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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Oh it's been so long, like what

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Speaker 1: like twenty four hours or something. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. I'm Ben, I'm Ashley, and this is

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Speaker 1: season two, episode two, and we're talking Bachelor in Paradise

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Speaker 1: in this week's Bachelor in Paradise is a little bit different,

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Speaker 1: actually a lot different than any weeks we're used to. Uh,

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Speaker 1: not only do we have a wedding, but we also

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Speaker 1: have a little group think Pink Cat led by Chris Harrison,

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Speaker 1: where it feels very elementary school s um. But the start,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk Bachelor in Paradise wedding. Actually, you

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Speaker 1: were at this wedding. What a cool experience. It was

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Speaker 1: my second Bachelor wedding and it was beautiful. Uh, these

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Speaker 1: are the coolest weddings ever because you were with your

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Speaker 1: friends when they met and fell in love and now

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Speaker 1: you're watching them get married and well you're watching them

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Speaker 1: have a kid too, because Carly was pregnant at the

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Speaker 1: time and we didn't know. But it is the coolest thing,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was definitely the type of thing

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Speaker 1: that this show needed in an episode like this one.

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Speaker 1: You know they're addressing this controversy that made the show look.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if sleazy is the right word, but

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Speaker 1: I think it definitely could have because of all the

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Speaker 1: allegations around Karin Tomorrow in their hook up, and this

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Speaker 1: really proved like, hey, this show is classy and people

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Speaker 1: find love this way, and and all the marriages that

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Speaker 1: have happened through The Bachelor, and there are quite a

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Speaker 1: number they've never led to divorce. How cool is that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's awesome. And and you you

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Speaker 1: said it right, like, there did kind of feel I

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Speaker 1: guess in the first two episodes I was a little

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Speaker 1: on edge watching because there did kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: there's a dark cloud around um this season so far,

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Speaker 1: right something. Bachelor in Paradise is usually this very happy, joyous,

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Speaker 1: Uh and last and and and being able to watch

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Speaker 1: his wedding kind of lighten things up. I guess, um

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Speaker 1: it was exciting for me. I I was obviously not there.

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Speaker 1: I've been to one Bachelor wedding Tanner and Jades and

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Speaker 1: I and I think you said it best. They're one

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Speaker 1: of the most beautiful things I've ever been a part

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Speaker 1: of why do you like them so much? Actually? I

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Speaker 1: think for me, like it's just so cool to be

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Speaker 1: friends with both of them, to watch their love story

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Speaker 1: happen in real life and then to see it end

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Speaker 1: in the ultimate commitment to each other. That I gotta

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Speaker 1: talk about. Some of my favorite parts of the wedding.

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Speaker 1: One Evan looking at Carly. I was at a wedding

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Speaker 1: this weekend and I tweeted out dresses. The chick flick

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Speaker 1: taught me to always look at the groom when the

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Speaker 1: bride starts walking down the aisle and not turn around

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Speaker 1: and look at the bride because you need to catch

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Speaker 1: that glimpse of the guy's face when he first sees her.

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Speaker 1: It is magical, it has it's just love. It is

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Speaker 1: love visually on somebody's face. And Evan really came through

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Speaker 1: with that moment for me and obviously led to quite

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Speaker 1: a many tears, as you guys saw on TV last night.

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Speaker 1: I uh, do you actually you might know this? And

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Speaker 1: know if if them, you know, being pregnant kind of

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Speaker 1: I believe, if my timeline is correct, she probably got

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Speaker 1: give the date. Yeah, okay, they called me the first

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Speaker 1: week of May, so, I mean, and they're definitely planning

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Speaker 1: on a paradise wedding. What a cool thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this this show is is so ridiculous. It's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody could say it, right, I mean, from

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor to Bachelorette, the Bachelor in Paradise, there's so

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Speaker 1: many aspects of this franchise that just make you like

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Speaker 1: confused and uh feel sometimes very awkward, sometimes a little dirty. Um.

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Speaker 1: But these are the moments where everything kind of comes

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Speaker 1: it's all about, right, I mean, we have we're kind

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Speaker 1: of talking earlier, you and I were about some of

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Speaker 1: these reality television shows that then can work in real life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking here married at first Sight. Uh,

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Speaker 1: why are you guys so close? Especially since you've like

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Speaker 1: broken up a zillion times on TV? And it's just

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Speaker 1: like no one will understand what you're going through more

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Speaker 1: than the person that you're with during those moments. And

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Speaker 1: and you're still friends with him afterwards. And we're actually

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Speaker 1: going to talk to one of your former flings later

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Speaker 1: that I know you love and that I love dearly

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Speaker 1: looked real good last night, Chris Harrison, And are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me. I mean that dude, how long has he

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison is killing it. Like he gets better and better.

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Speaker 1: so funny. That's kind of Chris Harrison's life now he has.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine what his closet looks like.

