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Speaker 1: On today's Drive to the Draft podcast, we got linebackers, safeties,

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Speaker 1: and stars.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, this is the way.

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Speaker 1: The NFL defensive hook player middle.

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Speaker 2: Position is going.

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Speaker 1: Man, and there are a lot of good football players here.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Washington Commanders fan, make sure you stay tuned.

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Speaker 3: Let's argue over blue chip play. Let's argue what everyone

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Speaker 3: wants to hear.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got our three round mock draft where

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Speaker 1: we trade back into the second round.

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Speaker 2: That was a coop, Jason. We did a great job there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Kansas City Chiefs don't know what's coming. Al

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Speaker 3: Peters is He's coming for your picks.

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Speaker 2: Man, It all starts right now.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Drive to the Draft Podcast. I am

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Speaker 3: just a guy, Jason, and I am sitting here with

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Speaker 3: ten year NFL VET Logan paus It.

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Speaker 2: What's some buddy? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm excellent. I had a lot of fun, you know,

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Speaker 1: like this last weekend. Obviously spend time with the family,

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Speaker 1: but I had a lot of fun doing this position

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Speaker 1: group this. I feel like there's a lot a good

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Speaker 3: So linebacker is one of those things. So here's what

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Speaker 3: we're doing today. Sorry to kick it off the top.

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Speaker 3: We're doing a Top twelve today and we're mixing linebackers

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Normally, in previous seasons we've done either Top five safeties

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Speaker 3: all those in one episode, or we'll do DBS blend

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Speaker 3: safeties and cornerbacks all together. But in this instance, in

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Speaker 3: this year and the way that the league is moving, Logan,

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Speaker 3: you said to me, let's scrap that, Let's take linebackers

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Speaker 3: in safeties kind of put them together because the league's

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Speaker 3: kind of moving more through this kind of star like

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Speaker 3: the same attributes. Now I'm putting words in your mouth?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 3: But that's how I took it when I evaluated this

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Speaker 2: I think that's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing is like, now, like

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Speaker 1: there's some players that I see on your list already

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Speaker 1: Oftentimes other teams will have that person like obviously Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you felt about it, but how

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is why the current NFL that's

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Speaker 2: Players that can fill these roles at the NFL level. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent. And maybe next year

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Speaker 3: we'll just need to do top ten linebackers, top ten safeties.

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Speaker 3: And the reason I say this, I had a really

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad you said that, because like we're going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say two things. The first one,

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Speaker 3: So these are names I think as Commanders fans, you

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Speaker 1: You probably want to know these names for sure, especially

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Speaker 1: It's funny, like I kind of think of it as

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Speaker 3: teaching me this right like, as we're doing this process,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of how I was looking at it. All right,

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Speaker 3: So let's jump into it. Because we have twelve, we

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Speaker 2: What's going on.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do my twelve to ten. You do

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Speaker 3: So my number twelve is a safety. This is Michael

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Speaker 3: Taffy from Texas.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 3: My number eleven is a linebacker, Tiantay Lawson from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Okay Taffy from Texas. He's six foot one ninety two,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any think So the first thing I want to

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Speaker 3: like you can tell you a love football. He has

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Speaker 3: going to play that for you, right. It brings that

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Speaker 3: Well let's say Bud Clark because I'm gonna have a

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Speaker 1: So Bud Clark is a high kind of too high player, right,

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Speaker 1: Josiah Trotter and Robert Spears Jennings or the other two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you do dude Trotter, then I'll do

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Speaker 1: So Josiah Trotter a middle linebacker number forty from Missouri.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of a squatty body. I mean, he's listened

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Speaker 3: don't know if you saw again? That kind of war

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Speaker 1: Very well and very fast, physical, uses great his everything

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Speaker 1: But here it's like, you know, what are you actually?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he is if Jeremiah Trotter had a sun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what he is. That's what he looks like.

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Speaker 2: So that's pretty good. Yeah, all right, So I want

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I always pull up my notes because I want

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Speaker 3: I put that in there because coaches love that sort

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Speaker 3: And he plays like that true mic linebacker kind of position.

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Speaker 3: He's sudden and quick, arrives with power to the target.

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Speaker 1: Sideline the sideline I agree there is some kind of

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Speaker 1: It's not his fault Alabama. They don't really ask those guys.

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Speaker 1: It's like they are run players. Yeah, they're downhill in

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Speaker 1: Again, he's probably on in pre mention because of some

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Speaker 3: Trigger sudd and quick arrives with power. Two time team captains,

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Speaker 1: I think that's totally fine. You want to do Harold Perkins?

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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I can do Perkins. All right, we're getting there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: really fast, like he's like fast and furious, just really

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Speaker 3: wants to go triggers with speed violence. He's a little understize,

435
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,880
Speaker 3: but as a star undersize is like you're a true

436
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 3: Mike linebacker.

437
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,360
Speaker 2: But as the star.

438
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,640
Speaker 3: Player, I think he could fit that role relatively well.

439
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 3: I concern his coverts where he can drift, he can

440
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 3: kind of get out of his eyes, kind of get

441
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 3: lost like coverages one of the hardest things for me

442
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 3: to look at on film. But it looks like he

443
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 3: kind of goes to a spot and drifts a little

444
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,919
Speaker 3: bit and then a window opens and it's I don't know,

445
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 3: maybe that can be coached up. Maybe somebody else is

446
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 3: doing something wrong.

447
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 2: I don't know.

448
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it looks like that. But I think the

449
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 3: chase speed, I'm not sure. I don't know.

450
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 2: Right.

451
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 3: What I'm saying here is that some of the athleticism

452
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 3: I can see, but some of it I'm like, I

453
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 3: want a little bit more, And I think maybe that's

454
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 3: because of the ACL right, Like I want him to

455
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Speaker 3: be a tad bit faster. I want him to be

456
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 3: a tad bit quicker with a click and close, right,

457
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Speaker 3: I think, just like these things, just a tad bit more.

458
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Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if it's the A C. L from

459
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Speaker 3: the last year he's still trying to get over, and

460
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Speaker 3: if it is, I think we got some.

461
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Speaker 1: But I like the way you describe him there with

462
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Speaker 1: like that stick of dynamite approach, because like if you

463
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Speaker 1: watch his like splash plays, you're like they're big.

464
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 2: You're like, oh yeah, who is that guy?

465
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Speaker 1: The thing, the thing I agree with kind of everything

466
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Speaker 1: you said, like playing that star spot is so tough

467
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: in college, Like I think back to Kane Madrano, Like

468
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 1: Caane ran a four to four and really can move

469
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Speaker 1: around long and really swivel hips. There's not he doesn't

470
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Speaker 1: have that kind of athleticism. He's like a I'd agree,

471
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Speaker 1: he's like a downhill kind of hit you in the

472
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Speaker 1: face type of guy. The thing that kept him out

473
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Speaker 1: of my list is he looks like he runs a

474
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Speaker 1: little hot, little cold for me, okay, And so what

475
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Speaker 1: I mean by that, like there's times where it's like, hey,

476
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: ball's going away, I'm not gonna run to the football

477
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: right or I'm gonna get a little sticky on the block,

478
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Speaker 1: And so I kind of put him in there. I

479
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: kind of put him in the Eric Gentry linebacker from

480
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Speaker 1: USC category where it's like there's some splash and some nuance.

481
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Speaker 1: We can rush, we can blitz, but there's something about

482
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Speaker 1: you that I'm just it's more developmental, right, And and

483
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Speaker 1: the work ethic thing or the not a work ethic thing,

484
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: the finishing thing that always if you want to piss

485
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: logan pulsing off when you're watching film, don't finish to

486
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: the football, like that'll get me. And so I'm not

487
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Speaker 1: saying that's Sometimes coaches are okay with that in college

488
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Speaker 1: Like I for example, like I work with the Shawn Shriveling. Right,

489
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Speaker 1: he goes an ole miss and so I'm like, man,

490
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Speaker 1: what what is this. He's like, that's our The coach

491
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Speaker 1: lets me like, that's our take the playoff play and

492
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Speaker 1: I'm like what do they call? He's like take the playoff? Like,

493
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't have a rowdy's rest. No, He's like,

494
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Speaker 1: that's it. And so there are those moments in college

495
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Speaker 1: football where that doesn't really jive with my old school

496
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Speaker 1: football mentality. So like, yeah, so I would need to

497
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Speaker 1: talk to him and figure that out. But the I

498
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Speaker 1: agree the athlete explosive when he sees it and goes

499
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Speaker 1: You're like, ooh yeah, yeah.

500
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Speaker 3: I mean seventeen sacks, eight force fumbles in his career,

501
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Speaker 3: Like he can.

502
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Speaker 2: Get after he's got some juice.

503
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Speaker 3: But it's a stick of dynamite thing. It's not all

504
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: the time. It's when that fuse goes off, it can

505
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Speaker 3: be explosive.

506
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Speaker 1: And those explosive players are the things that keep you

507
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Speaker 1: coming back, and then it's the stuff in between you're like,

508
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Speaker 1: I wish this was just a touch better. So yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: he's just off my list kind of in that Eric

510
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Speaker 1: Gentry obviously, the other guy that you have on your

511
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Speaker 1: list is Kyle lewis kind of in that category for

512
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Speaker 1: me where there's things you're like, oh, just a little

513
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Speaker 1: bit more. But I think good football player that needs

514
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Speaker 1: to be in the right environment to really foster growth.

515
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Speaker 2: So this is this is one.

516
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Speaker 1: That I think is really interesting because I actually read

517
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Speaker 1: your review of this player.

518
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Speaker 2: Which is before you watch them, or yeah, before I.

519
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Speaker 1: Watched him, right after I watched him, because I was like, man,

520
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: why does Jason have him so low on his list?

521
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: So Robert Spears jetting from Oklahoma. He's six He listened

522
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: at sixty two, but he's like six one and a half.

523
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: He's like two hundred and ten pounds of the combine

524
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Speaker 1: run a four three forty jumped really well, thirty two

525
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Speaker 1: and a half inch arms.

526
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Speaker 2: Dude's got like check check, check, chick check.

527
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Speaker 3: So let me let me let me read it.

528
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Speaker 2: I read it, and then you react.

529
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Speaker 3: In real time. Go ahead, Yeah, okay, okay, So I

530
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Speaker 3: wrote size and speed with an act for stopping to

531
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Speaker 3: run a prospect that will be seen with rosy glasses. Right,

532
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 3: he's alien length arms that help him in coverage, yep,

533
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: where I think he's a little weak. Okay, tackling technician.

534
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Speaker 3: Ball production is a noted plus. However, I saw in

535
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Speaker 3: man coverage sometimes he has a little lack of awareness

536
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Speaker 3: of where the ball is once it's in the air,

537
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Speaker 3: and you're betting on traits and run stopping mentality, and

538
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Speaker 3: you want to work with him getting better in that coverage.

539
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Speaker 2: So I mean, I went you watch CLSU game.

540
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Speaker 1: I think you said, right, So I went back and

541
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Speaker 1: watched y'all twenty two of that, and I think the

542
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: thing with him is like I feel like he can

543
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Speaker 1: do anything on the football field, which is why it's

544
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Speaker 1: high for me. And there's some inconsistencies. Right, So there's

545
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Speaker 1: times where he's the box player and he's taken on

546
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Speaker 1: a pulling guard right, using a long arms shedding guard.

