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Speaker 1: Welcome to America now, Mr garbutsch Off, tear down this wall.

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Speaker 1: Either you're with us where you were with the terrorists.

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Speaker 1: If you got healthcare already, then you can keep your plan.

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Speaker 1: If you're satisfied with the Trump is not. When the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States take it to a bank together,

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Speaker 1: we will make America great again. Well sharender, It's what

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Speaker 1: you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with America

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Speaker 1: What a week, my friends, What a week it has been,

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Speaker 1: What a day it's been. I will go this morning.

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Speaker 1: I was like, maybe it'll be a little more chilled

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Speaker 1: as as you have no doubt heard President Trump fired

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Speaker 1: the FBI to actor James Comby, and media has gone

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Speaker 1: is it's Watergate. It's worse than Watergate. It's a constitutional crisis,

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Speaker 1: They by the way, we also will be talking today

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Speaker 1: Give you details on that. One of an expert joining

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Speaker 1: later on. UM. We'll also be talking about Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, Yay Hillary Time. We'll have Hillary Clinton joining.

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Speaker 1: Here's what happened this morning. They got everybody all fired up.

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Speaker 1: Hollywood hacking victims surprising advice, pay the ransom. That's usually

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Speaker 1: what you know, you usually don't hear that, right, but

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Speaker 1: now we're being told no. The FBI is like, look,

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Speaker 1: you've got to evaluate the damage to your files versus

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Speaker 1: how much you gotta pay. Well, what do you make

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Speaker 1: of that? That's that's the world that we live in today. Unfortunately, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have solid backups of your

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Speaker 1: information and the only way that you can recovery your business,

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Speaker 1: um or your organization is paying the ransom, that's the advisement. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a security professional, you know it alarms

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Speaker 1: me because you know, obviously we don't want to be

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Speaker 1: giving these folks money because they're going to continue to developer,

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Speaker 1: can continue to expand their capabilities and make these you know, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, ransomware pieces a much larger problem. No one

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Speaker 1: paid their ransom, period, there wouldn't be a ransomware market.

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Speaker 1: Are wouldn't be as large as it is today. But

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately in order for businesses to operate. Um. They are

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Speaker 1: suggesting to pay it um in order to to get

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Speaker 1: your files back and to get your business up and running.

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Speaker 1: And you know, most of the time, you know they

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Speaker 1: these are full fledged businesses. I mean a lot of

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Speaker 1: times they have helped us. You can actually communicate with

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Speaker 1: people to that to help you pay with the bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are full fledged businesses that obviously doing

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Speaker 1: things illegally, um, but you know they they will usually

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Speaker 1: give you your files back, UM. So it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a business to them. They're making us a substantial amount

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Speaker 1: of money. We're talking billions of dollars of money um

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Speaker 1: that is passing through these ransomware schemes. UM. It's it's

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Speaker 1: one of the largest problems that we face today right

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Speaker 1: now and through quote corporations, is the ability to protect

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Speaker 1: against it. End By the way, Bitcoin, uh, just people

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Speaker 1: that are listening to tell I know that it's it's

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Speaker 1: digital currency. We've talked about it here a little bit

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Speaker 1: on the show before. But how would somebody pay a

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Speaker 1: ransom in bitcoin? And also does that make it virtually

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Speaker 1: untraceable for the you know, so the bad guys can

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Speaker 1: stockpile this stuff and it's a lot harder to know,

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Speaker 1: and they're clearly not just opening up a bank account

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Speaker 1: somewhere and saying send it here, right, So how does

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Speaker 1: that work? Well, that's that's actually why we've seen such

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Speaker 1: a large increase in ransomware. UM. It is really due

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Speaker 1: to um, you know, the online currency that we see

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Speaker 1: with bitcoin today because UM, you know what the FBI

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Speaker 1: used to be able to do very easily, UM is

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Speaker 1: do money laundering tracking, you know, track where the money

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Speaker 1: is going to and be able to find where the

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Speaker 1: bad guys are at UM, it becomes virtually impossible on

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Speaker 1: online currency. The whole infrastructure is designed to essentially make

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Speaker 1: you make you anonymous that you can't track where the

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Speaker 1: money is going to and where you're being able to

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Speaker 1: pull it out from. UM. So it makes law enforcement

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Speaker 1: very difficult to go and have the bad guys now, UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, specifically because of this, and you know, bitcoin

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Speaker 1: isn't necessarily the most user intuitive UM you know currency

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Speaker 1: to be able to go and pay things, but you know,

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Speaker 1: these attackers give you step by step instructions of what

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Speaker 1: you need to do in order to pay through bitcoin. UM.

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Speaker 1: There are ways of using your credit card. There are

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Speaker 1: ways of doing wire transfers, you know, things like that

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Speaker 1: to purchase bitcoins on the bitcoin market and then transfer

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Speaker 1: to specific people, um you know that will eventually receive

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Speaker 1: the money. Once they confirmed that, they usually give you

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Speaker 1: your encryption key and then you can decrypt holliphiles themselves. Um.

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Speaker 1: But you know, bitcoin itself has made made it made

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Speaker 1: it for law enforcement, you know, extremely difficult to go

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Speaker 1: and and track, and it's you know, ransomware is is

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Speaker 1: definitely one of the largest, um growing markets that we

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Speaker 1: see in the hacking industry. I mean, you have you know,

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Speaker 1: really good hackers that are really good at programming, you know,

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Speaker 1: essentially licensing software to maybe not as good hackers that

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Speaker 1: are trying to send mass campaigns out to infect people

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Speaker 1: and see if these really good hackers making a ton

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Speaker 1: of money off of a whole distribution network, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: to to be able to go and get a larger

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Speaker 1: you know, pay out from these from these types of hackers.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's growing every day. Definitely a huge pandemic

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing in the security industry. We're speaking to

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Speaker 1: David Kennedy, hacking expert and founder and CEO of trusted

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Speaker 1: sect David. The inevitable question after an incident like this is, uh,

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Speaker 1: what can we do to stop this and prevent this?

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Speaker 1: But even from a layman's perspective, someone like me, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: my guest, this is gonna be like when there's a

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Speaker 1: low level or when there's just a terrorist attack somewhere

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Speaker 1: that is low skill, low level, low planning, and people say,

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Speaker 1: how do we stop it? On? Like, it's very hard

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Speaker 1: to stop this might require some technical know how to

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Speaker 1: do this hacking, but I'm also assuming there's not that

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Speaker 1: much you can really do other than just well, you

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Speaker 1: tell me, what what can you do to try to

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Speaker 1: protect yourself? And what can the government do to try

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Speaker 1: to stop this and also track these people down? That's

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Speaker 1: a great question. UM. You know, for for home users, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're using Microsoft Windows, is helly recommended

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Speaker 1: that you go to your Windows Update settings and update

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Speaker 1: your systems right now? UM? That will? That will the

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Speaker 1: Microsoft has released a patch UM that fixes this specific

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Speaker 1: one that doesn't prevent you know, all ransom where UM,

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Speaker 1: just this specific one. UM. You know, for your home users,

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Speaker 1: you know you need to be really careful on what

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Speaker 1: you're clicking on things that you're downloading. UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: attackers try to entice people with urgency like hey, you're

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Speaker 1: your Amazon package has been rerouted, or you need to

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Speaker 1: click this immediately because your credit card was declined. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are different tactics that people use. UM,

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Speaker 1: So be careful of where you're getting emails from. Check

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Speaker 1: that that what we call the domain where the where

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Speaker 1: the actual emails coming from with the linkers from, and

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Speaker 1: make sure it's actually coming from Adobe, your Microsoft for

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Speaker 1: Amazon or whomever is claiming it. Now for for corporations, UM,

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Speaker 1: it becomes extremely difficult UM, you know, to to protect

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Speaker 1: against these, because corporations are getting hit all the time

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Speaker 1: with with user based attacks and user based attacks are

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Speaker 1: where um, most of these attackers are really coming from.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, we we have in the security

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Speaker 1: industry we call a defense in depth strategy, which is

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Speaker 1: multiple layers of defense to try to prohibit these from running.

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Speaker 1: And it is possible a lot of companies have, you know,

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Speaker 1: a very good security posture, but it requires having a

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Speaker 1: good understanding around the types of protections that you need

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Speaker 1: in order to really prevent ransomware. You know, we do

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Speaker 1: assessments all the time for corporations trying to identify exactly

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Speaker 1: you know, what's the best rout for them to be

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Speaker 1: able to protect against these types of attacks and what

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Speaker 1: they need to do to successfully protect these in the future.

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Speaker 1: And there there are, you know, methods of being able

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Speaker 1: to go and do that. It just requires having an

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Speaker 1: understanding around around these methods. Um. The last point on

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Speaker 1: that is the government piece. You know that the government really,

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Speaker 1: um unfortunately can't protect us in the United States from this.

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Speaker 1: You know that, you know, the n s AS is

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Speaker 1: tasked with foreign intelligence. You know, the FBI and c

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Speaker 1: A have different missions. Um. You know, the FBI most

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Speaker 1: specifically is the ones that are that are trying to

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Speaker 1: go after this, but it takes them several several years

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Speaker 1: to even go after some of the bad guys. I

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Speaker 1: mean you're talking once they know exactly where they're coming from,

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Speaker 1: and they have to slip off. I mean, they have

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Speaker 1: to mess up once, you know, for these for for

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Speaker 1: the FBI to go and find them, and it takes

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Speaker 1: a lot to that to happen, a lot of workforce

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Speaker 1: and manpower. You know, it takes years and years and

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Speaker 1: years of paperwork, extradition laws, you know, everything that you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with to actually go naby thees bad guys. Um,

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Speaker 1: so your your chances of getting busted as a hacker

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Speaker 1: is extremely low right now, unfortunately, which is why you've

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Speaker 1: seen such a big boom in this. So unfortunately, not

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Speaker 1: gonna see much in the S government. It's really up

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Speaker 1: to us to try to protect ourselves. And I'm assuming,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if the hacker is in like Russia,

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Speaker 1: I mean, not to always speak, not to be adding

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Speaker 1: to the Russia scarymongering. They're they're not even yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: not even gonna extradite, right, so you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: not getting them. Most of them are tied to the government.

