1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone, 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: guest today is known for our role on one of 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: my favorite TV shows that is in its final season, 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to talk to her about feminism, 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: about being a mom, and how she finds ways to 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: choose herself even when she's filming The Handmaid's Tale. You 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: can catch new episodes of The Handmaid's Tale by the way, 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Tuesday nights on Hulu. Please welcome ever Carrodane to the podcast. 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: First of all, we we know each other. 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: We used to do yoga together. 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you? Where on Venture Boulevard? 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I did a movie with Peter right? 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: What movie? Uh? You know? 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: It never came out. It was called rope Walk and 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: it got sort of stuck in litigation, but we filmed 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: it on Nantucket and then remember home. My husband now 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: my husband, but my then boyfriend and I would go 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: down to yoga and one day we walked in and 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: there were you and Peter, who also did couples yoga 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: with Jenni Brill. 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: Jenny Brill, that's right. Where is Jenny Brill now? 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Jennie Brill is still teaching yoga? 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I miss her energy. 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: I don't you, purple hair. I run into her every 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: now and then if I'm down in Studio City, I 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: might catch her getting like a macha or something exactly 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: the same. 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad you remember, because I was racking 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: my mind last night trying to remember. 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm like an elephant with stuff like that. 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: It just goes somewhere, it doesn't come out good. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Wait, that was your fiance then or just your boyfriend 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: when you went here? 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: I think he was just my boyfriend. 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Then did your boyfriend take his shirt off at yoga? 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: No? Peter did, though, I'm really glad. 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember that too? Oh my god. He would 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: take his shirt off and he was so sweaty every time. 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: And remember Jenny was into like partner stuff, and I 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: was like, I don't don't, I don't want to do 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: Peter Kobe. 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Don't let me touch him. That's how I felt, too. 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: All good. He was really good at yoha. 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: It might have been the only shirt fore yoga. 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, except for did you ever see Thomas Tom Tom? 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: Tom Tom? What's his name. 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: He was on Yes Melo's Place, Melroe's Place. He played 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: the doctor, Doctor Tom. 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: He was also went to yoga there and was a 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: yoga instructor and also always shirtless. 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a look, it was a vibe. 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: I remember one times, Oh my god, I remember one 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: time in a yoga class, Peter just sweat profusely and 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: he didn't bring a towel, but he thought he did, 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: and he reached back and took the neighbor ladies towel 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: on the yoga mat next to him, and he like 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: wiped off all his sweat on it. And then she 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: was like, excuse me, that's my towel, and he goes, oh, 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: here you go. You know actor, Oh bless art that 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: we laugh about that stuff. 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: It's so good. 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you've had such a good good time 65 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: though in this industry. We're gonna talk about Handmaid's Tale 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: because I'm obsessed with it. But at first I want 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: to start off where pretty much everybody seems to start off. 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: You came from a famous family of actors, which for 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: me is so fascinating because it's so different than the 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: life I grew up in. I think your perspective is 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: much more similar to probably my daughters, being that they 72 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: were born and bred in la and they spent so 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: much time on sets and so did you, and it's 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: just normal for them, and I'm sure it was just 75 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: normal for you. 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: Completely. Where are you from. 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm from Illinois, from the Midwest. 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: And you came out here and look at you. Look 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: what you did. Let me go, it's amazing. I mean, yeah, 80 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: I think that kids don't listen. Also, like I grew 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: up before social media and before Instagram, you know what 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean. Like you had to sort of know who 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: my family was. You had to go to the movies 84 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: or watch television. It wasn't sort of like is in 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: your face as it is now. But no, kids don't kids. 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: I think their parents are their parents, like you know. 87 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Aside from a few perks of the of my dad's job, 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: it was a very normal childhood for me. I didn't 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: feel it's probably a lot like your kids. It was not. 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: It was not a big deal. And also my dad's 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: father was an actor, so I'm now third generation, so 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: he you know, worked the kinks out and I. 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice. That's so nice that you had that 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: sort of access to the industry and that sort of 95 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: like like preconditioning almost totally, and like you were important. 