WEBVTT - Moog Synthesizers

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<v Speaker 1>Ephemeral is production of I heart three D audio for

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<v Speaker 1>full exposure. Listen with that phones. Human beings have been

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<v Speaker 1>building musical instruments for tens of thousands of years, chasing

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<v Speaker 1>different timbres, textures, and ranges possible in the acoustic world,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in the twentieth century a whole new pallide

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<v Speaker 1>of sounds emerged. This is a MOG synthesizer. MoG's were

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<v Speaker 1>the most popular and innovative synthesizers of the nineteen sixties

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<v Speaker 1>and seventies, and they were the first synths to be

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<v Speaker 1>widely accessible by musicians across the world. Nowadays, MOG Music

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<v Speaker 1>is a very different company, but they still create new

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<v Speaker 1>keyboards and sounds. If Emeral producer Trevor Young took a

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<v Speaker 1>trip to MOUG headquarters to learn more about these machines

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<v Speaker 1>and the history behind their creation. Let's say I'm walking

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<v Speaker 1>through the mosium in Asheville, North Carolina. I'm surrounded by keyboards, synthesizers,

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<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of other gadgets that I'm not smart

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<v Speaker 1>enough to recognize, but they're letting me play on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the synthesizers here, and I'm getting a personal tour

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<v Speaker 1>from a very special guest. Hi, I'm Michelle moe Kusa.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the executive director of the Bob Mog Foundation and

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<v Speaker 1>the Mosium. I'm also Bob MoG's third daughter. We walk

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<v Speaker 1>around a corner to find a huge collage taking up

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<v Speaker 1>an entire wall all about Mog Synthesizers founder Bob Mog.

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<v Speaker 1>What we have here is kind of some arises his legacy, innovation, creativity,

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<v Speaker 1>and inspiration. There's a little passage here that says, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mosium, where Bob mogs life, work and legacy

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<v Speaker 1>come alive to inspire curiosity and creativity and to give

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<v Speaker 1>us insight into one of the electronic music's most important pioneers.

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<v Speaker 1>So kind of the crowning the back of the Moxium,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an immersive half doome that teaches people how

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<v Speaker 1>electricity turns into sound when it's traveling through a circuit board.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is essentially the very heart of Bob's work

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<v Speaker 1>that we wanted to bring forward. So why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>listen to at least the first minute of it. Sound

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<v Speaker 1>is the movement of air perceived by our ears. An

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<v Speaker 1>electric speaker creates sound by vibrating air molecules using a

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<v Speaker 1>moving membrane by changing the rate of current flow through

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<v Speaker 1>the magnetic field. A speaker membrane can be vibrated at

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<v Speaker 1>different frequencies to create any kind of sound. It might

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<v Speaker 1>seem like a lot of science on terminology to take in,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to walk you through how synthesizers work.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the best place to start, because with the history

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<v Speaker 1>of how synthesizers came into being, the mog machine here

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<v Speaker 1>has made a startling contribution to the new bach rage.

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<v Speaker 1>It can do anything but stand up and take a bow.

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<v Speaker 1>It can produce almost any kind of variation on pure sound,

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<v Speaker 1>including some sounds that have never been heard before on

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<v Speaker 1>this Earth at least, and these sounds can then be

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed onto tape in any combination, from interplanetary noises to

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<v Speaker 1>a bach fugue. Synthesis technology first appeared in post World

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<v Speaker 1>War two North America. By the late nineteen forties, engineers

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<v Speaker 1>were starting to play around with manipulating electrical currents and

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds they make. In Canadian engineer he Like developed

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<v Speaker 1>the sack But, a sort of early rudimentary synthesizer, and

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<v Speaker 1>in n a team at R. C. A. Laps created

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark to synthesizer, a massive unit that was essentially

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<v Speaker 1>glued to a laboratory in Princeton, New Jersey. But the

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<v Speaker 1>invention of synthesizers as we know them today is almost

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<v Speaker 1>entirely credited to one man, Bob Moog. I asked Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us about Bob and how we ended up

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<v Speaker 1>creating one of the world's most popular instruments. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>was an only child of George and Shirley Moak. My grandpa, George,

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<v Speaker 1>was an electrical engineer for conn Edison. He was also

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<v Speaker 1>an amateur woodworker. And you'll understand why I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>that in a minute. They lived in Flushing, Queens, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and my grandfather had a very well outfitted basement workshop.

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<v Speaker 1>And MI grandfather was kind of quiet and more reserved

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<v Speaker 1>and introverted. And I would say that my father was

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<v Speaker 1>also more quiet and introverted, and highly intelligent and interested

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<v Speaker 1>in science from a very early age, in all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of science. At the age of ten years old, he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a letter to his aunt and his grandmother proclaiming

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<v Speaker 1>his hobbies and in his hobbies included chemistry, electro chemistry, biology, physics.