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Speaker 1: Most of them are tied to the government. Well that's

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Speaker 1: even scarier. But yeah, there's there's nothing there. So so

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Speaker 1: this is a scam that's working for people to enrich

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Speaker 1: themselves and it's unlikely they'll be consequences for it. And look,

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Speaker 1: this this is really this is scary stuff. This is

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Speaker 1: once they start shutting down hospitals, I mean, just the

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Speaker 1: last one for you, David, I mean, how much worse

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Speaker 1: can this get? I mean, what are some of the

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Speaker 1: once they're shutting down hospital networks? I feel like we're

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Speaker 1: entering a new phase here where hackers are going to

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Speaker 1: be literally holding people's lives hostages and not just their data. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is something that you know, the security

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Speaker 1: industry has been warning about for several years. We've been

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of research in the medical field specifically

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Speaker 1: and around UM what we call UM you know, industrial

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Speaker 1: control systems and water shreatment facilities, you know what we

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Speaker 1: call critical infrastructure. And it's really really vulnerable right now.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we're we're out here saying hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: you've got all these issues right now. And unfortunately these

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Speaker 1: organizations UM haven't been taking security a seriously. Hospitals are

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Speaker 1: the worst when it comes to security, like literally one

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Speaker 1: of the worst when it comes to to actually protecting

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Speaker 1: information as well as protecting you know, loss of life systems. UM.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the the the private sector and in hospitals, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, industrial control systems, manufacturing companies, they need to

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Speaker 1: do a much better job at security. They have to

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Speaker 1: do a better job. And hopefully, you know, Unford, this

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Speaker 1: is an unfortune situation. This is in no issue performing

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Speaker 1: condoning of it. But hopefully this is a route awakening

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Speaker 1: UM to this to these specific industries that they need

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Speaker 1: to step up and they need to do more to

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Speaker 1: protect their patients. David Kennedy is hacking is a hacking

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Speaker 1: expert and founder and CEO of Trusted Sec. David, excellent

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Speaker 1: stuff for me today. Thank you so much for calling

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Speaker 1: in and we'll have you back. We appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me to take care of a good

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Speaker 1: day and hopefully some people get some sleep. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: thank you, sir. Uh team. We're going to hit a

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Speaker 1: quick break here, but it is Friday. We got news

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We got action movie quotes. If you

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom. My friend. What is up, book Sexton?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? My friends? Shield? Hime, my friend shield,

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Speaker 1: Hi buddy, I'm good. What's up? Hey? I have a

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Speaker 1: little theory for you that I would like to run

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Speaker 1: by you. As I believe that this isn't really about

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Speaker 1: Trump I believe, or President Trump, I should say. I

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Speaker 1: believe that this is because the Democrats, the leftists are

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Speaker 1: not in Hi. Hillary is not in office. I believe

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Speaker 1: that this everything that's going on right now. Would be

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Speaker 1: happening if it were President Cruz, if it were President Carson,

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Speaker 1: if it were President fi Ana or the governor of

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Speaker 1: my state, you know, president k oh, gosh, no good

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Speaker 1: heavens no, yeah, yeah, no, no, don't even don't even

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Speaker 1: speak such. This is like Valdemore. Don't even say it. No, no, no, no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you know what I want to I'd love to

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Speaker 1: take Kasick out myself, Phil, But you know, we got

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Speaker 1: what we got. But I think that this really isn't

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Speaker 1: about Trump. Is it's just about I did hear that

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party does want one party rule. They want it,

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Speaker 1: they want it, they want rule over all of us.

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Speaker 1: They want to silence people like you. They want to

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Speaker 1: silence people like several others that some of whom you

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Speaker 1: have been a guest holes for. Uh yeah, well since

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Speaker 1: since I've guess hosted for Glenn Rush and Sean Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got there's a there are a few folks there

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Speaker 1: that that the Left would love to silence. For sure.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, and you're one. You're You're one of

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Speaker 1: the highest ones. I just wanted to let you know that, Uh,

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Speaker 1: uh the Buck Sex and dot com thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We we haven't started it. We we haven't started it yet,

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Speaker 1: but when we do, you'll be receiving it. But we're

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Speaker 1: we're it's in the works. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of projects flying around the same time. But

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Speaker 1: Tommy in Ohio, thank you for calling in my friend

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Speaker 1: Shields high appreciate it. Um. So what else, oh, I

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Speaker 1: we've had? We had? Do we have Lauren on this show?

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Speaker 1: We had her on this show? Right? Okay, so I

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Speaker 1: can't remember always if we've had a guest here on

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Speaker 1: on Buck Sex of American Hour, if it's just from

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show in the past. There's a young

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Speaker 1: lady with a very substantial social media following, and she

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Speaker 1: used to be now she's just an independent journalist. Used

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Speaker 1: to be affiliated with the Rebel dot TV. I think,

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Speaker 1: which is the Canadian Is that right, right? Rebel dot Media? Yeah? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Close enough? Um, which is the successor organization? I think

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Speaker 1: to Sun News, which was the Canadian ants or the

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Speaker 1: Canadian version of either Fox News or The Blaze, depending

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Speaker 1: on who you talk to. But Lauren Southern I saw

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Speaker 1: this on heat Street dot Com. Now she is according

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Speaker 1: to heat Streets. We'll have to see if she'll come

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Speaker 1: on the show. This is this is Wow, she's traveling

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Speaker 1: for this stuff. Uh. She was detained by the Italian Coastguard.

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Speaker 1: Chaw Like, you know, I can see them with a

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Speaker 1: little motor boat and everything going around and schools. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the Italian Coast Guard detained her from heat

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Speaker 1: Street after she was caught trying to stop refugee sl

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Speaker 1: migrant boats from coming into the country. She was in

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Speaker 1: a boat with a group called Generation Generation Identity, which

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Speaker 1: is a right wing anti immigration French youth group, attempting

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Speaker 1: to physically block boats full of people coming from North Africa.

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Speaker 1: They were joined by others from multiple European countries, including

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Speaker 1: Italy and Austria. Uh. And so it says it's basically

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Speaker 1: the alt right version of animal planets whale wars. Wow,

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Speaker 1: she's at a boat off the coast of Italy trying

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Speaker 1: to stop migrant boats from coming in. How does that

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Speaker 1: do they? Like? Do they ram the boats? How do

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Speaker 1: they do that? Um? But she's been detained by the

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Speaker 1: h That's quite a story. You know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: they're being detained by the Italian Coast Guard. You probably

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Speaker 1: sit there with an artisan, incredibly soft maybe even like

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Speaker 1: silk blend blanket across your shoulders and a tiny cup

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Speaker 1: of incredible espresso, and everyone's just like, hey, you come

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Speaker 1: for you. You look at espresso and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's great. I'm sure the Italian Coast

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Speaker 1: Guard has some fantastic hospitality. I'm just saying eight four

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Speaker 1: We have a story to talk about in a few

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Speaker 1: minutes here that involves your favorite Hillary Clinton. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, stay with me. He spreads freedom because freedom

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Speaker 1: is not gonna spread itself. Buck sext in his bag,

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Speaker 1: cut saved in West Virginia on w w v A

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Speaker 1: on the line, what's up, how are you? I'm good,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in. UM I ain't just wanted

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Speaker 1: to say a few words about Coby. What what I

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Speaker 1: think should have happened when President Trump took over was

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Speaker 1: every Democrat should have been tired, just like the previous

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Speaker 1: as of them fired, every every lawyer was cleaning house

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Speaker 1: for the U. S. Attorneys. Is is standard operating procedure,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you know say it. I would also

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Speaker 1: add that we tell ourselves that it's because of enforcement priorities.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot of that is a

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Speaker 1: convenient little fiction because we don't really want to grapple

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Speaker 1: with the truth. And the truth is that, uh, the

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Speaker 1: d o J is a political instrument now, just like

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Speaker 1: the Congress is, and just like everything else in the

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Speaker 1: government is exactly and I think the the FBI has

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Speaker 1: been turned into one and uh and that's the shame

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Speaker 1: of it. Uh. Um. I'm ex military, but I was

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Speaker 1: in military long, long time ago, back in the fifties

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Speaker 1: and sixties, and uh, things were a whole lot different then. Um.

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Speaker 1: But to listen the way the uh, the military days

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Speaker 1: doing things, and particularly once Obama fired all of the generals.

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Speaker 1: He fired generals right and left. It was crazy. I

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Speaker 1: remember there was was it General McCrystal was fired because

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Speaker 1: of a rolling stone piece, uh, and in which someone

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Speaker 1: said something that wasn't that nice about Obama's capabilities as

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Speaker 1: a commander in chief of the military. And they fired McCrystal,

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Speaker 1: who was one of the uh considered to be a

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Speaker 1: lot of this. It's it's tough to know at that

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Speaker 1: level with the military brass who's just good at cultivating

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Speaker 1: relationships with the reporters and who is truly the who's

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Speaker 1: truly a great military mind. But mc crystal was very

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Speaker 1: was widely respected. I knew people uh in in the

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Speaker 1: in the military that you know that I know and trust,

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Speaker 1: and they thought that he was a very sharp guy.

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Speaker 1: And they yeah, they can McCrystal because of it wasn't

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Speaker 1: even that bad. I can't remember what it was. But

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Speaker 1: whatever they said up, whatever he said about Obama. Well,

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Speaker 1: and another thing too, the I don't know whether it's

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Speaker 1: whether it's just abysmal ignorance of the left or what,

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Speaker 1: but history is so easy to find and to know

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But everything that bring up it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a big lie, and and it's so easily provable,

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Speaker 1: and I can't understand why they just keep doing it

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Speaker 1: when we can prove their lying. And when Trump said

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Speaker 1: the fake news and then proved that, everybody says, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's no such things like that, but he's right again, Well,

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Speaker 1: if there are no consequences, if there's no consequences for lying,

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Speaker 1: lying actually becomes a very effective political tool. And look,

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Speaker 1: lying is is a is a constant part of politics,

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Speaker 1: even in in happier and more sane times. But these

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Speaker 1: days it feels like there's way too much of it

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Speaker 1: going on. But say, thank you for calling in. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good talk to you from West Virginia. All right, um,

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Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation, Now I'm not I'm not doing What

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Speaker 1: about is um here where we divert? And this is

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Speaker 1: a common tactic, right where you divert from something you

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Speaker 1: don't want to discuss to something that you'd rather discuss.

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Speaker 1: And this is a common a common tactic you'll see

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Speaker 1: in a lot of the different media outlets when there's

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Speaker 1: a story that host isn't that into, they'll just say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, what about so and so or what about

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Speaker 1: what this person did? Or what about that? Um? The Clinton?

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton is no longer well, I don't know. Actually

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Speaker 1: she might run for something again. I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: she's no longer a viable political candidate. But in this

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Speaker 1: this time, you know, this day and age, who knows,

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Speaker 1: you know, she may she may run for mayor in

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Speaker 1: New York. I don't think she could run for a

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Speaker 1: third time to be president. I think the entitlement factor

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Speaker 1: and the sense that she's the only person the Democrats

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Speaker 1: can run for president other than Obama over the course

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Speaker 1: of of gosh, how how many electoral cycles. Um, but

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Speaker 1: she still is a very important player in Democrats circle.

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Speaker 1: She still has a lot of sway And UM, I

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Speaker 1: haven't forgotten and I'm sure you haven't either, what was

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Speaker 1: going on with the Clinton Foundation. Had a little quick

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Speaker 1: review here Clinton Foundation for helping people know it's really

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Speaker 1: not it's a giant, uh slush funds that was being

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Speaker 1: operated for the benefit of the Clinton family and their cronies.

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Speaker 1: And this is where we get into the what about

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Speaker 1: is And because I know that people will say, uh,

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Speaker 1: people will say that this isn't a fair comparison. But

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Speaker 1: I think part of why the criticism of the Trump's

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Speaker 1: and the Trump family and their continued business interests because

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Speaker 1: the media is always ah, you know, Jared Kushner had

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Speaker 1: a meeting at this place, or there's a Chinese investor

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Speaker 1: in this deal, and Jared Kushner spoke to the Chinese reason.