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Speaker 1: He wears a different suit with a different pocket square,

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Speaker 1: and Man. Evan is that guy that I watched during

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Speaker 1: Joejoe's season and I thought, this mofo is literally the

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Speaker 1: I immediately liked him. Um, he's just the sweetest, like

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Speaker 1: He's very smart, very successful. Oh my goodness, gracious. That

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Speaker 1: Carrie Fetman. He is an amazing guy. Uh, And we

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Speaker 1: Like they deserve a huge, huge praise, and it's great

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Speaker 1: really got to know Sean, love him, what a warm dude.

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Speaker 1: And I was like dude, who are why? Why? But

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Speaker 1: Wells on the line right now. Hey Wells? Hi? Oh? Hey, well,

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Speaker 1: what's going on buddy? Oh? Is that the sweet, sultry

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Speaker 1: vocalizations of America's most beautiful Bachelor Ben Higgins? Oh? That's

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Speaker 1: everybody else does. Right. You go in paradise and everybody

427
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: can drink, and everybody can hook up, and everybody can

428
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: can fight and bicker and cry, and those things happen, right,

429
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: It's part of it's part of the experience. But if

430
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: you take that back to your life, it's the things

431
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: that you do that are unique that's that separate you.

432
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: The things that that you're remembered for are the things

433
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: that are different than what everybody else is doing. The

434
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: things that go against the grind, to get to go

435
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 1: against the flow. So for you to reach out and

436
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: give Christina hug with no ulterior motives, just to say, hey,

437
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm here for you, I care about you. I'm gonna

438
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: be here the whole time. If you need support, you know,

439
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: come back, and that I'm not going to be, you know,

440
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: trying to rub sunscreen on your back every day because

441
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: you let me do it once. I think that. I

442
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: think the viewer watched that and just said, man, like

443
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: Wells is loving Christina very well in a non romantic way,

444
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: and that is something that that everybody should try to

445
00:23:53,920 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: do more of. So well, I'm actually a horrible bartender,

446
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: but it was, Yeah, I was gonna wait the drinks.

447
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: But like, so I tended bar when I was like

448
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: in college, and then when I got out of college,

449
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: I waited table was the bartender while I was like

450
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: doing double duty as like a night jock and um,

451
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: but like that was ten years ago. So I took

452
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: a class right before coming out to like learn every time.

453
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: I learned all the crazy drinks like uh my ties

454
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: and peanut coladas and like blended drinks and all this

455
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And then when I got there. Everyone

456
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: is so terrified of a carb and a sugar and

457
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: I made I made one freaking drink and it was

458
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: a tequila soda with a splash of pineapple. Probably that's

459
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: the only thing I made there. I pought four beers

460
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: and three of them were for me. I used to

461
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: drink my ties every day there. That was my go

462
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: to Paradise drink hate wells um. I just talked to

463
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: Vinny and he said that you actually worked a job

464
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: when you were there, Like you worked from like it

465
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: was like an end of five, You had hours, you

466
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: had to clean dishes. Yeah, Like it was really funny

467
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: when when I was talking to So, there's an executive

468
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: producer that like us three know that maybe everyone else

469
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: does this note named Alan Uh and he was kind

470
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: of in charge of this whole idea. And he was like,

471
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not giving you a bar back,

472
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: and you don't have like someone like, you know, cutting

473
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: the lines for you. You have to do all this stuff.

474
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, it's fine. So like the

475
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: ben you've never been to Paradise, But what's annoying is

476
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: my bar, which was the beach bar. You can't have

477
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: glass down there because it breaks in against in the sand,

478
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: and then someone that cut their foot right, so you

479
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: could only have these plastic cups down there. And the

480
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: problem was that I'd make a drink for someone and

481
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: then someone go and they chit chat with someone over

482
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: and some palapa, and then they'd weave their glass and

483
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: then I'd run out of glasses. So I'd like, I mean, like, god,

484
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: these swabs, and so I'd be like running around the

485
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: beach like picking up glasses. I was like, I would

486
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: like and I don't think that Orge would ever do it,

487
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: because he was such a sweetheart. But like I was

488
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: in the bachelor world before, like I'm friends with these guys,

489
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: I would like chastise them. I'd be like, you can't

490
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: have another drink until you return your cup like a

491
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: big boy. I didn't, man, I would toot. Man, that's

492
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: all that's that's so funny here. I had no clue.

493
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: It's it's the backstory, this whole thing that just kind

494
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: of makes everything make more sense now as I watch it. Um, Hey, well,

495
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: we gotta get going here, but I want to play

496
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: one last game with you. I need. I'm gonna throw

497
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: a couple of names out there, and I just need

498
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: one word answers for for how you define them? Is

499
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Speaker 1: is that? Is that? Okay, okay, everyone's favorite speed round.

500
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Speaker 1: Come on, it's gonna be right, it's gonna be the

501
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: word that you think of immediately pausing, Okay, okay, gonna

502
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Speaker 1: start with Taylor, Um, thoughtful, dean, beautiful, Raven, hilarious, Robbie, Uh,

503
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: I know you want to say it, Falcon wing hair

504
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: oh Man, Well if you are always a pleasure dude,

505
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: I uh, you're a great man, and thank you for

506
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: being kind to in our speed round. Uh. We have

507
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: a great segment coming up, UM called who are you?

