1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome to another TJ is starting episode 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: My favorite episodes. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Look can we go? We're going to talk a little 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: reality TV today. And I am not a big reality 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: TV fan, haven't been throughout my life. But what would 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: you say is your Even before us you and I 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: have started watching some things, but what is your would 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: you say has been your number one? Like the show 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: you made sure you watched if it was a dancing 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: competition or if it's a housewive type show, what's what 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: did you commit to? 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: So it's evolved over the years. 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: So I think my first reality show that I got 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: totally stuck on was American Idol, without a doubt. I 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: loved it, the girls watched it with me. 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: It was a family show. 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: There aren't many shows on TV these days, especially where 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: you can watch with the family safely and so so 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: American Idol, for sure, I was obsessed with that show. 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: I loved it. 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: And I have not been a big reality TV show 23 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: person per se. We've had to watch for what we 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: did for a living oftentimes. But I kind of got 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: into at one point in my life in the in 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: the Bachelor series. 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: I liked Bachelor in Paradise. 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: I kind of fell in love with that because those 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: were all the rejects who then got thrown on an 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: island together. And then just like whatever happened happened, and that, 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: I think then led to my next guilty pleasure, which 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: was Love Island. It's embarrassing to admit, but in weak moments, 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: or in like moments where I just couldn't think or 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: I didn't want to accept my own reality, I went 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: to Love Island, and then you and I when we 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: got into our situation, we found an absolute amazing outlet. 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Well, I can't what was my question? 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: You asked what reality shows I like? 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: I just went through the timeline of it. 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: What was my question? 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: What reality shows I liked? And I think I did 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: a very good job at answering you. Chronologic dive is 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 3: what we call it, explaining everything, maybe over explaining. 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Would you say, though, that you are a reality TV fan? 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Because I don't want to call it trash TV. That's 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: but a lot of people do call it. But it's 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: a guilty pleasure is a good way to put it. 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: It's a guilty pleasure. But I will at least feel 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: like I choose No, I can't say that. Yeah, it's 50 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: a guilty pleasure. I was thinking that. 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: So I don't like a lot of conflict. I like 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: some conflict. I like fun, silly conflict. I don't like deep, 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: like table throwing conflict. 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: I have a limit to the conflict. I'm willing to watch. 55 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: What the actual is happening right now. 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just answering it as honestly as I posed. 57 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been a reality TV fan. The one 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: that I did follow was Rachel Lindsays season of The Bacheloreat. Okay, 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: that was one that I was committed to, watched every 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: day and was she's a friend, so that's. 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: It's also for work because we needed to watch those things. 62 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you that one. But the first one 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: that you and I found this was the first one 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: that I was shocked by that I got into and 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: it was completely random. Okay, how you're going to say, 66 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: serving the Hampton, Yes, okay, this We're sitting in the 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: room here with our producer Andy, who was a reality guy, 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: and he's even looking at me like what. 69 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: It's a little left field, it's a little here's why 70 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: we liked it. Go ahead, because it was people who 71 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: were actually doing a job that they would have done ordinarily. 72 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't a forced situation with fake friends. Yes, you're 73 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: actually showing somebody at work and the conflict that often 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: ensues at work. 75 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: So I'm just look at Andy, our producer here, and 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: he's he this is not what he was into. It 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: was completely random. You and I of course, at the 78 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty two went into kind of a 79 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: lockdown for a while to where we were inside together, 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: just the two of us in hiding to a certain 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: degree for whatever I think it was. H BO Max 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: just popped up, I started it and really got into 83 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: serving the Hamptons, which is about a restaurant called seventy 84 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: five Main I think is right. 85 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and we've eaten there. 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: Okay. See that's the thing. We followed these folks on 87 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: this journey of on the show to where they're working 88 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: together at this place, all the conflict, you get it, 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: it's a reality show. We then friend of yours Joe. Yes, 90 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: as when we were in hiding, if you will, Joe 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: and Preston both we wanted to just get out of town, yes, 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: and they knew we couldn't go a lot of places 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: and they say, hey, why don't you just we have 94 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: a place here in the Hamptons that we rent out. 95 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: You will just come hang out there, just get away 96 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Sure enough, we go there and 97 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: we order food. Not knowing where we're ordering from, we 98 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: order from a restaurant take out, and sure enough, it's 99 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 1: seventy five Maine. 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: It was great. 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: By the way, the place that's featured in Serving the Hamptons. Okay, 102 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: so to catch you up now, after we finished that one, 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: we like, when is Serving the Hamptons too. I don't 104 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: know if they had a season. 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: I don't think they got renewed. We might have been 106 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: the only one who, like everyone else, might have thought 107 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: it was boring. 108 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Then, holy hell, we were looking for something else. You 110 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: actually googled best reality shows to stream or something. 111 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: In the workplace. 112 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: I think I said that because we wanted people to 113 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: actually have a real function, like a real job, so 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: it wasn't all manufactured. We wanted to have actually some 115 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: reality to the reality. 116 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: And what we found was below deck. 117 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: Below deck and our lives were never the same ever, 118 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: so it was like, I mean, not trying to throw 119 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 3: shade on Serving the Hampton's but that was just nothing 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: compared to what Below Deck offered. 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Wow, and below Deck, Look, folks, this show it is 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: if you haven't and it's to your point, it's folks 123 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: who are actually doing a job that looks difficult. Was 124 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of them. It's physical ability, but 125 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: you need to know how to You're right? Do I 126 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: need to throw this out here? Do I need to? 127 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot of Technically, if you screw up, 128 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: you could crash a boat, oh, without a doubt. Yes. 129 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: So to see them going through that's what we respect. 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: At least they were doing a job, and you can 131 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: respect what they're doing. But we got to stream this 132 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: if people don't know, did you all know you can 133 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: stream stuff and they don't have commercials? Did you all know? 134 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: We streamed how many scenes of this show? 135 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: All that there was to stream, and we went through 136 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: all of them, not just rolling Deck Mediterranean, there was sailing, 137 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: there was all the down Under. We haven't gotten totally through, 138 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: but we have gone through all the different iterations. We 139 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: just wanted more and more and more. 140 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: So if anybody knows what we're talking about, we say, 141 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: below Deck the first thing out of your mouth after 142 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: saying below deck has to. 143 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: Be Captain Lee. 144 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: It has to be because if you've watched that show, 145 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: he has been the constant on that show. Look, we 146 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: liked Blow Mediterranean, yes, and we liked Captain Sandy there 147 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: as well, but the thing that got us into it 148 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: and the guy who guided us through. They changed staff, 149 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: but he was the constant throughout that show and if 150 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: he it sounds crazy, but this was a guy who 151 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: helped us through one of the craziest stretches yep, and 152 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: difficult stretches of our lives. 