547
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: It's like working to the running back. He's triggering on blitzes,

548
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: he's fighting through on screens. The run stuff really pops

549
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: for him, right. And in the LSU game, they've got

550
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think Baron who ran the four to

551
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: three At the combine, he's running on like a box

552
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: fade like step for step with him. Right, he's running

553
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: on crosses, step for step with him.

554
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Speaker 2: Right.

555
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a perfect coverage player, but you

556
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: see the raw horsepower. Like, for example, if I was like, hey,

557
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: Harold Perkins, go cover this guy from the slot, I

558
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel as comfortable because he doesn't have the juice

559
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: to the juice right, So there are some issues with him. Again,

560
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: very aggressive to the run. Like in the LSU game,

561
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Speaker 1: they run like a double pass and he is like

562
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Speaker 1: he could not have been more on the first pass

563
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Speaker 1: if he wanted to, Like he was like a dog

564
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Speaker 1: on a bone.

565
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Speaker 2: Right. They throw it right over his head.

566
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Speaker 3: Right.

567
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of times where you know they're in

568
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Speaker 1: four x one. It looks like he's on the right spot.

569
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Speaker 1: I think he's playing the four receiver side. They're in

570
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Speaker 1: cover three hook players are up on play action fakes.

571
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: He looks like he's in a bad spot. So I

572
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Speaker 1: actually thought, and I watched a couple of games. I

573
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Speaker 1: watched that game, watch the Missouri game, and watched there

574
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Speaker 1: was one other game that I watched, but basically I

575
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Speaker 1: came to the conclusion and again, I I'm a little

576
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: confused by the player because when you look at nationalists

577
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: and stuff like, people are not talking about him with

578
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: like glowing But when I see how he tackles the run,

579
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Speaker 1: when I see how he defeats blocks, when I see

580
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: how he covers in Mando Man situations, not always but

581
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: Mando Man situations, I'm like, this is Nick Ammon Warri

582
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: from last year, and I think his film is better.

583
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Speaker 1: So that's where I'm kind of like, I don't understand

584
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: why people aren't higher on him because I think all

585
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: those fundamental things you want, like a star Buffalo Nickel,

586
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Speaker 1: maybe not the true post safety to do.

587
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Speaker 2: He does at a really high level. And that's why

588
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Speaker 2: I like him quite a bit.

589
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: Well, this is why you were Logan Paulson, ten year

590
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: NFL VET and the draft analyst expert, because you did

591
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Speaker 3: something that just a guide didn't do. You are able

592
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Speaker 3: to look at defenses and understand a little bit better

593
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: what's going on there than I do. I'd be the

594
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Speaker 3: first to admit to you when we were walking over here,

595
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: we were talking about him, and you're like, what do

596
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Speaker 3: you think here? And I'm like, well, I don't see

597
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: the things that you do right, right, I'm just not

598
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Speaker 3: as skilled in that. I'm not an expert in that.

599
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: So to me this way and you just educated me,

600
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: and I love it. That's why I love this podcast,

601
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: because I get to learn from you and a bad

602
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: job by me. I only watched one game. Now in

603
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: this instance, I'm trying to fly through these guys. That's

604
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: an excuse, but I should at least watch two. I

605
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: should at least watch too, because I never know if

606
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: this is a bad game a good game, and get

607
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 3: a better feel when you watch at least two, sometimes

608
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Speaker 3: even three. Right sometimes I mean with the edge rushers, specifically,

609
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Speaker 3: when I had gave myself a little more grace sometime

610
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: earlier in the season, I'd watched their PFF worst grade

611
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Speaker 3: of game, best grade of game, middle of the Road game.

612
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 3: I did that for every player. Didn't have that here.

613
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: I just wanted to get a good quick feel on them.

614
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Speaker 3: That's also why this happens.

615
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Speaker 1: That's also one of the problems when we do two positions,

616
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Speaker 1: because you try to watch you know, ten to fifteen

617
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Speaker 1: of each guy, and that ends up being thirty guys

618
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Speaker 1: in a week. So give me a little bit of

619
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Speaker 1: a tight turn.

620
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Speaker 3: It's not an excuse. We're doing by We're doing like

621
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Speaker 3: I should be on top of this. I'm just saying

622
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Speaker 3: that is I'm but to your point, that job by me.

623
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Speaker 3: A lot of people have them way lower than I do.

624
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: But I just see I think I see a lot

625
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: of potential here. The athlete, the length, the movement, skills,

626
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: it's there. I just again like the physicality is something

627
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: that really jumped out to me too. All right, let's

628
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: do your nine to seven here.

629
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Speaker 1: Nine to seven, these are like kind of where the

630
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: linebackers start coming off the board.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's uh CJ. Allen from Georgia.

632
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech, and Jake Galladay from Cincinnati.

633
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: All right, let me write that down. Yep, So I

634
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: got it, all right. I have a safety and number

635
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: nine here Xavier Wakpa Wakpa Nowaka from Iowa. I'll learn

636
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: that by draft night.

637
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Speaker 2: I think he's a stud, by the way, he's just

638
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: off level stud.

639
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: Number eight is Kyle Lewis, linebacker from pitt and number

640
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: seven was your number eleven, Bud Clark, the safety from TCU.

641
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 3: So let's start with Bud Clark. So talk talk to

642
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: me a little bit about Bud Clark.

643
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Speaker 1: There's not a lot to dislike about Bud Clark. He

644
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: produces the football interceptions. I think he's got fifteen over

645
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: the course of his career. I mean, he's got great range,

646
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: He's got great coverage skill. Like we talked about, you know,

647
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: Robert Spears Jenning's coverage ability. There's a little bit of

648
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: linebacker to him, little bit of stiffness. Bud Clark gets

649
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: all fluid. It's like exactly what you want to see.

650
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: Got great instincts of the football. He's wooling tackler. The

651
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: reason he is eleven for me and not significantly higher

652
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: his dude is banged.

653
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: Up injury twenty twenty one, twenty two, and twenty twenty.

654
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Five, and so like I looked at how much I

655
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: like Jordan Tyson, for example, he's banged up all the time.

656
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: Bud Clark banged up all the time. I think it

657
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: has to factor into like, I love you, you're a

658
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: good football player, but you know, best of best ability

659
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: is availability, and I just have questions about his availability.

660
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: Six ran a four to four to one shows up

661
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: on tape.

662
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: Fifteen career interceptions even with being banged up. So the

663
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: ball production is here. That's not everything, but it does matter.

664
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: Remember the Senior Bowl. He was awesome at the Senior Ball.

665
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: Awesome at the Senior Bowl.

666
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Maybe the best defensive player.

667
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: Here's what I camped them to. You ever seen the

668
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: movie Everything everywhere, all at once. That's kind of how

669
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: he is.

670
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: Man.

671
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: He wants to do it all. He seems like a

672
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: smart player, technically sound with his footwork, with his tackling ability.

673
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: He knows when to use the hit stick and when

674
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: to just make the sure tackle right. There are times

675
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: where players want to make a big hit, it doesn't

676
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: land exactly right and a guy gets ten more yards.

677
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: He's going to know when to make that hit. He's

678
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: going to know that there are people around him, or

679
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: this is a play where I have to stop him

680
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: before line. That's when the hit stick comes out. I

681
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: love that he has that awareness right when playing. Not

682
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: everybody has that. But he's also super aggressive. Sometimes he's

683
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: a hair off with angles like.

684
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't think everybody is right.

685
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: Struggles a little bit in the run game coming down,

686
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: but I mean, I don't know, man, he seems fantastic.

687
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: I put him in the weight room, let him fill

688
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: out the I.

689
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: Think that was the other thing that was a little

690
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: bit shocking to me. It's like when you watch him,

691
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: he looks really slight. Yeah, like the film on the

692
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: All twenty two he looks really skinny. And again he's

693
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: one eighty eight I think you said right five. Yeah,

694
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: So he's he's a he's a slight build kind of

695
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: guy and he has a really aggressive play style, so

696
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me a little bit of Cam Skataboo

697
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: and Away last year, where like, you play super hard,

698
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: it plays all the time, and are you just going

699
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: to be piling up injuries because of your aggressive play style? Again,

700
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: love the player, no notes, he's in my top twelve,

701
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, good football.

702
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: He's a guy that I feel like if he were

703
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: to start to fall let's say third round, maybe even

704
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: into the fourth because of this injury thing. Oh yeah yeah,

705
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: no lottery ticket, really good lottery tickets.

706
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: Like he's going to be a starter, I think at

707
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: some point.

708
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: All right, do you mind if I talk about the

709
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: safety exaviera walkba Yeah, go for it. Iowa, all right,

710
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: six two and a half two and eight pounds are

711
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: in a four four eight. Oh look I wrote down

712
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: his pronunciation. It's wampa wampa, yeah, wampa silent and man,

713
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: look at me. I should have looked that up earlier.

714
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: All right, exavier wampa. All right, so hammer time when

715
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: he comes in, Man, he might be a diamond and

716
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: a rough for me a little bit. This guy wants

717
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: to hit someone face out of alignment. He's super aggressive,

718
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: brings out warhammer in with him. He has good feeling

719
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: coverage absolutely excels I think in the blitzing in the

720
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: downhill attack.

721
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: I disagree.

722
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, his speed plays really good sideline. The sideline,

723
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: I think. And he can get stuck sometimes and change

724
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: a direction hips maybe, and he can work one his

725
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: man coverage skills, but uh, I think his strength is

726
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: there to cover tight ends if he needs to. And

727
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think this is a really

728
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: nice player, just a really overall nice player.

729
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, very physical downhill. Love how he tackles. He's a

730
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: hitter as well as a tackler, which I like a lot.

731
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: I think he's got decent range. He played a lot

732
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: of posts at Iowa, which I think is not what

733
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: he's excellent at. I think you want him down near

734
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: and around the line of scrimmage again, like kind of

735
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: that you know Robert Spears jetting role, where we're attacking,

736
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: we're taking on linemen, we're using our physicality, we're using

737
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: our length, and the speed against shows up. I think

738
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: he's decent in coverage. I probably prefer him as like

739
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: a zone player. But again, I think the one thing

740
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: he's a little bit lower for me because I think

741
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: he had a pretty significant injury in twenty twenty four,

742
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: missed most of the year and missed some games in

743
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five as well. Like he's kind of in

744
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the same realm as Bud Clark, like plays super hard,

745
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: plays super physical. It plays even more physical, maybe the

746
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: most physical safety in the class that I watched. But

747
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: the injury thing is something that kind of pops up

748
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: for him a little bit so, and I'll.

749
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: Look up exactly what those injuries are. I didn't write

750
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: it down, but you're right, he did miss He did

751
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: miss some time, which is important. That's another reason why

752
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: him and Bud Clark are further down. I would put

753
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: them up a little bit higher because I do love

754
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: their their play style.

755
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, he mixed he missed.

756
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: One, two, three, four or five six games this year.

757
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I knew there was something yep.

758
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's save c J. Allen because I'm going

759
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: to have him in the next perfect line up here.

760
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna save Rodriguez as well. So talk to me.

761
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: About uh Jake Golladay.

762
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: Jake Galladay.

