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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL players Pokings. I am, and yes

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Speaker 1: Willie the name. I'm hanging out with Tim Grunghard and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the hard times that he experienced

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Speaker 1: in the churches. We're also going to find out he's

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Speaker 1: dispelled the myth about the office of linement being the

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Speaker 1: most intelligent position players on the team. And then he

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Speaker 1: gets the chance to be the forty six player inducted

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Speaker 1: into the Kenson the Chiefs Ring of Fame and their

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Let's listen in Tim, I always see

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Speaker 1: this exchange with the quarterback and pointing out the mic

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Speaker 1: backer so to speak. Was that as prevalent doing your

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Speaker 1: you know even more, I think back in the day

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks nowadays have a lot more responsibility, and I

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Speaker 1: thought it was always important for the center to kind

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Speaker 1: of just take that away. Howard Mudd, who is my

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach, God rested soul just an awesome, awesome person,

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Speaker 1: you know. He said, listen, you've got to be confident

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Speaker 1: in your calls, and you've got to make the right calls.

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Speaker 1: But more important than that, just make sure that the

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Speaker 1: guys next you believe in you and understand what you're

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Speaker 1: trying to get across to them, right or wrong. You

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Speaker 1: all got to be on the same page. And that's

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Speaker 1: something I learned early, and I learned that from Mike Webster,

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Speaker 1: who was my mentor. He was with me one year

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I was so blessed to have a

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Speaker 1: I never played center. I showed up to mini camp

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Speaker 1: He was spinning a football. He said, we're gonna try

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Speaker 1: kind of like okay. He said, here's a football, go

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Speaker 1: over to Steve de Burgh across the room and take

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Speaker 1: knew his brother, Jay Hayes, who was a coach of

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Speaker 1: brogue that he had. He goes, okay, man, let's go.

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Speaker 1: And he got up and he was nice enough, but

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Speaker 1: the way, when you're a center and you play some

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Speaker 1: that feeling of the center quarterback exchange, which is a

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Speaker 1: So at one staff before I went out to play

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Speaker 1: that's something I had to learn. You're never gonna be perfect,

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Speaker 1: long as the guy's next, you trust that you are

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Speaker 1: doing the best you possibly can. You do it with conviction,

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Speaker 1: you can get away with it. You had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: What did you learn from Mud as a young player

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Speaker 1: You know, you're that young collegian kind of kid coming

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Speaker 1: he said to me, He's like, listen, I want you

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Speaker 1: There's nothing perfect in the game, and you got to

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have that places, You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: And Howard really taught us that he was such a

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Speaker 1: was just so smart and just had such a big heart.

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Speaker 1: I was so blessed to have Howard has my offensive

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Speaker 1: I was playing against the Denver Broncos about halfway through

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Speaker 1: the season. Earlier in that year, my father passed away.

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Speaker 1: So I went through a tough time, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: We've all had those games where you know, you're just

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Speaker 1: Now he's done that before, you know, Mike, If if

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Speaker 1: One of the things that will will never admit this,

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Speaker 1: you just talked about the power of a great teammate,

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like a great team mate lifts you up.

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Speaker 1: Are there people that lift you up? Now? Absolutely, many,

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Speaker 1: many people. And you know, in Kansas City we have

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Speaker 1: and like Mike Webster said, you know, football ends for everybody,

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Speaker 1: The unique bond between off the line and a different

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Speaker 1: We saw the Super Bowl this year at the Cancer

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Speaker 1: where the offensive line is. Whether the left tackle or

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Speaker 1: the right guard, you're all one and your performance hinges

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Speaker 1: on everybody playing at a high level. It's like a

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Speaker 1: microcosm of life in a family. You know, when one

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Speaker 1: about eleven or twelve years in the NFL, like I

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Speaker 1: was able to do so. Coaching as a high school coach,

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Speaker 1: still safe to him, there is a level of intelligence

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Speaker 1: take notes. And when you play football for you Virtue

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