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<v Speaker 1>He was obviously very influenced by his father. At the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, at the age of six years old, he

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<v Speaker 1>began taking piano lessons. My grandmother had a great desire

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<v Speaker 1>for him to be a concert pianist, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>made sure that he practiced every day. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, he used to tell us stories that she

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<v Speaker 1>would wrap him on the knuckles with a wooden spoon

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<v Speaker 1>when he messed up, so there was no messing up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he did enjoy playing the piano, but

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily under those circumstances. He did become quite profession

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<v Speaker 1>at it and went on to study at the Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>School the Music and he was offered to pursue a

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<v Speaker 1>professional accompanist track which he declined pretty early. At ten

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<v Speaker 1>years old, he started making small electronic hobbyist projects with

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<v Speaker 1>his father. I think part of it was they would

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<v Speaker 1>both escape down into the basement just to get a break,

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<v Speaker 1>as introverts like to do. That is where my father's

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<v Speaker 1>work in electronics started, and they would make three note organs,

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<v Speaker 1>and my dad actually made Geiger counters. Eventually, by the

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<v Speaker 1>time he was around fourteen fifteen, he found an article

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<v Speaker 1>in I think it was called Radio News about how

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<v Speaker 1>to build your own thereman, and that is when he

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with the thereman, which is an early

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<v Speaker 1>electronic musical device that was invented by the Russian physicist

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Thereman. If you've never heard or seen a theremin,

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<v Speaker 1>they're incredibly unique instruments. There perhaps the only instrument you

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<v Speaker 1>play without touching them. Instead, you move your hands around

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<v Speaker 1>an antenna and the proximity and movement of the hand

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<v Speaker 1>generates an eerie sound from the theramin. Here's a demonstration

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<v Speaker 1>from Leon Thereman himself. And my dad really was captivated

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<v Speaker 1>by not only this kind of magical interface where you

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<v Speaker 1>produce sound with an instrument that you don't touch, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was captivated by the elegance and simplicity of Leon

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<v Speaker 1>Thereman's circuitry design. And at that time, theremans were no

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<v Speaker 1>longer in production, so he worked at prof in his

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<v Speaker 1>own design. This is when he was about fifteen. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time he was nineteen, he was proficient enough that

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote an article for radio and television news called

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<v Speaker 1>the Theremin, and it was an instructional on how to

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<v Speaker 1>build your own theremin. But what happened is that people

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<v Speaker 1>had a hard time finding the parts. They were somewhat esoteric.

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<v Speaker 1>These were at that time vacuum tube based Theremans with

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<v Speaker 1>big copper coils that were, you know, maybe even a

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<v Speaker 1>foot tall and required hundred and seventy five rounds of copper.

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember my father telling me that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things he excelled at, that he would wind the

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<v Speaker 1>copper coils, he would design the circuitry. Grandpa helped him

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<v Speaker 1>some with that. Grandpa built the wooden cabinets for his Theoremans,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both did some of the kind of silk

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<v Speaker 1>screening that went on the front interface. But what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with the article is that people didn't find that they

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<v Speaker 1>excelled at winding copper coils like Bob did or finding

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<v Speaker 1>the parts, and so they wrote him and said, where

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<v Speaker 1>can I get a full built Thereman? And so my

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<v Speaker 1>father started our a Moke co with my grandfather's support,

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<v Speaker 1>to not only self thereman parts, but also fully built thereman's.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the beginning. Bob's Thereman business was booming. He

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<v Speaker 1>was selling his own models left and right, and this

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<v Speaker 1>success is what laid the conceptual groundwork and provided the

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<v Speaker 1>financial means for his work to come. In synthesis. What

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<v Speaker 1>happened is he was at a music educator's conference in

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<v Speaker 1>New York rapping his theoreman's and a young professor from

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<v Speaker 1>Hostra University approached him and said, listen, I have one

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<v Speaker 1>of your melodia theramans. I use it in my ear

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<v Speaker 1>training classes, and I'm an experimental jazz composer as well

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<v Speaker 1>as being a professor of music, and there are all

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<v Speaker 1>these sounds that I've to make in my experimental jazz

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<v Speaker 1>compositions that I just can't make with splicing tape, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the technology that was available then. This gentleman's name

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<v Speaker 1>was Herb Deutsch, and he said to my dad, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you could help me build something that would

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<v Speaker 1>make these sounds that I'm envisioning for my compositions. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that began a year long conversation that ended in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of nineteen sixty four when Herb, with a

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<v Speaker 1>two d dollar grant from host University, spent three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>during that summer working with my dad on creating the

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<v Speaker 1>first prototype of the more synthesizer. And essentially it was

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<v Speaker 1>this collaboration where Herb would say, listen, as a musician,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I need, and my dad would build

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<v Speaker 1>it and then her would test him say I need

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<v Speaker 1>more of this or less of this. Okay, well well

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<v Speaker 1>now we have this, say the oscillator tone generating source

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<v Speaker 1>than what, Well then I need to sculpture somehow. So

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<v Speaker 1>they worked together over three weeks, and then they eventually

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<v Speaker 1>brought in other people over the summer, and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>lectured on this voltage controlled synthesis that he had developed

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<v Speaker 1>in October of nine four the Audio Engineering Society. So

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<v Speaker 1>this big board here is where the sound is made.