763
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: So, Jake Galladay is a star player. So obviously teams

764
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of handle it one of two ways. They handle

765
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: it with a safety like Robert Spears Jennings or you know,

766
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: Kyle Lewis type body type who's you know, five eleven,

767
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds. Cincinnati chose to put Jake

768
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: Galladay out there, who's six' four two dund two hundred

769
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: and forty one pounds of the. Combine and the thing

770
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: THAT i loved about him is he is a linebacker

771
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: body reminded me again a little bit of like Uh

772
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Cay madrono right linebacker. Body but Plays they have him

773
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: do a lot of coverage stuff out, there like where

774
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: he's matching, receivers rerouting, guys getting, depth playing a little

775
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: bit of man.

776
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: Coverage he's a good. Blitzer it can rush.

777
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: As a kind of stand up three to four outside,

778
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: linebacker DEFENSIVE nd type body. Type he's got some of

779
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: that to his game as. Well had a great ten

780
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: yard split IF i remember, correctly and is physical and

781
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: urgent to the. Football he's a little bit tight, hipped

782
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: a little bit narrow at the, waist which gets me

783
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: a little bit.

784
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Concerned BUT i love the, player. MAN i think he's extremely.

785
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: PHYSICAL i THINK i love the fact that he's got

786
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: this body type and was asked to do coverage, things

787
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: which is so unique in this linebacker.

788
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: Class, absolutely you didn't Do Kyle. LEWIS i didn't Do Kyle.

789
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: Lewis all, right let me pull Up Kyle lewis.

790
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: Here he's From.

791
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: Pitt he's another guy who's, like you're going to start

792
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: to see. That the way THAT i evaluate these safeties

793
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: in linebackers is on a mentality, thing right. Yep six to, two,

794
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: sorry not too six foot, two twenty four five, three long.

795
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: ARMS i think he's athletic as hell man and with

796
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: really good, speedy good explosive, burst good coverage, skills and

797
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: long arms when tackling triggers a little. Delayed he's not, big, yeah,

798
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: Right like uh kind of looks like a safety almost

799
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: like a little bit.

800
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: Smaller he looks small on film to.

801
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: Me, yeah, yeah, yeah he can get stuck in the

802
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: mud at times with his. Movement BUT i think he

803
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: could PLAY i don't think you would play him at.

804
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: LINEBACKER i think he would playhim at.

805
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: Safety he kind of kick him.

806
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: Back he's just to his frame and size just Doesn't.

807
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: This makes me. Nervous it's like starting to cut you.

808
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Off but like the, linebacker moving to safety is always

809
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: a tough transition because like it's easier to go from

810
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: a lot of space to or easier from a lot

811
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: of space to a little. Space it's hard to go

812
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: from uh no space at the linebacker level and move.

813
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: Out and again he's playing he's pseudo playing safety here,

814
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: anyway you, know with this star kind of.

815
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: Role but he has the athleticism in the motor man,

816
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: yeah like eat and get after. IT i think he

817
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 3: has good speed and burst to close up passing windows

818
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 3: here in a. HURRY i think HE'S i think he's

819
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 3: just an interesting, prospect is the WAY i described him.

820
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: Here if you're willing to bet on him evolving into a,

821
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: ROLE i think you have the tools and traits to get.

822
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: There.

823
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: YEAH i think the MORE i watched, them the MORE

824
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: i had a hard time with. Him and WHAT i

825
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: mean by that, is, AGAIN i see all the stuff you're,

826
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: seeing like we saw it at The Senior.

827
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: Bowl it's on.

828
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: Film he's, fast he's. DEXTEROUS i don't know if he's

829
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: the best accelerator. Meeting like there's times where he's like

830
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: running to the, football and there's certain times where you

831
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: watch Like Xavier wampa and you're, like oh my, gosh

832
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: look at him just ripped to this. Thing he's gonna

833
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: be the first one. There And Kyle, Louis you're, like, man,

834
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: like unhook the trailer, Man let's get this thing. Going

835
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: and the other thing THAT i had a hard time

836
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: with is when he was mixing it, up like in the,

837
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: box he looked like he didn't want any part of, it.

838
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Right he just kind of you kind of like go

839
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: shoulder in. There offensive lineman will kind of eat him.

840
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: Up and some of these other safeties that we're going

841
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: to be talking about a, minute like they're small guys

842
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Like Bud clark is a small. Guy yeah he's one

843
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five, pounds but you feel his urgency

844
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: to shock and shed on offensive.

845
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Linemen to put his face on.

846
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: People and With Kyle, LEWIS i was kind of, like,

847
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: what why is there this reluctance because, again he's two

848
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty, pounds he's a bigger, guy and so

849
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: that was a little bit of a of an issue

850
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: for me.

851
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Just watching the.

852
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: Film and that's why he's AGAIN i, think a fine football,

853
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: player but the transition of position is. Unclear and if

854
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: you would come in there and been super, physical like oh,

855
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: yeah he'll play in the, box they'll play near the,

856
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: Box And i'm not sure if like that's what he

857
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: that's how he's, wired you know WHAT i, mean which

858
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: it makes me a little bit, Nervous but AGAIN i

859
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: like the football.

860
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: Player that's why you're the best in the business man about,

861
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: that all, Right so let's talk about so instead of

862
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: reading the next three for, Me, Yeah i'm going to

863
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: have at five and FOUR. Cj allen And Jacob, Rodriguez,

864
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: yes as. Linebackers you have them as nine and. Eight,

865
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: Yes so let's just talk about. Him, yeah all, Right SO.

866
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: Cj allen From. Georgia SO i had a hard time WITH.

867
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Cj allen for a lot of the.

868
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: Reasons at a hard time With Deontai, Lawson like he's

869
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: kind of feeding concrete stand into five, yards kind of

870
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: laterally playing the, football unlike you, Know Jacob, rodriguez who's

871
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: much more, downhill much more, aggressive Unlike josiah's water, trotter

872
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: who's much more you, know reactive downhill taking on. Blocks

873
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: so that was really hard for, me AND i didn't

874
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: really know what to do with, him and for a

875
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: while he was off my. List but then you Watched

876
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: like The Good, stuff and he, can like flat out

877
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: like Good stuff's good run to the. Football he can

878
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: run to the football and it's not maybe the cleanest

879
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: in terms of, diagnosis it's not the cleanest in terms

880
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: of like the technical.

881
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: Stuff but dude is physical.

882
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: And he's, fast and SO i was kind of, like all, right,

883
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: well like you are going to play in THE nfl

884
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: at some point where it IS i don't know, what

885
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: like to what. LEVEL i don't, know like maybe a

886
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: rotational guy for a couple of, years you become a

887
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: starter at some. Point but he has starting level athleticism and,

888
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: physicality so you're on the.

889
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: List.

890
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: YEAH i agree with that one hundred. Percent and the

891
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: REASON i had him up so high was BECAUSE i

892
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: think that that's something you can bet on ye and

893
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: feel very comfortable. WITH i think his superpower that he

894
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: doesn't do all the, time but when he does it it's.

895
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: Miraculous is his ability to mirror what running backs are

896
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: doing just moving with them is so. Good and it's

897
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: not every, time but it's often enough that you Go holy, cow,

898
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: right like that athletics athletic of a trait there is.

899
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Incredible can bring the. Hammer he can be a little too,

900
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: aggressive BUT i would rather try and turn down aggressiveness

901
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: to dut it. Up shed blocks pretty, well AND i

902
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 3: think he has like great closing. SPEED i don't know

903
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 3: if he's, fast.

904
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: He does have great closing, speed.

905
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: But that angle and the way it just, theretops.

906
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: It like pops off the.

907
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: Screen like there was a play Versus florida where they're

908
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: running his OWN rd and he kind of bites up

909
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: on the dive right and then the quarterbacks running the

910
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: perimeter and he hunts this guy. Down and he does

911
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: it all the. Time it's just there is a little

912
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: bit of, Like i'm not going to use my. HANDS

913
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: i don't cover. Well i'm not an instinctive coverage. Player

914
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: but when you see those moments you're, like they're they're

915
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: really really. Good and he's he's built, well he's six

916
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: one and a, half he's two hundred thirty five, Pounds

917
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: so like it's, there it's just it needs a little

918
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: bit more.

919
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: REFINEMENT i, think, absolutely, Yeah AND i have them high

920
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i THINK i.

921
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: Think, yeah that, place that's the, place place.

922
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: Place and then let's go To Jacob. Rodriguez i'm going

923
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: to talk about him first because the hardest THING i

924
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: have him pretty, high have him. Four. Yeah the hardest

925
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: thing about him is Like i'm making sure That i'm

926
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: not valuing or overvaluing the wrong things, Here, Okay.

927
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: AND I i he's pretty high for me.

928
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: Too it's almost LIKE i, fight not Like i'm fighting

929
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: having him. HIGHER i don't know why that.

930
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: Is he's my third, linebacker SO i like him a, lot.

931
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: Right AND i get it out Of Texas tech six

932
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: one two thirty four or five three this season is

933
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 3: for this, season just this. Season Seven forest, fumbles four,

934
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: interceptions which is eleven turnovers he's responsible. For that doesn't

935
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: that mean? SOMETHING i know you don't want to like.

936
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: It's hard to project that an interception and to at

937
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: THE C, bowl, right.

938
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: So yeahs, exactly and maybe that disappears at the next,

939
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 3: level but there it means. Something the one that stands

940
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 3: out to me is sixty three solo tackles for a college.

941
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: Season that's. Insane that's a very high amount a quick.

942
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: Trigger this dude may have the hottest motor out of everybody.

943
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: There it's just red, hot like it's steam coming. Off

944
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: and when he's going, around he's rarely flat footed in

945
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: the sense of like he's constantly in motion and the

946
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: instincts are like elite to, me AND i think that's

947
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: why the, interceptions the force fumbles come in is his

948
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: timing is right. On, yeah he's a maniac, Man he's a.

949
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: Maniac that's constant. EMOTION i don't know what his athletic ability.

950
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't know if he's a talk to your

951
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: athletes tested, fine but it look it just doesn't look

952
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: the same As.

953
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: He's not like super explosive like you know IN. C.

954
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: J allen's like chasing down that you, know gazelle out,

955
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: there like it looks like very.

956
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: Predatory, Here jacobrodriguez looks a little bit more. Analytical in my, opinion.

957
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: That's a great way to and like there's a there's

958
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: a deliberateness to, it but he does see, it he does.

959
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: Go he's got great body. Control he understands coverage.

960
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: At a high.

961
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: Level like the Reason Jake gauday's ahead of him is

962
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i Think Jay gaday presents a better, physicality, sure you,

963
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: know BUT i think in terms of instincts and all

964
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: the things that are really hard to translate to THE nfl.

965
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Level you, Know Jaco rodriguez is former, quarterback, right you

966
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: can see the intellectual cerebral side to his game, absolutely

967
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: AND i really really like the, prospect AND i like

968
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: him enough THAT i, think you, know you AND i

969
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: are both kind of outliers here and moving ahead of

970
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: a guy LIKE. C. J.

971
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: Allen, Yeah he's a tough thought to crack, ultimately BECAUSE

972
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: i don't know If i'm over valuing that mental in

973
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: that like attack the, ball get after, it get the

974
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: turnovers to, production, LIKE i don't, know because it maybe

975
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 3: that goes, away, no like and if it goes, away

976
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: what are?

977
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: You BUT i think HE'S i think the thing that

978
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: helped him a lot to talk about pre draft process

979
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: is like the.

980
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: Combine frame was very.

