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Speaker 1: it up for an hour. This is gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: We disagree strongly on a couple of things. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna like one of my comps today. But let's
Speaker 1: just start talking about me. Yes, Tom Brady, it's just start.
Speaker 2: You know what can we I have a confession to
Speaker 2: make and then you do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2: I did something wholly unprofessional today, the guy under the
Speaker 2: guise of complimenting and congratulating my friend, which is the
Speaker 2: moment Collin's show went to break. When I knew for
Speaker 2: a fact he was within arms distance of Tom Brady
Speaker 2: and I assumed all of our bosses. I made the
Speaker 2: most opportunity mystic FaceTime call of my life.
Speaker 3: It was they facetimed Colin because I knew he was
Speaker 3: he was with Brady, and I'm like, this might be
Speaker 3: my best chance, just because if I'm being honest, you
Speaker 3: know you said you you know you had a few
Speaker 3: cameos in one of Brady's documentaries.
Speaker 2: I damn near deserve royalties for how often I was
Speaker 2: suppered and saying, oh, the end is nigh, and then
Speaker 2: he'd win a championship. And so I was hoping to
Speaker 2: maybe be like, Hi, Tom, We'd love to have you
Speaker 2: on the show sometime, but either way, glad you're a teammate.
Speaker 2: And Colin graciously answered the call while he was basking
Speaker 2: in the afterglow of thirty minutes with Tom. But I
Speaker 2: didn't get that chance. But now go ahead, and that
Speaker 2: I've made that confession, go ahead and say what you
Speaker 2: know your.
Speaker 1: Day with no Well, what was? It was funny because
Speaker 1: you know I I've said before the only time not
Speaker 1: that I got nervous, but when I was doing Barack
Speaker 1: Obama twice, I came in and really prepared, like if
Speaker 1: he threw me a curveball, even political, like I preped
Speaker 1: for that for two days. And with Brady, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel I had to, but I knew the bosses would
Speaker 1: be watching. So the day starts and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing management all over the studio. I'm like, guys,
Speaker 1: I got this, don't forget to do and remember, and
Speaker 1: I'm like I started laughing at him. I'm like, you guys,
Speaker 1: come down here for one reason you're firing me, or
Speaker 1: I've got like somebody important on I've been doing.
Speaker 2: This thirty years. I'm good.
Speaker 1: It's Tom Brady, Tommy talks.
Speaker 2: We're all good.
Speaker 1: But it was funny to watch, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: because Brady's important for the company, and you know they
Speaker 1: it's a big move. He's Tom Brady, it's Fox, it's
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, Greg Golsen was terrific, so you
Speaker 1: want to make sure he's good. They'll I think they'll
Speaker 1: both be great. But there's just a lot of things
Speaker 1: going on here. So it was kind of a funny,
Speaker 1: strangely tense day. But the great part about it is Tom,
Speaker 1: for all that hovers around him, is just about as
Speaker 1: normal as you're gonna get jeans, tennis shoes, you know,
Speaker 1: just comes in, He's like, hey, it's great to meet you.
Speaker 1: Just Tom's like a nice guy. He really you can
Speaker 1: you know how you've met people before and you think
Speaker 1: more they must have had good parents, sure, right, Like
Speaker 1: you can tell he's just very very grounded. I mean,
Speaker 1: everywhere Tom goes, people are reaching at him and he
Speaker 1: just he's he just couldn't be more normal nice.
Speaker 2: So here's so I I you know, my experience with
Speaker 2: the interviews obviously exponentially different than yours. You're doing it,
Speaker 2: I'm watching it, but my takeaway was different. And I
Speaker 2: think that you and I both have enough credibility with
Speaker 2: the audience built up to know like, we're not shills
Speaker 2: for anybody, We're gonna be honest about what we think.