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<v Speaker 1>Appropriately enough, we call the analog board. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>parts on you. Each section of this board here corresponds

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<v Speaker 1>to one section of the of the front panel. These

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<v Speaker 1>are cold connectors here bringing the electrical signals that tell

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<v Speaker 1>the analog circuitry what pitch to go at, when to

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<v Speaker 1>start a note and when to stop it and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>And he started selling his modules at that convention, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is when he was offered a booth that someone

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<v Speaker 1>else had vacated. He didn't even plan on exhibiting there.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was there with like a bridge table with

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of bohemian table cloth of my mom's and

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<v Speaker 1>a few little modules. I mean, this has just started.

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<v Speaker 1>And he started getting orders. He got an order her

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<v Speaker 1>from our one Nikolai Wendy Carlos and by hitting a

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<v Speaker 1>note on the keyboard. Now I'm connected up, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear that one sound. It's very low sound, it's very bright.

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<v Speaker 1>If I manually turn this knob, you listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>sound get considerably duller gets very dull down here. Prior

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<v Speaker 1>to Bob Moog, there had been some work in synthesis already.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned a few examples at the beginning, like the

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<v Speaker 1>r C A Mark two. There were people working in

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<v Speaker 1>synthesis prior to that. Harold Boda was one of those people,

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<v Speaker 1>and also Vladim r Usachski, who was working at the

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<v Speaker 1>Columbia Princeton Electronic Music Studio. They had the r C

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<v Speaker 1>A Mark synthesizer. The r C A synthesizer was this huge,

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<v Speaker 1>room sized synthesizer that function by punch tape, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was very very different, and it was really run by academics.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bob was a musician, so he wanted to create

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<v Speaker 1>something not to be studied in a lab, but to

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<v Speaker 1>be used for the purposes of musical expression. What Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Mug did is he took the synthesis that had already

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<v Speaker 1>begun to be developed and created a system that was

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<v Speaker 1>accessible to musicians. At the very beginning, that was accessible to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe some more experimental musicians originally, but eventually

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<v Speaker 1>a few people, a few very talented people who were

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<v Speaker 1>able to understand modular synthesis decided to wrap those instruments.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking right now, Paul Beaver and Bernie Cross on

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<v Speaker 1>the West coast. M Yeah. What they did is they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to sell Moog synthesizers in Los Angeles and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a really hard time. The modulars were big, heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to transport, very expensive. They cost as much as

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<v Speaker 1>a small house at that time, and they were having

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time getting people to embrace them. They talked

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<v Speaker 1>to someone at their record label. They actually had a

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<v Speaker 1>record kind of that was a demonstration of the Mog

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<v Speaker 1>synthesizer on non such records, and they talked to Jack Holsman,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the CEO, and said, you know, we're having

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time getting people to understand these instruments. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we should do? He said, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>bring them to the Honorary Pop Festival, which happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of n And they did that at and

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<v Speaker 1>what they didn't expect is that they were absolutely mobbed

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<v Speaker 1>with people. They had a tent with a mug modular

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and they were mobbed with people to the

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<v Speaker 1>extent that they had to have security assist them in

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<v Speaker 1>creating a line. But what came out of that is

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<v Speaker 1>the Monkeys, the Doors, Simon and Garf Uncle and the

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<v Speaker 1>Birds all subsequently bought mog synthesizers. The Doors were the

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<v Speaker 1>first to use it. Later and by the time nine

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<v Speaker 1>rolled around, the Beatles were using it. It should go

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<v Speaker 1>without mentioning that in there Wendy Carlos came out with

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<v Speaker 1>the groundbreaking record Switched sham Bab, which didn't just use

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<v Speaker 1>it as these cool sounds in the background, but it

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<v Speaker 1>used it exclusively. It was an entire album of Bach

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<v Speaker 1>music translated with the mog synthesizer, which is incredibly hard

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Wendy told me that it would take her

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes to do nine notes because she was constantly

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<v Speaker 1>having to patch and repatch. And then Keith Emerson of

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<v Speaker 1>Emerson Like and Palmer actually then of the Nice Heard

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<v Speaker 1>switched sham Bach and then he got a huge modular system.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was really these very ambitious musicians, all in

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<v Speaker 1>their own ways, who helped bring the more synthesizer to

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<v Speaker 1>the four of the public consciousness, and it was the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest use of synthesis in that way. Now, Don bouk

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<v Speaker 1>Law also developed a synthesizer at about the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that Bob did, but his approach was very different. They

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<v Speaker 1>were not quite as accessible to most musicians, so they

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<v Speaker 1>were a little bit more what you might call experimental,

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<v Speaker 1>so not as well known the most synthesizers. They were

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<v Speaker 1>the tool of popular musicians, and that is why they

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<v Speaker 1>came into the popular consciousness earlier and in a much

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<v Speaker 1>stronger way than any other synthesizer at that time. As

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.280
<v Speaker 1>mog synthesizers picked up in popularity, you heard them everywhere,

0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and so the sound of the mog became a distinct

0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.720
<v Speaker 1>cultural statement that an older sister that was a big

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Beatles and a Monkey's fan. So those were two of

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<v Speaker 1>the first pop groups that actually used the synthesizer and

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<v Speaker 1>a recording. And I remember hearing that. I must have been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eight or nine years old or whatever, and going,

0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, what's that sound? You know, that's that's interesting.

