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By yours at Walmart today, 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, peepson, and welcome to wikay f Daily with 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: me your girl Danielle Moody recording from the Bunker. By 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: now you have no doubt heard the horrendous story of 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: the ten year old girl, Ohio girl who was raped 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: and was found to be six weeks and three days 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: pregnant and had to travel to Indiana in order to 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: receive an abortion. The Wall Street Journal, Fox News, and 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: other Republicans had the audacity to say that her story 18 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: her trauma was quote unquote too good to be true. 19 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: The President of the United States used her story while 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: enacting an executive order that just frankly and I take 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: my queue from abortion Rights activists on the ground just 22 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: doesn't go far enough. They can go further. And I 23 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: sit here as we are heading into the first full 24 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: month of people with uterus is not having bodily autonomy 25 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: in this country, and we are hearing horrendous story after 26 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: horrendous story, and you have the Texas Attorney General suing 27 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: the Biden administration to ensure that Texas has the right 28 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: to kill people right. HHS has released guidelines that say 29 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: that when the life of the pregnant person is at risk, 30 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: that an abortion can in fact be used as a 31 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: life saving procedure. Texas says, nah let him die. Indiana, 32 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: which has abortion, their attorney general, who is a Republican, 33 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: has decided to go after the doctor who gave life 34 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: saving medical treatment to this ten year old so that 35 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have to be a mother at ten to 36 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: her fucking rapist. This country is so fucking sick and distorted, 37 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: and by the day I become increasingly disgusted. Today I'm 38 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: once again joined on wogay f by the founder and 39 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: CEO of We Testify, Renee Bracy Sherman, who you know. 40 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: I will tell you, folks that there are times when 41 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: doing interviews for me, really hit me in the moment 42 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: right where, you know, I become overwhelmed with the despair, 43 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: with the anguish, with the pain that people are so 44 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: willing to share, that are on the ground doing the 45 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: necessary work to help people, particularly in this case, help 46 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: people get the treatment that they need, the healthcare that 47 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: they need in order to have a say over their 48 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: own goddamn lives. And Renee started off the conversation, you know, emotional, 49 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: and how could she not be She is still going 50 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: to airports and picking people up and taking them on 51 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: long journeys to go and receive the care that they 52 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: should be able to get in their own fucking communities, 53 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: right that they shouldn't need to reach out to an 54 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: abortion fund to be able to get the funding that 55 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: they need in order to fly, drive, go to different 56 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: states to get their care. One of the things that 57 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Renee brings up in our interview is that, you know, 58 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: nothing was mentioned in the executive order that would allow 59 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: funds to be given to people that need to travel 60 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: in order to get an abortion. And I say something 61 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: that I'm going to say at the beginning of the 62 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: show that you will hear me say later on, which 63 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: is that I don't believe that Joe Biden actually is 64 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: pro choice. I believe that abortion runs in complete and 65 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: total conflict with his religion, and it is why he 66 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: has been pulled, kicking and screaming to do the least 67 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: with regard to protecting the right to bodily autonomy. It 68 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: took him weeks to even come out and say anything 69 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: for full He still doesn't utter the word abortion, and 70 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: he still is not using the full force of the 71 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: federal government in order to protect women and people with 72 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: uterus is. And the question that I keep asking is why. 73 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: And the only thing that keeps floating up to my 74 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: mind is because he's a Catholic right and he's only 75 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: going to do but so much and he believes oh well, 76 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: and I said, you know the reason why, I don't 77 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: believe that this is a political move, because his poll 78 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: numbers are in the fucking trash and the poll numbers 79 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: for abortion are still in the seventy and probably now 80 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: high seventy, low eighty percentile now that the right is gone, 81 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: And so what is stopping Joe Biden and this administration 82 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: from taking the urgent action that is necessary. And frankly, 83 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: you know what you will hear from Renee is her 84 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: feeling about the decisions that are being made and the 85 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: executive orders that are being pushed out as like milktoast. 