1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with text up from dot 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: com either and welcome to text UFF. I'm Jonathan Strickland 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: and I'm Line and we're picking up where we left 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: off last episode, which was about pneumatic tubes. Yes, because 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: who knew they were a really big thing for a 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: really long time. Yeah, and pretty cool. You know. I 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: know a lot of people say they both suck and blow, 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: but personally I think they're pretty awesome. They do, but 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: in a cool way. Yeah, like like that's what they 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: literally do. Yeah, a fan, Yeah, because it's it's pneumatic 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: tubes are a air pressurization system that moved the thing 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: from one point to Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, last time, 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: we just left off with a Mr. Beach, the inventor 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: and engineer who sunk a lot of his personal fortune 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: into the attempt to create a new men the subway 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: system in New York, which ultimately did not happen failed completely. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: But we're still in the eighteen hundreds, yeah, and lots 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: more stuff was going on. In e one, D. Brown 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: would patent the cash Carrier, which was in in the 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: United States, which was an in building system for sending 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: money throughout department stores. Um. These suckers operated for decades. 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: UM One Philadelphia retailer, Wannamakers, installed a really huge system 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty. That was just a year after they 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: got electric lighting. I've actually seen these in department stores. 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen one of these? I don't think 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I have now, So there were some old department stores 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: in UM in Georgia where they still use these. And 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: I'll talk more about, you know, the purpose of these 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: in department stores, because I'm sure there's still quite a 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: few that still have them, um behind the scenes, yeah, 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: or or it's one of those things that maybe it's 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: just one of those that's only in older buildings. And 33 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: you know whether or not they're still in use a 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: question that you know, that's a different question. But I've 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: actually seen them operated, and I remember wondering how they worked. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure my dad made up a completely 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: fictional like. I'm sure they were like hobbits. Yeah. I 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: don't ask science fiction writers to explain science kind my dad, 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: but if he doesn't know the answer, he will be 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: more than happy to make it up. And here's the thing, 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: you probably knew the answer too, So at any rate, yes, 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: and um and by six the postal tube system in 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: London stretched for thirty four miles that's about fifty four 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: kilometers underneath the city, and it was transmitting thirty two 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: thousand messages per day. It speeds up to fifty one 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: miles per hour. That's about eighty two kilometers per hour. 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: That's pretty fast. Uh. Yeah, the mail was carried by 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: what they referred to at the time of street tubes, 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: which were these like two point five inch diameter tubes 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: that were made lad and encased in iron ducks a 51 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: couple of feet beneath the street. Um. Today, some of these, 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: like I said at the top of our previous episode, 53 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: are still intact and are used to house telecom cables. 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Really is a series of tubes before it really is? Uh. 55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Then in two the US Congress would authorize an investigation 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: into this crazy pneumatic mail system thing. Um. This was 57 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: headed up by Postmaster General John when Amaker, who is 58 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: totally the same dude who owns those lines of department stores. Uh. 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, he would would take charge of the project. Yeah, 60 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool. He's a pretty rad dude, by the way. 61 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: If if I'm not sure if history mist in history 62 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: has ever talked about him, but he basically created the 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: idea of the department store and is you know, went 64 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: on to be Postmaster General, did a bunch of stuff. So, 65 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: due to his influence, in seven, New York City would 66 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: open their own pneumatic mail system that would send letter 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: and parcels on a loop under Manhattan at about about 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: thirty miles per hour forty kilometers per hour, not not 69 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: too shabby, respectable speed. All of this was operated by 70 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the Tubular Dispatch Company. Fully it were the totally tubularular 71 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: that would probably be the California right right, maybe maybe 72 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: in l a um. According to the USPS, at peak productivity, 73 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: six million pieces of mail went through the system daily. 