1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Look at Our Radio is a radiophonic novela, which is 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: just a very extra way of saying a podcast. I'm 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: theos f M and I am malays. Local Radio is 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: your free, must favorite podcast hosted by us Mala and 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Theosa Where Too. I g friends turned podcast partners, breaking 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: down pop culture, feminism, sexual wellness, and offering fresh takes 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: on sending topics through nuanced interviews with up and coming 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Latin Next creatives known as Las Locals, Las Mammy Submit 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: and Bullshits next Door and Las Bores. 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I'm Diosa and I am Mala. 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: And we called an emergency, urgent recording session because it 16 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: was an eventful weekend in l A City politics and 17 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: we felt moved to come on and talk to you 18 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: all about what's been happening in l A City Council. 19 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: It's been a lot, to say the least, and one 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: of the reasons we felt like we really need to 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: get on is because the person at the center of 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: it is council Woman Mari Martinez, and we had her 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: on our show back in twenty nineteen, and since then 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: she has been re elected, she has gone on to 25 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: become a president of city council, and we wanted to 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: cover this and talk to you all about this. So 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: for our listeners in l A, y'all might already know 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: what's been going on, and to folks outside of l A, 29 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: you probably also know what's been going on, but we 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: still want to break it down for y'all and set 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: up the cont text of this breaking news. And this 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: is an ongoing emerging story. I think there are going 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: to be new details, more details every day. So the 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: l A Times and Knock l A report that a 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: year ago a secret, sort of backdoor meeting was held 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: some really high ranking Latino officials in Los Angeles. So 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: you've got Neuri Martinez, Kevin de Kevin de Leon, and 38 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Ron Edda, who is l A County's Federation of Labor President. Yeah, 39 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: and so these very powerful Latino representatives elected officials in 40 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Los Angeles had a backdoor meeting and they were recorded 41 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: saying anti black, racist, anti indigenous comments and also discussing 42 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: gerrymandering and redistricting all at once, all at once. So 43 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: what we have right now, per the Knock l A 44 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: and l A Times reporting, is an hour of leaked 45 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: audio that was posted I think anonymously to read it, 46 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: it seems uh sometime in the past year, and apparently 47 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: Mauri Martinez and others um we're working to stop the 48 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: l A Times from publishing and sharing the leaked audio. 49 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions still left unanswered. If 50 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: you check out Knock l A and The l A Times, 51 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: the full audio is available to listen. I've listened to it. 52 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: They break it down clip by clip. You can listen 53 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: to the full thing on YouTube. There is anti Armenian commentary, 54 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: really nasty anti indigenous commentary. And something that we've tried 55 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: to talk about here on Look At our Radio is 56 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: our responsibilities and privileges as a non black Latinos and 57 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: like non indigenous Latinos and like non indigenous language speakers. 58 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: And this is one of those come to Jesus wake 59 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: up moments. I think, if you are Latin x Lapine 60 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Lapina Chica, what have you and you have been engaging 61 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: in any type of social justice dialogue or content creation 62 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: on the internet for the past five years. I want 63 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: us to like stop and think about what we've been doing, 64 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: where we've been putting our energy, and if we've gotten 65 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: any work done at all. Because our highest ranking Latino 66 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: officials are engaging in white supremacists dialogue, but also with 67 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: their political actions, with their redistricting, with their policies, with 68 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: their deals. This is just one recording from one meeting. 69 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: Who knows how much more there is out there, right? 70 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: And it just raises the question too where it's like, 71 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: whoever captured this recording, like knew that there was going 72 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: to be this meeting, right or I was going to 73 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: be at a moment or this opportunity to capture this 74 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: type of dialogue, which to me says this wasn't the 75 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: first time that this happened. And so as of today 76 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: October t, Nurie Martinez has resigned as council president, but 77 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: she still a city council member, and elected officials from 78 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: Senator Alex Badia to labor unions across Los Angeles have 79 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: been asking for the resignation of all four individuals that 80 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: were caught in this recording, and so, like Mala mentioned, 81 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: this is a developing story and so when this comes out, 82 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: it's possible that more has changed and more has developed. 