153 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not trying to be ridiculous here, but 154 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: it actually makes me kind of emotional because I feel 155 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: like Captain Lee and watching how he led this young, 156 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: wild group of kids trying to put on their best 157 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: to a make tips and just keep people happy and 158 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: learn the trade of yachting. It was Captain Lee, And 159 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: I told you from the beginning it felt. And I 160 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: hope he doesn't get offended by this, but I have 161 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: a very young dad, but he just reminded me of 162 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: my dad, like how I was raised, his nose sense, 163 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: like he wasn't going he was not going to take 164 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: any bs from anybody, Like no silliness, like he was like, 165 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to be just leading folks in the right 166 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: way with the littlest to say about it. I'm just 167 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: going to say what I'm going to say, and you're going. 168 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: To shut up. 169 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: So, Captain Lee, are you offended to hear that? Amy 170 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: Robock says that you remind her of her dad? Is 171 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: that offensive? That's a compliment? Is it not? Not? 172 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: Definitely as a compliment. I'm flattered. 173 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Oh Captain Lee. 174 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: It's so fun to hear your voice and see your 175 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: face and see us actually talking to you like we're 176 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm a little starstruck. 177 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: I'll just speak for myself. 178 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: Because we really did lean on you on it like 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: so many ways, in so many ways. And then to 180 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: come to find out you're from Michigan, I'm from Michigan. 181 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: And then when I found out and this was like 182 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: months after watching the show, because you're just referred to 183 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: as Captain Lee, but your last name and my last 184 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: name are almost identical, rose Bocher. 185 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: That's freaky. 186 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Captain Lee Rosebach and Amy Robo we have to 187 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: be related, Captain Lee. 188 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to choose to think we are. 189 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: That's almost scary. It truly is in a good way. 190 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, no, because you remind me of my family. 191 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 3: You remind me of how I was raised. The things 192 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: you say are the things my father would have said. 193 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: So it was just it felt like I was watching 194 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of home, watching you out on the 195 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: water commanding. 196 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: This group of kids. It was great, It was It 197 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: felt great. 198 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: Wasn't a lot There wasn't a lot of gray area 199 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: when you were growing up, was there? 200 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: No, there was not. It's blackys. 201 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 4: You knew exactly where you stood if you screwed up, 202 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: and you knew what was coming, and if you didn't, 203 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: you might get an added boy. Probably not because you 204 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: didn't get ada boys for doing what you were supposed 205 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: to do. 206 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: Exactly, you don't get praised for doing what's expected of you, 207 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: but if you don't do what you're supposed to do, 208 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: there will be consequences. 209 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: And that is exactly how I was. 210 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: I ever wanted to hear was wait did I tell 211 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: your father? 212 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 213 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: That was it's the worst. Oh my goodness, that's so funny. 214 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: And if it happened early in the morning, you had 215 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: all dated. 216 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: To sweat it out, to sweat it out. Yes, no, 217 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: German Catholics are very specific. I don't know if you 218 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: were raised the same way, but yes, German Catholics both sides. 219 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: My mom is Schtopfel and my dad is a Robot, 220 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: and we were all German Catholics, So I think, yes, 221 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: there was a familiarity and just and there's. 222 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 223 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: I just felt so connected to you and to everything 224 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: you had to say. It was it was cool and 225 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: I needed that. 226 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: Actually, I when I found out your last name, because 227 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: I'd watched you for years, and I thought there's something there. 228 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there has to be really. 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: There, really is it just can't. I'm not a firm 230 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: believer in coincidence. 231 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: Well neither am I at all. 232 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: But you're also not of a believer yet in twenty 233 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: three and me, you say you don't necessarily want to 234 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: trace all that DNA. 235 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: Like I said, my dad was rather prolific, So I'm 236 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: not sure if I want to open up that Pandora's 237 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 4: box or not. 238 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: It has been that for many people twenty three and 239 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: me and all of those other new DNA that's yes, 240 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: yea right find relativetion nevernew you had. 241 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: You've got to be careful what you ask for. 242 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Ketie, What do you think when you hear something like 243 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: she's describing. I mean, people have all kinds of stories. 244 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure fans have talked about just you know, they 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: just didn't enjoy the show is one thing. But I 246 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: mean maybe you do remind people of somebody in their family. 247 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Maybe they feel a different type of connection the way 248 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Robot here that I'm sitting next to does. What do 249 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: you do? You get a lot of that kind of 250 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: thing from people. 251 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: I do. I get a lot. You remind me of 252 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: my dad, my granddad, And I think that I come 253 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: from a generation where things are pretty cut and dried. 254 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: You know, you didn't you knew when you screwed up, 255 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 4: you knew when you didn't and I mean you knew 256 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: it before you finished doing it, and you knew what 257 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: was going to happen, and then you had to figure out, Okay, 258 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: is the going up going to be worth the coming down? 259 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 260 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: And it's crazy too, like you think about it so 261 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: many people. Everyone parents differently, but there is something to 262 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: that knowing what the expectations are and knowing what the 263 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: consequences will be. I think so often kids these days, 264 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: I sound so old, but don't know that though, or 265 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: they aren't being taught the same way we were. 266 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: Now they don't have the structure that I feel they need, 267 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: and they don't have the discipline, and they don't have that. 268 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 4: A lot of them don't have that male figure in 269 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: their life. It sets an example. You know, you get up, 270 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: you go to work every day, and if you don't 271 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: go to work, you do your job at home. Whatever 272 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: your job is, you do it. You don't make excuses. 273 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: You just suck it up no matter what the issue is, 274 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: and you get it done. Period. So yeah, I don't 275 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 4: like my professor at college, so who cares? 276 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's my dad. 277 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: Well, Captain Lee, he's my professor is triggering me, and 278 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: it's it's reminding me of a trauma that I had, 279 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Captain Lee, and he should not. My professor needs to 280 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: be aware of these triggers for me. Captain Lee. 281 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: Your professor doesn't give two about your trigger. 282 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: Oh Captain Lee, I wish there were more of you 283 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: in the world. It just no, it really is a 284 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: slice of hope. 285 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: It makes me laugh. 286 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: Sorry, and my daughters, I think, would say the same 287 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: thing because I'm I'm the mean mom apparently, But that's 288 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: just I think there is something to that, and you 289 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: give them to the. 290 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 4: Keep being the mean mom than you, you keep being 291 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 4: the parent first. Yeah, there's plenty of time later on 292 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: to be friends. But if you if you're not, in 293 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: my opinion, if you're not the parent first, then you're 294 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: probably not going to raise the type of show that 295 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 4: you want to be friends with later. 