74 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: That's a rate of five carriers per minute each with 75 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: a maximum load of some five hundred letters. Now keep 76 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: in mind this is and remember then eight six, that's 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: when Mr Beach died. That's the guy who was going 78 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: to build the pneumatic tube system. Uh So, so around 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: around that time, lots of cities started to uh to 80 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: to have these crazy pneumatic tube things, um Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Satan Louis, across the pond Aris, Berlin, Vienna. Italy even 82 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: issued specialized stamps for sending mail through tubes. They're really 83 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty I'll have to take a look at those, yes. Uh. 84 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Then in nineteen eleven, pneumatic tubes started being used to 85 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: assist telephone systems. All right, how do you mean? Um? 86 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: This was over in in Britain and they were called 87 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: ticket tubes. They were used in telephone stations to help 88 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: operators account for calls. So so when a call was completed, 89 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: the operator would write up a docket on a on 90 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: a stiff piece of paper that recorded the time of 91 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: the call and then the duration and total charge the 92 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: incurred by the customers. That then fold that stiff piece 93 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: of paper into a sort of sale and just send 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: it straight up to the accounting office. On the same system, 95 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: error messages could also be sent from the switchboards to 96 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the machinery rooms. So this is different from what I 97 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: thought when you said that amanic tubes were being were 98 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: helping out with telephone systems. I just imagine that she 99 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: just started screaming into a tube, and I hope that 100 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: someone somewhere down the line could hear you. They did. Actually, 101 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: I believe that they did actually have some tubes like 102 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: that in some buildings, like just shout into this tube. 103 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Like some of the old old ships had those two 104 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, they were mostly used in in in 105 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 1: naval naval capacities. But I also just love the idea 106 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: of the like original four or four message being like 107 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: sent on a stiff piece of paper that was just 108 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: sailed along. I imagine Google will have to bring that 109 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: back for the full's day sometime in the future. Uh. 110 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Then in nineteen thirteen, one Waldemeir Comfort. Yeah, I think 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Valdemar comfort excellent. I'm so bad at German you think 112 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: that over the years I would have gotten better anyway. Uh. 113 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: He was then the managing editor of Scientific American, and 114 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: he proposed that, like, really soon we should be delivering 115 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: prepared me two homes via pneumatic tubes. He was like, 116 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: this is a direct quote. He was like, if a 117 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: letter can be shot through a pneumatic tube from New 118 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: York to Brooklyn, why not a five course dinner? Now, 119 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: obviously you would want to enclose said meal and some 120 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: sort of container and just having like a turkey shoot 121 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: through the tube at top speed. I don't know, I 122 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: kind of like that idea. You just imagine like, like 123 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I didn't get a full five course meal. I guess 124 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: maybe I did. All I can tell is it's mush now, 125 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: you know. I'd be kind of like having the Willy 126 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Wonka gum, except that all the flavors of all the 127 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: courses are delivered simultaneously speeds of like thirty Yeah, I 128 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: that never took off, not surprisingly. Also, I mean obviously, 129 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: in order to have that even work, first of all, 130 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: the tubes would have to be of a considerable size, 131 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: and also you would have to make sure you had 132 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the appropriate breaking system to make certain that the food 133 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: was not just converted into sludge by the time it arrived. Yes, 134 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: and I and I don't believe that those those air 135 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: braking systems were really developed until like maybe the nineteen thirties, 136 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Um so so. At any rate, in 137 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen, or by nineteen fourteen, rather some third of 138 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: New York City's mail was being sent by pneumatic tube um. 139 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: But oops, hey, that was the year the World War 140 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: broke broke out, um, and so the US Post Office 141 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: suspended the pneumatic mail system on the basis of fuel preservation. UM. 142 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: After the war, the service would be restored, but only 143 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: in New York City and Boston. The other cities of 144 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: the U S there pneumatic mail systems would remain dormant. Ye, 145 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: Now this does make sense. I mean obviously, during the 146 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: World War, you know they're they're using motors that are 147 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: running on fuel, and that fuel was very necessary to 148 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: the war effort. Yeah, or some of them, we're probably 149 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: still running on steam engines. That's true. That's true. And 150 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean even just from a labor or perspective, you 151 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: want to make certain that you are dedicating that labor 152 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: to the efforts that are going to give you the 153 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: most positive outcome from this advantage. Right. Um. Although in 154 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 1: London those were the pneumatic male tube systems were considered 155 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: important enough to keep going. Um. They they kept their 156 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: tubes running through the war. Um especially I think because 157 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: they were tied to um uh telegraphy. So they were 158 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: really useful for keeping secret messages secret during the war, 159 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: especially because you know, other quick communication methods could be 160 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: tapped right, right, So it's obviously tapping into a pneumatic 161 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: tube would be pretty difficult. You just break the tube, right, 162 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: You have to dig under a city street and break 163 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: the tube and the people notice, yeah you do that 164 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: be hard, It would be hard. For you to be 165 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: able to actually intercept a message at all. Yeah, I 166 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: can understand why it would remain to a way of 167 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: sending messages in secret. However, the fact that it's a 168 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: way to send messages in secret also creates a vulnerability. Yeah. 169 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely so. In nineteen forty, the Luftwaffa specifically targeted London's 170 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: pneumatic tube system. Uh. They successfully bombed out a bunch 171 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: of it, and it would take about a year to 172 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: recover the tube system at all, and it would not 173 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: be fully restored until after the war was over. Meanwhile, 174 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: over in Germany, the Berlin system was also targeted, but 175 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: had didn't didn't suffer enough damage for a lot of 176 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: it to be taken offline. I mean, there were parts 177 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: that had to be repaired, but it largely remained operational 178 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: throughout the war. Yeah. Uh. In ninety three, the New 179 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: York City Post Office would shut down their male tubes, 180 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: those famale tubes that had been proposed by Beach back 181 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: in the day. Uh, poor Beach, you just you just 182 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: didn't quite live long enough. I mean, granted, again, the 183 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: electrical system ended up create being the future of the subway, 184 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: but still that I of using it for for freight 185 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: and for mail was something that he could have actually 186 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: if he if he had lived just another year, he 187 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: would have seen it in operations. Although by this point 188 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: the competitor for pneumatic tubes was really motor vehicles. Um, 189 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the Post Office began in investing in trucks, which kind 190 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: of made all of these magic tubes a little bit 191 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: inefficient by comparison. You know, you put you can put 192 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: heavier things, more things in a truck, and you can 193 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: drive it further distances to more than one place. So yeah, um, 194 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: you could actually make multiple stops. Crazy. But meanwhile, around 195 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: the same time, the CIA was busy building a really 196 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: huge tumatic tube system on their campus in Langley, Virginia 197 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: that would wind up transmitting some seven thousand, five hundred 198 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: messages every day. Yea, even the n s A wasn't 199 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: able to read all those. Oh. By nineteen sixty two 200 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: London would also down its street tube system h and 201 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six Berlin which shut THEIRS down as well. 202 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: There was pretty big that if you lined up all 203 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: the tubes in to end, you would have about two 204 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: miles of them, and that's about four d KOs And 205 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: like we said, you know, this one was one that 206 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: was built in eighteen sixty five, made it all the 207 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: way through nineteen seventy six and even survived those World 208 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: Wars mostly intact. So that's pretty pretty impressive. The Paris 209 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: system would last until seven, the Paris the Paris System, 210 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: by the way, it was named the carts a new 211 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: Oh your French, I love you so so dearly. By 212 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: night nine. Even the CIA would give up the pneumatic 213 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: ghost as email began hitting the scene. And now with 214 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: the n s A, I'm sure they're regretting that decision. Well, yeah, 215 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing. In the UK, the government may will 216 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: be using pneumatic tubes. It's latest two thousand three. There's 217 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: a written record of messages being sent between ten Downing 218 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: Street and the and the Foreign Office by pneumatic tube, 219 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: like like right alongside fancy encrypted computer system. And I 220 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: know it's still in use in the Norwegian parliamentary buildings 221 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: because I watched a really cool video. So there's a 222 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: video on YouTube and it's it is Norwegian. They're speaking Norwegian. 223 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: I cannot understand Norwegians, so I do not know what 224 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: the description is. I assume it's an explanation of what 225 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: is about to happen, but probably not saying like this 226 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: entire video is lies. I'm guessing that's probably not the case. 227 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: But in this in this video, they have a canister 228 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: that's outfitted on one end with a go pro and 229 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: a light. So the light obviously is necessary because they 230 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: want to capture what it looks like if you were 231 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: to go through one of these pneumatic tubes. But you 232 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: need the light because it's gonna be dark in there. 