Speaker 2: But I found myself edge of my seat is probably
Speaker 2: touch too strong, but leaning in to every time he
Speaker 2: was even coming close to breaking down how he thought
Speaker 2: about football, and it made me really excited for how
Speaker 2: he's gonna call games, because there is this school of
Speaker 2: thought and Tom said it in in a kind of
Speaker 2: a kind way, but a lot of people are there
Speaker 2: is a school of thought among some people that think
Speaker 2: the play by play in the color commentator is almost
Speaker 2: an overstated importance job because people are watching the game.
Speaker 2: People want to see the game, and I understand that
Speaker 2: in a lot of instances, and a lot of instances
Speaker 2: I think it doesn't matter who's calling the game. We're
Speaker 2: watching the game. But I found myself just in this
Speaker 2: interview being like, oh, I really want to learn about
Speaker 2: how he processed and how his mind works when it
Speaker 2: comes to playing the quarterback position and the stuff he
Speaker 2: was saying about the how he would react to a
Speaker 2: different defensive look, and the pregame prep that it took
Speaker 2: all of that, and it made me super excited for
Speaker 2: to hear him in real time, to watch a football
Speaker 2: game and get to see because this is and now
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be self important, You're gonna laugh at me.
Speaker 2: I think I really, I think I am an elite
Speaker 2: football watcher. And by that I mean I think I
Speaker 2: am top one percent in the world at watching a
Speaker 2: game and noticing things like oh, I think that guy
Speaker 2: might have just tweaked something. Oh I think they misspoted,
Speaker 2: the all of it. And to be able to see
Speaker 2: watch a game and that Tom's watching and commenting on
Speaker 2: and see how many times like what he said, like
Speaker 2: oh I was thinking something similar or I had that.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited for it, like I am. I do
Speaker 2: think it is a massive It is having you know
Speaker 2: there we've at We had Magic Johnson call NBA games,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't really his strength, like having someone like that,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna add one other thing. I also think
Speaker 2: a uniqueness of it is so much of his superpower
Speaker 2: was his processing, so it's less about I was able
Speaker 2: to do it because, like, I'll use Terry. I know
Speaker 2: Terry doesn't call games. Anyone that's ever been a rheum
Speaker 2: with Terry Bradshaw, it's like, oh, a lot of the
Speaker 2: reason you're Terry Bradshaw is because I don't know how
Speaker 2: old he is. But even at this age, you could
Speaker 2: kick everybody's ass in this room, except for Howie Long.
Speaker 2: Like you are a big, strong and you know the
Speaker 2: But so much of Tom is I outthought, out prepared.
Speaker 2: So I and I that came across in the thirty
Speaker 2: minutes you spent with him. I was worried you were
Speaker 2: going to take the interview into the first hour of
Speaker 2: First things first. I didn't think you were ever going
Speaker 2: to break. I was like, we might not be on
Speaker 2: the air today.
Speaker 1: Boys, Yeah, no, it's I kind of feel like this
Speaker 1: sounds weird, But every time I interview Tom, I feel
Speaker 1: it's a chapter. So I tried to stay today because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna interview him several more times. I tried to
Speaker 1: stay in his I talked a lot about process today
Speaker 1: about broadcasting number one receivers offensive line, so I wanted
Speaker 1: him to talk about process today as a season comes
Speaker 1: upon us, it'll be more about the game the moment.
Speaker 1: But I like today today all I thought about was
Speaker 1: I want to I want to introduce Tom how he
Speaker 1: thinks to the audience. This is a process day, and
Speaker 1: he just tends to be the best processed athlete have
Speaker 1: we have we've ever had.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you know how you said you're a one percent
Speaker 1: football watcher. Yeah. So football is such a collation aberration
Speaker 1: sport that it is hard. That's why excellent gms can
Speaker 1: struggle on quarterbacks, first round wide receivers, first round tight ends.
Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever noticed the position that rarely
Speaker 1: misses in the first round? It's guard center, because that's
Speaker 1: if you have a weakness, you're protected. It's a strong unit.
Speaker 1: But a quarterback, a wide receiver, you're often doing your
Speaker 1: own thing, a corner And so in football, even though
Speaker 1: I love the sport, it is hard to project how
Speaker 1: quarterbacks will work within the collaboration and the system. Are
Speaker 1: they smart enough? Are they coachable? Are they defensive insecure?