296 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: So true, so true and just. And you take that 297 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: philosophy and you bring it on the boat. How did 298 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: that work? 299 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: I do? It worked fine for me. For some of 300 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: the crew members not so much. And production and I 301 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: had an understanding from Jump Street that you know you 302 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: have a job to do. I have a job to do. 303 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: My job supersedes your authority. You charted the boat, you 304 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 4: got me with it, so you can film me all 305 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: you want. I'm going to do my job as I 306 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: understand it, and that's to make sure that everybody on 307 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: this boat is safe and I don't do any harm 308 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: to the boat or anybody on it. And if we 309 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: can do whatever it is you'd like to do within 310 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: those confines, I'm all in. But don't ask me to 311 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: compromise because there won't. 312 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Be take the cameras away, Captain Lee, did you do 313 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: everything the exact same way you did it that we 314 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: sell on camera. If those cameras weren't there, you've been 315 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: the same guy. 316 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: Didn't make any difference. Cameras are no cameras. That's the 317 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: way I've been running boats for over almost forty years now, 318 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: and I doubt it's going to change now. 319 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: I was just going to ask, it's the way you've 320 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: been running boats. It's the way you see fit to 321 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: run boats. But when you watch yourself back, did you 322 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: have any thoughts like that was too much or maybe 323 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: that was too harsh? 324 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: You know, maybe early in my career, before all of 325 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: the TV stuff started, I may have been a little 326 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: more strict than I actually needed to be. But I 327 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: think that's a process that all captains go through, a 328 00:15:53,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: maturation process where you learn that everybody's different and some 329 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: people need to be handled differently. It's not a one 330 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: size fits all. So where you can take a very 331 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: firm and stern approach with one individual because their psyche 332 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: can handle it, you'll get more from another individual by 333 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: maybe taking a software approach, not cream off Casper milk 334 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: toast approach, but maybe a little more subdued approach. 335 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: Can you spot them from a mile away, even before 336 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: you start a charter season, can you say, yep, that's 337 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: going to be a problem like this, that's going to 338 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: be or were you even surprised once you got to 339 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: know them a little bit. 340 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: They're pretty easy to spot. 341 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Has anyone surprised? 342 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: Level of transparency is just like, seriously. 343 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: Tell us this, Captain Lee. If the two of us 344 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: t J. Holmes and Amy Robot stepped on to your 345 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: deck as new members. 346 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: Of the crew, she's chiefs to lead deckhand. 347 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Okay, fine, lead deckhand. Okay, what would you say these 348 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: two are going to be for you and your crew? 349 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: Have I been able to look at your resumes? 350 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and they are stellar. 351 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 352 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 4: Well I've never met anybody that that impellised your resume. 353 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: Right, we were fired once. We probably gonna leave that off. 354 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: I was. 355 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: I was fired once as well. Okay, I don't. I 356 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: don't leave that off off my resume. I was actually 357 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: quite proud of the fact that I was fired. 358 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Wow, why were you fired? Who would have fired you? 359 00:17:59,560 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: Uh? 360 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: It was the owners of Utopia two, in Utopia three 361 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 4: and four and five, but extremely demanding people, and I 362 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: was fired for bringing something to one of the owner's 363 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: attention that she really didn't want to see. And I 364 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: didn't really care she wanted to see it or not, 365 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: because it was the truth and I was doing the 366 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: right thing. And I've always been a firm believer that 367 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: you can never go wrong by doing the right thing. 368 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: So when she fired me, I thought, there. 369 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: Is a god hallelujah. Wait what did she not want 370 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: to see? 371 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: Oh? You don't really want me to say? 372 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: Oh I do, though, I kind of do. 373 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: Well. We had a My boat was primarily used as 374 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 4: a floating hotel. When they'd have too many guests for 375 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: the big boat, they'd send them over to my little 376 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: one hundred and sixteen foot fed ship and they would 377 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: spend the night. It was one of their executives, and 378 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: he came rolling in about six thirty or so in 379 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: the morning. Of course, our crew was all up and 380 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: took a shower and promptly passed out. But while he 381 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 4: was in the shower, he left something behind that he 382 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: should have left in the toilet. I told you you 383 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 4: didn't want to know. 384 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: Wait, but you got fired for that. Wait a minute, Okay, 385 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: I'll get better. 386 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: It's better. Okay, the chiefs do come, do comes upstairs? 387 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 4: And she goes kat. She said, you have to come 388 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 4: downstairs with me, and I told I said, I have 389 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: no I have no wish to even join you downstairs. 390 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: I said, that's just She said, no, you have to 391 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: because won't believe this. So I went downstairs and bigger 392 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: than life there it was, so I uh. I took 393 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: a picture of it and I sent it to the 394 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: owner and I said, really that was it? One word text? 395 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 4: Really uh. I was terminated the next day. 396 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow, the reason being, what the way they 397 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: had to give you some reason for that? 398 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because like on a boat, I am 399 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 4: hr M right, So if you're gonna if you're gonna 400 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: get on a boat as a steward, as a deckhand, 401 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: and you're gonna go, well, I'm gonna take this hr. 402 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: Well you're looking at HR literally because my first names here, 403 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 4: my last name's rossback, I am HR. What's your problem? 404 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: I was not expecting that story was that was a 405 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: new one. 406 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: So I was so glad I got fired. 407 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, hindsight sometimes is well twenty twenty right, 408 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: you learn as you go. 409 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Do you know, keptain Lee, do you have a rolling count? 410 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Do you know how many people you have fired in 411 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: the seasons of below. 412 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: Deck everyone that deserved it. 413 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so not too few, not too many, the exact 414 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: right number now. 415 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: I think there. I think the most I'd fired I 416 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 4: think was four in one season, but I don't There's 417 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: only one person that I actually I fired him, and 418 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: I did regret it, but not for the reasons you 419 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 4: might think. He he had embellished his resume, which is 420 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: another word for lying, and he was such a nice kid, 421 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 4: and he tried so hard, but in a million years, 422 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: he was never going to get it. And to me, 423 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: you have to get it in order to function on 424 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: a on on Omega yacht. 425 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: I think I remember this. Who was this? 426 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: That was Andrew Sturby. 427 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 2: Yeah we have, we have and young blond. 428 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: Haired kid left the porthole in his stateroom open, almost saying. 429 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, remember that? 430 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: So oh you could tell heart. 431 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 4: He did, and I said, Andrew, I said, I mean, 432 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 4: this is really breaking my heart. I hate to do 433 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 4: this to you. I said, but you're just too much 434 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: of a risk and I don't have the time to 435 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 4: to really train you. When what I really meant is, 436 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: if I had a million years, you're never going to. 437 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Get it, I do. 438 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 4: I told you you know he was, and he was 439 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: so good with the guests. They loved him, and I 440 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: just said, you know, you're going to have to go. 441 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: And I think that's the only one that I actually regret. 