508
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Because well you probably know no clue who they are. Um,

509
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: so well, thanks for joining us well as well. You

510
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: are a very kind soul and one of the my

511
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: very favorite friends from this and you've treated me very well.

512
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: She's backpedaling by wells I love you guys, Ashley. Yeah. Um,

513
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: we only have this podcast going and we're only able

514
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: to talk to people like well, by the way, what

515
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: a great call man, that guy. He knows how to talk.

516
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: He's a good talker, but he's a great guy. Because

517
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Speaker 1: of our sponsors and one of our sponsors that we've

518
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Speaker 1: consistently talked about because they've been a huge supporter of

519
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Speaker 1: our show from the very big inning from season one

520
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Speaker 1: now to season two is fab bit fun. Um. Actually,

521
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: you know more about fab fit Fun than I do.

522
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Speaker 1: Even though I just received a box and uh, there's

523
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Speaker 1: some stuff in there. I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna

524
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Speaker 1: start using. There's a pink water bottle. Um, I'm all

525
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: about it. It seems nice, But actually, can you tell

526
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: us about fab fit Fun. Yes, you're referring to this

527
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Speaker 1: season's editors boxes, the fall box that comes out in September.

528
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Speaker 1: You can go get it at fabfit fund dot com

529
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Speaker 1: and you can get ten dollars off of our code

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Speaker 1: But the box itself is valued at at least two

534
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Some of the stuff in the new Editor's

535
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Speaker 1: box includes a real her eyeshadow palette which is worth

536
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Speaker 1: twenty eight dollars. And then there is Dr Brand's Poor

537
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Speaker 1: derm Abrasion, one of my very favorites, and a fab

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Speaker 1: fit Fund Discovery for me and that retail els at

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Speaker 1: to a total of three and fifty nine dollars. By

541
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Speaker 1: you guys, Like, what the heck? You're going to get

542
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545
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: this is uh. This is a segment that you and

546
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: I uh and our producer Amy kind of came up with, um,

547
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: just based on watching the season Bachelor in Paradise, And

548
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: this isn't meant to be mean. It isn't meant to

549
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: be rude. It's kind of what Wells was saying, right,

550
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: Some of the most memorable moments within the Bachelor franchise

551
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: are from people that aren't necessarily getting a lot of

552
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: screen time, but they just seem to stand out and

553
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: be unique. Well, unfortunately that people were going to talk

554
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: about here haven't been that unique. So we're gonna play

555
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: a game called wait, who are you? Um, Actually, I'm

556
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: wondering there's a few people that you were talking about.

557
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: Who are some people in this season of Bachelor? And

558
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Paradise that you really have no clue who they are. Well,

559
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: definitely Lacey and I have a special kinship to Lacy

560
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: because I feel like she's the me of this season.

561
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm going around talking to everyone. Everybody kind

562
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: of wants to talk to me, but nobody wants to

563
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: get in to know me. Romantic like I mean, so exactly.

564
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: So you have people like Lazy, I have the Santa

565
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: Claus Feller who who saying you know who? Who tried?

566
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: I guess he tried with Jasmine. Um So, for today's podcast,

567
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to two people um that that

568
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: people just don't seem to know. And it's unfortunate because

569
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have huge storylines in Paradise this

570
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: year and hopefully get to know him better. To start

571
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: today's conversation, we have the lovely Derek Peth on the line. Derek,

572
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: who in the heck are you? That was the best

573
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: thing you've ever said? Tell us about yourself. The first

574
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna do is correct to you. Okay, it's oh,

575
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: it's I always tell people it's easy. I always tell

576
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: people have faith and paid. I love it, man. Okay,

577
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: So can you give us just a real quick rundown on.

578
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: I want to hear about how people would know you

579
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: from the Bachelor franchise. Where are you from? And and

580
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: one of your favorite little hobbies to do? So just

581
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: so we can get to know you a little better.

582
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Cool man. Um yeah, so I am from chat season

583
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor at uh, which is also a judge season. Um,

584
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: and uh, you know I'm from Iowa. I'm sorry, I'm

585
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: in the airport here, so there's like people talking, Um,

586
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm from Iowa and from the Midwest as yourself, and um,

587
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, I just came to the Bachelor franchise really

588
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: by accident. My little sister put my information in and

589
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I got a call and I said, uh, you are

590
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: you're a radio station. This is not real, Like I

591
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: don't know who you are and I don't know why

592
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: you're saying with the Bachelor. So um, yeah, this is

593
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: very very crazy to be to be taught in this world.