Speaker 1: Are they confident but not cocky? I think in basketball,
Speaker 1: though it's my second favorite sport to all footballs, I
Speaker 1: am pretty accurate on something. Is that because it's an
Speaker 1: more independent sport. I really pay attention to personality and
Speaker 1: interviews and how you respond to questions. And a European
Speaker 1: player just because the culture is different than a domestic player.
Speaker 1: It's just different, the way they're taught, the way they
Speaker 1: grow up. They drink wine, they smoke more often. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a different culture. They tend to come in speaking
Speaker 1: multiple languages. You know, the European Union, it's you're kind
Speaker 1: of it's a collective, whereas in America it's the South
Speaker 1: is different than the West, is different than the Northeast.
Speaker 1: It's the French school system. There's a lot of there's different.
Speaker 1: So I look at personalities and I've been right on
Speaker 1: a lot of players very early. Whereas I didn't buy Westbrook.
Speaker 1: I was very much don't buy Intomelo as a winning
Speaker 1: player or Derek Rose.
Speaker 2: And the.
Speaker 1: Avalanche of criticism comes down that you don't know the sport,
Speaker 1: you don't watch it. But I think personality matters more
Speaker 1: in basketball because the individual matters so much more. It's
Speaker 1: not as big a collective. The Celtics are very unique.
Speaker 1: It's a collection more than it is a star. And
Speaker 1: this is where you and I disagree with Luca. I
Speaker 1: think you can coach people out of virtually anything except indifference,
Speaker 1: and I believe he is such an offensive prodigy, he
Speaker 1: is indifferent to defense and it will never be great.
Speaker 1: Now now you say, well, well, Kobe became a very
Speaker 1: good defensive player. Kobe's idol was Michael Jordan, who is
Speaker 1: a great defensive player. So players that idolized Michael all
Speaker 1: played defense. Most of them played the guys. The Kobe's
Speaker 1: Michael played defense. That was part of his aura was
Speaker 1: he was a hard ass. Who is Luca? Who is
Speaker 1: his idol? Who is his is? I think he has
Speaker 1: much more in common with Melo that he is so
Speaker 1: gifted offensively. Mellow was better than Lebron offensively from initially
Speaker 1: he was just more better scorer that that. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that you'll ever convince Luca the defense man.
Speaker 2: So here's so, here's where I'm gonna push back. So
Speaker 2: Luca is on the record when he came into the
Speaker 2: league that he grew up idolizing Lebron. Lebron is who
Speaker 2: he modeled his game after. And you see it now.
Speaker 2: He then signed with Jordan Brand and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he's an mj Acolyte. It's amazing how that works out.
Speaker 2: But one when when Luca was, you know, unsullied by endorsement,
Speaker 2: he was a big Lebron guy. Now Luca is never
Speaker 2: going to be the athlete Lebron is like that, I
Speaker 2: I really And by the way, nobody is I am.
Speaker 1: Anyone.
Speaker 2: Hurlabab vulgaris who now owns a talk about the Golden Life. Man.
Speaker 2: Guy was a professional gambler, greatest NBA better of all time,
Speaker 2: made maybe a billion that's probably oversetting him, but close
Speaker 2: to it in crypto from his gambling winnings. Bought a
Speaker 2: Spanish soccer team and now they've moved up multiple divisions.
Speaker 2: What a life. But he also helped run the MAVs
Speaker 2: when they drafted Luca. Hralabab tweeted out a clip a
Speaker 2: few days ago of twenty five year old Lebron James,
Speaker 2: like a four minute clip of his blocks and dunks
Speaker 2: and everything, like reminding everyone, like, guys, what this guy
Speaker 2: was at his peak athleticism. It was just it was
Speaker 2: un unfathomable and we haven't seen any like it since.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lebron is the only guarantee in American sports history.