442 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: There were quite a few that I enjoyed. I really did. 443 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 4: I mean, there's something gratifying about being able to dish 444 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: out to some people who desperately deserves it what they 445 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: have coming. 446 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: I think I think everyone can relate to that when 447 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: you and I. 448 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: Just I don't feel bad about it one iota. 449 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you two are related, no, but I get that. 450 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you feel like no one's ever 451 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: told this person no. 452 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: Before, actually and you get to be the one to 453 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: do it, and maybe that will be the thing that 454 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: makes them wake up to how they act. 455 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: There is something satisfying about that. I totally. I get 456 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: that you and I are on the same paper. Who 457 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: was the most enjoyable to fire? 458 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 3: Do you know? 459 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: The most enjoyable to fire was Dane. Dane was a 460 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 4: deckhand and I'd sent the crew out to a private 461 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 4: resort and they had to resort all to themselves, overnight, rooms, 462 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: open bar, They had everything that they wanted, so two 463 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning, I get a call from Meddie 464 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 4: and he said cat. He said, Dane's out of control. 465 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: He said he can't stay here. So two o'clock in 466 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 4: the morning, I'm scraunging around trying to find somebody to 467 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 4: hop on a boat go to this other island and 468 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: pick up Dane. 469 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: Even just the name Dane, you keep saying it such 470 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: a way, it's annoying. 471 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: We had we had Dane down in the if we 472 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: have film with him down in the crew mess. He's 473 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: got a bottle of Crown Royal in one hand and 474 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: a Budweiser in the other, and he's alternating hugs and 475 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: he's talking to himself and we can't understand what he's saying, 476 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: so we slow the tape down to try and figure 477 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: out what he's saying. We still can't understand. We had 478 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: it to damn near stop and we're still so we 479 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: had to just use subtitles of all the special characters 480 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: that you're. 481 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: Supposed to Oh, I love when you do that, yes. 482 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 4: Because we had no idea what he said, garble drunk. 483 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: He gets he gets back to the bug. This is 484 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: like three o'clock in the morning, and now there's a 485 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 4: knock on my door. It's one of the producers. They go, cat, 486 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: we've got a problem, and I looked at him. I thought, oh, 487 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 4: do you ever have a problem. You know, it's three 488 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. I've got to be up in 489 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: three hours. This said, really better be good. He said, 490 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: we've got Dane down on the dock and he refuses 491 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: to leave the boat until he gets his tip money. 492 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Wait did this play out in the season for people 493 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: to see. I don't remember that. 494 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well you didn't see that. 495 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: I see that. 496 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: Because there were certain things they transferred there you probably 497 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: didn't want to see anyhow, I said, all right, I'll 498 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: get his tip money for him. So I gave the 499 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 4: producer his tip money. I got back into bed. Fifteen 500 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: minutes later, there's another knock on the door. Now it's 501 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 4: twenty after three or so in the morning, and he said, 502 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: Dane's really really getting out of control and he won't leave, 503 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: and now he's starting to verbally assault, you know, like 504 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 4: the executive producer's wife family. He's just gone off the 505 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: deep end. And he said, you know, will you come 506 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: down and help us out with it? And then I 507 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: said absolutely, I will, I said, but I don't want 508 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: anybody questioning my methods of how I deal with it. 509 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: I said, but trust me, it will get dealt with. 510 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: I said, because I need to get some goddamn sleep here, 511 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: I said, you guys want me up at six thirty 512 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 4: in the morning, and it's three thirty now. So I 513 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: went down there and we had two security guards there 514 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 4: and they're just standing off in the background. And I 515 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: walked up to Dane and I said, I asked him 516 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 4: if he was doing all right. You got your mother, yeah, 517 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 4: I got my money. I said, you're not going to 518 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: stay on board the boat tonight. I said, we have 519 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: a hotel room for you. I said, and you see 520 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: these two gentlemen over there. I said, they're going to 521 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 4: escort you to your hotel room and then in the morning, 522 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 4: you and I will have a conversation. And he looked 523 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 4: at me and I said, wait a minute, I said, 524 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: don't say anything. I said, you do have options here. 525 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: I said, you can walk with these two gentlemen to 526 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: your hotel room in a peaceful fashion. I said, or 527 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: you can get carried to your hotel room. And I said, 528 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: I know which one I would prefer, but it's up 529 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 4: to you. And he took his envelope of money and 530 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: put it in his back pocket and went with the 531 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: gentleman as I re quested, and made it to his 532 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 4: hotel room. Then he comes. We get him back at 533 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 4: eight o'clock in the morning. Now, mind you, he's still hammered. 534 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 4: There's no way as drunk as he was that he 535 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: was going to sober up three or four hours just 536 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: wasn't going to happen. And all apologies, all this, all that, 537 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: and he said, well, he said, you know, I said, 538 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 4: I guess I should hand him my resignation. And I said, no, no, 539 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 4: wait a minute, you have not earned the prov of resigning. 540 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: Your dumb ass is fired. And were I you, I 541 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: wouldn't put me down for a wh I would delete 542 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: this part of your life. 543 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: Amazing. 544 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: So he said, okay, he says, I'll go down and pack. 545 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: I said no, no, I said, you won't go down 546 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: and pack. You're not packing anything. Our people will pack 547 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: for you, will ship it to wherever it is you 548 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 4: want to go. You're going straight from this office to 549 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: the airport and you're getting on a plane and you're 550 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: leaving you guys, any questions. 551 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, you have to tell us you've been doing 552 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: this for so long before cameras ever became a part 553 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: of it. Have you always had debt crews that were 554 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: like this, even before we were able to see what 555 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: life was like on a boat. 556 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: Yes. 557 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: Wow. 558 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: I remember I had an engineer one time, and this 559 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: was on Nick Cage's boat and I was bringing it 560 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 4: back from the Hampton's somewhere up in Connecticut back down 561 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: to Lauderdale. And I didn't know it at the time 562 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: because I didn't know the guy well enough. But the 563 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: engineer he passed out well I should have said, he 564 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: looked like he fell asleep during a team meeting, staff 565 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: meeting in a sleep. He faced drunk and I took 566 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: his class and it was like a tumbler. It was 567 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: straight vodka. 568 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the engineer, the engineer, a lot of people's lives 569 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: at seek. 570 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, there's I mean, it does happen, not just 571 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: on television. So that's why it cracks me up sometimes 572 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: when people say it's all scripted, and I said, trust 573 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: me when I tell you, if it was scripted, my 574 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 4: life would have been so much easier. I would have 575 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: known what was coming. I could have you know, just 576 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 4: read my lines and everything would have been great. But 577 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: the stuff that happened it just like straight out of 578 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: the box and you get hit right between the eyes 579 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: with it. 580 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: How about the guests on the show, I we from 581 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: the very beginning, we're curious about how you picked them 582 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: and what the incentives were for them to be on 583 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: the boat, because obviously a lot of them some of 584 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: them act just fine, but many of them don't, and 585 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: were like, who would put themselves out there to be 586 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: talked about, ridiculed? 