0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.760
<v Speaker 1>There's something about that that really kind of pulls you in,

0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you resonate with that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is August Whorlie. I'm an electrical engineer and

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<v Speaker 1>a musician and the former More Music technician, both up

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in Muffalo, New York, the Old Factory and down here

0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.359
<v Speaker 1>in Asheville the Newer Factor. I work for Bob and

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<v Speaker 1>developing the Mini More Voyagers synthesizer. I asked August where

0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.840
<v Speaker 1>his story with synthesizers began it and his answer surprised me.

0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I started working on my own equipment as a bassist,

0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:10.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, amplifiers and designing speaker cabinets, and just started

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<v Speaker 1>tinkering around. He's taking a part of my parents stereo systems,

0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and I decided to buy a moke Torus bass pedal synthesizer,

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and so that was my first synthesizer and reading up

0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.159
<v Speaker 1>on it and exploring all the sounds it's It was

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<v Speaker 1>a really good, rudimentary, primary sort of synthesizer because it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have all the bells and whistles. It was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much straight ahead, you know, didn't have all the modulation

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.399
<v Speaker 1>or noise or any of those other things. It was

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<v Speaker 1>reutilitarian and it was just a lot of fun to

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<v Speaker 1>work with that technology as well as being a bass player.

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.879
<v Speaker 1>People marvel at Getty Lee or whatever because all the

0:19:54.920 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff he had. I never ever heard of Getty Lee

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing all that. You know, as August

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<v Speaker 1>got more interested, he started thinking about synth technology as

0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a future career path, and one day that opportunity fell

0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 1>into his lap. I was getting close to graduating. I

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<v Speaker 1>really had no idea what I wanted to do. I

0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>think it was about two weeks before I graduated when

0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>my lab partner sat down before class and said, hey,

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I've got a friend of mine I worked at more Music,

0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and he said that they're hiring. I'm gonna go down

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:34.919
<v Speaker 1>there and put in a job application. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>go And it was like, well, let me think about that. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the interesting thing was that I always like to

0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.199
<v Speaker 1>tell people that my first job was working on the

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.480
<v Speaker 1>space shuttle. At the time, More Music had a subcontract

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.680
<v Speaker 1>with Fisher Price Toy manufacturing Company to do a little

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:57.400
<v Speaker 1>space shuttle, the Alpha Pro, the Alfa Rican sled Here,

0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the electronic sound system Blast, all communications on redd Alert,

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:09.120
<v Speaker 1>astroplots here on here, life support cable for space walking

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on docking now for the Crucist No No, the Electronic

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Alpha Probe by Fisher Price. They needed testers audio testers

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.080
<v Speaker 1>for the little circuit boards that went into their Space shuttle.

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I listened to this little Space Shuttle board make, you know,

0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 1>sample and hold noises and take off noises and all

0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.159
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff for I think about two weeks.

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 1>It was a second shift job. But August wanted to

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.679
<v Speaker 1>do more. He wanted to build his own synthesizers, so

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>he found a clever way to do that. I built

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:50.680
<v Speaker 1>am source from rejected parts from the assembly line. You're

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw that digital board out, may I haven't. So

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I just started taking parts home and building the unit up.

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And I still haven't. And that was just the big

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<v Speaker 1>inning of a long and storied career in audio engineering.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured August would be the perfect person to help

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<v Speaker 1>us understand how synthesizers actually worked. Probably the first place

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to start with thinking about how a synthesizer works is

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of a an input in an output where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a beginning of middle and an end to the

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<v Speaker 1>signal path until it comes out the other end, which

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>can then be amplified and heard. So the first place

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:32.199
<v Speaker 1>to start was the concept of voltage control, where you

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.679
<v Speaker 1>have a control voltage which doesn't really make a sound

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:39.720
<v Speaker 1>in and of itself, but it tells things like oscillators

0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and filters and envelope generators what to do. So an

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>oscillator is a periodic waveform generator. By inputting a control

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 1>voltage into it of a certain level, you can control

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the frequency of it. You can control the pitch. So

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.439
<v Speaker 1>that lends itself to being able to be connected to

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<v Speaker 1>something that has a discrete incremental array, like a keyboard,

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>so that when you move left to right, the voltage

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 1>goes up, and therefore the pitch will follow that control voltage,

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>And so the keyboard is a good starting point for that.