Speaker 1: Let's just do basketball football. Yeah that there is no
Speaker 1: question that if he has chosen football, he would have
Speaker 1: been a multiple time Pro Bowl Oh yeah, no question,
Speaker 1: no question, not even debatable. He would have been one
Speaker 1: of the best tight ends of all time. Let's stop
Speaker 1: debating it. Six ' eight two fifty, fast, with great hands, envision, and.
Speaker 2: Seemingly indestructible for fifteen for seventeen years. But okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so there are obviously things Lebron could do that Luca
Speaker 2: never will be able to do because of the athleticism.
Speaker 2: But stylistically they're very similar. As far as I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have the ball in my hands, i am going to
Speaker 2: control an offense. I will try to pick on people
Speaker 2: in a pick and roll. I will spoon feed players
Speaker 2: open threes and lob dunks like all of it. He's
Speaker 2: not gonna be the defender Lebron was. There was a
Speaker 2: five year period with Lebron was one of the every
Speaker 2: year was top five defensive player the year voting and
Speaker 2: I think twice or three times second place. It's not
Speaker 2: gonna be that guy. My argument is he doesn't need
Speaker 2: to be. Can't can can Luca be Steph Kerr? Defensively? Obviously,
Speaker 2: Can he be Magic Johnson defensively? Obviously? Has he already
Speaker 2: shown improvement for Romeros a few years ago? Yes, the
Speaker 2: the so I think that. So here's what I think
Speaker 2: about Luca. I think that his bad defensive moments are
Speaker 2: so glaring and obvious because he's just not running down
Speaker 2: the court. He is just standing there. He's angry, he's
Speaker 2: and I also think every game he walks a fine
Speaker 2: line between I Am going to get so enraged with
Speaker 2: every fan, every ref that I end up playing my
Speaker 2: best basketball and I'm going to get so enraged with
Speaker 2: every fan, every ref that it takes me out of
Speaker 2: my game and I'm like almost playing in protest. He's
Speaker 2: got to mature in that regard. But the part of
Speaker 2: the mellow thing that I the reason I pushed back
Speaker 2: so much on that comp is, is that Luca already
Speaker 2: has done more winning than Melo did. Luca made the
Speaker 2: Melo made a conference finals once. Luca did that in
Speaker 2: year four. Luca's already made an NBA finals. And he
Speaker 2: is a willing passer of the ball and the guys
Speaker 2: who and a guy who has people bring up Harden
Speaker 2: because Harden was a willing passer of the ball the
Speaker 2: hardon though every single year of his career got worse
Speaker 2: than the playoffs, Luca, every year of his career except
Speaker 2: for this one, his numbers have gotten better in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So I just think that there was there was never
Speaker 2: a moment where Mello was credibly a consensus top three player.
Speaker 2: Luca is right now, and so I just I disagree
Speaker 2: with you on Luis.
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, by the way I've said, I think
Speaker 1: Luca is a much better Carmelo Anthony. By the way,
Speaker 1: Michael was a better Kobe, not always much better, but better.
Speaker 1: Kobe had better range. I thought Kobe was a really
Speaker 1: clever passer when he decided to a very good ball handler.
Speaker 1: Michael was a better Kobe. I think Luca is a
Speaker 1: much better Carmelo. But there are traits and indifference to
Speaker 1: certain things like being in shape, indeed so concerned.
Speaker 2: Being in shape thing. He has to grow up on
Speaker 2: that part. That part. So here's the deal. I think
Speaker 2: that there is. I think it is very very difficult
Speaker 2: for people who have succeeded at every step. I mean,
Speaker 2: this guy's playing in the second biggest league in the
Speaker 2: world at sixteen and one MVP of it, at eighteen,
Speaker 2: like and won the championship at eighteen, not in some
Speaker 2: small league, in the second best basketball league in the world,
Speaker 2: to the NBA. He then gets to the NBA, wins
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year and then succeed succeeds carries a
Speaker 2: team to conference finals. Last year they fail, but it
Speaker 2: feels more about the team. Was weird that he and
Speaker 2: Kyrie did in gel This year they make it all
Speaker 2: the way to the finals, and yes he was banged up,
Speaker 2: but he also knows he was a little out of gas.