83 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: But this is what it is right now. Yeah, And 84 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: as has been mentioned, right, not only are the statements 85 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: captured in the audio, they're racist and classist and anti 86 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: renter and anti black and anti indigenous. Nurie Martinez marketly 87 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: also makes really racist statements about Mike Bonden's child, old, 88 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: who is black, and like uses very derogatory and pejorative 89 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: language towards a very tiny child. And folks have pointed 90 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: out nuris to work for the l A U. S D. 91 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's not good. And I don't see how 92 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: any of them are going to come out of this 93 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: like unscathed, and they shouldn't, you know, and they shouldn't, 94 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: And I just I don't see how they're going to 95 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: recover from this. No, no, And because it's not just 96 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: the words of that one recording, it's like, how many 97 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: of these meetings have they been holding, how much of 98 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: redistricting has been impacted by this little cluster specifically, how 99 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: much more is there is there going to be some 100 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: type of an investigation like this is just the very, 101 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: very very tip of the iceberg. I think, like with 102 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: anything else, with folks who are career politicians and have 103 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: just in that decades but well some of them decades 104 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: under their belt in the city of Los Angeles, like 105 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: we saw with Weza, It's like, I think that the 106 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: pit is really deep and what are we going to 107 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: find down there? Yeah, and I think too, like for 108 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: folks that are maybe like shocked or surprised by this 109 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: like really racist rhetoric, is like, well, this is actually 110 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: not uncommon in our community. And black folks, black Latinos, 111 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: indigenous folks have been telling us this four years and 112 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: years and years, right, and it's like, now what you know? Like, 113 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: what more can we say? Nothing? It's time to shut up. 114 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: It's like, shut up and pay attention. Yeah, we gotta listen. 115 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: And so clearly we're talking because we're a chat cast 116 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: and we have to talk to deliver to cover the news. 117 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: We're covering it. We're giving our insight and we have 118 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: a really important guest on today, Odelia Diego, the executive 119 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: director of CLO. My CLO. We're going to talk more 120 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: about the organization and o'delia's work before we bring her on. 121 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: But something that we do want to say is like 122 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: the City of Los Angeles is like Latino demographically. We've 123 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: sheriff Enva as a Latino. Garcti is some kind of 124 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: a Latino. The city council, these are all Latinos, as 125 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: people like as non black Latinos who speak Spanish or 126 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 1: English or have citizenship, what have you. We have got 127 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: to recognize our power politically, economically, numbers wise, we are 128 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: not like through and through the oppressed minority group that 129 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: we once were, or have imagined ourselves. To me, this 130 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: is partly why if it ever seems like I never 131 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: am down honestly, like the Spa water stuff, it's like 132 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: we got to get over ourselves a little bit. We're 133 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: imagining oppression where it's not existing, when this was actually 134 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: happening all this time with our folks who were related 135 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: to who look like us and have our last names 136 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: and speak our language, are making horrifying decisions at the 137 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: highest levels. That's where we need to be focusing out. 138 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: That's the real ship that we need to be tackling. 139 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Right enough, with the brownie lips, who gives a ship 140 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: right it's lip liner, right, this is going on. This 141 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: is where we need to be focusing. Yeah, and I 142 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: think like this, there have been so many instances, but 143 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: this is obviously the current most recent one where it's 144 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: like Latinos get a little bit of power and they 145 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: quickly act like the oppressor, quickly want to like wield 146 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: and hoard all the power. And it's like, it's no, 147 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: it's not, it's not good, it's not We should be coalescing. 148 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: We should be coalition building with our black community in 149 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, very like large indigenous community here in Los Angeles. 150 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Like that's what we need to be doing, is like 151 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: the coalition building instead of the little like empowerment, the 152 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: empowerment stuff. You know, that's important too, but we also 153 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: need to be doing more. Yes, I tweeted out this 154 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: phrase the other day because it came to mind even 155 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: before all this stuff happened. But the ching on an 156 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: industrial complex, which this is a real fucking thing that 157 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: we need to be talking about. I think this is 158 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: part and Parcel I agree because it's like the identity 159 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: politics can only get you so far, and representation can 160 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: only get you so far. Like Neuri, we were excited 161 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: when Marie Martinez, you know, was what became, was appointed 162 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: the president of city council. She's the first Latina in 163 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: the history. We were like, that's amazing, right, this was 164 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago now and then now for 165 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: it to be this, like the representation is not enough 166 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: when this is what we're getting, right, It cannot be 167 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: on name alone, on Spanish surname alone, on similarity, it's 168 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: that's not enough and non black Latinos, non Indigenous Latinos. 