1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's the Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. Hey, I'm Amy Brown and 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: I am filling in for Kelly while she's out and 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: I host a podcast it's called Four Things with Amy Brown. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: So I'm actually bringing the four Things theme into this 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: episode and the one that I'm gonna do later in 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: the week. Now. Today, we're focusing on the velvet side 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: of Velvet's Edge, the softer side of me that gets 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: vulnerable and talks about certain things. And I chose to 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: talk about my eating disorder for y'all in this episode, 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: and I'm currently in recovery, super thankful for that, but 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: it definitely takes work. So by sharing four things that 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: have helped me in my recovery, I hope that at 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: least one person listening that might be dealing with restricting 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: binging consistently or call instantly dieting over exercising, maybe missing 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: out on family meals or dinners out with friends. I mean, 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: the list goes on for the number of disordered behaviors 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: that one part takes in when they're dealing with an 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: e D. But my hope is that these four things 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to share with you, will um just tools 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: you can keep in your back pocket, or just it'll 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: be encouragement to you to maybe take little steps towards 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: recovery or staying in recovery. Now, the first thing I 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: want to share is eating disorder recovery Instagram accounts. I 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: follow a lot of them, but one of my favorites 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: is Jennifer Rawlin. She's an eating disorder therapist and her 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: handle is at Jennifer Underscore Rawlin r O L L 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: I N. And again, she's want of several that I 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: followed that shares a lot of eady content. And the 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: reason why I follow so many accounts like hers is 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: because I want to see things that remind my brain 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: to stay on this path of recovery. I do not 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: want to go back to my disordered behaviors, and that 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: takes a lot of work. Now, it takes a lot 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: more work than just following certain recovery accounts on Instagram, 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: that's for sure. But it doesn't hurt things. It just 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: adds to it, again, a little tool in my toolbox. 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: So I want you to think about accounts that you follow, like, 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: are you triggered by certain things that are posted like 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: maybe you need to eat a certain way, or you 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: need to work out more than you really want to, 42 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: or you're dealing with someone's before and after picks and 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: those are not serving you. Well, it might be time 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: to maybe mute some of those accounts and focus on 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: the ones that are going to help you unlearn diet 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: culture instead of reinforcing it. Now, it's not that some 47 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: of those accounts or those people posting any of that 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: are bad. I mean, they might even be your friend 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: and that's okay. It's just that their content might not 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: be for you. If you are actively in and eating 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: disorder or in recovery, it just is not It's not 52 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: the content for you. So I just want to share 53 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: a few of Jennifer rawlins most recent posts so y'all 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: can get an idea of the things that are helpful 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: for me to see. So Jennifer put up, I don't 56 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: know who needs to hear this, but you don't have 57 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: to wait until you feel ready to start recovering from 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: your eating disorder. You can take the first step today. Now, 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: I really like that post because it's a reminder that 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: it really is about just taking the first step. You 61 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: don't have to go zero to sixty right off the bat. 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: You don't, you don't start recovering in them. Boom boom, 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: You're done eating disorders now in the past. No, it 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: really is one step at a time, one day at 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: a time, maybe even one minute at a time. However, 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: you need to look at it. Another one of Jennifer's 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: posts is weight loss and Gain tells you nothing about 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: a person's health, happiness, habits, or life circumstances. The person 69 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: that you are praising for their weight loss could be 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: suffering from a eating disorder, from cancer, depression, grief, the 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: die at binge cycle, or intense self hatred. Now, the 72 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: reason why I like saying posts like that is because 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: it's a reminder that I don't need a comment on 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: people's bodies, and I wish everyone would stop commenting on 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: people's bodies. Jonah Hill was recently in the news talking 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: about He was like, I'm tired of people commenting on 77 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: my body. I don't want anybody to ever comment on 78 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: my body again. Now I'm paraphrasing there. You can google 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: it and go see what he put up. But it 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: was amazing because he got so much news coverage for it. 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: It was everywhere, and it started a good conversation about 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: how we need to stop doing that. I know that 83 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: when I was in the throes of my eating disorder, 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: if someone complimented that I was looking skinny, it added 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: fuel to the fire and it would cause me to 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: continue with poor behavior that was not good for me 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: at all whatsoever. Like in fact, I was really depressed 88 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: on the inside, but they were motivating me by day. 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, those comments to keep going. And then you know, 90 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: on the other side of things that she mentioned, like 91 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: if there's grief going on, or intense self hatred or 92 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: the cancer, the depression, there might be, Uh, you have 93 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: no idea what's going on. So then you compliment someone 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: on their weight loss, but yet you don't know of 95 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: the illness or disease that they might be dealing with, 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: and then they just feel sad about that, or there 97 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: could be certain shames surrounding it. So maybe just find 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: other things that you can say to compliment someone have 99 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: nothing to do with their body our looks um. Another 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: post that Jennifer put up just a friendly reminder restricting 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: calories isn't actually good for you. Calories equal energy. I 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: just love that as a reminder that yes, we need 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: calories in order for our bodies to function. Another thing 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: Jennifer put up was this unpopular opinion. She said, when 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: your body and mind is craving rest, going to the 106 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: gym is an unhealthy choice. And yeah, society would tell 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: us that going to the gym, no matter what, is 108 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: the healthiest thing you can do for your body. But 109 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: I love that she's speaking out and sharing her unpopular 110 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: opinion that actually, what might be better for you one 111 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: day is to ignore that voice and know that it 112 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: is absolutely okay for you to do nothing. Now, the 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: second thing I want to share has nothing to do 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: with Instagram. It's actually a book that was a big 115 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: contributor to my personal recovery. It's called Brain over Binge. 