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Speaker 1: They're always trying to push this and uh, you can't

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Speaker 1: use previous bad behavior to excuse all future behavior that

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Speaker 1: could be construed as similar. But when you look at

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Speaker 1: what the Clintons were doing and how the media was

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Speaker 1: just playing so dumb on this. You know, you should

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Speaker 1: go back and just watch some of the debates that

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Speaker 1: were had, or even better, some of the the straight

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Speaker 1: news cover bridge of the Clinton Foundation over the course

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Speaker 1: of the election, and just you know, reporters were acting

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Speaker 1: like they couldn't put two and two together. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're like, well, you know, sure, you know, Hillary was

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Speaker 1: looking at this Russian company's ability to get of the

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Speaker 1: U s uranium stockpile, and and the Russian bank was

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Speaker 1: paying her husband five dred thousand dollars first or maybe

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Speaker 1: was eight hundred thousand dollars, might have been eight hundred,

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Speaker 1: but it was definitely at least five hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: for a speech at the time. But I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: not a conflict of interest there. I mean, sure, the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation is running around and taking huge sums of

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Speaker 1: money from foreign governments while Hillary Clinton is Secretary of

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Speaker 1: State and they're not disclosing this, and they weren't initially

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Speaker 1: disclosing the numbers, and then they gave ranges on some

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Speaker 1: of it. Uh, it's sure that you know that maybe,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a big deal, right, That's what they

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Speaker 1: eventually came back to that it's just not that big

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Speaker 1: of a deal. And it really is. The Clinton's managed

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Speaker 1: to They pollute so many things, but they polluted charitable giving.

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Speaker 1: They made charitable giving a dodge. They made it a hustle,

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Speaker 1: a scam, a scheme in order to one fund the

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Speaker 1: Clinton lifestyle and for us downers, of course, with a

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Speaker 1: tax break involved, uh to fund their travel all over

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Speaker 1: the world and to be a a really an untaxed

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Speaker 1: and unregulated superpack for all things Clinton under the guise

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Speaker 1: of oh, we're doing all this fantastic work around the world.

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Speaker 1: And with five minutes on the Clinton Foundation website, I

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Speaker 1: spent some time poking around on the on the various

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation projects. You'd see that everything that they are

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Speaker 1: committed to in one form or another, it's kind of nebulous,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's murky. It's it's like, well, you know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna help We're gonna help women in poverty around

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Speaker 1: the world, all right, what does that mean? If you

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Speaker 1: say you're going to build wells for people so they

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Speaker 1: have clean drinking water in a portion of sub Saharan Africa,

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Speaker 1: you can tell your donors, well, we we put up

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Speaker 1: a thousand wells, right or we there are metrics you

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Speaker 1: can be gauged by, and people therefore can also know

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Speaker 1: how much of the money they're donating to you is

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Speaker 1: really going to what would and what a normal person

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Speaker 1: would consider to be charitable projects, like I'm No Stranger,

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Speaker 1: by the way that the games that people play with charity.

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Speaker 1: You know here in in New York City, where a

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Speaker 1: lot of them are an excuse to throw a party. Look,

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Speaker 1: if you throw a great party, but you raise a

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Speaker 1: ton of money for a good cause, more power to you.

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Speaker 1: But there have been some charitable foundations that were clearly

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Speaker 1: just a front for throwing parties, funding the lifestyle that

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Speaker 1: people involved, giving out not necessarily no show but low

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Speaker 1: show meaning incredibly stress free and pretty easy jobs to people, um,

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Speaker 1: giving people board seats on charity. So so charity is

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00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, there are real charities. Right at the International

852
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: Red Cross, and you sit and you go through all

853
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: the different real charities that are out there that are

854
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: doing great things for people and and should be applauded

855
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: in our and are fantastic places to donate money. But

856
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: then there's the there're more the social charity, and then

857
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: there's social political charity, and that's the Clinton Foundation was

858
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: it was a like I said, it was a scam,

859
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: and it was so obviously a scam. They raised I

860
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: think it was two billion dollars by the time Hillary

861
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: was was running, and that's a lot of money. They

862
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: spent something like fifty million dollars on travel for employees,

863
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: which is a lot of flying around on private jets.

864
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: And there are all kinds of ways that you know,

865
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: the Clintons would fly somewhere at a private jet do

866
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: some Clinton Foundation business, and then it's a and they

867
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: write it off as oh, well that's Clinton Foundation. Well

868
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: that's a great way to fund your you know it

869
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: to fund your travel all over the world. Right, anytime

870
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: you raise all this money in this huge slush fund,

871
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: and then when you want to go somewhere, you just

872
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: call somebody up or you say we're gonna have a

873
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: luncheon to talk about Clinton Foundation business. And now you know,

874
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: maybe a hundred fifty thousand dollar flight on a private

875
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: jet is the foundation's expense. So these are the kind

876
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: of games they're playing. Media was like, good, I don't understand.

877
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the charity, you don't you know what,

878
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: I can figure this out, you know, and Hillary. She's like,

879
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: I love people. I'm a people a person. You know,

880
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: she was just being Hillary. That's why she didn't win.

881
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: They can tell you it's Russia and it's calling me

882
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: all day, but really she didn't win because it's Hillary.

883
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm a pace on people person. Uh. But we've got

884
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: some reporting here. I get so into the clint to

885
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: think that I forget there's there's a there's a news story,

886
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: you know what. I actually let me, let me hit

887
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: this break, and I want to tell you about some

888
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: solid evidence that we can present that not only was

889
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation largely just a scam for the Clintons

890
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: and their brand, and that was the impetus behind this

891
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: whole thing. And it's just disgraceful what was able to

892
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: go what was allowed to go on there, but the

893
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: pay for play accusations or the the accusations of corruption

894
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: that were um implied by so many or were made

895
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: but without hard evidence of a specific quid pro quo,

896
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: which is usually necessary for real corruption charges. Uh. Well,

897
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: the banglad actually Prime Minister has come out here and

898
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: we've got a piece by our friend Sarah Carter over

899
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: at CIRCA News banglad actually Prime Minister says that Hillary

900
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Clinton personally pressured her to take action on behalf of

901
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: a Clinton Foundation donor while Clinton was Secretary of State.

902
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: This would be considered a big no no. I will

903
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: give you the details. So Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation,

904
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: my friends, we knew that there was influence being peddled.

905
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: It was obvious, right, We knew that there's massive charity

906
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: was a front. Not entirely. I'm sure they gave grants,

907
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: they gave some percentage of the money they raised overall

908
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: to real charities and did some good things. Um, but

909
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't excuse any corruption or any influence peddling that

910
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: may have been going on alongside that. Think of it

911
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: this way. If you're operating a grocery store, but out

912
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: of the back, you're you're selling uh, you know, copious

913
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: amounts of weed. Um, that's still a problem. Right. Just

914
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: because you're doing a nice, honorable, uh legal thing in

915
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: the front doesn't mean that it can be a you know,

916
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: a party or illegal stuff going on in the back.

917
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: So um, so that you know that, you you look

918
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: at the Clinton Foundation and you can tell that something

919
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: is up. You know that there's some issue going on.

920
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the Bangladeshi Prime Minister. For a second,

921
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: shall we This is from our friend Sarah Carter over

922
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: at Circa News, while second is a quote from the piece.

923
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: While Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made a personal call

924
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: to pressure Bangladesh's Prime minister to aid a donor to

925
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: her husband's charitable foundation, despite federal ethics laws that require

926
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: government officials to recuse themselves from matters that could impact

927
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: their spouses business. The office of Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheik

928
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: Hassina confirmed to Circa that Mrs Clinton called her office

929
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: in March to demand that Dr Mohammed Units, at two

930
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: thousand and six Nobel Peace Prize winner be restored to

931
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: his role as chairman of the country's most famous micro

932
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: crew at Bank Gramman Bank. The bank's nonprofit GRAMM in America,

933
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: which Units chairs, has given between a hundred thousand and

934
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand to the Clinton Global Initiative.

935
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: Grammin Research, which is chaired by Units, has donated between

936
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand and fifty thousand, according to the Clinton

937
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Foundation website. Uh so, you know you're talking about a

938
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: real chunk of change here that has been donated to

939
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: the Clinton Global initiative, which oh, I should note has

940
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: been shut down. Isn't that interesting that happened right after

941
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: Hillary lost the election. By the way, let's zero in

942
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: on that for a second, shall we, And let's review

943
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: this little bit of news here on on circuit dot com.

944
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Uh So, the acting or sorry, the secretary a lot

945
00:52:55,160 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: of acting, you know, acting attorney general, acting FBI director,

946
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: a lot of that. This week, the former Secretary of State,

947
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton got on the phone and tried to keep

948
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: this guy in a job that he wasn't supposed to

949
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: be in and tried to pressure the Prime Minister of Bangladesh,

950
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: UM country in South Asia nestled up to the northeast

951
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: of India, UM formerly called East Pakistan. Can talk with

952
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: us another day. But when when India split, it split

953
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: into three country, Oh, it's split into three main countries,

954
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: East Pakistan and West Pakistan. UM were the names of

955
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: the countries originally, and then East Pakistan became Bangladesh later

956
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: in Pakistan is still Pakistan. And you have very tense

957
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: relations obviously between India and Pakistan that continued to this day.

958
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: And that separation was incredibly bloody, and there was a

959
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: lot there were programs anti Hindu and anti Muslim and

960
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of violence back in the days of

961
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: partition after the Second World War. Maybe worth getting into

962
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: history for another day. Just it's interesting stuff. Uh, brutal, rough,

963
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: but historically very noteworthy. All right, back to Bangladesh here, Um,

964
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: the prime minister gets a call from Hillary Clinton, who says, hey,

965
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: this guy needs to stay on his role as chairman

966
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: of this micro credit bank. Micro Credit, by the way,

967
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: is a big thing in the international community for helping

968
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: developing countries. It's it's a very um, uh you know,

969
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: very interesting situation where you well, I don't have to

970
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: get into what micro credit is for right now. UM,

971
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: I just want to say that this is there's a

972
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: lot of people talk about this and it's uh considered

973
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: kind of a a do gooder and internationalist field. But

974
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: this guy was probably making some decent money being the

975
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: head of this bank. Point here is that he's a

976
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: donor to the Clinton Foundation. And Hillary Clinton is getting

977
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: on the phone and saying that this guy he's beyond

978
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: the age limit. The age limit is sixty and he's

979
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: seventy years old. And this Hillary Clinton's trying to pressure

980
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: a prime minister of a foreign country into making a

981
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: decision that directly benefits someone who is a donor to

982
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation. This isn't This is a clear ethical lapse,

983
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: And this is what many of us were sure was

984
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: happening all along while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State

985
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: and had set up things like the Clinton Global Initiative,

986
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: which closed soon after as I said, was was shuttered

987
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: soon after Hillary didn't win the election. Um, because it

988
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: was set up mostly to tackle quote, international problems, so

989
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: that there could be all these international donors that could

990
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: give money to something and it would be slightly separate

991
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: from the larger Clinton Foundation pool of cash. It but

992
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: and it was addressing very uh broad stuff. You know,

993
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: let's address women's education on a global level. To address

994
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 1: women's education is is kind of like saying let's address well,

995
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: it would be like saying we're gonna fix poverty global level.

996
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: Good luck. That's gonna be a pretty big ask. Um.

