1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Okay, podcast starts now. Podcast starts now. Welcome um all 2 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: of the globe. To welcome all of the globe. You know, 3 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: often people welcome part of the globe. They'll say, hey, 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Western hemisphere, what's popping? And I've always found it to 5 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: be so offensive because what about that other hemisphere? Exactly 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: exactly what do they say? Which one do they welcome? 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: The Western hemispo Western? Yes, I always I have a 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: T shirt that says, what about the Eastern hemisphere? Well, 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: mine is a littless specific. I say what about the 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: other one? Because you know, I hear Western hemisphere, I'm like, well, 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: how many others are there? And I actually don't really 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: like label. I have a shirt that says, uh, remember 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: both hemispheres. In my shirt says remember hemispheres in general. 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: I'm not going to put a label on how many 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: there are, because Lord knows, there could be some hemispheres 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: that I don't know about. That's right, you know, the 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: smartest person knows that they don't know how many hemispheres 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: there are. The ultimate binary really is the Eastern versus 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Western hemisphere. And people don't talk about how it's a spectrum, 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: no country, and it's the same with time zones. You know, 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: we it's a very um it is a very math 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: focused model, and I think there are so many different 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: ways we could divide up the globe. I mean, if 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: you think about it's so an imaginative to divide it 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: based on based on time, based on location, when it 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: could just be like part of the globe is pink 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: and part of it is purple and part of it 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: is orange. You know, this is something I thought about 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot, and I've been talked about this on stage. 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: You know, one time I went to Chile, and you 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of people think that when you go 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: across the globe, that's over. But actually you can go 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: across the globe down, and nobody talks about that. And 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, people try to erase sort of my travel experience. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: They said, oh, you didn't go to the other side 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: of the world, because you know, you didn't go to dark, 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: say China, And I said, well, actually it is the 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: other side of the world, just a different other side 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: of the world. So you need to open up your 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: mind and realize you can go across the world down exactly. 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: And there's a prejudice and I think this is what 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: you're you know, This is exactly what you're talking about. 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: There's people care more about the X axis than the 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Y axis. It's disgusting the favoritism. The favoritism, especially with 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: regards to travel. Like you can literally go from the 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: North Pole to the South Pole and people will be like, oh, 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: so you're in the same time zone. They're like, okay, cool, 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: so you like poles. It's like, no means nothing to people. Oh, 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: It's disgusting. And and it's it's as intense on the body. 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: You're still sitting on a plane for a long time, right, 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean it is. You know, the weather changes more 52 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: if you go up, and I mean you notice actually 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: more of a difference if you go up and down. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, in many ways, it feels it's harder on 55 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: the body, right, And and you know, I started out 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: this conversation thinking, you know, we're all equal, X access 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: is just as good as Y axis. Now I'm coming 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: out the other end of it, and I'm actually saying 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: the Y axis is better. Well. And that's just because, like, 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: because the X axis gets so much attention, like it's 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: on us to sort of like lift the y axcess up. 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe we do have to say it 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: is better so that people start paying attention to it. 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: But it's better, it's better, And I think, um a 65 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: lot of the proceeds from our podcast going towards raising 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: awareness for the Y axis and the way it, you know, 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: affects the world. Yeah, I've I can't believe our society. God, 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: we should have quit while we were ahead. I don't 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: know my that that. I thought it would be funny 70 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: to do a raising awareness joke, but then it's like, 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: what are you actually raising awareness of? And and then 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it gets too real when people are 73 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: actually raising money for real things. I mean, it's such 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: a fine line with these with these jokes, and it's 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: a line I always crossed in the worst possible and 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's not your fault. It's like hard like 77 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: we're all looking once you feel that riff peak, You're 78 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: we're all looking for, you know, where to hop to next? 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: We think exactly obviously is in the end, but sometimes 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: you're just free falling and they're exactly what else to go? 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I think what I was doing is even though I 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: was defending the Y axis, I had an excess X 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: axis mentality. I said, I want to go forward rather 84 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: than up and down? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, 85 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: there are depths to explore, and you were just saying like, well, 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: I want to go over And many would argue that 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: depth is the Z axis, but I don't recognize that 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: as a valid one for me. The Y axis is 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: both height and depth, and the X axis is with 90 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the Z axis is like it's a hat 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: on a hat like. Okay, but now is the Z 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: axis actually the most oppressed access of all? Even we 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: aren't right, here's what I'm thinking. Okay, it's coming to 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: me we as white gay men is the most pressed 95 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: and we're erasing completely the Z axis. Okay, But to 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: be fair, like the Z axis is like, how are 97 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: we gonna like when someone's like I'm traveling, you can't 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: travel the Z axis. You can't like go through the 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: planet like just on a practical level. Wait, okay, counterpoint No, yes, 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: First of all, you're only thinking in terms of going 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: into the planet. Do you know what else is going 102 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: through the Z axis? Going into space, which you can 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: do and people have done, of all genders and sexualities, 104 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: I mean, have all genders and the sexualities gone into space? 105 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: If you are a lesbian who has gone into. Please 106 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: email us at stradio lab dot com and tell us 107 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: about your experience. I mean, has there been like a 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Kinsey one in space who was like like it was like, 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm mostly straight, but I'll off Okay. The Z axis 110 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: is the Kinsey one of axes in that it's like 111 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: so rare, like the the Kinsey one, straight leaning male okay. 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Is the z axis sexuality and the Kinsey scale is 113 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: three dimensional okay and okay. So then the X axis 114 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: is um straight and sort of the traditional nuclear family yea. 115 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: And the y axis is a white gay man yes. 116 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: And also the X axis is sexuality, the y axis 117 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: is gender identity, and the Z axis is uh general vibe. Wow, 118 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Well the vibes are on, I would say, the vibes 119 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: are on. I will say, you know, we went into 120 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: this some recording and I said we didn't have anything 121 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: to talk about night, and I had a light bulb moment. 122 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: I said, oh right, I wanted to talk about my 123 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: new lesbian trainer, And now here we are. Do those 124 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: categories even exist anymore? No, not anymore. The idea that 125 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I would talk about my lesbian trainer. I even had 126 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: a joke prepared. It's like she's training me to be 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: a lesbian, but like that's why she's a lesbian. But 128 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: it's like that joke to me is not even on 129 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: the Y or X axis. It's like right at the center. Well, okay, 130 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: it's a little X, it's a little x. I it's 131 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of the pickle we often 132 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: find ourselves in where when we have sort of nothing 133 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: to talk about and we actually stretch that out for 134 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: ten ish minutes. Yes, it sort of turns into something beautiful. 