116 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: And I pulled the book description in case it might 117 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: be helpful to anyone listening right now. I mean, this 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: book was such a game changer for me. Actually, it 119 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of does have to do with Instagram because I 120 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: learned about it from Kale Junkie that her name is Nicole, 121 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: but her handle is at kale junkie, and she's pretty 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: open about her past eating disorder, and she had posted 123 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: one day that Brain over Binge was super helpful in her, 124 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, recovery. So I thought, well, I'm desperate, I'm 125 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: going to order anything and everything, and this book was 126 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: so perfect for me. It's not for everybody, but if 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: this sounds like it might be helpful for you, here 128 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: is the description. Brain over Binge provides both a gripping 129 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: personal account and an informative scientific perspective on bolimia and 130 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: binge eating disorder. The author, Catherine Hansen, candidly shares her 131 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: experience as a boliemic and her alternative approach to recovery. 132 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: Brain over Binge is different than other eating disorder books, 133 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: which typically present binge eating and purging as symptoms of 134 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: complex emotional and psychological problems. Catherine disputes this mainstream idea 135 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: and explains why traditional eating disorder therapy failed her and 136 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: fails many She explains how she came to understand her 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: bolimia in a new way as a function of her brain, 138 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: and how she used the power of her brain to 139 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: recover quickly and permanently. Catherine also sheds new light on 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: eating disorder topics such as low self esteem, poor body image, 141 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: and die eating. Brain over Binge is a brave book 142 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: that will help many by delivering an informed and inspiring 143 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: message of free will, self reliance, and self control. There 144 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: you go, keep that one in your back pocket if 145 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: you think you might need to order that one day, 146 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: or maybe as soon as you quit listening to this podcast. 147 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: So the third thing I want to share with you 148 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: is on this little trick called acting as if. And 149 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: it's actually something that helps me to this day. And 150 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: it's something that I learned from Jennifer Rowlin. Just kind 151 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: of getting two shoutouts here, but acting as if has 152 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: been so helpful and pretty much it means that if 153 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: you're doing something, uh like, say you're out out to eat, 154 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: will make that you're something like you're you're going out 155 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: to eat, and you normally would not look at any 156 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: other part of the menu besides salads because typically I 157 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: had trained my brain when I get to a restaurant, 158 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: the first thing I do is check out the salads, 159 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: because that has That's just what I had told myself 160 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: that that's the only way I was going to allow 161 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: myself to eat out. So now what I do is 162 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at a menu like I was at 163 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: an Italian restaurant recently, I opened up the menu and 164 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: I just skipped the salads. Maybe I'm not even craving 165 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: a salad. I don't know. I never used to give 166 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: myself the opportunity to figure out if I even wanted 167 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: a salad, so I instantly took myself to the pizza 168 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: and the pasta. And so what that did is and 169 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: I just acted like that was normal for me, like, oh, 170 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go check out the pizza and pasta. I'm 171 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: acting as if And then it turns out some of 172 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: the pizza and the pasta really did look good to me. 173 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: I ended up selling settling on a barbecue chicken pizza 174 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: because that sounded super awesome, but a salad kind of 175 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: sounded good, so I ordered a small side salad and 176 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the pizza. I would have never have allowed myself to 177 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: do such a thing, But instead of acting like the 178 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: pizza with some sort of prize or treat that I 179 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: had to earn, I acted as if it was normal 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: for me to do this now the past. In the past, 181 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: if maybe I had allowed myself a bite or a 182 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: slice or something of the pizza, maybe because somebody else 183 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: even ordered it, I would have wanted to eat the 184 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: whole thing and just totally overeat because, of course, after 185 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: I ate that pizza, I was never going to allow 186 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: myself pizza again. Have you been there with that you 187 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: know you're eating something, You're like, oh, I might as 188 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: well eat as much as I can right now because 189 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm never eating this again. But with as if thinking, 190 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: I acted as if me eating the pizza was no 191 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: big deal. So I didn't have pizza on a pedestal. 