Speaker 2: I think it is very hard for any if anyone
Speaker 2: has a bad habit that they are succeeding despite, I
Speaker 2: don't think they ever kick it until that bad habit bites.
Speaker 1: I said, yep, I've said before. The only way you
Speaker 1: quit smoking is if your doctor says you're going.
Speaker 2: To die right then. And there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: who I'm gonna gain used we were using dark analogies.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people listening who were what
Speaker 2: I I'm sure what I would call very regular tipsy drivers.
Speaker 2: It was just I, you know, never didn't call cabs whatever.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh my buddies, have a few drinks, drive home,
Speaker 2: and did it hundreds of times and never were and
Speaker 2: people were like, ah, you shouldn't drive and only stopped
Speaker 2: because they got pulled over and they got a dui
Speaker 2: like there is And again that's a dark analogy, but
Speaker 2: the point is it is if someone says to you,
Speaker 2: you've got to be in better shape, You've got to
Speaker 2: be in better shape, and you're like, oh, really, because
Speaker 2: I keep averaging thirty five points a game in the
Speaker 2: playoffs and being first team All NBA. But this year
Speaker 2: and this year, I know they made the finals, but
Speaker 2: he did seem out of gas at times, and so
Speaker 2: in order to be able to play one hundred game seasons,
Speaker 2: which is what he's got to do, he does have
Speaker 2: to be in better shape. That part's fair, and he
Speaker 2: can't always be mad at the refs that part. But
Speaker 2: I just think the reason I thought the focus on
Speaker 2: the defense was overstated was that MAVs didn't lose this
Speaker 2: finals because of the defense the MAVs. This craziest stat
Speaker 2: of the NBA season is the worst five game stretch
Speaker 2: Boston had all year as far as points scored, was
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. They didn't have another five game stretch
Speaker 2: all year where they scored for killing and they killed
Speaker 2: the bosson. The MAVs didn't lose because of their defense.
Speaker 2: They lost because they couldn't score, which was because of
Speaker 2: Boston's defense. It was mav It wasn't that Dallas's defense
Speaker 2: was a problem. It was that Boston's defense was a
Speaker 2: plus for four of those five games and strangled the
Speaker 2: MAVs offense.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw this at you. There's so many
Speaker 1: bad actors on the internet. It's so bad, it's.
Speaker 2: Sweet christ Man. Can I tell you what happened before
Speaker 2: you even throw it at me? Because I don't think
Speaker 2: people know what happened because there there's always been bad actors,
Speaker 2: but it seems like out of nowhere it has gotten
Speaker 2: way worse quickly. And I it so I have, I
Speaker 2: think a very credible theory here. So remember how Elon
Speaker 2: made it so you can get paid off your tweets.
Speaker 2: So I don't think people really paid a lot of
Speaker 2: attention to that because people were like, I'm not paying
Speaker 2: for that eight dollars a month check mark whatever. But
Speaker 2: so some of us a few months ago just got great,
Speaker 2: like got the check mark. It's like you're a notable account.
Speaker 2: We want you to have one whatever it is, So
Speaker 2: I didn't. I just got it. I got a I
Speaker 2: got a notification a week ago saying you earned eight
Speaker 2: hundred and ten dollars last month. Huh so, and I
Speaker 2: just tweet clips from the show and my.
Speaker 1: Takes same here.
Speaker 2: But because I got grandfathered into this program or whatever
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's monetization is available. So I guess if
Speaker 2: I give them my bank account info, which I don't
Speaker 2: know that I will do, but if I I have
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars from my tweets in May, okay, So
Speaker 2: why am I to bring that up? That didn't used
Speaker 2: to be a thing. It used to be you could
Speaker 2: grow a following and then maybe sell ads whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But now it is direct deposit into your account based
Speaker 2: on interactions of your tweets. So now you have the
Speaker 2: worst actors in America who are incentivized to say the
Speaker 2: shittiest things or dishonest things, or like the totally harmless
Speaker 2: version of it is. Oh man, people forget Peyton Pritchard
Speaker 2: is a problem like saying things just to get dunked on,
Speaker 2: like people said Steph Curry can't. But the worst version
Speaker 2: of it is I am going to try to stoke
Speaker 2: racial tension in America through this video that will go
Speaker 2: viral because I'm literally going to make a thousand bucks
Speaker 2: off it. So that's not Yeah, that's not a theory.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what's happening. Yes, that that's not Listen, I'm
Speaker 2: not you know me, I make fun of conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 2: I have a theory on conspiracy theories that the as
Speaker 2: the world get AI is just going to enhance this.