96 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Like child actors might have is that when they grow 97 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: up on set, like being on set feels very at 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: home to them. It feels very normal. They know to 99 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: go to craft service for a snack. They know if 100 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: they got to stain on their sweatshirt that someone in 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: the costume department will give them a new one. Like 102 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: those are things that I learned, but not by being 103 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 2: a child actor, just by sort of like being on set. 104 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids loved it, and I think it's so 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: cool because they did get exposed to a lot of 106 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: different kinds of people, people who work hard for a living, 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: and it made them really appreciate I think, what I 108 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: do and what their dad does. 109 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: Retally, And don't you feel like you can have a 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: conversation with anyone? Like to me, the crew is so diverse, 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: and so they're from everywhere and some of them are 112 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: specific artists and some of them are carpenters, and some 113 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: of them are gear heads or whatever, And like my 114 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: nature is to be inquisitive and like I can have 115 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: a conversation with anybody, and I know that that comes 116 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: from a life on set and genuine curious help. 117 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I love that about them too, that they're 118 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: just not afraid to talk to other adults, which is 119 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: so cool. But I do think it's really cool also 120 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: that even though you had this availability to the industry 121 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: right there for you, you chose to go to college 122 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: and figure your shit out on your own. I did 123 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: do you think back on that time when you went 124 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: away to college? Do you remember it fondly or like, 125 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: were you scared because you moved away? Right? 126 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: I moved? Yeah. So I'm born and raised in Los Angeles. 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: I was raised by my dad, so it's just the 128 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: two of us growing up. I had a wonderful childhood. 129 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: I rode horses. I went to a lovely private school. 130 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: I had a really good friends. I didn't have, you know, 131 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: those nightmare high school years. Like, I had a pretty 132 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: It all went pretty pretty according to plan. And then 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: when I went to when I was applying to college, 134 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: my dad was like, you want to go to college? Yes, 135 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: So I went to college in Portland, Oregon, And you know, 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: Portland in the late nineties was like the height of grin. 137 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: It was a really cool place to be, Like Nirvana 138 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: was like at the top of their game, like singles 139 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: had come out. You know, it was just a very 140 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: cool It was a really cool city. And my dad 141 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: had spent some time there and he was like, go 142 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: to Portland. He's like, it's a great place to sort 143 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: of like practice being an adult. And so that was 144 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: a little how I went into college and then I 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: was a sociology anthropology major, and then I did a play. 146 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: And after I did a play, I was like, oh, 147 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: that was really fun. If I could do that for 148 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: a job, Like if someone paid me to do that 149 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: as a job, Like, how lucky would I be? And 150 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: you know, I was right. So I swapped majors to 151 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: theater and the rest is history. That sounds like a 152 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 2: cheesy way to say it, but you know what I mean. 153 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: But it's true. 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 2: It's true. 155 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Have you been back to Portland lately. 156 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: It's definitely changed. Yeah, I've been back a few times. 157 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: I've been back sort of at its peak, which is, 158 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: you know, it really cleaned up in the Pearl District 159 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: and Pala's bookstore. Everything got so much bigger and better 160 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: and now it's going through a little bit of a transition. 161 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: But I'll come back though. It's so beautiful. 162 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. It's such a good food scene, it's 163 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: such a good beer scene, it's such good coffee. Like, 164 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: there's so much about that Portland has to offer. So 165 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: I just need her to get back on her feet again. 166 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think you felt any kind of pressure 167 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: from just because of your family lineage, like, yeah, to 168 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: like live up to their level of success or something 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: like that. Do you ever feel that pressure? 170 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: You know? I don't think I do. And I always say, 171 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: you know, people talk about like what do they say 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: Napo babies or this sort of stuff, And I always 173 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: felt at the time, and I still feel upon reflecting 174 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: at the beginning of my career that like I was 175 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: treated with a level of respect in auditions or in 176 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: a room that I hadn't quite earned yet. But what 177 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: hell lucky was I to have that? Do you know 178 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: what I mean? I have the feeling of like, oh, 179 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: you respect me and you're listening to me at such 180 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: a tender age, because that since that was the norm, 181 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: that was what I then required respect. 182 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I like that though, yeah you should, you should, yeah. 183 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: One hundred percent, But you know, a twenty two year 184 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: old might not totally feel that yet. Might not used 185 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: to that. 186 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Right, and it's there is certainly something to the fact 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: of earning it and you know. 188 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: Completely looking for it, absolutely absolutely, But. 189 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Which you've done, I. 190 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Don't feel like, you know, I don't feel like I 191 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: was expected to. I mean, I guess the one thing 192 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: I feel like I need to do is a Western. 193 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Like my family is so like cowboys, like and people 194 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: keep asking what my next project is, and I'm like, 195 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: God willing it's a Western, Like I show up at 196 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: work and get on a horse. Wouldn't that be the dream? Oh? 197 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Okay, that's especially a dream. 198 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: It's the dream. 199 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: I did a movie where I was riding a horse. 