997
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Now I know what people are gonna say about this, Oh,

998
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't that big a deal? And is

999
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: this the best you can do? If it was really

1000
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: set up to be corrupt, if it was really set

1001
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: up so that we could or so that the Clintons

1002
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: could benefit from running this charity and selling political favors

1003
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: and using influence. Wouldn't there be bigger cases than some

1004
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: guy who wants to be on a micro credit bank

1005
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: will be the chairman of a microcredit bank in Bangladesh.

1006
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: And I would say to you, well, here's one of

1007
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: the problems with corruption, especially when it's global. Uh, you

1008
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: can't exactly expect any whistleblowers to come forward. Anybody who

1009
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: asked Hillary Clinton for a favor when she was Secretary

1010
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: of State, whether they got one or not, but let's

1011
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: assume they got the favor. Anybody who asked is not

1012
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: gonna want to come forward be like, oh, yes, I

1013
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: was part of that scam. I donated money the Clinton

1014
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: Foundation so that I could try to get an influential

1015
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: policy decision that would help my business or even help

1016
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: my country. This is why when people talk about Trump

1017
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: and Russia and collusion, a lot of us say, and

1018
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: I know, there's what what about is m is something

1019
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: we have to be on guard for. We shouldn't just

1020
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: always say well what about you know, what about the Clintons,

1021
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: what about a bound But the Clintons are running a

1022
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: global influence peddling operation, and the media was complicit in

1023
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: the whole thing in the sense that they pretended to

1024
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: be just completely uh incapable of making the most basic

1025
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: and rudimentary um conclusions about coming to the most basic

1026
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: and rudimentary conclusions about the Clinton Foundation was really up to.

1027
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: It was selling influence everybody. We've got our first case here,

1028
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: but there will be more. Just give it some time,

1029
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: and those donations that the the Clinton Foundation, by the way,

1030
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: are going to be getting pretty lean soon. More coming.

1031
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Stay with me the freedom hug rocks online too. You

1032
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: can hang out with Team Buck anytime. Plus can bucks

1033
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: the latest news and analysis go to buck Sexton dot com.

1034
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: That's buck Sexton dot com. The Buck is back. Well,

1035
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned it before because I saw a piece about

1036
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: Lauren Southern independent journalists uh and also author how she

1037
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: was detained by the Italian Maritime Police or Italian Coast

1038
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Guard because she's part of where she was on a

1039
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: boat that well, I don't even have to give the details.

1040
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: Lauren Southern just called in, Hey Lauren, what's up? Hey Buck,

1041
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm just heading back from the Catania port

1042
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: with a bunch of activists from all around Europe right now.

1043
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: So we're just in the car and I am not

1044
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: in police custody, which is awesome. Up. Yeah, okay, So

1045
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: I saw that piece and what I was on air.

1046
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned it before. People have some of the background,

1047
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: but I didn't know we'd be able to get you

1048
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: on the air so quickly. So tell me, uh what

1049
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: happened and well, and I'm sorry first before we get

1050
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: into your arrest and what happened? What are you doing there? Well,

1051
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: for three days, we've been tracking boat movements that are

1052
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: boats going down to the Libyan coast to pick up

1053
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: tons and times of migrants and illegally trafficked them into Europe.

1054
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: And we've been trying to find out which ones are

1055
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: leaving with empty crews to go and pick up people

1056
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: so that we could stage kind of a protest and

1057
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: I could film it and get what was going on.

1058
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: And they were just going to basically put one boat

1059
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: in front of one of these bigger boats, and legally

1060
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: they're supposed to have to stop. So we tried doing

1061
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: that tonight and we had the flares and everything ready,

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Speaker 1: and uh, that's basically what happened tonight is we tried

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Speaker 1: to have a standoff with the Aquarius boat that was

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Speaker 1: going out to the Libyan coast and we were detained

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Speaker 1: id Coastguard. We're trying to stop a boat that is

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Speaker 1: illegally trapping or trafficking migrants. So with the way that

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Speaker 1: you you you throw your boat in front of the

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Speaker 1: in front of the migrant trafficking boat, and the idea

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Speaker 1: being that, I mean, aren't they just I mean, this

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Speaker 1: might be kind of a dumb question. Aren't they just

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Speaker 1: gonna try to go around you? Well that's no. Actually

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Speaker 1: they tried to go straight through us. They're not supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. But the thing is that it's interesting because

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Speaker 1: the law just doesn't apply to these migrant trafficking boats

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Speaker 1: apparently in any sense. They just let them do what

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Speaker 1: they want. The government is ProPolice mine with their illegal trafficking,

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Speaker 1: and they don't have to stop. Did did they do

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Speaker 1: the Italian Coastguard arrest just you and not the migrant traffickers? Oh,

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Speaker 1: of course not. They're they're helping the migrant traffickers. What

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Speaker 1: that's that seems great? I figured you guys were all.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like after a bar fight, And understandably,

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Speaker 1: sometimes the cops initially just arrested like kind of everybody

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Speaker 1: and they figure it out. I figured they're arresting everybody.

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Speaker 1: You got arrested, but the migrant traffickers did not. Luckily,

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Speaker 1: we were just attained, so we weren't brought into a

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Speaker 1: jail cell or anything. But we have forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: to find out what we're going to be potentially charged with.

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Speaker 1: So we're just hanging out here in Catania waiting to

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Speaker 1: see what we're going to be charged with, which will

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Speaker 1: be interesting and probably we're gonna get in the most

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Speaker 1: troubles with Splare we had, but we're not sure yet.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the micrant boats here, the trafficking, they don't

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Speaker 1: get in trouble for anything. It's a huge, huge situation.

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Speaker 1: They're going out of the ports here every single day.

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Speaker 1: We spent a long time doing research, calling government organizations

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Speaker 1: and n g O is trying to find out where

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Speaker 1: and where they are. And there are tons of these

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Speaker 1: votes every single day that the government doesn't doesn't keep

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Speaker 1: a track of and doesn't stop. So we figured we'd

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Speaker 1: do it on our own. What is Generational Generation IDENTITYRE

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Speaker 1: is a youth movement in Europe right now that believes

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Speaker 1: in preserving the culture of different European countries. So they're

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Speaker 1: like a right wing kind of youth movement that in

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Speaker 1: France they'd be associated with the Front Nationale kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And they're just like a cultural European cultural support right

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Speaker 1: wing movement and and so that okay, um, how did

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Speaker 1: you get linked up with them? When I was reporting

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Speaker 1: in Paris on the elections, I wanted to see a

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Speaker 1: bit of what their movement was like, because I've seen

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Speaker 1: a bunch of their actions. They do some crazy stuff,

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Speaker 1: like they'll put bertas on some of the statues there,

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Speaker 1: and they even built a giant wall to block out

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Speaker 1: migrants were coming into the Calais jungle and they called

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Speaker 1: this action bend Calais. So they do a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: To tell tell people about the Calai jungle real quick,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure that that that's I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: it's where it's where people that are waiting too. What

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Speaker 1: is a cross into the UK in in the port

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Speaker 1: of Calais and France. There's there's this whole migrant encampment there.

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Speaker 1: But tell folks about that. Yeah, it's crazy. I have

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Speaker 1: actually been there last summer, but they were storing thousands

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Speaker 1: and thousands of migrants here that would just be waiting.

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Speaker 1: They'd be waiting because it's kind of close to London's.

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Speaker 1: They had like three thousands of five thousand migrants waiting

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Speaker 1: near the city of Klais just to get to London.

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Speaker 1: But they completely trashed the place. It became a total

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Speaker 1: hell hole to go to. When I was there, I

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Speaker 1: was speaking with the migrants, which none of none of

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Speaker 1: which were from Syria. You can look up my video

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Speaker 1: on it. I only found one person from Syria there,

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Speaker 1: but most of them were migrants from Afghanistan, Eritrea, different

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Speaker 1: um North African countries. I ran and they were all

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Speaker 1: internally fighting. They had religious battles going on, They had

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Speaker 1: extremist groups within the Calais jungle, and the people living

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Speaker 1: in kel A, France were horrified at this area and

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Speaker 1: it just became a complete no go zone in the

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere in Keli and Um. So Generation Identitaire

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Speaker 1: went to go and stop the craziness that going on.

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Speaker 1: Oh and it's free by a highway as well, where

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Lauries go by. So all these lories

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Speaker 1: were constantly being attacked by migrants. Speaking to uh to

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Speaker 1: Lauren southern She is in Italy right now. She's an

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Speaker 1: independent journalist um and she was detained temporarily by the

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Speaker 1: Italian Coast Guard for trying to prevent illegal migrant migrant

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Speaker 1: trafficking into Italy from the North African coast. Uh Lauren,

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Speaker 1: what's the what's the debate like right now in Italy

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Speaker 1: with regard to immigration and and the migrant wave coming

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Speaker 1: in from predominantly from the Muslim world. What debate? People

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Speaker 1: don't even talk about it. If you talk about it,

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Speaker 1: you get in trouble in Europe. It's a generation identity

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01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: are They've been speaking to the activists here. They get

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Speaker 1: attacked constantly by radical antica on the street, can be

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01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: slandered by the media constantly. I mean, looking at the

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Speaker 1: media that's come out of this people, people from the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media are saying that I'm shooting slayers, that drowning

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Speaker 1: refuge season, just exaggerating hell out of this situation. So

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Speaker 1: there's the conversation is completely shut down, and it's just

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Speaker 1: kind of this unspoken illegal trafficking that just happens and

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Speaker 1: everyone's supposed to be okay with it. Do you have

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Speaker 1: some sense of what the numbers are so far this year.

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Speaker 1: Have you talked to other people in the group or

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Speaker 1: or experts over in Italy about how many migrants are

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Speaker 1: moving are are are moving in? Well, I can't say

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Speaker 1: how many have moved in this year specifically, but what

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Speaker 1: I can tell you is a report was just came

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Speaker 1: out from the German government saying that there are around

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Speaker 1: six to eight million ready to come into Europe this summer,

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Speaker 1: waiting on the borders of countries like Libya and Turkey,

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Speaker 1: and they are just working out all of the details

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Speaker 1: of how they're going to get into Europe. So that

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Speaker 1: that is a confirmed German reports saying there are millions

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Speaker 1: of millions waiting on the border just to come in there.

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Speaker 1: And is the Italian government's official position that they do

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Speaker 1: not allow migrants to come in by the way, is

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Speaker 1: this a they turn a blind eye to its situation

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Speaker 1: or is it anyone can arrive and claim asylum and

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Speaker 1: then will work out their claim. But that means they're

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Speaker 1: all gonna stay kind of a situation. Well, their official

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Speaker 1: position doesn't really matter when their official action is they

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Speaker 1: do nothing right. The Coast Guard was after us, not

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Speaker 1: those trafficking votes and what we were calling government organizations.

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Speaker 1: What we did essentially was we pretended to be journalists

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Speaker 1: that wanted to take pictures of these migrant votes. And

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Speaker 1: then we called these government organizations and n g o

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Speaker 1: s and they gave us all the info we needed.

