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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have made it. The long drive to

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis has happened. We arrived late last night and we

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Speaker 2: are here. We'll get to that in a second, but

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Speaker 2: we are here for NFL Combine coverage. As you can see,

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Speaker 2: we are here live at the Convention Center in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: just as stones throw away from Lucas Oil Stadium, where

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Speaker 2: the probably have to have a pretty good arm to

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Speaker 2: reach the Lucas Oil Stadium from here. But that's where

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Speaker 2: the workouts are going to be. Yeah, a good t

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Speaker 2: shot away from Lucas Oil Stadium. The workouts inside, that's

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Speaker 2: for sure, Yes, you can. Well, that's the beautiful thing here.

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Speaker 2: They've got a tunnel system, Breezeway's causeways you never have

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Speaker 2: And the workouts will start in earnest in just a

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Speaker 2: couple of days, as the players make their way through

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Speaker 2: through the course of the week by position, and we

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Speaker 2: will have General Manager Brandon being on with us. Shortly.

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Speaker 2: He is making his way over here to the Convention

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Speaker 2: Center as we speak. He'll be sitting in this chair

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Speaker 2: between Steve and I and we'll be peppering him with questions.

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Speaker 1: This is this first couple of days. You get the idea.

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Speaker 3: It's largely a social gathering for coaches GMS, and you

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Speaker 3: know how it is, most of these coaches have worked

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Speaker 3: together at some time or another. I think most of

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Speaker 3: the coordinators are in town. Certainly all the head coaches

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Speaker 3: of them are here too, and those guys fraternize at

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Speaker 3: this point. It's fun to see those guys cross paths

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Speaker 3: with guys they've worked with, and it's a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a different vibe here.

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Speaker 1: For about thirty six hours tonight.

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Speaker 3: They're going to start with these meetings, these individual meetings,

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Speaker 3: and then guys are all tied up.

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Speaker 1: They're all back to the grind, that's right.

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Speaker 2: So just so you have an idea on our programming today,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean first out of the shoot here in just

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. He will be followed immediately without interruption

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Speaker 2: by head coach Joe Brady. So we will interview both

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Speaker 2: of those gentlemen back to back before they go up

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Speaker 2: to the podium to address the media at large, as

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Speaker 2: all the general managers and head coaches in the league

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Speaker 2: will be doing that on the other side of the

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Speaker 2: curtains from us here in the Convention Center. We should

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Speaker 2: mention after we went off the air yesterday, there were

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Speaker 2: a couple of transactions made official by the Bills. That

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Speaker 2: was the resigning of restricted free agent offensive lineman Alec

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Speaker 2: Anderson as well as Fadarian Mathis the defensive tackle. So

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Speaker 2: two players signed an under contract for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: sixth season. And I'm hearing that Brandon Bell. Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: he is right behind us here. He comes making his

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Speaker 2: Have a seat.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you, Good to see Brandon.

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Speaker 2: How we doing.

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Speaker 1: I know we're live.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're live. We're doing the old collins Worth slide

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Speaker 2: into the set here. I love it so well done.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in. Yeah, glad to do it.

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Speaker 3: I was just saying that a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: To arrive on Moss, a little bit of a fraternize.

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Speaker 3: You get a chance to say hi to guys, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, kind of just a minute to catch your

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Speaker 3: watching the workouts, a little bit of a little okay,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is everybody's here, everybody in the NFL

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Speaker 4: Uh, that's working.

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Speaker 1: You know as a coach or a play I mean

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Speaker 3: Big of the coaching staf to all the coaching stash

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Speaker 5: Opportunities just to just like you build a football team,

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Speaker 4: Type type deal.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, So I know your time short because

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Speaker 2: right into it. And the general consensus from the draft gurus,

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Speaker 2: so to speak, said the class is said to be

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Speaker 2: Even would you say that's accurate because of all these

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think again, I'm still digging into

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Speaker 5: say it's as top heavy as some years, you know,

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Speaker 5: I would already say the twenty twenty seven is gonna

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Speaker 4: Six class, with just some of those guys that were.

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Speaker 5: Showing as freshmen and then this year they just played

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Speaker 5: There'll be plenty of opportunities. I don't know at this

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Speaker 5: many first round grades, Yeah you have and things like that,

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Speaker 5: but it's it's been a good class. We actually started

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Speaker 2: So maybe some value there, you know, late day too,

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Speaker 5: Yes, I definitely think there will be players Day two

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Speaker 5: whatever it can be. But and listen, we'll we'll find

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Speaker 5: we'll find good players with that first round pick as well.

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Speaker 5: You just don't know if you're technically going to be

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's kind of early to know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you talking about player this this is all

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Speaker 3: F Marian Mathis gives the insight as to what the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Dalton he's one of those ones,

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Speaker 5: we'll we'll knock that out at some point this spring.

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Speaker 5: He you know, his the production that our offense has

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Speaker 5: I don't remember the production in the games, you know,

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Speaker 5: every game, but just him being out there, the asset

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Speaker 5: Our number one thing with Dalton is to see if

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Speaker 5: he's been very intentional about that as well, and so

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Speaker 5: that'll be kind of the plan.

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Speaker 4: But yes, we at some point we'll definitely pick up

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Speaker 4: his fifth year.

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Speaker 2: Knowing Brandon that there were ten head coaching changes this offseason,

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Speaker 2: which tied a record for the most ever in the

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Speaker 2: also going to be scheme changes across the league, including

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Speaker 2: the new scheme they're adopting. Did that lead to a

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Speaker 2: more robust trade market? You think ten coaches changed? I

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Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of changes going on.

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Speaker 5: There's definitely a lot of changes and people just like

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Speaker 5: So it's first off, their assessment.

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Speaker 4: As a player.

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Speaker 5: Do we see player X with the same skill set

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Speaker 5: how would you use them? How do you think they

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Speaker 4: And so those are some of the tough conversations you

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Speaker 5: I like the player, but I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna get you know, I'm just making it up ten

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Speaker 4: I want you to know that.

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Speaker 5: And so those are the hard conversations that we've started

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Speaker 3: And then you felt like you really attacked the defensive

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Speaker 3: Could we see a similar emphasis like that this year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, we're not gonna we didn't go

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Speaker 5: I felt like, you know, but I didn't expect the

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Speaker 5: wouldn't go in. I mean, we're truly in, Joe and

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Speaker 5: I are in lockstep on this. We just want to

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Speaker 5: find good players, separate of the scheme, separate of a

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Speaker 5: whatever dimension it is. We just want to find good

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Speaker 4: And help our football team.

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Speaker 2: You've got some cost prohibitive cap figures, as tends to

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Speaker 1: I say simple.

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Speaker 4: And Dave and continually do that. And so we have

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Speaker 4: Would we love to.

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Speaker 4: But the business sometimes makes you do that.

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Speaker 2: Last one for you, Brandon, and again thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: Defensive leadership on the team has obviously changed. Jim Leonards

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Speaker 5: And that's very refreshing for a personnel staff and to hear,

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Speaker 5: Yes, like you know, but this way, when you get

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Speaker 4: They're both second round picks, whatever it is.

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Speaker 5: We'll get him. Give us good football players, we'll get

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Speaker 3: Twelve months ago, I was telling Brownie there's no way

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Speaker 3: I will say this to my in my defense, I

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 2: Good luck getting your work done here. We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 4: Always appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna stay here live because we're actually gonna

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to swap out your headset there, Brandon,

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Speaker 2: thanks for sliding out, Brandon. We'll get Joe in here.

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Speaker 2: How we doing coach.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, you didn't have the headset on how we doing coach? Good?

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Speaker 6: Look, I think the biggest thing was the staff. It

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Speaker 6: So it was you know, I wanted, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: And I sat in you know, decades ago, I sat

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Speaker 6: so valuable about a guy that coaches wide receivers. But

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Speaker 6: as they also can teach him from a quarterbacks perspective, right,

444
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Speaker 6: And when I talked with him in I'm understanding that

445
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Speaker 6: he wants to ultimately coach quarterbacks, and he wants to

446
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Speaker 6: call plays and he has aspirations. But I remember I

447
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 6: called him right after and I said, hey, look man,

448
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Speaker 6: I just I want you on the staff, you know,

449
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Speaker 6: I know, and he uh, And we have a vision

450
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Speaker 6: for him and the way that he thinks in his mindset,

451
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Speaker 6: his personality. I was so fired up to get him.

452
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Speaker 6: And when I was talking with him, it was more

453
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Speaker 6: of an quarterback interview. And when I go off the phone,

454
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Speaker 6: I was like, I just need you on the staff.

455
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Speaker 6: And he's gonna be a great job.

456
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Speaker 2: So I can see.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you get you get Pete Carmichael coming in

458
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Speaker 3: and Pete's been around for a minute more than a minute,

459
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Speaker 3: right yeah, right, So uh, there is places to see

460
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Speaker 3: where when your staff comes in, if you can be successful,

461
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Speaker 3: particularly with the players, You've got guys like you know,

462
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Speaker 3: Drew Terrell come in and say, you know what, when

463
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Speaker 3: when guys started getting clipped off this staff or guys

464
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Speaker 3: started leap, I got a chance to you know, move

465
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Speaker 3: move around on the offensive side of the ball and

466
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Speaker 3: get some different responsibilities, right yeah.

467
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Speaker 6: And that was, you know, a big selling point. So

468
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Speaker 6: a lot is like, look, I I we haven't done

469
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Speaker 6: anything here, right, we have to we have to go

470
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Speaker 6: have success, we have to go do things. But you

471
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Speaker 6: want this to be a place that coaches want to

472
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Speaker 6: come and work. That's how I find and you want guys,

473
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Speaker 6: you know part of this offense, specifically with Drew's case,

474
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Speaker 6: that you get to see how a great quarterback like

475
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Speaker 6: Josh approaches and works in us being able to put

476
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Speaker 6: together a system around our players, and you know, and

477
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Speaker 6: I thought that that's why it was so important for

478
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Speaker 6: me to not just hire Obviously Pete Carmickle I had

479
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Speaker 6: been with, but I hadn't been with Bo had been

480
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Speaker 6: with Drew, with guys that I didn't know, and so

481
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Speaker 6: that they're able to bring new input and then they

482
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Speaker 6: can see kind of how our offense kind of looks,

483
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Speaker 6: and I think it's going to elevate our offense.

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Speaker 2: Coach, how would you describe the conversations you've had thus

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Speaker 2: far with the personnel department in the early stages of

486
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Speaker 2: this pre draft process. Do you have player types or

487
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Speaker 2: do you just tell them get us good football players

488
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Speaker 2: will figure.