200 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: I was like a saving my parents ranch or something, 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: and and I was I just found out, like the 202 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: day before that I had a baby inside of my 203 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: belly and I was like, oh my gosh, should I 204 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: be riding this horse? And I can't tell anyone, But 205 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: that's the closest I ever got to a Western, and 206 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: I really want to do one too. 207 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't it be fun? 208 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Definitely? You said before net Bo baby. Let's talk about 209 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: that term, because I'm sure you've heard it. I'm sure 210 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: people have thrown it around for you. I've heard it 211 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: regarding my kids, Like, how do you feel about it? Like, 212 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: what are your feelings about netbo baby stupid? 213 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: I just like it's so dumb, it's such a like 214 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: it's it's the negative connotations to it are so stupid. 215 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: Like for me, I always felt like, what how great 216 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: my dad and family felt that, Like I watched their 217 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 2: careers and then I chose to do the same thing. 218 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: I think it's a lot like my daughter's orthodontist who 219 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: inherited his practice from his father, who is an orthodontist. Like, 220 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: I think it's cool. I think it's cool to do 221 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: the same thing that your parents. 222 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: It is like, come on, I wish I mean, I 223 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: wish I could do that. That sounds like fun, right 224 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: unless your remember and I'm just fully having a moment 225 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: where I was watching White Lotus. Did you watch it? Yeah, 226 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: unless you're Schwartzenegger's his dad, you don't want to go 227 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: into the same business as him. No, he was following 228 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: in his father's footsteps, right. 229 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: Was he like a hedge fun guy? 230 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't even something big money, I don't know, you. 231 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: Know what, Saxon's gonna be fine. 232 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: He was so good in that anyway. Yeah, I don't 233 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: have a problem with anybody using the term NAPA baby. 234 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: I've certainly never been had to use for me, which 235 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to have a use for me, but I 236 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: never got that chance. But for my girls, I'm like, 237 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: you know what, it's really really hard to break in 238 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: to any business, any field, any career, and if you 239 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: have somebody that has a foot in the door, take it. 240 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell me. I got my first agent because 241 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: his daughter was in my class in college and he 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: came and saw a play that we were both in 243 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: and said, when you come back to Los Angeles, give 244 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: me a call. And I went in and I auditioned 245 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: for him and they signed me. And you know, I 246 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: don't know. 247 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: You never you don't know, that's the thing. But you 248 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: know you have talent. The world knows you have talent, 249 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: that's for sure, and so who really cares. 250 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: But it's stupid, It's so stupid. So I guess I'll 251 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: be a proud NEPO baby, But like, don't I don't 252 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: know how much it helped me. 253 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: When your kids are how old are they? 254 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: My son is nine and my daughter is fourteen. 255 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,239 Speaker 1: You're ready for a teenager? 256 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: It's on right, it's on. It's like a donkey though. 257 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: I will say like thirteen was sort of the bumpier 258 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: ride because she's really went for being like a kid too. 259 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: Then you know, a teenage girl and on her way 260 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: to being an adult. But no, fourteen, we're sort of 261 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: forgetting our bearings. She's awesome. He's a great student, great kid, 262 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: great big sister. 263 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I love that. 264 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then my little dude just wants to play baseball. 265 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: He's into baseball. 266 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: All we do. He's on travel team and a wrec team. 267 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: All we do is go to baseball. 268 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: You're a baseball mom. 269 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm such a baseball mom. 270 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: I was a soccer mom. I don't know soccer mom 271 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: has a bad rap. I don't know baseball mom. 272 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: Soccer is too stressful for me. It's so much yelling. 273 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: Right, Oh gosh, hopefully it's not the mom doing it 274 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: that gets you in trouble. I wouldn't know, But. 275 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: Now I don't have any negative connotations to soccer moms thing. 276 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: You got to bring your own chair. 277 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: The chairs and the blankets and the snacks scraps. 278 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: I can't with the snacks. 279 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: And it's an all day thing, like you're out there 280 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: all day. 281 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: Or you're in like Temecula or. 282 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: Something and the dust blowing, it's fun. I'm just let's 283 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: just say, I'm happy those years are over for my daughters. 284 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, like you said before, kids don't they're so humbling. 285 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: They don't care if their mama's famous or a truck driver. 286 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: They just want their food. 287 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: They just want a good snack. 288 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: Do you ever find yourself embarrassing, especially your daughter at 289 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: this age? Like you all the time, all the time, 290 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: right when you breathe my basis. 291 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm loud. I don't really care what people think. I 292 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: don't care like you know, I just this is who 293 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: I am, and it is at fourteen. It's really like 294 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: the opposite of what you want. We were in Toronto 295 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: and we went to see Taylor Swift. We went to 296 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: the Aras tour and a bunch of my cast mirror 297 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: and we got to go. We were like in the 298 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: area with Mama Swift and it was like dream come true. 299 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: And I danced and sang my ass off and she 300 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: was like, oh. 301 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I've had that phase with my daughters. 