587 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 3: And you know for folks who are on the outside 588 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: looking in, just they look like general. 589 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: FLEs like we were just curious about that process. 590 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: Well, there's there's two things. When we first started the series, 591 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: it was so unknown and I'm not going to say 592 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: nobody knew what they were doing, but nobody had filmed 593 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 4: charter guests on a moving boat with all of the 594 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: crew and then all the camera crew and all the 595 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: audio techts and everything that we had to have on 596 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 4: board had never been done before. And so we were 597 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: actually we weren't charging anybody for the charters, and then 598 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: we ran into an issue because we weren't charging anybody 599 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 4: for the charters if they didn't have some skin in 600 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: the game. At the last minute, they'd find what I 601 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: call a BBD, a bigger, better deal, Oh wow, and 602 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: they wouldn't show up. 603 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 604 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 4: So then I'm you know, myself and the production crew 605 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 4: were sitting there. Now we got four days to fill 606 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: with no guests. 607 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: Then think about that. 608 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 4: So we started charging, and they did get a heavily 609 00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: discounted rate, and it was really a great deal for them. 610 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: You know, generally they got like I remember a couple 611 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 4: of seasons we'd charter. We would rent a mansion, a 612 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 4: villa that would accommodate six or eight people. They'd have 613 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 4: their own chef swimming pool, and they would get there, 614 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 4: spend two days in the villa and then come on 615 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: board the boat, spend three days there and then go 616 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: back to the villa for another day or two and 617 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 4: then on their airfare or on their plane to get 618 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 4: out of there. And we would charge them X amount 619 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: of dollars. But everything was inclusive. 620 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: So that's a really good deal. 621 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: That's a great deal. 622 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: It was a really good deal for them. And you know, 623 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: unless they wanted a case of Louis tray, then you know, 624 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: they stayed within limits. Then they were okay, But what 625 00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 4: used to amaze me tremendously was when you talk to 626 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 4: people like crew, they you entered them and you want 627 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 4: this is why you want them, because they're an interesting personality. 628 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 4: They seem like they're fun to hang out with, they're 629 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 4: going to be great on film. They look good, they're beautiful, 630 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 4: they're handsome, and they've got an engaging personality, and that's 631 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 4: why you hire them, or that's why you agree to 632 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 4: have them come on board as guests. And then as 633 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: soon the very split second that the cameras start rolling, 634 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: they just morph into the biggest volume bear. 635 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 636 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 4: Camera comes on and they're just totally different, and you're 637 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 4: going like, no, what the hell just happened here? 638 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: Why? But why wouldn't you want to look bad? I mean, 639 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: that makes them look worse. Why wouldn't they be on 640 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: their best behavior and telling the crew so well? 641 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 4: With the cameras rolling, they would get together and conspire, 642 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: the guests would to think of difficult situations to make 643 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 4: for the crew. 644 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: Kidding me, Wow, I'm shocked by that. 645 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: Why wow? 646 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 4: And it was just you know, and we dealt with it. 647 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 2: Wow, I know we watched it. Was there a group 648 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: that shocked you the most. 649 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 4: Didn't happen a lot, but you know, because there were 650 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: so many really really great charters that I had throughout 651 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 4: my career and below deck the Two's, for example, LeAnn 652 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 4: Dewey and Shawnee her husband from the blind Side. Yep, 653 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: they were just great and you just loved hanging around 654 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 4: with them and cameras on or not, they didn't change 655 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 4: who they were or what they were. I remember having 656 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: some housewives on board and I thought, oh my god, 657 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 4: talk about high maintenance. I'm an overload here, and when 658 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 4: the charter was over, couldn't have been further from the truth. Well, 659 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 4: they were just the nicest group of it was Claudia 660 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 4: Jordan and Cynthia Bailey. 661 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: Cynthia her mom and daughter, and we. 662 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: Just had a great time with them. They weren't high maintenance. 663 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 4: They were a lot of fun. And then there were 664 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 4: some other guys. I mean, you just you take. It's 665 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 4: kind of like the luck of the draw. 666 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: Kem Lea advise folks who maybe if they're not even 667 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: maybe they will be a charter guest somewhere on some 668 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: boat some day. But there's something we see it a 669 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: lot with airline travel to where people who you feel entitled, 670 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: that that flight attendant or that deckhand or that stewards 671 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like your servants. They people feel for 672 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: whatever reason in those like you're there to serve them 673 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: and obey their every command. Just in general, give some 674 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: advice to people to give a break to maybe some 675 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: of these folks who are serving them in travel. 676 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 4: The people that behave that way with that sense of entitlement. 677 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 4: Generally it's new money. It's not old money, because old 678 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 4: money is a product of class culture and breeding. The 679 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 4: new money they have that sense of entitlement about them 680 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 4: for no reason whatsoever, and they should the people my crew, 681 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 4: and I've told some charter guests on charter, no, my 682 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 4: crew are not your slaves period. You will treat them 683 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 4: with respect or I'll turn this boat around and head 684 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 4: back to the dock. Dump your ass off and keep 685 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 4: your money you have. 686 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 2: You've kicked a guest before, we've seen it. 687 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: It was awesome. 688 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 4: I have no problem doing that. 689 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And you kicked her off the lorus. 690 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 2: That was amazing. And now and now. 691 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 4: Season one, I kicked Johnny. 692 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: Eyelash yes, yes, oh yes, And he's the. 693 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 4: Guy that came rolling down the dock a group of 694 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 4: photographers and he's wearing this nasty, dirty, old bathrobe. Do 695 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 4: you remember that, teacher? 696 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: I do? I do? 697 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: I do I do? 698 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 4: That's that's a sight you can unsea. 699 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: And then we've seen guests behave badly, like horribly, and 700 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: then come back the next season trying to redeem themselves 701 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: like we were like, oh my god, they came back 702 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 3: for more. Like they they're. 703 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: Trying to be more outrageous than they were the season before. 704 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 4: That was like Charlie Wallers crazy. That was the way 705 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 4: he was. He he had try and outdo it every time, 706 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 4: and some people just really wanted to be as memorable, 707 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 4: good or bad as they could possibly be. 708 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: Which is wild. 709 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: And now you have the I'm curious what your perspective 710 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: is now because you're at home watching and you've got 711 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 3: a podcast you recently met made headlines talking about Speaking 712 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 3: of Housewives Jill Zarin and how she acted on this 713 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 3: latest season. What is it like for you to watch 714 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 3: it now like the rest of us on television knowing 715 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 3: what you know. 716 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 4: Well, you know it's TJ. It's like I said before, 717 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 4: I haven't changed anything and the way I operate my boat. 718 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 4: My attitude toward the guests is the same as it is. 719 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 4: Everybody comes on lights clean, Let's do what we can 720 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: to keep it that way. But some people are just 721 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: hell bent. And when I watch people go out of 722 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 4: their way, it's a conscious effort that they're doing what 723 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 4: they're doing. This is no mistake, it's no accident. So 724 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 4: don't hand me that bullsh because I'm not buying it, 725 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 4: and neither is anybody else. So you know, I'm not 726 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 4: really interested in like I said, And you know, Amy, 727 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 4: I'm just you know, will I take your ass back 728 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: to the dock in a heartbeat. I will put you 729 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: on the dock with your luggage, get you to the 730 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 4: airport and say it's been a slice. 