Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome to another TJ is starting episode
Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 2: My favorite episodes.
Speaker 1: Look can we go? We're going to talk a little
Speaker 1: reality TV today. And I am not a big reality
Speaker 1: TV fan, haven't been throughout my life. But what would
Speaker 1: you say is your Even before us you and I
Speaker 1: have started watching some things, but what is your would
Speaker 1: you say has been your number one? Like the show
Speaker 1: you made sure you watched if it was a dancing
Speaker 1: competition or if it's a housewive type show, what's what
Speaker 1: did you commit to?
Speaker 2: So it's evolved over the years.
Speaker 3: So I think my first reality show that I got
Speaker 3: totally stuck on was American Idol, without a doubt. I
Speaker 3: loved it, the girls watched it with me.
Speaker 2: It was a family show.
Speaker 3: There aren't many shows on TV these days, especially where
Speaker 3: you can watch with the family safely and so so
Speaker 3: American Idol, for sure, I was obsessed with that show.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 3: And I have not been a big reality TV show
Speaker 3: person per se. We've had to watch for what we
Speaker 3: did for a living oftentimes. But I kind of got
Speaker 3: into at one point in my life in the in
Speaker 3: the Bachelor series.
Speaker 2: I liked Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 3: I kind of fell in love with that because those
Speaker 3: were all the rejects who then got thrown on an
Speaker 3: island together. And then just like whatever happened happened, and that,
Speaker 3: I think then led to my next guilty pleasure, which
Speaker 3: was Love Island. It's embarrassing to admit, but in weak moments,
Speaker 3: or in like moments where I just couldn't think or
Speaker 3: I didn't want to accept my own reality, I went
Speaker 3: to Love Island, and then you and I when we
Speaker 3: got into our situation, we found an absolute amazing outlet.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't what was my question?
Speaker 3: You asked what reality shows I like?
Speaker 2: I just went through the timeline of it.
Speaker 1: What was my question?
Speaker 3: What reality shows I liked? And I think I did
Speaker 3: a very good job at answering you. Chronologic dive is
Speaker 3: what we call it, explaining everything, maybe over explaining.
Speaker 1: Would you say, though, that you are a reality TV fan?
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to call it trash TV. That's
Speaker 1: but a lot of people do call it. But it's
Speaker 1: a guilty pleasure is a good way to put it.
Speaker 2: It's a guilty pleasure. But I will at least feel
Speaker 2: like I choose No, I can't say that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a guilty pleasure. I was thinking that.
Speaker 3: So I don't like a lot of conflict. I like
Speaker 3: some conflict. I like fun, silly conflict. I don't like deep,
Speaker 3: like table throwing conflict.
Speaker 2: I have a limit to the conflict. I'm willing to watch.
Speaker 1: What the actual is happening right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just answering it as honestly as I posed.
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been a reality TV fan. The one
Speaker 1: that I did follow was Rachel Lindsays season of The Bacheloreat. Okay,
Speaker 1: that was one that I was committed to, watched every
Speaker 1: day and was she's a friend, so that's.
Speaker 3: It's also for work because we needed to watch those things.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you that one. But the first one
Speaker 1: that you and I found this was the first one
Speaker 1: that I was shocked by that I got into and
Speaker 1: it was completely random. Okay, how you're going to say,
Speaker 1: serving the Hampton, Yes, okay, this We're sitting in the
Speaker 1: room here with our producer Andy, who was a reality guy,
Speaker 1: and he's even looking at me like what.
Speaker 3: It's a little left field, it's a little here's why
Speaker 3: we liked it. Go ahead, because it was people who
Speaker 3: were actually doing a job that they would have done ordinarily.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a forced situation with fake friends. Yes, you're
Speaker 3: actually showing somebody at work and the conflict that often
Speaker 3: ensues at work.
Speaker 1: So I'm just look at Andy, our producer here, and
Speaker 1: he's he this is not what he was into. It
Speaker 1: was completely random. You and I of course, at the
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty two went into kind of a
Speaker 1: lockdown for a while to where we were inside together,
Speaker 1: just the two of us in hiding to a certain
Speaker 1: degree for whatever I think it was. H BO Max
Speaker 1: just popped up, I started it and really got into
Speaker 1: serving the Hamptons, which is about a restaurant called seventy
Speaker 1: five Main I think is right.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and we've eaten there.
Speaker 1: Okay. See that's the thing. We followed these folks on
Speaker 1: this journey of on the show to where they're working
Speaker 1: together at this place, all the conflict, you get it,
Speaker 1: it's a reality show. We then friend of yours Joe. Yes,
Speaker 1: as when we were in hiding, if you will, Joe
Speaker 1: and Preston both we wanted to just get out of town, yes,
Speaker 1: and they knew we couldn't go a lot of places
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, why don't you just we have
Speaker 1: a place here in the Hamptons that we rent out.
Speaker 1: You will just come hang out there, just get away
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Sure enough, we go there and
Speaker 1: we order food. Not knowing where we're ordering from, we
Speaker 1: order from a restaurant take out, and sure enough, it's
Speaker 1: seventy five Maine.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: By the way, the place that's featured in Serving the Hamptons. Okay,
Speaker 1: so to catch you up now, after we finished that one,
Speaker 1: we like, when is Serving the Hamptons too. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they had a season.
Speaker 3: I don't think they got renewed. We might have been
Speaker 3: the only one who, like everyone else, might have thought
Speaker 3: it was boring.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Then, holy hell, we were looking for something else. You
Speaker 1: actually googled best reality shows to stream or something.
Speaker 2: In the workplace.
Speaker 3: I think I said that because we wanted people to
Speaker 3: actually have a real function, like a real job, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't all manufactured. We wanted to have actually some
Speaker 3: reality to the reality.
Speaker 1: And what we found was below deck.
Speaker 3: Below deck and our lives were never the same ever,
Speaker 3: so it was like, I mean, not trying to throw
Speaker 3: shade on Serving the Hampton's but that was just nothing
Speaker 3: compared to what Below Deck offered.
Speaker 1: Wow, and below Deck, Look, folks, this show it is
Speaker 1: if you haven't and it's to your point, it's folks
Speaker 1: who are actually doing a job that looks difficult. Was
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of them. It's physical ability, but
Speaker 1: you need to know how to You're right? Do I
Speaker 1: need to throw this out here? Do I need to?
Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot of Technically, if you screw up,
Speaker 1: you could crash a boat, oh, without a doubt. Yes.
Speaker 1: So to see them going through that's what we respect.
Speaker 1: At least they were doing a job, and you can
Speaker 1: respect what they're doing. But we got to stream this
Speaker 1: if people don't know, did you all know you can
Speaker 1: stream stuff and they don't have commercials? Did you all know?
Speaker 1: We streamed how many scenes of this show?
Speaker 3: All that there was to stream, and we went through
Speaker 3: all of them, not just rolling Deck Mediterranean, there was sailing,
Speaker 3: there was all the down Under. We haven't gotten totally through,
Speaker 3: but we have gone through all the different iterations. We
Speaker 3: just wanted more and more and more.
Speaker 1: So if anybody knows what we're talking about, we say,
Speaker 1: below Deck the first thing out of your mouth after
Speaker 1: saying below deck has to.
Speaker 2: Be Captain Lee.