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>But you don't have to use a keyboard to control

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the pitch of the oscillator. You can use anything that

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>creates a voltage. Crawford, the guys used to have suit

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>jackets that had conductive lapels, or when you touch the

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>lapel of their jacket, you could generate a control voltage

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and put it into you know, the synthesizer, So you

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>use your clothing as a control voltage source. The more

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>oscillators you add, the more textures you can add to

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the sound. And different waveforms that you can create in

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>order to thicken the sound and give the oscillator a

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<v Speaker 1>different texture. That's how you can emulate some of the

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>real instruments, such as you know saxophone, which is a

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>soft wave. O bos are a triangle wave, so you

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 1>can emulate real instruments or just completely derive a texture

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>out of your imagination by what you have. One of

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>the most popular features of a synthesizer is the sequencer.

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>A sequencer basically is just what it says. You're able

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<v Speaker 1>to put an array of elements in a row in

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>order to create melodies or austinato patterns that is a

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 1>pattern and repeats. And I remember there was always this

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 1>debate about having sequencers there at all, because it's now

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you're turning it over to robots. But it's like anything

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>else with music, depends on how your approaches. Let's demonstrate.

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>While I was touring the Maxim and playing around with

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>a synthesize, I got to try out a few sequencers.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen for all the different patterns they can create. SEP

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>SEP sep SEP sequencers are just one of the many

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>innovations Bob mog developed specifically for musicians. As Michelle Moke

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, Bob was devoted to serving musicians. August agrees

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 1>with that entirely. From the mid sixties to the pretty

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>much so. When the minimal came along, sequencers were big,

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>expensive and complicated, and we're only available to the very

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>wealthy or to large universities or organizations recording studios, that

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. And then by the time the seventies

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>came along, there was a certain credibility associated with the synthesizer,

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and it looked like people were actually using these creatively.

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Mogul is exceptional and that we did listen to the

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>musicians what the musicians were looking for, always informed the design,

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, just trying again make these more available for

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>common musicians in order to give them the tools. With

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>the success of the first move, the Moke modular business

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>was good throughout the mid sixties, but by around nine

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>nine it became obvious that people needed something that was

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>more affordable, that was more portable. Here's Michelle Moog again.

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, Arimko was having a hard time

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>supporting itself because there was a huge cell of modulars,

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>but then it kind of peaked and declined and the

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>company was in financial trouble. So while my dad was

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>actually out looking for someone to invest in his company

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to help it survive, a couple of his engineers started

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>coming up with the idea of building something that was

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 1>much smaller, that was very basic. So they came up

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>with what would become the prototypes for the Minimog. In

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 1>an analog synthesizer like this, we start out with an oscillator.

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Oscillator produces a steady pitch sound, and then this synthesizer

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>we can control the oscillator sound from either the keyboard,

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>from a pitch wheel, or automatically through modulation real Roo Roue.

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>The mini Mog would essentially be a smaller, more condensed

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>version of the Mog modular. It could almost fit in

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>your lap, and it had only a fraction of the features,

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>but it was more accessible. Bob initially did not like

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the idea of taking these glorious modulars that had over

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty thousand different sounds and minimizing it

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>down to something, you know, much much less than that,

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>but his engineers realized that if the company were to survive,

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>they had to make something smaller. The result was the

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Mini Mooge, which later became the best selling analog synthesizer

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of all time. Twelve thou two hundred and sixty nine

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>units were produced between nineteen seventy and two, and that

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>basically set a course for MOG synthesizers after that to

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>be accessible. There was a variety of things that happened

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to MOG synthesizers after that. They became smaller and smaller,

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>some of them with less capability but still very robust sound.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Just trying to address different needs in the marketplace, they

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>started incorporating things like small ribbon controllers so that there

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>was different ways to access to sound. After that, the

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>memory Mouge made use of stored presets, which some of

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the instruments did not have before that time, and eventually

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>some of the instruments became MITI capable, and that's about

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>when that part of mode music ended. The mid eighties

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is when everything changed for synthesis with the invention of MIDI,

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that is, musical instrument digital interface analog. Since such as

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>MOG became old news. Digital keyboards like the Yamaha d

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>X seven became the music industry standard, much to the

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>dismay of engineers like August. It's funny. Everybody at MOG

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>just really hated the sound. Who are so used to

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the analog sound and those textures in that warmth at

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>hearing these digital keyboards. Really, these things that these guys

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>are kicking our ass in the marketplace because we think

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they sound horrible. I'm sure you know the sound stuff

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>like aha or alphaville. You heard the same four or

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>five sounds on the radio all the time. You know,

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>as soon as the latest hit top forty song came

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>on and the guy takes a keyboard solo, they go, oh, yeah,

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>that's preset number twenty three on the d X seven

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>because everybody's using that one. You know, problem with those

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>keyboards was that they were very difficult to program. You know.

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>That was another thing that we just couldn't get our

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>heads around. It's like, okay, so you've got this sound

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>on your memory mug or whatever, and if you want

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to change it, all you have to do is grab

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a knob, you know, and there it is with these things.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, you had to go into sub menues after

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>sub menu after sub menu in order to change a

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>parameter and then enter it and then hopefully it's what

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you're after because it was such opinion, he is to

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 1>go back and change it. Some people made entire careers

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>out of programming d X seven sounds. August says, that's

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>soon enough, digital synthesis expanded to the point where it

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>dominated the music recording industry. Synthesizers were always at that

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>time were usually found in the context of a traditional band.