135 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: I really enjoy when we have nothing to talk about, 136 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: But then it turns into okay, well, actually there was 137 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: something I wanted to randomly talk about, and it's like, well, 138 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: good luck, it's not gonna make any sense now it's not, 139 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: and and you know what I don't want, Like I 140 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: think ultimately, all I wanted to do is mention that 141 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: I have a lesbian trainer, and that is representation and 142 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: that is huge, and that's all. Well, this idea I 143 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: had it in my head like I would mention and 144 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: then it would blossom into this whole thing. And why 145 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: not just let it be what it is. You have 146 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: a lesbian trainer, Let the world know you have them. 147 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Let it out. Okay, should we just like, what do 148 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: you think? Should we just bring in our guest? I 149 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: mean I think now is the best time to do that. 150 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Wait before we do, if each if I me, of you, 151 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: me and our guest, who is the X axis, who 152 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: is the Y axis? And who is the Z axis? Um? Well, 153 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: not to be a complete and utter bitch, but I'm 154 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: worried we don't have a Z axis. Okay, see my Okay, 155 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: in the most basic terms, I think it would make 156 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: sense if you or I were if you and I together, 157 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: one of us was excellent, was of us was why? 158 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: So that's set the stage for what's going on. And 159 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: then each guest we brought in was a z and 160 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: that kind of brought the brought the podcast to life. 161 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: Sure that makes sense to me. I mean that makes 162 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: sense in theory, but in practice I fear that, well, 163 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: none of this is, none of us applicable to the 164 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: real world. George, You're getting so defensive it's scaring me. No, 165 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: but this is like, see, this is my you know, 166 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: as you know, both my parents are engineers, so I 167 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: grew up around axes, and uh, what you have to 168 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: understand is all of this is theoretical and it can't 169 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: like you can't. Actually, numbers don't really exist, decimal points 170 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: are fake. All of that is for the sake of 171 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: doing equations. George, you cannot tell me to apply a 172 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: theory to the practice of the people in this zoom 173 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: and then tell me it's all theory and it's not 174 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: actiable in practice. You just can't have it both ways. 175 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: Do you think theory or practice is No, this is 176 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: like a parody of the Stradio episode. Okay, fine, we'll 177 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: talk more about theory and practice the next episode. In 178 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: theory we have because because you guessed it, I have thought, Um, well, uh, 179 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: let's just you know what, let's welcome our guest. Let's 180 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: just welcome our guests because if we don't, we never will. 181 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: And the grand tradition of Stradier lab, we're not going 182 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: to say any of his credits. Oh god, no, that 183 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: would be that would be actually embarrassing to him. Yeah. 184 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: Um please, um, welcome to the Mike, Josh gandam In Hey, 185 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: thank you. Um, this is it. It's such a pleasure 186 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: to join you here. May I start off with a 187 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: yes spin off Queer Linear Geometry podcast Axes to Grinder. Wow, 188 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: and that's why he has credits that we don't. And 189 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: it's it's so funny because it's now you're like, where 190 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: can I see this guy? We're not going to tell you. 191 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell I don't no, no, no 192 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: no no, you're now yes, you're living in the now. 193 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: You're doing this podcast in secret. Everyone, um uh, kind 194 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: of advise you against it, I do want to say, 195 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: And I was thinking this and that now this is 196 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: going to feel so down to earth compared to everything 197 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: we've been talking about. But I was thinking Sam, like, 198 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: in terms of past straight guests, it's been Ike was 199 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: our first straight guest. Sure, then Nick was going to 200 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: be our second straight guest. But he revealed that he's 201 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: a kinsey one and has in fact made out with you. Yeah, 202 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: he revealed that, So I think this might be her 203 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: second real straight guy. Guess well, you can still say 204 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: Nick is a real straight guy. That's how he mostly identifies. Well, 205 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: I think I do think the word real. You're right 206 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: that it is. There's no way to not make a 207 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: defensive when you When I point to someone and I say, 208 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: are you a real one? That can never be good? 209 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: You know, that can never lead to something that is 210 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: productive or conducive to social justice. I feel like it 211 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: only really can only be applied affectionately and encouragingly in retrospect. 212 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Is in like r I P to a real one, 213 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: Like you only don't recognize reality until it's no longer there. Well, 214 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: but but but what if I said R I P 215 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: two finally a real straight man? Then that's offensive? Oh yeah, 216 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: definitely offensive. Okay, I'm writing down to Actually when everyone's 217 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: dad says about when John Wayne died, Yeah, no, it 218 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: is to find a way to make someone's death about 219 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: kind of the death of masculinity is a very dad thing. Yeah, 220 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: that's dark. Like they don't make them like that anymore. 221 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Every anytime someone says that, you're like expand on that. Okay, 222 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: well there's a straight guy who died. Yeah, there's a 223 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: straight up Yeah exactly. Um oh my goodness, Well Josh, 224 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: first of all, how's it going? Imagine if I said terrific, 225 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean one of this. I do think this has 226 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: become one of our signatures is creating a u an 227 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: environment that is so non conducive to normal conversation, and 228 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: then just when our guests feels so alienated, giving them 229 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: such a straightforward question that they're so thrown they're more 230 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: thrown off than if we were literally to be like, 231 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: if the z axis was an animal, what would its 232 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: gender identity be? You know? And I would be prepared 233 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: to consider that. But when you said how are you, 234 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: it's like, what is he driving? It's like you're you're 235 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: the math lady meme, You're like, it doesn't add up 236 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: for sure. I'm okay, I've um, you know, I feel 237 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: very fortunate to be uh, to be home and working 238 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: from home. And but I'm not gonna stay on what 239 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: and not because I can't, not because it's like a 240 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: big job business project. Is because I refused to let 241 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: your listeners know where to find me, um, as we 242 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: discussed and then and it's with my my wife and 243 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: dog and we have a very tranquil and and loving 244 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: domestic existence here. Yes, And speaking of your wife, I 245 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: want sorry, well I did I did? I want to 246 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: just quickly mention you know, um, Josh, your wife recently 247 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: in in her podcast, interviewed award winning writer George Saunders, 248 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: and you said, I'll do you one better. I'm going 249 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: to go on the podcast Radio Lab, hosted by George 250 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: de bars to the Sam Tagger. Look, we all have 251 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: Georges in our lives. She's so she's so jealous. I mean, 252 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: can you imagine she really thought, she was like, this 253 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: is really I'm going to have the upper hand now 254 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: for at least a few months. He already had his 255 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: MacArthur grant. Yours is still on the horizon. Although you know, 256 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: listeners of the podcast will know that Sam, and this 257 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: is something I was established. We did win the first 258 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: and only ever Presidential Medal of Freedom for podcasting, and 259 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: we got the award during the same ceremony as Ellen. 260 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: And the reason it wasn't reported because she cried in 261 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: such an ugly, disgusting way that then people only reported 262 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: on Ellen getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Yeah, it's 263 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: just worting it that she would overstand you in that way. Yeah, well, 264 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: people were like, oh my god, it's so emotionally. Just know, 265 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: she was intentionally making like a really weird phase to 266 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: get press focused. She's an actor. This is what she does. Honestly, 267 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: it sounds like the worst thing I've ever heard of 268 00:15:53,800 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Ellen doing. Yeah, well, well, um, and like what our questions. 269 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: It's like like like I know, and it's like we 270 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: have such Truly, Josh is like funny people, someone I've 271 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: admired for so long, and all I want to do 272 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: is hear myself talk and it's so disgusting. I'm happy 273 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: to listen to you, to you vote talk. This is 274 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: fun about not telling people your credits and not telling 275 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: them where to find you. You know, when people are 276 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: defined by their work, I say, remove yourself from this, 277 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: like you're so capitalist, Like who are you as an artist? 