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Speaker 1: And the government organizations are like, oh yeah, sure, let's

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Speaker 1: get you some photos of migrants. That's awesome. They weren't

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Speaker 1: telling us this is gonna legal act. They weren't telling

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Speaker 1: us that, uh, these things are allowed. They were happy

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Speaker 1: to help us. Uh, Lauren, what's by the way, where

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Speaker 1: can people go to to check out what you're what

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Speaker 1: you're up to with your journalism in Europe? And and

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Speaker 1: then also, uh, what have you got going on next?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like scared. The next phone call I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get is that you're in in northern Syria just

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Speaker 1: checking out the scene. But first tell us where we

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Speaker 1: can see your stuff? All right, you can find me

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Speaker 1: at Lauren Underscore Southern and that would be my Twitter page, rink.

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Speaker 1: You just google me and Lauren Southern and find my

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Speaker 1: Facebook or YouTube. I'm all over the place. And as

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Speaker 1: for what's up next, well, this this mission took me

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Speaker 1: being kind of deep undercover, so that b N g

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Speaker 1: O S wouldn't find out where we were, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I can update you on where I'll

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Speaker 1: be next, because it might be another crazy mission like

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Speaker 1: this one. Okay, well, Lauren, we appreciate you baking sometime,

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Speaker 1: calling in from Italy after her running entertainment with the

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Speaker 1: Italian Coast Guard trying to stop migrants from infiltrating illegally

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Speaker 1: into Europe. Lauren Southern, thank you for your time. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me buck alright, team we are there.

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Speaker 1: We go Team Buckeyes International, folks. Uh, We're going to

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Speaker 1: hit a break here and we'll be right back. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we've started to reach a point where there will be

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Speaker 1: um changes in the social justice echo chambers. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to see cracks. I'm starting to see the beginnings

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Speaker 1: of doubt. It's very small and it's very limited. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I've there are a few bits of evidence that

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Speaker 1: I would point to here, including a feminist YouTuber named

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Speaker 1: Lacey Green who is now I'm not sure that social

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Speaker 1: justice orthodoxy is all it's crack up to be. And

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Speaker 1: then there's also a posting by a leftist blogger of

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Speaker 1: talking about the back channel. Um, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: I might have to put those on hold because we've

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Speaker 1: been trying to get our friend Sarah Carter on the

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Speaker 1: I promise you I will return to those subjects, probably

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Speaker 1: on maybe today, maybe on Monday, because we got their

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Speaker 1: friend Sarah Carter on the line now. Award winning national

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Speaker 1: security and war correspondence. She reports for Circuit News, and

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Speaker 1: she is behind that piece of the Bangladeshi Prime minister

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Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton and asking for special favors for a

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation donor. Sarah, thanks for making the time great

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Speaker 1: to have you. Oh, it's great to be here, Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on. So I gave

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Speaker 1: people the the broad strokes of what happened with the

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Bangladesh and Hillary Clinton while she was

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State. Uh, what's been the what's been the

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Speaker 1: reaction to this? And and and also do you think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to uncover more of these seemingly quid

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Speaker 1: pro quo Hillary Clinton Clinton Foundation transactions? Yeah? Actually we do.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was quite significant that the Bangladeshi

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister spoke out. I mean this is this is

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Speaker 1: the first time really that this has ever happened where

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Speaker 1: an official head of state has actually come forward and said, look,

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Speaker 1: I was you know, I was in no sense being

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Speaker 1: strong armed by the Secretary of State for one of

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Speaker 1: her donors. And you know, despite whatever happened inside Bangladesh,

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Speaker 1: because we understand that there's internal politics involved in this

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Speaker 1: as well between the British I mean, between the Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister of Bangladesh and Dr Mohammed Units. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: goes to show you how far the United States and

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Speaker 1: we should question whether or not a Secretary of State

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Speaker 1: should actually be actively involved in in pressuring another foreign

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Speaker 1: government for one of her friends and donors. And I

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Speaker 1: think this is the first time that that was really evident.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard any any pushback from any of the

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Speaker 1: Clinton defenders out there that this was completely normal in

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Speaker 1: the course of business, etcetera, etcetera. Absolutely not. But I

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Speaker 1: mean we asked repeatedly for comment for the story and

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Speaker 1: we were basically nord or denied comment. And when we

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Speaker 1: spoke to Dr Mohammed Units's office, they did refer us

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Speaker 1: to an old, an old statement of his and were

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Speaker 1: he said he had no plans or intentions of being

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Speaker 1: the managing director forever of Groman Bank, so that was

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Speaker 1: the bank that he was in charge of at the time,

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Speaker 1: and the and the one that he started at, you know,

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Speaker 1: with his micro financing department. But he you know the

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Speaker 1: fact that that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't either confirm nor deny whether or not he had

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Speaker 1: asked her personally to intercede for him. I think the

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Speaker 1: question here is these ethical boundaries. I mean, whether it's

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Speaker 1: criminal or not, I don't think so, but I think

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Speaker 1: there's these ethical relations that we have to look at.

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Speaker 1: How far are we willing to go when you know,

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Speaker 1: people who hold an essentially high political office are receiving

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Speaker 1: funding like she did through her foundation, through the Clinton

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Speaker 1: Foundation and the Clinton Globally Initiative, and how far will

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Speaker 1: they go and intercede with their job in politics, in

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Speaker 1: in the government, you know, for people that are donors.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's something that's very questionable and something that, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're expecting more and more people to talk. That's all

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Speaker 1: I can say. At this point. We're speaking to Sarah Carter,

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Speaker 1: national security correspondent journalists for CIRCA News. Um, Sarah, have

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Speaker 1: you been able to look into the Clinton Foundation yet

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Speaker 1: and give us a sense as to, uh, whether it

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Speaker 1: is changing dramatically now that Hillary Clinton is not going

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Speaker 1: to be president. I mean, have have we I know,

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Speaker 1: the Clinton Global Initiative shut down, have we seen any

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Speaker 1: other signs that their whole business model is in flux.

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Speaker 1: I believe that their whole business model is in flux.

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Speaker 1: But they certainly don't want this to be haunting them.

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Speaker 1: They certainly know that people are much more aware of

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Speaker 1: what was going on in the past, and there are

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Speaker 1: a number of reporters continuing to investigate, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation during her tenure as a Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: So I believe that there is an absolute push to

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Speaker 1: change things, to change the perception of the way things were,

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Speaker 1: the way things were or I guess obtained and how

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Speaker 1: they handled things in the past. But um, but that

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Speaker 1: remains to be seen. I mean, there's there's still time

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Speaker 1: things are in flux. But I don't think that this

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Speaker 1: is going away. I mean, I really think this is

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Speaker 1: a story that people are going to continue to look

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Speaker 1: at because her influence uh influenced other countries, that influenced people,

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01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: that were donors, that influenced very important people and very

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: important policy issues. So I mean that's something that we're

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Speaker 1: looking at and and how that affected things on in

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Speaker 1: the geopolitical scale and and even down just to relationships

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Speaker 1: between nations. So those are things that I think people

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01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: are still questioning, and of course those are things that

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Speaker 1: people want to see stop in the future. I know

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Speaker 1: when we we spoke to Dr Painter, doctor Richard Paynter,

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Speaker 1: who was the lawyer under the Bush administration and he

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01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: was a supporter of Hillary Clinton during her campaign, one

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Speaker 1: of the things that he said was I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that this instance it's criminal, but he said it is

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: an example to show why politicians should not be fundraising

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: for anything, because even this perception of taking money for

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: favors is just it's just plain wrong. It's unethical and

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01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: it crosses all lines. And that was, you know, something

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Speaker 1: that a supporter of Clinton was very clear about with me, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: I've only got a couple of minutes left, but with

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Speaker 1: somebody with your source network inside law enforcement, military and

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Speaker 1: intelligence circles, I have to ask, well, what's really going

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Speaker 1: on inside the FBI right now? We're being told that

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Speaker 1: there's you know, there's a war of leaks is coming

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Speaker 1: about Comey and about Trump, and there's going to be

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: and we're hearing different things about morale, who they support

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01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: and everything else. What can you tell us about what's

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: what's real in the FBI right now? Well, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you this about from the sources that I've spoken

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01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: to in the past, and you know, I've written the

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01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: story over and over again that they're they have yet

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01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: to find and Trump is not under estigation any evidence

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01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: of collusion with President Trump or anyone right now in

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: the government that's directly surrounding him and Russia. They are

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01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: investigating people that were possibly connected to Trump, but not

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01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: in the government. Okay, that that that is, that remains clear.

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you within the FBI there was division.

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean, there were a number of FBI agents that

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01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 1: a good number of FBI agents and I won't throw

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: it out there just in case, that were extremely frustrated

1342
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: with Director Comy when he decided not to press charges

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01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: against Hillary Clinton or moved forward with those charges with

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: the recommendation to the Attorney General to go, yeah, act

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: with the recommendation to the Attorney general to pursue to

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01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: pursue the case against uh, you know, Hillary Clinton then

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: candidate Hillary Clinton. So there was a number of people

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01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: that were frustrated Andrew McCabe. You know, according to many

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01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: sources that I've spoke with, who is now the deputy director,

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 1: was no big fan of Trump whatsoever, and and neither

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: President Trump of him. Um. And he was very honest,

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: and he admitted during those hearings that there were people

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01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: that were very frustrated with that. So I think that

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Speaker 1: what we're going to see in the battle this is

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: an all out battle of wills here between the White

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Speaker 1: House and those people in the FBI that are loyalists

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: to either the Obama or Clinton. Uh, folks can't and

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01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: those that feel that they have been jilted by the

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: Obama and Clinton's team. So we're gonna see a lot

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: more play out in the next few weeks, and I

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01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: think it's gonna surprise quite a few people. Sarah Carter,

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Speaker 1: National security war correspondent reporter for Circle News. Sarah, my friend,

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Speaker 1: great to have you, Thanks and have a fantastic weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Back same to you. UM. Team

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Speaker 1: Our three is coming up. We're gonna talk about automation.

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Speaker 1: Luddite's Keith Olberman. Oh my, welcome back to the Freedom

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Speaker 1: hud On an island of liberty where you're the Party,

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: and it's full of fellow patriots. Buck Sexton kicks it

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: off Keith Overman in this is the Resistance. I appeal

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Speaker 1: to the intelligence agencies and the governments of what is

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01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: left of the free world, to them as entities, entireties,

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Speaker 1: as bureaucracies making official decisions, and to the individuals who

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: make decisions of conscience, to g h Q and m

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Speaker 1: I six in the UK, to the b n D

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Speaker 1: in Germany, the d G S E in France, the

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Speaker 1: s I S in Australia, and even to the g

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Speaker 1: r U in Russia, where they must already be profoundly

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: aware that they have not merely helped put an amoral

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: cynic in power here, but an uncontrollable one. Who's that's

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01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Keith Olverman. That's Keith Alverman. Who's who is still a

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01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 1: guy who does media? Everybody, He's still out there doing

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 1: his thing. Um, this is for for g Q magazine

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: or something. Uh, that's where I saw it. But first

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Speaker 1: of all, I love that he's rattling off all of

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Speaker 1: these with with just utter seriousness, all of these intel agencies,

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01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: which I'm sure he probably could have named two of

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01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: them without having to go to the Google. But now

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01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: he's he's deadly serious. He's so earnest in trying to

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01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: save us all from the monstrosity of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: You gotta hear a little more of this. It's amazing

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01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: whose madness is genuine, and whose usefulness even to them

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: is at an end. To all of them, and to

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01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: the world's journalists. I make this plea, We, the citizens

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: of the United States of America, are the victims of

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01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: a coup. We need your leaks, your information, your intelligence,

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01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: who recordings, your videos, your conscience. The civilian government and

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01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: the military of the United States are no longer in

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: the hands of the people, nor in the control of

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: any responsible individuals on whom you can rely. The first

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: step towards compromising our FBI occurred Tuesday with before you

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01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: get to call me stuff. Yeah, a coup has happened here.