594
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: For the last couple of years, a lot of people

595
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: remember me as the guy who's the only guy who cried,

596
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: I believe on Joe Joe's season outside of back checked

597
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: for a second, that's just wait. Yeah, there's the whole season,

598
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: there's only one guy that cried. I think, like Benny,

599
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: you saw like one little tier and like, uh, I

600
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: think wells of sweating and people, that's that little area

601
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: tire yeo, yep, yep. So so unfortunately, you know that's

602
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: uh that that became pretty tied to me. But then

603
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: I also, I think, uh have been focused on as

604
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: as the Jim Halpert diet, like the diet version of

605
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Jim Halpert. So um yeah. And then at the office

606
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: of my favorite TV show, So you know, that's I

607
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: think what I get the most. And I might have

608
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: thrown a couple of Easter eggs into the season so

609
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: far with some some office quotes. I love that. I

610
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: love that. Yeah. So Derek, we've already seen you kind

611
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: of build a relationship in Paradise, right, I mean we're

612
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: for a couple episodes in uh, you've been one of

613
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: the coolest storylines. I mean, I guess I was kind

614
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: of comparing it last night to the Evan Carley storyline, right,

615
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we we knew Evan, we but we knew

616
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: him about as well as we probably know you. Um

617
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: and and and look who look where Evan stands today.

618
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: So for you, Um, how was Paradise different than your

619
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: experience on the Bachelorette UM. I tell you that on

620
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette Um, you know, there was a very different

621
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: mix of people. Our season was uh full of a

622
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: lot of meat hut lovable, some were not so much.

623
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Speaker 1: And so I'd say that, like, it was very refreshing

624
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: to have like of a very mix of men and women.

625
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: And like the nicest thing that comes out to that

626
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: is that there's a little bit less like prevlocity and

627
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: and trying to like beat each other up to like

628
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: grabbed the girl by her hair and take her off

629
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: to your cave. Yeah, because there's uh, you know, a

630
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: lot of other a lot of other options. So they

631
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: just feel like it was a lot of a lot

632
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: more fun and a lot less of a competition than

633
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: I'd say the Bachelor at was. That's interesting. So I

634
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: mean we're seeing I guess we're seeing too, Like the

635
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: legitimacy of your relationship with Taylor so far seems far

636
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: and beyond anybody else's in Paradise. Why is that? Like

637
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: what was it about the two of you that really

638
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: propelled things for uh huh Um, I'd say the it's

639
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: a weird thing, right, But I say the most powerful

640
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: thing about the two of us was we came on

641
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: both absolutely saying we do not want to meet that person.

642
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: So like Taylor wanted had nothing to do with me,

643
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: and I want to have nothing to do it, sir.

644
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: So it was like this big surprise, and uh, you know,

645
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I think you see that there's definitely like an attraction

646
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: there immediately. Um, once we did finally talk and get

647
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: to know each other a little bit, so um. And

648
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: then something that I think that we didn't really see

649
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: a lot of, even though we we we talked about

650
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: um briefly on the episode last night, was was that

651
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, there was I don't know what ten twelve

652
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: days worth of of us basically on the phone on

653
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: FaceTime for like five six hours when everyone else you know,

654
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: went home. So we were already planning for Taylor to

655
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: actually coming and uh and visit me. Uh that's a

656
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: little spoil I probably seem to set that, but okay, Um, yeah,

657
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: we thought that we thought the show was was done,

658
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, like we thought it was absolutely no no

659
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: way that it was coming back. So um, during that

660
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: during the shutdown, Taylor had I got our plane ticket

661
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: to come and actually see me in aisle over like,

662
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: well maybe we'll try this thing, right. So, I mean

663
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: that's about the stage that we were at when you saw,

664
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: um the episode resumed. It's like what happened in that

665
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: little bit see time really interesting, I mean extremely interesting.

666
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm just I mean, I've talked to actually

667
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: many times about this, and Paradise just seems to be

668
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: a place where people build stronger relationship ships. Um. Maybe not,

669
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean not all the time, but it just seems

670
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: like the masses like there's more people that can build

671
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: charming relationships at Paradise, obviously because there's men and women there. Um,

672
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: But it's it's a really cool thing to watch, and

673
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm starting to believe in it more and more and

674
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: more as the seasons go. And you're one of those reasons.

675
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to be your reason then for believing. Um No,

676
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: it's been great to be it's been great to be

677
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: put you know, like you do. I just just mentioned

678
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Evan and people said like ten or you know, and

679
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: like that. That's a very stressful position too, because you know,

680
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: like those relationships are amazing and and this is just

681
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: still a new relationship. Um. As you're seeing so far,

682
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: and um, you know, who knows where it's gonna go.

683
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: So that's that's the scary part of Paradise, right, Um.

684
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: And it's just like it can be a lot of pressure.

685
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: So I think that that also though, Like you know,

686
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: pressure can can make you build and decide things or

687
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: break things apart sooner, you know, and you kind of

688
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: know where you're going. So can I just say that

689
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: you have really brought out a a full side of Taylor.

