WEBVTT - Divorce Dynasty: Inside Kyle and Mauricio's Billion Dollar Empire 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:05.200 Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings, 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.000 the King of Reality TV and one of the most 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:12.639 sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.759 years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.239 the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:24.600 entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:31.040 moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Watch Hey, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.840 rain Drives Today's episode of Reality with the King. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:36.680 It's a little bit different. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.559 Sure, I can recap episodes here and there, and we 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.320 can have a good key key about it, Darling, But 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.960 the beauty of Reality with the King, with me being 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.320 a producer in this business, is I like to go 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.599 a little bit deeper when it comes to the. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.160 Psyche of our favorite reality stars. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.440 So in this episode, we gotta do a deep dive 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:02.520 into Billy Hills. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:03.720 The Realhouse Boss at. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.520 Billy Hills is a show that I think we really 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:13.400 need to do a deep dive into the psyche of 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.480 these women, the women in Beverly Hills. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.119 When it comes to the Mauricio Morgan. 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:25.080 Wade and Kyle Trifecta and I have a very special 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:29.400 guest to break in on down Now listen here, rain Drops. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.000 She needs no introduction, but I'll do it anyway. Her 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.480 name is Annie Elise and she's the creator of the 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.040 true crime YouTube channel, tent to Life and the Cereal 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.759 Sleep cerial Lesslie. Look, I'm saying it wrong because it's 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.080 so it's like a talk twister, but it's cereal and 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:52.960 all caps lessly podcasts and honey, she is super smart, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.960 super dynamic, and I'm so happy she gets to join 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.280 this podcast. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:03.560 So rain Drop give a war Welcome to any elits. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.880 Hi, thank you so much for having me. That was 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.240 such a good, like heype man intro, I appreciate it. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.040 That was great. I'm so happy to be here. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.280 So before we get started, explain to my rain drops 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.160 who are living under rock who may not know of 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.880 your podcast. Explain to those very few people what you'll 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.600 podcast is about what they can't expect from it and 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.160 how they can find, subscribe and like it. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.640 Yeah. So basically, my podcast, Cereal Leslie is a true 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.040 crime podcast. But when I created it, I felt like 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.120 there was kind of this void in the space of 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.480 hearing about these cases for people who are interested in 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.480 true crime. In more of a non sterile, non clinical 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.320 way almost where if you've ever watched a Dateline episode 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:51.920 and you're just talking with your friend or for me 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.440 it was always my sister, and you're recapping the case, 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.040 you want to talk about the red flags, you go 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.320 on the social media deep dive all of these things, 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.440 and I never really could find anything where somebody would 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.119 deliver it in that kind of way. So that's why 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.919 I created Cereal Lessly, and so it's more just a casual, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.080 conversational type of way delivering a deep dive into a case. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.440 I go to the trenches of hell when I am researching, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.960 I'm like in the Reddit threads, I'm getting the Foyer requests, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.320 I'm doing the body cam. So it's like I pride 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.400 myself on giving a full deep dive into whatever I'm 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.680 talking about, and again just kind of doing it in 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.000 a way where we can call things like they are, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.799 call out the red flags, call out the shady stuff 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.200 that they were posting on social media, and just talk 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.519 about it like we're friends. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.040 What are your thoughts when it comes to this, Kyle 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:44.200 Morgan Way, Maurice col Trifecta in terms of. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.600 Is there. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.160 Is there steaks happening financially, and by steaks, I mean 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.560 they clearly don't have any money problems. You know that, thankfully, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.840 that's not one problem that I think that household has, right, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:07.040 But more money more problems. Right. So we know that 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:13.000 the agency is a multi gazillion dollar agency, and we 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.520 know that Kyle and Marisio both got their real estate 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:20.880 license together. He left the Hilton Group, started his own 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.039 agency and now has a mass millions, So there's a 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.840 lot of money at stake here. Again, we're talking about 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.400 the nine to two and zero and we're talking about 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:34.200 the psyche of that particular zip code. Do you think 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.800 that when it comes to this very carefully crafted storyline 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.760 with the Umanskis and morgan is a lot of it 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.960 has to do with the protection of assets, the protection 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:49.440 of reputation of these both titans. And that's why we 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:54.240 as an audience are not getting delivered any sort of 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:59.360 real understanding of what went wrong in their twenty plus 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.120 year marriage. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.400 One thousand percent. Just as you had said earlier that 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.680 sometimes with divorce and marriage it's transactional, it's financial, especially 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.880 here in the LA and Orange County area. The same 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.719 goes for when you are married and whether you're getting 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.440 married for financial benefit or divorcing. And it's my belief 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.159 the reason they have not divorced yet is one thousand 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.400 percent related to the assets. I don't know. I would 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.440 imagine that they're smart enough and have gone through enough 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.600 together that even if they didn't have a prenup when 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.400 they got married, I would imagine there's a post nup 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.320 in place. I would just assume that maybe not. I 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:38.920 could be wrong, but my thoughts on the whole Kyle, Morgan, 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.040 Mauricio of it all, I definitely think that there has 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.080 been strained in the marriage for years. Whether that means 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.799 Mauricio has truly been stepping out on her for years 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.800 or something else. I think they have been growing apart. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.440 And again it's one of those things, similar to Dewri 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:58.080 and PK, where you start getting older and your lives change. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.279 You just go through different cycles of life, and I 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.800 think they started to outgrow each other at that same point. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.039 I think that's when Kyle really started confiding in Morgan, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.880 having this friendship with her, and I believe it's my 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.640 belief that there is something more there, or was something more. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.240 I truly believe that because based even not even on 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.880 the rumors, but the chemistry that you see on TV 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:23.560 between the two of them, like when they were in 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.720 that tattoo shop together, when Morgan came to that event 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.080 that Kyle hosted, and when Morico wasn't even there when 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.120 it was for her friend who had taken her own life, 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.640 and you can just see the physical chemistry, the emotional 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.720 chemistry and how Kyle lights up when Morgan's around. Now, 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.839 whether they ever acted on that physically, who knows. It's 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.440 my guess there probably was some degree of something. But 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.760 I think to your point, aside from just financials, it's 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.920 about reputation and there's a lot of things at stake here. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:52.520 As we know. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.360 The climate of the world is not in a great 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.840 condition right now, and Kyle is a public facing person. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.800 And while hopefully the majority of people wouldn't care at 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.480 all if she was in a same sex relationship or 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.240 having that, No, who cares right Hello, it's twenty twenty five. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.280 But I could see where if there are people that 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.880 Mauricio deals with who are maybe more conservative, or if 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.119 there's some reason that she's protecting this. I don't think 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.400 it's because of her daughters, because she's trying to say 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.200 that there's a possibility that they may become a family 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.280 again and reunite. Because the kids are grown, they know 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.960 that that's not happening. They also see this stuff in 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.120 the magazines with Mauricio and his girlfriend, like they know 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.320 that's not the reality. So there's something else. And I 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.240 don't think it's shame or embarrassment either. We've seen way 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.760 worse from all the house. Whis probably even Kyle included, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.080 Like there's some other reason she's trying to protect that. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.520 And in this latest episode, she said something that I 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.080 thought was really interesting. At the dinner, She's like, maybe 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.080 one day I will have a story to tell, maybe 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.320 I will have something to share. And I thought that 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.320 was telling because I was like, ugh, I kind of 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:01.000 clocked that as that's a tell you're right now. To me, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.280 I'm saying that as you're admitting that there is something 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.120 but that you're not ready to share yet, and that 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.800 maybe one day you will be, maybe not on camera, 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.160 maybe not for public consumption. But I think that divide 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.920 started happening, but I think the Mauricio and Kyle divide 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.320 began way before that, and now I think it's just 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.760 they're best friends. They grew up together. They have a 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.920 beautiful family together. It's hard to walk away from that 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.920 and wonder what you're going to do the back half 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.160 of your life. And if there's financials involved, it makes 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.800 it so much more messy. So it's almost like they 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.000 don't want to rip the band aid. Let's just continue 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.520 in this like purgatory of whatever it is and hope 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.360 that we figure out what we want to do. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:54.640 No, spot on, we are just getting started. This is 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.040 reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.960 back into the show. I have updates for you. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:03.440 Annie. You're ready for this, sister. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.360 Oh I let me get a drink of this Stanley 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:07.880 and hit me. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.000 All right, So listen up, Annie and the rain Drops. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.960 Kyle and Mauricio did not have a prenuptial agreement when 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:24.040 they married in nineteen ninety six. More Annie, Okay, okay. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.200 But they got a post shut up. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:30.600 No, no, no, no, no, guess what. Kyle has stated 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:35.520 that they built everything together in their empire, and they 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:41.480 accumulated their wealth journey together. Kyle has indicated that if 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.480 they were to divorce, they would divide their assets evenly. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.920 Kyle has stated that Mauricio did not have much money 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.640 when they married, and that the money they. 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:56.040 Have now is our money. Okay. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.360 Now, before I get your response, I want to also 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.520 read you this, okay. Mauricio co founded the agency in 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:08.520 twenty eleven. The agency has over seventy offices across the 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:15.240 United States, Canada, Mexico, the Netherlands, Tarzan Cacos, the Dominican Republic, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.000 the Cayman Islands, and the Bahamas. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.319 But Annie, there's more. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:30.640 The agency has a global sales volume of fifty seven 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:36.439 zero point four billion dollars since its founding, with Mauricio's 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:41.040 networth allegedly being estimated to have a net worth of 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:48.560 one hundred million dollars. Now you live in the state 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:54.000 of California. Is this true in the state of California? 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:55.599 If you get. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.760 Married with no prenup and you've been married since twenty eleven, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.880 this case that Umanski, So that is fourteen years. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.840 Wait, they've been merry longer than that. They had to 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:07.920 have been, right, I'm I'm. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:08.920 I'm lying, I'm lying. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.880 The agency was found in twenty eleven. I'm so sorry 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:13.840 they got married nineteen ninety six. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.080 My bad, my bad, my bad. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:20.000 Soot fifteen years I know, that's almost like thirty years 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.400 right in the Sanate of California with no prenup. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.520 Are you entitled to at least have. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.400 To my knowledge, yes, I think that there's certain stipulations 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.480 that come into play, where, of course then it's like 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.600 you have alimony, spousal support, child support, things like that. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.000 But to my knowledge anything, it's an equal state. So 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.160 once you divorce anything that any shared assets assets are 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.840 split fifty to fifty. Now, with that amount of wealth, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.439 you would think that even if they're splitting fifty to fifty, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.640 they're both fine. My wonder is, and I'm just kind 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.960 of going off here. I could be wrong, but Kathy 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:00.520 has alluded to certain financial struggles that Mauricio's face. I 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.480 think she also did allude to the fact that some 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:06.280 of these agencies aren't independently owned by him, but rather franchised, 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.720 so that although he says the agency has over seventy locations, 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.240 it's like, yeah, but they're not really all unbrellaed under you. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.840 I don't know if that's true or not, but she 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:19.160 has alluded to there being some financial distress. So even 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.240 if call it one hundred million and they each get 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.880 fifty million, is there a reason why they're not doing that, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.360 because in order to sustain the business or to do 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.000 whatever he's doing on the back end, does he need 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.960 access to more than that? Like, That's what I'm wondering. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:36.960 Is there still a reason even though that is a 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.760 huge number and a lot of money, there must be 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.800 something else why they're not just calling it and divorcing. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.840 I think is more business and transactional. But that's just 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:47.439 my opinion. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.000 There's a lot of money a stake here. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.839 Now, Listen, we all can live off of fifty million 0:12:54.880 --> 0:13:02.880 dollars each, right, it's nothing to sneeze at. But I 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.440 just believe that at the end of the day, and 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.559 we're kind of seeing this a little bit with something 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.000 who gets three hundred and fifty thousand dollars per month 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.600 from her ex husband, who you know, some people argue 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.080 that Sutton helped her ex husband build this company, which 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.240 we have heard from the ex husband, so we don't know. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.160 But so I digress. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.840 But there seems to be a power play here because 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.720 if you got married in nineteen ninety six and you 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.480 both got your real estate license together, and your first 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.800 job out of real estate school, if you will, is 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:44.559 working for your wife's brother in law. The Hilton group 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.320 is nothing to sneeze at. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.520 You then, so think about it. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:55.160 Your foray into real estate, if I'm Kyle, your forray 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.720 to real estate is at the hands of my family 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:04.080 member mine. And because of this apprenticeship and job or 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.360 whatever you want to call it for the many years 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:11.079 you were there, you took that knowledge from my family 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.120 member right to start your own agency. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.000 And then what was fascinating is this. 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.960 So let me give you guys a little quick history 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.840 of this, right because I want to put two and 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.920 two together here, just toe see it. We're able to 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.040 sort of like have a great understanding of why all 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.320 of this is happening. Okay, So with that being said, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.680 in twenty eleven, it's when the agency started. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.440 But this the gag Annie. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:51.840 The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills started a year before that. Kyle, ooh, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.480 come on, investigative journalism. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.680 Kyle, go ahead, No no, no, keep going, keep going. I've 0:14:58.720 --> 0:14:59.560 been taking it all in. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:05.080 Kyle appeared on season one of the house Spots of 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.360 Beverly Hills in twenty ten. The show debut because I'm 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:14.840 a journalist, Hey, Portia. The show premiered October fourteenth, two 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:22.480 thousand and ten. In two thousand and eleven, a year later, Mauricio. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.280 Starts the agency. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.040 The reason why this matters to me is because the 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:33.000 visibility of being on this huge show provides a lot 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:39.800 of new clients, a lot of notoriety, and it kind 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.160 of goes hand in hand. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.440 Any but that revelation, girlfriend, what did you think about 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:45.760 all of that? 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.600 I would like to know what the financials look like 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.520 between ninety six and twenty eleven, because I feel like, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.360 on one hand, you could argue, Okay, maybe he's making 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.000 this power play saying, you know what, you were at home, 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.240 you raise the kids. I'm the one who built this. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.120 I'm the one who built this multi million dollar empire 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.120 that we're on, not taking into consideration the platform that 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.080 Housewives gave it. Because let's be honest, nobody heard about 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.720 agency really unless they saw it on Housewives first, right, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.040 or a lot of people. So I could see where 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.560 he's like, I'm the one who created this, even though 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.680 you stayed home with the kids. But then I could 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.560 see her argument of like, well, yeah, well, you won't 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.840 even have this inside knowledge or these connections if it 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.680 wasn't for my family. So like We're not like, go 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:32.120 to hell, that's not happening, you know. And then to 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.480 your point, I remember there was like a lot of 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.840 friction and bad blood with the Hiltons too, because he 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.360 left them and started his own thing. Which is very 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.120 interesting that it was one year after Housewives, because that 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.240 does seem very intentional to then be able to use 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.560 that platform to catapult to success, which he so clearly 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.240 did successfully. So I could see where maybe then there's 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.160 a good argument on both sides, Like he's the one 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.640 who's saying I started the agency in twenty eleven, I 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.880 built it to where it is. Even though she was 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.080 on Housewives at that point, she still was home with 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.840 the kids they were really young. So he could argue, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.040 which I'm very much of the mindset of, if you're 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.200 a stay at home mom, but that is equal, if 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.880 not a harder job than a corporate job. I mean, 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:16.720 it is not for the faint of heart. I'm not 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.320 built to be a stay at home mom. I like 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.520 give accolades to anybody who is and so, but I 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.119 don't think men understand that. I think men see it 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.920 as I'm taking care of the family