278 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Like as a person? You right? You want in order 279 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: to find me being a devoted son to my parents? Yeah, 280 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: you want to know where to find me watching the 281 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: sun set over the exactly a lot of sun related things, 282 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot, yes, all types of sun And you said, 283 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, back when we all used to do stand 284 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: up Josh, you would say when people would ask you 285 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: for your credit, you say devoted sun, voted son, but 286 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: spell it, say it like it's spelled s u. M Um. 287 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: Remember when stand up um, Like when you don't have 288 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: any credits and you have to like they're like, do 289 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: you have a credit, And you have to say, like 290 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: one of the most embarrassing things you've ever done, because 291 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: they're telling you you have to just just say favorite 292 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: around here, and they're like, well that's not true. Oh 293 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: my god, like those like failed like webs or you've 294 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: seen him all over you've seen him. There are two 295 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: things that are my favorite. When is you've seen him 296 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: all over the city or whatever. And the second is 297 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: you give a credit that's literally like you know, the 298 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: what Houston Comedy Festival and the person says you've seen 299 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: him at the Houston Comedy Festival. Absolutely not if they 300 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: had the coincidence of a lifetime. Coincidence of a lifetime yes. 301 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: I never understood what, like why they feel the need 302 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: to do that. It's like just tell them, you're gonna 303 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: like them this need to Like they're not like children 304 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: that show you from something. It's not a job interview. 305 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: I recently learned something that I thought, I truly thought 306 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: found very inspiring and I it's a it's a kind 307 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: of energy I want to channel, which is that Cape Berland, 308 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: before she had any credits, would tell people she was 309 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: on Nurse Jackie. So then the host would be like, 310 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: you've seen her on Nurse Jackie. Cape Berland's so funny. 311 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: Gary Gullman has a bit I think about lying like 312 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: being on an airplane and telling someone he was on 313 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: an episode of Jag and which and then they go 314 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: and watch every episode of Jack to try to spot him, 315 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: or they're just like, oh, I probably saw that one, 316 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: which is so funny. I feel like it's like the 317 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: similar energy to that. Yeah, no, and and and Jag 318 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: and Nurse Jackie. It's like the perfect Nurse jack is 319 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: the perfect thing where you're like, yeah, sure, right, like 320 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: you're not Nobody's going to be like fuck you. I've 321 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: seen second, I've seen every frame of Nurse Jackie. And 322 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: if you were in a single moment of Nurse Jackie, 323 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: I will eat my hat Nurse What if they like 324 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: reboot Nurse Jackie the most forgotten and I love eat 325 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: but talk about a show that has been lost to history. 326 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: If they came back and they were like, you asked 327 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: for it, we're rebooting Nurse jack One. Oh, I shouldn't 328 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: make fun of I shouldn't make fun of Nurse jack either, 329 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna say why why I shouldn't make 330 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: fun of Nurse Jackie or this other show. But when 331 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: they announced like two months ago that Dexter was coming back, 332 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: and every single person went like like a very fun 333 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: moment to me, I Dexter, that was like right before 334 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: real Prestige TV. They're like, oh, this is like really good, 335 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: and then real good shows came out and it was like, oh, 336 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: never mind, it's like right because it's like that everyone's 337 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: trying to do the Sopranos right, which is like the 338 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: kind of original premium cable Prestige TV. And they were like, 339 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: what made it good? A main character, it kills a 340 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: bunch of people. No, And it's like it is just 341 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: like tone over everything. It's like aesthetics over everything. There 342 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: were so many shows like that that, um, it was 343 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: just like really darkly lit. And then the dialogue was 344 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: written by truly people that were writing for Law and 345 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: Order s VU for sure. Remember the fucking how much 346 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: you talked about as dark Passenger and it was like 347 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: this is not interesting, this is wait, who's dark passenger? Dexter, 348 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: that was like passenger, Like I need to like kill 349 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: that's my dark Passenger. That's like it was like a 350 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: metaphor for like, yeah, you know what, this is something 351 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people are afraid to say. I think 352 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: the one of the best parts of Prestige TV was 353 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: literally just the promotional materials for those shows like I 354 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: this promotion for like Niptuck and Dexter, the way they 355 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: like stylize the corpses and like it was always something 356 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: so like for Niptuck it would be like a lifeless 357 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: body that was like stitched together. I mean obviously very 358 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: incredibly misogronists and whatever else, but purely aesthetically speaking, I 359 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: just be like the promotional materials. And I remember for 360 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: six ft under two, like it was like you know, 361 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: you would it was like a family standing on grasp 362 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: but then you would see like the X ray vision 363 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: of like the Grave. I didn't even need this show. 364 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: When I saw this, I close my eyes imagine six seasons. 365 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: The when they do promotional materials in today's time, it 366 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: feels very dark, like when like the RuPaul's Drag Race, 367 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: people like sending like people like big boxes of like 368 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: good ease to like from the show. It's like, I 369 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: know that you're trying to be fun, but in like 370 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic and multiple crises, this 371 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: looks really bad. I know. But can I say one 372 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: more thing? As someone who doesn't get promotional materials, I 373 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: am dating someone who is a journalist has covered various 374 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: parts of um media and culture. I just mean like 375 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: he is now grandfathered into so many of these pressless 376 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: and every single day he has a new something or 377 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: other that has arrived, and it's just like I got 378 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: another ostrich egg. I don't know where I'm gonna put 379 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: it when it's hatched. And as much as I don't 380 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: want to be jealous, it makes me so jealous. It's 381 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: nice to get male that you don't know what's in it. 382 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: M m exactly. I think that's why when people say 383 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: to anthraags it's so intriguing. I know, why don't any 384 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: of these shows promote themselves by sending anthreax talking would 385 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: get lips of flapping. Okay, here's how do you do it. 386 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: You put out like like if you say about like 387 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: five hundred gifts and then like ten of them are tracks, 388 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: I'll do what you You send the right person a 389 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: white powder that's not anthrax. People are going to find out, 390 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: right exactly, this is a good way to to promote 391 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: something like let's say the mask singer, like something that 392 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: has an intrigue element to it. It's like, send everyone masks. 393 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: One of them is filled with bees. Yeah, you know, 394 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: nobody sends anybody anthrax anymore. It's a lost art. I mean, 395 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't want people to do that to me, and 396 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: I it feels me with fear when I read about 397 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: it happening, But like fear is a powerful feeling and 398 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: it's not. It's a much more powerful feeling than I've 399 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: ever felt about The Masked Singer generally exactly what not 400 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: to bring Trump into it. But as we've learned, we 401 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: live in an affect based culture where it's more about 402 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: feelings than um, you know, logical facts. So if you 403 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: can just get a few people deathly afraid or even 404 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: close to death literally, that would do much more to 405 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: promote a show like The Mass Singer than being like 406 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: these are our ratings. Yeah, and you told me if 407 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: you were like Nick Cannon, host of The Masked Singer, 408 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: is he was? He? I think that he got talent 409 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: for a while, But I think he's a mass singer 410 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: because I was recently watching it, okay on Thanksgiving and 411 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: I didn't talk anyway, I think he is anyway, the 412 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: next mass singer, whether it's Nick Cannon or Tomber you're 413 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: on or you show U named that tune, but go on, 414 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: it could be anymore. Yes, Ellen, Ellen, she's hosted things. Um, 415 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: if if he got out that, let's say Nick Cannon 416 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: was sending envelopes full of unidentified white powder just randomly 417 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: throughout the country, people would not stop talking about a 418 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: mess singer. Yes, So maybe the solution is not actually 419 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: setting anthrax, always having an air of danger, so sending 420 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: literally just like a flower. You need one person to die. Okay, 421 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: we need one person to die. If you really only 422 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: able to talk about it, one's got to go. I 423 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: think what if you I think, I think yes, and 424 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to put a pin in that one person dying. 