Speaker 1: It has to be because if you've watched that show,
Speaker 1: he has been the constant on that show. Look, we
Speaker 1: liked Blow Mediterranean, yes, and we liked Captain Sandy there
Speaker 1: as well, but the thing that got us into it
Speaker 1: and the guy who guided us through. They changed staff,
Speaker 1: but he was the constant throughout that show and if
Speaker 1: he it sounds crazy, but this was a guy who
Speaker 1: helped us through one of the craziest stretches yep, and
Speaker 1: difficult stretches of our lives.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not trying to be ridiculous here, but
Speaker 3: it actually makes me kind of emotional because I feel
Speaker 3: like Captain Lee and watching how he led this young,
Speaker 3: wild group of kids trying to put on their best
Speaker 3: to a make tips and just keep people happy and
Speaker 3: learn the trade of yachting. It was Captain Lee, And
Speaker 3: I told you from the beginning it felt. And I
Speaker 3: hope he doesn't get offended by this, but I have
Speaker 3: a very young dad, but he just reminded me of
Speaker 3: my dad, like how I was raised, his nose sense,
Speaker 3: like he wasn't going he was not going to take
Speaker 3: any bs from anybody, Like no silliness, like he was like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be just leading folks in the right
Speaker 3: way with the littlest to say about it. I'm just
Speaker 3: going to say what I'm going to say, and you're going.
Speaker 2: To shut up.
Speaker 1: So, Captain Lee, are you offended to hear that? Amy
Speaker 1: Robock says that you remind her of her dad? Is
Speaker 1: that offensive? That's a compliment? Is it not? Not?
Speaker 4: Definitely as a compliment. I'm flattered.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Oh Captain Lee.
Speaker 3: It's so fun to hear your voice and see your
Speaker 3: face and see us actually talking to you like we're
Speaker 3: I'm a little starstruck.
Speaker 2: I'll just speak for myself.
Speaker 3: Because we really did lean on you on it like
Speaker 3: so many ways, in so many ways. And then to
Speaker 3: come to find out you're from Michigan, I'm from Michigan.
Speaker 3: And then when I found out and this was like
Speaker 3: months after watching the show, because you're just referred to
Speaker 3: as Captain Lee, but your last name and my last
Speaker 3: name are almost identical, rose Bocher.
Speaker 4: That's freaky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Captain Lee Rosebach and Amy Robo we have to
Speaker 3: be related, Captain Lee.
Speaker 2: I'm going to choose to think we are.
Speaker 4: That's almost scary. It truly is in a good way.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, no, because you remind me of my family.
Speaker 3: You remind me of how I was raised. The things
Speaker 3: you say are the things my father would have said.
Speaker 3: So it was just it felt like I was watching
Speaker 3: a little bit of home, watching you out on the
Speaker 3: water commanding.
Speaker 2: This group of kids. It was great, It was It
Speaker 2: felt great.
Speaker 4: Wasn't a lot There wasn't a lot of gray area
Speaker 4: when you were growing up, was there?
Speaker 2: No, there was not. It's blackys.
Speaker 4: You knew exactly where you stood if you screwed up,
Speaker 4: and you knew what was coming, and if you didn't,
Speaker 4: you might get an added boy. Probably not because you
Speaker 4: didn't get ada boys for doing what you were supposed
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 3: Exactly, you don't get praised for doing what's expected of you,
Speaker 3: but if you don't do what you're supposed to do,
Speaker 3: there will be consequences.
Speaker 2: And that is exactly how I was.
Speaker 4: I ever wanted to hear was wait did I tell
Speaker 4: your father?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: That was it's the worst. Oh my goodness, that's so funny.
Speaker 4: And if it happened early in the morning, you had
Speaker 4: all dated.
Speaker 3: To sweat it out, to sweat it out. Yes, no,
Speaker 3: German Catholics are very specific. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: were raised the same way, but yes, German Catholics both sides.
Speaker 3: My mom is Schtopfel and my dad is a Robot,
Speaker 3: and we were all German Catholics, So I think, yes,
Speaker 3: there was a familiarity and just and there's.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just felt so connected to you and to everything
Speaker 3: you had to say. It was it was cool and
Speaker 3: I needed that.
Speaker 4: Actually, I when I found out your last name, because
Speaker 4: I'd watched you for years, and I thought there's something there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there has to be really.
Speaker 4: There, really is it just can't. I'm not a firm
Speaker 4: believer in coincidence.
Speaker 2: Well neither am I at all.
Speaker 1: But you're also not of a believer yet in twenty
Speaker 1: three and me, you say you don't necessarily want to
Speaker 1: trace all that DNA.
Speaker 4: Like I said, my dad was rather prolific, So I'm
Speaker 4: not sure if I want to open up that Pandora's
Speaker 4: box or not.
Speaker 3: It has been that for many people twenty three and
Speaker 3: me and all of those other new DNA that's yes,
Speaker 3: yea right find relativetion nevernew you had.
Speaker 4: You've got to be careful what you ask for.
Speaker 1: Ketie, What do you think when you hear something like
Speaker 1: she's describing. I mean, people have all kinds of stories.
Speaker 1: I'm sure fans have talked about just you know, they
Speaker 1: just didn't enjoy the show is one thing. But I
Speaker 1: mean maybe you do remind people of somebody in their family.
Speaker 1: Maybe they feel a different type of connection the way
Speaker 1: Robot here that I'm sitting next to does. What do
Speaker 1: you do? You get a lot of that kind of
Speaker 1: thing from people.
Speaker 4: I do. I get a lot. You remind me of
Speaker 4: my dad, my granddad, And I think that I come
Speaker 4: from a generation where things are pretty cut and dried.
Speaker 4: You know, you didn't you knew when you screwed up,
Speaker 4: you knew when you didn't and I mean you knew
Speaker 4: it before you finished doing it, and you knew what
Speaker 4: was going to happen, and then you had to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 4: is the going up going to be worth the coming down?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And it's crazy too, like you think about it so
Speaker 3: many people. Everyone parents differently, but there is something to
Speaker 3: that knowing what the expectations are and knowing what the
Speaker 3: consequences will be. I think so often kids these days,
Speaker 3: I sound so old, but don't know that though, or
Speaker 3: they aren't being taught the same way we were.
Speaker 4: Now they don't have the structure that I feel they need,
Speaker 4: and they don't have the discipline, and they don't have that.
Speaker 4: A lot of them don't have that male figure in
Speaker 4: their life. It sets an example. You know, you get up,
Speaker 4: you go to work every day, and if you don't
Speaker 4: go to work, you do your job at home. Whatever
Speaker 4: your job is, you do it. You don't make excuses.
Speaker 4: You just suck it up no matter what the issue is,
Speaker 4: and you get it done. Period. So yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: like my professor at college, so who cares?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's my dad.
Speaker 1: Well, Captain Lee, he's my professor is triggering me, and
Speaker 1: it's it's reminding me of a trauma that I had,
Speaker 1: Captain Lee, and he should not. My professor needs to
Speaker 1: be aware of these triggers for me. Captain Lee.
Speaker 4: Your professor doesn't give two about your trigger.
Speaker 3: Oh Captain Lee, I wish there were more of you
Speaker 3: in the world. It just no, it really is a
Speaker 3: slice of hope.
Speaker 1: It makes me laugh.
Speaker 3: Sorry, and my daughters, I think, would say the same
Speaker 3: thing because I'm I'm the mean mom apparently, But that's
Speaker 3: just I think there is something to that, and you
Speaker 3: give them to the.