690
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: I know that she wasn't a character that everybody loved

691
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: from nixt season, but you've made her so happy and

692
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: glowy and just like lighthearted and I really like this

693
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: side of her. And she looks freaking gorgeous with her

694
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: hair natural and curled like that. For the record, that

695
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: was she did it one day and she was like, oh,

696
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: I really need to straighten my hair. I said, please,

697
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: don't ever straighten your hair. Yeah. That's awesome. Man. Well,

698
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: we are excited Derek to uh well, first off, hey,

699
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, and we're excited to watch your

700
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: your experience unfold here through Paradise. We wish you the best, um,

701
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: and man, so far, we we were very excited about

702
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: what you and Taylor have to offer. So Derek, thanks

703
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: for joining us, buddy. Thanks guys, I'd hope to see

704
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: you guys sometime throughout the journey. We certainly will see

705
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: you soon. All right, take your guys, And now we

706
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: know who is he. He is Derek, and he seems

707
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: like a lovely guy. I agree. I mean I really

708
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to him. He seems like he has his

709
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: head on right. He's I mean, I couldn't. I was

710
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: trying to kind of read through the lines there a

711
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Actually, I was thinking, Okay, is he still

712
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: with her or is he not? Like, is he going

713
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: to talk very highly or is he not? But I

714
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: have a feeling, I don't know how you feel. How

715
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: do you feel that they're still together? Definitely? I mean

716
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: he he could even tell him his voice. He's he's

717
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: pretty chipper. I would agree, what a good word. You

718
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: just keep pulling out these old fashioned words feller and schipper,

719
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: and I like it. Next are going to say that

720
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: seems swell? Let's bring um you're coming up next. We

721
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: have a a lot of people don't know, but I

722
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: seem to know pretty well. He's a friend of mine

723
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: and so, Ashley, I'm gonna let you just kind of

724
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: interview this man because ladies love him. Uh, they always have.

725
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, he's a part of Wells and I

726
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: group thread um and the only thing I want to

727
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: share and kind of give a hint to he loves

728
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: his dog. Which so does that? Actually? So actually take

729
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: it away. So it is ben Z. You may remember

730
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: him as the big, cuddly teddy bear from Caitlyn season,

731
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: the other Ben back when Ben here used to be

732
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Ben h and this was ben Z. That's good. I

733
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: remember that time. So, Ben, who in the heck are you? So?

734
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the way that's been going is I'm pretty

735
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: much the guy that's not been h That's pretty much.

736
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, that could be anything farther from the Ben.

737
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: Have you cried since Caitlyn season? I have not. No,

738
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: I have not. I think it's gonna be uh. I

739
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be one of those things where it

740
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: will be uh, a moment in my life that is

741
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: extremely happy that'll bring those tears, not something that's sad. Sweet. Yeah,

742
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: we'll see when that happens. Ben, What was the last

743
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: time you cried? Actually? I cry all the time. Do

744
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: you really Oh my gosh, I am. Yeah, I'm an

745
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: emotional wreck half the time I watch uh you know,

746
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: actually you know I watched uh um Free Willie a

747
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: couple of nights ago, and you know the moment where

748
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: the Willie jumps over and he touches the belly. Um,

749
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: it gets me, It got me. I was done. I mean,

750
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: it's just such a beautiful moment that represents freedom. So, yeah,

751
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: I'm a crier. No, nobody's surprised by that. I love

752
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: I love you. So it's a great movie. The Michael

753
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Jackson song from that movie is one of the most

754
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: underrated Michael Jackson songs of all time. Yeah, thank you.

755
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: I mean I was alone in my house. I'm sorry.

756
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to talk about myself for a second

757
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: moment for me. Um, and you all can get to

758
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: know me better from this. I was alone in my house,

759
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: which doesn't get to happen very often. I'm travel all

760
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: the time. This is last week Free Willie comes on

761
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: watch the movie. I turned on my son nos to

762
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson song and it's me alone in my house,

763
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: just arms wide open. Yeah, I really wish I could

764
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: have seen that and been there. That's amazing. Then that

765
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: song is truly liberating. I listened to it every time

766
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm at the beach and I look at the waves

767
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: and I feel free. That's right. But that's enough about me.

768
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: We we gotta to know about Ben here. Ben, You're

769
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: you're really good at pushing the attention off on other people,

770
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: as we've just seen there. Um, Ben, can you give

771
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: us a little bit of a snapshot, snapshot of who

772
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: the heck are you? Like literally, like tell us about yourself.

773
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: How would fans know you, what would they remember you for? Um?

774
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: And then like kind of leading up the paradise, what

775
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: were you hoping for? Um? So I think the fans

776
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: probably know from Caitlyn season of The Bachelor. As as

777
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: us asked, you just pointed out that I haven't cried

778
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: in a long time. So I think that was pretty

779
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: big focused on the show, as well as losing my

780
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: mom when I was fourteen. So those, uh, those life

781
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: moments had a pretty pretty big impact on all my

782
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: life and the way that I go about my life,

783
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: and it made me grow up very quickly. So um,

784
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: I think that's a big reason why in a lot

785
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: of aspects life, Um, I kind of have been more

786
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: of an adult than I think my age UM put

787
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: out there, and so I think that's how twenty right

788
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: now it was twenties to come the show. Between me

789
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: and you, Ben, between me and you and Jared, we