981
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Good it was very good and so like he ran

982
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: a sub seven three, cone he had like A i

983
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: was like a four five forty which was better than,

984
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: expected thirty eight inch, vertical he was a ten to

985
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: eleven brought like he did things that were right plus

986
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: athlete and the couple that with the instincts and you're,

987
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: like that's a second round player.

988
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: AND i should take my own advice because on film

989
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: he doesn't look like, that if that makes. Sense he

990
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: doesn't look like a top end. Athlete but at The,

991
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: combine it was, like, OH i ACTUALLY i have these. Measurables,

992
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: yeah so the, Production like one of the THINGS i

993
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: tell you THAT i try and do is to PYRAMID

994
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: a three at least have two right production film combine,

995
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: right at least have. Those so he has a production he.

996
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: Has the Film combine was. Good like the. Film MAYBE

997
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: i feel Like i'm missing, something but it's supported by

998
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: these other, things so just be happy with. IT i

999
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: don't know WHY i. Can't there's something about him THAT

1000
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: i just can't fall in love with, him AND i

1001
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: don't know.

1002
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Why Maybe i'm just a.

1003
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: HATER i love, him it's very weird to.

1004
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: Me it's the. Body it's like the lack of like that.

1005
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: Snap but, again like the production is, good the numbers are,

1006
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: good and you have them high for not loving. Him

1007
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: he's their fourth, HIGHEST.

1008
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: I, know but LIKE i could have him even, higher

1009
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: is my.

1010
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: POINT i. COULD i could fall in love with. This

1011
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 2: it's almost, like, man she's. Great, yeah, yeah everything's.

1012
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 3: Great you, laugh, right we have our finances are in, order,

1013
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: right like all this stuff is, like, man BUT i

1014
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: just don't know if it can be.

1015
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: Forever and it's a funny thing to.

1016
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: Say but because it took me a long, TIME i

1017
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Told fred on like we did another, show was talking

1018
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: to fred about, it and like it took me a

1019
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: while to come around. Him and so for him to

1020
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: be my third graded, linebacker like he's earned that one hundred,

1021
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: PERCENT i, THINK i don't think you're far, off all,

1022
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: Right so you have.

1023
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: So at number. Six so that was my five and.

1024
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: Four my number six is the safety From, Oregon Dylan Cinnamon, Enaman,

1025
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: okay so let's do your six five and.

1026
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: Four so six is Trading stukes From, arizona kind of

1027
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: the nickel safety player, There Anthony hill the linebacker From,

1028
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: texas And emmanuel. McNeil warren From toledo is my fourth?

1029
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: Player?

1030
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: Sorry who was For emmanuel McNeil, warren Who i'm surprised

1031
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: isn't on your.

1032
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: List all, right we'll get to, Them.

1033
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: Okay all, right So i'll start With trade And.

1034
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: Stukes uh, yes, Sorry i'm writting everything down SO i don't.

1035
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: Forget, okay go, Ahead who's also not on your?

1036
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: List but So i'll say this about trade And, stukes,

1037
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: LIKE i did not know who this guy was From,

1038
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: Adam but then you cut the film on Versus cincinnati

1039
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: and dude is all over the. FIELD i think you're

1040
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: in a four to three to one at the combine

1041
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: and it shows up on film like he's running people.

1042
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Down his range as a post player is. Excellent his

1043
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: man coverage skills are very. Good and the thing that

1044
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: kind of jumped out the tape for me the most

1045
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: was the physicality as attacker. Tackler, right SO i think

1046
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: about the athletic. Profile he's physical in the run. Game

1047
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't do it all the, time but he's he's

1048
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: Physically he's very sounds like secure kind of. Tackler he's

1049
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: not a big. GUY i think he's one hundred and

1050
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: eighty nine pounds something like. That, yeah so not a big.

1051
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Fella but, man can he absolutely. Scoot he can track

1052
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: the football well three three, yep yeah he. Is he's

1053
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: a special. Athlete AND i think about Like Earl, thomas

1054
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: that kind of guy that had that range in the

1055
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: back end that could just cover every blade of grass

1056
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: AND i couldn't shake, it like and it shows up

1057
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: for him like he was of the PLAYERS i, watched

1058
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: And Dylan thieneman run a fast forty. Two but he

1059
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: is the fastest, secondary you, know back end player in the,

1060
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: defense and.

1061
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: He's got good ball.

1062
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: Skills very different type of player than the players we

1063
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: just talked, about these kind of, linebacker, hitting you, know

1064
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: physicality type. Guys BUT i think HE i think he'd

1065
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: be very very. Special and SO i think he's a

1066
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: second round player and he's number six for.

1067
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: ME i THINK i should rewatch him BECAUSE i THINK

1068
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: i watched him early. On here's the first Thing i'm

1069
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 3: going to say about. Him he's twenty five years.

1070
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: Old he's a six year player right that, Area.

1071
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: So that that's doesn't that's not a, negative. RIGHT i

1072
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: don't mean that as, like, oh. UNDRAFTABLE i just mean

1073
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: like A kee mesodor your, Season. Yep the edge From

1074
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: miami your, Season like it's just something that, matters And

1075
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: i'm sure.

1076
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: People will push him down a little. Bit But, JASON

1077
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: i can't remember ever watching a safety who could run like,

1078
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: This like he can straight.

1079
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: RUN i, mean what DID i write down?

1080
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: Here really, fluid smooth and, fast excellent closing, speed, accelerates solid.

1081
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: TACKLING i, mean here's my My like his superpower obliterates.

1082
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: Screens just don't even try when he's on that, side

1083
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: he just shoots in there. AGGRESSIVE i think he gets

1084
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: stuck and shy at the line of.

1085
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: Scrimmage he's not, again that's not his like he again like,

1086
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: NO i understand a Little Bud clark.

1087
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: To his game in that regard where it's like you're

1088
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: a smaller guy And i'm with, You like he very different.

1089
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Types so like to, me this is a guy that's

1090
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: going to play deep and is a good, tackler, Right

1091
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: that's really what it comes down. To AND i think like,

1092
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: him like being like there was a play Versus. LSU

1093
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: i want to, SAY i forget who it. Was where

1094
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: they're running like a play action. Corner he's in the,

1095
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: box they run the. Corner he somehow runs down this

1096
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: corner makes a play in the football and they get

1097
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: interception because he tips the pass like he's got gasoline for. Days,

1098
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: man he covers so much. Grass so he's on the.

1099
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: List love him the, speed the, athleticism older, player a

1100
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: little bit nerve, wracking BUT i like him a.

1101
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: Lot, okay your other guy that you said you're a

1102
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: surprised he's not on my list was He manuel. McNeil

1103
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: warren Added toledo six two to two ran a four

1104
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: or five. TWO i think he's just a really traitcy. Player,

1105
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 3: yeap who can calls with that. Frame he'll cause some. Issues,

1106
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: yeah but what did you love about?

1107
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: Him? So to, me reminded me a lot Like Cam.

1108
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: Curl and WHAT i mean by, that he's like he's

1109
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: got like this nice movement dexterity to. Him so like

1110
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: in the, post he could play the, post he can

1111
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: play down near the line of. Scrimmage he's. Physical there

1112
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: is some like rawness to the angles he takes in,

1113
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: coverage to the angle he takes to the. Run, Yeah

1114
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: AND i think the Thing i'm kind of banking on

1115
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: is he's playing at a small, school AND i think

1116
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: that's going to get better BECAUSE i think the tackling's.

1117
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: Good the physicality near the line of scrimmage is. GOOD

1118
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: i think he does have ball production right and he

1119
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: can make playing the. Football his coverage skills are. Good

1120
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: so he kind of fits this like. Prototypical he's six,'

1121
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: three he's two hundred two.

1122
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: HUNDRED pounds i don't. EVEN remember i think he's one.

1123
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: Hundred, two yeah so, you know kind of this, long

1124
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: rangey really mobile athlete is The word i'm, gonna use like.

1125
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: Very loose there's not an ounce of tightness in. His

1126
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: BODY so i see That and, i'm, like man his

1127
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: upside is sky kind of like we were talking ABOUT. With,

1128
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: cj allen like where it's like you don't see it all,

1129
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: the time but the athlete and the production that they

1130
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: have in college is. Good enough, WHERE'RE like i think

1131
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: this guy's going. TO be i would probably have him

1132
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: as a high, second round low first type. Of guy

1133
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: some people or like he should go in like. The

1134
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 1: teens i'm not there yet, with HIM but i think he's.

1135
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: Very, Good okay so interesting you talked about his TACKLING

1136
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: because i said he has like it feels like he

1137
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: has two plans with the ball. Around him he's either

1138
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: going to go for a, big, hit yeah and if

1139
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: he doesn't, get it not going to rap or go for.

1140
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 3: The ball and like he does Tackle well i'm not saying,

1141
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: he doesn't but often he makes. Those, decisions yeah that

1142
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: can burn him a.

1143
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Little bit and there are times where he comes into

1144
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: the tackle like, for example like when You're Watching jacob rodriguez,

1145
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: for example he's coming in with like good tackle fundamentals

1146
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: like heads to, The side i'm. Wrapping up there are

1147
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: times where he comes in a little bit out, of

1148
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: control a, little high gets chinned by a couple, of runners,

1149
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: you know where he's a little, bit loose and it

1150
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: ends up being an. Arm tackle, the willingness the, athleticisms

1151
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: there like trading stukes is another, Example too like he's

1152
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: going to be in good position to make, a, tackle

1153
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: right he kind of will come in a little bit

1154
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: more conservatively to make. THE tackle i think maybe. A

1155
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: warranty there's a rawness, to HIM but i think you

1156
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: just got to shape it a little BIT and i

1157
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: think you'd be happy with.

1158
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: The.

1159
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 3: PRODUCT okay i have A feeling Dylan uh thinneman is

1160
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: theeneman is going to come up a little later for. You,

1161
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: Okay yeah so let's Talk About, anthony hill who is my,

1162
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: number three the Linebacker From, texas logan go. For it

1163
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 3: i'm gonna throw something. Out there tell Me if I'M

1164
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: crazy i have a. Comp form is this a? Crazy

1165
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: comp it Might because i'm going to comp him to

1166
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: A potential Hall, of Famer That. Bobby wagner, you really

1167
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: he's just, like him Like he's, mike, linebacker right that's

1168
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: what he's. Playing here but but we'll move around true three.

1169
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: DOWN linebacker i guess. My point no, wasted steps attacks,

1170
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: with purpose instinctive change of direction is, really good, triggers

1171
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: downhill slippery, through blockers like it just seems like he's

1172
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: going To BE if i, DON'T know i could see

1173
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: where he's one hundred tackles a.

1174
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: YEAR guy, I mean. I agree i think he's. Huge too.

1175
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: He's big he's six, y four he's, sixty four six

1176
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: four and, a half he's two hundred and. Forty pounds, are, big,

1177
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: dude man like just and he's got you could tell

1178
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: he's got. Big hands he wears these.

1179
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: White.

1180
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: Gloves man, He's physical like there's some stuff in coverage

1181
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: where like because he's you see a guy like that

1182
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: kind of, body type looks like a defensive ends dropping in.

1183
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: The coverage and he's got some. Good suddenness like there's

1184
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: a play where he's dropping under a like a dig

1185
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: and he ends up rounding and make the tackle to.