Speaker 4: Keep being the mean mom than you, you keep being
Speaker 4: the parent first. Yeah, there's plenty of time later on
Speaker 4: to be friends. But if you if you're not, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, if you're not the parent first, then you're
Speaker 4: probably not going to raise the type of show that
Speaker 4: you want to be friends with later.
Speaker 3: So true, so true and just. And you take that
Speaker 3: philosophy and you bring it on the boat. How did
Speaker 3: that work?
Speaker 4: I do? It worked fine for me. For some of
Speaker 4: the crew members not so much. And production and I
Speaker 4: had an understanding from Jump Street that you know you
Speaker 4: have a job to do. I have a job to do.
Speaker 4: My job supersedes your authority. You charted the boat, you
Speaker 4: got me with it, so you can film me all
Speaker 4: you want. I'm going to do my job as I
Speaker 4: understand it, and that's to make sure that everybody on
Speaker 4: this boat is safe and I don't do any harm
Speaker 4: to the boat or anybody on it. And if we
Speaker 4: can do whatever it is you'd like to do within
Speaker 4: those confines, I'm all in. But don't ask me to
Speaker 4: compromise because there won't.
Speaker 1: Be take the cameras away, Captain Lee, did you do
Speaker 1: everything the exact same way you did it that we
Speaker 1: sell on camera. If those cameras weren't there, you've been
Speaker 1: the same guy.
Speaker 4: Didn't make any difference. Cameras are no cameras. That's the
Speaker 4: way I've been running boats for over almost forty years now,
Speaker 4: and I doubt it's going to change now.
Speaker 3: I was just going to ask, it's the way you've
Speaker 3: been running boats. It's the way you see fit to
Speaker 3: run boats. But when you watch yourself back, did you
Speaker 3: have any thoughts like that was too much or maybe
Speaker 3: that was too harsh?
Speaker 4: You know, maybe early in my career, before all of
Speaker 4: the TV stuff started, I may have been a little
Speaker 4: more strict than I actually needed to be. But I
Speaker 4: think that's a process that all captains go through, a
Speaker 4: maturation process where you learn that everybody's different and some
Speaker 4: people need to be handled differently. It's not a one
Speaker 4: size fits all. So where you can take a very
Speaker 4: firm and stern approach with one individual because their psyche
Speaker 4: can handle it, you'll get more from another individual by
Speaker 4: maybe taking a software approach, not cream off Casper milk
Speaker 4: toast approach, but maybe a little more subdued approach.
Speaker 1: Can you spot them from a mile away, even before
Speaker 1: you start a charter season, can you say, yep, that's
Speaker 1: going to be a problem like this, that's going to
Speaker 1: be or were you even surprised once you got to
Speaker 1: know them a little bit.
Speaker 4: They're pretty easy to spot.
Speaker 2: Has anyone surprised?
Speaker 4: Level of transparency is just like, seriously.
Speaker 1: Tell us this, Captain Lee. If the two of us
Speaker 1: t J. Holmes and Amy Robot stepped on to your
Speaker 1: deck as new members.
Speaker 2: Of the crew, she's chiefs to lead deckhand.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, lead deckhand. Okay, what would you say these
Speaker 1: two are going to be for you and your crew?
Speaker 4: Have I been able to look at your resumes?
Speaker 1: Yes, and they are stellar.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well I've never met anybody that that impellised your resume.
Speaker 1: Right, we were fired once. We probably gonna leave that off.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was fired once as well. Okay, I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't leave that off off my resume. I was actually
Speaker 4: quite proud of the fact that I was fired.
Speaker 1: Wow, why were you fired? Who would have fired you?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: It was the owners of Utopia two, in Utopia three
Speaker 4: and four and five, but extremely demanding people, and I
Speaker 4: was fired for bringing something to one of the owner's
Speaker 4: attention that she really didn't want to see. And I
Speaker 4: didn't really care she wanted to see it or not,
Speaker 4: because it was the truth and I was doing the
Speaker 4: right thing. And I've always been a firm believer that
Speaker 4: you can never go wrong by doing the right thing.
Speaker 4: So when she fired me, I thought, there.
Speaker 2: Is a god hallelujah. Wait what did she not want
Speaker 2: to see?
Speaker 4: Oh? You don't really want me to say?
Speaker 2: Oh I do, though, I kind of do.
Speaker 4: Well. We had a My boat was primarily used as
Speaker 4: a floating hotel. When they'd have too many guests for
Speaker 4: the big boat, they'd send them over to my little
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixteen foot fed ship and they would
Speaker 4: spend the night. It was one of their executives, and
Speaker 4: he came rolling in about six thirty or so in
Speaker 4: the morning. Of course, our crew was all up and
Speaker 4: took a shower and promptly passed out. But while he
Speaker 4: was in the shower, he left something behind that he
Speaker 4: should have left in the toilet. I told you you
Speaker 4: didn't want to know.
Speaker 1: Wait, but you got fired for that. Wait a minute, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll get better.
Speaker 4: It's better. Okay, the chiefs do come, do comes upstairs?
Speaker 4: And she goes kat. She said, you have to come
Speaker 4: downstairs with me, and I told I said, I have
Speaker 4: no I have no wish to even join you downstairs.
Speaker 4: I said, that's just She said, no, you have to
Speaker 4: because won't believe this. So I went downstairs and bigger
Speaker 4: than life there it was, so I uh. I took
Speaker 4: a picture of it and I sent it to the
Speaker 4: owner and I said, really that was it? One word text?
Speaker 4: Really uh. I was terminated the next day.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow, the reason being, what the way they
Speaker 1: had to give you some reason for that?
Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because like on a boat, I am
Speaker 4: hr M right, So if you're gonna if you're gonna
Speaker 4: get on a boat as a steward, as a deckhand,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna go, well, I'm gonna take this hr.
Speaker 4: Well you're looking at HR literally because my first names here,
Speaker 4: my last name's rossback, I am HR. What's your problem?
Speaker 1: I was not expecting that story was that was a
Speaker 1: new one.
Speaker 4: So I was so glad I got fired.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, hindsight sometimes is well twenty twenty right,
Speaker 3: you learn as you go.
Speaker 1: Do you know, keptain Lee, do you have a rolling count?
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people you have fired in
Speaker 1: the seasons of below.
Speaker 4: Deck everyone that deserved it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so not too few, not too many, the exact
Speaker 1: right number now.
Speaker 4: I think there. I think the most I'd fired I
Speaker 4: think was four in one season, but I don't There's
Speaker 4: only one person that I actually I fired him, and
Speaker 4: I did regret it, but not for the reasons you
Speaker 4: might think. He he had embellished his resume, which is
Speaker 4: another word for lying, and he was such a nice kid,
Speaker 4: and he tried so hard, but in a million years,
Speaker 4: he was never going to get it. And to me,
Speaker 4: you have to get it in order to function on
Speaker 4: a on on Omega yacht.
Speaker 2: I think I remember this. Who was this?
Speaker 4: That was Andrew Sturby.
Speaker 2: Yeah we have, we have and young blond.
Speaker 4: Haired kid left the porthole in his stateroom open, almost saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, remember that?
Speaker 2: So oh you could tell heart.
Speaker 4: He did, and I said, Andrew, I said, I mean,
Speaker 4: this is really breaking my heart. I hate to do
Speaker 4: this to you. I said, but you're just too much
Speaker 4: of a risk and I don't have the time to
Speaker 4: to really train you. When what I really meant is,
Speaker 4: if I had a million years, you're never going to.
Speaker 2: Get it, I do.