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Speaker 6: Out the rest, like I mean for and yes, we

490
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Speaker 6: have prototypes. If you told me, like, hey, give me

491
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Speaker 6: give me this.

492
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Speaker 1: If you told us.

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Speaker 6: We can have Thurman Thomas and Bruce Smith and Andrey

494
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Speaker 6: you know, we'll take that. I'll take that all the time.

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Speaker 6: But I understand that there's a lot that comes into

496
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Speaker 6: putting together a roster. And but I think, uh, the

497
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Speaker 6: big thing component I wanted out of our coaching staff

498
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Speaker 6: is we're also gonna take what we're given and build

499
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Speaker 6: a system around that. And so we want we want

500
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Speaker 6: the best football players that we can get. And our

501
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Speaker 6: systems might look different year to year, and there's some

502
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Speaker 6: little tweaks, but it's not going to be offensive defense.

503
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Speaker 6: This is what we're doing no matter what we have.

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Speaker 6: And so through personnel, we've kind of got through and

505
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Speaker 6: gone with all the coaches, with the with all the scouts,

506
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Speaker 6: pro in college, this is what we're ideally looking for,

507
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Speaker 6: you know, But don't eliminate anybody, you know, don't be like, hey,

508
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Speaker 6: this guy might be an undersized you know, wide receiver,

509
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Speaker 6: but cool there there's but he might be really elite

510
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Speaker 6: in this one trait. But we're gonna ask him.

511
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Speaker 1: To do that. So let us get to the process.

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Speaker 6: We collaborate, and you know, we'll be able to build

513
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Speaker 6: our team, you know, with that mentality.

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Speaker 3: So you started this offseason and now you're now I

515
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Speaker 3: don't know if you did it before, but now as

516
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Speaker 3: head coach, you're sitting in on defensive meetings. How big

517
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Speaker 3: and upheaval are we looking at on that side of

518
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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, I think I think a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it is.

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Speaker 6: NFL football is very similar, you know, system to system,

522
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Speaker 6: but there's there's a different type of mindset. There's a

523
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Speaker 6: different type of should I say, versatility that we'll play

524
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Speaker 6: with next year. And uh, I think I think the

525
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Speaker 6: big thing about Jim is Jim is you know, and

526
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Speaker 6: I know you guys had a little opportunity to speak

527
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Speaker 6: with him, is he's extremely bright. He's open to so

528
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Speaker 6: many different ideas. He studies a lot of football, and

529
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Speaker 6: he's been around a lot of football, you know, being

530
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Speaker 6: with Rex and Mike Petton all the years that he's

531
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Speaker 6: seen a lot. He knows there's not only one way

532
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Speaker 6: to do it. And so what's been so cool is

533
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Speaker 6: sitting in with him going through all the defensive players

534
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Speaker 6: on a roster and seeing them how they were utilized

535
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Speaker 6: and is like, Okay, can this guy fit in this

536
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Speaker 6: particular role? Hey, what's some ways that we can do

537
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Speaker 6: this because it then allows being to kind of build

538
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Speaker 6: around that. And man, we have a lot of guys

539
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Speaker 6: on our defense that fits the vision that we ultimately

540
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Speaker 6: want to be already, So it's not a hey, we

541
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Speaker 6: just we have to scrap everything and start over. Even

542
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Speaker 6: with our personnel. We have a lot of guys already

543
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Speaker 6: on the show roster there. Look or can do a

544
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Speaker 6: lot of things we're going to ask people to do.

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Speaker 2: You've obviously taken part in pre draft interviews here at

546
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Speaker 2: the Combine before. Sometimes the coordinators are left to take

547
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Speaker 2: on the more active Q and A role. Now in

548
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Speaker 2: the head coaching role, are you just going to be

549
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Speaker 2: more of a fly on the wall or do you

550
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Speaker 2: think you'll insert yourself in part of that Q and

551
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Speaker 2: A discussion and maybe take a lead role with certain prospects?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: You know, I I want I want our coaches, just

554
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Speaker 6: like in the game planning process. I want our coaches.

555
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Speaker 6: I'm not a micromanager, like there's a reason they're there

556
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Speaker 6: and allow them to do it. But there is some

557
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Speaker 6: things that I think is really important questions that I

558
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Speaker 6: try to ask that maybe they're they're not necessarily rehearsed

559
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Speaker 6: on or things that I think is important to me

560
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Speaker 6: that might not strictly be for their specific position. And

561
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Speaker 6: so I don't want to I don't want to overtake

562
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Speaker 6: the formals, but it is important that I I'm involved

563
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Speaker 6: there here in me and I get some of my.

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Speaker 1: Questions the overarching dealt. Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 6: You kind of get a pick up all, like how

566
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Speaker 6: much I want football players at the end of the day, right,

567
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Speaker 6: just give you guys that love football.

568
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Speaker 3: How do you slice through all the coaching these guys

569
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Speaker 3: have been through about how to handle these interviews, and

570
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Speaker 3: that's where you're trying. You kind of come up with

571
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Speaker 3: questions that nobody knows about, right, that they can't prepare for.

572
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Speaker 3: It's hard to do. And let's face it, these guys

573
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Speaker 3: are in a job interview. They're trying to put their

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Speaker 3: best foot forward. So whatever red flags that you may see,

575
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Speaker 3: they're trying to they're trying to paint them black, right,

576
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Speaker 3: So you know they want to. So how do you

577
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Speaker 3: get by that and get through the veneer of these

578
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Speaker 3: guys being on their best behavior?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's tough, right, You got twenty minutes

580
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Speaker 6: and the reality of it is, and that's not to

581
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Speaker 6: diminish the importance of it, but like you got to

582
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Speaker 6: be mindful of like what are you trying to get

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Speaker 6: out of these twenty minutes?

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Speaker 2: Right And I think.

585
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Speaker 6: A lot of guys are hoping that their twenty minutes

586
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Speaker 6: are going to be strictly about maybe their background where

587
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Speaker 6: they're rehearsed on it, where I think it's it's much.

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Speaker 6: It's a better process to let's talk football, you know,

589
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Speaker 6: like I want to put on a play of yours

590
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Speaker 6: and see if I can just put on the still

591
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Speaker 6: view and you know what happened on that play, like

592
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Speaker 6: you know, and like how much is do you remember

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Speaker 6: from your you know, let's talk through some play. Let's

594
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Speaker 6: talk football and not hey, let's get you on the

595
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Speaker 6: board and you rehearse your favorite third down play that

596
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Speaker 6: you've been rehearsing for the last few weeks. You know,

597
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Speaker 6: some guys will draw a play and I'd be like, hey,

598
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Speaker 6: did we see that in the season. They're like no,

599
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Speaker 6: I'm like that was your favorite play, you know. So

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Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest thing right now, is like

601
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Speaker 6: let's just get guys that talk ball think about ball,

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Speaker 6: and at least from my perspective.

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Speaker 2: Coach, thanks for the time, appreciate, good look at and

604
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Speaker 2: your work done here. This week, we had a person

605
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Speaker 2: you might know, Chase Daniel on the show a couple

606
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Speaker 2: of weeks back, and he was talking Pete Carmichael and everything,

607
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Speaker 2: and he might I mean, I'm not saying he's blowing

608
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Speaker 2: the cover off anything, but he's.

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Speaker 1: Like, gosh, you're gonna throw the ball at Tod.

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Speaker 2: He's like all fired up. He was out of control.

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Speaker 1: I love it. He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: He could stop talking about you guys in the scheme

613
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Speaker 2: that they ran down there. He's really excited about what

614
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Speaker 2: he thinks you guys can do, so we're all looking

615
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Speaker 2: forward to it. It's I know he's gonna come up

616
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Speaker 2: fast for you, so we'll let you get to work

617
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Speaker 2: because I know you've got a lot on your plate

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Speaker 2: here between now, heck, between now and OTAs alone.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guy, Good luck this week.

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Speaker 1: Coach.

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Speaker 2: Always good to see it, Thanks for the time as always.

624
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Speaker 2: That's Joe Brady, Bill's head coach joining us. Yeah, you

625
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Speaker 2: can put that down. We'll get you up and out

626
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Speaker 2: of here. And we've gotta take a break because we

627
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Speaker 2: are up against it. Here, we do want to remind

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Speaker 2: you that if you are listening to us on the

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Speaker 2: live stream, we are going to be pre empted for

630
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Speaker 2: the press conferences by both Brandon Bean and Joe Brady,

631
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Speaker 2: who are going to the Ponium now, so our live

632
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Speaker 2: streams will be taking those feeds. So we will be

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Speaker 2: off the stream feeds for a half an hour here,

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Speaker 2: but we will still be on MSGTV after this break,

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Speaker 2: and then obviously coming up in the second hour of

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Speaker 2: the show, we'll have NFL Network Draft analyst Charles Davis

637
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Speaker 2: joining us. So if you're on the live streams and

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Speaker 2: you want to listen to those press conferences, stick around.

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Speaker 1: We will be back for the second.

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Speaker 2: Hour of the show on the live streams with Charles

641
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Speaker 2: Davis here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

643
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Speaker 2: Company Alive from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, and just

644
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Speaker 2: finished with Brandon Bean, Bill's general manager and president of

645
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Speaker 2: football Operations and head coach Joe Brady. We had him

646
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Speaker 2: on back to back here to start our combine coverage,

647
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Speaker 2: and I would say the biggest takeaway from Brandon Bean

648
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Speaker 2: Steve was the talk about Connor McGovern and David Edwards.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he has a sense that the market

650
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: is going to go somewhere where the Bills cannot compete

651
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: because of their cap constraints and chase them in free agency.

652
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Speaker 2: And look, Connor McGovern's agent and David Towards agent are

653
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: both going.

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Speaker 1: To basically do their job, which is.

655
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Speaker 2: Get them to the market where thirty two teams can

656
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Speaker 2: bid on their services and the cost is going to

657
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Speaker 2: go through the roof. The guard market has exploded and

658
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Speaker 2: people are talking about David Edwards getting twenty million dollars

659
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Speaker 2: a year as a twenty eight year old free agent,

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Speaker 2: and I think it could happen.

661
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

662
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: Eight, They're gonna hit the market, they're gonna hit home

663
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: run deals and they're gonna do what's best for their families, okay,

664
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: and take the money. That's so, that's what it's gonna be.