302 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: But the last time when we went to see Taylor Swift, 303 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Fiona and I flew to Miami, I think with her 304 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: friend to see it, and we all just danced to 305 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: have the best time. They didn't. 306 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: Yes, wasn't the best night ever? 307 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: Best night ever? I know it was as if because 308 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were a Madonna fan when you were 309 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: growing up. 310 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: But I never saw her in concert me either, No, no. 311 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: And I didn't see her when she did this tour. 312 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Neither did I. 313 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: I missed it. It like it came and then it 314 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: went away and then it came back and I missed it. 315 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: I know. 316 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: The best was like my we were all we were 317 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: in Toronto and my family came to visit because we 318 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: were shooting over Thanksgiving, and you know how it is, 319 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: you never know what your schedule is going to be. 320 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: So I was like, you guys, have the week off school, 321 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: come to Toronto, will bag you as Thanksgiving and we'll 322 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: go to Taylor Swift. Get the tickets to Taylor Swift. 323 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: And my husband I was like, I don't know, three 324 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: and a half I like Taylor, but three and a 325 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: half hours, like you can do it. Cut to We're 326 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: at the Ara's tour and within ten minutes, Kobe has 327 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: like his hands in a heart above his head he's 328 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: making he's taking selfies, the tailor behind him dancing like 329 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: oh also, so all in the amassive boy that she 330 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: is able to generate with a collective group of people 331 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: is like, just it's. 332 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: Just a good time? Is such a good good time? 333 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: Do you think your kids, or one of them at least, 334 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: will go into the biz? 335 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Are yours or any of yours? 336 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: Maybe not really, They're all creatives for sure. Yeah, my 337 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: eighteen year old is thinking about it. Yeah, so yeah, 338 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: but she's eighteen now, so I've held her off this long. 339 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's great. No, my daughter, I don't believe 340 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: this is what. No, I don't think so. And then 341 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: my son is cheeky and hammy, but he really you know, 342 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: and I support this if he believes it. He thinks 343 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: he goes from high school to the miners to the 344 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: major league, And I'm like, you know what, buddy, do 345 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: it work for that? 346 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: Right? 347 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: Love to have a professional baseball player as his son. 348 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: So that would be so fun. 349 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: It'd be so fun. 350 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: What kind of conversation are you having with your kids 351 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: around like the state of the world right now? I mean, 352 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: it's impossible to shield them from the news these days, 353 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: like what do you do in your house to keep 354 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: them protected? 355 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's so hard, right because you want them 356 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: to be protected, but you also want to, like you 357 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: want them to understand what's happening. So I mean, they 358 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: know I am a big voter. I am a part 359 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: of an organization called Vote Mama, And what we do 360 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 2: is we raise funds to get mothers elected from everything 361 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: from school board to Senate because a lot of times 362 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: when mothers are finally able to run for office, their 363 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: kids are out of the house. So what Mama does 364 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: is try to help support these women to get them 365 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: in office. Well, the things that you're juggling, like the 366 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: things that you're thinking about with the four year old, 367 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: you're able to then bring into policy, so they know 368 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: voting is important. We always vote together. When was overturned, 369 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: we had a long talk about you know, my body, 370 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: my choice, and nobody should be able to tell me 371 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: what to do about it. And you know, I think 372 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: we talk about everything. 373 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: My son. 374 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: I guess I shield him a little bit more, but 375 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, talk and listen. You know, kids ask 376 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: the darkest things. 377 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, yeah, and they know so much, so much, 378 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: and they're exposed to so much. Like there's something inside 379 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: of me that's so sad about it because you and 380 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: I grew up in such a different time. 381 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: I know, my daughter goes to a girls' school, and 382 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: so what I do love about that is she's definitely 383 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: getting a very strong foundation of female friendships, speaking up 384 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: in class, and doing all the things that she should 385 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: be able to do at fourteen that sometimes get a little, 386 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: you know, hampered by cute fourteen year old boys in 387 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: the same classroom. 388 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're telling me, I know. Feeling I just feel 389 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: like it's my daughter goes to co ed school and 390 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: there's just so much drama and not enough learning. 391 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: So it is nice like that's the one piece of 392 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: the drama, and she wanted to go to this school, 393 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: so that is the one piece of drama that she 394 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: was able to kind of eliminate from her student Christol experience. 