1186
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: The FLAT and i, was, like man this guy's got

1187
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: some better. Movement skills he's a little bit raw when

1188
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: it comes to like, hand placements taking. On block sometimes

1189
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: he gets a little bit head shoulder on. The block

1190
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: but he's so big he kind of. Kills people he,

1191
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: ran again he ran a four four seven at his,

1192
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: body SIZE and i think that. Shows up and so

1193
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: like EVERYONE. Has cj allen as the number, ONE linebacker

1194
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of. People do, to me it's this guy

1195
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: like the, athletic profile, the length the kind of.

1196
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: Movement skills, It's RAW.

1197
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: Like i only have one linebacker ahead, of them do?

1198
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: You, really yeah you have him as.

1199
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: NUMBER throw i See, which, SORRY yeah i keep forgetting

1200
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: about that, other guy that.

1201
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: Little guy don't worry about that. Little guy, BUT yeah

1202
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: i think. He's done, SO yeah i think he's a star.

1203
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: Into making. He's raw there's.

1204
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: To HIM but i think when you look at the things,

1205
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: at play, he's instinctive he's got a good, feeling coverage

1206
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: he's fine against.

1207
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: THE run i think there's something to work.

1208
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 3: With.

1209
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Them yeah AND when I Say, Bobby waggoner i'm not

1210
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: talking about. The, build yeah.

1211
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: It's different i'm just talking about like three down linebacker

1212
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: that's going to be one hundred, tackle guy instincts for.

1213
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: The, ball YEAH what i? See, Here yeah i'm not

1214
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: maybe that high, on Him but i'm very high.

1215
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: On him yeah, right yeah? All right so who is

1216
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: your three two and One and i'll give you my Three, School.

1217
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: Okay so this is is going to shock. The world

1218
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: wait did we Talk About emmanuel we? Just did we Just,

1219
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: talked okay oh yes.

1220
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: We, Did okay so Three Three dylan Thieneman From, oregon safety,

1221
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: RIGHT yeah i, love it and then Number two Caleb Downs,

1222
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: oisle state And Then sunny styles.

1223
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Number one, all right we're going to talk. About it

1224
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: i'm going to get on you. For it but first

1225
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk.

1226
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: About it let's talk About Uh, dylan, theneman yep Safety. From,

1227
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: oregon yeah, kill them kill.

1228
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: The combine and then his, film's excellent like he is

1229
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: just a high floor prospects.

1230
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: Six foot two oh, seven, four, Three, five.

1231
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah and absolutely gas.

1232
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: The combine he's a, little stiff like like very kind

1233
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: of like robotic when. He RUNS and i mean he

1234
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: will not turn. Down, anything nope like. Offensive lineman you

1235
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: get some, running back gets some, tight end get some

1236
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: he'll he'll get ejected from, the club but he will

1237
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: not turn. It, Down YEAH and i love that. About

1238
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: him he kind of plays like. This line they play

1239
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: like this inverted cover Two, At ohio so the linebackers

1240
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: play really wide and he plays at like basically middle

1241
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: linebacker but at like eight, yards deep so he is,

1242
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: in coverage he's in. The run he takes. Good angle

1243
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: his angles are a little bit up. And down he

1244
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: realizes on the speed a little bit there to kind

1245
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: of make up for. Bad angles but in terms of

1246
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: less like the highest, of floors high, floor guy, like fast.

1247
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: Physical down he'll willing to mix. It up worry about.

1248
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: The frame he hasn't, been HURT but i worry about

1249
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: it because he's the way. He plays man likesch he

1250
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: plays like. A cycle he's. A PSYCHOPATH so i worry

1251
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: about that a. Little BIT but i just FEEL like

1252
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: i know this player. Really Well, at purdue he played

1253
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: a lot in. The post did a great job with

1254
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: that played a little bit Of true nickel did a

1255
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: great job Without. A PURDUE so i just think in

1256
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: terms of like, checking boxes, great combine, physical tape runs,

1257
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: the football. GOOD instincts i think he's the third guy.

1258
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: For me he's six.

1259
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: For you Uber, consistent yeah twenty, twenty three eighty five

1260
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: tackles twenty, twenty four, seventy eight twenty, twenty five. Seventy,

1261
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: two yeah a ninety one point one coverage GRADE. From

1262
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: pff can't ask for more than that when it comes

1263
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: to stats backing up, to tape top tier, coverage guy,

1264
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: loose hips, fluid. Movement, speed yeah THE negatives i wrote

1265
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 3: down are kind of the same as, Yoursy angles but

1266
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: like he has things that make up, for that right

1267
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: and triggers. With, Violence man just like, you said everybody

1268
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: gets A little i don't care who, you are you're

1269
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: getting a little bit.

1270
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: OF it i.

1271
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: Love it THE reason I am i'm at six IS

1272
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: because I think i started valuing linebacker a little more here.

1273
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: Than safety and this is cool, because honestly he could

1274
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: move anywhere between three.

1275
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: And seven and that's why this group was, so FUN

1276
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: because i think it's like kind of, your flavor, you

1277
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: know if you're looking for a movement piece in, Your, defense,

1278
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: like Yeah dyl in.

1279
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: Your guy yeah he's my second.

1280
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 3: Overall safety so like, he's six quote unquote in. This

1281
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: list But when i'm putting my safety, list together number?

1282
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: Two? Right absolutely?

1283
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: All right so are my three? To two One Was,

1284
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: anthony hill Two Is. Sonny styles One Is. Caleb downs

1285
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 3: so we have two and. One flipped so let's talk about.

1286
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: These guys you want to start how do.

1287
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: You want to?

1288
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: Start this HERE'S what i want, To ask When Did

1289
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: sonny styles move into that top tier Group With caleb downs?

1290
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 3: For You because i'm assuming You Had caleb downs and

1291
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 3: in the, Top tier so did you drop him out

1292
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: Or move sonny in?

1293
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: OR both i think. They're both they're both the top. Tier,

1294
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: players okay so When Did sonny styles move? In there After?

1295
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: The Commine and i'll tell.

1296
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: You why, so Basically Like, caleb downs this film, Is

1297
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: crazy like it's really GOOD and i JUST had i

1298
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: think the Thing with CALEB is i just have doubts

1299
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: a little bit about the measurements like the, time speed the.

1300
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: Arm length but the film, is, Awesome Right sonny STYLES

1301
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: like i have. No, questions right his ability to cover

1302
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: like they asked him to do this thing where he

1303
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: plays in the box and then cover underneath like hook

1304
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: routes on, the perimeter and his ability to just eat

1305
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: up grass is. Like, unbelievable right he can set edges

1306
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: as an on, Ball player. He's good he's a good off.

1307
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: Ball linebacker he plays the nickel for. This defense so,

1308
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: TO me i think it was the versatility like kind

1309
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: of Of The. Kyle hamilton like everyone Was Comping caleb

1310
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Downs To, kyle HAMILTON but I see sonny Styles In,

1311
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: kyle hamilton like just that guy that can, Play anywhere

1312
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: like he could play, defensive end he could play off,

1313
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: ball linebacker he could. Play NICKEL and i just was,

1314
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: Like cool like he could Play the tampa Guy in.

1315
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Tampa too he could play a half safety if. You

1316
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: like he has that kind of range. In athleticism have you?

1317
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: SEEN it i think That Like zer york extrapolating a

1318
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: little bit with some of, that, Like yeah i'm buzzing

1319
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: under the flat from like the far hash like that's

1320
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: a lot of grass, to cover, You know AND so

1321
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: i think that was the thing that got, me thinking

1322
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: like what in terms of, what we're what we're what

1323
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: we're looking for here is underneath, Hook players like that's

1324
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: kind of what. It is and the flexibility he gives

1325
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: your defense and the physicality that he brings like is

1326
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: very unique. To him and that's not to distract in

1327
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: any Way From. CALEB downs i JUST think i think.

1328
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: THE ceiling i think the ceiling, is HIGHER and i

1329
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: think THAT'S why I said i just got to put.

1330
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: Him, number one, All Right So sunny styles Obviously The ohio.

1331
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: State linebacker he's six five two forty four and ran

1332
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: a four. Four six, that's crazy jumped out the gym.

1333
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 3: FREAKING yeah i mean there's no way. Around it explosive

1334
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: fast and that pops ability to weave and slip. Through

1335
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: traffic maybe that's, a, Superpower right like how he is

1336
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: able to it doesn't matter if. It's money it's almost

1337
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 3: like he doesn't even. Slow down he's just turning and,

1338
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 3: so fluid just flies right, through it.

1339
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: Which is.

1340
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: Pretty incredible ACTUALLY when i watch IT and.

1341
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: I have he plays like a smaller, man really, you,

1342
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: know yeah, he DOES and i think it's a great

1343
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: way To.

1344
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Put and the other, thing too, is like but what

1345
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: he's got to play big and like put his hands

1346
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: on guards, and stuff he like, shocks them like you

1347
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: can tell they're surprised by how strong. He is so

1348
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: it's just like this in terms of finding off ball

1349
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: linebackers that do what, he does have the instincts and.

1350
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: Can cover it's it's. Very special he's like he's like.

1351
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: A mutant he's like if he if he WERE an,

1352
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: x men he'd, be, like yeah that, makes, yeah yeah

1353
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: YOU'RE an, x, Men right like there are negatives, to,

1354
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: Him right like no prospect. Is perfect what would you

1355
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: say is?

1356
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: Not PERFECT SO i i think he's inexperience at, the

1357
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: position and sometimes that. SHOWS up i think sometimes when

1358
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: you see him, in coverage he still plays it like he's,

1359
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: a safety, you know as opposed to, Your linebacker like

1360
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: everything happens a, lot quicker like let's get.

1361
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: UP there i was.

1362
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: Actually really impressed with how he fit runs considering he's,

1363
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: a safety. You, know like so, to me there's not

1364
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot not. TO dislike i think if there's so the,

1365
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: coverage thing and THEN sometimes i feel like your foot's

1366
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: not always on the rev limit or like not that

1367
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: he's not, playing hard But like i'm like you should

1368
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: there should be more explosive plays, from you like more

1369
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: touches on, the football more tackles for losses that might

1370
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: be the structure of, the defense because That's what caleb.

1371
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: Down does he brings some of that spicy variety. To

1372
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: it so he doesn't have that To him and so

1373
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: Those what i'd say are probably the NEGATIVES if i

1374
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: Was gonna, but again like in terms, of yeah there's.

1375
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: The thing that's the thing.

1376
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: About him as, a prospect which is to me why

1377
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: he's like a blue chip guy is there's not a

1378
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of questions. ABOUT him i just feel like he's incredibly.

1379
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: HIGH flol i think he's an.

1380
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: Elite, Prospect yeah and when you're talking about taking a

1381
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: chance on somebody and how you want to, mitigate, risk

1382
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: right what are some things you look at? The film?

1383
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: Very good, the combine the combine incredible and then can

1384
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: you project that they will be better even though they're

1385
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: already at a certain level you want you want a,

1386
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: high floor high high? See, Them right and he's got

1387
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: all this like he could BE an x men, for

1388
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: sure and like Why would and.

1389
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: It, hurts ME but i just think his ceilings a

1390
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: little bit higher because of, the measureables WHICH is i

1391
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: hate to, do that but we're picking in it here a.

1392
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: Little BIT so I have caleb downs, at once and

1393
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 3: the reason IS because i haven't SEEN his i haven't

1394
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 3: seen his, protay Yet so i'm going to keep him

1395
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: THERE until i.

1396
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: See.