665
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: And you're gonna have you just got Alec Anderson back

666
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 3: in the fold. You've got, uh said said pred Cedric

667
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: van prank Granger. And you've got the guys you've got

668
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: in the room. You know, Vandermark who's a tackle grable

669
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: who's a tackle. But they'll go out and find a guy.

670
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: They'll go in the free agent market. But I think

671
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: the closer you get to it, and it's easy to

672
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: we're all jaded by, you know, the love and respect

673
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: we have for each other inside the locker room with

674
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: all our guys and all that and stuff. Yeah, it's

675
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: gonna be great. He's gonna want to come back, said.

676
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: The guy may want to come back here, but he's

677
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: not going to come back here when it cost him

678
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: ten million dollars to do it. That's the difference between

679
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: a ten million and a twenty million dollar contract. And

680
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 3: David Edwards is gonna make between eighteen and twenty two million.

681
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean, that's it. So you gotta have you gotta

682
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: have somebody for that spot. That's all there is to it.

683
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: Now.

684
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: Connor McGovern's same thing, and they're not as expensive, but

685
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: Connor McGovern's a key piece of that. It may be

686
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: the exact same thing with him.

687
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: So well, I think the problem there is the Baltimore Ravens,

688
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: the general manager Eric Thecosta, just said at the podium

689
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: today that they have made a market setting offer to

690
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: Tyler Linderbaum, their free agent center to be. If that

691
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: deal goes through and it's giant money, it's only going

692
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: to drive the market price up for Connor mcgoverney. He

693
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: might not make Linderbaum money, but he's not going to

694
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: be that far behind. And well, you know that's a

695
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: guy that people are projecting is going to average. Let

696
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: me see, it's going to probably average a contract upwards

697
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: of eleven million dollars.

698
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: But here so for sure, for sure at the center

699
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: spot Yeah.

700
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: The market's going no place but up. The cap is

701
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: going no place but up. Salaries are going no place

702
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: but up. And unless unless you sign these guys before

703
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: they have a chance to hit free agency, like during

704
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: the season, he sign him to an extension and all that,

705
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: and the guys, for whatever reason he wants to do it,

706
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: they're going to hit the open market.

707
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: If they hit the open.

708
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: Market, the team that's that has gotten him to that

709
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: point has no shot at it.

710
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Spot Track has him projected at sixteen point two million

711
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: for average annual value of a new contract. Connor McGovern

712
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: We should tell you that Brandon Being told us live

713
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: on the air here on One Bill's Live that they

714
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: did restructure the contract of Spencer Brown that was sent

715
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: into the league yesterday, so that is done and it's

716
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: going to create some cap space. We'll get the numbers

717
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: on that in short order, but that is news as

718
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: the Bills try to get themselves cap compliant by the

719
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: start of the new league year, which as we know

720
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: is March eleventh, so they're already working towards that, and

721
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown is the latest move in that regard. We

722
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: mentioned the contract of Curtis Samuel. That could be a

723
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: guy that gets clipped from the roster entirely after two

724
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: largely unproductive seasons.

725
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: We also have Dawson Knox who's.

726
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: Got a fat cap number that's probably gonna need to

727
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: be addressed for the soon to be twenty nine year

728
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: old tight end Deon Dawkins contract could be addressed in

729
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: the form of a restructure or an extension. So there

730
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: are a lot of names at the high end of

731
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: the Bills' salary cap structure that are gonna have to

732
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: be addressed in some form or fashion to give the

733
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: team some cap relief before they get to the league year.

734
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: And that's just to get cap compliant, forget about doing

735
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: business and free agency.

736
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: Right and that's so there's a lot of bookkeeping going on,

737
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: and you know, the Bills will get their bookkeeping doing.

738
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: They've got an easier job of it this year than

739
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: they did last year. Last year it was largely going

740
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: to be a reset year for the cap. I mean

741
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: they were they had to. They had some hoops to

742
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: jump through. This year, not so much, just some restructuring.

743
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: And if they feel the need to release some guys,

744
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: they can do that as well. But it's it's not

745
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: going to be hard for them to get under the cap. Now,

746
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: getting under the cap far enough to sign some free agents, yeah,

747
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: that's a different matter that that might take some space

748
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: that they that might take some more gymnastics to get through.

749
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: They may have to really make it a concerted effort,

750
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: and it may be along the lines that we couldn't

751
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: believe it when they signed Von Miller, you know, four

752
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: or five years ago, because of the numbers he got.

753
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: But they made it work.

754
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think we could be I was hoping

755
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: this offseason that the Bills would be able to keep

756
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: one of the two McGovern or Edwards based on the

757
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: way that Brandon Bean framed it, I'm wondering if they

758
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: can get either of them back. Now, look that is

759
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: why you have groomed players like Alec Anderson and Cedric

760
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: Van pran Grainger in the pipeline the last two to

761
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: three years. This is gonna be Anderson's fourth season and

762
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: a Bill's uniform coming up. He's gonna probably have to

763
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: compete for a starting job now, same with Cedric Van

764
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: pran Granger, who is probably a center only so is

765
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: Alec Anderson, you know, in the mix to start at

766
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: left guard or at center. I think that's question number one.

767
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Assuming Edwards and mcgovernor out the door, and what about

768
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: Van prant and then secondarily Steve. This team's probably got

769
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: a draft an interior offensive alignment to refortify the ranks.

770
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: Right, or get one in free agency veteran free agent

771
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: at a bargain price. Now you've got a guy, You've

772
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: got guys around there.

773
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: How much money do you want to spend? You know

774
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: you can't spend twenty million a year on a guy

775
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: like David Edwards who's twenty eight years old and still

776
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 2: has four or five good years left. What about bringing

777
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller back at ten million a year to play

778
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: left guard for you at age thirty one? Because his

779
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: price tag is probably going to be half of that

780
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 2: because he's an older player, So there will be options

781
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: on the free agent market. But I think the Bills

782
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: might be at a point in time where they have

783
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: to turn the page on their offensive line. And I

784
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: know people are talking about Dion Dawkins and he's thirty

785
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: two or thirty one, whatever he is, and you may

786
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: have to start thinking about getting a replacement there. Well,

787
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: you might have guys in the pipeline, whether that's Tyland

788
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: Grabil who you think could be a starting left tackle

789
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: in another year or so. And then what happens with

790
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Ryan vander Mark, you restricted free agent? Does he get

791
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: tender to qualifying offer to stay here another year? You know,

792
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown is still a young player who they just restructured.

793
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: So on the edges, you seem to be okay for now.

794
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: But I think they've come to the realization that the

795
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: cost is too prohibitive. They have to turn the page

796
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: on the interior of their own line and trust the

797
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: young players they've been grooming.

798
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: The last couple of years, right, and they can they

799
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: can always throw in you know, they're gonna have some

800
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: guys they can sort through, guys with some gifts that

801
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: maybe they can get to develop. You know, Tyland Grable

802
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: has been in the building for a long time. And

803
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: and and there's another the pathways guy who's the big

804
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 3: six seven tackle that the Bills haven't Oh.

805
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis Clayton.

806
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Travis Clayton. He's been groomed here the last room here

807
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: for the last few years.

808
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna it's it's time for him, yep, to be

809
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: on the roster, to be on the practice squad. High,

810
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: high level of athlete. Big dude has had trouble staying healthy,

811
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: so we'll see. But they've kept him around for a reason.

812
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: He has got some real problems. But that's the kind

813
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: of they're gonna have guys to put out there. And

814
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: and I don't want to I don't want.

815
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: To throw up the white flag.

816
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: But this offensive line has been solid and unmoving for

817
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: two straight years.

818
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: Nobody missed again.

819
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: I think Spencer missed a game in twenty four and

820
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: he missed a game in twenty five. Both those games

821
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 3: were wins. And you know that the line has been solid.

822
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 3: You can't count on that like everybody else because nobody

823
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 3: else can. So I don't want to throw the white

824
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: flag up. I said, Listen, the offensive line is going

825
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: to take care of itself. They've got enough guys in there,

826
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: enough quality guys. If they can just stay on two

827
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: good wheels, all of them, they're gonna be fine.

828
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: Up front. I'm not.

829
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, shooting up an emergency flare right

830
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: because of the offensive line, because of David Edwards and

831
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: Connor McGovern. Great players, really good players, had a couple

832
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: of had a really good stretch here with the Bills.

833
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: But I'm there's guys out there that can fill those

834
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: spots and fill them admirably. And there's every chance you

835
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: could you could even get an upgrade in some respects

836
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: in these guys games. We'll see. Yeah, the off I've

837
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: said it though, change in everything.

838
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Don't change.

839
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: Don't change everything about the offense. Your defense is going

840
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: through enough of it. This offense has to hum when

841
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: they kick it off in the fall. It has to hum,

842
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: in my opinion.

843
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that could be a heavier lift if you

844
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: have Sue new Lineman in the mix. Yeah, and even

845
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: guys that have been here and know the system, you

846
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

847
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably a vet free.

848
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: Agent ad in there for o line. Sure, I mean,

849
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller would make a lot of sense at age

850
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: thirty one, probably get him at a little bit more

851
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: of a discount.

852
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Because of his age.

853
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, it might very well be go time for

854
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Alec Anderson, maybe even for Cedric Van Praying Granger. There's

855
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: probably a draft pick in the mix too, but probably

856
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: later in the draft. So it's it's eye opening. I

857
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: think we all saw what could be coming in my estimation.

858
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: Brandon being confirmed, it's a very very very real possibility

859
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: that both are out.

860
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: The door, right, and it is you know Whyatt Teller

861
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: is this you know, seven year vet he was making

862
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: fourteen point two with Cleveland. You go down the James

863
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: Daniels from Miami as an eight year vet. He's twenty

864
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: eight years old. Got these are these are interior offensive

865
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: linemen and most people don't know who these guys are.

866
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: Elijah Vera Tucker from the Jets. He's twenty not even

867
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old.

868
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: That guy's more injured than anybody though.

869
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: Right, he's had troubles staying healthy. Do the Bills? Are

870
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: the Bills scared off by that? Because when the guy

871
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: plays not bad? Right, There's there's a ton of players

872
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: on the list Wyatt Teller at the top, Braden Smith,

873
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: who's a right tackle from Indianapolis. He's a tackle, though

874
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: he can also play guard obviously, Joel Botonio, Kevin Zeitler

875
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: from Tennessee. But those guys are weigh in their mid thirties. Yeah,

876
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: with the exception, with the exception.

877
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: Of thirty one, don't mind.

