: Not really what I wanted to deal with being reminded

962
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Speaker 2: of the messy events I went through, but it is

963
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Speaker 2: what it is. An update is neither happy nor sad. Honestly,

964
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Speaker 2: nobody really wont here. My cats were hurt and frightened

965
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Speaker 2: by all of this, having been kicked at moving from

966
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Speaker 2: place to place, losing someone that they for a long

967
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Speaker 2: time considered their mother. They haven't been as playful as

968
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Speaker 2: they used to be, and the youngest one had been

969
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: urinating all around the house. The vet said it's a

970
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Speaker 2: behavioral thing. Due to what happened, Max's wife has been homeless,

971
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Speaker 2: CouchSurfing wherever she can. All I know is from a

972
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Speaker 2: mutual friend. She got into a substance usage from someone

973
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Speaker 2: who let her stay at her place. And I don't

974
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Speaker 2: even need to explain how that negatively impacted her, considering

975
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Speaker 2: she clearly already had issues.

976
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Speaker 4: Oh that's yeah. I mean, clearly she's gone through something

977
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Speaker 4: and there's not much that you can do.

978
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Speaker 2: I don't know much else other and she never got

979
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Speaker 2: mentally helped because she refused it when offered. She also

980
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Speaker 2: apparently uses an altered telling of the events as a

981
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Speaker 2: way of gaining sympathy from people. I myself have a

982
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Speaker 2: decent newer job after I had to quit my old

983
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Speaker 2: one because of her. I lost all of those amazing

984
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Speaker 2: benefits in great pay. Luckily, I have a new girlfriend,

985
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Speaker 2: no man.

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Speaker 4: Moving on quick. So for you, I don't know how

987
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 4: long was it.

988
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Speaker 2: They were together for ten years, but how long I

989
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Speaker 2: would say about six months later.

990
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: Ten years and ends badly, a.

991
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Speaker 2: New girlfriend and they're divorced.

992
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: If it's six months after they've.

993
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Speaker 2: Been separated, not divorce separated, it's not crazy soon. If

994
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Speaker 2: it's six months, then there have been other issues before that.

995
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. I think that that's the thing.

996
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: I think oftentimes when you sometimes have the more successful ones,

997
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: it's usually like relationship hasn't been working out for a

998
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 4: minut it and you're already kind of emotionally checked out,

999
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Speaker 4: and then you break up and it's like, I'm already

1000
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Speaker 4: like halfway over this person.

1001
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Speaker 2: We've been debating on dating for a while, and a

1002
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: few weeks back we decided to try it. We're having

1003
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Speaker 2: fun for the most part, but I still have bouts

1004
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: of anxiety interest issues after everything that happened.

1005
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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why I mean usually I wouldn't recommend

1006
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Speaker 4: jumping into it.

1007
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but be careful anything else. I mean, he's got

1008
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Speaker 2: a girlfriend, he's got a new job.

1009
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Speaker 4: I think, just to keep having conversations with your girlfriend

1010
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: about where you're at mentally, because if you're not completely

1011
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 4: honest about all of those anxieties and stuff that you're thinking,

1012
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Speaker 4: it's not going to go well, because this is pretty

1013
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: soon after a ten year relationship that did not end well,

1014
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: and so you gotta be really on top of it.

1015
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have moved on this quart Yeah, well, he says.

1016
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Speaker 2: When she first told me she saw my cat urinating

1017
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Speaker 2: on the carpet, I almost had a parent attack. It

1018
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: started questioning her.

1019
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: You're like, what do I have to say about my cats?

1020
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Speaker 2: I've been writing any fan fiction recently.

1021
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 4: He just starts quizzing her.

1022
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: After calm down, I felt terrible. I've been going to

1023
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Speaker 2: therapy and I've recently started meds for mental health issues

1024
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: likely caused by all this, So hopefully I'll be back

1025
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Speaker 2: to normal some points to it. As you can see,

1026
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Speaker 2: nobody won. Everyone is struggling in some way. It sucks,

1027
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. I guess I really

1028
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Speaker 2: don't want to focus on this much further. I'm going

1029
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: to keep notifications on for maybe like a day or so,

1030
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: then I'm turning them off and probably never coming back

1031
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: here again. I'm sorry if this update isn't what do

1032
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: you hope for, but it is what it is, and

1033
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Speaker 2: we do have some cat tax go TECs.