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>So the synthesizer was added into the guitar based and

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>drums and vocals and all that other kind of stuff.

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like that little chair in the top of

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the cake, and then more and more started to overtake

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the other aspects of the musical composition. So then before

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you knew what you had synthesizers that were the drums,

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>synthesizers that were the base, and synthesizers that were emulating

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the guitar, using synthesizers in the vocal parts like the

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>vote quarter. So you know, this idea of a purely

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>electronic sonic source or modification technology was of the production

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>from beginning to end. The microphone is probably about the

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>only thing that wasn't an actual digital component of the

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>single chain. So why was MOGS so committed to analog

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>versus digital? We didn't realize that at the time, but

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>as I look back on and now, I think the

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that we were so used to hearing, which is

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>why analog keyboards came back, was that there's a warmth.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>There's an ephemeral quality to that form of signal generation

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that I think people connect with in a very different way.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think from the esoteric perspective, I think it's

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>because we are continuous beings and so we resonate more

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>strongly with continue its waveforms. Despite whatever your sample rate

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>is on a digital keyboard, you will always have a

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>discrete aspect to the way the digital waveform is being

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>generated because you've basically got a series of ones and

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>zeros that are being read out of memory to create

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:22.959
<v Speaker 1>a waveform that's always going to be, it's very essence,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a non continual waveform, whereas analog is a continual waveform.

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>But by the time we adopted the the notion of

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>doing a digital synthesizer, the company was already in pretty

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>bad shape. The taste that changed away from analog, and

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>with that, Moog went out of business. The company officially

0:33:46.120 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>declared bankruptcy, but that wasn't the end of music. For

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a while, things were tough for Bob Moge Music closed

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>in the late eighties and he lost the rights to

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>his name in the Mogan Music trademark. Move Music and

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo went out of business. It started really slowing down,

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was laid off at the end of nineteen

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>eighty four, but the kind of picked up a few

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>service things for them here and there until they've just

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>completely closed their doors and five. But I was always

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>involved with all the different people. It's almost like a

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>family working at that company. So I still maintained connections

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of the people from back in the day.

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>An acquaintance that I worked with that Mog Music had

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>contacted me because he had got a call from Keith

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Emerson to do some work for I'm just like in

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Palmer because they were going back out on tour again

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and at that time there was no mo Music and

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of people knew about that technology,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and I happened to be one of them, so that's

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>how I sort of slid into that. So I got

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the tour with Emerson, like Palmer, off and on for

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>about three years. Meanwhile, Bob Mog was determined to get

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the rights to his name back in two thousand two.

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>After a lengthy legal battle, Bob succeeded and he reopened

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Mogan Music in Asheville, North Carolina. August Whorley was one

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of the first to hear that Bob was back in business.

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw that Bob Mog was announcing that he was

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be doing another synthesizer, like one last synthesizer.

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>He had said that, you know, he realized he was

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>getting on in years and wanted to take some of

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that was in his head and dump it

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>into younger heads. And I sort of took notice of that.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Eventually got around it just calling him out of the blue.

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I introduced myself as Bob. I We've never met, but

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I've worked for everybody you've ever hired back at the

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>old Mog Music, and I'm three names down from you

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>in the special thanks liner notes on the list. There

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>were something so that kind of caught his attention. I

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>showed him only materials for the work for Keith and

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>all the rest of that kind of stuff, and he

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 1>knew all the guys that are worked with. He said, right, okay,

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you're you're in. I like what I see. The next thing,

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm helping Bob Do, another synthesizer. August worked

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>closely with Bob to develop the Minimog Voyager, a successful

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 1>return to form for the Mog synthesizer. The two thousands

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>saw a renewed interest in analog synthesizers, and MUG was

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:40.479
<v Speaker 1>once again a thriving and innovative business. Here's Michelle Mug.

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>The modern day m Music, which is located here in Nashville,

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>has a long line of incredible synthesizers, starting with the Voyager,

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and they are constantly innovating and evolving as well, selling

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>thousands and tens of thousands of instruments all over the

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>world every year. August Worley was a huge part of

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that success. He says getting to work with Bob Moag

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>was one of the greatest experiences of his life. I

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>had a father that I love very much, but Bob

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>was kind of the father that understood me because we

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>used to complete each other's sentences, you know, having been

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>involved in that professional capacity. I think the biggest thing

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>that Bob did for me is that he made me

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>be more confident in my ideas, so I wasn't afraid

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>to present some of these crazy ideas that kind of

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>popped into my head. You know, I remember having a

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>conversation once with him, or a sort of outlining, Oh yeah,

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and then it worked for this company, and here's what

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>we did for a radar simulator or a prepress computer system,

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>or interfacing a deck main frame with an Apple too.