878
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: I think older guy like out of Dallas. Get another

879
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: Dallas guy, which is where Connor McGovern came from. He's

880
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: a guard, twenty seven years old, five years in the

881
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: league from Dallas.

882
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: Robert Jones. Yeah, just go down the list.

883
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know, see why and if there's

884
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: a reason why he's been on two teams in five

885
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: years rather than just one, let's see it. Let's hear it,

886
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: you know. Or maybe his contract is used up and

887
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: it's time from the move. And I'm there's gonna be

888
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: guys who can make it work, particularly with Dion Dawkins

889
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: on their outside at left guard. It is not it's

890
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: hard to get into a positional emergency on your offensive

891
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: line because those guys, while it does sound very specialized,

892
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: most most positions are very specialized.

893
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: There is a lot of overlap on offensive line play.

894
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: So you can move a guy from the right to

895
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: the left, and the left to the right, and from

896
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: the guard to the tackle and the tackle to the

897
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: other tackle. The only thing that requires a unique and

898
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: unique and singular skill is snap in the football. So

899
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 3: the rest of that, these guys are pretty much well

900
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: they feel like, and coaches coach them so that they

901
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: are interchangeable. Doesn't always work that way, but they that's

902
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: how they coach these guys, so we'll see. I'm not

903
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: even after talking to Brandon being I think you and

904
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: I both get the same vibe. Man, He's he's kind

905
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: of like he was thanking those guys for being a

906
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: part of the team, right.

907
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: It's almost like he was saying goodbye.

908
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: Right, And and I get it because a fawn farewell,

909
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: no question, because they.

910
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: Just can't do it. So I'm not.

911
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't scare me. It's bums me out because they

912
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: were good players. It would have been nice to having

913
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: young guys. Let's go, but all right, let's let's turn

914
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: the page. Yeah, turn the page, because you knew it

915
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: was coming at some point, and like I just have

916
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: been saying, it's not a positional emergency when you lose

917
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: an interior offensive lineman. It's not great. You love the

918
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: you love the great ones, but there's there's a lot

919
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: of guys who can stop gap and play and get

920
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: in there and fill that in for you and do

921
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: a pretty good job.

922
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

923
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's an easy job, but you once

924
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: you get the physical traits, the rest the rest.

925
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: Of his attitude. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, it's.

926
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: Gonna be it's gonna be a very I think the

927
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: offseason just got a little bit more interesting.

928
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.

929
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: I think that if talking to brand at the top

930
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: of the show, like we did, I think that's the

931
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: thing that I took away with He just it just

932
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: seems like they're resigned to the fact that that those

933
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: guys are gonna have to go.

934
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: We will take a break here, but we have some

935
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: other things to discuss. We have to go around the

936
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: NFL because there's news being made here today at the

937
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: NFL Combine around the league. And also we'll give you

938
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: some thoughts on some of what Joe Brady said, particularly

939
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: about his conversations with the personnel department and the kinds

940
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: of players he's looking for not only for his offense

941
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: but for his defense.

942
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: As well.

943
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: We'll get to that when we get back here on

944
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. How many Alive from the NFL Combine,

945
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: and then he presented buy a lot of helpers back

946
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: here at the Combine, Indianapolis, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, One

947
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: Bill's Live is your program of choice. Thanks for joining us.

948
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: And wanted to get into some of the comments made

949
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: by Joe Brady because we wanted to get a sense

950
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: from him, and this is probably why our line of

951
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: questioning went this way as to how his interactions worked

952
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: with the personnel department in terms of the kinds of

953
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: players he is looking for now. He did admit, we

954
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: have types that we gravitate toward, but the bottom line

955
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: is just get as good football players and we'll build

956
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: our scheme around them.

957
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: I was telling you this the other day.

958
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: Most of those coaches get in the room and they're like,

959
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: I can coach that guy. They want guys they can coach.

960
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: They want guys who can who well, first of all,

961
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: they can trust, who do what they're told and more

962
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: and give you more than what you're asking for. Because

963
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: they understand what you're trying to get. They they are

964
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: willing to go off the page of the playbook at

965
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: certain moments because they're gonna make a play. Guys who

966
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: understand the big picture. Smart guys are coachable, and most

967
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 3: coaches will believe that if you give them the right players,

968
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna get whatever they need out of those guys.

969
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: Whether they're the right type or not, whether they have

970
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 3: the physical traits or not, they're gonna figure it out.

971
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: So you get them the best football talking about you

972
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: talk to coaches all the time and we all say it,

973
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: give me good football players, and it's a well.

974
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: That means yeah, but that usually means smart, tough, dependable,

975
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: right types of guys that and you heard coach Brady

976
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: say it, also give me guys that love football, because

977
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: that's who he is. I mean, that guy gets to

978
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: the office at four am every day because he can't sleep.

979
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: He's thinking of another idea, another scheme, another concept that

980
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: he wants to try to put up on the board,

981
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: and he's awake at night, so he just goes into

982
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: the office at four to get on the board in

983
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: his office.

984
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: Coaches are like that, and I think most people are

985
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 3: starting to if they're not. If they follow the league closely,

986
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: they're aware of what I'm going to be about to say,

987
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: and if they don't, he might be surprised by giving

988
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: the fact that we're talking about guys making twenty million

989
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: dollars a year. A lot of guys play for the

990
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: money and they don't care about football, and that's a

991
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: problem for a lot of teams.

992
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: I know. It's like, well, of course they're playing for

993
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: the money.

994
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but there's a lot of guys who would

995
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: play even if it was for free. And those are

996
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: the guys you really want as a coaching staff, and

997
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: those are the guys you actually overpay for.

998
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Right, It's ironic.

999
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: If you're a guy who doesn't care about the money,

1000
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: you're the guy they want to pay the most because

1001
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: they want more guys like you.

1002
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: And sometimes those guys can pull along other guys. They

1003
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: elevate the room, They raise the floor. Guys like Josh,

1004
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: they raise the floor. You know. The guys who do play.

1005
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: For the money and are just kind of in it

1006
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: for the lifestyle and for what it gives them, they

1007
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: demand more of themselves when they're around guys like that.

1008
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: So it's one of the main elements towards those personal

1009
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: interviews that you hear so much about these coaches and

1010
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 3: these scouts, gms, even owners in some cases, they want

1011
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: to know what makes the guy tick. It's one of

1012
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: the things that this culture has been good at in Buffalo.

1013
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 3: They find out what makes these guys ticks and they

1014
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: kind of tweak those buttons to get them to thrive.

1015
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: And when you get a bunch of guys that are

1016
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: thriving in the environment, you have pretty good football team.

1017
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: You get more out of your roster. That's something that

1018
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: they're all.

1019
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: Trying to do and it's going to be important in

1020
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: these interviews and all that for them to find guys

1021
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: and make sure they don't get any guys that are

1022
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: just going through the motions so they can get the paycheck.

1023
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: Let's quickly go around the NFL presented by a lot

1024
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: of health because there is news happening here at the Combine.

1025
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: Falcons New Gmy and Cunningham confirmed this morning the quarterback

1026
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins will be released the first day of the

1027
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: new league year. Atlanta has Michael Pennix, as we know,

1028
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: but he tore his acl last November, so it's a

1029
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: wait and see on his readiness for training camp this summer.

1030
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: Cousins had a guarantee in his contract effective March fourteenth.

1031
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: I believe it was, so they're gonna clip him before

1032
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: that and he'll be free to be signed. Do you

1033
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: think he goes back to Minnesota Steve.

1034
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1035
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1036
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: I know this for one hundred percent fact. They're having

1037
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: conversations about it in Minnesota. Yeah, somebody's picking up told

1038
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: saying what about it? What are we gonna do? Because

1039
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 3: JJ's not the guy.

1040
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: You think they're done with JJ. I don't know if

1041
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: they're done done, but they certainly having doubts.

1042
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: They don't need to be done done with him because

1043
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: he's cheap, he's a rookie on a rookie.

1044
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: They can just wait and that it'll be his coming up.

1045
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: He'll be his third year coming up.

1046
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't need to be done with him, but

1047
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: bringing cousins back, JJ's already familiar with him.

1048
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: They played together for a year.

1049
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: I yes, I would say that is definitely on the menu,

1050
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: but it's only one item and there are other entrees,

1051
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 3: that's right.

1052
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni's comments about AJ Brown has

1053
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: only fueled speculation that the veteran receiver could be on

1054
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: another roster for the start of the twenty sixth season

1055
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: here at the NFL Combine, Sirianni said his expectation is

1056
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: AJ Brown wants to be in Philadelphia and that he

1057
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: wants him on the Eagles roster, But when asked if

1058
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: he can guarantee Brown will be on the roster come

1059
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: the fall, Sirianni said, quote, will Aj be here next season?

1060
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: I think we're still in a spot like I can't

1061
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: guarantee how anything is going to play out into next season.

1062
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'm going to be the coach next season,

1063
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: but you can't guarantee anything passed to tomorrow. End quote.

1064
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: And while Siriani is not wrong, it's not helping the

1065
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: conversation in Philly right now. If the Eagles were to

1066
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: trade AJ Brown Steve prior to June first, which is

1067
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: presumably when it would happen, because no other team wants

1068
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: to really wait that long unless it's agreed upon and written,

1069
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: you know, as a post June first transaction, it could

1070
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: be a cap hit of more than forty three and

1071
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: a half million dollars. If they are able to designate

1072
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: it a post June first trade, then it would be

1073
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: only a sixteen million dollar cap hit and save them

1074
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 2: just over seven million on the cap. I think they

1075
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: go one more year with him, one more year. They

1076
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: might just the out in the contract is next year.

1077
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: He's he's a great player, but he is like a

1078
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: lot of other great players. He does not elevate anybody else,

1079
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: and he expects to be elevated by the quarterback.

1080
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: And by a quarterback that doesn't do that enough.

1081
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 3: His quarterback, Jalen Hurts, is just okay. And their offense

1082
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: is good. Sa Quon's a stud. Their offensive line works well.

1083
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: But as a wide receiver, you need to be elevated

1084
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: by the offense and the offensive play callers in the quarterback,

1085
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: and aj has not gotten that from them, and he's

1086
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 3: not happy about it. Also had a share of drops

1087
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: last year too' Well that's what happens when you start

1088
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: to disengagementally, that's the first thing that starts having me start,

1089
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: oh I am getting the ball this time, you know,

1090
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: And it's you know, you just you don't concentrate as

1091
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: hard when you're not happy.

1092
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: And that's where he has been.

1093
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Speaker 3: I I with as your assertion that you think he'll

1094
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: give him, they'll give him one more year, I would

1095
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: tend to lean towards.