425 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: But I will also say I think what you could 426 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: get is a very famous person frightened of dying, and 427 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: then it would have a similar effect. Right if Mariah 428 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: Carey was like, I mean, I guess they used to 429 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: be married, So that's the wrong. That feels like it 430 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: gets into a dark territory. But like that feels like 431 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: it gets into a dark territory. We're talking about killing 432 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: people with anthrax. I'm putting a pin in that. Okay, 433 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: if you get on the still almost to have a 434 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: fear of die, just to fear. If Christina Aguilera, if 435 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: she opened and called the FBI, and there is an 436 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: investigation into the mask Singer, then that would be prestigious 437 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: enough that it would be like someone and nobody like 438 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: me dying to promote the Massinger. I think Christina Aguilera 439 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: having a near death experience screams prestige. You know, I 440 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: love Christina as the reference. I wonder if it should 441 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: be someone maybe more um news oriented, like imagine if 442 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Kate or got It um you know, someone, because I 443 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: feel like it would be like, well, she's always kind 444 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: of weird, like she's a little cookie, like someone someone 445 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: you can trust to. What a strange strange time to 446 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: refuse to Yes, Anne is the moment Josh mentions Christina Aguilera, 447 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: we have so far created the most elaborate world in 448 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: which people are sending anthrax to promote showed that are 449 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: celebrities that are dying. You're legally this is so intricate 450 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: and expressive. I'm not your legally this podcast can air 451 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: right And then you draw the line of Christina Aguilera 452 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: and if you think it should be Katie Kurry, Here's 453 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: the thing. I'm not drawing a line. I'm not saying no, 454 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying well, let's think if we're getting to the 455 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: realism of it, let's think about this for real. And 456 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: I want to say I don't blame Sam. I put 457 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: a pin in his idea of killing one person with anthrax, 458 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: and so I feel like he's putting a bit in 459 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera. Okay, fine, how about you opened it up 460 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: for all critiquing each other. Well, what's wrong with low critique? 461 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: There's a reality able to handle notes. There's a reality 462 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: show with only two contestants, and those contestants are Christina 463 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: Aguilera and Correct. And the way it works is it 464 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: is a show created to promote a different show for 465 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: the math Singer. The math Singer sends envelopes of white 466 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: powder to ten winners, and one of them that gets 467 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: the more dangerous white powder is the lucky winner, who 468 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: then chooses which one of either aguilar or Katie Kuric 469 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: should have the near death experience as part of the 470 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: promo for this. Okay, this show is called Sam. This 471 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: is this full der idea right in it's called who 472 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: do You Trust? Because both of them are very afraid, right, 473 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: Katie kirk and Christy Regulara, They're both like um afraid 474 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: when they open up the package. But it's like whose 475 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: fear is real? Right? Yes? I mean if you will 476 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: another layer to it, which I which I really like. Sorry, 477 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: go ahead, Sam, Well, if you're watching, if you watch 478 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: all of seasons, maybe it's maybe it's a four season 479 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: show to promote the Mask singer one episode of the Mass. 480 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: If you watch all four seasons of this show, tell 481 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: me it won't be hyped as hell to watch the Mask. 482 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: I imagining the promo for this show. It's like it's 483 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: Christina Aguilar and Katie truly, just like a little promotional 484 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: um teaser. It's them just like hugging in tears, just 485 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: like truly, they both think they're gonna die in kind 486 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: of a glass cage, and then finally they're like, we're 487 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna go to Margin, Kentucky And then I pay Christina. 488 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: Could we just um just as an as an altar 489 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: in case in case people are like, why are you 490 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: a group of men imperiling women in selling them with 491 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: the fear of death? What if there was a spinoff 492 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: who do You Who do you trust? Men? And it 493 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: was Ted Dancing and Charlie Pooth. Yes, that's exactly what 494 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: Ted Danson and Charlie Pooth are the perfect analogs to 495 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Katie Kirk and Aguilera. Charlie Pooth, that's really how you 496 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: say that name. I don't think it was. I guess Pute. No, 497 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: it's pooth. I mean it's just Poots sounds so silly. 498 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: There's no way to not sound silly with that. I'm sorry. 499 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: You think shot sounds less silly than pooth. Um, yeah, 500 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: I do confidence Pute sounds less silly than poof sounds silly. Fuss, 501 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: And then he goes by puff daddy, No, no, um, Well, 502 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: we think we should word play. I feel like we 503 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: should maybe. Oh my god, we're so on the same page. 504 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Where like Eric and Christina Aguilera before one of them 505 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: paches okay. Our first segment Josh is called straight Shooters, 506 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: and it is a segment where we gauge your familiarity 507 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: with straight culture and and straight language and straight concepts 508 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: by giving you a series of rapid fire questions where 509 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: you have to choose one thing or another thing. And 510 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of a raw shock test to figure out 511 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: what you know. You're gravitating towards one thing or the other. 512 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: What does that mean about? Okay? And The one rule 513 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: is that you are not allowed to ask any follow 514 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: up questions about any of the questions or about how 515 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: the game works. Okay, okay, what I deserve? Okay, Josh, Um, 516 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: I have a startup or I'm thinking of ending things. Ah, 517 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of ending things. Josh writing an op ed 518 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: about being silenced, or posting a hot pick to raise 519 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: awareness of body positivity, posting a posting a hot pic. Okay, 520 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: Baja blast or code red codred fantasy football or income 521 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: inequality fantasy football. Um getting canceled or getting convicted, getting 522 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: convicted Liberal in fighting or adult bed wedding Liberal in 523 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: fighting Martha Mary May Marlene or Tinker Taylor soldier spy. 524 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: Tinker Taylor soldier spy. I think one of the m 525 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: names is wrong Martha, Macy May Marlene. Oh damn it, 526 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: but that was a good one. I was gonna ask 527 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: you those attractions, but I'm not allowed. I understand how 528 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: this game works. Focus White Teeth by Zadie Smith, White 529 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: Girls by Hilton Als or White Beans Stewed by Alison 530 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: Roman Um, White Girls by Hilton Als. Sam Are you done? 531 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm done? Actually? Okay? Wait, Josh, Now I want to 532 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: know what your question was going to be totally forget. 533 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: It was, wait, what were we talking about, Martha, Mary? 534 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: I was going to say, was that a trick question 535 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: for me? Yeah? You know, here's the thing. I you know, 536 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: I was like, what was that movie title that used 537 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: to be funny? And then I googled it and I 538 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, got it, and I jotted it down 539 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: real quick. I jotted it down a little too quick. 540 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's such a that's such a 541 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: great straight shooter. That's like one of the best we've 542 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: ever done. I think it's such a good tight one 543 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: in that both are movies that have funny titles. One 544 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 1: is more feminine, one is more masculine. No, it's did 545 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: a really good job. So it was really stupid. I 546 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: just you know, I know you are feeling really insecure 547 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: right now. And it was Martha, Macy, Marilyn. I an't 548 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: think that one Marcy. No, I think it's I think 549 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: it's Macy. I wrote, Marcy, goddamn considered party. It's bringing 550 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: Pinker Taylor soldier spy to that, Okay, but it is Marcy. 551 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't when it. When I thought it was Mary, 552 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: I was like now, but now it's the one. Marcy 553 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: is the It's interesting that it ended up being Marcy. 554 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: And we were debating between Mary and Macy, which if 555 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: you put them together, create Marcy. What is a Marcy 556 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: but a Mary plus a Macy, a Mary plus amazing. Yeah, 557 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean that's right there in black and white. George 558 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: fully given up on scoring our guests. I well, so 559 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: so Josh to take you behind the curtain, which everyone 560 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: begs us to do. I didn't want to seem desperate, 561 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: but I was aching for this moment. So basically, this 562 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: the way this segment has worked in the past is 563 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't say there are check test 564 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: bit and we're literally just like, this is a series 565 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: of rapid fire questions. You have to answer them, and 566 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: you can't ask any follow up questions. And then everyone 567 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: is obviously confused and they're like, wait, am I picking 568 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: the straighter one? Wait? Am I picking the one I like? 569 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: And then the whole joke is that we then get 570 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: mad at them and we're like, you can't ask any questions. 