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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back into the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for Roland with us. Great to

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Speaker 1: have you. Much to discuss here. Ukraine situation continuing to deteriorate,

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Speaker 1: the war in that country getting worse, more violent, more casualties.

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Speaker 1: We had assumed that that was going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it is. There's been something of a shift, though,

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Speaker 1: I think in the last few days. In the early

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Speaker 1: moments of this conflict, there was a lot, a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk, somebody even say a lot of war propaganda

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Speaker 1: about how the Russians, no way they could continue on.

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Speaker 1: The Russian war machine was going to grind to a halt,

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Speaker 1: the sanctions were going to crush them quickly, This would

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Speaker 1: all be over and the glorious Ukrainian resistance would be victorious.

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Speaker 1: That's not how wars play out, and this is a

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Speaker 1: very real war that has incredibly high stakes, as we know,

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Speaker 1: for the people of Ukraine and so for the whole world.

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Speaker 1: When you add into it the thousands of Russian nuclear

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Speaker 1: weapons that loom in the background of all of this,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit more realism in the

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Speaker 1: analysis of this. Now more generally in the media, as

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Speaker 1: we see the strikes, missile strikes hitting everything from hospitals

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Speaker 1: to the headquarters of some foreign units that have arrived

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Speaker 1: to fight alongside the Ukrainians, people are recognizing more, I think,

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Speaker 1: as they see the images on their screens how bad

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Speaker 1: this is and how serious this fight is likely to

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Speaker 1: continue to be. Joe Biden actually said on the issue

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Speaker 1: of sending troops to Ukraine, well, I'll let him say it.

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Speaker 1: We're showing us strength and we'll never falter. But look

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Speaker 1: the idea, the idea that we're going to send in

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Speaker 1: offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going

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Speaker 1: in with American pilots and American crews. Just understand, kid yourself,

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Speaker 1: no matter what you'll say, that's called World War three. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get it straight here, guys. At all expression, don't

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Speaker 1: kid a kidder world War three. I would first note

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Speaker 1: that a year ago Biden promise to shut down the virus,

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Speaker 1: to turn on the economy and to restore normalcy and unity.

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Speaker 1: And now we're being told go buy a Tesla peasant.

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Speaker 1: Gas prices are going to get higher and higher, Inflation

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Speaker 1: is going to get worse, and hopefully we won't be

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Speaker 1: in the midst of World War three. So I think

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Speaker 1: you could all consider Biden's Year one to be a

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Speaker 1: massive fail, even by Democrats standards. Beyond that, Clay, this

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Speaker 1: is not over when we think about this discussion about

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Speaker 1: what the US involvement here should be. Send NATO troops

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Speaker 1: to western Ukraine. This is the Wall Street Journal today.

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Speaker 1: A show of force inside the country would save lives

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Speaker 1: and deprive putent of the ability to dictate events. That

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Speaker 1: was just published. What was it yesterday in the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal in their editorial page. Just to give you

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Speaker 1: one example of what's being talked about now. A limited

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Speaker 1: no fly zone, which I think I said they would

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Speaker 1: call for in the West where we're now seeing in

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Speaker 1: real time this country be cleaved in two and oh,

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Speaker 1: we don't want a full scale no fly zone, we

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Speaker 1: want a limited no fly zone. Again, creeping toward a

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Speaker 1: reality with Russia that we need to be very cautious against.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this off the air the latest

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine, and I wondered how long it would take

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Speaker 1: buck for the American public, As much as there might

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Speaker 1: be an interest in Ukraine for that interest to begin

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Speaker 1: to wane, and over the weekend I believe it was,

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Speaker 1: Axios published a study on online traffic to Ukraine related articles,

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Speaker 1: and it basically has fallen off a cliff. First eight

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Speaker 1: nine days, first week of the Ukraine story, people couldn't

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Speaker 1: get enough of it. The drama of following this war

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Speaker 1: in Europe was unbelievably compelling to your average American. But

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Speaker 1: guess what happens, Buck, The stories, even as they are

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Speaker 1: becoming worse, are easier to understand. That first imagery of

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Speaker 1: fighting for Kiev tonight. You thought that there would be

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Speaker 1: some sort of massive story change, and what's happened is

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Speaker 1: what you predicted, Buck. We basically entered the long slog

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Speaker 1: of war here where you're making progress if you're Russia,

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Speaker 1: a couple of miles a day. The overall rate of

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Speaker 1: casualty is increasing fairly rapidly, but the day to day

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Speaker 1: everybody put up their Ukraine flag on social media, all

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Speaker 1: But how long do you think this process plays out? Right,

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Speaker 1: Because I think there's a lot of people out there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think this goes on for a couple more weeks

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Speaker 1: will stretch on with intermittent ceasefires. This is all prediction, folks.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong. That will eventually create a Russian

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Speaker 1: protectorate in much of eastern Ukraine and a full Russian

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Speaker 1: federation absorbtion of the so called independent region of don

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Speaker 1: I think Zelinsky survives and remains in power for the

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Speaker 1: many people are following him as the heroic protagonist of

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Speaker 1: the Ukraine Russia struggle. What seems likely to you to