1096
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: That as well. Run it back, try it one more time.

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00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: Try it, give him the ball a little more. Their

1098
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: offense wasn't as good when they didn't quite. Frankly, I

1099
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: think he might be right, Brad. I think it might

1100
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 3: be time to just give him another season quickly.

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00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: Steelers jm Omar Khan has been in communication with free

1102
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: agent quarterback Aaron Rodgers and said there's nothing new on

1103
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 2: that front, but he does expect a decision much sooner

1104
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: this offseason as to whether Rodgers is going to continue

1105
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: his career or retire. Last year, if you remember, he

1106
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: didn't sign with the Steelers until middle of June. Raiders

1107
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: GM John spy Tech said he expects Max Crosby to

1108
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: be with the Raiders. He carries a thirty five million

1109
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: dollar cap hit this season. We already talked about the

1110
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: Ravens and Tyler Linderbaum. He supposedly has a market setting

1111
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: offer that he can decide whether to sign or not.

1112
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: Dolphins GM John Eric Sullivan said everything is on the

1113
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: table with Tua, which would mean a trade as a possibility,

1114
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: but good luck moving that guy. And then another international

1115
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: game has been assigned to an NFC club as a

1116
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: home game. Lion's going to be in the Munich game,

1117
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: Bills play the Lions, but the Bills play the Lions

1118
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: at home in Orchard Park, so they do not qualify

1119
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: for that game. They are not going to play in

1120
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: that Munich game.

1121
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: The Bills might escape an international game this year.

1122
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then finally, the Jets GM Darren Moogie just

1123
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: said that if they can't get a contract extension done

1124
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: with Breese Hall, he will be franchise tagged. Gotta take

1125
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: a break when we come back. Our number two begins

1126
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: with NFL Network draft analyst Charles Davis. He joins us

1127
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: next here all one Bills Live presented by Kladda Hills.

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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Calllida. Help.

1129
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on One

1130
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker Company alive from the

1131
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: NFL Combine in Indianapolis and sitting in between us right now.

1132
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: You know him from the NFL on CBS, but he's

1133
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: got his NFL Network hat on this week as he

1134
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: is a draft analyst for the net. We're gonna be

1135
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: watching all the workouts this week. Davis joins us. He's

1136
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: got a new Paul to because that's where he's from.

1137
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: But go huge.

1138
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Charles, I want to begin here. I want

1139
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: to start in your wheelhouse, the cornerback position, because it's

1140
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: considered to be a good corner class, particularly nickel corners.

1141
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm hearing. I know there's two of your own Tennessee

1142
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: boys probably in the top five amongst the corners with

1143
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: McCoy and Hood. But what about I need your insight

1144
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: on the nickel position and how its responsibilities are morphing

1145
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: and changing in the NFL because they played almost ninety

1146
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: five percent of the snaps as little as five years ago,

1147
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: and then the running game has re emerged in the

1148
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: league and now these hundred and ninety pound guys are

1149
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: having to bear up against guards and they're not even

1150
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: allowed to cut them anymore. That's not right, So right,

1151
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: So what type of has the tie? Has the prototype

1152
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: for the nickel position changed where maybe you have to

1153
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: be a little sturdier and closer to two hundred pounds

1154
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: than maybe a one to eighty five to one to

1155
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: ninety pound guy. I know ten pounds may not make

1156
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: a difference. It's all about want to But you know

1157
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: what I'm getting at now, they become targets of opposing

1158
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: running games. No, I think you're exactly right about it, Chris.

1159
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 7: And let's face it, the nickel position, Steve, you remember

1160
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 7: the nickel position looked a lot like you like when

1161
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 7: you were going if that guy went inside to go cover, right,

1162
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 7: because because he needed to be able to keep up

1163
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 7: with them, right, he needed to be shifty and be

1164
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 7: able to move.

1165
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: It's interesting.

1166
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 7: The last time I came to see you guys for

1167
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 7: a ballgame, I flew in with the one of the

1168
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 7: assistant general man, the Boston Saber, I mean the Buffalo Savers,

1169
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 7: and had a quick discussion about how the hockey player

1170
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 7: has morphed and changed. Because you know, when we were kids, right,

1171
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 7: they were all pocket rockets, right, shifty, moving, the whole

1172
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 7: thing toughest you all get out.

1173
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: But then New York Glenn Dross has started to hit

1174
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: the scene.

1175
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 7: And now you get on an elevator with a hockey team,

1176
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 7: you think it's a bunch of outside linebackers and tight

1177
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 7: ends like these are some big, big people. The same

1178
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 7: thing is kind of happening with the nickel position. To

1179
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 7: your point, because of how the game has changed in

1180
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 7: terms of people are trying to get back to running

1181
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 7: the football because we had gone with all these little people.

1182
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 7: And look, Buffalo is one of the leaders of it.

1183
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 7: Four two, five come come you know Hecker high Water right.

1184
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 7: Five defensive backs were going to play every down, the

1185
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 7: whole deal. And so people are starting to answer with

1186
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 7: I'm going bigger, extra offensive linemen, extra tight end full backs.

1187
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: Let's beat them up and see what we can do.

1188
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 7: So where we getting to Derwin James, Los Angeles Chargers,

1189
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 7: Nicki min Worrie, Seattle Seahawks Monster, Kyle Hamilton or Baltimore

1190
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 7: Ravens Monster. Now the problem is, aren't many of them?

1191
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 7: How do you find that?

1192
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: And sometimes teams have countered with three safeties on the

1193
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: field instead, and the Bills, actually, I know their defensive

1194
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: scheme is changing now, but last year they found a

1195
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: lot of success with that three three five Nickel package

1196
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: that they ran. I mean, that's a scheme change to

1197
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: address a shortage. But I heard Nickel class is good.

1198
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe there's maybe Because Taron Johnson

1199
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: turns thirty this year and probably want to get a guy.

1200
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: You probably want to get a guy in the pipeline

1201
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: to kind of learn behind him for a year. You

1202
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: do you got any Nichols that you really like that

1203
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: you think can bear up in the run front.

1204
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you something, Hood from Tennessee. If

1205
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 7: you put him in the nickel spot, he'll bear out

1206
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 7: five because he is an aggressive, good tackler. He is

1207
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 7: not just simply that cover guy. All right, He could

1208
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 7: absolutely do that. The hard part is finding that guy.

1209
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 7: Is Steve and I are talking about that looks like

1210
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 7: these other guys.

1211
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: Well, the one.

1212
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 7: Safety that kind of looks like that is the kid

1213
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 7: out of out of Toledo.

1214
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: What's his name, Oh McNeil Warren, Neil Warren. Yeah, he

1215
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: looks the part. But he's even Warrior's size.

1216
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 7: He's even Warrior's size. I don't think he's as fast

1217
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 7: even Worri is crazy fast.

1218
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: But he hasn't.

1219
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 7: They haven't asked him to play that way. They've asked

1220
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 7: to be much more of a high safety. But I

1221
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 7: do think you can drop in the box and handle

1222
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 7: things like that. But if you're gonna get outside of

1223
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 7: that first round and get down into look Avionterrell from

1224
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 7: from Clemson. Ajterrell's brother, he can go ahead and drop

1225
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 7: in there and play it. I had to write down

1226
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 7: these notes because me and my brain is gonna be

1227
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 7: tough to get along. The funny part is Malik Muhammad

1228
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 7: from Texas looks like your traditional Nickel feisty is all

1229
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 7: get out, tough against the run. But size wise is right,

1230
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 7: not as big as maybe what we're looking for. But

1231
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 7: they are out there, and look, the prototypical Nickel is

1232
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 7: the kid out Indiana pons.

1233
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: Right, tiny, the smallest guy in the class. Tiny, tiny,

1234
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: but let me tell he's up. It's like it's like

1235
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: watching Marcus Jones.

1236
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: Everything, and I get it too, because there are guys.

1237
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm I played for a half

1238
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: minute a little tiny and it's you can do it.

1239
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,959
Speaker 3: But I was covering like one out of every five

1240
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: plays you played. You played Nickel, You're in there two

1241
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: out of every five plays. And that difference is and

1242
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: here comes durability, and here comes that polar.

1243
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's durability.

1244
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: You can play and the attitude and you take guys

1245
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 3: on all you want, but mass time's velocity equals force

1246
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: and it's hard to stand up to it.

1247
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: I love you brought I love how you brought that up.

1248
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 7: Let me just ask you this Steve, because you guys

1249
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 7: have covered this for so long now. When the Colts

1250
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 7: won the Super Bowl with Peyton Manning and that crew,

1251
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 7: all right, obviously they were great everywhere they looked, but

1252
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 7: you remember that lull they went through during the season

1253
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 7: when Jacksonville ran the ball and ran for three seventy seven.

1254
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: The whole deal. What was the difference again, Bob said.

1255
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: Bob sand Bob Sanders was a great player, but he

1256
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: couldn't stay on the field all because he tried to

1257
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: play like he was six three did I did?

1258
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: I did meetings with him. You know, dude, you're not

1259
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: very big.

1260
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: And he threw his body around like he was sitting five.

1261
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Is all of that, but man, the attitude's great. Love it.

1262
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: They're scrappy.

1263
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: He just didn't last.

1264
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: But they're the nail.

1265
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 7: They're nail the hammer, right, and he got him through

1266
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 7: a Super Bowl, right because he made it back for

1267
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 7: the playoffs and he was a difference, but his body

1268
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 7: just couldn't hold you.

1269
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: There are guys out there, and you know, I was

1270
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: thinking about this walking over to day, guys who making

1271
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: the NFL, with the guys who figure it out what

1272
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: they got physically, what they need if they got to

1273
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: have the right attitude. You gotta figure it out for

1274
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: You're got to figure it out in your body. I

1275
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: got to figure it out in my body, my gifts,

1276
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 3: and I gotta figure out in the attitude or the

1277
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 3: environment that I'm in on this team, right, and how

1278
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: long can I last? So all these guys have got

1279
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: a place where they can figure it out. And who

1280
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: figures it out the best is the great player. Everybody's

1281
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: got something they bring to the tapes. You do how

1282
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: do you find out who's going to figure it out?

1283
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: Right?

1284
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 7: You think that you do through the way that through

1285
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 7: conventional means. You meet with them, you spend time, you

1286
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 7: call people, you do all these things.

1287
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: Right, and you do as much homework as possible, and.

1288
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 7: Then you get them and it might not be exactly

1289
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 7: what you thought it was. Something they change, something was

1290
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 7: different here, something was that. Not all the time, sometimes

1291
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 7: it's better than what you expected.