571 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: So then we were like, is that too much to 572 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: literally have that same exact joke in and out? And 573 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: this was and I have to say in retrospect, Sam 574 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: was right about this, so my I was the one 575 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: who was like, is that big getting old? But I 576 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: think what we've been now doing for three episodes, which 577 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: is over explaining it and explaining about the behind the 578 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: scenes of I actually think, weirdly enough, that's more tiresome 579 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: than just let me take you behind my curtain. If 580 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: you wow, this never happens, I'm reverse curtain. So I 581 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: have been. I listened to an episode of the show 582 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: today in preparation. I enjoyed it very much, but I 583 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: knew coming in that I wasn't gonna be allowed to 584 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: ask questions and that you were going to be evaluating 585 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: me on my answers. So I came in very prepared 586 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 1: and so I feel like I was maybe over prepared 587 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: for this new world. Well it's only you know, recently obviously, 588 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: as everyone knows, our podcast is growing exponentially and we 589 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: have a lot of celebrity fans and so a lot 590 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: of people. It's it's now more common for our guests 591 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: who have listened to the podcast for the first nine 592 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: months that was not the game. So it's um but 593 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: that is an added variable that we have to consider. 594 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: Is people know how we're going to trick them. It 595 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: started to become a bit of a It was notable 596 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: because you know, we're you know, we're in the early 597 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: stages of like having our close friends on the podcast, 598 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: and never did they listen to it before, and the 599 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: listeners they'd say, this is is this on purpose? Are 600 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: they faking it? Has truly no one listened to it 601 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: eight months in our our official UM tagline forru Straighter 602 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: lab is is this on purpose? You know we're playing 603 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: with the flour. We're going back to each other curtains? 604 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Why not? I think that I kind of like, uh 605 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: an intermingling and a mutual partning of curtains. Yes, you know, 606 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: and especially for us three titans of the industry have 607 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: such iron curtains up. We don't let any speakers out, 608 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: and UM to just let people in week after week now, 609 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: it's so rare. It's so I've never shared any Nothing 610 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I've said on this podcast so far has been true 611 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: about myself. So this is the first time that I'm 612 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: even opening up a tiny bit, just admitting that I 613 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: have curtains. That's the first step. I mean, I feel 614 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: like a great topic for this podcast, not to not 615 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: to suggest for other episodes is not having curtains. Oh 616 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: my god. It's so funny because I, as I've discussed 617 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: on this podcast now many times, I feel a sense 618 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: of paralysis about decorating my new apartment and I've lived 619 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: here for three months and one of the things I 620 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: don't have is curtains. So it would be a real 621 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: self phone. Okay, speaking of topics, Josh, I really want 622 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: to get into yours. Let's do it. Um wow in 623 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: a record. It's so rare that we get into the 624 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: topic of this early in the game. Um, But you 625 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: came in with a lot of really really good topics 626 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: and I do want to kind of mention them because 627 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: it was difficult to pick. One was Ben Affleck, One 628 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: was the Big Lebowski, One was the city of Boston. 629 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: I think that's it, and and then which and then 630 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: we landed, sorry Sam, tell and tell us where we 631 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: have landed. Introduced the topic that we landed on, the 632 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: topic that we're going to discuss today in a straight 633 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: culture is framed posters at framed movie posters as deckor yes, 634 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: framed movie posters as decor and so accurate? Do you 635 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: do you have frame movie posters as decor. I don't 636 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: in my home now, but I have there has been 637 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: a period in my in my life where I've had 638 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: various movie posters in various states of framing and poster nudity. 639 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 1: What would you say is the most straight movie poster 640 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: you have either had or not had framed? The Big Lebowski, 641 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: which was another one another one of my suggestions as 642 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: a topic, and it was it wasn't quite framed, but 643 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: it was in a stiff, clear plastic sleeve, which is 644 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: kind of the yeah, the Slobs frame if you wipe 645 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: so there. It's funny that you say that that's the 646 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: Slobs frame, because the other I would say, the heightened 647 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: Slobs frame is those wooden rods that you like hang 648 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: the post and then hanging in with two strings. It's like, 649 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: that's maybe that's the queer Slobs frame. That's that's like 650 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: a message from the King. Yes fiction, you know, yeah, 651 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: there's a it reminds me of like the King, like 652 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: evil villain and Pocahontas that with like like there's one 653 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: giant parchment. Yes, it's it's colonialists. It's essentially colonialist. It's 654 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: such a cloe. So, Sam, what is the most straight 655 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: poster you've ever owned. You mentioned it, you know, back 656 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: when I didn't have a personality, I didn't know who 657 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I was, and I was just grasping at straws. You 658 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: better believe my ass had a pulp fiction poster in 659 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: my freshman A classic, a classic of the genre, a 660 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: classic of the genre. And you just think you're finally 661 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: free from your parents, and you say, what am I? 662 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: I actually have never had a personality before, because I 663 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: gotta go on quick. The thing about people our age 664 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: having a pulp fiction poster, Uh, in Big Lubowski, it 665 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: was like a few years. Difference is by the time 666 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: we were decorating dorm rooms and our own apartments and 667 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: stuff that was not an edgy neither was an edgy 668 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: movie anymore. Right, they were both canonized, yes, recognized this 669 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: widely snubb by the oscars pulp fiction, and uh, you know, 670 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: I think so like by the time in the Ots, 671 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: we were not like taking a stand with our pulp 672 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: fiction poster. Yes, no, correct, It's kind of like being 673 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: like I love Memento, but I do want to start 674 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: to you know, um once against steal the spotlight, but 675 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: I do want to one both of you, I do, 676 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: I just before I forget because I want to one 677 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: up both of you, which with the poster I had 678 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: in my freshman dorm and this is so you guys 679 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: are talking about like, oh, it's you know these are 680 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of embarrassing because they are movies that 681 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: are not as provocative as one thinks they are, and 682 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: they're kind of candidates. Mine was more like, I am 683 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: so desperate to appear sophisticated, but I don't have anything 684 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: but have nothing to show for it, like, have no taste, 685 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: have like have never actually seen a good film or 686 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: read a good book, And what what is the way 687 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: I can just project that I think I'm sophisticated at 688 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: eighteen And it was the following It was a Japanese 689 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: is amally poster that is insane. My neck snapped just truly. 690 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: Both of your faces were I've never seen such shock. 691 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: When you said Japanese, I was like, okay, Japanese. Uh, 692 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: a version of a poster for an American film, No, 693 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: no double international Japanese poster of a French film, and 694 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: literally the one French film that had been it is 695 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,959 Speaker 1: the most basic one. It is the one French film 696 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: that all basic you know, white girls, not the stereotype. 697 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: Were like, it's literally like the proto Emily imparients. Her 698 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: name is very close to Emily. I've never admitted that, 699 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: Um in public, do you feel better or worse? I mean, 700 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: this is really me pulling back my curtain to reveal 701 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: the Japanese Emily poster. I'm embarrassing that when I finally 702 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: it's like it's like, you know, the poster of door 703 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: and gray, like there's something hidden, and finally you're like, 704 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: here it is, and it's a Japanese Omily poster. She 705 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: looks like ship. It's literally like an aged Emily in Paris. 