1 00:00:14,996 --> 00:00:33,036 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Once upon a time in Malibu, there was a 2 00:00:33,116 --> 00:00:38,996 Speaker 1: perfect family, the Railers. They were the picture postcard Christmas 3 00:00:39,036 --> 00:00:45,756 Speaker 1: postcard family of two very handsome, intelligent people with four 4 00:00:45,876 --> 00:00:50,796 Speaker 1: kids that were just delightful. They lived a sun kissed 5 00:00:50,796 --> 00:00:53,476 Speaker 1: life in the midst of one of the most hedonistic, 6 00:00:53,676 --> 00:00:59,156 Speaker 1: freewheeling subcultures in America, Malibu in the late seventies and 7 00:00:59,276 --> 00:01:07,956 Speaker 1: early eighties. The seventies became pretty crazy. Rock star Robbie 8 00:01:07,996 --> 00:01:12,596 Speaker 1: Robertson was out there. There was a lot of drugs 9 00:01:12,756 --> 00:01:16,516 Speaker 1: and a lot of everything, and so was movie star 10 00:01:16,716 --> 00:01:20,076 Speaker 1: Ali McGraw, Neil Young. There were most of the Eagles 11 00:01:20,116 --> 00:01:26,436 Speaker 1: that was Peter Paul and Mary and Chris Christofferson. But 12 00:01:26,516 --> 00:01:30,196 Speaker 1: the Railer family was solid, wholesome in a Brady Bunch 13 00:01:30,316 --> 00:01:34,476 Speaker 1: kind of way. Fred the dad, was a widower, Verna 14 00:01:34,676 --> 00:01:38,356 Speaker 1: the mom, was a widow. Between them, they had four kids, 15 00:01:38,396 --> 00:01:43,876 Speaker 1: ages six to eleven. They were living the dream until 16 00:01:43,916 --> 00:01:50,476 Speaker 1: it all turned unfathomably dark. On January second, nineteen eighty one, 17 00:01:50,796 --> 00:01:53,996 Speaker 1: on a sailing trip off the coast of Malibu, something 18 00:01:54,076 --> 00:01:59,556 Speaker 1: tragic happened. We had just gotten passed what they called 19 00:01:59,556 --> 00:02:03,276 Speaker 1: bird rocks, and the dogs started to go over the side. 20 00:02:03,956 --> 00:02:07,116 Speaker 1: Their boat overturned in the frigid water Verna and her 21 00:02:07,156 --> 00:02:10,956 Speaker 1: eight year old son drowned. Fred was the only survivor 22 00:02:11,356 --> 00:02:15,116 Speaker 1: and the only eyewitness. There was little physical evidence, and 23 00:02:15,156 --> 00:02:19,116 Speaker 1: the deaths were initially ruled an accident, but then the 24 00:02:19,156 --> 00:02:23,636 Speaker 1: Malibu rumor mill got going. Did Berna ever tell you 25 00:02:23,996 --> 00:02:27,116 Speaker 1: that she had heard all the rumors, the suspicions that 26 00:02:27,276 --> 00:02:30,236 Speaker 1: various people had about James death. I think that whole 27 00:02:30,276 --> 00:02:33,476 Speaker 1: thing was just a cover up of how he is. 28 00:02:34,396 --> 00:02:37,876 Speaker 1: I think Frederick Rayler's a sociopath. The first thing I 29 00:02:37,916 --> 00:02:40,796 Speaker 1: thought was an accident of my ass. Okay, it just 30 00:02:40,836 --> 00:02:44,396 Speaker 1: couldn't have been. They were scheduled to be cremated, and 31 00:02:44,516 --> 00:02:46,876 Speaker 1: I said, hold and hold everything. You've got to do 32 00:02:46,956 --> 00:02:50,476 Speaker 1: some kind of investigation. I think there was a murder 33 00:02:50,476 --> 00:02:56,716 Speaker 1: committed today. Fred has been in prison for forty years 34 00:02:56,956 --> 00:02:59,516 Speaker 1: for a double homicide. He and the rest of his 35 00:02:59,636 --> 00:03:03,996 Speaker 1: family all insist was a tragic accident. Did the perfect 36 00:03:03,996 --> 00:03:07,276 Speaker 1: family man murder his wife and stepson? Or was an 37 00:03:07,316 --> 00:03:12,236 Speaker 1: innocent person convicted on small town Malibu gossip. I'm Dana 38 00:03:12,316 --> 00:03:16,476 Speaker 1: Goodyear from Western Sound and Pushkin Industries. Lost Hills is 39 00:03:16,516 --> 00:03:20,436 Speaker 1: back with season two. Dead in the Water was the 40 00:03:20,476 --> 00:03:27,796 Speaker 1: Malibu dream worth killing for Lost Hills. Dead in the 41 00:03:27,796 --> 00:03:31,716 Speaker 1: Water launches December first. Wherever you get your podcasts, subscribe 42 00:03:31,756 --> 00:03:33,796 Speaker 1: to pushkin Plus and you can hear the whole season. 43 00:03:33,916 --> 00:03:37,116 Speaker 1: Add free and get early access to the final two episodes. 44 00:03:37,636 --> 00:03:39,956 Speaker 1: Find Pushkin Plus on the Lost Hill Show page in 45 00:03:40,076 --> 00:03:48,556 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or at pushkin dot fm.