1292
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: Right, But you.

1293
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: Can do all the homework you want.

1294
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 7: Think of the millions of dollars to spend on scotting

1295
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 7: and evaluating each year. And what would you say is

1296
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 7: a good hit rate for a good GM three hundred? Yeah,

1297
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 7: I mean it's like playing baseball, right, Yeah, if you

1298
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 7: hit four hundred, you're yeah, four hundred, hit seven draft

1299
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 7: picks a year.

1300
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: You're trying to hit two.

1301
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 7: You're trying to hit two, right, three, and if you

1302
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 7: have a fourth, right, your executive of the year.

1303
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: So it's a tough deal.

1304
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: And we executive the next year.

1305
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: You're right. The next year, you're exactly right.

1306
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 7: You probe me somebody else is your next year job.

1307
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 7: But it's so true, right, because that's what you're building on.

1308
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 7: They put everything into it, trying to learn these kids,

1309
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 7: and you do the best you can. And Steve would

1310
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 7: tell you, all of a sudden, you look up and

1311
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 7: that guy's not there, you know, the guy you thought

1312
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 7: it was.

1313
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: And I just leave it with this.

1314
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 7: You remember Seattle Seahawks trying to get quarterback right a

1315
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 7: bunch of years ago, Charlie Whitehurst, and and then they

1316
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 7: signed Matt Flynn off that one great game that he

1317
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 7: had against the Detroit Lions, and then.

1318
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: He drafted Russell Wilson in the third round. I've always

1319
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: wanted to know.

1320
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 7: The conversation Pete Carroll, John Schneider with the late great

1321
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 7: Paul Allen who owned the team. Mister Allen, we gotta

1322
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 7: signed Matt Flinn. We needed to be our quarterback. Free

1323
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 7: agent contract, big money, yes, sir, good, go ahead and

1324
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 7: do it.

1325
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: They get the camp. Mister Allen, mister the third round

1326
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: guy is better, and well, I'm glad you drafted and

1327
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: he did it. But Stephen, am I wrong?

1328
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 7: Do you think Paul Allen looked at him and said, okay,

1329
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 7: but you're both better?

1330
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: Be right? And they were, they were.

1331
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: They were last one I got for you. Since you

1332
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: are a former cornerback by trade, I'm curious of the

1333
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: film that you've watched of the receivers in his class.

1334
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: Who from your cornerback perspective, do you say, oh, man,

1335
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: that cardinal. Is there anybody that's a close second?

1336
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1337
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 7: I think I think I think Makayle Lemon, right, Tyson,

1338
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 7: I like a lot.

1339
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: Why what scares you about them as a corner what?

1340
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: What?

1341
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: What about their game?

1342
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 7: I think I think Tate's ability to be pretty darn

1343
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 7: shifty at darn your top speed and he goes against

1344
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 7: the football.

1345
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: These Ohio State kids are a little bit different.

1346
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 7: And I really like the second receivers at Ohio State

1347
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 7: because it's almost like the old car commercial.

1348
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: They try harder, right, you know.

1349
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 7: And they come up through the ranks and they're not

1350
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 7: shy of competition because a lot of them join when

1351
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 7: they're three or four of those receivers still already there,

1352
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 7: and they don't they don't go away from it. That's

1353
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 7: what I like most about Tate Tyson. I love the body,

1354
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 7: I love the speed. I worry about the injury pass

1355
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 7: and concentration drops it I've seen along the way.

1356
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: And then Lemon.

1357
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 7: I just thought Lemon was exceptional this year. I really

1358
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 7: did thought he was a heck of a player.

1359
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: So what scares you as a corner about Lemon Just

1360
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: his shiftiness and.

1361
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 7: Separate shiftiness yards after catch. Getting him on the grounds

1362
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 7: not easily done.

1363
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: And he likes to operate that way. One move and

1364
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: off he goes.

1365
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 7: And so but but I think there's a bunch of

1366
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 7: these receivers and I just leave it with this guys

1367
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 7: a Malachai Fields from Notre Dame goes over the top

1368
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 7: and goes and gets it for you have really nice

1369
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 7: Singer Bowl week. You know, a guy like that can

1370
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 7: go play. But I just think there are a bunch

1371
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 7: of out there. Okay, And as usual, we'll find the

1372
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 7: second or third round receiver. That's pretty darn good. Remember

1373
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh made their living on second and third round.

1374
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: Charles, thanks as always for the time. I know you're

1375
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: a busy week, so thanks some time for us, and

1376
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: we'll catch up with you down the line.

1377
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 4: I look forward.

1378
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 7: I'm just so glad that Buffalo is not the snow

1379
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 7: capital of New York right now.

1380
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: Well, Syracuse usually beats us in total snowfall every year.

1381
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: Why do you want to give it to Cyrica? Just

1382
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: take just take the time. We don't need that. We

1383
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: don't need that.

1384
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: Man, take the win.

1385
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: We don't need that mantle.

1386
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: You guys be good, take care of ye.

1387
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: We'll be watching Charles's coverage on NFL Network throughout the

1388
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: week as uh, yeah, you gotta got a promo. I

1389
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: forgot beat high Land. Oh wow, okay, all right, all right.

1390
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: So that's Charles Davis joining us as he does every

1391
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: year here on one Bill's Live with our Combine coverage,

1392
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: and uh, obviously he'll be covering a lot of the workouts,

1393
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: watching the guys run, jump, go through the position drills.

1394
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: With the NFL work coverage.

1395
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's it's they get started in earnest on

1396
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 3: Thursday and the workouts and stuff right and televised and

1397
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: all that, so it'll be uh yeah.

1398
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to get his perspective, you know, being a

1399
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: former corner, you know, he he watches the receiver film

1400
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: and he's like and he knows, like first hit, Oh man,

1401
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: that would be a problem, like, oh, I'd have to

1402
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: play this guy a certain way. And it's a very

1403
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: good receiver class. So that's why I wanted to get

1404
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: his take. And this Jordan Tyson, I think is going

1405
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: to be a very polarizing player. Had a monster junior

1406
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: season in Arizona State over eleven hundred yards ten touchdowns,

1407
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: and then last year the production drops off because of injuries,

1408
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: including a hamstring injury, and he is not going to

1409
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: work out here at the combine because of his hamstring

1410
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: injury from the season. Now, if you're a personnel executive

1411
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: and maybe you're on the East Coast, you haven't been

1412
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: out there to see him a lot in person as

1413
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: the GA of your football team, because you got scouts

1414
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: doing that. Sure, I know it's probably not an end

1415
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: all be all that he doesn't work out here. You

1416
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: can work him out at a pro day. You can

1417
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: bring him in on a private thirty visit. What does

1418
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: it say though, when he attributes why he's not working

1419
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: out to a hamstring injury all the way back from

1420
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: the regular season, and he's known to have an injury history.

1421
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an extra degree of difficulty to me because

1422
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 3: now you're gonna go back and you're going to talk

1423
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: to his coaches, and you know, you got to dig deep.

1424
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: You got to talk to his high school coach, his

1425
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: position coach in college, head coach, teammates, if you can,

1426
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: if you can, Yeah, you got to find out if

1427
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 3: that's going to be a problem because, I mean, because

1428
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: it because what you're alluding to is the fact that

1429
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: you've got a guy who doesn't play when he's not right,

1430
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 3: who can't play injured, or who is hiding something or who.

1431
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: Doesn't want to hurt. Yeah, who's hiding something basically, But.

1432
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: He's when he plays, he's dynamic. And I mean I

1433
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: was listening to Daniel Jeremiah, who will have on later

1434
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: this week here on One Bill's Live, and he was

1435
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: talking about how watching him on film, there are times

1436
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: where he just seems to float and make plays like

1437
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: float through the air, like he's just hanging up there

1438
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: making plays.

1439
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: He was also coached by.

1440
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: Heinz Ward at Arizona State, So he's getting pro level

1441
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: coaching from a guy who knew it and did it

1442
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: for thirteen years. And heines Ward was as tough as nails,

1443
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: and he was tough as nails.

1444
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: Hines Ward's a Hall of Fame caliber player. So that

1445
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: guy played hurt all the time.

1446
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 3: Yes, so that you'd call that guy, you'd call Heinz

1447
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 3: one and say what about it? Yeah, and you know,

1448
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: by all rights he would give you a straight answer.

1449
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I don't know heines but

1450
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: you know a lot the word has it And the

1451
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 3: usual suspicion is that a college coach will always trump

1452
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 3: up their guys to make them look.

1453
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: Yes, that kind of thing. So you got to cut

1454
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: through that and to help their own recruit help the recruiting.

1455
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, that in essence, when that kid comes out

1456
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 3: and he's got a hamstring injury that's three months old

1457
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: and he didn't want to work out because of it,

1458
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: that's a flag, yeah, and you got to address it.

1459
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: I think that's that's an issue here, Like if you

1460
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: don't want to work out because you're one of the

1461
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: top rated receivers just say that, like, I don't want

1462
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: to get hurt here, so I can work out at

1463
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: my pro day and go on thirty visits and do

1464
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 2: whatever's asked of me. Like, to me, that's a better

1465
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: answer than saying my hamstring injury from three months ago?

1466
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: What the hell is that? Right?

1467
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: Like, I don't I don't like.

1468
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 3: Made so that at all. Yeah, that may that may

1469
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 3: be bad. Advice from his agent could be. Yeah, but

1470
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 3: you can't even put this all on the kid until

1471
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 3: you find out that it.

1472
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: Is all on him.

1473
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 2: But I like the receiver class. If the Bills are

1474
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: looking for size, you can find that. I mean, Tyson

1475
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: is going to be off the board. They're not gonna

1476
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: have a shot in him. Tate will be off the

1477
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: board as well. Presumably Omar Cooper could be off the board.

1478
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 2: The junior from Indiana six foot two oh four, Denzel

1479
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: Boston might be there six four to two ten. But

1480
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: even a guy like Jeremy Bernard from Alabama. I know

1481
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: he's only six to one, but he's two oh four

1482
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: and he plays big and he's pretty versatile player. And

1483
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: then you've got Chris Brazelle from Tennessee uh six five

1484
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 2: two hundred who can fly? So I think there are

1485
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: a lot of options. And you heard Malachi Fields, who

1486
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: is a guy Daniel Jeremiah mocked to the Bills at

1487
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: twenty six. I feel like that might be a little early,

1488
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: although he's gaining momentum after being widely considered the best

1489
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: wide receiver on the field at the Senior Bowl. So

1490
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: we'll talk to Daniel Jeremiah about Malachi Fields later this week.