Speaker 4: I told you you know he was, and he was
Speaker 4: so good with the guests. They loved him, and I
Speaker 4: just said, you know, you're going to have to go.
Speaker 4: And I think that's the only one that I actually regret.
Speaker 4: There were quite a few that I enjoyed. I really did.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's something gratifying about being able to dish
Speaker 4: out to some people who desperately deserves it what they
Speaker 4: have coming.
Speaker 2: I think I think everyone can relate to that when
Speaker 2: you and I.
Speaker 4: Just I don't feel bad about it one iota.
Speaker 1: Maybe you two are related, no, but I get that.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you feel like no one's ever
Speaker 2: told this person no.
Speaker 3: Before, actually and you get to be the one to
Speaker 3: do it, and maybe that will be the thing that
Speaker 3: makes them wake up to how they act.
Speaker 2: There is something satisfying about that. I totally. I get
Speaker 2: that you and I are on the same paper. Who
Speaker 2: was the most enjoyable to fire?
Speaker 3: Do you know?
Speaker 4: The most enjoyable to fire was Dane. Dane was a
Speaker 4: deckhand and I'd sent the crew out to a private
Speaker 4: resort and they had to resort all to themselves, overnight, rooms,
Speaker 4: open bar, They had everything that they wanted, so two
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning, I get a call from Meddie
Speaker 4: and he said cat. He said, Dane's out of control.
Speaker 4: He said he can't stay here. So two o'clock in
Speaker 4: the morning, I'm scraunging around trying to find somebody to
Speaker 4: hop on a boat go to this other island and
Speaker 4: pick up Dane.
Speaker 3: Even just the name Dane, you keep saying it such
Speaker 3: a way, it's annoying.
Speaker 4: We had we had Dane down in the if we
Speaker 4: have film with him down in the crew mess. He's
Speaker 4: got a bottle of Crown Royal in one hand and
Speaker 4: a Budweiser in the other, and he's alternating hugs and
Speaker 4: he's talking to himself and we can't understand what he's saying,
Speaker 4: so we slow the tape down to try and figure
Speaker 4: out what he's saying. We still can't understand. We had
Speaker 4: it to damn near stop and we're still so we
Speaker 4: had to just use subtitles of all the special characters
Speaker 4: that you're.
Speaker 2: Supposed to Oh, I love when you do that, yes.
Speaker 4: Because we had no idea what he said, garble drunk.
Speaker 4: He gets he gets back to the bug. This is
Speaker 4: like three o'clock in the morning, and now there's a
Speaker 4: knock on my door. It's one of the producers. They go, cat,
Speaker 4: we've got a problem, and I looked at him. I thought, oh,
Speaker 4: do you ever have a problem. You know, it's three
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. I've got to be up in
Speaker 4: three hours. This said, really better be good. He said,
Speaker 4: we've got Dane down on the dock and he refuses
Speaker 4: to leave the boat until he gets his tip money.
Speaker 1: Wait did this play out in the season for people
Speaker 1: to see. I don't remember that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well you didn't see that.
Speaker 2: I see that.
Speaker 4: Because there were certain things they transferred there you probably
Speaker 4: didn't want to see anyhow, I said, all right, I'll
Speaker 4: get his tip money for him. So I gave the
Speaker 4: producer his tip money. I got back into bed. Fifteen
Speaker 4: minutes later, there's another knock on the door. Now it's
Speaker 4: twenty after three or so in the morning, and he said,
Speaker 4: Dane's really really getting out of control and he won't leave,
Speaker 4: and now he's starting to verbally assault, you know, like
Speaker 4: the executive producer's wife family. He's just gone off the
Speaker 4: deep end. And he said, you know, will you come
Speaker 4: down and help us out with it? And then I
Speaker 4: said absolutely, I will, I said, but I don't want
Speaker 4: anybody questioning my methods of how I deal with it.
Speaker 4: I said, but trust me, it will get dealt with.
Speaker 4: I said, because I need to get some goddamn sleep here,
Speaker 4: I said, you guys want me up at six thirty
Speaker 4: in the morning, and it's three thirty now. So I
Speaker 4: went down there and we had two security guards there
Speaker 4: and they're just standing off in the background. And I
Speaker 4: walked up to Dane and I said, I asked him
Speaker 4: if he was doing all right. You got your mother, yeah,
Speaker 4: I got my money. I said, you're not going to
Speaker 4: stay on board the boat tonight. I said, we have
Speaker 4: a hotel room for you. I said, and you see
Speaker 4: these two gentlemen over there. I said, they're going to
Speaker 4: escort you to your hotel room and then in the morning,
Speaker 4: you and I will have a conversation. And he looked
Speaker 4: at me and I said, wait a minute, I said,
Speaker 4: don't say anything. I said, you do have options here.
Speaker 4: I said, you can walk with these two gentlemen to
Speaker 4: your hotel room in a peaceful fashion. I said, or
Speaker 4: you can get carried to your hotel room. And I said,
Speaker 4: I know which one I would prefer, but it's up
Speaker 4: to you. And he took his envelope of money and
Speaker 4: put it in his back pocket and went with the
Speaker 4: gentleman as I re quested, and made it to his
Speaker 4: hotel room. Then he comes. We get him back at
Speaker 4: eight o'clock in the morning. Now, mind you, he's still hammered.
Speaker 4: There's no way as drunk as he was that he
Speaker 4: was going to sober up three or four hours just
Speaker 4: wasn't going to happen. And all apologies, all this, all that,
Speaker 4: and he said, well, he said, you know, I said,
Speaker 4: I guess I should hand him my resignation. And I said, no, no,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, you have not earned the prov of resigning.
Speaker 4: Your dumb ass is fired. And were I you, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't put me down for a wh I would delete
Speaker 4: this part of your life.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 4: So he said, okay, he says, I'll go down and pack.
Speaker 4: I said no, no, I said, you won't go down
Speaker 4: and pack. You're not packing anything. Our people will pack
Speaker 4: for you, will ship it to wherever it is you
Speaker 4: want to go. You're going straight from this office to
Speaker 4: the airport and you're getting on a plane and you're
Speaker 4: leaving you guys, any questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, you have to tell us you've been doing
Speaker 1: this for so long before cameras ever became a part
Speaker 1: of it. Have you always had debt crews that were
Speaker 1: like this, even before we were able to see what
Speaker 1: life was like on a boat.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: I remember I had an engineer one time, and this
Speaker 4: was on Nick Cage's boat and I was bringing it
Speaker 4: back from the Hampton's somewhere up in Connecticut back down
Speaker 4: to Lauderdale. And I didn't know it at the time
Speaker 4: because I didn't know the guy well enough. But the
Speaker 4: engineer he passed out well I should have said, he
Speaker 4: looked like he fell asleep during a team meeting, staff
Speaker 4: meeting in a sleep. He faced drunk and I took
Speaker 4: his class and it was like a tumbler. It was
Speaker 4: straight vodka.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the engineer, the engineer, a lot of people's lives
Speaker 3: at seek.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's I mean, it does happen, not just
Speaker 4: on television. So that's why it cracks me up sometimes
Speaker 4: when people say it's all scripted, and I said, trust
Speaker 4: me when I tell you, if it was scripted, my
Speaker 4: life would have been so much easier. I would have
Speaker 4: known what was coming. I could have you know, just
Speaker 4: read my lines and everything would have been great. But
Speaker 4: the stuff that happened it just like straight out of
Speaker 4: the box and you get hit right between the eyes
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 2: How about the guests on the show, I we from
Speaker 2: the very beginning, we're curious about how you picked them
Speaker 2: and what the incentives were for them to be on
Speaker 2: the boat, because obviously a lot of them some of
Speaker 2: them act just fine, but many of them don't, and
Speaker 2: were like, who would put themselves out there to be
Speaker 2: talked about, ridiculed?