233 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: So they have someone from Parliament I assume, set the 234 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: canister into one of the devices. They look like a 235 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: T M S. I'll talk more about that in just 236 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: a second. But they program where it needs to go, 237 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, they select the destination, they hit the button 238 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: and it gets pulled up into the pneumatic system and 239 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: starts rocketing through all those pipes. So you can actually 240 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: watch the journey, and it takes a you know, a 241 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: minute or so for it to get from where they 242 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: sent it to its destination. Uh. And I think they 243 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: even said it so that it hit a place and 244 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: then had to backtrack some because at least that's what 245 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: it looked like. They definitely went through some sort of 246 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: sorting system at least once, which is kind of cool, 247 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Like it's not just a straight shot, which would have 248 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: been you know, I've been like it looks tonnel. Yeah, 249 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: this was a little more exciting. It also looks pretty rough, 250 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of clattering around, which makes you 251 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: think like, yeah, but based on this principle, might not 252 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: have been the most gener toll of rides um, but 253 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: still pretty awesome. And uh, and keep an eye out 254 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: on Facebook and Twitter probably and and tumbler. I'll send 255 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: out a link to the video because it is pretty 256 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: interesting to watch, even if you don't understand Norwegian. But 257 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: that also leads us to a discussion about how pneumatic 258 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: tubes are being used today, you know in the UK, 259 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: may be used for government purposes in Norway as well, 260 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: maybe in the US government, particularly in more secretive circles. 261 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: Kind of hard to say. They don't really advertise that 262 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: they do not. Yeah, no, that part they advertised that 263 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,239 Speaker 1: they are being secretive, just not how they're doing it. Um. 264 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: So in order to really talk about this, one of 265 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: the things I saw and I thought I had to 266 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: bring it up because you know, Lauren was on the 267 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: show to talk about coffee. Oh yeah. The last time 268 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: I was here, we were talking about how coffee machines were. Yeah, 269 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: and as it turns out, there was a pneumatic system 270 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: that's very closely tied to coffee, and I thought i'd 271 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: bring that up. There's actually a video about this too, 272 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: although it's not quite as harrowing as they journey through 273 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: the pneumatic tube. Bought the go pro. So there's a company. 274 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: It's called the Roasting Plant, and it's a coffee company 275 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: that has stores in New York City. When I was 276 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: the video dated to a time when they only had 277 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: a store in Manhattan. But I've seen the plural used 278 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: to describe their stores now, so I assume they're more 279 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: than one. Uh. And they have something called the java Bot. Yeah, 280 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: so here's what the java bot does. You get? They 281 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: actually have green coffee beans, so they right, So these 282 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: are unrested trees exactly, and so you know, once you've 283 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: dried them in everything and then the whole thing. You 284 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: can learn more about that in our episode about how 285 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: coffee machines were. Yeah, we go into the tail because 286 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: there's a subject we're passionate about. It's coffee. Uh. So 287 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: you take the these beans that have not yet been roasted, 288 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: and you put them into canisters that then are attached 289 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: by tubes to a roaster. Now, whenever you need to 290 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: roast a specific type of coffee, it can automatically pull 291 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: the beans from those canisters through the tubes to the roaster. 292 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Once it's done roasting, it sends them through other tubes 293 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: to other storage canisters so that you have your different 294 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: you know, different types of coffee being roasted side by side, 295 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: and they're all sorted properly. And this way, when you 296 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: want a particular type of coffee. Let's say that you 297 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: go in and you're like, I want a mix of 298 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: Sumatran and Ethiopian coffee, you could totally do that and 299 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the system will end up pulling exactly the right number 300 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: of beans from each It measures it automatically, and and yeah, 301 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing is automatic. So it's pretty pretty cool 302 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: to look at. And from what I understand, the way 303 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: they describe their stores is that it's like walking into 304 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: a giant coffee machine, except it's a coffee mach that's 305 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: also a roaster, so it goes beyond what a normal 306 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: coffee machine does. So I'm pretty sure that they have 307 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: to roast the beans ahead of time, because there's no 308 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: way you could roast them fast enough for someone waiting 309 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: for a cup of coffee to get their coffee. I 310 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: think I would think that roasting them that fast would 311 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: have to be at temperatures that you don't really want. 312 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: You just burn the beans. So my guess is that 313 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: they roast them and then what happens is when you 314 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: order a cup of coffee for the first ones that 315 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: had gone through, that's that process. Are the ones served 316 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: up to you. And from what I've heard about the company, 317 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: they don't keep any roasted beans longer than forty eight 318 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: hours because after that they as well they should not 319 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: because now it's no longer as fresh. But they're also 320 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: other uses. A lot of hospital systems are using pneumatic tubes. 