1491
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: But you heard Charles Davis, who was at the Senior

1492
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: Bowl said he had a great week, So I think

1493
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: he's elevated his stock. Some people had him as the

1494
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: second round pick as he moved himself into the end

1495
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: of the first round conversation. And could he be a

1496
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: consideration for the Bills if maybe some of the other

1497
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: positional needs don't show the right value. I think there's

1498
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: a chance we could see something like that, right, But

1499
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: don't you think big is how the Bills are gonna

1500
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: go at receiver if they pick one.

1501
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, big is always better because it was

1502
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: a gift I never had, and you know you could

1503
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: always see where it had helped so many guys in

1504
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: their career being that big, Being bigger than the stereotypical

1505
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 3: yeah matchup. So I'm sure, I think so. I think

1506
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 3: they need a guy with some I mean they're looking

1507
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 3: for trades, no question, physic, big, physical size, strength, all

1508
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 3: the measurables. But they also want a guy whose game

1509
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 3: is centered around being alone when he gets thrown the ball.

1510
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have a guy who gets open.

1511
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 2: And I think there are a fewer of them there.

1512
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 3: They're hard to come by because that is and it's

1513
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: interesting too, because separators being a guy who can run routes,

1514
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: get open, shake a shake a defender, drop him off

1515
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 3: at the top of a route, and break away. It's

1516
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 3: a skill that is learnable, that is teachable, that is

1517
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: between your ears, knowing the moves to make, choreographing them,

1518
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 3: whatever however you want to put it. It's a learnable

1519
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: skill and if you take the time to learn it

1520
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Speaker 3: and be good at it. Not certainly some guys are

1521
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 3: gifted they get it kind of easier than others. But

1522
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 3: if you can learn that, you've always got a place

1523
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: to play as.

1524
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: Long as you want.

1525
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, getting open, aside from catching it when

1526
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: they throw it to you, getting open is comes before that.

1527
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do want to tell you that we are

1528
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: back on the live streams. So if you switched over

1529
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: to MSG because our live stream on Buffalo bills dot

1530
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: com and on the Bills app was preempted by the

1531
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: Bean and Joe Brady press conferences, we are back over there.

1532
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: If you need to switch, like if you're jumping in

1533
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: your car and you want to put the show on

1534
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: your phone and let into the audio in the car,

1535
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: you can do that. So if we've got some errands

1536
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: to run, don't worry. You can still get us on

1537
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 2: the stream there. We do have to take a break though.

1538
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll discuss more of the prospects

1539
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: here at the NFL Combine and some of what Joe

1540
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: Brady and Brandon Bean had to say on our air

1541
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: here earlier today. We'll recap some of that when we

1542
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

1543
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: All right, back here on One Bills Live. First day

1544
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: of coverage here in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine, and

1545
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: we had a jam pack day. We had Brandon Bean

1546
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 2: and Joe Brady right out of the shoot here in

1547
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: the first hour, Charles Davis here in the second hour,

1548
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: and Steve and I are playing a little bit of

1549
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: catch up here. We've only had about a week or

1550
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: so to dive into the draft class. With all the

1551
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 2: coaching changes that were made earlier in the offseason, we

1552
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: were focused on that. Plus you also got to prepare

1553
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: for free agency, which is gonna come before the draft.

1554
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: But then you gotta get ready for the draft. Here

1555
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 2: for the Combine, and it's.

1556
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: Just a jumble.

1557
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 2: So we're we're working it, We're working.

1558
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's this really kind of resets the whole football

1559
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 3: year for you and I.

1560
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: This is the league.

1561
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: The new league starts when we show up at the Combine,

1562
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 3: right and we touch base with head coach GM and

1563
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 3: all the analysts that come on our show, not only

1564
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 3: here at the Combine, but throughout the year. We have

1565
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, Charles Davis joins us, uh every time he

1566
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 3: got a Bills game. So uh, this is kind of

1567
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 3: the launch point for what we're gonna do for the

1568
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 3: next six months as we build, you know.

1569
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: We help, as we help build the roster, do our,

1570
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: we do.

1571
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 2: Our Oh yeah, you see Bean grab my wrist again.

1572
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 2: He gave me one of these.

1573
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: Like that's because I told him about the running back

1574
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: He gave me a layup on that one.

1575
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, so this is this is good to

1576
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 3: be here, and we are kind of in a little

1577
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 3: bit of a catch up mode. And I think too,

1578
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit of a.

1579
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: A sense of new.

1580
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: We're kind of neutral as we try to transition a

1581
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 3: defensive roster into a new system, a new head coach.

1582
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 3: There are so many other aspects that we don't know

1583
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 3: what we're looking at yet because we haven't been able

1584
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: to see it.

1585
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: What's the new coaching staff going to look like?

1586
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: What's it gonna you know, what's the practice schedule, the philosophy?

1587
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 3: What are the players going to notice that it's different

1588
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: about this coaching staff, let alone who those players are.

1589
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually ran out of time with Joe Brady

1590
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: because I had a question on my list that I

1591
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: wanted to ask him. We ran out of time. I

1592
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: wanted to ask him, what do you think is going

1593
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 2: to be the one most notable difference in how you

1594
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: run your practice and things like that? Right that we

1595
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: watching practice are going to notice. Do you think what

1596
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: do you subscribe to that you have to have in

1597
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: your practice setting that is going to probably look a

1598
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: little bit different than your predecessor.

1599
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 3: And I don't know that a lot of football practices

1600
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 3: look identical. Maybe we'll notice that they do certain things

1601
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 3: ahead of other things, or they have they have a

1602
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 3: different order or yeah, the different order of how they

1603
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: want to run practice. You know, defense first, offense second,

1604
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 3: you know, situational football, all the stuff. We'll notice maybe

1605
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 3: a little bit of that, but that could have happened

1606
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: under any head coach that you didn't change. You're really

1607
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 3: gonna have to have our finger on the pulse of

1608
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 3: the players who have been here to say what do

1609
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 3: you think? What what's it like on the inside, because

1610
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 3: players are very sensitive to differences in routine. And after

1611
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 3: nine years of Sean McDermott as head coach and they

1612
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: were productive nine years, the players to be ultra sensitive

1613
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: to whatever change is happening. And we're gonna have to

1614
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 3: catch them early to let them to notice, because they'll

1615
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: be very very aware of it even if we're not.

1616
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we mentioned the cost prohibitive cap figures of

1617
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 2: some players on the Bills roster at the top of

1618
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: the board, and those being you know Josh Allen, who's

1619
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 2: a simple cap conversion this year and you can save

1620
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 2: about twenty million. We would expect that to get done

1621
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: in short order. Brandon told us here on the show

1622
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: that Spencer Brown just got restructured and that that got

1623
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: sent into the league yesterday and that was done. You

1624
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 2: got Curtis Samuel, you have Dawson Knox, and you've also

1625
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: got at Oliver. So when we mentioned those names, he said,

1626
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: you know, you have discussions with their reps and see

1627
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,440
Speaker 2: what's realistic in terms of how contracts can be massaged

1628
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: or altered to be more cap friendly, and we know

1629
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 2: what the options are there. But then he also mentioned

1630
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 2: the other options he has at his disposal outright release,

1631
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: which I think could happen for a couple of players

1632
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 2: on this roster and trade. I tried to get a

1633
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 2: gauge from Brandon as to what he feels the trade

1634
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 2: market will look like. With as we've said on this

1635
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 2: show several times, ten new head coaches, which tied a

1636
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: league record for most in an offseason. It happened four

1637
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: other times in the history of the league, most recently

1638
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, which I found hard to believe us.

1639
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: I know, we realize that, yeah, but in any event,

1640
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: it's going to create change across the league in terms

1641
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: of scheme changes, and that means there are going to

1642
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 2: be fits and guys that don't fit and are going

1643
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: to be thrown overboard or traded. If there are valued

1644
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: to be some kind of commodity that can get something

1645
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 2: back in return, do they determine their players on the

1646
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: roster that fit in that bucket. I'm curious to see,

1647
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: because I think there could be some candidates there and

1648
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: maybe don't fit the three four defensive system and could

1649
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: be deemed a trade commodity. And then maybe that's the

1650
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: way you acquire cheap labor. Maybe you can acquire a

1651
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: player on a rookie contract from another team.

1652
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 3: So Brownie and I are sitting here and you know,

1653
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: we banger it. We've been doing this for I don't

1654
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 3: know a handful of years now together. And you asked

1655
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 3: him about the robust trade market.

1656
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 1: Could it be a roust takemother? And he poop pooed

1657
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: it on.

1658
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: I didn't poop poo it, but he was dead silent,

1659
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 3: which you and I bypassed.

1660
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: He bypassed it.

1661
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 3: So Brownie and I were like, he's low bid both

1662
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 3: of us that he's gonna trade for something, because.

1663
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 2: Because he said he dismissed it.

1664
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: Because he dismissed it, we both thought, we're.

1665
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: Trying to read the tea leaves just like you are

1666
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: out there.

1667
01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 3: We are so, we are such gonners, We're such what

1668
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 3: do you think he meant?

1669
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: Just the opposite of what he needs to do.

1670
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 2: These are the conversations, right, We're so, we are so

1671
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: off our rocker.

1672
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 3: That's why we needed to leave town to get to

1673
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: Indianapolis have a weekend. You know, I'm a good grief it.

1674
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 3: There is a lot to be done. I don't know

1675
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: even know what job one is. Joe Brady, you asked

1676
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 3: him what took up most of his time. He said, hey,

1677
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 3: we got to get the staff together. He mentioned fitting

1678
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,520
Speaker 3: personalities on the staff.

1679
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: Together, which is making sure they were different, right and

1680
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: not all the same.

1681
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 3: I had heard a little of that in the past,

1682
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 3: but not to that. You know, I hadn't anybody articulated

1683
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: like Joe did. But I know it's true. Uh, they

1684
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 3: want they don't want their entire staff to be made

1685
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 3: up of one guy because players need somebody to talk

1686
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: to and they don't like talking to guys like that, right,

1687
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 3: So they.

1688
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: Need another guy or you need to crack the whip.

1689
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know, and you need an energy guy

1690
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: and teach your guy.