Speaker 3: And you know for folks who are on the outside
Speaker 3: looking in, just they look like general.
Speaker 2: FLEs like we were just curious about that process.
Speaker 4: Well, there's there's two things. When we first started the series,
Speaker 4: it was so unknown and I'm not going to say
Speaker 4: nobody knew what they were doing, but nobody had filmed
Speaker 4: charter guests on a moving boat with all of the
Speaker 4: crew and then all the camera crew and all the
Speaker 4: audio techts and everything that we had to have on
Speaker 4: board had never been done before. And so we were
Speaker 4: actually we weren't charging anybody for the charters, and then
Speaker 4: we ran into an issue because we weren't charging anybody
Speaker 4: for the charters if they didn't have some skin in
Speaker 4: the game. At the last minute, they'd find what I
Speaker 4: call a BBD, a bigger, better deal, Oh wow, and
Speaker 4: they wouldn't show up.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: So then I'm you know, myself and the production crew
Speaker 4: were sitting there. Now we got four days to fill
Speaker 4: with no guests.
Speaker 1: Then think about that.
Speaker 4: So we started charging, and they did get a heavily
Speaker 4: discounted rate, and it was really a great deal for them.
Speaker 4: You know, generally they got like I remember a couple
Speaker 4: of seasons we'd charter. We would rent a mansion, a
Speaker 4: villa that would accommodate six or eight people. They'd have
Speaker 4: their own chef swimming pool, and they would get there,
Speaker 4: spend two days in the villa and then come on
Speaker 4: board the boat, spend three days there and then go
Speaker 4: back to the villa for another day or two and
Speaker 4: then on their airfare or on their plane to get
Speaker 4: out of there. And we would charge them X amount
Speaker 4: of dollars. But everything was inclusive.
Speaker 2: So that's a really good deal.
Speaker 1: That's a great deal.
Speaker 4: It was a really good deal for them. And you know,
Speaker 4: unless they wanted a case of Louis tray, then you know,
Speaker 4: they stayed within limits. Then they were okay, But what
Speaker 4: used to amaze me tremendously was when you talk to
Speaker 4: people like crew, they you entered them and you want
Speaker 4: this is why you want them, because they're an interesting personality.
Speaker 4: They seem like they're fun to hang out with, they're
Speaker 4: going to be great on film. They look good, they're beautiful,
Speaker 4: they're handsome, and they've got an engaging personality, and that's
Speaker 4: why you hire them, or that's why you agree to
Speaker 4: have them come on board as guests. And then as
Speaker 4: soon the very split second that the cameras start rolling,
Speaker 4: they just morph into the biggest volume bear.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Camera comes on and they're just totally different, and you're
Speaker 4: going like, no, what the hell just happened here?
Speaker 1: Why? But why wouldn't you want to look bad? I mean,
Speaker 1: that makes them look worse. Why wouldn't they be on
Speaker 1: their best behavior and telling the crew so well?
Speaker 4: With the cameras rolling, they would get together and conspire,
Speaker 4: the guests would to think of difficult situations to make
Speaker 4: for the crew.
Speaker 2: Kidding me, Wow, I'm shocked by that.
Speaker 1: Why wow?
Speaker 4: And it was just you know, and we dealt with it.
Speaker 2: Wow, I know we watched it. Was there a group
Speaker 2: that shocked you the most.
Speaker 4: Didn't happen a lot, but you know, because there were
Speaker 4: so many really really great charters that I had throughout
Speaker 4: my career and below deck the Two's, for example, LeAnn
Speaker 4: Dewey and Shawnee her husband from the blind Side. Yep,
Speaker 4: they were just great and you just loved hanging around
Speaker 4: with them and cameras on or not, they didn't change
Speaker 4: who they were or what they were. I remember having
Speaker 4: some housewives on board and I thought, oh my god,
Speaker 4: talk about high maintenance. I'm an overload here, and when
Speaker 4: the charter was over, couldn't have been further from the truth. Well,
Speaker 4: they were just the nicest group of it was Claudia
Speaker 4: Jordan and Cynthia Bailey.
Speaker 3: Cynthia her mom and daughter, and we.
Speaker 4: Just had a great time with them. They weren't high maintenance.
Speaker 4: They were a lot of fun. And then there were
Speaker 4: some other guys. I mean, you just you take. It's
Speaker 4: kind of like the luck of the draw.
Speaker 1: Kem Lea advise folks who maybe if they're not even
Speaker 1: maybe they will be a charter guest somewhere on some
Speaker 1: boat some day. But there's something we see it a
Speaker 1: lot with airline travel to where people who you feel entitled,
Speaker 1: that that flight attendant or that deckhand or that stewards
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like your servants. They people feel for
Speaker 1: whatever reason in those like you're there to serve them
Speaker 1: and obey their every command. Just in general, give some
Speaker 1: advice to people to give a break to maybe some
Speaker 1: of these folks who are serving them in travel.
Speaker 4: The people that behave that way with that sense of entitlement.
Speaker 4: Generally it's new money. It's not old money, because old
Speaker 4: money is a product of class culture and breeding. The
Speaker 4: new money they have that sense of entitlement about them
Speaker 4: for no reason whatsoever, and they should the people my crew,
Speaker 4: and I've told some charter guests on charter, no, my
Speaker 4: crew are not your slaves period. You will treat them
Speaker 4: with respect or I'll turn this boat around and head
Speaker 4: back to the dock. Dump your ass off and keep
Speaker 4: your money you have.
Speaker 2: You've kicked a guest before, we've seen it.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
Speaker 4: I have no problem doing that.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And you kicked her off the lorus.
Speaker 2: That was amazing. And now and now.
Speaker 4: Season one, I kicked Johnny.
Speaker 2: Eyelash yes, yes, oh yes, And he's the.
Speaker 4: Guy that came rolling down the dock a group of
Speaker 4: photographers and he's wearing this nasty, dirty, old bathrobe. Do
Speaker 4: you remember that, teacher?
Speaker 1: I do? I do?
Speaker 2: I do I do?
Speaker 4: That's that's a sight you can unsea.
Speaker 3: And then we've seen guests behave badly, like horribly, and
Speaker 3: then come back the next season trying to redeem themselves
Speaker 3: like we were like, oh my god, they came back
Speaker 3: for more. Like they they're.
Speaker 4: Trying to be more outrageous than they were the season before.
Speaker 4: That was like Charlie Wallers crazy. That was the way
Speaker 4: he was. He he had try and outdo it every time,
Speaker 4: and some people just really wanted to be as memorable,
Speaker 4: good or bad as they could possibly be.
Speaker 2: Which is wild.
Speaker 3: And now you have the I'm curious what your perspective
Speaker 3: is now because you're at home watching and you've got
Speaker 3: a podcast you recently met made headlines talking about Speaking
Speaker 3: of Housewives Jill Zarin and how she acted on this
Speaker 3: latest season. What is it like for you to watch
Speaker 3: it now like the rest of us on television knowing
Speaker 3: what you know.
Speaker 4: Well, you know it's TJ. It's like I said before,
Speaker 4: I haven't changed anything and the way I operate my boat.