321 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's really convenient, as it 322 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: turns out, for transporting um thing things like like specimens 323 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: and documents that have important time stamp pically across campuses. 324 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: And this one really again, after watching that video of 325 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: the pneumatic tube, like the journey through it, it surprised 326 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: me to think of, you know, things like specimens and 327 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: drugs being delivered this way, because typically you consider those 328 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: to be really you know, delicate, delicate, you know, are 329 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: usually in like glass containers and stuff. So I looked 330 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: at a company that does this called swiss Log. It's 331 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: just one company that does pneumatic systems for hospitals. That's 332 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: one of the things they offer. And the pictures explained 333 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: a lot. So the canisters, uh, were not just big 334 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: plastic containers that you would put stuff in. They were 335 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: actually they had a foam in them with openings that 336 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: were just large enough to put in things like a 337 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: vial of blood. So it holds it steady and it's 338 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: padded all around, and then you can close it up. 339 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: And obviously, if you're talking about things like healthcare, talking 340 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: about patient privacy, you're talking about delivery drugs, there's a 341 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: high need for security with these systems. Oh sure, yeah. 342 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: You don't want just anyone walking off the street and 343 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: opening up a canister, right yeah. Whether that's because that 344 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: has you know, drugs that would be illegal for you 345 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: to obtain without a prescription, or it contains some sensitive 346 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: information about a particular person, whatever the reason, you would 347 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: not want that to happen. So a lot of these 348 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: systems also have security measures in place so that you 349 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: cannot retrieve the canister unless you do something else first, 350 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: like insert a pen, So you would have to know 351 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: what the pen was. To retrieve that particular canister, you 352 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: would have a little notification. Again, it looks like an 353 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: a t M. You would walk up to it. It 354 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: would say like a secure carrier. Um, uh, you know 355 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: is in the system, and to retrieve it you would 356 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: have to put in the pen or you might have 357 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: to scan like a badge. So let's say that Lauren 358 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: and I work in the same hospital, and I want 359 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: to send Lauren some some information. I could make sure 360 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: to pick her from a list specifically to to me 361 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: yea of that exactly, you would swipe your badge and 362 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: you'd be the only person capable of retrieving that particular 363 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: uh whatever canisterer and in in hospital. Obviously, cutting down 364 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: on the amount of time it takes to deal with 365 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: this sort of stuff is a huge benefit both to 366 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: the patient and to the hospital itself. So you can 367 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: understand why this sort of system would be put in place. Um, 368 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: they're they're usually these days so complex that they have 369 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: to be controlled by computers because uh, you know, human 370 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: button pushing is not as ideal, especially once you get 371 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: into the really complex systems. I was reading about Stanford Hospitals, 372 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: which started installing this huge numatic system. Before then, a 373 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: team of like twenty people had the job of running 374 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: important samples and results around the expanding Stanford Hospital campus 375 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: um some eight million samples and results per year. And 376 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: and even with that team of twenty people, they were 377 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: frequently short staffed, which is, you know, really bad news 378 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: when the freshness of the samples um or the immediacy 379 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: of the results are are important to a patient's health 380 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: and welfare. According to Stanford, the system as of now 381 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: ish hosts a hundred and twenty four stations. Every nursing 382 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: unit has its own. There are one forty one transfer units, 383 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: nine interzone connectors, and twenty nine blowers um to alert 384 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: employees to the arrival of the containers. The system has 385 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: more than three dozen different combinations of chimes. I can 386 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: only imagine what it's like learning what each chime is signifying. 