1034
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Speaker 1: There is the picture of the cats.

1035
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Speaker 2: Oh, check it out, go to my thing, go to

1036
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: the All is so cute.

1037
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Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story.

1038
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Speaker 2: Yep, Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to

1039
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: the stories. Put a quick three.

1040
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: Minute ad break from our sponsors that keep the show going.

1041
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Speaker 4: My husband extended his trip and left me scrambling with

1042
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: three kids.

1043
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: Sounds like you can handle it, though.

1044
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: And this comes directly from the r slash Okay story Time.

1045
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Speaker 4: Separate it. I feel like I'm losing my mind from

1046
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 4: the way my husband just reacted to me. My female

1047
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: thirty eight, it's been forty two of twenty years, is

1048
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: obsessed with hunting. He picked up the hobby about eight

1049
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: to nine years ago. Every fall I can count on

1050
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: him being out hunting pretty much any time he can.

1051
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: It was hard for me to adjust to this at

1052
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: first because I'm very anti pepews and because we have

1053
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 4: three kids with busy lives, ages nine, eleven, and fourteen.

1054
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Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Inside Classic ninety seven

1055
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Speaker 4: to seventy nine, and if you want to submit your

1056
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: own stories, go to the r slash Okay Storytime subvert it.

1057
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: We're here to give good advice. Goofley, but we don't

1058
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: have all the answers. We only know what we do,

1059
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: so let us know what you would do in the comments,

1060
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: and Opie says, but I've accepted that this is important

1061
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: to him, and I've worked hard to pick up the

1062
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Speaker 4: extra slack on weekends when he's busy doing his thing.

1063
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Speaker 4: About four years ago he started going out west to

1064
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Speaker 4: hunt in the fall. He's going out wished and staying

1065
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Speaker 4: anywhere from one week to two months, depending on his

1066
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Speaker 4: work flexibility. Immedia.

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Speaker 2: Now, dude, are you have three kids? Yeah, no, I

1068
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Speaker 2: get maybe two to three weeks.

1069
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Speaker 4: Even then two to three weeks, leaving young kids behind.

1070
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Speaker 2: Yeah no, that's two months.

1071
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Speaker 1: Hunting for that long?

1072
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Speaker 4: What is he hunting? Bigfoot? He better alright, better better

1073
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Speaker 4: catch him.

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Speaker 2: Here's my thing. If you're out there hunting for that long,

1075
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Speaker 2: you better bring back a year worth of supply of me. Absolutely,

1076
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Speaker 2: so we don't have to worry about going to better.

1077
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Speaker 1: See ten bucks to Buffalo oneeh one t rex.

1078
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Speaker 4: Even when you know people were hunting for food, like

1079
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Speaker 4: and that was like a necessity for just everyone. Yeah, well,

1080
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: weren't going for two months. It's just like maybe a week.

1081
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a leisure thing.

1082
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Speaker 1: Were you there?

1083
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a leisure thing.

1084
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 1: You're right.

1085
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Speaker 2: The way my family does it is we have land

1086
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Speaker 2: where we live and we go, like you know, we

1087
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Speaker 2: do it like from six It goes like five am

1088
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Speaker 2: to like noon on Saturdays, and then whatever we you know, get,

1089
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Speaker 2: we bring it back and we have it for the year.

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Speaker 1: My family does that. I think they do it like

1091
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Speaker 1: maybe the Friday to Sunday if they really do a

1092
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Speaker 1: long weekend. But they do so, they tell their families

1093
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Speaker 1: in advance, like very far into avancage.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine any more than a week.

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Speaker 2: This is like vacation time I did this year.