Speaker 4: My attitude toward the guests is the same as it is.
Speaker 4: Everybody comes on lights clean, Let's do what we can
Speaker 4: to keep it that way. But some people are just
Speaker 4: hell bent. And when I watch people go out of
Speaker 4: their way, it's a conscious effort that they're doing what
Speaker 4: they're doing. This is no mistake, it's no accident. So
Speaker 4: don't hand me that bullsh because I'm not buying it,
Speaker 4: and neither is anybody else. So you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: really interested in like I said, And you know, Amy,
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, will I take your ass back
Speaker 4: to the dock in a heartbeat. I will put you
Speaker 4: on the dock with your luggage, get you to the
Speaker 4: airport and say it's been a slice.
Speaker 1: And Kevinly, you said earlier while we were discussing issues
Speaker 1: in our past, that we've been fired from jobs before,
Speaker 1: and you were telling the story about being fired from
Speaker 1: a from a job before. Were you fired from this one?
Speaker 1: From below deck? That they brought in another captain, But
Speaker 1: what is the right way to put their transition from
Speaker 1: you as captain to the new guy as captain?
Speaker 4: I guess that's subject to interpretation. Ah, I'm a pretty
Speaker 4: cut and dried character, And to me, if you have
Speaker 4: a job one minute and the next minute you don't
Speaker 4: have a job, and you haven't been given a verifiable reason, Uh,
Speaker 4: there's only one conclusion I can draw.
Speaker 1: Which is your fire. Well wait a minute. You made
Speaker 1: it sound as if there's no There had to be
Speaker 1: some conversation or explanation for Hey, we're going in a
Speaker 1: new direction. We wanted to do something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that new direction. That's boy, that one's about
Speaker 4: ben worn out, hasn't it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's all I had in the moment.
Speaker 3: VI.
Speaker 4: I think that's the same one everybody on TV that
Speaker 4: loses their job has been told, is we're going in
Speaker 4: a new direction.
Speaker 2: We were a distraction. We were told we were a distraction.
Speaker 2: That was I.
Speaker 4: Didn't think so I wasn't. I wasn't following because I
Speaker 4: guess I don't know. Maybe I was naive. But the
Speaker 4: situation between you two, to me, didn't even constitute a
Speaker 4: speed bump.
Speaker 2: We appreciate that.
Speaker 4: No, it didn't as far as I was concerned, because
Speaker 4: you were still doing your jobs and doing them well. Amy.
Speaker 4: I've always loved all of your work that you've done,
Speaker 4: and I just like seems a little petty to me.
Speaker 4: But what the hell do I know. I'm just a
Speaker 4: boat captain. Well, that's where you have to be cautious
Speaker 4: with me. If you if you really don't want the
Speaker 4: the answer to that question, then I may not be
Speaker 4: the one you want to ask because it may be
Speaker 4: more than you bargained for.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a good point, but go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, I've always been of the belief that you do
Speaker 4: the right thing, and the right thing is what's what's
Speaker 4: right in your mind. You know what the right thing is,
Speaker 4: and you know when you're not doing it. And if
Speaker 4: I've done the right thing, I sleep really good at night.
Speaker 4: I feel pretty good because I've always strived to do
Speaker 4: the right thing, period and I don't think you can
Speaker 4: never go wrong by doing the right thing. Now. To
Speaker 4: say that doing the right thing is always going to
Speaker 4: be easy or comfortable, oh hell no, Sometimes it's going
Speaker 4: to be one of the hardest things you've ever done.
Speaker 4: Doesn't change the fact that it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: But for us, though, Captain Lee, for like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go overboard with it. But for
Speaker 1: I know fans are fans of the show for different reasons.
Speaker 1: We are fans because it really did cap'n Lee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she wasn't exaggerating what you said. You kind of were
Speaker 1: a steady voice that carried us through and we streamed
Speaker 1: and streamed and streamed when we were essentially on lockdown.
Speaker 1: But to thank you. But the thing that there was
Speaker 1: a breakup between you and the show, that there should
Speaker 1: have been a sindoff that should have been. It feels
Speaker 1: like dust By you were the show for so long
Speaker 1: that why in listening to you now, it sounds like
Speaker 1: you didn't even get a good reason or even a
Speaker 1: conversation about why you weren't coming back. And certainly it
Speaker 1: sounds like you did want to and were willing to
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 4: I was willing to come back. I did have some
Speaker 4: health issues which I worked through, and if somebody had
Speaker 4: said to me, that's why this is why you're not
Speaker 4: coming back, I could have accepted that. I don't. You know,
Speaker 4: the truth is kind of like the right thing right.
Speaker 4: It may not be easy to swallow, but it doesn't
Speaker 4: change the fact that it's the truth. And before I
Speaker 4: left the show in the middle of season ten to
Speaker 4: come back and try and recover conversation with one of
Speaker 4: the producers who I admire very much and I've spent
Speaker 4: a lot of time with him on a personal level,
Speaker 4: and I told him, I said, I said, right now,
Speaker 4: I said, I'm more of a liability than I am
Speaker 4: an asset. So I think it's time for me to
Speaker 4: step aside, go get this situation resolved as quickly as
Speaker 4: I can, and then come back and finish the season out.
Speaker 4: Because I had promised the crew. I gave my word
Speaker 4: that I would be back and I would finish the season.
Speaker 4: And when I came back here, I went straight from
Speaker 4: the plane to the hospital into physical therapy and I
Speaker 4: spent four or six, sometimes eight hours a day every
Speaker 4: day of the next two weeks, two and a half
Speaker 4: weeks and physical therapy just to get to the point
Speaker 4: where I could walk with a crutch. But if you
Speaker 4: give your word, you keep it.
Speaker 3: And we watched you come back, and it was everybody
Speaker 3: was so excited to see you come back.
Speaker 4: Away with a totally clear conscience.
Speaker 2: Yeah you did. And so where are you health wise now,
Speaker 2: Captain Lee.
Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good. I still have a little bit
Speaker 4: of a limp. I'm not going to run the Boston
Speaker 4: Marathon that year, But hell, I can't think of a
Speaker 4: year I was ever going to run the Boston. But
Speaker 4: I'm doing well and I'm still having a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: The wife and I are traveling a little bit, and
Speaker 4: I still go to the gym every day without unless
Speaker 4: there's something really profitable or something I can't get out
Speaker 4: of happening. But yeah, I'm still a gym rat.
Speaker 1: And perfectly physically capable of running a chart of season
Speaker 1: on a boat right now. Absolutely you want to.
Speaker 4: I've I've had offers to go back to work, but
Speaker 4: it's like anything else, you know. I interview the owners
Speaker 4: as much as the owner interviews me, because I'm going
Speaker 4: to have to spend a lot of time with this individual.
Speaker 4: And if he just wants somebody to sit there and go, yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right, Yeah, you're right. I'm not your guy.
Speaker 1: What about your wife though, Does she want you to
Speaker 1: go back to work.
Speaker 4: No, she wanted me to retire three four years ago.
Speaker 2: How long have you all been married now?
Speaker 4: April twelfth, we hung out year number forty nine.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you. What's the secret to your marriage?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just trying to figure out what we're going
Speaker 4: to do with the next forty nine.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that we have to ask everybody.
Speaker 1: Does anybody in a relationship, here's that somebody's been together
Speaker 1: fifty years of a marriage, Like, what is it that
Speaker 1: worked for you? Guys? What? So? What can you can
Speaker 1: you give advice?