192 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Therefore my brain was able to just enjoy it and 193 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: the salad that I ordered, and I didn't over eat. Now, 194 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: this definitely takes some practice, but next time you catch 195 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: yourself looking at salads or turning down a food because 196 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: it's quote bad, which food is not good or bad 197 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: by the way, but that's a whole another conversation, I 198 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: challenge you to order it at a restaurant and eat 199 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: it as if it's normal. Or I challenge you to 200 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: grab it off the shelf at the grocery store and 201 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: put it in your cart and then put it in 202 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: your pantry as if it's normal. And this is coming 203 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: from someone that I literally couldn't keep oreos in my 204 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: house at least I didn't think that I could. But 205 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: the as if mentality has helped me a lot. I 206 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: now have oreos in my pantry and I'm not tempted 207 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: to eat them all at once or have to eat 208 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: them every day, or eat too many. And you know what, 209 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: if I happen to eat too many one day, it's 210 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: not a big deal. It doesn't lead to a binge, 211 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: which would then have led to restricting for you know, 212 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: three days doing some crazy juice cleans or something like that. 213 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: My life just is able to go on now. And 214 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: I know that this is easier said than done, and 215 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: that's why I encourage you to practice the as IF method. Now. 216 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: The fourth and final thing I want to share with 217 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: you is a podcast that I do on this very 218 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: topic because I don't want anyone to feel alone if 219 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: they have an eating disorder, and that's the main reason 220 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: why we started doing this podcast. My co host is 221 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: a registered dietitian that has an anti diet culture approach 222 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: to things, and she's also a great follow on Instagram. 223 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: She is at Lisa Hame. Her last name is It 224 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: sounds like Hay, but it's spelled h a y I am, 225 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: and our podcast that we co host together is called Outweigh, 226 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: and we titled it that because of life without disordered 227 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: eating outweighs everything. So I encourage you to search for 228 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: Outweigh wherever you listen to podcasts if you would like 229 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: more encouragement on this topic. We have other experts that 230 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: come on and talk about things. We have other people 231 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: just like you and me that share their personal eating 232 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: disorder story and that way you the proof is right there. 233 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: You are not alone. Some of your behaviors that you 234 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: think you might be the only person in the world 235 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: doing this, or that you're not trust me. So hopefully 236 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: that is something that you can add to your toolbox 237 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: that will also be helpful for you. Another podcasts that 238 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: you could check out as well that someone that specializes 239 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: in eating disorder topics is Katherine Defata. She has a 240 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: podcast called You Need Therapy, and while it's not a 241 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: replacement for therapy by any means, she often dives into 242 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: this topic as well as a lot of other therapy 243 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: type topics. But she is a therapist here in Nashville 244 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: that specializes in eating disorders. In fact, had Lisa and 245 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: I not done the Outweigh podcast, we would not have 246 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: met Cat Defata. So her podcast again is called You 247 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: Need Therapy. I'm all about any podcast, you can listen to, 248 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: any book, you can read, any Instagram account you can follow, 249 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: that's going to give you the proper encouragement that you 250 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: need to keep going. UH is worth looking into and 251 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: just keep keep it on, Like when I was doing 252 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: brainover Binge when I first ordered that book. She also 253 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: has a workbook that goes along with it. I got 254 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: the workbook. She also has a podcast, by the way, 255 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: the Brain over Binge podcast by Catherine Hansen. You can 256 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: check that out. I was listening to stuff she had 257 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: online audio things I think on her website. I was 258 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: downloading all of that and listening to it. I could 259 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: not get enough content when I was in the beginning 260 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: of my recovery, because honestly, it was that necessary to 261 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: just dig in. At the time that I started recovery, 262 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I would. I got there, But 263 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: then I was throwing myself into other unhealthy habits that 264 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: I didn't realize we're unhealthy, Like for me counting macros. 265 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: That might not be a big deal for somebody else, 266 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: they might be okay with counting macros, But because I 267 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: haven't eating disorder past, it actually ended up being really 268 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: harmful me and when I had to separate from that, 269 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: it gave me so much anxiety, and I just I 270 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: didn't even think. I didn't want to get out of 271 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: bed if I didn't know that I was going to 272 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: be able to pull up my Fitness Pal and enter 273 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: in everything that I was going to eat that day. 274 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: And so that's when I knew, Oh, this is something 275 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: that you know is quote unquote healthy, that a lot 276 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: of people are doing. But because I am someone that 277 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: is in recovery, I can't be a part of this activity. 278 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: It's triggering to me. It's bad for me. It's another 279 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: disordered behavior, so I have to not do it, still 280 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: causing me to restrict some things and not look at 281 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: food in a healthy way. So if you do get 282 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: brain over binge, you'll learn that Catherine says you have 283 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: to stay away from all diets if you're trying to recover. 284 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: But I didn't realize that tracking my macros was a 285 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: form of diet culture, like I just not presented as 286 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: a diet. UH. For me, it was, and it was 287 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: harmful for you, it may not be. All of this 288 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: is just my personal experience, and I appreciate you taking 289 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: the time to listen to UH. The velvet side of me, 290 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: or some of the velvet side of me, the softer 291 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: side of me that that now gets to open up 292 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: and and get vulnerable and use something that I've been through. 293 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: This has been very, very hard, but hopefully offer encouragement 294 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: to some of you that might be in the same place. 295 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: All Right, I'll see you all later on in the 296 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: week to share the edge here side of me, and 297 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: in the meantime you can find me at Radio Amy 298 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: on Instagram. All right, thank you, by thanks for listening 299 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: to The Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, where we 300 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: believe everyone has a little velvet and a little edge. 301 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty and relationships. 302 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.