731 00:41:51,040 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: And Kevinly, you said earlier while we were discussing issues 732 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: in our past, that we've been fired from jobs before, 733 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: and you were telling the story about being fired from 734 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: a from a job before. Were you fired from this one? 735 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: From below deck? That they brought in another captain, But 736 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: what is the right way to put their transition from 737 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: you as captain to the new guy as captain? 738 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 4: I guess that's subject to interpretation. Ah, I'm a pretty 739 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 4: cut and dried character, And to me, if you have 740 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 4: a job one minute and the next minute you don't 741 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 4: have a job, and you haven't been given a verifiable reason, Uh, 742 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 4: there's only one conclusion I can draw. 743 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: Which is your fire. Well wait a minute. You made 744 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: it sound as if there's no There had to be 745 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: some conversation or explanation for Hey, we're going in a 746 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: new direction. We wanted to do something. 747 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that new direction. That's boy, that one's about 748 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 4: ben worn out, hasn't it. 749 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's all I had in the moment. 750 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 3: VI. 751 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 4: I think that's the same one everybody on TV that 752 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 4: loses their job has been told, is we're going in 753 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 4: a new direction. 754 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: We were a distraction. We were told we were a distraction. 755 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: That was I. 756 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 4: Didn't think so I wasn't. I wasn't following because I 757 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 4: guess I don't know. Maybe I was naive. But the 758 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 4: situation between you two, to me, didn't even constitute a 759 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 4: speed bump. 760 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate that. 761 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: No, it didn't as far as I was concerned, because 762 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 4: you were still doing your jobs and doing them well. Amy. 763 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 4: I've always loved all of your work that you've done, 764 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 4: and I just like seems a little petty to me. 765 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 4: But what the hell do I know. I'm just a 766 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 4: boat captain. Well, that's where you have to be cautious 767 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 4: with me. If you if you really don't want the 768 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 4: the answer to that question, then I may not be 769 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 4: the one you want to ask because it may be 770 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: more than you bargained for. 771 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a good point, but go ahead, 772 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Ahead. 773 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 4: Well, I've always been of the belief that you do 774 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 4: the right thing, and the right thing is what's what's 775 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 4: right in your mind. You know what the right thing is, 776 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 4: and you know when you're not doing it. And if 777 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 4: I've done the right thing, I sleep really good at night. 778 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 4: I feel pretty good because I've always strived to do 779 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 4: the right thing, period and I don't think you can 780 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 4: never go wrong by doing the right thing. Now. To 781 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: say that doing the right thing is always going to 782 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 4: be easy or comfortable, oh hell no, Sometimes it's going 783 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 4: to be one of the hardest things you've ever done. 784 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 4: Doesn't change the fact that it's the right thing to do. 785 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: But for us, though, Captain Lee, for like, I mean, 786 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to go overboard with it. But for 787 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: I know fans are fans of the show for different reasons. 788 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: We are fans because it really did cap'n Lee. Yeah, 789 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: she wasn't exaggerating what you said. You kind of were 790 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: a steady voice that carried us through and we streamed 791 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: and streamed and streamed when we were essentially on lockdown. 792 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: But to thank you. But the thing that there was 793 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: a breakup between you and the show, that there should 794 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: have been a sindoff that should have been. It feels 795 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: like dust By you were the show for so long 796 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: that why in listening to you now, it sounds like 797 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: you didn't even get a good reason or even a 798 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: conversation about why you weren't coming back. And certainly it 799 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: sounds like you did want to and were willing to 800 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: come back. 801 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 4: I was willing to come back. I did have some 802 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: health issues which I worked through, and if somebody had 803 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 4: said to me, that's why this is why you're not 804 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 4: coming back, I could have accepted that. I don't. You know, 805 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 4: the truth is kind of like the right thing right. 806 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 4: It may not be easy to swallow, but it doesn't 807 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 4: change the fact that it's the truth. And before I 808 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 4: left the show in the middle of season ten to 809 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: come back and try and recover conversation with one of 810 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 4: the producers who I admire very much and I've spent 811 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 4: a lot of time with him on a personal level, 812 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 4: and I told him, I said, I said, right now, 813 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 4: I said, I'm more of a liability than I am 814 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 4: an asset. So I think it's time for me to 815 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 4: step aside, go get this situation resolved as quickly as 816 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 4: I can, and then come back and finish the season out. 817 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 4: Because I had promised the crew. I gave my word 818 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 4: that I would be back and I would finish the season. 819 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 4: And when I came back here, I went straight from 820 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 4: the plane to the hospital into physical therapy and I 821 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 4: spent four or six, sometimes eight hours a day every 822 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 4: day of the next two weeks, two and a half 823 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 4: weeks and physical therapy just to get to the point 824 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 4: where I could walk with a crutch. But if you 825 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: give your word, you keep it. 826 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 3: And we watched you come back, and it was everybody 827 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: was so excited to see you come back. 828 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 4: Away with a totally clear conscience. 829 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,959 Speaker 2: Yeah you did. And so where are you health wise now, 830 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 2: Captain Lee. 831 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good. I still have a little bit 832 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 4: of a limp. I'm not going to run the Boston 833 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 4: Marathon that year, But hell, I can't think of a 834 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: year I was ever going to run the Boston. But 835 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: I'm doing well and I'm still having a lot of fun. 836 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 4: The wife and I are traveling a little bit, and 837 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 4: I still go to the gym every day without unless 838 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 4: there's something really profitable or something I can't get out 839 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 4: of happening. But yeah, I'm still a gym rat. 840 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: And perfectly physically capable of running a chart of season 841 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: on a boat right now. Absolutely you want to. 842 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 4: I've I've had offers to go back to work, but 843 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 4: it's like anything else, you know. I interview the owners 844 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 4: as much as the owner interviews me, because I'm going 845 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 4: to have to spend a lot of time with this individual. 846 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 4: And if he just wants somebody to sit there and go, yeah, 847 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 4: you're right, Yeah, you're right. I'm not your guy. 848 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: What about your wife though, Does she want you to 849 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: go back to work. 850 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 4: No, she wanted me to retire three four years ago. 851 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: How long have you all been married now? 852 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 4: April twelfth, we hung out year number forty nine. 853 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:51,760 Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you. What's the secret to your marriage? 854 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just trying to figure out what we're going 855 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 4: to do with the next forty nine. 856 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that we have to ask everybody. 857 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: Does anybody in a relationship, here's that somebody's been together 858 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: fifty years of a marriage, Like, what is it that 859 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: worked for you? Guys? What? So? What can you can 860 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: you give advice? 