Speaker 4: I I get up every day and I think, what
Speaker 4: can I do to put a smile on her face?
Speaker 4: What can I do to make her world better? And
Speaker 4: I will if there's something that I want to do
Speaker 4: and something she wants to do. What she wants to
Speaker 4: do comes first. Always.
Speaker 1: Do you think she she wakes up and has those
Speaker 1: same thoughts about you?
Speaker 4: Yes, I think they're reciprocal.
Speaker 1: Now that's awesome, that's all.
Speaker 4: And she she and I know she has I know
Speaker 4: she's acquiesced a numerous god too many to count, where
Speaker 4: she knew something really meant a lot to me, and
Speaker 4: it was like to her, it was like, but she
Speaker 4: would do it anyhow, And she would put herself out there,
Speaker 4: and she would put herself sometimes in some uncomfortable situations,
Speaker 4: especially like if we were you know, doing something like
Speaker 4: when they had a tribute to me when I left,
Speaker 4: and she wasn't really comfortable, you know, being there but
Speaker 4: she did it because she knew it meant a lot
Speaker 4: to me. Yeah, And I think if you if you
Speaker 4: spend your time trying to make your significant other happy,
Speaker 4: you're probably going to succeed as long as the two
Speaker 4: of you do it together, because you're going to change.
Speaker 4: There's things that that you like now that you're not
Speaker 4: going to like ten years down the road. And it's
Speaker 4: a two way street. Amy. There's things you like now
Speaker 4: that you're not going to lie and tjate. There's things
Speaker 4: that you do that five ten years now you go
Speaker 4: like the hell was I think? And but they're just
Speaker 4: speed bumps. You get over them. But you do it together.
Speaker 2: That's sweet. I love that.
Speaker 3: What did what did it do, if anything, to your
Speaker 3: marriage for you suddenly to become the stud of the Seas,
Speaker 3: to become Captain Lee on television? Did that change anything
Speaker 3: in your marriage?
Speaker 4: Yeah? You have no idea how much mileage. My wife
Speaker 4: has gotten out of that Stud of the Sea.
Speaker 1: I like her. I like her.
Speaker 4: She's going like, yes, study to see my ass.
Speaker 2: But it didn't change anything.
Speaker 4: It did, and there was there was a long time
Speaker 4: where I I had a lot of trouble in soby
Speaker 4: she just getting used to the celebrity aspect of it,
Speaker 4: because I've never considered myself a celebrity. I still don't.
Speaker 4: I was always just a captain that got filmed doing
Speaker 4: his job the best that he could, period. And now
Speaker 4: to have people you know, fawning over you, for lack
Speaker 4: of a better word, you just they don't. Nobody gives
Speaker 4: you a manual that says, okay, when this happens, turn
Speaker 4: to page forty two and paragraph three and you'll find
Speaker 4: the answer for this situation. Teach you how to deal
Speaker 4: with it. You're just kind of like tossed into it.
Speaker 4: And one of the hardest things is to get used
Speaker 4: to your anonymity being gone forever. You can't you can't
Speaker 4: walk down the street, you can't go out to her.
Speaker 4: And I mean I've tried it. Like I thought, when
Speaker 4: we've filmed in Thailand, which is one of my favorite spots,
Speaker 4: I thought, surely I've got to be safe in Thailand.
Speaker 4: Day one, I'm walking down the dock and we're going
Speaker 4: for pickup interviews and I hear somebody's screaming Coppin Lee.
Speaker 4: I'm going, right, no, it can't be happening. So we
Speaker 4: had to stop talk take a bunch of pictures, and
Speaker 4: I don't mind that. I really don't if I'm out
Speaker 4: and about at a restaurant supermarket. That's why I hate
Speaker 4: going to the supermarket, because it's never just run in,
Speaker 4: grab that gallon and milk and get the hell out
Speaker 4: of there. Forget that, it's a half hour, forty five minute,
Speaker 4: maybe an hour deal.
Speaker 1: It's like a book signing, fawning of you. What are
Speaker 1: some of the weirder things or even shocking things we
Speaker 1: hear about rock stars get the letters in the mail
Speaker 1: and you know, undergarments and stuff like that. What is
Speaker 1: the weirdest kind of thing you've gotten.
Speaker 4: I've received some pictures that you're probably never going to
Speaker 4: be able to unsee in your life. That's amazing, amazing,
Speaker 4: And you just go, really.
Speaker 1: It's flattering kind of though, kevinly, isn't it? No?
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, it's just like I mean, there's some pictures
Speaker 4: that I've gotten where you go like, y'all have been
Speaker 4: better off keeping your clothes.
Speaker 1: Definitely, that's great.
Speaker 4: Well, TJ, come on, now, there's just some there's some
Speaker 4: things you just can't unsee.
Speaker 1: Well, it's still just to think that someone thinks the
Speaker 1: stranger thinks enough of you, or thinks you're so adorable
Speaker 1: that it's worth taking the clothes off and sending a
Speaker 1: stranger a picture. I mean, that's I don't know.
Speaker 4: Think about what you just said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as it was coming out, it sounded dumber and dumber.
Speaker 3: Yes, Captain Lee, you mentioned just it kind of sparks
Speaker 3: because I wanted to ask you this. You said Thailand
Speaker 3: was one of your favorite places. You've been all over
Speaker 3: the world. I think so many of us love traveling
Speaker 3: and want to know what is Do you have a
Speaker 3: favorite place you've ever been, you've ever sailed? Just I
Speaker 3: want to know from a man who's seen almost everything,
Speaker 3: what's your favorite place.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I've been there yet, but of the
Speaker 4: places I've been, Tahiti probably ranks up there at the
Speaker 4: top because it was so nice. Here we are, we're
Speaker 4: on a one hundred and eighty five foot vote. It's
Speaker 4: just dropped dead gorgeous. And you know when you travel
Speaker 4: by yacht throughout the you know, like go up to
Speaker 4: the Hamptons, try and get a dog spot. It's not
Speaker 4: going to happen in the high season. Go to France.
Speaker 4: You're just another billionaire with a big boat, nobody really cares.
Speaker 4: But in Tahiti, you pull into an anchorage, there may
Speaker 4: be one other boat there, and you've got the whole
Speaker 4: anchorage to yourself. In fact, Jimmy Buffett wrote a song
Speaker 4: about it. It was called One Particular Harbor. I don't know that,
Speaker 4: and I have been to that harbor, and now I
Speaker 4: understand why he wrote the song, because as soon as
Speaker 4: you got inside that harbor and you were back in
Speaker 4: the calm water, drop the hook, it was so serene,
Speaker 4: so peaceful, and you you realize that you could spend
Speaker 4: an endless amount of time there just thinking, contemplating, just
Speaker 4: sharing it with someone.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's nice. We got to go to Tahiti. Tell
Speaker 1: me this guy and lead met Mediterranean Sailing yacht down
Speaker 1: under Adventure. Which of those below deck spinoffs is your favorite?
Speaker 4: Not going there?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Or isn't?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you've seen them all. There's what I have?
Speaker 1: Why not go there? I thought that was an easy question.
Speaker 4: I I don't think it's it's right because I have
Speaker 4: I have a certain way that I prefer doing things,
Speaker 4: and of course I think everybody else is wrong, but
Speaker 4: I have a certain way that I use and I
Speaker 4: have certain things that I I try to stay away from,
Speaker 4: and judging someone else's whether especially a peer of mine,
Speaker 4: judging their performance or how they handle something is not
Speaker 4: something that I'm willing to do in a public form.