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01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: This is This is Olberman, who was paid I think

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: it was reported that he was paid ten million dollars

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01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: a year to be on Al Gore's Current TV, which

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01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: was terrible and which nobody wanted to watch, and I

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: had a horrible viewership. And then he ended up suing

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01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: I believe Current TV um And this is after leaving MSNBC,

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01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: where I know people who worked in the building when

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01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: he was there, and they described they thought it was

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01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: there was irony that he had this list of the

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01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 1: worst person in the world because, quoting from an unnamed

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: former MSNBC staffer, Keith Olberman was in fact the worst

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01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: person in the world. So I I don't know him,

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01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: so I can't say that you know, one way or

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01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: the other that's true about him personally, but professionally, this

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01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: guy is just off his rocker. However, he is a

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01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 1: voice among many that are pushing the most extreme, most

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01:19:54,840 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: crazy notions of what's happened in this country. And I

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: would say to you that, you know, I'm sitting here

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01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: and kind of laughing because he just there has been

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01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: a coup and it reminds me of that incredible It

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01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: really holds up that Ben Affleck um, that Ben Affleck

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live Sketcher. He's like Miss Precious perfect h.

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01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: The co op board would not let me keep my cat,

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01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: Miss Precious perfect U. And it was one of the

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Speaker 1: best things I've ever seen Ben Affleck do. If you

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01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 1: haven't seen it on SNL, his impersonation of Keith Olberman

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: is is absolutely brilliant and spot on and fantastic. Um.

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: But Olberman is giving voice to what is increasingly a

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01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: mainstream belief, which is that the presidency of the Trump

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01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: administration is illegitimate, it is a stolen presidency. And uh,

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01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: he's he's appealing to outside intelligence agencies to release compromat

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Speaker 1: compromising information on and he specifically said the g r U,

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Speaker 1: which is the Russian military intelligence Service. I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know that. He definitely doesn't know the difference in

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Speaker 1: the SVR, the Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia, the FSB

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Speaker 1: the domestic intelligence apparatus, and the g r U the

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Speaker 1: military intelligence apparatus. But that's why I'm here to know stuff,

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: because people like Keith Olberman don't. Uh. But he is

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01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: appealing to them to help by releasing information that they

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01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: may have achieved through illegal means, through illegal wire taps,

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01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: through invasions of privacy. And by the way, I don't

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01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: think this information exists. I don't think they have anything

1444
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: on Trump, which is perhaps the more important point here.

1445
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: But this now among Democrats passes for patriotism, calling for

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01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 1: foreign governments to give compromising information to the US media,

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01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: who will, of course gleefully run with it and printed

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Speaker 1: on their front pages. I just say I am increasingly

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01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: um negative on journalists in general and journalism as a

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: profession in this country. I think that they act with

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01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: a recklessness. I think that they're hyperpartisanship has completely as

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01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: a profession discredited, uh discredited them. And and also now

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01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: I think it's laughable that you have the main media outlets,

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01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: mainstream media outlets in this country that even cling to

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01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: some pretense of nonpartisan objectivity. That's preposterous, it is utterly silly.

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: But they still cling to this, they still use this,

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01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: and it's really because propaganda that can at least hold

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01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: out some belief um and and try to create some

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01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 1: perception that it's not entirely partisan in its ends, that's

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01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: more useful, it's more effective. But it's funny that Olberman

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Speaker 1: is asking for foreign collusion to undermine the government of

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Speaker 1: his own country and thinks that this is now patriotism.

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Speaker 1: And don't think for a moment that he doesn't have followers,

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have uh, those who would agree with him.

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01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: He was the star at MSNBC, which tells you a

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01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: lot about that channel. He was the major entity there,

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01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: and then that that tent pole position was taken over,

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Speaker 1: meaning the biggest anchor that holds up the tent for

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01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: all the rest was taken over by Rachel Maddow. But

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Speaker 1: he was very well compensated over there. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: a multi multimillionaire many times over and was treated with

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Speaker 1: reverence by the left. He was the intellectual anchor of

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Speaker 1: the left for a while. And he's a loon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: on top of from what I've been told, just not

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01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: a nice guy, a really nasty person. Uh. And we

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: should start to care a little bit more about that,

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Speaker 1: especially as we realized that the news media is largely

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Speaker 1: personality driven now. People who are huge jerks, I think

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Speaker 1: they're fans, their watchers, their listeners should care. I think

1480
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: that nastiness should matter and should count against you. But

1481
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: I digress. Also a side note, I was over at

1482
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: at Fox today, um with I was on Tris Reagan show,

1483
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: who's by the way, fantastic, uh professionally and as a

1484
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: really kind and excellent human being. Um. But I was

1485
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: on our show and we were sitting there and I

1486
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: was talking to one of the other guests and just

1487
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: came up that you know this isn't even the first

1488
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: time that you've had the Democrats main storyline be about

1489
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: a presidency, be that it was stolen, be that somebody

1490
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: took this away from the rightful I don't know the

1491
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: rightful owner or the rightful victor the Democrat. You will

1492
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: remember that it was the story we were told in

1493
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: two thousand with Bush versus Gore, Bush v. Gore. Um.

1494
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: They believe that Bush's motorcade on Inauguration Day had people

1495
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: pelting it with stuff. They believe that Bush stole the

1496
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: election from al Gore, even though there was never a

1497
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: single recount that showed al Gore ahead. Um. In fact,

1498
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: there was that HBO movie recount that was supposed to

1499
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: just show in completely uh falsified and decontextualized detail why

1500
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: al Gore was in fact the victor in two thousand.

1501
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: But this is not a new theme. This is not

1502
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: a new story. The Democrats have a tenuous grasp of

1503
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: reality and are just really bad, sore losers. The only

1504
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: thing that stopped the Bush stole the election narrative was

1505
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: nine eleven, and there was a moment lasted for maybe

1506
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: a month, when the country, even the media that hated Bush,

1507
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 1: had to rally around the president because we were under attack,

1508
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: and there was a recognition of that. Um. But then

1509
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: they went to Bush was a war criminal, of course,

1510
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: on top of all the terrible things I said about him.

1511
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: So it's not that new what we're seeing right now.

1512
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: It's just a new version of what we've been told before,

1513
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 1: which is that Democrats can't really lose elections. And then

1514
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: you've got this guy Olberman with the unilateral firing of

1515
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: its director by the President, prompted by the Attorney General,

1516
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: both of whom are or were at least Stein theory

1517
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: possibly to be under investigation by the FBI has led

1518
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: by that director they fired. Our CIA is run by

1519
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: one of that president's political appointees. The first National Security

1520
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: Advisor was fired and may have been a Russian stooge. Okay, Um,

1521
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: every CI director is a political appointee, So that's nothing

1522
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: new or interesting. And the Russian stooge accusation with Flynn, well,

1523
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: Flynn was fired. Um. Keith Olberman is obviously trying to

1524
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 1: gain relevance, but just understand we should keep this in mind.

1525
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: He is indicative of a mindset now on the left

1526
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 1: that is that the more extreme, the more undermining. The

1527
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: more um nasty you can be about Donald Trump, the

1528
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: likelier it is that you will gain a following or

1529
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,799
Speaker 1: you will build on your following, and you'll be relevant

1530
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: in the conversation. Uh. This is why we're going to

1531
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,839
Speaker 1: continue to see this. I mean, the notion that somehow

1532
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: this investigation is going to stop and then avenge and

1533
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: will be a place where we all accept that there's

1534
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: the truth is what comes out of it. I mean,

1535
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: this is this is the narrative. This is the anti

1536
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: Trump narrative, the Russia thing until they get something else,

1537
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna get anything nearly as

1538
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: interesting them as this. This is the narrative. Um So anyway, team,

1539
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit a quick break here. We'll come back

1540
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: on the flip side. Let's talk about jobs and automation

1541
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: and possible job losses. Welcome back, team. There's gonna be

1542
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: sometimes when I have to, uh disagree with an aspect

1543
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: of the administration, and I'm gonna be upfront with you

1544
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: about it. When they do things that I don't like,

1545
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. And when they make a policy decision

1546
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: with which I disagree, I'll be straightforward about it because

1547
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: that's my promise to you. And if I'm not going

1548
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: to do that, well, then what's what's the point, right?

1549
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're just if someone's just gonna sit

1550
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: around and be a mouthpiece for the administration. There there

1551
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: are literally people who have that as their job. They

1552
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: work in the West Wing press Corps. I mean, not

1553
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: the press corps. Wealth, the press corper of the Obama

1554
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: administration may have had that job, but now it's just

1555
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: UH Spicer and Sarah Huckabee Sanders and and the rest

1556
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: of the crew in the West Wing. They have the

1557
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: job of officially representing the administration's point of view. I

1558
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:25,799
Speaker 1: don't do that. So on Jeff's sessions and ending Jeff's sessions,

1559
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: the Attorney Channel, he's the highest law enforcement officer in

1560
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: the country, and he put out a letter today which

1561
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:35,560
Speaker 1: I read, saying that they will end the Obama administration

1562
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: policy with regard or guidance really with regard to sentencing

1563
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: and leniency in federal criminal sentencing. Now, I come at

1564
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: this from a from a variety of different angles. One

1565
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: of them is that I think that we have far

1566
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: too many uh federal criminal statutes and no person that

1567
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: no os how many statutes. There are really ever argues

1568
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: this with me. It's it's quite honestly a scandal that

1569
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: we have thousands of laws on the books that are

1570
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: criminal laws, federal criminal laws, and when you look at

1571
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: some of the penalties for them. I mean, if you're

1572
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: caught up now in even a an investigation of accounting practices,

1573
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: or you know, if you're involved in an investigation, a

1574
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: federal investigation of uh, you know, corporate mouthfeasance and you

1575
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: destroy documents, it is possible that you could face twenty

1576
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: years in federal prison for that under I believe it

1577
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: was under Dodd Frank. Uh that is just crazy, right,

1578
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: you don't know, people say, Buck, you don't get that.

1579
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,839
Speaker 1: But I don't like this game of giving the government

1580
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: the tool to crush anybody and in a federal prosecution

1581
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: and so then you get all these guilty please, which

1582
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: of course the prosecutorial arm of the government. U S

1583
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 1: Attorneys and they're various other subsidiaries other you know where

1584
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,879
Speaker 1: they we're talking about the u S attorney or assistant

1585
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: u S Attorneys and just different offices across the country. Uh.

