WEBVTT - Korean Fan Death

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to short stuff, the very brief stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know. I'm Josh, there's Chuck, there's Jerry. Welcome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a cool one. I remember I remember hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and it may have been when this article

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<v Speaker 1>was written by by our friend Debbie Ronka, but I

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<v Speaker 1>remember hearing about this and it was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard about this odd superstition in Korea and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this can't be true. I know, I keep waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for Crea to be like, guys, we have this onion

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<v Speaker 1>like publication over here that made this up. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a national jokes in the seventies. You guys really took

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<v Speaker 1>it seriously. But no, they seem to have tripled, quadrupled,

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<v Speaker 1>octupled down on this over the years. Yeah. So, just

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<v Speaker 1>very briefly, there is a superstition in Korea that if

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<v Speaker 1>you sleep with a fan on in your room at night,

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<v Speaker 1>you could die. Yeah, just might be old fan might

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<v Speaker 1>even be likely that you'll die. And you call it superstitions.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people call it folklore, other people call it an

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<v Speaker 1>urban legend. In Korea, they call it fact. It's fan

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<v Speaker 1>death right. And not only is it is like the

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<v Speaker 1>the average Korean person believes that there that that you

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<v Speaker 1>will die, like believes this is true. Um, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>makers of fans put warnings about this stuff on their fans.

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<v Speaker 1>They say may cause death. Um if if you leave

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<v Speaker 1>this on overnight, Like the fans and Korea have timers

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<v Speaker 1>on them so that if you fall asleep with it on,

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<v Speaker 1>it will shut off. People sleep with their windows open

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<v Speaker 1>and their fan on in the heat of the summer

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<v Speaker 1>so that they don't die overnight. It's it's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very much a widely held belief in Korea. Yeah, not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, like you said, tripled and quadrupled um. Their

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<v Speaker 1>Consumer Protection Board in two thousand five, two thousand five

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<v Speaker 1>not eighteen issued a warning that said beware summer hazards

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<v Speaker 1>exclamation point. And there were a lot of warnings, but

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<v Speaker 1>one of them had to do with electric fans, and

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<v Speaker 1>it said leave your doors open when using a fan

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<v Speaker 1>while sleeping. You could possibly de hydrate, die of hypothermia,

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<v Speaker 1>or die from decreased oxygen. Which are all their heads

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<v Speaker 1>in their bets there, because there's a lot of explanations

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<v Speaker 1>for this. Yeah. And in that same summer hazards warning

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<v Speaker 1>report or whatever, it attributed twenty deaths between two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>three and two thousand fives. Two fans, not fans landing

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<v Speaker 1>on someone, no, or cutting your your face off or something,

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<v Speaker 1>just fans. Yes, the air blowing from fans killing you

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<v Speaker 1>because you you slept with one blowing on your face overnight, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And there are apparently in Korea. And I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'll notice, we're saying Korea, not South Korea or

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea, just in case they've unified by the time

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<v Speaker 1>this comes out. I wonder if it's it's probably true

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<v Speaker 1>in both though, don't you think I would very much

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<v Speaker 1>assume that although it's entirely possible that it is just

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<v Speaker 1>South Korea because they took away all the fans in

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea. Well, no, I mean Korea was divided in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty. By nineteen fifty, if not sooner. This this

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<v Speaker 1>started in the early nineteen seventies. I actually can point

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<v Speaker 1>to not necessarily the first news report or the first

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<v Speaker 1>day that it happened, but it definitely started in the

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies, which is kind of bizarre because Korea, both

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<v Speaker 1>North and South, had had fans since nineteen hundred, that

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<v Speaker 1>back when there was just one Korea. Toshiba was making

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<v Speaker 1>fans that people had in their homes all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back in nineteen hundred, and from nineteen hundred to nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>no fan deaths, and then all of a sudden, there's

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<v Speaker 1>such a thing as fan deaths. Yeah. And some people

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<v Speaker 1>point to a seventies ad campaign to conserve electricity, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe like the from it and got involved and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if we cook up the story about fan DEAs, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>get people to turn off their fans or put them

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<v Speaker 1>on a timer and we can conserve electricity. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>fully rule that out. Actually I don't either. But what