706 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: I haven't say, Sam, I've never seen you. You truly 707 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: look like you've lost all respect for me. It's to 708 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: see you in that way is jarring, because you know, 709 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: you like at this point you're like intellect or whatever, 710 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: and your pretentiousness is a little bit earned. You know, 711 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: you like you've done the reading, um if you will. Uh. 712 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: You know you're dating Michael Barborrow and so it's it's 713 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: all sticking through him, through sticking with him through the 714 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: scandal exactly. And now I'm learning, Like when you learn 715 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: that someone it didn't come naturally. It was like very 716 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: on purpose, like it takes away, like it feels a 717 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: little crazier it starts. It makes me scared of you. 718 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: It's like when that when um a baby as a 719 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: big head basically and then the baby grows up and 720 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that's a regular size head. It fits 721 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: you so nicely. It's exactly like that, Thank you, UM. 722 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: I had a big head as an eighteen year old. 723 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: And also it's the difference between us is interesting because 724 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: I chose the route of like, let's fit in, let's 725 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: let's uh, let's follow the peers in a way, And 726 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: you said, how do I get up as far above 727 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: my peers as I possibly can? But I think what 728 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: you're but what you're not kind of taking into account 729 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: is that there were actual cool people during this time 730 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: that like did happen. I wasn't. And meanwhile I didn't 731 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: even know who they were or how to be friends with. 732 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: Like I realized this later after I left college. In fact, 733 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: I realized that when I went to Coach Hell and 734 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: my senior year of gone, and I realized that I 735 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,720 Speaker 1: that there was this cool group who were like naturally 736 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: going to Coach hell, whereas I was like I had 737 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: to put on I was like I have to go 738 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: thrift ng to wear something like. And so in the meantime, 739 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: like there were people when I was ordering my Emily 740 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: poster from all Posters dot Com that were at the 741 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: time like doing drugs and going because I went to 742 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: college in a big campus school that was not close 743 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: to a city like that, we're actually going into the 744 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: city to like go to concerts and had fake ideas. 745 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: And meanwhile I was like watching Emily on my laptop. Question, 746 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: did you speak French or Japanese at the time, Well, 747 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: let me nip the ladder in the bud. I did 748 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: not speak Japanese in terms of French. I did take 749 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: French and highest school. Um. But but certainly I was 750 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: not at the level where I was watching French films 751 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 1: without subtiles because I was like, because that's if you're 752 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: watching a French movie where dubbed in Japanese. I do 753 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: want to just come right out and say I had 754 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: zero relationship the Japanese culture at all. Still have not 755 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: been to Japan, you know, no connection like you have, 756 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: because yes, um, exactly, Oh my god, Josh, this podcast 757 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: isn't about George is about you, right, poster is um 758 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: the So the Big Lebowski not framed in the clear, 759 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: stiff plastic sleeping came in. That's important. I think pub 760 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: fiction strikes me as like a beloved straight classic. But 761 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: The Big Lebowski, in both the tone of the movie 762 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: and the format in which I decided to display the 763 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: poster kind of um embody the straight male quality of 764 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: not trying very hard, right. So I think that's that's 765 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: part of it. It's also I think The Big Lebowski 766 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: and pulp fiction are interesting because both of them actually 767 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: have an iconic, very campy female performance in them, but 768 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: they have been written into history as straight movies. Yes, 769 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: and The Big Lebowski. I think pulp fiction has a 770 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: broader fan base the Big Lebowski. I think if you 771 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: pulled a hundred women who date men, especially white men, 772 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: and they were like, what's the movie the most boyfriends 773 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: have tried to make you watch even though you've already 774 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: seen it, Like The Big Yeah, I don't like just 775 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: like The Big Lebowski, but it is one of those 776 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: things growing up where I was like, this is a 777 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: little bit forced on me, Like I'm doing it because 778 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm supposed to. It's funny, but it 779 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 1: is one of those movies. And I actually feel this 780 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: way about like a lot of kind of boy movies 781 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: like that, where I've almost now come back around where 782 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: first they were forced on me. Then because it felt 783 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: so forced, I rejected it and was like, no, I 784 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: only like gave stuff. But now as I'm older, I'm like, 785 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: I love the Coen Brothers. I love like certain Tarantino movies. 786 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: Like I actually rediscovering them without the biases that were 787 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: like part of how they were introduced to you is 788 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: like a different experience. I actually just watched rewatched Far 789 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: Ago the other day and I was like, I saw 790 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: it with new eyes. Talked about in and icon of 791 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: meeting female performance during TRIVI, but Julian Moore in The 792 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: Big Lebowski Great, I still love I still love The 793 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: Big Lebowski, But I do I feel like that one 794 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: of the things about like being a good person is 795 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,439 Speaker 1: like being a fan of stuff in a way where 796 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: you're not just like shoving it in people's faces. Yeah, 797 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: there's so back to the laziness of straight male decorating. Um. 798 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: I also in the same in the same vein I 799 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,479 Speaker 1: think that's like where like graphic teas come into place 800 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 1: because it's like, well, I don't want to like show 801 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: you through like colors and like patterns. What my deal is. 802 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: It's like I gotta tell you I like this thing, 803 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: Like I just like this thing. Um which remember the 804 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles my torso fucking does this is me? Okay, 805 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: get over it? Yeah wow? But you know we can't 806 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: talk to confidently because I'm sitting in front of a 807 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: white wall with a green screen on it, and George 808 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: is sitting in a completely white, undecorating apartment. You know, 809 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: you're actually the only the apartment that is sort of tasteful, 810 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: and I see framed things in the background and a 811 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: little couch. Oh yeah, there's it's to be to to 812 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: pull back a second curtain. Futon? How many? Well, but 813 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: it is giving me, and I'm sort it is giving 814 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: me guest room energy. Yes, I'm glad that energy comes through. 815 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: This is office slash guest room. So the phuton is 816 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: for for sitting while you're doing work or for when 817 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: we have a guest and so it's not I'm not 818 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: a married person insisting that his wife's sleep on a futon, right, 819 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: that would be but it's practical, baby, that would be psychotic. 820 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: That would be like really like grown up, like an adult, 821 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: a successful adult, and you refuse to not sleep in 822 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: the futon I have to. It's even in the studio apartment. 823 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: I feel like the movie is you sit on the 824 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: edge of the bed you know gone and turn it 825 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: into a couch each day. Yeah, that's like I like this. 826 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: Hold on, here's a character of a successful businessman who 827 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: sleeps on a food on the first thing you do 828 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: every day when you get up in the morning, you 829 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: rise with the sun, you turn your bed into the couch. 830 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: It just sets the tone for the day. I love 831 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: the idea of someone doing one of those like you 832 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: know habits of highly productive people and then reveal I'm 833 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: sure this has been done as like a shouts and murmurs, 834 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: but like revealing through through the various steps that they're 835 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: absolutely batshited insane. It's like like first you turn your 836 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 1: bed into a fouton, then you opened the door into 837 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: the street whatever. Like it just like becomes clear that 838 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: they're literally living like a one example to make it funny. 839 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: So I love just like the seven high habits of 840 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,280 Speaker 1: highly productive People you turn your bed into a couch, 841 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: you open the window, you yell at a dog half 842 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: an hour nice and hot at undisclosed workplace. You never know, 843 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: you'll never know. I mean boiler rock is I'm sorry, 844 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: but that's genius. I don't care who you are. Okay, 845 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: we were literally we were just talking about like when people, 846 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: when comics say, that's a perfect joke, but like that's 847 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: me with you saying boiling a rock. I don't care 848 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: how hot your rock still is from yesterday. You boil 849 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: it again, you can't. It's just to prove that you 850 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 1: stick to commitments. How that is though, Like I could 851 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: see that being um one of those things you know what, 852 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: like when when comics will be like, no matter what, 853 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: go to seven open mics anight, Like even if you're 854 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: literally that's commented, it's like boiling a rock over and 855 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: over again as commentary on that exactly what that is? 856 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: Just like all that stuff that people say, it's like 857 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: you've got to get to at least fifteen thousand MySpace 858 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: friends business, just like all the wisdom that's just like, 859 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: well that's how one guy you know did it. That's 860 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 1: the only reason you're saying that that's everything in the world. 