861 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 4: I I get up every day and I think, what 862 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 4: can I do to put a smile on her face? 863 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 4: What can I do to make her world better? And 864 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 4: I will if there's something that I want to do 865 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 4: and something she wants to do. What she wants to 866 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 4: do comes first. Always. 867 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: Do you think she she wakes up and has those 868 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 1: same thoughts about you? 869 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I think they're reciprocal. 870 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: Now that's awesome, that's all. 871 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 4: And she she and I know she has I know 872 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 4: she's acquiesced a numerous god too many to count, where 873 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 4: she knew something really meant a lot to me, and 874 00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: it was like to her, it was like, but she 875 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 4: would do it anyhow, And she would put herself out there, 876 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 4: and she would put herself sometimes in some uncomfortable situations, 877 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 4: especially like if we were you know, doing something like 878 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 4: when they had a tribute to me when I left, 879 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 4: and she wasn't really comfortable, you know, being there but 880 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 4: she did it because she knew it meant a lot 881 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 4: to me. Yeah, And I think if you if you 882 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 4: spend your time trying to make your significant other happy, 883 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 4: you're probably going to succeed as long as the two 884 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 4: of you do it together, because you're going to change. 885 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 4: There's things that that you like now that you're not 886 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 4: going to like ten years down the road. And it's 887 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 4: a two way street. Amy. There's things you like now 888 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 4: that you're not going to lie and tjate. There's things 889 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 4: that you do that five ten years now you go 890 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 4: like the hell was I think? And but they're just 891 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 4: speed bumps. You get over them. But you do it together. 892 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 2: That's sweet. I love that. 893 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 3: What did what did it do, if anything, to your 894 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 3: marriage for you suddenly to become the stud of the Seas, 895 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 3: to become Captain Lee on television? Did that change anything 896 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 3: in your marriage? 897 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 4: Yeah? You have no idea how much mileage. My wife 898 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 4: has gotten out of that Stud of the Sea. 899 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: I like her. I like her. 900 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 4: She's going like, yes, study to see my ass. 901 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: But it didn't change anything. 902 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 4: It did, and there was there was a long time 903 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 4: where I I had a lot of trouble in soby 904 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 4: she just getting used to the celebrity aspect of it, 905 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 4: because I've never considered myself a celebrity. I still don't. 906 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 4: I was always just a captain that got filmed doing 907 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 4: his job the best that he could, period. And now 908 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 4: to have people you know, fawning over you, for lack 909 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 4: of a better word, you just they don't. Nobody gives 910 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 4: you a manual that says, okay, when this happens, turn 911 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 4: to page forty two and paragraph three and you'll find 912 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 4: the answer for this situation. Teach you how to deal 913 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 4: with it. You're just kind of like tossed into it. 914 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 4: And one of the hardest things is to get used 915 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 4: to your anonymity being gone forever. You can't you can't 916 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 4: walk down the street, you can't go out to her. 917 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 4: And I mean I've tried it. Like I thought, when 918 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 4: we've filmed in Thailand, which is one of my favorite spots, 919 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 4: I thought, surely I've got to be safe in Thailand. 920 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,959 Speaker 4: Day one, I'm walking down the dock and we're going 921 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 4: for pickup interviews and I hear somebody's screaming Coppin Lee. 922 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm going, right, no, it can't be happening. So we 923 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 4: had to stop talk take a bunch of pictures, and 924 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 4: I don't mind that. I really don't if I'm out 925 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 4: and about at a restaurant supermarket. That's why I hate 926 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 4: going to the supermarket, because it's never just run in, 927 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 4: grab that gallon and milk and get the hell out 928 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 4: of there. Forget that, it's a half hour, forty five minute, 929 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 4: maybe an hour deal. 930 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 1: It's like a book signing, fawning of you. What are 931 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 1: some of the weirder things or even shocking things we 932 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: hear about rock stars get the letters in the mail 933 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: and you know, undergarments and stuff like that. What is 934 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 1: the weirdest kind of thing you've gotten. 935 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 4: I've received some pictures that you're probably never going to 936 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 4: be able to unsee in your life. That's amazing, amazing, 937 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 4: And you just go, really. 938 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,959 Speaker 1: It's flattering kind of though, kevinly, isn't it? No? 939 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, it's just like I mean, there's some pictures 940 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 4: that I've gotten where you go like, y'all have been 941 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 4: better off keeping your clothes. 942 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: Definitely, that's great. 943 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 4: Well, TJ, come on, now, there's just some there's some 944 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 4: things you just can't unsee. 945 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 1: Well, it's still just to think that someone thinks the 946 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: stranger thinks enough of you, or thinks you're so adorable 947 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 1: that it's worth taking the clothes off and sending a 948 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: stranger a picture. I mean, that's I don't know. 949 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 4: Think about what you just said. 950 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, as it was coming out, it sounded dumber and dumber. 951 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 3: Yes, Captain Lee, you mentioned just it kind of sparks 952 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 3: because I wanted to ask you this. You said Thailand 953 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 3: was one of your favorite places. You've been all over 954 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 3: the world. I think so many of us love traveling 955 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 3: and want to know what is Do you have a 956 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 3: favorite place you've ever been, you've ever sailed? Just I 957 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 3: want to know from a man who's seen almost everything, 958 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 3: what's your favorite place. 959 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I've been there yet, but of the 960 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 4: places I've been, Tahiti probably ranks up there at the 961 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 4: top because it was so nice. Here we are, we're 962 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 4: on a one hundred and eighty five foot vote. It's 963 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,720 Speaker 4: just dropped dead gorgeous. And you know when you travel 964 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 4: by yacht throughout the you know, like go up to 965 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 4: the Hamptons, try and get a dog spot. It's not 966 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 4: going to happen in the high season. Go to France. 967 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 4: You're just another billionaire with a big boat, nobody really cares. 968 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 4: But in Tahiti, you pull into an anchorage, there may 969 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 4: be one other boat there, and you've got the whole 970 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 4: anchorage to yourself. In fact, Jimmy Buffett wrote a song 971 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 4: about it. It was called One Particular Harbor. I don't know that, 972 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 4: and I have been to that harbor, and now I 973 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 4: understand why he wrote the song, because as soon as 974 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 4: you got inside that harbor and you were back in 975 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 4: the calm water, drop the hook, it was so serene, 976 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 4: so peaceful, and you you realize that you could spend 977 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 4: an endless amount of time there just thinking, contemplating, just 978 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 4: sharing it with someone. 979 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: Okay, that's nice. We got to go to Tahiti. Tell 980 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: me this guy and lead met Mediterranean Sailing yacht down 981 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: under Adventure. Which of those below deck spinoffs is your favorite? 982 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 4: Not going there? 983 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:09,479 Speaker 1: Oh? 984 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 2: Or isn't? 985 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you've seen them all. There's what I have? 986 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: Why not go there? I thought that was an easy question. 987 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 4: I I don't think it's it's right because I have 988 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 4: I have a certain way that I prefer doing things, 989 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 4: and of course I think everybody else is wrong, but 990 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 4: I have a certain way that I use and I 991 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,959 Speaker 4: have certain things that I I try to stay away from, 992 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 4: and judging someone else's whether especially a peer of mine, 993 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 4: judging their performance or how they handle something is not 994 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 4: something that I'm willing to do in a public form. 995 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: Well to that point, well, I was just kind of 996 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: not as a criticism of any other. But to your point, 997 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: it seemed like, I mean, Robot and I here have watched. 