395 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah great, Yeah, I mean, even just speaking about it 396 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: feels like oddly we're kind of in this anti feminist 397 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: sort of weird time and history right now, like Tradwives 398 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: and the road Wade and it's what bananas It's yeah, 399 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: it's all the fruits combined with a banana and like 400 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm on The Handmaid's Tale. 401 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like, this is not 402 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: what I always say about the show. Is like being 403 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: on set. I look around and nobody's happy in a dictatorship, 404 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: Like nobody in Gilead is happy. 405 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: Like nobody. 406 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: I promise you all, this is not the future or 407 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: that we want forced birds, it's not the it's not 408 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: what we want. Guys. It's not good, it's not end well. 409 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,239 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, you're like a woman who supports women, and 410 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like your daughter's off to a really great 411 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: start of understanding the importance of that. I don't think 412 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: I understood that as a young girl woman. Yeah, I 413 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: mean well in the industry. 414 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's great for her little brother 415 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: to see, you know, he idolizes her, even though he 416 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: thinks that he doesn't, he does. 417 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: I devoured the book Handmaid's Tale? 418 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: When did you read it. 419 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: Before the show came out? Which I was so happy 420 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: about because then I had a better understanding what was happening. Yeah, 421 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: on the show, and I've watched it since season one, Yes, 422 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: and I'm really sad this is the final season. 423 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: Can you believe it? Well? The thing that people don't 424 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: often remembers, like when we started the show, Obama was 425 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: still president. 426 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: That remember those things. I remember those days. 427 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Obama was still president. So after Trump was elected, 428 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: I was in Toronto and my pink hat marching with 429 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: the good people of Canada, great people we were. I 430 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: had another Trump victory while I was in Toronto. 431 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's quite interesting. It's been quite a ride, 432 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: such a journey. Six season. I feel like I had 433 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: to wait forever for the season to come. 434 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: Out though, because it was a sag after strike, and 435 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: then some babies were born and so we just needed 436 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: a second and you know, it's always cold and gilliad also, 437 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: so you had to wait for it to be fall 438 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: before we could all go back to work. 439 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: What's been your favorite thing about developing your character? 440 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: You play Naomi nam but now Naomi Lawrence. 441 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, how did that happen? Wait? 442 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: How did I Naomi? Yes? I was like, how did 443 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: I get my auditioned? No? Auditioned A long long time ago. No. 444 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: Naomi's husband what's his name? Warren, played by Stephen Conkin, 445 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: was murdered or executed in five by Max Miguela and 446 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: Bradley Whitford. 447 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: Then he's such a bad guy, I know. 448 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: And then at the end of season five, aunt Lydia 449 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: sort of suggests that Naomi should marry Lawrence because we 450 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: can keep each other safe. Because Lawrence's wife, Ellen Moore, 451 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: had also died, but she died she wasn't executed, so 452 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: that's how that happened. It's an arranged marriage. 453 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: Arranged marriage. Does Naomi like him? 454 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Naomi likes power. I don't know 455 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: if you're caught up, but I'm not caught up. Okay, 456 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: she tries, she's trying her best. You know, Naomi is 457 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: as she's not quite as easy going as I am. 458 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: No, true, true, She's kind of a people's business, like 459 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: she likes the she's just. 460 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: A busy body. Like what I always say is like 461 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: she's very present, do you know what I mean. Like 462 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: she's like a little gnat, Like she's just kind of 463 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: taking it all in and very reactive to the moment 464 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: at hand. But like she doesn't really hold a grudge. 465 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: She's a little like a toddler in that way. Like 466 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 2: remember toddlers would like have a fit and you'd get 467 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: yell at you'd yell at them, and then two seconds 468 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: later they were like, can I have a string cheese? 469 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: Like there's no sort of like registering that that the 470 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: tantrum just happened. So I always say she's a little toddlery. 471 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: She's a little like Nelly Olsen from Oh My God. 472 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: Perfect comparison right with the ring it's so ringless. I 473 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 2: know she if she that's probably what she wore as 474 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: a girl. Oh yeah, little curls. 