790
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: were the three youngest ones in the show, but honestly

791
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: we're probably three of the most mature guys on the show. Also,

792
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: is that the case? I think so. But then there's

793
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: a lot of great guys from your season. I still

794
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: say to this day, as anyone who listens to the

795
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: Ben Nashally I almost Fans podcast does know that I

796
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: think that Caitlin season was the most golden. I completely

797
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: agree from an extremely biased opinion, I could cletely agree

798
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: that's right. I think so too. I mean, not only

799
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: was she a great bachelor, but we have some guys

800
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: uh from that season that I that I plan to

801
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: be friends with for a very very long time, and

802
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: including yourself. Then yeah, no, I completely agree, man, I

803
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: definitely agree. So Ben, let's talk about new pup. My

804
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: new pup. Yeah, um, it seems like that's apparently all

805
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: that I talked about, apparently according to according to TV UM,

806
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: But no, I got him. Um, I got him in

807
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: February and I got him as a puppy and I

808
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: have had him pretty much had him ever since. Obviously

809
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: other than going on the show, we've been following your

810
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: life with him on Instagram ever since. Um, is it

811
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: frustrating to see that they're not showing you speak about

812
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: anything other than him? Zeus, UM a little bit. I'm

813
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I think that there's a lot more

814
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: that happened in Paradise, as I'm sure you know. Um,

815
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: not everything gets showed, but um, you know, the frustrating

816
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: party is when you know you are there and you're

817
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: talking about your dog and then Ravens talking about her dog,

818
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: actual conversation and they cut they cut her whole half

819
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: out of it, and then I was like a crazy person.

820
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: You know. I make it that I was done. I

821
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: make a p to not talk about editing as much

822
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: as possible, but there are moments like that I mentioned

823
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: on yesterday's podcast where you just have to be like

824
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: that was editing and it was funny. It was like

825
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: the one time I was talking to a parrot. You know,

826
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: It's like, did you guys really think that I was

827
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: just talking to a parrot, Because then this makes you

828
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: the crazy person exactly, but a lot of a lot

829
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: of viewers don't necessarily know that, and so it's good

830
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: to uh, it's good to see the other side. Sometimes

831
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: it makes good TV. Though it does make good TV.

832
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: And for a while apparently Zeus was trending, so he's

833
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: doing better than I. That is cool. Let's talk about

834
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: your relationship with um with Raven right now, and how

835
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: are you going to salvage yourself and get a rose

836
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: this coming rose ceremony. That's a great question. I mean,

837
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: at this point, what you guys seen is you've seen

838
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: You've seen Raven get taken on a date by Robbie

839
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: and they seem to have fun on the jet skis

840
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But um, you know, in Paradise, I kind

841
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: of looked at it as there's no rule and you

842
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: can pretty much do whatever you want. So um I

843
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: kind of made my own one on one day. What

844
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: you what you don't see is that Raven actually wasn't

845
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: feeling good and she had a cough and a sore

846
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: throat and all this stuff, and so UM I had

847
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: actually set up a little a little thing on on

848
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: one of the cabanas with with tea and honey and

849
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: cough drops. It's kind of like a joke, but also like, uh, um,

850
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: a way to show her that like, hey, you know,

851
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I know you're not feeling good, but here's some stuff

852
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: to hopefully make you feel better. Oh, you are getting

853
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: that rose. I'm trying. I'm trying hard to get that rose. Uh.

854
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: Then yes, I want to give you a chance to respond. Um.

855
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: And this is uh please understands in no way it

856
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: dig towards you at all. But we did talk yesterday

857
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: on the podcast about how after a few of the

858
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: seasons um you have you had reached out to a

859
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: couple of the women that have been UM, let go

860
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: and try to you know, kind of talk to started

861
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: talking to him. What was your thought process to that?

862
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: Can you just explain to the audience so it's not

863
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: left out there in lombo exactly what you're doing and

864
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: and and and just give us your give us your thoughts. No, absolutely,

865
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: I think, in in all honesty, since I got off

866
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: the show, I have romantically reached out to a girl

867
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: from the show only two times. The other times when

868
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: I have had like conversations with a girl or something

869
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: like that, UM, A lot of times you niceness comes

870
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: across as flirting as I'm sure you've probably ran into

871
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: in the past. And um, and in some of these situations, Uh,

872
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: you know when when you go from zero to a

873
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: hundred overnight and you have no idea how to handle fame,

874
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: you have no idea how to handle being in the spotlight. Um.

875
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: And I know from my standpoint, I didn't have somebody

876
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: that was like there to help you out or kind

877
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: of like show you what to do and what not

878
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: to do. And I wish that I had. And so um,

879
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: there there were girls that had either reached out to

880
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: me or I reached out to them and saying you know, hey,

881
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: you know you're part of the family now, the Vastport family,

882
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: and if you ever need any advice or something like that,

883
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: let me know. I'm happy. I'm happy I'm here to help. Basically,

884
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: hey Ben, yeh Um, can we ask who you've reached

885
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: out to? Who two girls are? Uh? Those two girls are?

