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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Give credit to Miami. We didn't know if

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Speaker 1: they were going to make it into the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: now they're in the National Title Game and it will

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Speaker 1: be a home game for Miami waiting for the outcome

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Speaker 1: of tonight's Peach Bowl with Oregon and Indiana. Carson Beck,

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Speaker 1: he did it when he needed to do it. It's

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Speaker 1: not always pretty, but he did it and had the

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Speaker 1: game winner ran it in.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that we can discuss with this.

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of plays. Old Miss should have

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Speaker 1: had a couple of interceptions. Miami dominated time of possession

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Speaker 1: over forty minutes, and Carson Beck had a couple of plays.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't normally like to throw over the middle. He

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Speaker 1: threw over the middle. But you're converting eleven third downs

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Speaker 1: into first downs. You keep the clock going and give

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Speaker 1: credit to Old Miss. When they did have the ball,

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Speaker 1: they made Miami pay. And that's a really good defense.

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Speaker 1: And Shambless is a one wonderful player. You know, you

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Speaker 1: watch him and he does have the ingredients of being

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Speaker 1: a pro quarterback. I don't know if he's coming back.

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Speaker 1: I think he is trying to come back. The NCAA

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Speaker 1: is not ruled on that yet, but he had a

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Speaker 1: wonderful night as well, and it was a great story

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Speaker 1: for Old miss And I did wonder if Lane Kiffen

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Speaker 1: would have been coaching that team if there was no

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Speaker 1: drama surrounding this. And maybe you know it's not fair

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Speaker 1: to do this, but I did wonder this. Did they

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Speaker 1: benefit from this with Lane Kiffen leaving and sort of, hey,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want us. They kind of rallied around this.

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Speaker 1: And I know it sounds strange that the guy who

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Speaker 1: recruited all these players, built this team, got you in

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Speaker 1: this position. Were you better because Lane Kiffen wasn't your

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Speaker 1: coach last night, as strange as that may sound, And

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Speaker 1: I would say, I don't think you were better, but

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Speaker 1: I think you were bitter and because of that, I

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Speaker 1: think you played with that chip on your shoulder. But

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Speaker 1: you would have benefited from having Lane Kiffin there because

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Speaker 1: now your head coach could have just concentrated on the defense.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know the defense got roughed up last

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Speaker 1: night by Miami.

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Speaker 2: You know you have time of possession.

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Speaker 1: Also, another thing is reinforced controlling the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how you win. That's how you win big games.

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Speaker 1: You run the football, you control the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: and that's what Miami did last night. But Old Miss

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Speaker 1: had opportunities there. But Carson Beck takes it in and

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Speaker 1: we have the touchdown call here, you got it.

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Speaker 3: That holds his hands out, takes drops right to the right. Look,

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Speaker 3: you got back to the U.

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Speaker 2: He resided over the left side.

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Speaker 4: Carson Back takes it in.

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Speaker 2: Coy Miami touchdown, Miami touchdown.

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Speaker 1: For cours Back.

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Speaker 4: He's that the winning moment. He's that a three yard touchdown.

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Speaker 2: And you know he doesn't run that much.

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Speaker 1: He did run a little bit more last night, but

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Speaker 1: he can kind of he can give you that great

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Speaker 1: play and then he can also give you one of

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Speaker 1: those you know, kind of scratch your heads like what

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Speaker 1: was that. He's gotta be a little bit more consistent.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get away with that, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the championship game. But they do have a home field advantage.

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Speaker 1: And then you have this situation where Fernando Mendoza is

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Speaker 2: So either way, you got.

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Speaker 1: Some interesting storylines there, but the U is back and

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to win the national championship.

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Speaker 2: Uh seton what's the poll question today?

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Speaker 5: Well, we got one here from Paul. The play last

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Speaker 5: night was past interference and should have been called? Was

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Speaker 5: pass interference? Referring to the final play that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I usually like to look at what what

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Speaker 1: are the calls being made prior to that, and so

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Speaker 1: therefore was it pass interference? Probably you probably could have

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Speaker 1: it's tricky that there's so many plays, so many calls

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Speaker 1: But if you stay consistent, then it shouldn't matter if

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Speaker 1: a lot of hand to hand combat there, and it's

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Speaker 1: not exactly a hail mary. On a hail Mary, there

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Speaker 1: is pass interference just about every hail mary, somebody is tugging, pulling, pushing, scratching, clawing.