1397
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: Those right i'm not going to preemptively knock you because

1398
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: you might not BE what I what i want to

1399
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: see if you come out and do, WHAT is i

1400
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 3: don't KNOW what i expect?

1401
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: Stay there what do you that's a. Good question what

1402
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: do you expect him?

1403
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: To?

1404
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: Run like?

1405
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: ARE you i don't expect them to be, a, Burner

1406
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: YEAH and i don't expect him to be like super explosive,

1407
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: with everything but just be just.

1408
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: Be, normal, normal like don't be bad. At it does

1409
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: the length body a, little bit so that's.

1410
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: The honestly the one thing that, Got me yeah was

1411
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: the length because he measured five to eleven at, the

1412
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: combine so a little. Bit, Shorter YEAH and i think

1413
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: he was right at two, Hundred pounds so he's not

1414
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: he's not a. Big guy and when you think about

1415
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: safeties that have, gone, High, Yeah, Derwin James, Kyle Hamilton,

1416
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: sean taylor, they're big long armed guys who can match up.

1417
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: With.

1418
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: Too, yeah yeah and so.

1419
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: He's super there is not a more instinctive football player in.

1420
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: THE draft i don't Think than caleb downs like.

1421
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: HE is i haven't watched MORE than i haven't watched

1422
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 3: more of Anybody Than caleb downes because.

1423
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: It's fun.

1424
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: It's fun and what you're, saying, THERE like i don't

1425
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: want to we're talking about, his size what's? His SPEED

1426
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: like i don't want to Feel like i'm. Missing. Something

1427
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: YE and i watched Him at texas where he at

1428
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: HIS lowest pff rating sixty eight, Point, six miami where

1429
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: he had his highest at a eighty three Point Three

1430
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 3: penn state was sixty nine. Point nine So and i've watched.

1431
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: His highlights i've watched as much of HIM as i.

1432
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: POSS weekend i watch a couple, other GAMES but i

1433
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: put those in THERE because i watched every. Single snap,

1434
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: zero touchdowns allowed, Two interceptions so the ball production, isn't

1435
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: huge but people stop throwing.

1436
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: His direction.

1437
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: Zero hundred touchdowns is wild to Me because i've seen

1438
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: him play against some of these tight ends and big

1439
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: receivers where they've, been, like uh we got the short

1440
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: guy on him, Matchup, win nope.

1441
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: Didn't Matter For.

1442
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: Caleb downs he's tied for seventeenth in coverage stops, with

1443
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: fourteen so that means thrown to him and he's denied

1444
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 3: the pass, breakup basically but it just didn't for. Whatever

1445
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 3: reason sometimes it's, an overthrow so it's not. Always him

1446
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: that's what coverage. Stops means he's on the player that

1447
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 3: didn't get, the ball but he is locked on in all.

1448
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: OF these i went back and, watched them so the

1449
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 3: size thing does, matter maybe but it just doesn't matter

1450
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: when you're watching, On FILM like i don't sit there

1451
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: and go he's. TOO small i don't. See that AND

1452
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 3: then i texted you the other DAY when i Was Rewatching,

1453
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: sunny STYLES and, i said guess who keeps popping up on,

1454
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: This Thing. Caleb downs I'm Watching, sunny STYLES who i

1455
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: love and who was, a FREAK and i just CALLED

1456
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: an x men and in, His place number two keeps.

1457
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: Standing out Even With sunny STYLES And rvl reese and

1458
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: these other guys on, this defense he just. Stands OUT

1459
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: so i don't know what to do because it feels like.

1460
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: AN itch i, can't, scratch LIKE oh i Put put

1461
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: corizona on, this, guy like let's.

1462
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: GO away i put.

1463
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: Itch cream i'm doing all, this STUFF but i keep

1464
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: scratching it because it keeps. POPPING up i can't find

1465
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 3: the Antidote To. Caleb downs maybe it's his brode and

1466
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: it's the sizes are eventually going to. Scare me but

1467
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: that's why he's my. NUMBER one i can't find a

1468
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 3: major flaw like that isn't to say, he's PERFECT but

1469
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: i can't find a major flaw that doesn't a already.

1470
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: Answer itself the, size okay let's see him against big

1471
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: tight ends doesn't matter OR b i think can be

1472
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 3: isn't detrimental and the prospect part of him. Goes up

1473
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: so it's hard TO because I hear fred all. THE time,

1474
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: I know i'm like on my, soapbacks Now but fred

1475
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 3: all the Time With caleb downs now has his stick where.

1476
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 3: He goes what's the one thing he's? Good? At right

1477
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: like can we SAY that i want somebody that's elite?

1478
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 3: At something my man's eliting coverage and he has an

1479
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 3: elite mind and those are. Not tangible you can't attach

1480
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: a number, to it like a four four three with

1481
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: sunny styles and you, can't say well he has, He's

1482
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: armed like you can't, do that but that's the.

1483
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: Elite trade i'm. With you it.

1484
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: Reminds me this is going to Sound like i'm being pejorative,

1485
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: towards him but like it reminds me a little Bit Of,

1486
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: ruben bine like when You watch Trup, And bane like

1487
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: he's just a good, football player, you know good. Football

1488
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: PLAYER and I Think caleb downs is a better football

1489
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: Player Than. Rubyen bain but there's all these knits, to

1490
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: pick and the reason you pick those knits and you

1491
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: compare them to sunny styles is BECAUSE the nfl game, is, taller,

1492
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: longer faster and so how does his? Game project but

1493
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: he's been a beast since a Freshman at alabama and

1494
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: he's continued to be a beast this, Entire time like

1495
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: when you watch Him against miami And The college, football

1496
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: playoff like he's, making dynamic game changing plays and so.

1497
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 3: You don't see his size when you watch the film

1498
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: like you, see it but he is violent.

1499
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: Supposed to do on.

1500
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: The, Hips yeah i'm, With, you bann but IT'S just

1501
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 1: i worry a little bit at the ceiling again because

1502
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: of the measurements and so THEY'RE both I give i'm

1503
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: gonna PROBABLY have i, don't know probably three or four

1504
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: blue chip guys in, this class like these two, are

1505
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: THAT and i Think Probably jeremiah love but as of,

1506
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: right now.

1507
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 3: So all that's, To Say Sunny Styles Caleb dans if

1508
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: they're both on the board and Number Seven sunny styles, comes,

1509
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: Here yeah I'm ecstatic downs. Comes here i'm ecstatic, right

1510
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 3: LIKE but i can also see a World where downs

1511
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: starts dropping because of. The Measurables and i'm not saying

1512
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: like you. Should drop i'm just, saying like until there

1513
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: is something that tangibly says, uh, Oh yeah now you

1514
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 3: have to overcome. An exception and maybe it's the.

1515
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: Height thing is?

1516
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 3: He exception but like you have to overcome an EXCEPTION

1517
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: that i don't see? On film rubon ban was a

1518
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: great way to. Put, it yeah he's got an, exception

1519
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: arms but man, on film if he doesn't.

1520
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: Look awsome. Look.

1521
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: Awesome yeah, So no i'm, with, You man i'm. With

1522
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: you it's uh that's one of the TOUGHER decisions i

1523
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: think for ME and i just am playing playing the

1524
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: athletic card there for.

1525
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY right i Love These ohio. State, guys, yeah yeah what,

1526
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 3: an incredible. Incredible, team okay so what we're going to

1527
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 3: do real quickly is some. Honorable mentions do you want

1528
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 3: to just start listing, some guys but first after you

1529
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 3: do that or before you? Do that real quick We

1530
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: Had dante Walker on spotify send them. The question he

1531
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 3: sent it in a couple of, weeks ago but specifically

1532
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 3: For this, He, Said hey Logan, and jason Assuming the

1533
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: commanders select an edge in, round ONE although i don't

1534
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 3: think the rest of this question even matters, to that

1535
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: we can take anybody in, round one and, this question

1536
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 3: so could you Evaluate potential day two linebacker candidates such

1537
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: as He.

1538
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: Picked, Jake, goldey yeah love Him And. Jean.

1539
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: BARNUM yeah i think it's how. You say he's think

1540
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: a true edge guy though number One. From michigan he's

1541
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 1: like a. TRUE edge i think he's got some actual

1542
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: juice as, a, Playmaker right but in terms of off,

1543
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: Ball winebacker i'm not sure he exactly fits like what

1544
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: the question. Is Asking So JAKE galladay i think can

1545
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: play on ball.

1546
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: Off ball He's, From, Cincinnati.

1547
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah cincinnati can play the nickel like we just. TALKED

1548
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: about i think he probably projects more to that. Second,

1549
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: level barnum, for example is a True Like david bailey

1550
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: type Guy.

1551
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: From michigan i'm, Three, Eight yeah i'm gonna.

1552
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 2: Rush the, passer, Here right and he plays that way

1553
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: and he's a, football player but.

1554
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: He's a prototypical build and he's an absolute. Wild, man

1555
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: yeah and that's in the good and.

1556
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: The.

1557
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: BAD correct.

1558
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 3: I mean a WAY that i Would describe BARNUM and.

1559
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: I, don't know tell Me if, I'm, wrong yeah.

1560
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: Is that he's kind Of Like LeVar arrington THE stories. I,

1561
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 3: hear yeah just an, absolute animal wild man that looks

1562
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: the part and if you just ask him to do,

1563
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: the thing he will go do. The thing but you

1564
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 3: start asking him to do a little, bit more gets a.

1565
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: Little, TRICK yeah, i mean and again he's a pass

1566
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: rushing edgesetting ask him to player and he'll do a

1567
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: good job. With it kind of reminds me of the

1568
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: other guy That from michigan At The, senior bowl like they,

1569
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: just like if you, want them a guy with some

1570
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: pass rush, up side, some physicality, some leadership like that's

1571
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: the way. You'd go, but again not a true off ball, player,

1572
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: necessarily right.

1573
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: All right so who are some of your.

1574
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: Honorable, Mentions yeah so, for Me aj HALSEY from lsu

1575
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: is just like a football Player In jesse man like.

1576
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: He is he can play, the post he can play in.

1577
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: The box he's not, super explosive BUT like i watched

1578
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: Him Cover, eli stowers one of my favorite players in,

1579
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: the draft and man covers it a great job with

1580
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: that fits. The run he's an, aggressive tackler like he's

1581
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: just a good, football player just a good. Football player

1582
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: and then from, The Linebackers eric GENTRY from usc like

1583
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: he's a talk about unicorn. Of unicorns like he's, six'

1584
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: seven like literally he's, two hundred pounds two hundred. Twenty

1585
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 1: five pounds he had a sub seven to three cone

1586
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: at his proa and right a sub. Four five forty

1587
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: he moves. Like a spider he gets. In, Throwing lanes

1588
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: RIGHT and so i, think about again like kind of,

1589
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: these he's played he, plays middle linebacker. Plays defensive, end

1590
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: to me he is a perfect kind Of Like star

1591
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: buffalo nickel underneath, hook guy right because he's good, against

1592
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: the run he's not afraid to mix, it up right

1593
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: and the length is just something, you, CAN'T coach right

1594
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: i think you could be a little bit better in

1595
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: coverage and like man, and man situations but has great

1596
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: range and it's such a unique. Type of player adds

1597
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: value on. Teams right away such a unique.

1598
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: Guy for sure do you have anybody else that you want?

1599
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 2: To shout out are those? YOUR guys safety i means

1600
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: You Talked about.