169 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: I think we also need to take a step back 170 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: from attempting to speak on behalf of or four black 171 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: and indigenous people because it's giving beige savior and I 172 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: see so much of it just in general and online, 173 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: and I think there's this maybe attempt or desire to 174 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: for ally ship, but it comes off of speaking over 175 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: and speaking on behalf of and white saviorism. So again, 176 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: like I think that collectively we need to humble ourselves 177 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: and be quiet and learn some things. And remember all 178 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: those Lapino l ap D officers and Border patrol agents 179 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: all have Latino family and they are young people, you know, 180 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: like we're complicit in these things in very direct ways. 181 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: So it's like we got to take care of what's 182 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: happening at home first, literally before we ordain ourselves like 183 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: social justice warriors, because actually clearly we're not. We don't 184 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: have it together enough to do that. Because it's like 185 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: the passing jokes, the passing comments like that happened at 186 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the family parties, happen at the dinner table, have real 187 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: life consequences. And this is like what we're seeing at 188 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: a macro level. And what we can do is on 189 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: the micro level within our own little sys ecosy stems, right, 190 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: and so paying attention to that is really important. Addressing 191 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: that is really important. Yea. And again, like I think 192 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: over the past few years, there's been a lot of 193 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: like this anti intellectualism kind of rhetoric going on. There's 194 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: also been a lot of like anti voting and like 195 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: anti civic engagement. Clearly, we need to be showing up 196 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: and giving public comment. Clearly we need to be participating 197 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: in civic life and in voting and in elections, because 198 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: look at what's happening. If we're not participating, we've also 199 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: allowed it to fester. Alright, look on what is we 200 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: have today, very special guest Odelia Romero, executive director of CLO, 201 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: We want to thank you, Adelia for taking the time 202 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: to chat with us today and for our listeners at 203 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: home who maybe are not based on the West Coast 204 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: and didn't get a chance to tune in to your 205 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: press conference this morning. We would love if you could 206 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about this 207 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: morning's press conference what you all talked about. Because this 208 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: episode is going to be evergreen. It's going to live 209 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: on the RSS feed forever, so folks can come back 210 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: and tune in and catch up. We've already updated our 211 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: listeners were talking about the leaked audio with anti black, 212 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: anti indigenous classes statements Byinary Martinez and others. So Delia, Yes, welcome, 213 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: and if you could introduce yourself for our listeners. Um. Hi, 214 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: my name is Olivia Romeddo. I am the executive director 215 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: UH Indias. We are humans organization that advocates for Nijinous 216 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: people's right. We are located in south central uh Los 217 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Angeles and I am a supported woman or befoga, which 218 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: is how we say it in in in my language UH. 219 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: And I've lived here for the last forty years, forty 220 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: one years and uh Ciello is a nonprofit whose work 221 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: is geared towards ending gender based violence, providing language access rights, 222 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: cultural preservation, and reproductive justice. And uh you all this 223 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: morning hosted a press conference and spoke about what's been 224 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: going on in the news with Mari Martinez with the 225 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: statements that were made. Can you tell us about the 226 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: press conference and what was discussed. Well, we we wanted 227 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: to denounced these racists, uh, attitudes by our Latin A relatives. Right, 228 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the comments that were made about indigenous people. How about 229 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: direct impact in our daily lives, how we're treated in 230 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: a hospital, in a court of law, in the supermarket. 