998 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 4: Well, it seems like if I don't, if I go 999 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 4: ahead and I say, okay below deck Shaling is my favorite. 1000 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: Then everybody else will be mad? 1001 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 4: What's what's wrong with the other three? 1002 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? There it is. No, Yeah, I'm just I'm. 1003 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 4: Proud of the fact that I was the first one 1004 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 4: and then we had four more spin offs. 1005 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, got there. He's been he's figuring this whole 1006 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: thing out years. But to your point there, it seemed 1007 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: like a lot of people. Again, Robot and I watched 1008 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: all of your seasons, and we saw when Captain Sandy 1009 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: came in so to read that people were trying to 1010 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: make like a beef between the two of you. They 1011 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: seemed to want to cause some kind of controversy. We 1012 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: didn't see it necessarily watched it. So about your relationship 1013 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: with Camptain Sandy. It didn't seem like there was any 1014 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: animosity between the two of you, but people. 1015 00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 2: Wrote about it. 1016 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do things differently and there are certain things 1017 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 4: that we don't see eye to eye on. But I 1018 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 4: think that's true in any profession. That's why you get 1019 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 4: a second opinion when you go to the doctor. 1020 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Bottom line, how is your relationship with Captain Sandy? 1021 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 4: That's fine. Like I said, we don't see the eye 1022 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 4: to eye and a lot of things, but she has 1023 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 4: a job to do. I commend her for for, you know, 1024 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 4: her achievements, because there's not a lot of female captains 1025 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 4: in the in the Meggiat world, and most people don't 1026 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 4: understand how rigorous and how difficult it is not only 1027 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 4: to achieve it, but to keep it right. 1028 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 2: So it sounds like there's professional respect. Is there a friendship? No, 1029 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 2: and that's okay, but I'm fine with that. 1030 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of people I don't like, but 1031 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 4: I respect them. 1032 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 2: He's freaking out because you and I sound so much alike. 1033 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 4: I don't. I've had people on board that I don't 1034 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 4: like that have worked with me, and I don't have 1035 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 4: to like you. If you're doing a good job, and 1036 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 4: I like your performance. What you're doing. Your personal life 1037 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 4: is your business. 1038 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: Can we ask you about the new guy, Keptain Carrie? Carrie? 1039 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: All right? Can we ask you? 1040 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 4: I've met Carrie a time or two, We've had a 1041 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 4: discussion or two, and I really don't have an opinion 1042 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 4: one way or the other as far as Carrie goes. 1043 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: After watching him on the show, after watching how he works, 1044 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: or just after your personal one on one interaction both. 1045 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 4: You know, you're always going to look at at somebody 1046 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 4: that doing your job in a fashion where you go like, 1047 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have done that that way. I had handle 1048 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 4: that differently. 1049 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it. 1050 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that somebody's wrong, It just means you're different. 1051 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 2: So, Captain Lee, if you were going to set sail 1052 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 2: on a new season, who would be your dream team cast? 1053 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 1054 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 4: That's question, And that's another area I won't all right, 1055 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 4: I will give you I would have Eddie and Kate. 1056 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Okay and Eddie, Eddie and Kate. I get that, that's totally. 1057 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 4: There's so many that were so much fun and were 1058 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 4: such hard workers. Connie was one. Yeah, she was a 1059 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 4: great deckhand, fun to be around. Ah, love to play jokes, 1060 01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 4: you know. I mean, who brings a sewing machine board 1061 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 4: a yacht. 1062 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 2: With them, Connie, Yeah. 1063 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 4: And you know what she did with it. She would 1064 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 4: watch the deck through how they put their shorts on 1065 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 4: in the morning because doors are open all over the place. 1066 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 4: Nobody there's no modesty whatsoever, So they're putting their shorts 1067 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 4: on in the morning. And then when she got the opportunity, 1068 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 4: she would take the opposite leg and sow it shut 1069 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 4: so they'd get the one leg in, then they go 1070 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 4: to put the other one in and it wouldn't go through, 1071 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 4: and they'd fall on their rasps and she'd start laughing. 1072 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 4: And then by the time they got that it's situation 1073 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 4: straightened around, they'd go to put their deck shoes in 1074 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 4: and find out there was stuff full of shaving cream. 1075 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 4: It's like. 1076 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 2: Keeping everybody home. 1077 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 4: There have been so many people on board that were just, 1078 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 4: you know, just really great to work with, a lot 1079 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 4: of fun and that I would love to work with 1080 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 4: again given the opportunity. But I mean, way too many 1081 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 4: to mention. And it's pretty rare that you had anybody 1082 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 4: back for a second season. I think Eddie and Kate 1083 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:17,439 Speaker 4: were the only two outside of Frasier that actually made 1084 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 4: the cut to come back for more than one season. 1085 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: Please please tell us we like Fraser? Is he good? People? 1086 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: Because we really liked him. Surprisingly, he snuck up on 1087 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: us and we're like, wow, we really like this guy. 1088 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 4: Yes he is. 1089 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: He's a real deal. 1090 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 4: Okay, good, He's very sincere. I used to die laughing 1091 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 4: when he'd start talking to himself. 1092 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 2: He's such a perfectionist. 1093 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he would come. He would come back from a 1094 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 4: conversation with somebody that would just like jerk his chain 1095 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 4: and he would be talking to himself under his breath. 1096 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 2: We get that. 1097 01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 4: I and I and I keep going crazier. You're on 1098 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 4: a hot mic. 1099 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 1: So kem leeh Is there any chance or what are 1100 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: the chances we will see you on TV at the 1101 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 1: helm of a boat on Bravo or wherever it may be, 1102 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: or back on below deck where we would like to 1103 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: see you. But is there is that in the car. 1104 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 4: I don't know how much chance there is that I'll 1105 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 4: be back on TV at the helm of a boat, 1106 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 4: but I think I can feel pretty safe in saying 1107 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 4: that there is a distinct chance that I will be 1108 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 4: back on TV in the not too distant future. 1109 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 2: That's very exciting, and that's. 1110 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 4: About as much as I'm without really getting my hands slapped. 1111 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait. 1112 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 4: That I can say about it there. 1113 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 2: It's not the same without you, So I know you've 1114 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much. 1115 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 4: You're very kind from. 1116 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 3: So many people, but you are one of the main 1117 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 3: reasons why we kept watching. So thank you for helping 1118 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 3: us us truly get through last year with some levity 1119 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 3: and some lessons and some wanderlust because we actually made 1120 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 3: a vacation around one of the destinations. So thank you 1121 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 3: for all that you have done, and just thank you 1122 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 3: for being yourself. Just to see somebody in this world 1123 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 3: of reality TV actually be real is awesome and you 1124 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 3: embody that. 1125 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 2: So thank you, Captain Lee. 1126 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 4: It's my pleasure and thank you. I can't tell you 1127 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 4: what it means to be on your show. I'm honored 1128 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 4: and it's been very enjoyable. And I can't say that 1129 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 4: about a lot of podcasts. I can't say that about 1130 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 4: a lot of podcasts and appearances that I've made over 1131 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 4: the years that I actually enjoyed it and had a 1132 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 4: good time coming from you. This is definitely one of them. 1133 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so much. Kaviie we'll see on 1134 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: the seas, brother, all. 1135 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 4: Right, catch it. Everybody on the flip side by bye 1136 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 4: bye bye