1586
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 1: I don't want them to have the ability to say,

1587
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,440
Speaker 1: well you either plead guilty, or you can face ruination

1588
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: of your life. I mean twenty years in federal prison

1589
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: and you're you're done right, There's no matter how old

1590
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: you are that that's just your life is ruined. It's

1591
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: never the same um. And so even if someone only

1592
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: serves two or three years instead of twenty, well are

1593
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: they serving two or three years because they're terrified of

1594
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: the twenty years sentence or are they serving because they

1595
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: were actually guilty of any crime to begin with? So

1596
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: you have over criminalization is a very real phenomenon in

1597
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: this country, particularly federal criminal code now on the and

1598
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 1: there there are too many things for which they are

1599
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: federal criminal violations attached them. In fact, there are regulations

1600
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: that aren't even they're not even passed by Congress. They're

1601
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: just the regulatory agencies deciding that one thing or another

1602
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: has a criminal penalty. So over criminalization is a very

1603
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: real phenomenon. And maybe on another day another show, I'll

1604
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: go over some cases with you of what the of

1605
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: what federal prosecutors will try to try to pull, try

1606
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: to get away with and looks some of them. I

1607
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 1: have friends who are current and former federal prosecutors. Uh,

1608
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: some of them are incredibly ethical and they do work

1609
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: that is amazingly important. Um. But there are also a

1610
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: lot that are political hacks, and they're not ethical, and

1611
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 1: you don't want to give them too much power. Already

1612
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 1: they have a tremendous amount of discretion. There have been

1613
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: cases in the past where they've pressed federal criminal charges

1614
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: against somebody for getting lost in the woods on an

1615
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 1: a t V and finding themselves on federal land. A

1616
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: tving on federal land. Now you face a year in

1617
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: federal prison. Um. People who use the wrong packaging for

1618
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: uh fish that they're legally legally um catching, but then

1619
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 1: the in the transport of them, they use the wrong

1620
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: packaging material. It's a federal criminal violation. I mean stuff

1621
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: that's crazy. A woman puts in a stringent chemical on

1622
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: the door handle of a rival lovers I think it

1623
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: was her her trailer home, and instead of just charging

1624
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 1: with assault and you know, criminal mischief or whatever, they

1625
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 1: tried to charge her with a violation of a chemical

1626
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: weapons treaty. Okay, these these are federal prosecutors making these

1627
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: decisions and going forward with them. And there are I

1628
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: could sit here and go over a number of cases

1629
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: with you where no reasonable justice minded person would say, yeah,

1630
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: somebody should somebody should even face prison for that now. Um.

1631
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions in his letter says that the Obama administration

1632
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: policy of leniency, especially on drug crimes, is going to end,

1633
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: and that now prosecutors, as a matter of policy, should

1634
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: go for the highest provable offense. Uh. The Obama perspective

1635
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: on this was the bomb administration's perspective was that they

1636
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: would go unless there were additional circumstances. So if somebody

1637
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: was involved in violence or uh, you know, if it

1638
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: was repeat offenders. Mean, there were other factors that would

1639
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: be taken into this, but they would not necessarily go

1640
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 1: for the highest chargeable and provable offense. And so a

1641
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: lot of in a lot of drug cases, they would

1642
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: go with something lesser. Um. I think that for first

1643
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: time offenders in a drug related case, whether there's not

1644
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: a violence or a threat of violence where you don't

1645
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:37,520
Speaker 1: have weapons carried also in in the in the drug transaction,

1646
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, there's a number of other mitigating

1647
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: factors or not sorry, exacerbating factors that you could throw

1648
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: in there. We also should think about mitigating factors. I

1649
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: don't agree with mandatory minimum sentencing for people that are

1650
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: engaged in a non violent drug transaction. And I know all.

1651
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 1: I've read all kinds of stuff about how even non

1652
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: violent drug transactions provide money for cartels and incredibly violent

1653
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 1: organized crime, and I understand all of that. But a

1654
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 1: first time offender in a non violent in a non

1655
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: violent act should not be facing ten twenty perhaps even

1656
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: life in prison. That's this is my opinion, and it's

1657
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: a place where I will diverge from the Trump administration

1658
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: on this. I don't like the the federal government having

1659
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: an even more aggressive policy of criminal enforcement because we

1660
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: have a very large population of those incarcerated right now.

1661
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: As a percentage of our population, it's also quite large,

1662
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: and we should understand this. And maybe this will get

1663
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: some of you who right now are shaking your heads

1664
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: like Buck, you don't get it. Law and order, you

1665
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: gotta do it. I understand law and order, but I

1666
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: think you know, if you're if you're caught selling a

1667
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: little too much weed, you know, maybe giving you uh,

1668
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what. It depends on where you are

1669
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: and what the federal statue would say, but making sure

1670
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 1: that it doesn't completely destroy your life might be a worthwhile,

1671
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, it might be worthwhile to give someone a

1672
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: second chance on that. But remember this as well, Uh,

1673
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: the Democrats, at some point we'll be back in power.

1674
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: And I know it's a terrible thing to say, especially

1675
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: before we're going to be going into the weekend. It's

1676
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: very sad, but at some point in the future Democrats

1677
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 1: will be in charge again and giving whomever is in

1678
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office increased discretion over I'm sorry, less discretion,

1679
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: but increased power to destroy, meaning you're supposed to just

1680
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: go after the maximum here and that's now a matter

1681
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: of policy. Uh, this could be used in any number

1682
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: of categories. Remember that there's also political targeting that will occur.

1683
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: Remember what happened the tea part of the I R S. Well,

1684
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 1: we've also seen very politicized investigations of Republicans that they

1685
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: were trying to just mention this. Earlier in the week,

1686
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,839
Speaker 1: they were trying to bring criminal cases against Chris Christie,

1687
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: against Scott Walker, against Bob McDonald, against Vic Perry, you

1688
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Speaker 1: get on the line. They were trying to imprison Dick

1689
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Speaker 1: Cheney of the Bush administration with that special prosecutor nonsense.

1690
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Democrats don't play fair. And if we

1691
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: establish a precedent of always going for the maximum charge,

1692
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: at some point we may look back at this and say,

1693
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Speaker 1: hold on a minute. Oh, by the way, they'll also

1694
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: want to apply this with with Democrats in charge, they

1695
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 1: would want to apply this to white collar crimes. This

1696
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: is always a game that the Left plays. They say, well,

1697
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: drug crimes are gonna be treated harshly. We're also then

1698
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: going to lock somebody away for decades for you know, embezzlement.

1699
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Speaker 1: The Freedom Hunt rocks online too. You can hang out

1700
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: with Team Buck anytime. Plus get bucks the latest news

1701
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: and analysis. Go top buck Sexton dot com. That's buck

1702
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Sexton dot com. The Buck is back. Welcome back, Team.

1703
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: There's a story today in the Christian Science Monitor when

1704
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: fear of automation is too robotic. Now, this is a

1705
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: continuing theme, a story that I like to pay attention

1706
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: to here on the show because well, there's a lot

1707
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: of rhetoric out there about jobs being lost due to

1708
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,759
Speaker 1: outsourcing and how we need to bring back good jobs

1709
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: into this country. And you hear politicians talk about this

1710
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: but without really ever having much in the way of solutions,

1711
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: and some of their solutions are actually either ineffective or

1712
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: perhaps even more damaging to employment prospects for people in

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Speaker 1: this country. Uh, though it sounds good in the short term,

1714
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: and so politicians tend to do whatever is going to

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01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: work for them for the next election. But automation is

1716
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: a game changer in a lot of industries. And this

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01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: Christian Science Monitor pieces looking at two studies on the

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01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: impact of new technologies, and there are more or less

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01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: saying that, Look, people shouldn't be afraid of robots and

1720
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. This is going to make life better. This

1721
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: is not going to create massive social disruption. Uh So

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01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a studies of Christian Science Monitor. Meanwhile, uh,

1723
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: a couple of other folks weighing in on this earlier

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01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: this year. Uh. Here's Stephen Hawking, pretty well known as

1725
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: astrophysicist and had that movie The Theory of Everything recently.

1726
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: Um here's what he said about this. The automation of

1727
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 1: factories has already decimated jobs and traditional manufacturing, and the

1728
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: rise of artificial intelligence is likely to extend this job

1729
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: destruction deep into the middle classes, with only the most caring,

1730
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: creative or supervisory roles remaining. Okay, that's just Stephen Hawking.

1731
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: You might say that's only one genius opinion. What does

1732
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: Elon Musk think about this? Uh quote? What to do

1733
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: about mass unemployment? This is going to be a massive

1734
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: social challenge. There will be fewer and fewer jobs that

1735
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: a robot cannot do better than a human. These are

1736
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: not things that I wish will happen. These are simply

1737
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: things that I think probably will happen. That's Elon Musk, Okay,

1738
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: another genius uh with real concerns and and thinking that

1739
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: this is going to get a lot worse. What about

1740
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 1: Bill Gates, super rich dude, most wealthy guy on the planet,

1741
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 1: I believe still quote you crossed the threshold of job

1742
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: replacement of certain activities all sort of at once. So

1743
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, warehouse work, driving room clean up. There's quite

1744
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: a few things that are meaningful job categories that will

1745
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 1: certainly in the next twenty years will go away. Um.

1746
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:37,799
Speaker 1: That's stark from some leading voices on innovation, technology and

1747
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: where the future of work is really going. The Economist

1748
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 1: has done some analysis of this too that I've been

1749
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: reading recently, and uh they they break it down into

1750
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: well that there's a piece automation and anxiety will smarter

1751
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 1: machines cause mass unemployment. So here are the competing theories

1752
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: about this. On the one hand, they look back into

1753
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 1: history and they say, well, every time there have been

1754
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: concerns about mass unemployment from technology, it has been more

1755
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: of a displacement than a destruction, meaning that when there's

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01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,719
Speaker 1: some new you know, when the automobile comes out, sure,

1757
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: buggy whit manufacturers are going to lose their jobs, but

1758
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: there are also a lot of people that are going

1759
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:26,759
Speaker 1: to have jobs in automotive plants, and in manufacturing the parts,

1760
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: and in and selling the cars, and in every aspect

1761
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: of the supply chain and the delivery and sale of

1762
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: this new product, this new and better product, which also

1763
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: of course added tremendously to the efficiency the internal combustion

1764
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Speaker 1: engine automobiles, to the efficiency of every other business. Right,

1765
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: no matter no matter what business you're in, it was

1766
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: going to be cheaper to have a car or a

1767
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 1: truck deliver your supplies than it was to have a

1768
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: horse and buggy. Right. This is just so so. Technology

1769
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:03,759
Speaker 1: and efficiency are uh from a historical perspective, always making

1770
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: businesses better. And there have been entire industries that have

1771
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: been either decimated or even gone away because of technology.

1772
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't think there are a lot of people that

1773
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: are making VHS tapes anymore, for example, in this country,

1774
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: that that's gone. But you could say, well that a

1775
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: lot of those companies probably went into c d s

1776
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: and then went into DVD s and now ur in

1777
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: the digital space, or at least some companies with their

1778
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 1: disruptions in that marketplace, we're able to do it. Here's

1779
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: the big question. As technology becomes so much better and

1780
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: so much faster, will we see not a replacement of

1781
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: jobs but just machines, uh, machines completely replacing human beings

1782
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: in entire sectors. And there is no uh, there there

1783
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: is no shift in employment that is meaningful. So if

1784
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: you have an entire it's one thing to say that

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01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, the the factory will be automated. It's something

1786
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 1: to say that all factor ease and all transport and

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01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: sail will be almost entirely automated. Uh. This is one

1788
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: of those is this time different questions? Is the new

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01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: era we're entering, especially when it comes to UH work

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01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: in the hospitality industry, service industry, sail industry. Whether your

1791
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 1: insurance salesman is stockbroker, a truck driver technology is different

1792
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: now than it was even a few years ago, and

1793
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: its capabilities exceed the wildest dreams of what were impossible

1794
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: a hundred years ago. Um, so is this a this time?