387 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, no, no, no, honey, that was beat 388 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: beat boop bee boop boop. Yeah, that's not for you. 389 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: If you are hearing two boops, don't even bother. Yeah, 390 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: that that was highway to Hell you're looking for stay 391 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: were close, totally unrelated. One one is much faster to 392 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: a very undesirable location, the other one takes a lot 393 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: more effort, but you love being there. Just think of 394 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: it in those sense. Now you'll be fine. But these 395 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: these canistries that they use can can go up to 396 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: eighteen miles per hour, which means that even at peak 397 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: use of the system, which can which can get very busy, 398 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: it only takes about three minutes for a package to 399 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: transfer the longest route in the system, which is pretty cool. 400 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you've ever been in one of these 401 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: huge hospitals, you have to realize that if you were 402 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: to physically give this to someone and have them running 403 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: across a campus, yeah, and and take elevators or stairs. 404 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean, these these buildings can be gargantuous, like if 405 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: you ever go to um Like here's an example in Atlanta, 406 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Great Memorial Hospital is an enormous beast of a building. 407 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: So clearly, if you have a system of getting this 408 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: through much faster, again, it could be a huge benefit 409 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: both to the hospital and to the patient. So I 410 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: love this next one you have because it terrifies me. 411 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Pneumatic systems are also being used in industrial 412 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: plants and factories, and have been since about the nineteen seventies, 413 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: really powerful tube systems began to to see use as 414 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: transporters of like heavy machine parts and gravel and stuff 415 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: like that with within factories. I mean, I can't even 416 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: fathom how terrifying. Yeah, I didn't read any numbers on 417 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: like exactly the horsepower required for this kind of thing. Uh. 418 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: You know again we're talking air pressure as the thing 419 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: that moves this stuff. That's a lot of air pressure. 420 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: That's scary business. Yeah. I can only imagine the size 421 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: of the canisters too. I mean, you have to have 422 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: something that's going to be creating that seal like this 423 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: start just loose machine parts rattling through tubes. I would 424 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: hope not that would be even more terrifying. Um, But 425 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure it's not like a like a 426 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: civic worth of gravel that you're sending at the station, 427 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: you know, all at once, and and it's probably on 428 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: wheeld system similar to what the dispatch this stem in 429 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: London was. That wasn't you know, Those weren't just giant 430 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: canisters either. Those were the wheeled carts that were still 431 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: pushed pneumatically, but um, we're running along on rails. Uh So. 432 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: Also we talked earlier and in the first episode, we 433 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: talked about the department stores using these two um to 434 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: transport money, and so I was going to talk a 435 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: little bit more about that and the way I saw it. 436 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: So there were two things I saw them used for. 437 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I saw them used when someone would write a check 438 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: at a department store. Instead of storing the check at 439 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: the cashier's desk, they would go ahead and put it 440 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: into one of these canisters put through the numatic tube 441 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: system to be put to the processing center inside inside 442 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: the same store, but on a level that customers never 443 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: went to because it was the office level. And then 444 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: there were also times whenever you were using really um 445 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: large bills that you know, the cashier would not want 446 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: to have that at his or her station the right. Yeah, 447 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to have a lot of high bills 448 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: at a point where you're going to be interacting with 449 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: customers a lot, especially a point where you might have 450 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: to leave the desk, you know. The responsible thing, the 451 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: thing that department stores wanted was to get that that big, 452 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: big money away from the point of contact with customers 453 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: and into the central processing area, which you can do 454 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: by shooting it through neumatic too. And then occasionally you 455 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: would have the people over at the central unit create change. 456 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: So if it was something like you're using a hundred 457 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: dollar bill to buy a three dollar item, then they 458 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: might they might not have the change at the cashier, 459 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: but they would end up being able to do that 460 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: over in the central area and then put it back 461 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: in another caster, send it back down and there you go. So, 462 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: like I said, I used to see this department stores. Um, 463 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: there are a couple of big ones that we would 464 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: go to when I was a kid. Uh some some 465 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: in actual Atlanta and some of them over closer to Gainesville, 466 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: which is where I grew up, Gainesville, Georgia, not Florida. 467 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: And yep there was you know, people are like, oh, Gainesville, 468 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: Florida's no smaller than that little city in in uh 469 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: in Georgia are we were the poultry capital of the 470 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: world and had a statue of a chicken in town square. 