861 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: When people that like are successful or like, well, it's 862 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: kind of you just gotta right, Like, oh, you want 863 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 1: know how to get a writing job, just write one 864 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: play and it's like that worked for you. Like everyone, 865 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: that's insane advice. Now, I do want to issue the 866 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: Straighter Lab challenge. If boil a rock every day every 867 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: morning for a year and then send us a photo 868 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: of and then do a TikTok of all three sixty 869 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the time laps of all the rocks 870 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: the rocket. It's like, yeah, it's the same. This is important. 871 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: Isn't the same rock every day every day? And then 872 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: it's like it's like an up Rocks video that's like 873 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: this comedian boiled the same rock every day. The results 874 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: are actually what you would expect. Here's what I will say. 875 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: I'd feel like if you do have the resolve to 876 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: boil a rock every single day, you are doing something right. 877 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: Like it is like doing something real. It's like you 878 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: want to write a movie. First, try to boil a 879 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: rock every morning, and then slowly switch that with like 880 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: instead of oils, while the water comes to a boil, 881 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: you right when it reaches a rolling boil you stop writing. 882 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: It's that simple. It's simple. That's how wrote the Biggle. 883 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: They boiled a rock every day for a year and 884 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 1: they said they said they made a pact with each other. 885 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, we throw the rock 886 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: into the woods, sucking in the woods, and our script 887 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: is done. I mean, I think we have a seminar 888 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: we could charge. Yeah. This, Yeah, it may look like 889 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 1: an ordinary rock, but I see meditation, I see focus, 890 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: and I see routine. That's what you're gonna need to 891 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: finish your screenplay. Hey, my name is Sam, and this 892 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: is writing a screenplay by boiling a rock. This mastered 893 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: class is interesting. Somebody they're like, wait a minute, that 894 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 1: was shame Black with the weapon that's about boiling your rock. 895 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm a le in on this. I'm ready to the vest. 896 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: It's the perfect thing that it's like it combines that 897 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: this kind of oh god, what's his name, Like the 898 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: four hour work week, Oh Tim Ferris, like Tim Ferris 899 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: sensibility with like weird comedian brain. I feel like, oh, 900 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: sorry you no, no. I feel like there's all this 901 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: stuff that people post confidently online like it's science or wisdom, 902 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, has that ever worked, you know, 903 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: like it's the kind of thing where people are like 904 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 1: if you ask an introvert how they're doing today, punching 905 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: them in the neck, And I'm like, I want to know, 906 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: because if that's real, then I will change the way 907 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: I converse. But if that's just something one person who 908 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: is having a bad day thought, then I will not know. 909 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: It's literally like ever consider the fact that whenever you 910 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: address anyone, they have a trauma response. Well, it's like, yeah, 911 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 1: I like when the infographic is like, instead of asking 912 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 1: how are you, here's ten helpful phrases to check in 913 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: with your friends without putting pressure on them, And then 914 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: like some of them are like some of them are 915 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: like reasonable things that you might say, and then some 916 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: of them are just like like I'm supposed to say, 917 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: like what it is, big Papa, Like that doesn't sound 918 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: like how I would talk, Like like it's like it's 919 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: like it'll be like less aggressive ways to say how 920 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: are you? And you're like, I didn't know it was 921 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: aggressive to begin with, Like, and again, if it is 922 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 1: if if there are people, if there are swaths of 923 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: the population, and when I say, like, hey, how's it going, 924 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: like you said to me when we started. He said 925 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: how are you when the podcast started, and I didn't 926 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: have a great answer. But that doesn't that doesn't mean 927 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: it was offensive to me. That just needs talking. Oh, 928 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: don't take the blame on this. George asked you that 929 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: purposefully to bring off off. But but it's like and 930 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to like, I don't want to like 931 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: bag on. You know people who are living in the 932 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: impression or extremely introverted, but it's like about everything where 933 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: they will be like, um, it'll be like, you know, uh, 934 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: cooking vegetables for half an hour. Uh, okay, that's uh, 935 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: that's sexiss, Like I don't know what that is, is it? 936 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: I just want to know. Yeah. There's also that thing 937 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 1: in terms of like scientific hacks or whatever, when people 938 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: will say I once saw there was something that was 939 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: like i'll save you some time, just cook everything in 940 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: degrees and it's like no, like different things cook at 941 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: different temperatures, right right, right right. But honestly, that kind 942 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: of hearkens back to what you're saying. It's like oiler 943 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: rock people, everyone is different, Like, yes, there are maybe 944 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: some people that have a good response to how are you, 945 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: some people that have a bad one. Some people have 946 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: the medium one. But the solution to that is not 947 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: to think of a different catch all. It's to like 948 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: feel out the energy of the person you're talking exactly right. 949 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: It's like to treat every person with like, uh, with 950 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: respect and care that you're dealing with and like if 951 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: there's someone in your life that you repeatedly are like, 952 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: how are you doing and it it fills them with dread, 953 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: then you can know that about that person. Um, but yeah, 954 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: I love the hacks, right, It's just like, oh, um, 955 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: if you wanna you're you're not meeting enough people. Just 956 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: suck a coat. People are desperate to simplify and with 957 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: people are desperate disimplified. I love like hacks that are 958 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: just like so undesirable and inconvenient or like so none. 959 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: It's like forgetting that we actually are humans that have intuition. 960 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: So we went off. I'm not even sure. I'm not 961 00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: even sure politically where this rand bits Like is this 962 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: are we like triggered much to everyone that's like trying 963 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: to be empathetic online? Are I can't tell my worst 964 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: year is turning into a triggered gay like every day? Yes, 965 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean you must know how this feels as soon 966 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: as there's a podcast, Mike, there's a little demon inside 967 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: of you that says, wait, am I all right now? 968 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Like it is like truly my worst fear that like 969 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 1: one day I'll just like start getting like like I'm 970 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're doing now for fun, but like one 971 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: day I'll just hear something that's new and I'll be like, na, 972 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: that's like my whole new philosophy is not yelled. Um wait, 973 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 1: I want to be conscious of the time, Josh. Do 974 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: we have any final words on the framing of movie posts? 975 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Um ah, yes, I'll let me. I think it's movie 976 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: posters nice A lot of the their aesthetic there, their sales, 977 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: a sales, a picture for the movie. But I don't 978 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 1: unless there're a movie that you made, or a movie 979 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 1: that has like special significance for your life where you 980 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: met your partner, the movie that that inspired you to 981 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: go to film school the most, you know, the a 982 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: movie that you watch with your your parents who have 983 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: since passed, like something with a specific significance other than 984 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: like this movie fucking rules. Um, then I think maybe 985 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: it's like a little aggressive as home decor. And I 986 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: will say, even if you're dead, father, was the star 987 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: of this movie, uh, or you watched it while you 988 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: lost your virginity? Do not have a poster for the 989 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Boondogs Saints. I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you there. 