475 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: Little curls. What's been your favorite part of filming a 476 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: show like this? I mean, what an honor to be 477 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: able to bring this story to life. 478 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: I can't even like I can't even believe I get 479 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: to be on the show, Like I can't. I just 480 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: you know, this is like we're we're like we're in 481 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: a circus, Like we go from one gig to the next, 482 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: and summer for money and some are for art, and 483 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 2: you know, you sort of you piece me all this 484 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: thing together. And when I first read this show, I 485 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: read for a different role, which I didn't get, and 486 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 2: I was heartbroken because it was like the best pilot 487 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: I'd ever read. And then not soon after I was 488 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 2: I read for Naomi and I got the job, and 489 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: I really felt like people joke about this, but I 490 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: was like, I'll do anything like whatever you want me 491 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: to do on the show, Like I just I just 492 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: want to be there. And I got to work and 493 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: I had never seen you know, we shoot on the 494 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: actual location a lot, so it's very immersive. Like the 495 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: house was this giant, like twenty million dollar mansion in 496 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: the middle of a really posh area of Toronto, and 497 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: I just like everywhere I looked was like a handmaid 498 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: or a guy with a gun or something like. It 499 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: also makes your job a lot easier when it's that 500 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 2: immers and I don't know, I really believe in like 501 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: speaking up for people's rights and speaking up for injustices 502 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: and just saying the thing when you can say the thing, 503 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 2: and being a part of this show has definitely like 504 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: turned the volume up on my voice, and that is 505 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: not that's it's appreciated. I love that aspect about it 506 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: because also so much of being an actor is like 507 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: self serving. You know, it's fun job, Like look what 508 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: I get to do for a living, and so that 509 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: part of it really feels like it's like a cherry 510 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: on top of an already delicious Sunday. 511 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: When you say you get to use your voice now 512 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: what does that mean for you? 513 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: It means, you know, I can use an image from 514 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: The Handmaid's Tale, and then I can use an image 515 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: of children being separated from their parents at the border. 516 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: And I think that people will a lot of people 517 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 2: react and tell me I'm dramatic in a lib playing 518 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: and all these aws and and other people really see it, 519 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: and they run with that and they feel inspired to 520 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: also say something and yeah, I don't know where this 521 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: world is in a really tricky spot. And I think 522 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: that this show is a lot of things. It's beautiful, 523 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: it's creative, everybody's really good on it. The director's incredible, 524 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: the writing is top notch. But it's also like a 525 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: warning shot to open your eyes and pay attention to 526 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: the things that are happening around you. You know, there's 527 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: a great, a great quote which is like, even in 528 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: a slowly heating bathtub, you will eventually boil to death. 529 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: And that's like the heats up. I botched that quote 530 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: a little bit, but you get it. 531 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: No, I got it. 532 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Yeah that Margaret out with baby, Oh yeah, 533 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: that makes sense. 534 00:26:51,640 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Wow when you get that backlash, Yeah, from speaking of 535 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: what happens to you a few things. 536 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: Well, I don't really care, Like personally, I don't. I 537 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: don't give a shit to a shoot crap good, right, 538 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 2: But I have to like resist the temptation to like 539 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 2: say snarky things back if it's on the Internet. And 540 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: sometimes I do it and sometimes I don't. I don't 541 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: generally block people because I'm like, you know whatever, if 542 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: you guys want to duke it out here, duke it out. 543 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll maybe take a screenshot of a really horrible 544 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: comment and put it in my Instagram stories and be like, 545 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: this is what people are saying everybody. I guess that 546 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: would be shaming. Maybe I shame the haters, but you know, 547 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: first and foremost, like I don't, I'm rubber your glue. 548 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? I know well enough 549 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: to not to. 550 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: Not Wait, what's the whole expression. 551 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: I'm rubber your glue. Whatever you say bounces off me 552 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: and sticks to you. 553 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's that. Oh my god, I'm glad you clarify that. 554 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: I know, Thank you, Margaret. You've done a lot of 555 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: the things, but not that or what is it like 556 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: point a finger of me to point back at me, 557 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: like the whole the whole thing, like look, in the mirror, dude, 558 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's. 559 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: So so true, but you know when I see things 560 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, how do you read like people are 561 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: so quick to be cruel and the people that are. 562 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: Cruel have you ever noticed they're always like at MoMA 563 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: three with puppies, or like at Mama stay mama, or 564 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: these are made up names everybody, But yeah, there are 565 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: always people that are like light love in the Lord 566 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: that come at you and just call the most vile, 567 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: insane names. That's been my experience anyway. 568 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'm sure like just your cast in 569 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: general gets so much. I think because of the content. 570 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: People get a lot of it. And I also get 571 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: a like, you're you know what, You're an actress, stay 572 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: out of politics, And I'm like, what are talking about? 573 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm an American and I'm a woman, Like I'm just 574 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: as much as right to say something as every single 575 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: other person on this planet. 576 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: But there is interesting how they put you into that 577 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: category though. 578 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, oh, stain your lane, Like speaking by lane. 579 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: There's no lanes anymore? 580 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: What lane? What's the lane? 581 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: I know? But at the same time, I feel like 582 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: we're regressing having lanes again. 583 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: I know, we really are, and that's why it's so important. 