86 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: All it is is asking for more research and reports 87 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and she goes. Movement leaders put together those reports before 88 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Biden even put his hand on the fucking Bible, Right, 89 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: So you don't need an EO to say that we 90 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: need more research. You know, we've had fifty fucking years 91 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: of research that's been done. Also, you've had a considerable 92 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: amount of fucking lead time given the fact that we 93 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: had saw that leaked draft weeks prior to the decision 94 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: being final, and there was no action that was taken. 95 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: If anything, there should have been action that had been 96 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: taken once Biden was sworn in, and we saw that 97 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: Amy Coney Barrett was yet the second seat that was 98 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: stolen from Democrats, they should have come in solidifying, right. So, 99 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, people ask why do you go so hard 100 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: against Democrats? Because Democrats are the one out here promising 101 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: people shit and not delivering. And frankly, for many people 102 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: who have dedicated their lives to the advancement of equity, 103 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: bodily autonomy, and justice for all people in this country. 104 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Their fucking slow walking is getting a little tired. Coming 105 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: up next, my full conversation with our friend, Renee Bracy Sherman, Folks, 106 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: I am happy to welcome back to Woke f Daily, 107 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Renee Bracy Sherman, who is the founder and an executive 108 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: director of We Testify, an organization dedicated to the leadership 109 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: and representation of people who have abortions, focusing on the 110 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: intersection of race, class, and gender identity, and centering those 111 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: who've experienced financial and logistical barriers to abortion. Renee, it's 112 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: been a hell of a last three weeks. When we 113 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: had you on last it was the conversation around the 114 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: leak draft, what if, what if? What if? Well, the 115 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: what if is here? All of the things that we 116 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: thought that we feared that you have spent your life 117 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: working to ensure the protection thereof is now gone. And 118 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: so before we dive into any specifics on what your 119 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: organization and you as an advocate and leader, have been 120 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: experiencing and how quickly things have devolved, how are you doing. 121 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm a little more emotional today than I am most days. 122 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I'm really tired, and I'm not even as 123 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: tired as the folks who are in the clinics on 124 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: the ground, the abortion funds, As the clinics are closing 125 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: abortion funds, they have to stop operations. We're just all 126 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: really tired, and it's really exhausting, not only because of 127 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: everything that's going on that you know, we've warned about 128 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: it for ten years and no one listened to us. 129 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: And even now it's still with the ideas where we're like, 130 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: here's what we need to be able to move forward. 131 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: The response is, well, we can't do that, and here's why. 132 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Even though we know that you can, we're just choosing 133 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: not to. And so I think that's adding to the 134 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: disappointment and the frustration. Like many activists across the country, 135 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: I still do what's called practical support, so I picked 136 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: people up from the airport and drive them to their 137 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: hotel or to their abortion appointment. And so I'm still 138 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: very much seeing the impact of what's happening on the 139 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: ground with people who are traveling from states where abortion 140 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: is now a crime, and they're feeling really defeated and 141 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: frustrated and upset because they were so close and yet 142 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: you know, just missed it. Though, everyone is just really 143 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: really tired, and I don't I don't know how we 144 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: keep this up. I really don't, you know, no, dope, 145 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: please do not apologize. Emotions are extraordinarily raw and for 146 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: you and the people like you who are in this 147 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: work every single day have been on my mind since 148 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: the leak draft and the stories that are floating up 149 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: that we are seeing in the headlines are so disturbing, 150 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: are so heartbreaking, are so alarming as of you know, 151 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: just a few days ago, Texas Attorney General, who by 152 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: the way, is under his own indictment charges, has decided 153 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: to file suit against the Biden administration stopping HHS from 154 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: enforcing guidelines that say that in the matter of a 155 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: pregnancy affecting the life of said pregnant person, that abortion 156 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: can and should be used as a procedure in order 157 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: to save their lives Texas, says Jenna. And so when 158 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: we recognize that there is no common ground with these people, 159 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: there is no exception, right, there is no carve out 160 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: it is. I don't care if you're ten years old 161 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: and you have been traumatized multiple times, We're going to 162 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: traumatize you again and again and again. And now we're 163 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna disrupt and maybe put the doctor who lawfully treated 164 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: you out of business right for saving essentially saving the 165 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: life of a ten year old, because that's what that 166 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: doctor did. Um, I just I guess I will. I 167 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: will ask you this. Biden has been underwhelming in this area. 168 