886
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: One of them? One of them was Shoshana. She was

887
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: in she was on Ben season. Actually I remember her.

888
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: I accidentally called her a Russian hooker during my season

889
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: of Paradise accidentally. He actually check yourself before you speak. Oh,

890
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: the influence that goes down the peer pressure in that

891
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: I TM room. Oh my gosh, my apologies, Shoshanna, you

892
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: were We got along very well the day that you

893
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: were there. I'm sorry for what I said behind closed doors.

894
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: And I actually think that I actually think that was

895
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: the only person actually, now that I think about it. UM,

896
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: I know that there was some other girls that had

897
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: originally thought that I was talking to them, but that

898
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: is definitely not the case. UM. I had I think

899
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: I had talked to Amanda. Uh post show, I guess

900
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: you could say, but we had it. It was never

901
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: more than a few a few texts or anything like that.

902
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm glad we cleared your rep Yeah,

903
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean thought after man, Um, you are you. I'm

904
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: not surprised that you being nice and kind in reaching

905
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: out to women has has led people to believe that

906
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: you are flirting or just incredibly interested in everybody and anybody. UM.

907
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: So I wanted to give you the chance to speak

908
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: on that, um Ben before we say good body here. UM,

909
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: I want to know from from your experience, because Ashley

910
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: is very high on Paradise, and she should be. She's

911
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: had great experiences and that great people. Uh. And we

912
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: just talked to Derek Payte, who had a very similar

913
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: feeling that actually did what was your biggest issue, Like,

914
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: what was the worst part about Paradise to you? The

915
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: worst part about Paradise? I think that, um, in it

916
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: depends on the people that are there, and it also

917
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: depends on the timing. I think that on preview seasons

918
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: of Paradise there were I mean, you go start to

919
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: finish twenty eight days and you have a bunch of

920
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: people down there. Some are actually there to find love

921
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: and others are are there to just have a good time. UM.

922
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: I think on this season there was a lot more

923
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: people down there that were just looking to have a

924
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: good time. Uh. There were some rumors of people who

925
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: already had relationships from the outside and stuff like that. Um.

926
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: And then also with the with the whole Tomorio and

927
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: Karin things, everything was kind of cut short, and so

928
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: it kind of turned into less of like a a

929
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: longer love story vacation being down there, and more of

930
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: like just a lot of people that genuinely liked each

931
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: other hanging out. UM. I think that Paradise is definitely

932
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: a place where you can go down and genuinely meet

933
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: somebody and spend a lot of time with that person.

934
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: But what I found on our season was that because

935
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: of of the way that everything happened, everybody kind of

936
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: everybody really close and it turned into a large group

937
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: hang out almost if you will, like a couple of

938
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: couples here and there. Actually, do you have the same

939
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: experience at Paradise um like more friendship group hang out

940
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: vibes versus coupled up vibes? Definitely, Um, I definitely feel

941
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: the opposite. I feel like during my season's everybody was

942
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: very coupled up, and I felt like the one that

943
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: was left out because I was always struggling to be

944
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: with someone. What do you think is changing? I think

945
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: that it goes back to like the last seasons of

946
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: being like the Golden era being your season of girls

947
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: and and like and older, and then than You're than

948
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Caitlin season and older, being like you were there more

949
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: for the right reasons, more for like the love and

950
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: the romance, and less for the social media fame, less

951
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: for just being like famous for being friends together. And

952
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: now everybody kind of gets a lot. Everybody that kind

953
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: of bonds over the fact that they're like a famous

954
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: group of friends. That's so any I mean, I honestly

955
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: I never thought about it that way. Um No, I

956
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: definitely agree with that. With that point that actually just

957
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: made Um I've talked to Amanda and Well both down

958
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: when I was a Paradise and I was asking, was like,

959
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: is this is this how Paradise was last year? And

960
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: they both said that was not the case. It was

961
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: the opposite, and so, um, yeah, I definitely second, But

962
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: I would ask Lois stands Yeah, Well, I think for

963
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: all of our cases, and especially for the viewers, we

964
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: hope that the show can get back to the people

965
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: that are pursuing relationship and pursuing love over fame. Because

966
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: famous fleeting it always will be, it always is, especially

967
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: in in reality world. Um. And so I hope that

968
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: the people that are involved from here on out understand

969
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: that no matter how memorable they are, no matter how

970
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: unique they are, no matter what they do, if they

971
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: make a fool themselves or their stand up people, that

972
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: they will be forgotten and that they aren't the biggest

973
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: thing out there. So I hope the cast can kind

974
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: of take a switch back and we can get back

975
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: to people pursuing love, which Ben, we hope that you

976
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: do on this season of Bachelor in Paradise, we will

977
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: watch anxiously. I will as a friend to see if

978
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: you're with anybody, because honestly, I don't know because you

979
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: don't tell us anything on our thread. So, Ben, thanks

980
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: for joining the Almost Famous podcast. Thank you, Ben, so

981
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: glad to know you now. Thanks for having me gright.