584 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: I love that you have three daughters who I'm sure 585 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: use their voices whenever they can. Like it's just like, ugh. 586 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: That's a good sound effect, very much. You should really 587 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: do some yeah voiceover work. Maybe I don't know. Well, okay, 588 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: So when you're doing a show like Can't Maid's Tale 589 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: and you're you're talking about such heavy stuff every day 590 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: and the environment is oppressive in the in the context 591 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: of what you're what you're doing, the scenes, acting, whatever, 592 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: how does that feel to you at the end of 593 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: a work day. 594 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: It's yeah, I mean, here's the thing. This set is 595 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: not doesn't feel oppressive like the scenes do. And the 596 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: scenes are real, and I think that, you know, everyone 597 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: would agree that everybody on this show takes the work seriously, 598 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: but not themselves. Do you know what I mean? There's 599 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: levin he there's joy, there's laughter. I work with Bradley Whitford, 600 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: who like always keeps me laughing, which is such a 601 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: gift because sounds counterintuitive. But like to play Naomi and 602 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: to play that uptight, I kind of do need to 603 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: be relaxed, you know what I mean, Like, if ever 604 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: is uptight, then Naomi's gonna be. I don't know what 605 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: she's gonna be, but you know, uh, there have been 606 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: a lot of days with like a nice stiff drink 607 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: at the hotel bar. A walk in the fold in 608 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: Toronto goes a long way to decompress. 609 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: You walk along. Oh, you're in. 610 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 2: Toronto, Toronto. And the thing about this show also is 611 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: like there have been so many markers on this show. 612 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: Like I was there when Trump was elected. I was 613 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: there when Ukraine was invaded. I was there when Roe 614 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: was overturned. I always say I landed at Toronto Pearson 615 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: and by the time I got to my hotel room, 616 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: my son had more rights than my daughter. Biden was elected, 617 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: I was here, I was there for much of COVID, 618 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: and then I was there for another Trump election. So 619 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: there have been a lot of markers. And after the 620 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: election this year, I was alone and I actually went 621 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: to work. I didn't have to work that day, and 622 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: I was texting A. Vaughan and whoever else was on set, 623 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: and it was understandably like a really hard dark day, 624 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: and I just went to work to be around my people. 625 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good that you've all had those experiences together, though, 626 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: and such a bond. I'm sure it's great. 627 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: It's a really sorry that made me like choked up, 628 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: it's a really It's a genuinly lovely group of people, truly, 629 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: and they're all as kind as they are talented. 630 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I find myself in positions where people are always saying, 631 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: do you have anything for this auction? Do you have 632 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: any memorabilia? Did you steal anything from the set? Do 633 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: you have anything of Kelly Taylor's that you could we 634 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: could have or photograph or whatever? Did you have you 635 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: taken anything from the set? 636 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, So here's the like, I'm such a 637 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: like good girl. I didn't take it. I realized I 638 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: should have at the time, and then the person who 639 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: was to send it to me, I was like, can 640 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: you just ask forgiveness, not permission? You just put it 641 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: in the mail. So it's coming. And I have one 642 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: of Naomi's, you know, her capes like what we wear 643 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: outside when it was and like my favorite outfit, and 644 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: then some Naomi. I always liked her in really really 645 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: really tall heels because I just like her to feel 646 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: kind of like bony and towering over people, like it 647 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: just sort of has to a picture to me. So 648 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: I have a pair of her very very high shoes 649 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: as well. Did I take anything else? I don't think 650 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: I did. 651 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think. 652 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: I have anything else I should have twenty twenty right, 653 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: it really is. But Maddie, who plays my Handmaid, she 654 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: took her, she wrapped and just stuffed her red dress 655 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: right in her backpack and her bonnet and her eye 656 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: patch and got on a plane home. 657 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: Good for her, I know. 658 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: I was like, Maddie, I should have done that, But no, 659 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: mine's coming good. 660 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm so good. 661 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: So if I'm Naomi Putnam for Halloween, that's why I have. 662 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: I have my crossing ready, keep. 663 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: It forever, Keep it forever. They're going to do a sequel, right. 664 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: Well, they're doing. I'm not You should read that The Testaments, 665 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: which is her the testing Margarett would follow up to 666 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: The Handmaid's Tail. Oh, I got to read it follows 667 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: aunt Lydia. So I don't want to spoil anything. 668 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't know. I can't Lydia. 669 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't like her, but you need to talk to 670 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: a Dowd. And Dowd is like the best person in 671 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: the whole wide world. I'm sure absolute Lou greatest, the 672 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: great It's so funny, be good, so like living is 673 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: so intense, and then they all cut. She's like, how's 674 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: Kobe Darling? Like what She's just she's so yummy. I 675 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: love her. I love her. 676 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just I'm so happy for you and your 677 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: career's longevity, and you know, rooting for you for what's next. 678 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: I mean, thank you. I'll look back and you're like, 679 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: how am I? I don't know how? I'm fifty and 680 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, when did that happen? 