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: He has been underwhelming, and I am and I am 169 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: being nice response. I'm being very nice. I'm choosing my words, 170 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: and I want to get your reaction to uh the 171 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: executive order UH that was put into effect, and what 172 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: you felt about the content of that executive order and 173 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: what should if you think it was not enough, which 174 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you do not, what should have been in there, 175 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: and what still can be done. Well, First, I want 176 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: to go back to the original point you were saying 177 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: about the little girl. Yes, all of the folks in 178 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Texas and we have always known that our lives did 179 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: not matter to them. That is why they could not 180 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: just say black lives matter. They have actually never cared 181 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: about our lives, our health, our safety. It's always been 182 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: about control. But I do think it's really scary for 183 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: people to see that in real life. And they have 184 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: been hearings all week this week on Capitol Hill where 185 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: now the anti abortion movement knows that they're so out 186 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: of step, and it looks really bad that you are 187 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: denying this this young girl her autonomy and with her parents' 188 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: support that they're they're now changing it and saying, well, 189 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: that's not an abortion. If it's happening on a ten 190 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: year old survivor, it's quote not an abortion. It's what 191 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: the head of AUELL said yesterday. What is it now? 192 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: It was changing. They're changing the definition of an abortion. 193 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: And also when you terminate a pregnancy that's an ectopic pregnancy, 194 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: they're now saying that's also not an abortion. So again, 195 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're changing the definition of what 196 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: an abortion is. But actually, to me, it's always been 197 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: the same thing because what to them, abortion is not 198 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: a medical procedure. It is about controlling people, both freedom 199 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: and atom. And so to them, they're making the definition 200 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: of an abortion anything that someone freely chooses to terminate 201 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: a pregnancy that they that they did not want, and 202 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: that is actually about the control. And I think people 203 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: really really need to see that. That's why they can't 204 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: say abortionist healthcare because then they'd have to say, yes, 205 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: we believe in healthcare, right, but it is the what 206 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: abortion symbolizes is our freedom and our own decisions to 207 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: make our own futures in our own lives. To get 208 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: to the Biden EO. I am so tired of fighting 209 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: pro choice politician. I'm so tired of it. And people 210 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: keep asking me, why don't you yell at the Republicans, 211 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Because you know what, the Republicans never promised freedom and 212 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: autonomy and access to abortion. They never promised us that. 213 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: They have not gone back on any of their promises. 214 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: They told us exactly what they were going to do. 215 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: They never said they were going to save us. They 216 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: said they were going to save the babies. Yep, that 217 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: is it. Democrats are the ones who said that they 218 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: would save us, that they would be there for us, 219 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: that they would make sure Row didn't fall. They are 220 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the ones that are are really being frustrating. I was 221 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: in a meeting where someone described I think a Republican 222 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: who's quite ultra right as as as a moderate and 223 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: who's really trying to bring the party back, and I 224 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: think they're so out of touchage with what is actually happening. Hey, 225 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm David. Plots of slates political gabfest. 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New episodes every Tuesday, 243 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: and yet they tell you right there was It was 244 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: just the other day with the outgoing White House communications 245 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: director who said that you'll are the ones that are 246 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: out of step with the mainstream of the Democratic Party 247 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: that it's the activists, right, those that are on the 248 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: fucking ground doing the work shuttling the people, trying to 249 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: keep these funds going, trying to protect people's autonomy. But 250 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: you're the ones that are the problem for identifying the 251 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: fact that they sold us a bag of bullshit that 252 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: they had no intention of backing up, right right, And 253 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I'll I'll say to her on that, Kate, your president, 254 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: your boss's approval ratings are in the thirties. Abortion has 255 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: been seventy and higher, come on since nineteen seventy three. 256 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: So you can say whatever you want to, excuse your 257 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: milk toast response, but the facts are the facts. Just 258 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: because we're being sold, as you rightfully put it, a 259 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: bag of bullshit, doesn't mean we have to accept it. 260 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: And we are not out of step for telling you 261 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: what is the solution and you batting it away as 262 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: if we don't know what we're talking about, and then 263 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: giving us this executive order that does very little. Most 264 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: of the executive order is ordering more reporters from HS 265 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: that'll be due in thirty days. It's a delayed response. 