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>And the thing he said to kind of close out

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the conversation was I really envy you your broadness, of

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>your level of expertise in experience, He said, all I've

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>ever done his work on synthesizer, and I was kind

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of like, okay, well, you know, you've pretty much invented

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the bloody industry. I mean, I don't think I have

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to really apologize Bob is envious of my experience and professional,

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, credentials. It's like, okay, whatever. I asked Michelle

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>mug what it was like growing up with Bob for

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a dad. He held his career at arm's length from us,

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>just because I think he was a little uncomfortable with

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>his celebrity and his fame, and he really just wanted

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a place where he could be Bob or Dad. I

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>would say, I knew a very kind of surface level.

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>We all knew that Dad had invented the synthesizer. We

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>knew that he was famous. We knew that he had

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>gotten a Grammy. We knew that he knew and loved

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of very cool musicians, that he was revere,

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>heard that he wrote articles in well known magazines. We

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>had a solid idea of his stature. What we didn't

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>realize is maybe the impact of his work. The only

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>access I really ever had to his work in my

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>early years was when he did have either a basement

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>workshop in our house or a workshop across the driveway.

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I would go at night in my pajamas to give

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>him a kiss good night, because his routine was he

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 1>would stop working around six or seven, we'd have dinner

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that my mom always cooked, and then my parents would

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>take a little nap, and then my dad would go

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>back out to work until eleven o'clock or midnight. So

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>by the time it was time for me to go

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to bed around eight thirty or whatever it was, depending

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>on how old I was, I would pad out to

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the driveway and I would always kind of stand at

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the threshold of the office before opening the door, just

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>to listen to what my dad was doing. I had

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>no context for under standing it, but I was interested,

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and then I would, you know, go in and just

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>give him a kiss at night. But it was always

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of clear when we went in the workshop that

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>we weren't there for long. You know, he was busy

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and he was very serious and very focused, and so

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just a quick, brief, tender moment and then

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I would I would leave. So he never said, hey,

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>come look at this mini mug, or I've gotten the

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>mug prototype here, which he did in two I think

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>he restored the mug prototype for the Henry Ford Museum,

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and he never showed it to us. He was so humble.

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>This humility was kind of legendary, and that extended to

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>our household. He just didn't make a big deal out

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>of his own work, to the extent that in his

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>later years, when he was up for a technical grammy,

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>my stepmother said to him, you know, Bob, you've got

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.439
<v Speaker 1>to tell the kids, and he said, why, what's it matter.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I did have a little bit more awareness as I

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>got a little older, and then probably the pinnacle of

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>my understanding prior to my father's illness was when I

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>was about twenty one, I was a senior in college.

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>My dad actually invited me to come to a NAM

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>show with him, which is the first time he had

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 1>ever done anything like that. I don't think I had

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>spent any time alone with my father like that prior

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to that. So I went to the NAM show with him,

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was a very weird experience seeing how revered

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>he was, to the extent that there was a guy

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 1>who dropped to his knees in front of my dad

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and just just like, Oh my god, you're Bob Moog,

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 1>You're my hero. He went on and on and made

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>my dad so uncomfortable. Nothing against the guy doing that,

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>but and I just felt like I was having this

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>totally surreal, out of body experience because here I am

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 1>just walking around with my cool, geeky dad and all

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, there's all this adulation going on. But

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>there were some other experiences similar to that that helped

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>me understand some of the impact he had. But the

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>real impact came when he got ill. In the late

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>spring of two thousand five, he discovered that he had

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a brain tumor, and unfortunately it was inoperable, and things

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.479
<v Speaker 1>rather quickly declined, and at one point on my brother

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Matthew set up a page on the Carrying Bridge dot

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>com for him to be able to journal out how

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>he was doing, and it was really he didn't but

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>other people in the family did just to keep people apprised.

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>And originally it was just meant for forty people, forty

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of his friends around the world, but it quickly became

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>public and in the first seven weeks, sixty thousand people

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>went on that site. Bob moved passed away on August one,

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>two thousand five. On the day he died, twenty thousand

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:53.280
<v Speaker 1>people logged onto the site, and over four thousand people

0:42:53.880 --> 0:43:00.280
<v Speaker 1>left testimonials on that page speaking to how Bob Loge

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>had inspired them, how he had changed their life, how

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>he had transformed their life, how because of Bob mog

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>they were musicians, How Bob Moge gave them their creative voice,

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>how Bob Mogan inspired them to be an engineer, and

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>these testimonials just went on and on and on. At

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the time, I owned a small business of my own.

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.959
<v Speaker 1>I had two young children, five and ten years old,

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and I would um go at night and help take

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>care of him. And then when I would put my

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>kids to bed, I would go down and I would

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 1>read these testimonials, and I would honestly just cry the

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>whole time because it was like, for the first time

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 1>someone was introducing me to Bob Mug. I did not

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>know Bob Mogan until I was thirty seven and he died.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>And it was those people through Caring Bridge that not

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>only you know, knocked down the kind of walls that

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>my father put up around his Bob Mog persona to

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of protect the family from that celebrity, but enlightened

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my family to this incredible depth and

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>breadth that the impact he made had on people all

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>over the world. We had people from sixty seven different

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>countries leave testimonials. Michelle says, those testimonials or what inspired

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>her to create the Bob Mog Foundation in two thousand six.