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Speaker 1: That one didn't feel hail mary ish with the way

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Speaker 1: the consistency and that when you could have called it,

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Speaker 1: you could have. And I know that kind of taking

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Speaker 2: At the time.

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Speaker 1: I did think there was excessive tugging contact there. I

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Speaker 1: going to call it. I didn't think it was egregious,

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Speaker 1: the Carson Beck touchdown run if you wanted to.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Tom, And isn't it easier we see in the

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Speaker 6: NFL at the time to pick up a flag and

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Speaker 6: say there's no foul in the play as a post

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Speaker 6: of the other way, where it's one thing to throw

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Speaker 6: a late flag but they're not throw it at all.

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Speaker 6: Then you can't all of a sudden gather together and

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Speaker 6: say we should have called the penalty on that it

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Speaker 6: was path Ferris, Well.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Chris Fowler. He'll join us coming up.

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Speaker 1: Because Chris will sometimes say to the rules official, like you.

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Speaker 2: Sure about that? You sure? So there wasn't pass interference, So.

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Speaker 1: Chris will join us coming up. Is that the only

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Speaker 1: poll question we have for the first hour. We're going

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Speaker 1: to put that one up now.

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Speaker 5: We're also going to work on one off of our

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Speaker 5: most must win games of the weekend. That'll turn into

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Speaker 5: a poll question as well. We have a couple of

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Speaker 5: options here from Todd since it is a Friday fritzy,

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Speaker 5: oh well as well throw over to that.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Tod while tweeting his disappointment last night after oh

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Speaker 6: Mis lost, would Lane Kippen pass a lie detector test?

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Speaker 2: That'd be good TV? Do I think he was rooting

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Speaker 2: for his team former team.

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Speaker 1: I hope he was also going to get two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars if they advanced to the National

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Speaker 1: title game, so he might have been rooting from that angle.

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Speaker 1: But also there's there has to be part of you

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Speaker 1: think it's cut and dried that he's like, of course

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Speaker 1: he's rooting for Old Miss. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: cut and dried. Yes, Marvin, he kind of took words

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Speaker 7: Personally, I think he wants them to win legacy wise,

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Speaker 7: he does not want them to win because the one

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Speaker 7: national championship that he was a part of, he really

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Speaker 7: wasn't a part of because he left before they won.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you got to pick, so what would you pick?

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Speaker 1: I'm root for Okay, Paul, Do you think that Kiffen

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Speaker 1: was rooting for illness.

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Speaker 2: If he's a human being at all? Yes, last I

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Speaker 2: looked to he as a human being. Well you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, satan, Yeah, yeah, I think he was todd.

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Speaker 6: I like to think the best in people that he

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Speaker 6: wanted his I do that could be sarcastic and passive,

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Speaker 6: to think that the humanitarian part of Blaine kiff or

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Speaker 6: whatever that is, is he wanted his guys to win it.

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Speaker 5: You have spent the last I don't know how long

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Speaker 5: killing this dude.

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Speaker 2: No, killing this dude.

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Speaker 5: Oh, my ego is so big that.

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Speaker 6: That being said, I want to believe that he genuinely

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Speaker 6: being standing there holding the trophy up with the guys

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Speaker 6: and the confetti and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I want to be It means you don't believe, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to convince yourself.

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Speaker 6: I would say fifty one forty nine he wanted his team.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say that he wanted ole Miss to

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Speaker 1: win because he does have some guys on his LSU

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Speaker 1: staff who were there, and maybe he's, you know, wanting

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Speaker 1: into a national title game. I'm gonna choose to believe that. Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Tom. What other pole questions?

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Speaker 8: A few more?

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Speaker 6: It's not my If it's not my team, I still

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Speaker 6: want Indiana to win tonight because of Fernando Mendoza in

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Speaker 6: spite of him. The whole choir boy like, are you

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Speaker 6: an AI person? Are you real with all that? Because

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Speaker 6: of him or in spite of him you want Indiana

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Speaker 6: to win tonight?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it doesn't sound like you're rooting for

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Speaker 2: I thought you rooted for humanity.