Speaker 2: We're going to get more and more conspiracy theories because
Speaker 2: there's been an explosion of them. Why because the fluidity
Speaker 2: and the changes that technology are doing to our life,
Speaker 2: and people want answers, and so when people don't have answers,
Speaker 2: they lose their job. Inflation, people are seeking stability and
Speaker 2: foundational truths and they don't have answers. So conspiracy theories
Speaker 2: give people answers. Is their life gets more filled with anxiety.
Speaker 2: Psychologists have talked about.
Speaker 1: This technology is enhanced and dominates our society, you're going
Speaker 1: to get a more conspiracy driven in.
Speaker 2: This is not from conspiracy theory. This is what's now.
Speaker 1: This is just yeah, this is what. So what's happening
Speaker 1: is as AI is going to put a lot of
Speaker 1: people out of work. Social media is going to become
Speaker 1: a real income for a lot of people. I all, Bee,
Speaker 1: as you know, I make a massive TV income, radio income,
Speaker 1: volume income, DraftKings like, I don't need social media. There's
Speaker 1: no value in it for me other than to.
Speaker 2: Promote my companies, right exactly right, right right right, So
Speaker 2: there's no I don't even care about it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me. But for a lot of
Speaker 1: people that even successful people, they don't have a radio show,
Speaker 1: a TV show, they make six figures on social media.
Speaker 2: If I could make a thousand bucks in a month
Speaker 2: by accident, right then I'm like, oh that, I was like,
Speaker 2: so just think. I was like, what the average the
Speaker 2: average income in this country is like around fifty I'm like,
Speaker 2: so then, yeah, of course there are going to be
Speaker 2: people out there that are just going to all and
Speaker 2: what what do we know gets interaction and reaction because
Speaker 2: I don't know if you were taking this to Caitlin
Speaker 2: and Angel, I don't know where you were taking this initially,
Speaker 2: but what I know what we know will make waves
Speaker 2: on Twitter in particular, is anything to doing with racial
Speaker 2: tension or racial or they in either direction and I
Speaker 2: just I see people tweeting out videos of clearly like
Speaker 2: obvious like skits like old skits or scenes from an
Speaker 2: old not Chappelle show, but something less famous, and presenting
Speaker 2: it as if this was a real life thing that
Speaker 2: happened purely because idiots will believe it. People who aren't
Speaker 2: full blown idiots will think, oh, I'm going to dunk
Speaker 2: on this person. Meanwhile, they're just like, I just made
Speaker 2: forty bucks. I do ten of these in a day,
Speaker 2: and I make more money than I was gonna make
Speaker 2: up my job, and it is just flooded. They have
Speaker 2: flooded the song with nonsense and bullshit.
Speaker 1: By the way, there are people in our industry who
Speaker 1: have credible jobs who are using YouTube to the same degree,
Speaker 1: making thirty thousand dollars on a YouTube clip talking about
Speaker 1: their sex, life, politics, all sorts of stuff. So it's
Speaker 1: some point your soul can't your foundational belief system can't
Speaker 1: be about the dollar sign like you have to care about.
Speaker 1: And I'm not lecturing you folks, do what you want
Speaker 1: to do. But here's where I was going. Sorry I
Speaker 1: took you, Oh no, don't be sorry. This is this
Speaker 1: is why I do. A podcast is that there's so
Speaker 1: many bad actors on the internet that will just dunk
Speaker 1: on the NBA. They don't care. They got their money.