1691
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: You need an excell o guy, you need a creative guy,

1692
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 3: bad cop, right, the whole thing. So Joe Brady admitted

1693
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: that was his That's what he's been taking up his

1694
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 3: time over the last month. There's another job one, Now

1695
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: what is it? Is it evaluating these draft prospects or

1696
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 3: getting ready for free agency? You got to do both

1697
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: of the kind of at the same time. I think

1698
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a really hectic few months for

1699
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills. Uh maybe hectic. Maybe we'll perceive it

1700
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 3: as hectic because there's so much to do. But they,

1701
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: you know, Brandon Bean and Joe Brady both seemed like

1702
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 3: they had a handle on what their their plan was.

1703
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 3: But man, oh man, you talk about what the mountain

1704
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 3: of stuff that we are asking about that they have

1705
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 3: to decide about and have a plan about.

1706
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we I mean I also asked Joe, you know,

1707
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: you've been part of those interviews with player prospects, and

1708
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 2: when you're the coordinator, sometimes the head coach will say, hey,

1709
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna run this one with the quarterback. I want

1710
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 2: you asking him a x's and O's concepts how he

1711
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: would audible, You're gonna run it. And so Joe's used

1712
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: to being on the front lines of asking questions in

1713
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: those interview settings. Now he's the head coach, and a

1714
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: lot of times head coach they sit in the back

1715
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 2: and they observe everything. They're more of a fly on

1716
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: the wall. That's why I asked him, are you gonna

1717
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: be a fly on the wall or you're gonna roll

1718
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: up your sleeves a little bit? And he said, I

1719
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: let my assistance run it and get a feel for

1720
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: the player because they're gonna be the ones that are coaching.

1721
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: But then he put a butt in there and he said,

1722
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: but there are over arching team concept questions that I

1723
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 2: want to ask, And I think what he's trying to

1724
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: get to the bottom of is is this guy a

1725
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: team guy? Is this guy gonna pull on the rope

1726
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 2: with everybody else maybe when he's not getting the ball

1727
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: or you know, something goes wrong on the field. Is

1728
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: this the guy putting his head down? Or is this

1729
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: the guy firing people up? Those are the overarching things

1730
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: that he may insert himself in one of those interviews

1731
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: and ask.

1732
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 3: Every you else to hear about give and take and

1733
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 3: being on a team sport like football, it's a it's

1734
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 3: a give and take atmosphere. And the more guys who

1735
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: are willing to contribute and to give and to sacrifice

1736
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 3: and to do the hard things, the better off you are.

1737
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: Everybody needs to take a little bit and when they

1738
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: need to be and they need to you know, get there,

1739
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 3: you know, get their stats, whatever you want to call it. Uh,

1740
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 3: they need to play their position as good as they

1741
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 3: can play it. But you need to find out if

1742
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 3: a guy is a contributor or he's a detractor. And

1743
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 3: there's almost no chance to be anything other than one

1744
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 3: of those two things in any situation. Now, in some situations,

1745
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 3: the guys will contribute.

1746
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 1: Right.

1747
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 3: In the passing game, a wide receiver is gonna be

1748
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 3: the guy. He's gonna want the ball, he's gonna run

1749
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 3: the route, he's gonna you know, you're gonna want to

1750
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: put him at the centerpiece of the passing offense. In

1751
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: the run game, he may be disinterested allaw Sammy Watkins right.

1752
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 3: He may he may be a disse gain on a

1753
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 3: scramble play. He may turn it off instead of turning

1754
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 3: it up. Uh, you gotta find You're trying to find

1755
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 3: that out about these guys and what they're even in

1756
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 3: a even in a team meeting and a wide receiver

1757
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 3: on there. You know, I've got many memories of sitting

1758
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 3: in wide receiver rooms. I'm in there with James Lofton

1759
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:23,879
Speaker 3: and and uh Andre Reid and Don Beebie, with Nick Nikolau,

1760
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: who's a great teacher, and all those guys contributing something

1761
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: to what's going on on the play. You know, I said, well,

1762
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: what about you know, what are we going to do

1763
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 3: with this? And that's it's a It's a healthy way

1764
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: to live. You can't have parasites on your team. You

1765
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 3: can't have guys that turn into parasites. And if you do,

1766
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 3: it's a problem, and you don't you don't want to

1767
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,919
Speaker 3: ask for problems in this draft problem.

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01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 2: Right, And that was one of the things that we

1769
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: ran out of time for with Joe with Brandon Bean

1770
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 2: as well, because I wanted to ask him how might

1771
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: the type of player you feel comfortable drafting chain with

1772
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: a new head coach and Joe Brad because you talked

1773
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: all the time about having some stone cold killers on

1774
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: the roster and outside of Alec Anderson and maybe Spencer Brown,

1775
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: who can get ornery in the right situation, and maybe

1776
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 2: Shaq Thompson on defense. There aren't too many cats, you

1777
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean, willing to jump into some kind

1778
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 2: of freakast.

1779
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 3: You and I have this conversation all time, off the

1780
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 3: off the air. You need a handful of guys that

1781
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 3: you just hope show up on time. But if they do,

1782
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: you got a chance. You got a chance. Here we go.

1783
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 3: But if they because they do not care, because they

1784
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 3: do not care about their Bible, they don't care about

1785
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: your curfew. They're gonna listen, dude, I got my thing.

1786
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 3: I'll show up when I'm supposed to be there. Shut

1787
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 3: up and let me play. What what's the play? Let's

1788
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 3: go that kind of guy. You need a handful. You

1789
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: don't need two handfuls, because then you got you've got

1790
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 3: too many. But you need a handful of guys that

1791
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 3: will absolutely fist fight the head coat coach if it

1792
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 3: comes to it. And the head coach knows it too,

1793
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: and the players know it. But the guy's got a

1794
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 3: sense of right and wrong. He's got a sense of

1795
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: competing and competing he wants the best for the team.

1796
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: Those guys exist they're they're important. They're as hard to

1797
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: find as any other skill set because they got to

1798
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,520
Speaker 3: be good enough players that you want them on the field.

1799
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: Right and when the going and when the going gets tough, they.

1800
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: Get better, that's right, And they make you better. So

1801
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: you need guys like that.

1802
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: And you and I have talked about maybe that that

1803
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 3: was one aspect of this team's personality that was lacking.

1804
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: But they didn't have guys that went to the past

1805
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: the whistle, were.

1806
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: Ready to rip someone's face off.

1807
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: They didn't.

1808
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 3: They you know, they weren't ever going to get a

1809
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: personal foul, you know, even when they should have.

1810
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: You know, be careful about that now, because now the

1811
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: replay assistant upstairs might be throwing a flag on that

1812
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: and ejecting you from the game.

1813
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 3: If I'm that guy, I do not care. Well, that's right,

1814
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: I do not care, and I'm that will not impact

1815
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm stiff arming the sideline going, I don't want to

1816
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 3: hear it.

1817
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: Just shut up.

1818
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: I've got them out.

1819
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go do this.

1820
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do this.

1821
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 3: You need that attitude on your football team because it

1822
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 3: is still despite how far they've evolved away.

1823
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: From cheap shots and the bat. You know that they.

1824
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 3: Close line the safety the game and the player safety.

1825
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 3: Despite how far it's moved away from that. It is

1826
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 3: a physical game and it's best played when you're under

1827
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 3: the mindset of disciplined anger. And a lot of guys

1828
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 3: have trouble playing either angry enough or disciplined enough, but

1829
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: not both.

1830
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: See if they can find some of those guys. Team

1831
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: Mesidor sounds awfully good.

1832
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: That guy is.

1833
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he is relent. I remember watching him against

1834
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Indiana and.

1835
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: That there is no off switch. There are dude's in there, man,

1836
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: there is.

1837
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: No off switch. We got to take a break. Steve

1838
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: and Ile close things up here to wrap up Day

1839
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: one of our coverage Live from Indiana is here at

1840
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: the NFL Combine on One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Help.

1841
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live.

1842
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: Chris Ground, Steve Tasker with you.

1843
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: Comany alive from the NFL Combine. Day one is just

1844
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: about in the books, and we've got a full slave

1845
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,799
Speaker 2: for you tomorrow. We'll get to that in a second.

1846
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 2: I think the things we learned here today a gonna

1847
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: be very difficult to re sign. Connor McGovern and David Edwards,

1848
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: especially if they get to the free agent market, and

1849
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 2: I think we would anticipate that they will take the

1850
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: course of action that they've always done. The Bills will say,

1851
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 2: here's what we feel your market value.

1852
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: Is to us.

1853
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: If you feel you can do better, you've earned the

1854
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: right to do that, so go get it. If you're

1855
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: disappointed in the market, you can always come back to us.

1856
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 2: But they got to put a cap on that because

1857
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: they have cap constraints.

1858
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 3: I think we're also to coming to the real nitty

1859
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 3: gritty realization that this team is gonna look very It

1860
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: may look very, very different in twenty twenty six than

1861
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: it did in twenty twenty maybe, or has looked like

1862
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 3: over the last twenty five or twenty twenties.

1863
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, last five years.

1864
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: Maybe even more different on the offensive side of the

1865
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: ball than people thought. And those two offensive linemen could

1866
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: be a big part of that there.

1867
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: Going forward, two offensive linemen, a new wide receiver, maybe

1868
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 3: three new wide receivers on the field. Yep, even if

1869
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 3: they're managed to you know, Dawston Knoxy sticks around with

1870
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: Kincaid and Hawes. Okay, there's three, but you know, there's

1871
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: no nothing saying Ty Johnson and.

1872
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: Ray Davis are back in the well.

1873
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: They're under contract. They Yeah, but it's that this is

1874
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: gonna be some tough decision.

1875
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:54,839
Speaker 1: It's gonna have some tough decisions.

1876
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a huge change, and I don't I

1877
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 3: think we're just now seeing.

1878
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: The reality of how different it will be.

1879
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1880
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: We also learned live on the air from Brandon Bean

1881
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: that the Bills did restructure the contract of Spencer Brown,

1882
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 2: so that has been accomplished to create some more cast space.

1883
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 2: I would assume I would expect more moves of that

1884
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 2: variety going forward, maybe even a player release or two,

1885
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: because it is that time of the year. Full slate

1886
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 2: coming your way tomorrow as our combine coverage continues here

1887
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. Daniel Jeremiah, your NFL Network draft analyst, will

1888
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: join us, as will Bucky Brooks, also from NFL Network

1889
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: and ESPN draft analyst Jordan Reed, and an interesting mock

1890
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: draft pick to the Bills. We'll find out who that

1891
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 2: is tomorrow as our coverage begins here on or continues

1892
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 2: on Wednesday.

1893
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: We'll see it one