231 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: You know those words, inciting violence, inciting hate against indigenous 232 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: black people. Um, we needed to take actions. We we 233 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: needed to go to city Hall and say we are 234 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: here as indigenous people. These comments are unacceptable and you 235 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: need to resign. You need to resign because you cannot 236 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: represent Angelinas with this type of racist attitudes, especially because 237 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: you have so much power. You decide where we're gonna live, 238 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: what services is gonna be in our area. So if 239 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: you have this hate against indigenous people, against black people, 240 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: against the LGBT community, then of course you're not gonna 241 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: assign anything to this community. You're not gonna care for 242 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: this going to community, you know, so we needed to 243 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: be there and call them out. Absolutely. It also seems 244 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: like a really important time to acknowledge that this is 245 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: not new, this rhetoric, this language that maybe non native, 246 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: non black people may act surprise used that these attitudes 247 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: are held. But I feel like Indigenous communities and activists 248 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: have made it very clear that this is a problem. 249 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: There's anti indigenai in our communities, and so I'm wondering 250 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: if you can just speak to like the history of 251 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: your organization and even why you all exist because language, 252 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: violence and anti indigenate in general. I'm surprised that people 253 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: are surprised. Um, I wasn't surprised by the comments because 254 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: we run a human rights organization. Therefore we get these codes. 255 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I need someone that speaks will hackn you know, I 256 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: need someone that speaks Mayan. And which Mayan language would 257 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: you like? Well, you know, any Mayan language, the one 258 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: that speaks the most. Oh oh well, I'll get stopped 259 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: on the streets like are you Indian? Oh you're repeally 260 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: so interesting? Are you all howking? Uh? You know, we 261 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: get all these comments on a daily basis, so I'm 262 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: not surprised, and it's something that we're calling in our 263 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: Latin a real tips to say, hey, let's have this conversation. 264 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: Let me that is very dangerous and how you put 265 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: us all in one lump and assuming that everybody from 266 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: south of the imposed border speak Spanish, right, it becomes 267 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: very dangerous because it has a direct impact on our 268 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: daily lives. Say I go to a hospital, I do 269 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: not speak Spanish, I do not speak English. There's an 270 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: assumption that I'm Latina. You know, then immediately they would 271 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: give me a Spanish interpreter. They will not provide me 272 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: an interpreter in my language. I will make a decision 273 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: that will possibly cost my life or not an informed decision. 274 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: And you know, we we lost a gentleman I too 275 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: long ago because he didn't speak Spanish. Um he went 276 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: for a hip replacement. They did not give him an interpreter. 277 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: And they they're like he praised in Spanish? Was he 278 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: and colonization did a great job and imposing the religion 279 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: on us. So sure he race, but that doesn't mean 280 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: he understands why he's praying. Right, So they told them 281 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: after the surgery to move so he wouldn't get blood clots. Well, 282 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: he didn't follow instructions. Obviously, he ended up losing his 283 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: leg and then they applicated his leg and afterwards, you know, 284 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: they he went home and die of sad because suddenly 285 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: you're like you going to hell. You come up with 286 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: a leg amputated and before you know it, like you know, 287 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: you lost your No, you're not understanding what just had happened. 288 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: So that's why we say that like Latin that is 289 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: dangerous figuratively but also physically. And I could go on 290 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: all night and all days to tell you that the 291 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: different stories that we have to interpret or we have 292 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: to advocate for indigenous people, So we're really calling all 293 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: our relatives and to say like, hey, your your struggle 294 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: is very important. You're you want um to change the 295 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: narrative of how Latinos are viewed. That is important, and 296 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: we or that. But within your movement and as you 297 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: do this work, you cannot erase our existence. We cannot 298 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: become your collateral damage, you know, as indigenous people or 299 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: as black people from Latin America. Thank you so much 300 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: for giving that perspective. Can you talk more about Latin 301 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: it Dad as a part of the colonial project From 302 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: what I see well. I mean what we say in 303 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: in in in our communities is uh, it hasn't a 304 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Colonialism has not stopped. It has has taken a different 305 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: shape and form, but it has not ended. It never stopped. 306 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: And we could see the legacy of colonialism in NW 307 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: these words, in these elected officials words. We've been hearing 308 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: this for years. You know, there's jokes in Mexico like 309 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: naias Indio or in the agriculture field like something, if 310 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: you're short, you're automatically ugly, you're like de humanizing indigenous 311 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: people so that colonial projects continue. It never stopped, and 312 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: we feel it every day in every place. So Latina 313 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: needs to let's be allies. You know, indigenous people were 314 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: eight We have eighty percent of the natural resources and 315 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: we only make ten percent of the population according to 316 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: the u N. Right, so we need to join forces 317 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: in order to have water, in order to have air 318 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: because the way we're going, I mean right now, we're 319 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: a target as indigenous people because of the natural resources. 