1795
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,560
Speaker 1: It's different situation When we look at employment and the

1796
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: possibility of mass unemployment in the future because of technology,

1797
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 1: that's really the question that we should be addressing right now.

1798
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 1: And like I said, from a from a perspective of history,

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01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 1: efficiency and technology just change where the jobs are. They

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01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: don't eliminate jobs. But if a certain per percentage of

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01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: jobs or certain percentage of industries can be entirely automated

1802
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: and done by technology, where does labor go? Then? Could

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01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: we be seeing a future in which there isn't a

1804
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: place for unskilled labor or even semi skilled labor, and

1805
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: you have a society where you just have a whole

1806
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 1: class of people who are not going to be employed.

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01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 1: That would lead to real social upheavalance. Very interesting and

1808
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 1: I have to say unsettling question. But Team I'll hit

1809
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 1: a quick break here and come back with some history.

1810
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: Bug Sexton with America. Now, the Freedom Hut is fired

1811
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: up as Team buck assembles shouldered as shoulder shields, high

1812
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 1: call in eight four four d buck, that's eight four

1813
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Speaker 1: four D to eight to five team. I thought it

1814
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 1: would be worthwhile to spend a little time on what

1815
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: we could call the history of of Everything, which might

1816
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 1: become a recurring segment here on the show. But as

1817
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm discussing with you concerns about new technology and what

1818
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: that technology could possibly do to employment and how innovation.

1819
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: While we love the increased productivity, the cheaper goods, and

1820
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 1: the conveniences in our day to day life, among a

1821
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,679
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other benefits we could discuss, uh, there

1822
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 1: are some who become concerned when times change. There are

1823
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: those who worry about what it will mean for them specifically.

1824
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 1: You can borrow here the uh the old phrase. I

1825
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: believe it's from Canes himself that in the long run,

1826
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: we're all dead. Uh. So some people might be willing

1827
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: to say, sure, Uh. We don't necessarily oppose technology as

1828
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: an idea or even a specific technology for what it does.

1829
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: We're just worried about what it will do to our

1830
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: day to day lives or to our employment. More specifically,

1831
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: this has been a concern that has existed for a

1832
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 1: long time. In fact, a couple of hundred years ago,

1833
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the of the nineteenth century. So

1834
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: around eighteen twelve, eighteen thirteen, you saw what became known

1835
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: as the Luddite riots or the Luddite rebellion. Um, let's

1836
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: talk about luddites. Little history of this on a Friday here. Uh.

1837
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 1: They are the original, or I should say, at least

1838
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: thought of as the original technophobes. Uh. They were the

1839
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 1: rage at the mechanical age, at the onset of the

1840
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: Industrial Revolution. This group of British Uh, textile workers were

1841
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:52,520
Speaker 1: involved in a series of uprisings, riots, kind of coordinated

1842
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: mini rebellion of sorts. Um. That has also become a

1843
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: little exaggerated. And this is where get the term luddite today,

1844
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 1: which is just anyone who's opposed to progress and technology.

1845
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 1: Right you say, oh, I hate cell phones, I'm I'm

1846
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 1: a luddite. I like the old fashioned rotary phone. Or

1847
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: I had a teacher, for example, who refused to use

1848
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: this was maybe a decade ago, but refused to use

1849
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 1: a laptop, still used a typewriter. I would say that

1850
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: he took comfort in his luddite ways. Um. But luddite

1851
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: as a term is interesting because it's really based on

1852
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 1: an apocryphal figure, a fake figure Ned Lud who never

1853
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: really existed. Ned Lud, who later on would become known

1854
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: as Captain or King Lud or even General Luduh was

1855
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: somebody that was made up. He was really an anti

1856
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: uh anti technology boogeyman. Uh supposedly lived in Nottingham for

1857
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 1: it's just like the fictional Robin Hood and people said

1858
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: when they looked or some more realistic background of Ned Lud,

1859
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,799
Speaker 1: he might have been a couple of decades before the

1860
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Luddite riots, they thought that maybe there was a guy

1861
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: named Lud or this was the fiction. I should say

1862
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: that there was a guy named Lud in the city

1863
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: of lester Um and he supposedly he was told that

1864
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing a good job knitting and his boss

1865
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: got on his case, and so he got angry. This

1866
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 1: blood character got angry and destroyed destroyed the mechanism he

1867
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 1: was using in order to do his job as a

1868
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: as as somebody working in textiles. So he destroyed that

1869
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 1: and that was what they seized on to create this

1870
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:51,600
Speaker 1: to conjure this character of Uh Ned Luod or or

1871
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: King Lud, who lived in Sherwood Forest like Robin Hood.

1872
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: He was, and he was really a social justice warrior

1873
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: before before anyone used the term. But the Luddite rebellion

1874
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 1: is a little more complicated than is often thought of,

1875
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: because now Luddye is just this term for anyone who

1876
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 1: is afraid of technology, who has concerns about what we'll

1877
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: do to their their industry. At the beginning of the

1878
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: nineteenth century, there was a lot of economic turmoil and

1879
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: British working families in the textile industry, which was widespread

1880
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: in parts of England, parts of the parts of Britain,

1881
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: they were concerned about their ability to maintain wages. This

1882
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 1: really was a an organized labor protests before that was

1883
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: a term that was thrown around and used um and

1884
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 1: by the way, families would go hungry. I mean, there

1885
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 1: was no welfare state, so concerns over the future of

1886
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: one's industry and business weren't just a function of whether

1887
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: wages were high enough. But it was a question in

1888
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: some cases of revival for these families. And there had

1889
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 1: been a lot of taxation from the British government to

1890
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: support the wars against the war against Napoleon uh and

1891
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: and poverty was widespread and and you know, this was

1892
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: something that was fertile ground for a movement that just

1893
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 1: decided to take force into its hands and lash out

1894
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: against this perception of exploitation. Because the truth is that

1895
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: the textile industry as it was getting going, as there

1896
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: were more improvements in it, UM, the the Luddites or

1897
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 1: the people that were part of the Ludite rebellion, weren't

1898
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: opposed to using the new technology. They were destroying the

1899
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: technology as a form of protests. They were destroying the

1900
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 1: uh machinery that made the textile work much easier and

1901
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: more efficient. UM. So that that that it was. It

1902
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: was a protest. It wasn't that they refused to use it.

1903
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: And they were worried that after developing years of a

1904
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 1: skill set that was applicable to their job, that they

1905
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 1: could be replaced with less skilled labor. So it's not

1906
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 1: it's not that they hate technology. This wasn't some uh

1907
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:19,759
Speaker 1: desire for technological regression so much as it was social

1908
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: upheaval that came from the increase of this technological UH. Well,

1909
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 1: the increase in technology that meant that you didn't need

1910
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: to be quite as trained. And of course then also

1911
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 1: there were concerns about exploitation by the labor bosses. And

1912
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: this was all as well part of the grist for

1913
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 1: the mill, so to speak, of what would become the

1914
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: Marxist socialist movement and the proletariat versus the bourgeoisie. And

1915
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: with the Industrial Revolution you saw a much greater focus

1916
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 1: on that conflict between worker and owner, between the bourgeois

1917
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: and the proletariat, and struggle in a new context. Right.

1918
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 1: It was no longer the class struggle between feudal lords

1919
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,959
Speaker 1: and surfs. It was the class struggle between the owners

1920
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: in the cities and owners of the industrial factories and

1921
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: the workers. So Luodites were at the early stage of

1922
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 1: that and there were some very real fights that broke

1923
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 1: out as a result of this um there over about

1924
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: a seventy mile part of northern England. There were protests

1925
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 1: that would go on and they weren't just approached they

1926
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,560
Speaker 1: were riots. I mean they would smash and destroy factories

1927
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 1: and sometimes they would they would set factories on fire.

1928
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: In one of the worst incidents in eighteen twelve, they're

1929
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 1: about two thousand protesters that surrounded a mill near the

1930
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: city of Manchester. But the Loodites got the worst end

1931
01:51:56,080 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: of it. They were fired on by the owners security

1932
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 1: guards UH and three were killed and eighteen were wounded

1933
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: UH and then the next day in clashes five more

1934
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:11,799
Speaker 1: were killed. So there were sometimes exchanges of gunfire between

1935
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 1: defenders of mills and places like Yorkshire um and and

1936
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 1: Manchester with the Luddites, But overall this was a a

1937
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:25,640
Speaker 1: destructive protest movement UM and they were often attacking the

1938
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: stocking frame, which was a knitting machine, so that was

1939
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: one of the that was one of the tools that

1940
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 1: they were most concerned about UM. And that was not

1941
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: that they didn't want to use it at all, but

1942
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: it's that they were worried again that they could be

1943
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 1: their wages would be undercut and they would have no

1944
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:46,679
Speaker 1: bargaining power against the owners, and that their families would

1945
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: be out in the cold and there was nothing that

1946
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: they could do about it. UM. By the way, Luddite

1947
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: is really a form of UH saboteur. And what's interesting

1948
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 1: to me is that the term uh saboteur or sabotage

1949
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:04,759
Speaker 1: has some some interesting origins here right, because the Latites

1950
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 1: were sabotaging machinery. In fact, the term itself sabotage comes

1951
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 1: from a term in French saboteiro sabotage. These are French

1952
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: words that the England English adopted uh from around around

1953
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 1: the same period they would uh they they would refer

1954
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 1: to sabotage as using a wooden shoe that people would wear,

1955
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: the sabot um. And it also has similarities with a

1956
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 1: term that some of you may know as a savat.

1957
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,799
Speaker 1: Savat means well, savata is actually a form of French

1958
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 1: martial art, believe it or not that involves uh, lots

1959
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: of kicking, and so that's where you get So you

1960
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 1: get the term sabotage from French comes from a and

1961
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 1: saboteur comes from the Old French word sabot, which is

1962
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 1: a wooden shoe. And the etymology is as a little

1963
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 1: on clear, but people have at least been told for

1964
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: a long time this is disputed that the workers in

1965
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: the early days of the Industrial Revolution would throw their

1966
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 1: sabot their shoe into machinery and it would mess up

1967
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 1: the machinery and then they could go home. And this

1968
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 1: was a form of protest as well. Um. And that's

1969
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: how we get the term. And it's from the Middle

1970
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: French sabots from Middle French savat, which is old shoe

1971
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 1: and Savada is also s A V A t E

1972
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: is a French martial art um that is boxing with

1973
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 1: some high kicking into as well. Who knew the French

1974
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 1: have their own martial arts system believe it or not.

1975
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: My friends, so and I wanted to give you a

1976
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: little background on the uh Luddite rebellion. I thought you

1977
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: might find that interesting. Um and uh it's it's Friday,

1978
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: so a little history to send you home on Friday.

1979
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: It is not a bad idea always, uh, team, please

1980
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,480
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1981
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,080
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1982
01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:00,720
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1983
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1984
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1985
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1986
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