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Speaker 6: I wanted THEIADA to win, but I can't believe someone

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Speaker 6: can be that. I thought Tim Tebow was something, but

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Speaker 6: this guy has taken it to.

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Speaker 2: A whole other level.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Marv, hold on, Fritzy just said I want to

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Speaker 7: see the best in people, and then once you see

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Speaker 6: I think when you go to a higher level than

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Speaker 6: the best and you're now like, oh my god, is

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Speaker 1: Real person, or you never said that about Tim Tebow,

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Speaker 1: you never said, I don't know, is he a real guy?

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Speaker 6: I would, but before I'm like, really, everything is a

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Speaker 6: psalm and all the numbers and stats like t boats.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I've been sitting amongst Fritzy for years, but lately,

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Speaker 9: over the past month he's been mumbling little things about

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Speaker 9: Fernanda Mendos, like this guy's too good to be real?

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Speaker 2: Is this real?

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Speaker 9: He just mumbles it lightly when he's on TV.

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Speaker 6: He's just so excited and everything's great and you know,

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Speaker 6: praise the Lord, and like, I just so just so

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Speaker 6: great to be alive. Okay, maybe I'm jealous of his

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Speaker 2: I'm telling.

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Speaker 1: That's what this could be, that you happy, you're you

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Speaker 1: have jealousy over people.

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Speaker 6: I think that's definitely what we did the same thing

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Speaker 6: with them, you know, with the me. I wish I

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Speaker 6: could be a stand up comic life that or a

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Speaker 6: performance sing with the whole you know, Elvis.

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Speaker 8: Thing and people freaking out over it.

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Speaker 2: And girls crying. That's why you don't like the Beatles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you be more like Fernando Mendoza than

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have this cynical approach.

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Speaker 6: It's a jealous, selfish kind of what about me?

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Speaker 2: About me? And cheering for me.

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Speaker 7: It's said, yes, man, I'm just shaking my head. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I mean it's it's nine twelve.

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Speaker 2: I warned you. It was a Fritzy Friday.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 1: I came in and you know, Fritzie was harassing me

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Speaker 1: as I'm pulling into the parking.

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Speaker 2: Lote you down the driveway the parking lot.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Paul, I want to go back to the end

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Speaker 9: of this play. I watched it another time, the end

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Speaker 1: While the semifinal game was going on last night, you

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Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Let's start at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game. Would you have called pass

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Speaker 8: Yes? Probably more likely than not.

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Speaker 3: There was some pushing going both ways, and in that

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think I'm the only.

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Speaker 3: But I can't I think of another example of it

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Speaker 8: For that matter.

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Speaker 2: How did Miami win.

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Speaker 8: That's a lot of scrimmage. That's that's really what they've done.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's just a massive group and.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to like like really understand dan like how

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Speaker 8: It really, it really doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It's my like if it's and I've said this and

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Speaker 8: They're just a massive group. They're physical. I mean, you know, Mary.

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Speaker 8: But that's what they've won with. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: Too in other spots, but that team has led in

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Speaker 8: Of who their head coaches.

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Speaker 3: And then credit to Mario Cristobaal forgetting that team to

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia won national titles because they basically said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look at what Philly did after they won those

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Speaker 3: And they're obviously going to fetch the highest price if

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Speaker 8: It's very different.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just a lot of that's changed over time,

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Speaker 1: If I had Lane Kiffen hooked up to a lie

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Speaker 8: This is get that hold on, hold on anyone who

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Speaker 8: But he is incentivized.

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Speaker 8: Even so the players who may be joining him. So

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Speaker 8: True, true, but I think they'll they'll they would still

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Speaker 8: I'd like to think he was ready for all Miss.

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Speaker 8: I believe he was.

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Speaker 3: I think you obviously saw in the final drive what

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Speaker 3: know how to put that, uh, you know, how to

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Speaker 3: summarize that at this time, because I still think he's

445
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Speaker 3: got a big game ahead of him if he plays

446
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Speaker 3: well in the National Championship. Based on what he did

447
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 3: in last night's game, based on what you do in

448
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: the National Championship, that's probably all people really want to

449
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 3: talk about. When they were company to a draft evaluation

450
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Speaker 3: of him.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Brady Quinn, Fox college football analyst, what did

452
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Speaker 1: Oregon I guess, gain or learn from the first matchup

453
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Speaker 1: with Indiana that helps them tonight?