320 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: People always that we're poor, but no, we are very 321 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: rich in natural resources, and that is one of the 322 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: roots of our displacement where we come here. You know, 323 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: people need to know, like this colonial project causes displacement, 324 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and nobody lives home and crosses the border, gets in 325 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: the trailer to to find out if they're gonna die 326 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: or not. Right you of home because we're being pushed out. Absolutely. 327 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: And one of the statements that Nuri made that came 328 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: out in this leaked recording was this comment about quote 329 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: not knowing what villages people came from in Koreatown. And 330 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: I thought that that was almost like this symbol of 331 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: like Latin x Latin, a ignorance about indigenous communities in 332 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and just how strong the indigenous communities are 333 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: here and how many. I was hoping maybe you could 334 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: also speak to who are our indigenous communities here in Koreatown. 335 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: We have our Wahakan community, we have suppled that communities, 336 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: and if you could just give us a little bit 337 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: more insight for our listeners again, who maybe are not 338 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: from California. Well, displacement, um of indigenous people, it's all 339 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: over the country for all your audience. UM, you know, 340 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: indigenous people from Wahaka, from Mexico, from what Themala, from 341 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: Miguel or we're all over the United States in the 342 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: case of Los Angeles. UM see a lot created a 343 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: map called we are here because you know, they always 344 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: talk about us about I think of the past. Oh, 345 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: they used to drink a coo, they used to drink mescal, 346 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: they used to do this and this, but they never 347 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: talk about us in the present tense like we continue 348 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: to do that. So we created a map during the pandemic. 349 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: We identify that there's seventeen indigenous language family is spoken 350 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: here um, which is um, Sapoteco, Mika. If you all 351 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: have tacos, stop by at your favorite takeo and that's 352 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: what language they speak Frommalachinanteco and multiple variants of Sapoteco 353 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: are there is not exact numbers how many indigenous people 354 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: from Mexico or from Whatatemala are here because we get 355 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: lumped into the label of Latinos, right, so we have 356 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: to create our own our own senses. But in Korea 357 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: Town specifically, there is a large part relation of Tapo 358 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: tech and a lot of um Mayan's so um these 359 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: comments Um, Like I said, I'm not surprised, but Korea 360 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: Town is vibrant with indigenous culture. There are so many 361 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: languages spoken in Korea Town. There's so much contribution culturally, politically, 362 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: because I guess what we vote to at least my community. 363 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: We have been here for over sixty years, and we vote, 364 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: we participate. But also um in the food industry, from 365 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: who plants in in the agricultural fields of California to 366 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: who who picks, who packages, who distributes, who cooks, prepares 367 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: and serves, there are Indigenous people. We are women into 368 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: this l A City, l A County. You know, everywhere 369 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: you go, you could be from a tackle standard the 370 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: corner to the five star strongto a mitchell In start 371 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: here in l A County, there is an Indigenous person 372 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: serving you. And I know for a fact that I'm 373 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: sure that these politicians have been served by Indigenous people 374 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: to fail to recognize our existence, our contribution. So we 375 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: are women in in in this community. We're also Angelinos. 376 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: We speak our language. There's over forty brass bands in 377 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: l A County that are Indigenous, their hometown associations. I 378 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: mean there's a whole world under l A County that 379 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. Like I it's like 380 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: we have to wear our our costumes right, Like we're 381 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna go outside the house and then I guess we're 382 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna be Latinos, Mexicanos, whatever they want to label us. 383 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: But when we're together, we are bender Frohones, penderfugos. You know, 384 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: benea yea, where we speak our language, where we wear 385 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: our our traditional regalia, where we have our traditional food, 386 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, where we drink our chocolate. There's no such 387 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: things as you know. I hear a lot of people. Oh, 388 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: they used to do this with kao. No, we don't 389 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: used to do it. We do things with kao. You know, 390 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: they used to drink my cattle. They they always like, 391 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: we're here and they did people and that public servants. 