Speaker 1: Well to that point, well, I was just kind of
Speaker 1: not as a criticism of any other. But to your point,
Speaker 1: it seemed like, I mean, Robot and I here have watched.
Speaker 4: Well, it seems like if I don't, if I go
Speaker 4: ahead and I say, okay below deck Shaling is my favorite.
Speaker 1: Then everybody else will be mad?
Speaker 4: What's what's wrong with the other three?
Speaker 1: Yeah? There it is. No, Yeah, I'm just I'm.
Speaker 4: Proud of the fact that I was the first one
Speaker 4: and then we had four more spin offs.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, got there. He's been he's figuring this whole
Speaker 1: thing out years. But to your point there, it seemed
Speaker 1: like a lot of people. Again, Robot and I watched
Speaker 1: all of your seasons, and we saw when Captain Sandy
Speaker 1: came in so to read that people were trying to
Speaker 1: make like a beef between the two of you. They
Speaker 1: seemed to want to cause some kind of controversy. We
Speaker 1: didn't see it necessarily watched it. So about your relationship
Speaker 1: with Camptain Sandy. It didn't seem like there was any
Speaker 1: animosity between the two of you, but people.
Speaker 2: Wrote about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do things differently and there are certain things
Speaker 4: that we don't see eye to eye on. But I
Speaker 4: think that's true in any profession. That's why you get
Speaker 4: a second opinion when you go to the doctor.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, how is your relationship with Captain Sandy?
Speaker 4: That's fine. Like I said, we don't see the eye
Speaker 4: to eye and a lot of things, but she has
Speaker 4: a job to do. I commend her for for, you know,
Speaker 4: her achievements, because there's not a lot of female captains
Speaker 4: in the in the Meggiat world, and most people don't
Speaker 4: understand how rigorous and how difficult it is not only
Speaker 4: to achieve it, but to keep it right.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like there's professional respect. Is there a friendship? No,
Speaker 2: and that's okay, but I'm fine with that.
Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of people I don't like, but
Speaker 4: I respect them.
Speaker 2: He's freaking out because you and I sound so much alike.
Speaker 4: I don't. I've had people on board that I don't
Speaker 4: like that have worked with me, and I don't have
Speaker 4: to like you. If you're doing a good job, and
Speaker 4: I like your performance. What you're doing. Your personal life
Speaker 4: is your business.
Speaker 1: Can we ask you about the new guy, Keptain Carrie? Carrie?
Speaker 1: All right? Can we ask you?
Speaker 4: I've met Carrie a time or two, We've had a
Speaker 4: discussion or two, and I really don't have an opinion
Speaker 4: one way or the other as far as Carrie goes.
Speaker 1: After watching him on the show, after watching how he works,
Speaker 1: or just after your personal one on one interaction both.
Speaker 4: You know, you're always going to look at at somebody
Speaker 4: that doing your job in a fashion where you go like,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have done that that way. I had handle
Speaker 4: that differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that somebody's wrong, It just means you're different.
Speaker 2: So, Captain Lee, if you were going to set sail
Speaker 2: on a new season, who would be your dream team cast?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: That's question, And that's another area I won't all right,
Speaker 4: I will give you I would have Eddie and Kate.
Speaker 2: Okay and Eddie, Eddie and Kate. I get that, that's totally.
Speaker 4: There's so many that were so much fun and were
Speaker 4: such hard workers. Connie was one. Yeah, she was a
Speaker 4: great deckhand, fun to be around. Ah, love to play jokes,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, who brings a sewing machine board
Speaker 4: a yacht.
Speaker 2: With them, Connie, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know what she did with it. She would
Speaker 4: watch the deck through how they put their shorts on
Speaker 4: in the morning because doors are open all over the place.
Speaker 4: Nobody there's no modesty whatsoever, So they're putting their shorts
Speaker 4: on in the morning. And then when she got the opportunity,
Speaker 4: she would take the opposite leg and sow it shut
Speaker 4: so they'd get the one leg in, then they go
Speaker 4: to put the other one in and it wouldn't go through,
Speaker 4: and they'd fall on their rasps and she'd start laughing.
Speaker 4: And then by the time they got that it's situation
Speaker 4: straightened around, they'd go to put their deck shoes in
Speaker 4: and find out there was stuff full of shaving cream.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 2: Keeping everybody home.
Speaker 4: There have been so many people on board that were just,
Speaker 4: you know, just really great to work with, a lot
Speaker 4: of fun and that I would love to work with
Speaker 4: again given the opportunity. But I mean, way too many
Speaker 4: to mention. And it's pretty rare that you had anybody
Speaker 4: back for a second season. I think Eddie and Kate
Speaker 4: were the only two outside of Frasier that actually made
Speaker 4: the cut to come back for more than one season.
Speaker 1: Please please tell us we like Fraser? Is he good? People?
Speaker 1: Because we really liked him. Surprisingly, he snuck up on
Speaker 1: us and we're like, wow, we really like this guy.
Speaker 4: Yes he is.
Speaker 1: He's a real deal.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, He's very sincere. I used to die laughing
Speaker 4: when he'd start talking to himself.
Speaker 2: He's such a perfectionist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he would come. He would come back from a
Speaker 4: conversation with somebody that would just like jerk his chain
Speaker 4: and he would be talking to himself under his breath.
Speaker 2: We get that.
Speaker 4: I and I and I keep going crazier. You're on
Speaker 4: a hot mic.
Speaker 1: So kem leeh Is there any chance or what are
Speaker 1: the chances we will see you on TV at the
Speaker 1: helm of a boat on Bravo or wherever it may be,
Speaker 1: or back on below deck where we would like to
Speaker 1: see you. But is there is that in the car.
Speaker 4: I don't know how much chance there is that I'll
Speaker 4: be back on TV at the helm of a boat,
Speaker 4: but I think I can feel pretty safe in saying
Speaker 4: that there is a distinct chance that I will be
Speaker 4: back on TV in the not too distant future.
Speaker 2: That's very exciting, and that's.
Speaker 4: About as much as I'm without really getting my hands slapped.
Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait.
Speaker 4: That I can say about it there.
Speaker 2: It's not the same without you, So I know you've
Speaker 2: thank you so much.
Speaker 4: You're very kind from.
Speaker 3: So many people, but you are one of the main
Speaker 3: reasons why we kept watching. So thank you for helping
Speaker 3: us us truly get through last year with some levity
Speaker 3: and some lessons and some wanderlust because we actually made
Speaker 3: a vacation around one of the destinations. So thank you
Speaker 3: for all that you have done, and just thank you
Speaker 3: for being yourself. Just to see somebody in this world
Speaker 3: of reality TV actually be real is awesome and you
Speaker 3: embody that.
Speaker 2: So thank you, Captain Lee.
Speaker 4: It's my pleasure and thank you. I can't tell you
Speaker 4: what it means to be on your show. I'm honored
Speaker 4: and it's been very enjoyable. And I can't say that
Speaker 4: about a lot of podcasts. I can't say that about
Speaker 4: a lot of podcasts and appearances that I've made over
Speaker 4: the years that I actually enjoyed it and had a
Speaker 4: good time coming from you. This is definitely one of them.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so much. Kaviie we'll see on
Speaker 1: the seas, brother, all.
Speaker 4: Right, catch it. Everybody on the flip side by bye
Speaker 4: bye bye