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<v Speaker 1>you've just said is an urban legend within an urban legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it really it's mind Yeah, because it's not verified

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<v Speaker 1>as facts. It's just people are kind of ascribing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's as made up as fan death really,

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<v Speaker 1>from what I understand you, Um, but it's fascinating and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really rule it out either. Apparently the leader

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<v Speaker 1>during the time of the um oil embargo from OPEC

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<v Speaker 1>that led to this energy crisis was was of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you wouldn't put it past him actually, uh, to

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<v Speaker 1>propagandize this. Yeah, just too. He was very much dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to Korea becoming self sufficient at any cost, and that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a pretty cheap cost, like just tricking everybody

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<v Speaker 1>into thinking fan deaths a thing. Well, and here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing too, what likely is happening? And we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>in a bit like all the real reasons and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of debunk those. But what likely is happening is is

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<v Speaker 1>they find a dead person. It's usually an old person

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<v Speaker 1>who died of natural causes probably or from drinking or

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<v Speaker 1>drugs or something, and a fan is on in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it's a thing, they attribute it to fan death.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's weird to me that they weren't like that, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's mattress death, yeah, or whatever, anything in the room

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<v Speaker 1>right right, it's um, it's ugly shag carpet death. No.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm with you because what what you just said

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<v Speaker 1>is like probably the origin of fan death, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the popularization of it. That somebody walked into a

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<v Speaker 1>room found a dead body sleep in its or dead

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<v Speaker 1>in its bed, and the only thing that was going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the room was the fan blowing on them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's something in their brain just went wrong, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like they saw the fan like a murderer standing

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<v Speaker 1>over a dead body like they just caught it or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, even though they have absolutely nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with one another. Yeah, and here's the deal, our

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<v Speaker 1>very own e p A here in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>says when it's really really hot during a big heat wave.

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<v Speaker 1>They even say, don't direct the flow of a of

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<v Speaker 1>a fan right towards yourself when the temperature is hotter

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<v Speaker 1>than ninety degrees fahrenheit, which is super super hot to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a room like I can't even imagine. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine a room being that hot. And this warning

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<v Speaker 1>is basically it's rooted in the fact that fans in

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<v Speaker 1>an enclosed room when it's that hot, could evaporate evaporate

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<v Speaker 1>moisture from the body faster, which would ostensibly, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>dehydrate you to death. But the thing is checked the

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<v Speaker 1>It's really weird that the e p A is saying

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<v Speaker 1>something like that because that actually lends like a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>bit of legitimacy or credence um to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>theories about fan death. Yeah, you want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and get to the theories, let's do it. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, we're talking fan death. It's a thing. Even

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<v Speaker 1>our own E p A says it might be a

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<v Speaker 1>thing in a roundabout way. Well, yeah, it's if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in an oven, literally in an oven, yeah degrees fahrenh height,

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<v Speaker 1>don't blow a fan on you, and you could look

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<v Speaker 1>like a brisket. At ninety degrees you pretty much could.

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<v Speaker 1>You could cook an egg on your hairy naked chest.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're they're that actually, Like I said, it legitimizes

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<v Speaker 1>one of the theories that they have in Korea for

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<v Speaker 1>for an explanation for fan death, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>is that when it's hot out, you start sweating more,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the fan blowing on you cool you off

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<v Speaker 1>or evaporates the sweat a lot faster than under normal circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>Hence you will dehydrate to death overnight if you sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with a fan on you. That is, that's one theory

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<v Speaker 1>behind fan death or the other one of the others,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love for it's it's craziness, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>fans blades chop up oxygen into carbon dioxide in the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO two and you die from a lack of oxygen

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't breathe. Yeah, that's a good one. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>I also saw that it didn't chop it up into

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<v Speaker 1>into carbon dioxide, because that's just nuts, but that it

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<v Speaker 1>mutilated the oxygen okay, molecules and so therefore there was

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<v Speaker 1>less available when you die. So mutilating is different than

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<v Speaker 1>chopping up way different man. Another one that to a

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer, Well, yeah, it's true, it is true. You

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<v Speaker 1>make a good point. I'm sure there's somebody out there listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many serial killers we have listening to