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>When you have an inspirational force like that, something that

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you can use to change the world in a positive way,

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that it not only deserves to be carried forward, but

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>it really demands to be carried forward because you don't

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>get opportunities like that very often. So it was the

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>family who said, you know, we really, we really need

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to do something important here, and that's when the foundation

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>was created. The official mission is to inspire people through

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>the intersection of science, music, innovation and technology, which is

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>essentially a mirror reflection of Bob MoG's legacy itself through

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>our three projects. We have three different projects. Dr Bob

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>sold School, which is our hallmark educational project that teaches

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>little kids about the science of sound through music and technology.

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>We have the Bob Mog Foundation Archives, which is a

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>vast collection of over ten thousand pieces of archival material

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that we protect, preserve, and share with other museums and researchers.

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>And then we have the Mogsium in downtown Nashville, North

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Carolina that carries that mission forward to inspire both children

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and adults through all these interactive exhibits that bring Bob

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Mug's legacy alive, not just his life story and his

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 1>work story, but the science that really drove his work,

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to science and engineering that he was so passionate about.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>One has to wonder what might Bob Mog have done

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in today's world with today's technology. Well, Michelle has some

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>insight into that. At the end of his life, he

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>really was more focused not on synthesis itself, but on

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>how we were accessing synthesizer interfaces. He told one of

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>his engineers at move Music that the keyboard wasn't antiquated interface,

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and that we needed to move on. He told him

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that when he was moving his office, he was already

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.879
<v Speaker 1>walking with a cane because his left side had become

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat debilitated because of his brain, and he knew he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going back, and those were his parting words to

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<v Speaker 1>that engineer. And my dad had been working on multi

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<v Speaker 1>touch sensitive interfaces for decades at that point, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had been developing a multi touch sensitive keyboard with an

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<v Speaker 1>avant guarde opera composer named John Eaton. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>work was actually ahead of its time, and what he

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<v Speaker 1>was aiming for is ubiquitous now. The roly controllers, the

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<v Speaker 1>Hawk and Continuum. The Hawk and Continuum as a newer

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<v Speaker 1>instrument made of foam. It's not unlike a keyboard, but

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<v Speaker 1>you hold it more like a guitar. You can manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds based on the speed with which you move

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<v Speaker 1>your fingers, the amount of pressure you apply, and all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of other new parameters, all of that touch sensitivity,

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<v Speaker 1>pressure sensitivity, velocity sensitivity. He was working on all of

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<v Speaker 1>that starting in He actually told my stepmother that the

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<v Speaker 1>multi touch sensitive keyboard he felt was his most important

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<v Speaker 1>contribution to the world of music. He felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>world of synthesis had kind of gone far enough, but

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't enough human nurance in that world. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he was really interested in near the end of his life. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I played the Hackam continuum. That is a really interesting technology.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I ever checked it out, that foam

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<v Speaker 1>keyboard idea and being able to interface with the sound

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<v Speaker 1>in a tactile way led me to believe that it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a winner, because there is always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that barrier between the musician and the

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<v Speaker 1>musical instrument. The more steamless that is, the more useful

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<v Speaker 1>and expressive it is. Because at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these are all supposed to be a means

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<v Speaker 1>of expression for the musician, and so being able to

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<v Speaker 1>interact with the sound that you're creating is is imperative.

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<v Speaker 1>And even Bob recognized that aspect of the synthesizers, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why you always wanted to incorporate some would into

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<v Speaker 1>the instrument. And we as humans feel connection to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because it used to be alive. So

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<v Speaker 1>being able to connect with that at some level, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is what makes a musical instrument much more expressive.

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<v Speaker 1>But I kind of think that the actual synthesizer is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of reached full maturity. I mean, the actual sound source.

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<v Speaker 1>You can keep any more stuff onto it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think any future progress is probably going to be made

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<v Speaker 1>in the domain of how we control and express what

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<v Speaker 1>that sound is. Even still, August says we should continue

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<v Speaker 1>to explore the world of analog synthesis. There's still plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of sounds to be discovered. I like to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>story that some of the best sounds I ever got

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<v Speaker 1>out of a memory mode was back at the factory

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<v Speaker 1>on my test bench just before they died. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you'd start playing this thing and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this thing's got a problem. It starts getting

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of crunchy, and like, Trevor, you gotta hear

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<v Speaker 1>this sound, man, This thing sounds like it's just about

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<v Speaker 1>the like the bed part of my French And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he put the headphones on and go, wow, that is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>If only we can make it do that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You put the headphones on and play like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of chords, and then it just stops. I was like, oh, correct, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta find out what's wrong with it. But in

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<v Speaker 1>that thirty five seconds, man, it was like audio bliss.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Ephemeral was written and assembled by Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Young and produced with Max and Alex Williams. August Borley

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<v Speaker 1>is a former engineer for mog Music, and Michelle Mokusa

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<v Speaker 1>is the executive director of the Bob Mogue Foundation. Special

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to Michelle for the tour of the Mogzium, which

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<v Speaker 1>you can visit any time you're in downtown Asheville, North Carolina.

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