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Speaker 1: I think the Russian militarily, he's not a significant target

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Speaker 1: an obvious target for the Russians insofar as the martyrdom

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Speaker 1: of Zelenski may create an even emboldened resistance among the

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Speaker 1: Ukrainians because Russia at the end of this wants to

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Speaker 1: And you know, there are some some things that I

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Speaker 1: he can be guided, because look, I mean, obviously he

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Speaker 1: so he's using escalating force to try to punish the

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Speaker 1: Ukrainians enough that they will give him what he wants

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Speaker 1: at the negotiating table. Right if he wanted to completely

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Speaker 1: level one of these cities, there's very little that could

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Speaker 1: be done to stop him. But he's coming pretty close

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Speaker 1: the mind of a very immoral and vicious fellow with

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Speaker 1: the changing perception by the way Clay I had been surprised.

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Speaker 1: In the first week or so of this conflict, we

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Speaker 1: were told that seventy five percent of the American people,

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Speaker 1: I remember correctly, yes, seventy five percent of them supported

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Speaker 1: a no fly zone over Ukraine. The most recent polling

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Speaker 1: which is another way of saying, yeah, people realize we

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Speaker 1: don't want a war with Russia because a no fly

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Speaker 1: zone over Ukraine would absolutely be viewed as an active

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Speaker 1: war by Russia. How would they respond to that? We

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Speaker 1: don't know, but that because to do a no fly

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Speaker 1: so relying on pole question answers to help dictate American policy,

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Speaker 1: based on that difference that you're explicating there in essentially

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Speaker 1: word choice. Nobody wants World War three. Everybody in theory

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Speaker 1: we're talking about eventually an agreement where part of Ukraine

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Speaker 1: there wonder several things. One would Russia stay happy with

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Speaker 1: reintegrated into the global market place. Well, when there's some

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Speaker 1: to things like war. But Clay, Russia is going to

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Speaker 1: That doesn't happen. Yes, So this is what I mean

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Speaker 1: is back on the United Nation. I don't know right now,

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Speaker 1: just not possible. He knows that countries won't care enough

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Speaker 1: all goes into is very machiavellian calculations. Well, his idea

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Speaker 1: to be after so much of a statement being made

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Speaker 1: level economic input in terms. I mean, the oligarchs get

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Speaker 1: I did see the Texas National Guard dispatched by Governor Abbott.

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Speaker 1: Those guys were sprinting at times trying to chase down

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Speaker 1: seen in regards to that. They would mosey up and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't seeing that. When I was there several months ago,

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Speaker 1: watched Catholic charities give plane tickets to the migrants to

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Speaker 1: head further into the US. So it's just a very

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Speaker 1: strange scenario. I think that's why we see border patrols

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Speaker 1: morale plummeting, because they're sitting there questionings whether you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what they seem to be doing now, Ivory,

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Speaker 1: what do we know about fentnol and other drugs crossing

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Speaker 1: did you hear about that. Yeah. Shadowing the border, the militia,

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Speaker 1: they were always on the lookout for drugs. They said

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Speaker 1: Like at one point the militia was cracking open cans

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Speaker 1: of tuna. There was a bag of food in it,

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Speaker 1: but they said previously they had encountered a bag of

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Speaker 1: food and when they opened the containers of food, it

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Speaker 1: job was just going through what is left there. I'm

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Speaker 1: making sure none of it is drugs because that is

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Speaker 1: such an issue. Ivory Hecker dot com for more of

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Speaker 1: Ivory's reporting from down on the border. Ivory, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for being with us. We appreciate it. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And it's all on YouTube. I put the I put

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Speaker 1: the coverage of the border on YouTube. Oh fantastic. Well

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Speaker 1: what's your YouTube channel? Just search Ivory Hecker. All righty,

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher and he had a good point which we

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Speaker 1: and that central question is if Trump was such in

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Speaker 1: cahoots with Russia, which obviously he wasn't but why didn't

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Speaker 1: in office? Why did he wait? And that's a question

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Speaker 1: that the most anti Trump people don't have a good

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Speaker 1: answer for. And building on that, even Trevor Noah, who

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever seen him make fun of

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Speaker 1: Biden not to be able to get on the phone

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Speaker 1: with the UAE or with Saudi Arabia as he's been

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Speaker 1: When people like Trevor Noah on The Daily Show, who

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Speaker 1: took over for John Stewart and by the way, we

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Speaker 1: took over for a legend, Trevor Noah taking over for

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Speaker 1: John Stewart, is it fair to say that that's been

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Speaker 1: an unrequited disaster? Fuck? I mean that in terms of influence,

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Speaker 1: like do you hardly even hear the Daily Show matter anymore?

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Speaker 1: effective point of Bush criticism in the media during the

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Speaker 1: Iraq War years. For the Democrats, and I think that

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Speaker 1: Trevor Noah isn't able to get anywhere, not even a

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Speaker 1: fraction of the relevance. Although I do think he's paid

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Speaker 1: like fifteen million dollars of course, because you know, corporate media,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he's not. I just don't remember him

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Speaker 1: even hardly making news right, like in any way negative

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Speaker 1: if he wanted to be relevant, maybe he would follow

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Speaker 1: more in And you know, I'm sure his audience is there,

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Speaker 1: oh right, I'm probably as I don't know, close to

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Speaker 1: a million people maybe watch that show a night something

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Speaker 1: like that. But you see what Bill Maher has done.