266 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: You know what they have, the reports you and I 267 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: know why because our movement has put them together for 268 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: the last eighteen months. We have reports put together way 269 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: before Biden even was inaugurated. So spare me that you're 270 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: doing something. We've asked for a public health emergency? Where 271 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: is it? We have asked for protections for providers so 272 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: they don't become criminalized. Exactly what has happened as what's 273 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: happening with the doctor with doctor Bernard in Indiana. I 274 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: will also say what has been really painful and on 275 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: my heart when President Biden announced that executive order, which 276 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: I want to be clear, the timing of it was 277 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: announced that it was going to happen overnight. The other 278 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: thing was that they had been notified that Bloomberg News 279 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: was doing an article. They had a scoop that the 280 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: White House, they had talked to White House sources and 281 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: sources at HHS that the President had considered a public 282 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: health emergency and said yep. So the timing of that 283 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: executive order seems like it is to cover up the 284 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: fact that they had are not doing what we had 285 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: specific pacifying, So I want to I want to be 286 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: clear about what that was. And then the Saturday after 287 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: when we did not accept their executive order and we 288 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: said this is not what we asked for and sent 289 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: it back. That's when we got called out of steps. 290 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: So I want to be clear, you don't seem to 291 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: have the time to go after Joe Mansion and Kurson Cinema, 292 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: who were holding up the racist philibuster, but you got 293 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: time for me who. I want to be clear. When 294 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I heard about that out of step comment, I was 295 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: in the middle of helping someone get an abortion, so 296 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: excuse me that I don't time for them. But with 297 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: this speech, Biden spoke about that ten year old who 298 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: needed an She's been on my mind and my heart 299 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: for so long, right since the story came out, because 300 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if she is going on the internet 301 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: or parents are going on the internet trying to use 302 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: the Internet and seeing their daughter's story being debated, where 303 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: she has almost been dehumanized by all sides because she's 304 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: she's a talking point, or she's a fake story or 305 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: whatever it is. She's a human being. And as someone 306 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: who has shared my abortion story, I know what that's 307 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: like to see people talk about you like that, and 308 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: it's extremely dehumanizing, and I don't know what it's going 309 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: to be like for her as she continues to grow 310 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: up and then looks at the history books of that 311 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: time and sees herself talked about in this way. I 312 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: hope she is being surrounded by love and support, and 313 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I hope that she has they. But also, as Biden 314 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: was using that story to just by his executive order, 315 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: he talked about the freedom to travel, and yet he 316 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: did not announce any financial support for someone like her 317 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: or anyone who has to travel for an abortion. He 318 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: could do that with a stroke of his pen. That's 319 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: not covered by the High Amendment, and yet he's choosing 320 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: not to. So how is it that you're willing to 321 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: use this little girl's experience, her trauma, or her story, 322 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: but not do anything to help her and her family 323 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: get from Ohio to Indiana for that abortion. I will 324 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: also say that those of us who had abortions have 325 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: been asking for months to meet with the president so 326 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: he could hear our stories, and he has refused. His 327 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: staff continues to not respond to us. And this is 328 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: not unheard of Clinton met with people who had abortions 329 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: ahead of vetoing a later abortion. And so my question is, 330 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: is President Biden, at what point will you actually meet 331 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: with us and listen to our stories. Our stories are 332 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: not props for you to justify your milk toast response. 333 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: We are real people. Several week testify storytellers have been 334 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: testifying before Congress, including one who testified just earlier this 335 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: weekend on Wednesday. Right, they put themselves up, share their stories, 336 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: make their voices heard. They get called murderers, they get 337 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: harassed by Fox News and all the conservative outlets for 338 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: weeks on end. And yet our pro choice president can't 339 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: be bothered to meet with us and to thank us 340 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: for what we are doing in service of our nation. 341 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: He meets with every other impacted group when they're being harmed. 