1601
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: XAVIER wampa yep i thought he. Was really good He Talked,

1602
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: About Kyle. Lewis Harold perkins lander barton is an Interesting

1603
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: guy from utah because, he's six' five he's two hundred and,

1604
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: forty five ish pounds can, run a little bit, can

1605
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: play on ball. Can't play off ball looks. Very green

1606
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: to me but that's the type of thing that if,

1607
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: you're a commander's fan kind of plays in this, defense

1608
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: in my opinion because like That's What you know. Van

1609
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: ginkle does, right he's an, edge but, he's rushing he's

1610
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 1: dropping he's. Got some FEELING coverage there's always i FEEL

1611
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: like every, TIME i watch, him i was like give me, a,

1612
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: little bit more like let me put you, in the,

1613
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: top FIFTEEN top twenty but i could. Never QUITE get

1614
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: there but i think it's very interesting kind of developmental.

1615
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: Piece there FROM you one guy i want TO throw

1616
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: out because i just kind of Loved watching the play

1617
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,520
Speaker 3: he's Got Definite flaws Was red murdoch.

1618
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: For buffalo six.

1619
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 3: Three two forty eight? Why are you laughing Because you

1620
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: know what?

1621
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: I'm, going to say?

1622
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you're say Okay because he reminds he reminded, me,

1623
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: of a Taller Tighter and slower london fletcher in the

1624
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 3: sense of he it's like a running, into a fire

1625
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: hydrants like he just hits so hard and it's not

1626
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: even like bad in the sense of like laying a

1627
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: hitstick and missing something like he just.

1628
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: KNOWS how to hit i think tackling. OR something, like,

1629
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: that i mean, yeah.

1630
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:41,440
Speaker 3: He's got that and he's got, that like. Really stocky thick.

1631
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: Build he struggles in, coverage a, little bit really TIGHT

1632
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: hard to. GET i don't.

1633
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't know i.

1634
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 2: Don't, know if, it, plays but like, yeah you know

1635
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: either but.

1636
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 3: Man shot him out because if somebody gets him, in a,

1637
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: late round like hey let's kind of see because this

1638
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 3: guy hits people so like in to oblivion and, Has

1639
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 3: SPECIAL teams experience, like i don't know maybe we want

1640
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 3: a guy on here that's just gonna annihilate people on the.

1641
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: Other, team like.

1642
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: He finishes pursues. Hard, he's just violent me. Just a

1643
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: violent hitter the way that if You Don't look up,

1644
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 3: london fletcher's hardest hits he.

1645
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 2: Hits just like that it. Looks just like, that ye

1646
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: for sure Not as good.

1647
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 3: As London, obviously was super, no not at all, but

1648
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: like the. Impact it's the same so that that. Was my,

1649
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 3: One there all right time to. Do our mock draft

1650
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 3: so here's. What we're gonna do we're gonna. Mock draft

1651
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 3: as commanders we're. Gonna do three rounds we only have two.

1652
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 3: Picks in, three rounds but hey what happens if come

1653
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: draft day we decide in the second round we really need,

1654
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 3: A second round pick.

1655
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna trade up we're gonna trade up and. Do

1656
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: the second.

1657
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 3: Round see what's there so what we're gonna do is we're.

1658
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 3: Gonna pick at seven let the simulator take us a little,

1659
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 3: bit of the way and then we're, gonna stop, and say.

1660
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 3: All right trade here let's try. And get, up here

1661
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 3: all right so give, ME one second here i need.

1662
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 3: To start to, draft here, we go all right we,

1663
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 3: are picking at seven And We got for. Nana mendoza went,

1664
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 3: One As we know. Arvel Reese went two ruben Bain.

1665
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: Went three to arizona they don't care. About The kangaroo

1666
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 3: arms david Bailey Went For the tennessee. Sunny styles is

1667
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 3: off he Went. Five To the giants carnel tait is

1668
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 3: going to Catch some Passes. From shuder in cleveland so

1669
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,520
Speaker 3: that leaves us, one o'clock At Seven we have. Jeremiah

1670
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 3: love One Here, we have caleb downs who we are,

1671
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 3: a big fan of guys that. We Just talked about,

1672
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: Dylan Thieman is here mansor delane is here.

1673
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: For the.

1674
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: GO defense mawan noah i mean there's a.

1675
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: Lot of good football where do?

1676
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 3: You want to go what position are?

1677
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: You?

1678
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 3: LOOKING at here.

1679
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah i think it just becomes like best Football PLAYER

1680
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: of bel and i really wanted to do this before we,

1681
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: do OUR next bock but i. Ran out OF time

1682
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: just go i can watch the running backs again And

1683
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: See like where jeremiah LOVE is and where i thought

1684
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: he if he IS a, true Because I, Said Like,

1685
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: sunny styles caleb, downs blue CHIP guys and THEN i

1686
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: Think jeremil.

1687
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: I, think, Jeremiah loves air right so from.

1688
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: An offensive Playmaking Standpoint like obviously colonel. Tates off the

1689
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: board i'd probably go that direction if, This WAS a

1690
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,879
Speaker 1: thing but i think you need to. Have Some offensive

1691
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:21,919
Speaker 1: Juice And.

1692
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: I'm, GOING jeremiah. Love here i think And my argument

1693
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 3: that i'm going TO make is that i think. He's

1694
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 3: a blue CHIPPER and even though i Just Wax, poetic

1695
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 3: about caleb downs if we're going to say they're a

1696
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: little bit of like uncertainty with, a, blue CHIP player

1697
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: yep Then I would have jeremiah love just ever so

1698
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 3: slightly EDGE him out because i Don't have Any Questions

1699
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: yeah that caleb downs DOES have even if i believe

1700
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: those doubts, are maybe even fugazi like. It doesn't There's

1701
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 3: none jeremiah nor so and our running back room currently

1702
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 3: could have.

1703
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: Another, PIECE to it yeah. I, Could, See that yeah.

1704
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: NO i'm WITH you I think i. Think i totally

1705
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: agree like it's, good catching, the football power, runner, the

1706
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: whole thing. Explosive big, play threat like again in kind

1707
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: of a funny draft in terms of draft, value at

1708
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: the top it seems like, a nice, Fit potentially all right.

1709
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 3: So we want to trade back, Into the second round

1710
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: so give me a second we're going to get.

1711
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: To the second round. And here we.

1712
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 3: Are now let's pause we're. In the second round let's

1713
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 3: see where do we want to try? And trade up here.

1714
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: Trading? Back in tough deal what.

1715
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 3: Do you think like getting into. Forty ish's that round

1716
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 3: let's see what happens if we trade up into about,

1717
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 3: The fortieth pick here so. Let's go to here we're

1718
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: going to offer trade to Fortieth Pick Is. The kansas,

1719
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 3: city chiefs all. Right so that works We're not trading

1720
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: with indivision, or a major rival and they. The fortieth

1721
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 3: overall pick so what do you think you're willing to offer?

1722
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: ANYTHING from this draft.

1723
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 1: I would say if they'd be willing to do it

1724
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: for seventy one and one of, our sixth round picks

1725
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: probably they, wouldn't Be able to but i'd be willing to,

1726
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: do something like that maybe.

1727
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: Both six round.

1728
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 3: Picks they are not, Interested, in That trade okay so

1729
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 3: i'm thinking we'll probably have to. Offer, Something, NEXT year.

1730
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: Okay well i think this is the, problem about trading

1731
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: up like trading back. Would be ideal here let's just,

1732
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: talk about, draft strategy because again there are some trades

1733
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: in terms of trade value charts where you get good value.

1734
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: In the second round, like, if someone said hey we

1735
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: want To Trade, Up for jeremiah love i'm, probably trading

1736
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: the pick to be totally HONEST with Even Though, i

1737
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: LOVE jeremiah love because i think getting more pieces in

1738
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: the second round is going, to be really important and

1739
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 1: then trading into the second. Round is just tough it's

1740
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: just a tough deal. Because of the. Cost it's very prohibitive.

1741
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 3: So here is what. They're, willing to do okay tell

1742
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: me if. You're. Okay with this yep they're willing to

1743
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: trade forty so we're getting back. Into the second round

1744
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 3: they're willing to swat with us in the. THIRD round,

1745
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 3: seventy one a right we'll, give them seventy one but

1746
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 3: we're dropping, back to seventy four so it's. Dropping back

1747
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 3: three positions they also want our one, hundred AND eighty

1748
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 3: seventh which i believe.

1749
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: Is, THE fifth round yeah i think. So the sixth.

1750
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 3: Round, pick sixth round, yep hit six round and then

1751
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 3: they want. NEXT year's, third round i.

1752
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: Mean that's not terrible there's worse. Things that have happened

1753
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: if we want to, get talented this year then maybe

1754
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: that's the things, we got.

1755
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: To do all right. So let's do it maybe we

1756
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 2: got a compic next. Year, Offset that thing.

1757
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: Okay so now we're gonna boogie.

1758
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: And we. Are on the clock where would? You like

1759
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 2: to go?

1760
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 3: Do You think here and i'm going to hand this

1761
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 3: to you so you can take.

1762
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: A lot take a look.

1763
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: Real Quick At this so emmanuel pregnant is A left

1764
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: GUARD from oregon who i think is a heck. Of

1765
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: A football player brandon CIEs corner? From Where's? It from

1766
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 1: SOUTH carolina why can i never scroll?

1767
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: Down on? This thing? What? There we go nope? Mess,

1768
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 2: it up, again dude two fingers?

1769
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: You're, taking it back, nope taking it. Back Taking it

1770
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: back D'Angelo. Ponds, is, a beast.

1771
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 2: Great yeah, no kidding.

1772
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 3: All right let's see. HERE we can do i kind

1773
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 3: of want to look at what we can do on

1774
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 3: defense when it comes. To the secondary?

1775
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 2: Here?

1776
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 3: Sure is that Okay so, we Have, Brandon's Say, D'Angelo

1777
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: Ponds chris johnson keith Abney The second and scott We

1778
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: Just Talked about canty scott. Scott, a little bit.

1779
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah HE'S a Beast But i think Chris Johnson, is

1780
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: from san diego is a.

1781
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: REALLY interesting pick there i. Think.

1782
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: He's very polished obviously the one, drawback is small, school

1783
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: but good, size good movement skills ran, well at the

1784
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: combine great in, and out of cuts great feel and

1785
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: willing to. Come UP and tackle and i think when

1786
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: you want to get, deeper at the corner at, the

1787
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: perimeter corner spot he's. Got SOME of that and i

1788
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: think it may give you, an, opportunity to say hey

1789
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: what are our best four or five.

1790
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: On THE field here.

1791
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: Now i don't know that this is how, it's going

1792
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 3: to fall but ONE of the things i, see, here

1793
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 3: is like well let's just look at some. Of The

1794
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: other positions eli stowers is. Available at, tight end if

1795
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: so you want to go a Pass Catching, weapon for

1796
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 3: jaden danielson focus on the offense. Here a little bit Now,

1797
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 3: We brought in chigy so do we want to go

1798
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: tight end here and add there or do you want

1799
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 3: to stay defense because.

1800
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: That, IS a playmaker yeah i mean.

1801
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: HE'S an offensive playmaker i do think it's a little

1802
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: BIT redundant with Chig i do think, Eli could be

1803
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: special and, it depends, on, You You know obviously david

1804
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: blad would have to be really creative if that's the

1805
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: type of, positioning you're going in can you go to? A?

