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Speaker 1: Whatever night it was, did you tell him not to

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Speaker 1: return anything, fair catch everything, always?

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, it was a decision that we made. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: during the course of the game. You know, you got

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Speaker 2: he's our primary punt returner, and especially after he took

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Speaker 2: the shot.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's really the first time I can remember

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Speaker 3: you guys doing that, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's different situation, right, you know, calls for you know,

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Speaker 2: different strategies.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, sure, I mean in that situation, Wance, you're

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Speaker 3: I mean, just do you consider it a one off

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Speaker 3: or did you guys get anything out of that as

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Speaker 3: far as just the idea of you know, getting the

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Speaker 3: ball where you got the ball every time instead.

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Speaker 2: Of no, no, No, it was more of you know, depth issue,

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Speaker 2: making sure that you know, we keep our primary punt

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Speaker 2: returner and not taking a chance to him, you know, taking.

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Speaker 4: A shot that un missed, having Paris on it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's always you know, Paris is a

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Speaker 2: hell of a football player and we all know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you watch them with the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 2: You don't ever want to take a guy like that

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Speaker 2: off the field. But that's you know, that's what the

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Speaker 2: situation called for me. It's just something we had to do.

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Speaker 2: So no, it's you know, you never want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: lose a guy with that kind of talent back then,

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Speaker 2: for sure, what happened on the punt return, what do.

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Speaker 4: You what do you want to see done differently there?

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Speaker 2: You just got to get out of the way, you know,

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Speaker 2: And it's it's kind of hard, you know, you got

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Speaker 2: a high, short punt.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, gunn A did a good job of you know,

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Speaker 2: alerting guys and pointing. But I think it was just

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Speaker 2: one of those deals where you know, Bobby was he was,

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Speaker 2: he was about to react and as soon as he's

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Speaker 2: about to react, the ball hit him, you know. So

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Speaker 2: I mean it's and you see guys kind of moving

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Speaker 2: away from it. But you just you just hope they

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Speaker 2: you know, you can react quicker and maybe be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more animated as a punk return just a

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Speaker 2: little and the guys let him.

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Speaker 1: Know.

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Speaker 2: What do you see from Darnay this season? As the

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Speaker 2: gunner seems like he's really stepped up there. He has,

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Speaker 2: Darnay has worked his tail off. Darnay is always one

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Speaker 2: of the hardest working guys that we have, and uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's starting to pay off for him.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's you know, you look at our tackle

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Speaker 2: chart and it's Nick Darnay, Cam Carter, and I think

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Speaker 2: all of them have like seven tackles a piece. So

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Speaker 2: all of those guys are doing a really good job.

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Speaker 2: And Darnay in particular has really worked his tail off,

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, and he's he's got a little momentum,

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Speaker 2: you know. You know, you know, more plays you make,

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Speaker 2: the more confidence you get, you go make more plays.

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Speaker 2: And he made a heck of play the other night,

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Speaker 2: so you know he's getting better for sure.

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Speaker 4: Do you see that with with guys that you know?

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Speaker 3: Obviously when he first got here, Darnay had a heavy

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Speaker 3: defensive workload the idea, you know, and so when you

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Speaker 3: put him on specials, you know, maybe his focus was

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Speaker 3: split versus just focus on what you're doing on specials.

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Speaker 3: Now that his defensive snaps have gone down, do you

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Speaker 3: look at that and say, you know what, he's put

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Speaker 3: more time into what he's done kind of perfecting the

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Speaker 3: craft on special teams.

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Speaker 2: That's part of it, definitely, because you know he definitely

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Speaker 2: he stays after practice and he works on his angles

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Speaker 2: to the ball, and you know, as the guys are

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Speaker 2: catching punts. He'll work on different things, but that that happens,

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Speaker 2: you know. You know, I can remember, you know, fifteen

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Speaker 2: years ago in Corey Webster and there was a stretching

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Speaker 2: there during the season where he was a healthy scratch

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Speaker 2: for like four weeks and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: he started playing gunner. You know, the punt team made

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Speaker 2: a couple of plays and it all kind of translated

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Speaker 2: back over the defense and we ended up giving him

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Speaker 2: like twenty million at the end of the year. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that happens, you know, that's just

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Speaker 2: part of that's part of guy's maturation process, and you know,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's different, you know, and Darnay's done a good

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Speaker 2: good job of being diligent and then taking advantage of

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Speaker 2: the opportunities that he's that he's got.

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Speaker 4: When they have a they had a punk block for

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Speaker 4: a touchdown last week. I mean, when you see that,

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Speaker 4: do you look at and say, well, Carolina missed this

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Speaker 4: or does did they do something that repressed you?

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Speaker 2: Uh. They have a very impressive punt rush unit, and

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Speaker 2: they've always had one, you know, as long as Rizzie's

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Speaker 2: been there, and even being in that Dome. You know,

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Speaker 2: it gets loud, and you know they get geared up

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Speaker 2: and and they do a great job of rushing the punter.

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Speaker 2: So and they rush very very hard. But no, I

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Speaker 2: mean it was obviously Carolina had a that was a

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Speaker 2: miscommunication there and you can see it. But not the

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Speaker 2: discredit their punt rush unit by any means. They do it.

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Speaker 2: They do an active job. They play hard in.

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Speaker 3: The physical Is there like a common dread in Rizzie's units?

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Speaker 2: Very aggressive? Yeah, very aggressive? And Rizzie has always been

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Speaker 2: that way. Uh you know for my time when I

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Speaker 2: was with the Jets and he was in Miami, he's

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Speaker 2: always been aggressive. Uh So you know that's we know,

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Speaker 2: that's what we're getting and that's what we're preparing for.

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Speaker 1: Does it coach you that you're you know, it's you

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Speaker 1: guys were two and eight at one point. Has the

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Speaker 1: last three weeks changed anything for you guys? Or is

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Speaker 1: it same same old stuff?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the ebbs and flows of the league.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're not you're not gonna win them all,

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna lose them all, and it's just you

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Speaker 2: have to prepare each week to win the game.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Like and we've had you know, we didn't make plays

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Speaker 2: early earlier in the year, and now we're starting to

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Speaker 2: make more plays. And that's what happens. When you make plays,

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Speaker 2: you know, you start to win games. So I think

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Speaker 2: the guys are focused. Their primary focus has just been

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Speaker 2: one week at a time and focus on the opponent

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Speaker 2: in front of us and just try and win one game.

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Speaker 2: That's it. I think that's what we've done.