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher is is speaking to people on the right.

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher is saying things that at least show a

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Speaker 1: willingness to grapple with reality. Although as I said, don't

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Speaker 1: ask him about climate change because he's a lunatic on

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Speaker 1: climate change, But on some issues wokeness and COVID stuff,

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Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, enough is enough. You know, there is

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Speaker 1: a window here for people to actually speak to their

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Speaker 1: own side, because they'll never libs will never listen to

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Speaker 1: you and me. Really, by the way, I centrist democrats.

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Speaker 1: I hope all of them listen to this show and

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Speaker 1: give us a chance. I think I think we've got some.

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Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the hardcore Antifa supporting announce my

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Speaker 1: pronouns when there's nobody even listening to me, Like those

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Speaker 1: are people. You are a pronoun person, You're probably not.

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Speaker 1: there are Democrats who I think could speak to them

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Speaker 1: and would be doing the country a service. We need

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Speaker 1: to play the Trevor. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I want to play the jo. This is one of

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Speaker 1: the first times I remember even having a Trevor Noah

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Speaker 1: clip that was circulating at all on social media. I

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Speaker 1: wonder what he said, and this is what he said,

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia isn't playing ball with Joe Biden, and you

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Speaker 1: know what, you can say what you want, but this

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Speaker 1: would have never happened to Donald Trump. Never. No one

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Speaker 1: was ever ignoring Donald Trump's calls. Yeah, because if you

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'd send an angry tweets, or maybe he'd just

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Speaker 1: why I've been in these situations. Biden actually wishes that

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Speaker 1: You know, just keep everyone on their toes, because if

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Speaker 1: would here do here, Hello, Julie, doc met you made

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Speaker 1: me wait? Two rings. We're bombing the UAE and the

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Speaker 1: UFCT just in case. Now he's making fun of Trump,

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Speaker 1: but there is some truth to what he's saying. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is and this is what I mean

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Speaker 1: because I remember when Trump was president, I would always say,

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Speaker 1: whatever he's dealing when he was dealing with any of

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Speaker 1: the tyrants on the world stage that you can name,

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Speaker 1: whether it was in Iran or North Korea or Putin

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Speaker 1: or whomever, it was always you don't know how this

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Speaker 1: guy's going to react to you. And you know, you

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Speaker 1: think about it this way. If you're picking a fight,

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Speaker 1: if you're a bad guy, if you're a bully and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pick a fight with someone in a bar,

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Speaker 1: you don't pick a fight with the guy that you

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Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna do. In response, you pick

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Speaker 1: a fight with the guy's gonna say, oh, I'm sorry, okay, Oh,

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Speaker 1: can I buy you a drink? Trump wasn't there. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna buy you a drink, guy, That's for sure. No.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's underlying the essence of why Putin

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Speaker 1: He didn't know, and there's an element of value in

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Speaker 1: being having that uncertainty associated with it. Right now, Russia

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Speaker 1: knows what exactly. I guarantee you they can sit down

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Speaker 1: and map out exactly what Joe Biden is going to do,

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Speaker 1: because the United States is trying to be very clear

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Speaker 1: that game. And there is Look, while Trevor Noah is

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Speaker 1: his joke is accurate. The UAE and Saudi Arabia would

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Speaker 1: not have refused to speak with Donald Trump on the phone.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I think if Donald Trump were president,

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Speaker 1: invaded by Vladimir Putin. But if it had been, I

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Speaker 1: Middle East buck that I believe Saudi Arabia and other

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Speaker 1: the world by producing more in order to curry favor

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Speaker 1: with Trump and have and maintain good relationships with his administration.

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Speaker 1: I really do believe that. I mean, let's be honest

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Speaker 1: and people, Trump's advisors didn't want to upset him. You

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Speaker 1: can't imagine if you're you know, you're one these dictators

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Speaker 1: that you think you're gonna outplay Chess on the trump board,

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Speaker 1: he might flip the sorry outplay Trump on the chessboard.

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Speaker 1: The trump board would also be cool. It's not its

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into more on the economy and inflation

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Speaker 1: coming up here in a few moments, because it's not

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Speaker 1: going to good places. Folks and Democrats are in a

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Speaker 1: because the midterms could be the biggest wipe out they've

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Speaker 1: seen in decade, perhaps in living memory, and certainly hope.

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Speaker 1: So we'll push on that gas prices, inflation, the Biden regime, Clay,

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Speaker 1: what else am I leaving out here? I mean, the

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Speaker 1: solution for all of this is even dumber than defund

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Speaker 1: the police. That's the tease. You're gonna love the clips

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Speaker 1: we play. Democrats have the answer for the high price

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Speaker 1: of oil. Are you going to believe what it is?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, but you're gonna be enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: That's next Final Hour, Monday Edition,