982
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: So what's your thoughts on Ben? Women love him? Huh

983
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: oh Yeah, he's like such a like a big, nice,

984
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: warm teddy bear. I mean, like I'm not just saying

985
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: like in a teddy bear way, like I feel like

986
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: coming off the season the Bachelor, he was actually maybe

987
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: desired more to be the Bachelor than than anybody else. Um.

988
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: I just I think women just really have this infatuation

989
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: with with Ben's orn. I think he's very masculine in

990
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: appearance and in personality, you know, I think because he's

991
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: a little bit more mysterious because he doesn't show too

992
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: much emotion. There's just something manly about that, and it's

993
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: a mystery that they kind of want to crack. I'll

994
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: be very interested in watching Ben out from here on

995
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: out in Paradise. He was one of my favorite cast

996
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: members going and I was really excited to see exactly

997
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: who he is and how he deals with the pressures

998
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: and the people involved, because we didn't get to see

999
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: a lot of him on Caitlin season speaking because now

1000
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: he's on weight. Who are you h So nobody really, Um,

1001
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: we're running into our final segment here and I know

1002
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: this is one of your favorite segments and so take

1003
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: it away. Okay. So one quick moment for an email

1004
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: from Michelle. She says, HI, question for you, is it

1005
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: weird for the Bachelor franchise that in Paradise it's pretty

1006
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: much everyone's ex is getting together. Is it weird for Rachel,

1007
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: Ben and Jojo to see their past contestants there are

1008
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: other people hooking up with each other? And then is

1009
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: it weird for previous Bachelor in Paradise cast members to

1010
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: see the people that they've had connections with on the

1011
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: show hooking up with others? And the answer to your

1012
00:53:53,719 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: question is yes, Like I don't like it? Did did

1013
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: I have some thoughts about Wells being there this season

1014
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: and being like, oh, this sucks. I don't want him

1015
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: to go. I don't want to see him making out

1016
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: with anyone else, Like I just like it's natural. It's

1017
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: just a natural thing. You're gonna have to experience. It's

1018
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: actually it's a jealousy is a natural thing to experience,

1019
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: but having to watch your x is make out with

1020
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: somebody else on TV is very unnatural. Yeah, I would

1021
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: say the same. I mean, but I actually want to

1022
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: ask you. I mean, you're a little bit more emotionally

1023
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: attached than most like you. Do you do you give

1024
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: your full hearts to these people that you meet, Um,

1025
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: they're not only this the show, but also outside of

1026
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: the show. Do you think your thoughts and your feelings

1027
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: are similar to how everybody else's is on the franchise?

1028
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: I guess it just depends who you're talking to. I mean, yeah,

1029
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: I do think that I have my my emotions are

1030
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: stronger than most. But Jojo, I mean, I can't really

1031
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: put it. I don't know. I can't really flip this

1032
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: on you, you know what I mean? Because you're very

1033
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: happy with Lauren when you went on to watch Joe Joe,

1034
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: you with other guys. Yeah. No, I was saying the

1035
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: same thing as I was reading this question, was I

1036
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: can't really relate with this like I mean, I guess

1037
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: I can in a sense of some of the women

1038
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: from the season the Bachelor that I was a part

1039
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: of are now on paradise. They're still on paradise. Um.

1040
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: But it never has really been hard for me because

1041
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: once I left the show, I was happy, and then

1042
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: all I really wanted was for the women that I

1043
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: think are great. I mean, I think Amanda is wonderful.

1044
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: She's a great mom, she's a great person. I had

1045
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: to blast with her, um, and I've gotten to watch

1046
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: her now. Um. You know, she's good friends with Laurence,

1047
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: she's best friends with Lawrence. So I don't get to

1048
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: talk to Amanda, and I don't necessarily know where we stand.

1049
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: But I'm happy to see her happy. And that's really it,

1050
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: you know. Um, I can't really relate with the fact

1051
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: that I get jealous because there's been no residual feelings

1052
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: post Bachelor for me, right, and I always have residual feelings.

1053
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: Let's be real. Um. Okay, So I guess that's it.

1054
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna do more reader emails next week. Make sure

1055
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: to email Benn and Ashley. I heart media dot com

1056
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: if you want your questions answered on air. Love you

1057
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: so so much, and I love you Ben, I love

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Speaker 1: you Ashley. Actually, I uh, I mean we we said

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Speaker 1: it last time, we'll say it again. Like it is

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Speaker 1: incredible that we have listeners and sponsors that allow us

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Speaker 1: to work together to just talk. And it is one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of the week, if not my

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Speaker 1: favorite is getting to talk to you about all the ridiculous, ridiculousness,

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Speaker 1: all the love, all the memories. UM, ask you the best. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I think today let's try something different. How about you

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Speaker 1: close this out? Okay you guys, UM, if you want

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Speaker 1: to have a free moment, you should go listen to

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's Free Willy Song and make yourself feel good.

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Speaker 1: And until then, I have been Ashley and I have

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Speaker 1: been been, and this has been the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.