471 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: That's not a joke. I didn't think you were joking. 472 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: You can look up images on Google image search if 473 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: you want to and make fun of me. In my 474 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: childhood at any rate. But no, it was really neat 475 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: to see those because the only other time I ever 476 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: saw them was whenever my parents were going to a 477 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: bank to deposit money or to and so you know 478 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: the banks, Like if you were right up there adjacent 479 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: to the bank wall, you don't need a pneumatic system that. Yeah, 480 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: there's there's just a little shelf that you can kind 481 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: of push stuff through right right, yeah, and then you 482 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: know they'll they'll use their their grabbing stick or whatever 483 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: to get it on their side. And then if you 484 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: were like one over or two over, obviously, then you 485 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: would need to have some sort of to livery system 486 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: to get either like deposit slips or retrieve things whatever, 487 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: and that's where the pneumatic tube system would come in. 488 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: So those would be the places where I've seen them 489 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: in action. Uh, And of course I've heard about them 490 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: in other places, but like I want them to be here, 491 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: Like I think we need to have pneumatic tubes. Oh here. 492 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: It has to work, yeah, absolutely, I mean, honestly, once 493 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: the construction in this building is done, we're going to 494 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: have a real absence of irritating, loud, rattling noises. And 495 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: I think that that that is a niche that can 496 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: be filled absolutely by pneumatic tubes. I mean, our HVAC 497 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: system does a pretty good job. I get so tired 498 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: of sending emails, you know. Yeah, and I'm really trying 499 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: to work on my handwriting. I think it could be 500 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I have a feeling we would 501 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: uninstall it after a day, But I am totally in 502 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: favor of saying, let's install pneumatic tube system. Maybe whoever 503 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: sits next to the blower would have a different opinion 504 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: than I do. I suspect so. But at any rate, 505 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: so this has been a really interesting topic. I mean, 506 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: just again, this technology that is so you know, so 507 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: it's it's old, but it's also kind of I don't know, 508 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: there's something about it. I think it has that same 509 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of appeal as steampunk. Yeah. And I had no idea, 510 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: no idea that these systems were so widespread. Yeah, yeah, 511 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: beyond something like you know, the limited use of the bank, 512 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: like inside of a single building. I had no idea 513 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: that they spread throughout cities. Yeah. It's such a such 514 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: an interesting engineering way to get around the problem of 515 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: how do you deliver mail in a dense urban environment 516 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: in a timely manner, um relatively timely at any rate. 517 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: So I mean we could still make that argument today. 518 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was really cool. And Lauren, thank you 519 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: so much for joining me on this pair of episodes. 520 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: Great having you here again. Thank you, thank you for 521 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: having me, Thanks for thanks for agreeing when I said, hey, 522 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: let's do this thing. On the end, it was so 523 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: much fun. And also you should totally watch the video. 524 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we've covered a lot more information than 525 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: we covered in the video, but the videos are amazing work. 526 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Lauren does a great job with the writing 527 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: team and our production crew puts it together and looks great. 528 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah that that may or may not be 529 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: out at the time that this podcast episode publishes. But 530 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: you know what you do is subscribe. Yeah, there you go. 531 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: That's the ticket brain stuff, and then you'll be able 532 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: to catch all the amazing videos you appear in in 533 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: lots of those two I do. Indeed you can. You 534 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: can see my appalling visage. It's only sometimes appalling, and 535 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: only when we completely cover you in fake blood. Yeah 536 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: that did happen this quote unquote fake fake blood. Yeah, hey, 537 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: I helped make that blood, all right, I know it 538 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: was fake. Okay, that's that's much better than the one 539 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: the other way that could have gone. I helped make 540 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: that blood. I was harvesting it from myself because I 541 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: only trust in my own uh No. But but seriously, 542 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: those those videos are phenomenal. You have not been checking 543 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: them out. You have got to go see the brain 544 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: stuff videos as well as the what the Stuff videos 545 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: that you work on. Uh these are it's it's a 546 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: direction that how stuff works has been moving in for 547 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: a while and I think people are just starting to 548 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: pick up on it and they are wildly informative and entertaining. 549 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: So I recommend you go check those out if you 550 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: have not seen them. 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