990 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: My father was the star of the Boondocks Saints. I 991 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: would have that damn poster. And my boyfriend like, can 992 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: we take the Boondocks at supposed to down? And be like, no, 993 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: my father is the scar of that film. I'm not 994 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: thinking that poster down no matter what happens. Um. Yeah, 995 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: we can't get I don't want to get too far 996 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: back into it because I also want to be conscious 997 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: of time. But I do also while you were talking 998 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: about that, it made me think, um, it is like, 999 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: uh sort of a way to be like, well, yeah, 1000 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm decorating my house, but it's not like there 1001 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: is it's like art. Yeah, but it's for a movie, 1002 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, like it in this movie. Uh. I do 1003 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: have one question that we can end on, which I 1004 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: think might be interesting, which is what movie that is current, 1005 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 1: that like was released in the last five years that 1006 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: we like or that's considered good will unfortunately become the 1007 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: big Lebowski or pulp fiction of posters for like the 1008 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: next generation. And I have an answer for this. Oh, 1009 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: I may want to hear your answer. My answer is 1010 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: and I hate I love this movie. But my answer 1011 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: is Phantom Thread. Oh. Interesting because it is the type 1012 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: of movie that starts being like very much a film 1013 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: lover's film, and like a respect you know, it's just 1014 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: popular enough. It's Paul Thomas Anderson, you know, so in 1015 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: that way, people will be like, oh, this is the 1016 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: one post right ken that is safe to to have 1017 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: in my home or something. But then as soon as 1018 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: one basic person will do it, because they will just 1019 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 1: have seen it somewhere, and then it will be over. 1020 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I've got one that is that starts the opposite direction 1021 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: that goes from dorms outward, which is mad Max Ferry, 1022 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: road m action and prestige. I think is a good 1023 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: a good zone. I another movie I love Embarrassing. So 1024 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: it's so fun. Has been Zo has been tweeting about 1025 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: like watching it like multiple days in a row recently. 1026 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: It's so good. Yeah. Um, well, I will say, I 1027 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: don't have an answer. I've been racking my brain and 1028 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: I think you guys could rushed it. And I'm just 1029 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: here to be your cheerleader. I feaking love your guys, brains, 1030 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: and you nailed it. I'll tell you what. If you're 1031 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: having a hard time thinking about an answer for this, 1032 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: if while you think boiler rock and on that note, 1033 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I think it's time for it. I know a segment. 1034 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm about to boiler rock to set the timer. Um 1035 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: in our final segment called shoutouts, a segment that famously 1036 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Sam is really good at and I'm really bad at 1037 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: and that makes me feel secure. We it's head versus heart, 1038 01:04:55,240 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: you know. Uh oh okay. A previous episode where our 1039 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 1: guests Spike Josh told us that in their high school 1040 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: they were rated on skills of the heart and skills 1041 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: of the mind. Indeed, with the Los Angeles skills of 1042 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: the heart is like skills as it was like feats 1043 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: no tasks, I don't know, but it was like something 1044 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: of the heart and something of the mind. So funny anyway, um, 1045 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I have when that just came to me, Sam, But 1046 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: do you want to go for what? Oh? Wait, no, 1047 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: we should tell Josh. So this is like a TRL 1048 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: style shout out, UM kind of it started out because 1049 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, radio shoutouts SERIL shoutouts are such a instrumental 1050 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: part of straight culture. So it's you giving a shout 1051 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: out to your boys back home about something that you like, 1052 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: or something making you happy, or something that you want 1053 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,640 Speaker 1: to raise awareness for. Um. And in the tradition of 1054 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: this podcast, we both come came completely and prepared and 1055 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: are doing the first thing that comes to our mind 1056 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: as we speak. As you're about to witness what's up stairs. 1057 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out to broccoli. 1058 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: That's right, the vegetable. The other night, I hate did 1059 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: something which I rarely do as a very straight edge individual, 1060 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 1: which is I had a fourth of a weed gummy 1061 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 1: and then I had left over broccoli when I got 1062 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: the munches, and I realized broccoli is one of the 1063 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: most majestic looking vegetables and little trees and has such 1064 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: a kind of bright and vibrant color. And it's so 1065 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: unfair that we think of it as such a you know, 1066 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: it's very like eat your vegetables, eat your broccoli. I 1067 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 1: think broccoli should have a resurgence much like Brussells sprouts 1068 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 1: and cauliflower did in the kind of twenty tens. And 1069 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: I think we need to make broccoli cool again. Um. Okay, 1070 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: what's up? Listeners. Um, I just want to give a 1071 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: huge shout out to the college days. That's right, those 1072 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: days in the dorm, walking around the quad. Oh so 1073 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: there's a friend high. Oh my god, Hey, wow, I 1074 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: know everybody on this campus and those were the days. 1075 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh the memories. Remember parties. Wow, Remember not knowing who 1076 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: you were really and being like, Okay, I need to 1077 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: learn a lot more about pavement if I'm going to 1078 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: start fitting in around here. Damn. I love college. One 1079 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: of blast who go who's you know? You saying like 1080 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of describing that experience of walking around and knowing people. 1081 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: It really is. There's nothing like my favorite thing on earth. 1082 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I remember being like proud of myself, like, wow, I 1083 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: saw twenty people I knew and it was like, well, 1084 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: of course you did. You're in like a three acre 1085 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: like and when I visited, like when I'm in in 1086 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Greece before my grandfather passed away. Not to truly bring 1087 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: down the shout out, I'm sorry talking about my grandfather. 1088 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: We went to his um, you know, to to to 1089 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: the village or to the sorry you didn't village like 1090 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 1: my grandmother did. Multiple of my grandparents grew up in 1091 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: villages in Greece. And what I'm trying to say is 1092 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: that that you go to a village in Greece and 1093 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: it actually like it's very similar to a college campus, 1094 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, this is just like a college campus. 1095 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: And then you realize, actually everything used to be like 1096 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 1: a college campus, but because of the Industrial Revolution, we 1097 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: now feel alienated from everyone around. Okay, So, Josh tipper ship, 1098 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna, well, before you ship all over it, 1099 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna shout out to the industrial Revolution. What's 1100 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: a listener shout out to the hour between ten pm 1101 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and eleven pm. It is a nice time of day. 1102 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: You can go to sleep if you want. You can 1103 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: stay up and then go to sleep after it. You 1104 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: won't be too tired the next day. At ten to 1105 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: eleven pm, you can text a friend and it's not weird. 1106 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 1: It's not too late. They won't be like, what's he 1107 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,560 Speaker 1: doing up this late? Is he going through something? No, 1108 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: probably just saying high as he winds down for the day. 1109 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 1: On Sometimes they're sports you can watch. You can start 1110 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: watching a comedy special or a couple episodes of a 1111 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 1: show you like. It's done. By eleven you can go 1112 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: to bed. Wow, Yeah, that is such a good point, 1113 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 1: and it is the it's the final stretch of when 1114 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 1: it's acceptable to start a movie too, I would say 1115 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: maybe not eleven. Well, what this is my toxicity is 1116 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: when I get to that ten to eleven hour, I'm like, oh, 1117 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: I've got time. Oh I've got a lot of time. 1118 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: Well me too, I mean, and honestly, personally speaking, I 1119 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: would start at eleven. But what I've learned from being 1120 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 1: in relationships is that most people don't want to do that. Well, 1121 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Michael Barbara is gonna get up early to publish the 1122 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Daily in the morning. What Michael and I do behind 1123 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 1: curtains is none of your Batrion episodes are called behind curtains, right, 1124 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 1: and it's like behind with me and Michael Barbara. Well, Josh, 1125 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: I have to say, this has been truly a delight. 1126 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 1: We are so happy you did the pod. Thank you 1127 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 1: for sending your six or seven pm hour with us. 1128 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Another good hour, another classic hour, um and honestly rock 1129 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 1: on every episode. Ancer is that straight? Believe it? I 1130 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: just thought of that. I actually just thought of that. 1131 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 1: We've never done that before. It's all right, Well, I'm 1132 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 1: gonna go boil