Speaker 1: When I hear people criticize Howard Stern, Howard makes one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million a year at sirius XM. Do
Speaker 1: you think he gives a shit that he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the water cooler currency. He's got a seventy to ninety
Speaker 1: million dollar home on the beach. I've seen it in
Speaker 1: Boca ratone the highest. He's got the two highest real
Speaker 1: estate properties in the East, the Hampton sag Harbor and
Speaker 1: Boca Howard owns arguably the nicest home in both. He
Speaker 1: doesn't give an f And people are like, Howard doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. And I think about this, like the
Speaker 1: NBA got the bag they're gonna get. They're doing basically
Speaker 1: what the NFL did. They're going to get a fourth
Speaker 1: network to arguably overpay for it. They don't care. The
Speaker 1: ratings are up to the people who pay for the money.
Speaker 1: That's up to NBCESBN, the owners in the league and
Speaker 1: the players don't give us shit. Don't watch it, they
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 2: So there were a lot of people highly invested in
Speaker 2: the idea that any company that pays even just lip
Speaker 2: service to the idea that you know, black folks spend
Speaker 2: money to and gay folks spend money to that that
Speaker 2: business model will fucking ruin them. And they even came
Speaker 2: up with a super unique, original one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: iq slogan, go Meanwhile, we're at zero broke, We're at
Speaker 2: zero Companies that previously were rolling that are now like, goddamn,
Speaker 2: you know what, we put Black Lives Matter on the court,
Speaker 2: and now no one will, nobody's going to games. And
Speaker 2: they then try to twist themselves in knots and act
Speaker 2: like that, oh they they're not doing it, or oh
Speaker 2: it caught, No it didn't. There is I now again,
Speaker 2: because I am not a bad faith actor, I will acknowledge.
Speaker 2: I do think there was a time, and I do
Speaker 2: think it hurt the ratings in multiple sports where people
Speaker 2: felt there was too much, like we had overcorrected and
Speaker 2: there was there was too much, whether you want to
Speaker 2: call it politics, social justice, anything in our sports and
Speaker 2: people got annoyed by it. I do think that happened,
Speaker 2: but was presented as if it's going to be a
Speaker 2: death knell when it was a paper cut and the
Speaker 2: and it was the same folks that and I the
Speaker 2: that when Nike uh signed Kaepernick, We're like, oh, check
Speaker 2: out Nike's stock today, It's like, oh, can we get
Speaker 2: an update on that? Hey, can we get a good
Speaker 2: Did Nike all of a sudden in the last four
Speaker 2: years start flying MAGA flags or are they still pretty
Speaker 2: much as woke of a company as there is? I
Speaker 2: think they are. I think they're doing just fine. And
Speaker 2: and it is And this is where the people making
Speaker 2: that those arguments were either bad faith actors or morons.
Speaker 2: And I am that one. I'm comfortable with the the
Speaker 2: people making the argument of the NBA is killing big
Speaker 2: trup in big trumple like buddy, you could were the
Speaker 2: ratings for this specific finals down? Yeah, in the midst
Speaker 2: of it being down? Did they get seventy five billion dollars?
Speaker 2: Did they triple their TV deal? Was it was? It?
Speaker 2: Was it extortion? No, In fact, you have you have company,
Speaker 2: you have major corporations who might end up making changes
Speaker 2: at the top of the company because they screwed up
Speaker 2: by not getting the NBA. So it was always bad faith.