681 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: That's right, you're in the fifty club. 682 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: I can get in the fifty club. I for myself 683 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: a nice big birthday party, but. 684 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, good for you, fifty, good for you? 685 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like fifty. I don't get it. 686 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: No, how did this happen? 687 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: Don't know? 688 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: Well, I just I follow you. I'll follow you. I'll 689 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: continue watching and supporting you always. 690 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: Oh it's quite a right. I'm excited for you to 691 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: see how this season shakes out, because they're right to 692 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: me too. Did stick the landing? I think? 693 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: Good? Perfect? Okay? Before I let you go? Ever, Carrodane, 694 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: what was your last I choose me moment? 695 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this a lot. 696 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: Good and I have two on me. 697 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: My I choose me is my garden. I don't have 698 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: a gardener. I do our gardening. I do our planting. 699 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: I do our trimming, and so like, if I find 700 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: myself sort of in the La crazies or spinning, I 701 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: will just put my gardening gloves on and my clogs 702 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: and prune and weed and we have sort of like 703 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: a little English garden and I'm proud of it and 704 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: I love how it makes me feel. The other day 705 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: I did it barefoot. I was like, maybe that'll be 706 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: like grounding. Maybe that's like yeah thing or something like that. 707 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: And then the other thing I did I sort of 708 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: was it's so funny when someone's like, what's your choose 709 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 2: me and you're like, I don't know. I have kids, 710 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: I choose them. 711 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people say. 712 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: But at the end of twenty twenty three, I sort of, 713 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: you know, everyone on social media posts like these are 714 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: the books I read this year and Obama's list, and 715 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: I'm like Obama at fifty five books, Like what am 716 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: I doing with my time? So at the beginning of 717 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: twenty four I started a book group and the goal 718 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: was a book a month, and the book group is 719 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: kicking ass, and it's this incredible group of like it's 720 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: like ten to fifteen of us. We meet every month 721 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 2: and we read a book or two a month and 722 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: it's totally awesome and it is a non negotiable. I 723 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: have book group on the first Wednesday of every month period. 724 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 2: End of story. 725 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: That's my I love that. Who's in your book group? 726 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: Who's in my book group? But there's a lot of 727 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: people in my book. Girl you might know as Meredith 728 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: Salinger is in my book group, meredithal And then a 729 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: lot of moms who I've met over the years, either 730 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: through preschool or school. And then some other women in 731 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: the book group brought in a friend and we all 732 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: just sort of mesh, great, it's been really it's I 733 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: highly recommend a book. 734 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: What book are you reading right now? Then? 735 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 2: Currently we are reading two books because we're we're like that, I. 736 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: Know, we're reading over Achievers. I know. 737 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: We just read East of et In, So we're sort 738 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: of revisiting some classics, which if you haven't read, I really. 739 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: It's been a million it's really good. 740 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: We read it during the fires and it's really a 741 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: love letter to California. We're reading House of mirth. And 742 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: then we're reading a collection of essays by a friend 743 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: called Mothers and Other Fictional Characters, which is also wonderful. 744 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: And I know the author, Nicole, and so she's going 745 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 2: to zoom in at our next book group and we're 746 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: all going to get to kind of chat with her 747 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 2: about her memoir. 748 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's exciting, fun, right, it's fun. I love it 749 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: that you did that. I heard that if you read 750 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: a book for even twenty minutes a day, it has 751 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: such significant help of your mental health. 752 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and like you know a lot of us, I 753 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: feel like, and I say this with no judgment, like 754 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 2: end of the day, I'd be sitting on the chair 755 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: looking at my. 756 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: Phone and I was like scrolling. 757 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: Oh, but I want my kids to see me doing 758 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: so I really make an effort to just at the 759 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: end of the day for fifteen minutes or chapter and 760 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: just sit out there and then if they need something, 761 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: they come out when they find me, I have a 762 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: book in my hand and my phone. 763 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: I love that. You just inspired me. Thank you. I'm 764 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: going to pick up a book instead of my phone 765 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: today when I have it like ten minutes. 766 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: Do it do you want? Do you need a book? Recommend. 767 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: Uh No, I'm behind. 768 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: You like I have plenty. I know that's how my 769 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: qistand is. I don't know. I'm a capacity. 770 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: No more book, no more room in the book in Yeah, 771 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: but thank you so much for being on and I 772 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: know everybody's going to just love our chat. 773 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you so much for having me. 774 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: We'll see you all right, take care of R bye, 775 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: Danny Biever