342 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: He meets with all the union organizers as they're trying 343 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: to get workplace rights right. You know who else is 344 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: doing that? People have abortion because part of those union 345 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: contracts are access to abortion care. So it's so frustrating 346 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: that he will meet with everyone else but us. And 347 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: my question is, what are you afraid of? Because I'm 348 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure, I'm just I'm gonna say it. I'm pretty 349 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: sure that this president is actually not pro choice. I'm 350 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure that his religious beliefs absolutely supersed where he 351 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: is willing to go. I do not think that this 352 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: is a political maneuver. I don't and I never have because, 353 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: to your point, the poles are on our side. The 354 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: poles are on the side of people who believe that 355 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: bodily autonomy should be a part of our constitutional rights. Right. 356 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: So this isn't about oh, well, how will Republicans use it? 357 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: It's that he doesn't believe in it, so he will 358 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: do the bare minimum. What can I What can I 359 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: do that will allow me to seem as if I'm 360 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: making moves towards protection without actually doing the heavy lifting. 361 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: That's where that's that's where this administration is. And so 362 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: you know when when we when we listen to or 363 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: read the quote from the outgoing White House Communications director 364 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: and saying that we're out of step, it's like, this 365 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: is what this is My problem with Democrats, the democratic 366 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: establishment and leadership altogether, is that you all are out 367 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: of step. Right, that this is why nine of the 368 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: people who are thirty and below don't want to fuck 369 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: with you. This is why they are not engaged with 370 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: wanting to vote for you, because they see the bare 371 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: minimum that you're doing. Right. They are tokens and they 372 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: are stories, but they are not right. Policy measures that 373 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: need to actually be put in place to protect those 374 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: very people that you say that you're a courting into 375 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: your party. Renee tell us a few minutes. Oh yeah, 376 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: please have been real quick there, because what is so 377 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: frustrating is that for them to call us out of step. 378 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: I didn't have to be dragged kicking and screaming into 379 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty primary campaign to support the High Amendment. 380 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: He did. The Democratic Party removed supporting the High Amendment 381 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: from the platform the party platform in twenty sixteen. It 382 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: wasn't until activists pushed and pushed and pushed that Biden 383 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: finally reversed his stance. He was out of step with 384 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: his own party for four years, and it basically wasn't 385 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: until he was already going to be the nominee that 386 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: he changed his position to be in line with the 387 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: party and in line with everyone else. With the exceptional 388 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: Telsea Gabert, who was on that stage, who is out 389 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: of step, It is not. I am ahead of step. 390 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: My colleagues and I we saw what was happening. So 391 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: you want to call us out of step, we're out 392 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: of step because we're ahead of you and we're come on, 393 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: we are not out of step as in we're being 394 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: dragged kicking and strength, screaming behind, asking to being left behind. Yes, 395 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: our ideas are new, but Paul, so that they support them. 396 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 1: We're not behind the times. And if that's what you 397 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: mean by out of step, being ahead, yes, yes we are. 398 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: But actually no, you're out of step. And that is 399 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: exactly why we now have senators and we had a 400 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: whole letter from black representatives congresswoman calling on him to 401 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: do the public health emergency. He is officially out of 402 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: step with his party even right now, with something that 403 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: activists have been asking for for weeks. I will also 404 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: say on that comment, there's the comment that kind of 405 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: flies under the radar. There was UM advisor Jennifer Palmieri's 406 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: comment where she said, you know, these activists, what is 407 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Biden supposed to do in two weeks? Honey, it hasn't 408 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: been Come on, it's been nearly fi It's been fifty 409 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: years and two weeks. How about that. Biden has been 410 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: in office only I think three months longer than Roe 411 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: had been the law of the land. So it has 412 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: not been two weeks. It has been fifty years. But 413 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: you know what, let's let's start it he was inaugurated. 414 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: So it's been eighteen months. You want to go to 415 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: when the league happened. It's been six weeks and no 416 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: calculation has been been two weeks. To stop acting like 417 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: this is a tornado. Nobody saw it coming get out 418 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: of here. But that I mean, but that's it, that's 419 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: what That's what pisses. But that's what gets people so 420 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: pissed off. And then when you have the audacity to 421 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: come out and talk and speak against this administration, and 422 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: I love what you said earlier, Renee, which is like 423 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: when people say, well, why don't you go I get 424 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: the same bullshit. Why don't you go hard on Republicans? 