392 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: They need to know that we are here and we 393 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: to contribute to the economy. I always say, we contribute 394 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: to the economy of this country, and our country is 395 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: back home with our multi lingual veins. But you know 396 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: something I was thinking when she says like I don't 397 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: know where the ligious they come from. We know where 398 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: we come from, you know, I know or my grandma, 399 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: my grandpa, my grandparents, what language they spoke. I still 400 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: have my indigenous last name. Like, I'm wondering where she 401 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: fa that she does not know the city that she serves. 402 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: That's an excellent point. Yeah, and I I think it's 403 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: really important, really important question to ask is she truly 404 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: actually ignorant to the constituents and residents that comprise the 405 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles that she's supposed to serve, especially 406 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: as president are formally president of city Council. We also 407 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: wanted to put out there that, as look at thought 408 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: our radio, we're going to be making a donation of 409 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty dollars to CLAW, and we want 410 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: to encourage and invite all of our listeners to match 411 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: our donation to contribute to the work that is being 412 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: done at CLAW and Odeliat. Tonight, you've mentioned ally ship 413 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: and advocacy, So for our listeners at home who are 414 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: young people who are learning about these issues or who 415 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: are impacted by these issues because they are indigenous as well, 416 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: what advice do you have moving forward as far as 417 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: working together ally ship and like fixing this coaligion building. 418 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: One thing that we we could be sisters, um and 419 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: relatives is like be that uncomfortable person that you're Christmas 420 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: party dinner when somebody makes a comment about be that 421 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: uncomfortable person and take that moment to reinform and educate 422 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: those family members because we all have them, right, But also, 423 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: how do you within your movement that is so important 424 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: you don't erase the existence of indigenous people? How um? 425 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: I always say like, hey, we're already like really squestioned 426 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: in a car, so one more person can fit. You 427 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: don't have to give up your space. But you could say, hey, sister, 428 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: come over, and you know, really push and change the 429 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: narrative that we are a thing of the past, that 430 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: we are present today. We are here and we are 431 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: part of the city. We are part of this country, 432 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: and we have been here for thousands of years. Right, 433 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: let's change the narrative about this is a country of immigrants, 434 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: of Latino immigrants. Know, this is a country of people 435 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: that continue to even their land. I always say like, 436 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: if you're not La Kota, if you're not Chickasaw, if 437 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: you're not Tongby, if you're not Navajo, you have a 438 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: migration story because our relative, our Native American relatives continue 439 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: to live here. But in our discourse we erase them 440 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: and say, hey, they used to be, but guess what, 441 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: We're still here. And I think when when we have 442 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: this conversation, they start at home. So let's start at home. 443 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: And in these spaces you know exactly. This is a 444 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: good example of how you become an ally. You're sharing 445 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: your platform, share the work of indigenous organizations, share with 446 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: a good intention to right, because um. The other thing 447 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: is like I don't want to be that token or 448 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: being um sort of for b I can't think of 449 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: this word in English, but to be like the full 450 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: clorical of the group, right, but no, like, let's be 451 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: in real ally ship. I'm sure this isn't easy to 452 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: hear about the impacts of Latinidad the right because your 453 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: too are struggling. But if we have this open conversation, 454 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: I think we could do a lot of things together 455 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, it's system that 456 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: what we're fighting is a system. That system that oppresses you, 457 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: oppresses myself as as an indigenous woman. But hey, Latina relatives, 458 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: you cannot be that person to continue dis oppression to 459 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: other people of color, right, absolutely, yes, thank you so much, Alilia. 460 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: This has been very impactful, and just thank you for 461 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: sharing your time and your space with us. We know 462 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: it's been a really hectic, heavy couple of days, so 463 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: we thank you for being here. And just on a 464 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: final closing note, if you can share with our listeners 465 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: where they can follow you and support you and follow 466 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Ciello and support the work. Okay, well, thank you ladies. 467 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Um you can follow us my Ciello underscored dot org 468 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: on Instagram and um um just a Dila rometo on 469 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Instagram and every social media um um. But for Ciello 470 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: is my Ciello underscore dot org. Allay, thank you so much, 471 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 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