Speaker 2: It was just always bad faith actors that don't ever
Speaker 2: that are very, very invested in the idea that everyone
Speaker 2: thinks like them. That's the that is the that's the
Speaker 2: So I'm aware like I and I try to be
Speaker 2: self aware of it, and I try to be conscious
Speaker 2: of it. I'm aware that a lot of people who
Speaker 2: watched the TV show have very different politics than I do,
Speaker 2: which is why I think I keep it out of
Speaker 2: it almost entirely. As I've said to you before, I
Speaker 2: don't think talking about race is talking politics, so I
Speaker 2: will talk race, So I'm talking any politics on when
Speaker 2: you and I are talking, even though I understand there
Speaker 2: are people listening that have very different politics to me,
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know what you are opting into
Speaker 2: a Nick Wright Colin Cowhard conversation. I am going to
Speaker 2: respect that and give you my true, authentic thoughts on everything,
Speaker 2: and hope we can understand that even if we disagree,
Speaker 2: we can you know, agree on other certain things. But
Speaker 2: I know that how I feel is not how the
Speaker 2: whole world feels. There is a segment of the population
Speaker 2: that is really invested in trying to convince people that
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the country plus agrees with them, and
Speaker 2: this tiny minority that doesn't. Somehow oddly weirdly controls everything,
Speaker 2: controls all these major corporations in the sports leagues, the media, everything,
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, I just think Target has like
Speaker 2: done the market research. It's like, hey, we're gonna sell
Speaker 2: more T shirts if people think we're nice. Like, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's they're trying to do some social engineering.
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to sell as many things as possible.
Speaker 2: And so that's yeah, that's my answer.
Speaker 1: Listen, even left leaning, I would say Saturday Night Live
Speaker 1: tends to lean more left than right. They've made fun
Speaker 1: of woke. Bill Maher's made fun of woke, like there
Speaker 1: are things that God that go too far?
Speaker 2: Is that, you know.
Speaker 1: My theory on America is that in the end, the
Speaker 1: more change you have in technology and the more change
Speaker 1: you have in the culture, the more people want a
Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly sandwich, macaroni and cheese and hang
Speaker 1: out with their dog. We seek simplicity as the world
Speaker 1: gets more complex. So I think, to me, one of
Speaker 1: the things I think about constantly on my show is
Speaker 1: simplifying complicated things. Is that people are on right, Like
Speaker 1: that's literally what I think about. You know, whatever you
Speaker 1: think about I think about that constantly.
Speaker 2: Which is why, which is a very smart way to
Speaker 2: go about it. But so that's where so I have,
Speaker 2: I hope the self awareness and the honesty to be
Speaker 2: able to be like, yeah, there are things that people
Speaker 2: that are in my political tribe, if you will, that
Speaker 2: they say or espouse that. I'm like, yeah, I actually
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not with that, like like it doesn't kill me,
Speaker 2: but I you know, it's not where I would go
Speaker 2: what I what I feel like fundamentally though, most people,
Speaker 2: most people are more bothered by people that intentionally err
Speaker 2: on the side of mean then people that go out
Speaker 2: of their way to be nice, even if the way
Speaker 2: they're going out of their way to be nice, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's a little much, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: and and that's to me, that's why so I that
Speaker 2: that's why so much of the so much of the
Speaker 2: complaints about the NBA stuff was to me, people telling
Speaker 2: on themselves where I'm like, you're really are you You're
Speaker 2: writing on Twitter you saw end racism on the baseline
Speaker 2: where there used to be a YouTube TV ad and
Speaker 2: now you're like I'm turning the game off, like shut up,
Speaker 2: like it was if it was if at halftime of
Speaker 2: the game, you know, Jason Tatum came out, was like,
Speaker 2: now I want to, you know, give you a history
Speaker 2: lesson about this. That'd be one thing. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just think you are. You are bothered by an
Speaker 2: idea that you can't quite explain, and it pisses you off.
Speaker 2: You don't know why, And I think the smartest corporations
Speaker 2: and companies have been like, ah, that's actually just a
Speaker 2: loud contingent on the Internet, and the majority of people
Speaker 2: are either support us or like, eh, not my thing,
Speaker 2: but not enough for me to change the channel, or
Speaker 2: not enough for me to drive to the store down
Speaker 2: the street when this one, you know, oh they're flying
Speaker 2: a Pride flag. Okay, well I actually they also have
Speaker 2: the cheapest diapers, so I just think I'm gonna go there,
Speaker 2: Like it's just so stupid the volume.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to part one of the conversations with Nick.
Speaker 1: Don't forget the check back for part two.