425 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: I go hard on Republicans all day long. But Republicans 426 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: didn't promise us shit right. Republicans have contented continually and 427 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: consistently shown us who they are. It is the party 428 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: who tells us that they are better, that they have 429 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: the shared the shared values with us, that continue to 430 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: lie to us. Right. So like, I can't I can't 431 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: go after the person that is telling me to my face, 432 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: you ain't shit right and I don't even see your humanity. 433 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna allow the person who tells me no, no, 434 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: no rainbows, black fists, all of these things. We're with you, 435 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: but we're with you for a slogan and then go away. 436 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: Then after that you become a problem. And that's where 437 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: that's where my other point, right, kind of one other point. 438 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: The two who were speaking, who said this in the article, 439 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: calling us out of step, I want to be clear 440 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: that they's are white women. Those are white women speaking, 441 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: two women of color who have been the backbone of 442 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: not only this party but the abortion rights movement for 443 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: so long. Come on, how do you call yourself an 444 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: ally to folks of color and to black folks when 445 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: we ask you for something and you shut us down, 446 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: calling us activists as if that's some sort of derogatory word. 447 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: Who's out of step? Activists are the only ones that 448 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: I've ever gotten anything done in this country. I like 449 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: the levels to how disrespectful those comments were. On a 450 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: race level and on this like a cilevel, Yes, on 451 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: a race level, on a class level, yep, yep. Anyway, 452 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: we're in the right. Yes, on the ground. Yes, and 453 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: at some point, at some point, those decision makers in 454 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party will follow along. And I want to 455 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: be clear there are some super badasses in the Democratic 456 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Party who are doing the work. And that is happens 457 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: to actually be a whole bunch of the representatives who've 458 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: had abortions, right, Representative Corey Bush, Representative Barbara League. Right, 459 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: then we've got Representative Iada Presley, Senator Elizabeth Warren, Representative 460 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: alc Right, Like, we've got folks who are doing the work. 461 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's huge and important, and so I 462 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: don't want to paint them all day, call them out 463 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: and not paint people with a bribe brush. But the 464 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: reality is is how often in every other issue, not 465 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: just proportion, they are also told they're out of step 466 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to immigration, when it comes to racial justice, 467 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to voting rights. You know, and it 468 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: marked my words when in November they don't get the 469 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: turnout that they want because historically that's what happens in 470 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: mid terms. But also because you didn't do anything about 471 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: erasing student debt, you didn't do anything to make it 472 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: easier for people to vote, You didn't do anything on 473 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: pay leaves. You got none of it because John Mansion 474 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: and Kirsen Cinemas did in the way, not activists. I 475 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: didn't even really like the build back better. I thought 476 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: it was milktoast, but you know what was helping on 477 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: it made the phone calls. I don't even have to 478 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: senators because I live in DC. I feel like I 479 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: don't even have representation, and I'm still doing the work 480 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: of it because you don't do anything about sayhood, I 481 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: would love it, but you don't do anything about stayhood. 482 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: So they don't do anything about all these things, right, 483 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: and then when they get, as historically happens, the low 484 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: turnout in the midtterm, they're going to blame the board 485 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: because they've always done that. And I even there's an 486 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: article that came out in Vice this morning where Barbara 487 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: Boxer said that people were it's because you know, people 488 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: sat at home and didn't vote. And I'm so glad 489 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: that the reporter, Paul Blessed, he's real good. Um the 490 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: piece of advice. He pointed out that she's actually wrong 491 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: in that some of the highest voting numbers have happened 492 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. So don't sit here 493 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: and blame the voter turnout. Yeah, actually, you all not 494 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: actually doing anything with the power that you have. People 495 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: are voting and you are not making it easier for 496 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: more people to vote. So I'm not going to accept 497 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: it because the numbers. The numbers don't lie people politicians do. 498 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: We're in Bracey Sherman. Let me tell you something. I 499 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: know that you are tired, but let me tell you something. 500 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: By the end of this interview, you were clearly not 501 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: You clearly have much fire. I'm tired and angry. 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