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Speaker 4: He's scheduled to go one week in September and another

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Speaker 4: week in November. No big deal. I handled the kids

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Speaker 4: solo most of the time anyway, clearly, and there were

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Speaker 4: no major things planned that he would miss. This summer,

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Speaker 4: my eleven year old started having anxiety about being away

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Speaker 4: from home overnight. She actually had two panic attacks on

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Speaker 4: different occasions, and I'm working with her and her doctor

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Speaker 4: on coping mechanisms. I had that I couldn't have sleepovers

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Speaker 4: when I was twelve because I got too anxious, and

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Speaker 4: then my mom had to pick me up at one

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Speaker 4: in the morning. And that happened for a whole year,

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Speaker 4: and then one day I just got over it. It's

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Speaker 4: been difficult and really overwhelming as a mom. My husband

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Speaker 4: really hasn't engaged in it at all. She has a

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Speaker 4: two night class trip coming up just a few days

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Speaker 4: after my husband was scheduled to get back from his

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Speaker 4: trip in September. In the past, this would not have

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Speaker 4: been a problem, but given her recent difficulties, I talked

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Speaker 4: to my husband and I volunteered to be a shopper

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Speaker 4: own on the trip so that she wouldn't have to worry.

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Speaker 4: My husband knew about it all, and we agreed it

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Speaker 4: would be best. Fast forward to tonight, a week after

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Speaker 4: he and I talked about it. I was confirming with

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Speaker 4: him that he would get off work in time to

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Speaker 4: pick our youngest up from school while I'm away, when

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Speaker 4: he looks at me and says, you know I'm staying

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Speaker 4: for two weeks, right, I requested another week off leave

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Speaker 4: and it got approved. Oh man, I think my mouth

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00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: actually dropped open. I pulled up our shared calendar and

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Speaker 4: it was showing the old dates I told him he

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00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: never told me, and I think I sounded a little panicked.

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Speaker 4: He aggressively responded with, well, you never talk to me,

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Speaker 4: so when would I tell you I have to stay

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Speaker 4: longer to make it worth going all the way out there?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, when is.

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Speaker 4: She supposed to talk to you? You're gone all the

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Speaker 4: time to hunt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're probably gone all the time to work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't really think you guys got to marriage here.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I mean, doesn't seem like he's a parent.

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Speaker 4: How much does he actually parent your kids?

1138
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like.

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00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: You were kind of a solo parent.

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Speaker 2: And how much time you guys like spinning together alone?

1141
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: Quality time?

1142
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: Like whenever it seems like whenever he can get time off,

1143
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: he spends it alone, not with you, the dear. I

1144
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: instantly switched into problem solving modes, staring at the calendar

1145
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: and trying to figure it out. He kept saying, what

1146
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: what now? I started to talk about how I'll have

1147
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: to find someone for two kids to stay with, but

1148
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: it will have to be two different families because they're

1149
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: in two different schools. Well, I'm stressing about the logistics.

1150
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: He responds, like, it's settled. Yeah, just ask random family

1151
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: we know. Then he walks out of the room.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

1153
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't.

1154
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Speaker 2: Know if this is a problem solved.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if this is going to continue. I followed,

1156
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 4: still thinking I must have looked worried. Maybe that's what

1157
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: prompted him to say, would I do now? They're always

1158
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 4: mad at me. I honestly didn't even choo out. I

1159
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: wanted to be mad, but I know better than to

1160
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 4: lose my temper when he pulls stuff like this anymore.

1161
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: So he was reacting to just my stress over trying

1162
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: to solve the problem. Oh, there is a little left

1163
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: to the story. You're one of our own. This is

1164
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: not okay for him to be doing. This is unacceptable behavior.

1165
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 4: It seems like he is not pulling his weight as

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00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: a parent or as a partner. If you agreed on

1167
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Speaker 4: something that he should follow through, not you to know

1168
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: that he changed the plans on you. I think you

1169
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 4: have to have a very serious conversation with him. You

1170
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Speaker 4: can't do this without letting me know because we're co parenting,

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Speaker 4: we're partners.

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Speaker 2: And I think we can kind of see the state

1173
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: of this relationship when he asks his work for another

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00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: week off and not coming to you first and game

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00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 2: planning Hey, what if I got.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't seem like he's talking to you at all,

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00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: not talking to you about the kids, doesn't seem to

1178
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: care about the kids or what happens to them, just

1179
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: expects you to figure it out. I feel like I'm crazy.