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<v Speaker 1>our show. I bet at least ten. Well listen, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>stop what you're doing and just go turn yourselves in,

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<v Speaker 1>right or the very least to stop what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I say both because I don't know. If you're a

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer. You might be addicted to this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and and maybe you can't trust yourself to just stop,

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<v Speaker 1>so you need help e g. Being locked up. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this to train. I think people will

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<v Speaker 1>want if they are out there, they want to find

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<v Speaker 1>us now, Okay, well maybe we'll decide to the south. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So um. I saw another one that was you would

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<v Speaker 1>just straight up suffocate, uh and if the fan killed

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<v Speaker 1>you by by basically blowing the air hot air around

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<v Speaker 1>the room and affecting the amount of oxygen available in

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<v Speaker 1>that way, rather than chopping it up and mutilating it,

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<v Speaker 1>it would it would just make less of it available

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<v Speaker 1>recirculating carbon dioxide, and then you would suffocate. That one

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<v Speaker 1>actually is that maybe the closest one to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is is how is they're not built air

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<v Speaker 1>tight but just not and so you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>suffocate in the house even with all the windows and

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<v Speaker 1>doors closed. You you just can't um but to be safe,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that a lot of Korean people

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<v Speaker 1>will do while they're sleeping with fan on or just

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<v Speaker 1>have a fan on the general is crack a window

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<v Speaker 1>or keep the doors open to their room. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of these articles too, says that sometimes in Korea

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<v Speaker 1>they will even crack their windows in their car because

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<v Speaker 1>their air conditioner fan. Yeah, it's a fan. I got

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta start paying attention to that. Now. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start looking around h Mark and just be like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have your window cracked and it's really hot? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the only other explanation I saw was that

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<v Speaker 1>it could possibly cause hypothermia, would make the temperature drop

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<v Speaker 1>solo that you would it would cause hypothermia and then

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<v Speaker 1>you would die, which is which is not true because well,

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of reasons. A you probably want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a fan on if it's in the dead of

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<v Speaker 1>winter anyway, And that's just chuck talking um. But x

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<v Speaker 1>perts say, of course, a fan doesn't even drop the temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>It moves the air around in that air is a

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<v Speaker 1>certain dempature. But it doesn't actually cool it. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big one. Yeah, it just circulates there, it doesn't cool it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you can kind of see where the

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<v Speaker 1>kernel of like um knowledge is is growing into like

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<v Speaker 1>a misshapen thing, right with with the idea that your

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<v Speaker 1>body does cool at night because your metabolism slows. And

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<v Speaker 1>what they're saying is that while you're already right there

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge, and the fan pushes you over the

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<v Speaker 1>edge and you die of hypothermia. Yeah. So, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as doctors are concerning Korea, any time that they give

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<v Speaker 1>a cause of death of fan death, which sometimes doctors

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<v Speaker 1>will actually sign that piece of paper, um, they say

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<v Speaker 1>it's death of afphixiation caused by fan. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung Medical Center, they say that when a fan blows

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<v Speaker 1>on your face, that air currents reduce uh, the atmospheric

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<v Speaker 1>pressure in front of your face by as much as

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<v Speaker 1>could cause a drop in oxygen. But that is a

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<v Speaker 1>big reach if you ask me. Yeah, that's from a

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<v Speaker 1>skeptoid article. And Brian Dunning went on to like calculate

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<v Speaker 1>how much it would take in like UM six and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty kilometer per hour wind to to cause a change

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<v Speaker 1>in air pressure that substantial. So that's not doing it either.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think one of the bigger arguments against fan death,

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<v Speaker 1>I think snows related out like this was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, no one attributes fan like death by fan

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else in the world, and all over the world

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<v Speaker 1>people sleep with fans, and you don't have anything like this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just the mirror fact that it's only in Korea largely

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of says that it's just superstition and folklore

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<v Speaker 1>that was passed down from family to family. But apparently

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<v Speaker 1>Korean person will counter, well, maybe there's something unique about

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<v Speaker 1>Koreans or Korea that makes us susceptible to it. Interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're hanging on to that one for sure. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's fan death. If you want to know more

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