1806
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 3: Receiver, Real Quick, Absolutely Yeah, Chris Bell, jeremy bernard Chris Brasl.

1807
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 3: THE second skylar bell i mean there are a lot

1808
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 3: of there's a, lot of talent there.

1809
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: A, LOT of receivers there. I Mean right Now So,

1810
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: I'D say jeremy bernard. I think is special i think

1811
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: he could be. A really Good Receiver i, think CHRIS

1812
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: johnson's Special And i think eli Sower is a special We,

1813
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: just talked about eli like how that's going to be

1814
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: tough to kind of maximize him In this offense, If

1815
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: CHIG is here so I Would probably Go Chris johnson

1816
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: OR jeremy Bernard Because i think jeremy bernard could be

1817
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: A True. TO our Chris braswl i. Like chris brasel

1818
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: Too the last one i'm gonna Throw Out.

1819
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: There is bud clark this.

1820
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 3: Is still here too if you, want to go safety

1821
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 3: depending on what the defensive, scheme might look like it could.

1822
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: Be A good fit so i personally would air Ever So.

1823
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: SLIGHTLY to chris johnson i think it's just hard, to

1824
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: FIND good corners and i think he Was Very, productive

1825
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: AT san diego and i like his just the way he.

1826
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: Approaches the football game, SO it Just Stylistically i think

1827
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: chris johnson for, me would, be think all.

1828
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 3: Right let's Do It, LET'S do chris johnson. I agree

1829
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: with you i like adding depth. TO the cornerback room

1830
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 3: i think as, it stands right now we have after

1831
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 3: free agency to this point when, this episode comes out

1832
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 3: the running back room and the cornerback room could. See

1833
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: some pieces added whether it's in, THE draft or, whatnot

1834
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 3: i don't know but there could. Be more pieces added

1835
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 3: so we're taking care of it here in. The draft. Hundred,

1836
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 3: percent all right now we did keep, our third round

1837
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 3: pick but.

1838
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: We've just moved.

1839
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 3: Back so seventy four this, is where you're saying maybe

1840
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: we start, looking at wide receiver And This, is Where,

1841
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 3: Zachary Branch, Ted Hurst, Malachi Fields, dere'ssn' Stribbling brenon thompson

1842
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: who fred Likes A, LOT. From, Mississippi State, Cj daniels,

1843
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 3: reggie Virgil Eric. MCCALIS or jacobe lane i mean. LOTS

1844
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,440
Speaker 3: of good players.

1845
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean the names that pop To, Me Are, ted

1846
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 1: Hurst DeShawn. Stribbling AND malachi Fields and i. LIKE branch

1847
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: a lot i just think he's a. Little bit, more

1848
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: niche you know he's kind. Of a true Slot he's

1849
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: got some he reminds me A Little bit like tyreek

1850
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: hill that, kind of like. JITTERBUG super fast guy i

1851
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: don't know how he. Plays the deep ball that would

1852
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: be a big factor in my calculus.

1853
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: In terms of that the, other thing that's here just

1854
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 3: as kind of like huh For me is markl bell.

1855
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 3: The tackle from mine if you want to just add another.

1856
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: Piece to, a nice swing tackle really.

1857
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 3: Nice offensive line that we're starting To. Develop here for

1858
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 3: jaden just another, piece to, develop here big dude. Just,

1859
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:02,879
Speaker 3: an interesting thought.

1860
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah What about interior offensive i'm like centers. Or Center

1861
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: guard There Uh.

1862
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: Ruttlich, From Georgia, Tech.

1863
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah jake slaughter you're looking At A lot Of Logan.

1864
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 3: Jones abused, bo stevens.

1865
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: OH yeah UH yeah I mean i like Ralligs A.

1866
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: Lot from, georgia, tech very. Physical competitive good athlete slaughter

1867
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: was my number one rank center. FOR a long time

1868
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: i think would be potentially a nice value add there

1869
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: in terms of shoring up getting a young talented piece

1870
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: to kind Of, COMPETE with allig ready i does, feel

1871
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: like receiver though don't how about run we?

1872
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: Dropped the? Running, back running back yeah how about an.

1873
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 3: Edge just As Thoughts Look at Danny Denise, sutton from

1874
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 3: penn state who. Is an athletic freak production wasn't there,

1875
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 3: But Could be great romelo height who. HAS T rex Arms,

1876
01:23:54,760 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 3: Lt Overton From alabama Key. RAN crawford from auburn i

1877
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 3: mean there are some. Good players here too.

1878
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: Uh d tackle, Real, quick, of course yeah Thanks whatever

1879
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 2: you want logan?

1880
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: Uh huh all right and Defensive Interior Oh big CITRUS

1881
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 3: dominiqu's orange from i was saying, To Sit in Here,

1882
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 3: Rashad Benny from Michigan. Dante corleone from cincinnati, One Of.

1883
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: My favorites Caleb proctor you know i'm. A fan of

1884
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 3: His He'd be interesting southeastern louis.

1885
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: Because they do feel like he KIND of jives with, i.

1886
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,799
Speaker 3: ALMOST feel like though i feel like some. Of, these guys.

1887
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: Might yeah they'll be they'll be the name that sticks out.

1888
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: The most of me after his, prode after the combine

1889
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: is da?

1890
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: Sound? STRIBLING to me is i don't think he makes?

1891
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: It this far anymore LIKE for a while i thought, this,

1892
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: was very reasonable right but apparently he went to his

1893
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: pro day because he has a very Limited Route tree

1894
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: at ole miss and ran every route and scouts came.

1895
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: Away just incredibly impressed right then he runs a four to,

1896
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: three at the combine he's six to he's two. Hundred,

1897
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: and ten pounds like talk about a really Great physical

1898
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: compliment to terry mccorn and a guy that could be

1899
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: your you know two that you get. In THE third

1900
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: round and i don't have a lot of questions, about

1901
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: his rout running. Nuance or, his physicality he'll block he'll

1902
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: do all. The things you want like there's plays where he's,

1903
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 1: playing like tight end, like move tight. Ended inserting, ON

1904
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: backers so like i think that. Would be to ME

1905
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: that's the piece i would kind of add here unless

1906
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: you really want to Make a. PUSH for, malchi fields i.

1907
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 3: MEAN here's the thing I Would say that bud clark.

1908
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 2: Is. Still, sitting TOO wow yeah so i kind of.

1909
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: Would go that.

1910
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 3: Direction and the reason is BECAUSE although your, ARGUMENTS i

1911
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 3: was stribbling i love right like, Still On, The Board,

1912
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 3: jacoby LANE josh cameron who I. Really like from baylor.

1913
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 3: IT'S a wide receiver i know They're Not, the same,

1914
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 3: jeff caldwell but like, there, are guys here well what?

1915
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: About the safety brothers what are? The, safeties, are remaining okay,

1916
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: okay Let's Got you. MISTER budd, clark Over.

1917
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 3: I Like, But clark, genesis, smith oh yeah, NO not

1918
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 3: For Me a Coach. Zikey, wheatley, from Pennstone Okay Yeah

1919
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 3: but clark michael taffy who We, talked ABOUT from, texas

1920
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 3: who i like, if.

1921
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: You mentioned that if you Mentioned that dude from, oklahoma's

1922
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 1: name on there like we're drafting him in The Fifth Round, first.

1923
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: Robert spears, JENNINGS he's. Still here I know so again i. Like,

1924
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: him A lot okay so i.

1925
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: THINK there's a difference i think you've got a Second

1926
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: round player in stribling that has matriculated his way into

1927
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: the third round by the.

1928
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: Grace.

1929
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: OF PFF's algorithm right i don't think he's, there IN

1930
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: real life but i think that would be a really

1931
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: nice Pick There.

1932
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 2: FOR the washington.

1933
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: Committee i wouldn't be upset here if you take a

1934
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 3: chance on an. EDGE player as well i know That.

1935
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 2: The, Names Just. DANNY danny dennis sutton.

1936
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 3: I kind of like that because you're betting on the,

1937
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 3: athletic freak Upside there and so i'm saying that that,

1938
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 3: is intriguing to me especially because the depth of this.

1939
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: Position starts to deteriorate but but we're.

1940
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: Going, To, Go stripling no no I'm fine with Going danny,

1941
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: to the sutton too. Based on your argument but like

1942
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: safety has, GOT a long tail i think receiver's got.

1943
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: A long tail, too so if like if we don't

1944
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: get one, IN the, third.

1945
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 2: Round i like oh what are? We? Going TO do

1946
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: right there's i Think some probably availability, and here with

1947
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: edge you're getting.

1948
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 3: A young athletic freak you're you're not demanding that he.

1949
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: Do something right away, he can stay develop you can

1950
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: coach that. Up a little bit and it's you're just. Betting,

1951
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 3: ON traits here. Sure i don't know is it too

1952
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 3: early to do that the third round? With what We

1953
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 3: have that's why, I'm going that way but also Two To,

1954
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: go with terry.

1955
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 2: Scribbling that's very valuable who do we draft with? OUR

1956
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: second round pick i? Don't, Even Remember, Anymore, Oh Chris.

1957
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: Johnson yeah chris Johnson So We Have, jeremiah love chris

1958
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 3: johnson and We can either go stribbling or we can

1959
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 3: take An, athletic traits with sutton which one do? You

1960
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 3: want to do.

1961
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: It's a great question i'd probably go shriveling here just

1962
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: to kind of make sure that we had weapons for

1963
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: depending on what happens with free agency and obviously what

1964
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: happens at the seventh.

1965
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: Of RE ol pick but I that's that's. Why I would,

1966
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: GO but i like i like The thought process. With

1967
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 2: sutton there, too we did, it we did it, we

1968
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: got Did.

1969
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 3: It and funny sutton went right after our pick there,

1970
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 3: no Just All, right so jeremiah love we took it the.

1971
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 3: Number seven overall pick we traded back into the Second

1972
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 3: Round With, the kansas city chiefs so we got their

1973
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 3: number forty and we. Took their third round we did.

1974
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 3: A little swot pick they moved up a couple of

1975
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 3: spots and took our seventy one, overall on third round

1976
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 3: but they also got our sixth round at one seventy

1977
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 3: eight and our third round. IN twenty twenty seven i

1978
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: think you probably would have to give up a little

1979
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 3: bit more than there's. An actual draft night, but that

1980
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 3: being said what did, We, get with That Well we

1981
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,560
Speaker 3: Got Chris. Johnson, AND joson.

1982
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: Stripling yes i that feels like really like a coup.

1983
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: There a, little bit you, know it shows you it

1984
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: really shows you the value of. A. Second round pick

1985
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: right the.

1986
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 3: Point, of these mock, drafts by the way is, not to,

1987
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 3: be exact right like that's not what we're. Trying to

1988
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: do here some of these trades are a LITTLE wonky.

1989
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 3: With the pff simulator point is just getting names out

1990
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 3: and kind of give you an idea of where they

1991
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 3: might be in the draft and where we think. The

1992
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: draft is, Moving, like you said stribling we think he's moving,

1993
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 3: up like. Perfect world, he's there probably not but it's fun.

1994
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: To talk about it it's absolutely fun to talk about

1995
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: and this. Is a good show a lot of, a

1996
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: lot of players a lot of a lot of good

1997
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: football players talked, about in this show. Which is. Very

1998
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: beefy loved it, but in the, meantime until. Next week

1999
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 2: that's it

2000
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 3: M