1180
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: How am I the bad guy in this story? You're not.

1181
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 4: I'm taking the kids into bed now, and I don't

1182
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 4: even want to go to my bed tonight because I'll

1183
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: have to rehash this again when I see him. I'm

1184
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: sure it's one thing to be so insensitive that you

1185
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: schedule being away from home for an extra week when

1186
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: you're supposed to watch your kids without telling anyone, But

1187
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 4: it's even worse when you add in guilt tripping your

1188
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: partner over it somehow. And that is the end of

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Speaker 4: that story, folks.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, thanks goodness, gracious, good luck. Yeah, good freaking

1191
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: luck with that. Like, I think it's time for bigger conversation.

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00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: Yes, big conversation, big change, or this is not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: If I found myself in this situation and I was

1194
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Speaker 2: taking care of the kids and my wife was out

1195
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: going to fashion extravaganzlos all the time, like, babe, we gotta,

1196
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: we gotta be us. Yeah, gotta rekindle what we have

1197
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: here because if we don't got to work. I think

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Speaker 2: this is a relationship.

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Speaker 1: We gott to rewire this relationship because it ain't working

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: like that.

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00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: Boom, just like that.

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Speaker 4: That's the end of that story. And we've have some

1203
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: comments from another video of ours. Wow, oh my wife

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Speaker 4: cheated and now wants an open marriage. And this was

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Speaker 4: posted on September tenth, twenty twenty five. The TLDR for

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Speaker 4: this story is op thirty three. Mail forgave his wife

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Speaker 4: thirty female after she cheated years ago, but now she

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Speaker 4: wants an open marriage. Opie agreed, only to find out

1209
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Speaker 4: she's been secretly hooking up with her best friend Chris

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Speaker 4: all along. Now Opie's done and divorce is on the table,

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Speaker 4: but his wife is begging for another chance. If you're

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Speaker 4: curious to know the full story, you can go watch

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Speaker 4: the full video.

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Speaker 1: But we have common number one by Bob d Shred

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Speaker 1: eight ninety four. The woman cheated on her husband and

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Speaker 1: us now trying to find a way to cheat more.

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Speaker 1: Open marriage is not the way to fix her cheating. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and common number two by Rachel v K. How can

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Speaker 1: an open marriage still be considered a marriage. It sounded

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Speaker 1: like people are diluting themselves. It sounds like something that

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Speaker 1: can't work out in the long run. These people need

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Speaker 1: to get therapy, not spicy sleep with other people, which

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Speaker 1: only compounds the problem.

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Speaker 4: You can't have an open marriage when you're already halfway

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00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 4: out the door.

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Speaker 2: You can only have an open marriage if you have

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Speaker 2: Google calendars and great structure.

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Speaker 1: And great communication, great communication and trust. And it's like

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Speaker 1: the most communication. Because there are people in our community

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Speaker 1: who do open marriages or are polly and they say

1231
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: communication is like, yeah, you can make it work, not

1232
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Speaker 1: even it's like the biggest key to the entire thing.

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Speaker 1: And trust. It's a lot. But this is not for everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's not for everyone. And we have a third and

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Speaker 1: here by World Domination ninety two. In my opinion, I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can open a closed relationship, especially if

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Speaker 1: it's been monogamous for a considerable length of time or

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Speaker 1: even began as monogamous, without going through professional counseling first.

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Speaker 1: In separate and couples, it's such a fundamental change in

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00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: the dynamics. I think it warrants exploring the home truths

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Speaker 1: about each other and the relationship that might facilitate this change.

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Speaker 1: I think casually bouncing into or expecting one party to

1243
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: jump into it puts them on the spot, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's the healthiest way to begin this new

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Speaker 1: foundation of their relationship.

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Speaker 2: I agreed, agreed, that's not a RelA. That's not a foundation,

1247
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: not a very sturdy foundation.

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Speaker 4: Really shaky. But that's the end of that story and

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Speaker 4: those comments and the end of this episode. So if

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Speaker 4: you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.