financially. All you're 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.000 doing is the laundry and putting dinner on the table, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.320 not realizing the emotional and mental and everything that goes 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.280 into it. And so I could see that being an argument, 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.800 but then her of course combating that, being like, well, 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.320 first of all, my family is the one that gave 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.679 you the contacts and the knowledge. My platform is the 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.160 one that put you into spotlight. So no, we're not 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.880 doing that. Maybe And I again, though, I think it's 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.920 all rooted and why they're not divorcing the financials. There's 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.479 no other reason. You're not sleeping together, you're not living together, 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:58.120 you're sleeping with other people. Why wouldn't you divorce unless 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.400 it's business, unless it's something on paper. And I think 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.080 if they don't have a printup, that makes a lot 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:03.560 of sense. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.960 Ding ding ding ding ding. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:13.159 So any Elise and Carlos King, we have cracked the 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:14.600 code of mist. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.399 They file for a divorce. You know that we're going 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.200 to get our hands on those transcripts. I want that degree. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.760 I want to go through everything I want. I'm nosy, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.520 I want to know it all. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.400 You have to come back to decipher the core filings 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:33.919 of the divorce because it is going to be a 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.800 a a breakdown and showdown of assets of the assets 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.280 because again, the reason why I wanted to bring this 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.840 up to you is because the state of California is 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.000 ran very differently than a lot of states when it 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.080 comes to the divorce of a of a married couple, 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:56.520 especially one where to your point, Annie, both parties arguably 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.080 are successful. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:58.359 In their own right. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.639 But if you look at the assets and the monetary 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.400 value of each person's life before a Housewives came into 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.159 play in twenty ten, and then a year later he 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:11.080 starts his agency, leaves the Hilton Group, and now has 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:17.120 built this five point seven four billion dollar empire. That's 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.040 a lot of money at Steak in terms of like 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:23.719 professional assets. When you also think about the four children 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.919 they have. The first one obviously Kyle got from a 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.960 previous relationship, but there's a lot of money at Steak. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:35.000 There's a lot of families where we have to figure 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.119 out who gets what. And I think they have to 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:44.720 protect each other's reputation because if Mauricio did allegedly, allegedly 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:51.720 allegedly cheat on Kyle first, then she has the upper 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.960 hand in terms of what she's allowed to get. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.920 Oh yeah, and not for public consumption too. I mean 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.159 if they divorce and it gets messy, all of the 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.200 dirty laundry is going to be aired, and I don't 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.520 think they want that. And so it's almost like, better 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.720 keep your enemy closer in that sense of it's better 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.120 to not tarnish either of our reputations. Let's figure this out. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.919 Let's just kind of keep the status quo, because to 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.639 your points, like the moment that stuff gets out there, 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.600 it gets really messy. And even though the Hilton Group 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.719 is acting on its own, separate from the agency right now, 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.960 I would imagine there are still family ties. Once that 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.720 divorce happens, it could be war, not only business to business. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.640 But it's just like you're bringing in a whole new 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.520 element of distress and division. And so it's almost like 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.000 and I get it, Like I get it. You maybe 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.080 wanted to stay married, keep the peace. She can have 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.240 her life with whoever she wants, whether that's Morgan or 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.359 somebody else. He can have his life doing whatever. And 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.199 you have enough money that you can still share a 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.800 bank account and everybody's happy. Fine, maybe that works for you, 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.680 It works for a lot of people out in Hollywood, 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.080 you know. So we'll see if they ever even end 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:57.800 up divorcing. 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.520 Well, Annie, you have to come back on Reality with 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:02.880 the King. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:08.040 I really enjoyed you in this episode. I love your podcast. 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.120 I love everything that you're doing. I'm such a fan. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.760 Once again, let my rain drops know what they can 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.800 subscribe to your podcast and also follow you on social media. 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.080 Yeah, so you can follow me on all platforms, which 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.639 is at underscore, Annie e Lease. 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