454
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Speaker 3: They got to be better and stopping the run. I

455
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: thought that was what ultimately lost them. The game was

456
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Speaker 3: in their house, and this is a group that obviously

457
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Speaker 3: is highly motivated. You know, you see Dan Lannings pregame speeches.

458
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Speaker 3: But they weren't the more physical team. And I think

459
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Speaker 3: they know they have to be the more physical team

460
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Speaker 3: because Indiana has proven that every single game. We can

461
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Speaker 3: talk about Brenanda Mendoza, we can talk about the defense,

462
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: Cooper Sarah, some of their playmakers. It starts in the trenches,

463
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: like they have dictated to others how that game is

464
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Speaker 3: going to go, and everything to me is based off

465
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Speaker 3: how they run the football and the RPOs everything else

466
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Speaker 3: off of that.

467
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Speaker 8: So they've got to find a way of stopping the run.

468
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Speaker 3: That's been a little bit of an achilles heel for

469
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Speaker 3: Oregon's defense this year, if we want to break it down.

470
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Speaker 3: But but I tend to believe that you know, when

471
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Speaker 3: you have rematches and it's it's seldom you have it

472
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Speaker 3: in college football, a least not until we had to

473
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Speaker 3: expanded playoff that you know, the team to lose is

474
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Speaker 3: gonna learn more from that. And I think you have

475
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Speaker 3: evidence of that. Look at the playoff. If you look

476
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Speaker 3: at every single power for a team that played a rematch,

477
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: the team that lost the initial matchup one, you know,

478
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: you don't have to look any further than it was

479
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: Old Miss obviously lost to Georgia.

480
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Speaker 8: They just they beat Georgia.

481
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Speaker 3: In the subsequent round, you had Bamba who lost to Oklahoma,

482
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Speaker 3: who beat Oklahoma. And even in the SEC championship game,

483
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 3: you know Georgia lost to Bama. They you know they

484
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Speaker 3: were win the SEC Championship. So there's examples I think

485
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Speaker 3: of that. I think the only one you could point

486
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Speaker 3: to is or ole Miss who beat Tulaan and obviously

487
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Speaker 3: a rematch which didn't change anything, but again not really

488
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Speaker 3: in the same you know, level playing field. I think

489
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Speaker 3: that's what the stake for Oregon is.

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Speaker 8: Is this team.

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Speaker 3: To me, DAN feels like Ohio State last year, where

492
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Speaker 3: you know, Ohio State had kind of you know, lost

493
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Speaker 3: the Michigan game, stumbled versus Oregon as well, but they

494
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Speaker 3: kind of built that momentum as they.

495
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Speaker 8: Went on to win a national championship.

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Speaker 3: Oregon, you know, lost that Indiana game, didn't play in

497
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Speaker 3: the conference championship, but I feel like they've kind of

498
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: learned from that and they've built up from that and

499
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Speaker 3: now they've got a lot of momentum as they head

500
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Speaker 3: into it. So I would not be surprised at all

501
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Speaker 3: if you see a very more you know, physical, different

502
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Speaker 3: style Oregon team and as far as how aggressive they

503
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Speaker 3: are stopping Indiana's rushing attack.

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Speaker 1: The SEC finishes this postseason with a one in eight

505
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: record against non conference power for teams. Is this the

506
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Speaker 1: future or is this an aberration?

507
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Speaker 3: No, this is what college football has been. We for

508
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: the third straight year don't have an SEC team playing

509
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Speaker 3: for a national championship for the third straight year. You know,

510
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: you didn't have the bulk share of representation in the playoff,

511
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: at least in the SEMIS they're not represented by SEC teams.

512
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Speaker 3: So I think when you really take a good hard

513
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Speaker 3: look at what's happened in college football is there's been

514
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: a shift and look, you can draw your own conclusion

515
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: about how NIL and the transfer portal has impacted that

516
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: where now you can pay players that it's above board.

517
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: I'll let someone else, you know, uh, tick off the

518
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: SEC fan base about it. And I'm also not naive

519
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: enough to think that other schools and other conferences weren't

520
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: doing it, but it just kind of see, it feels

521
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: like an odd cause and effect that NIL transfer portal

522
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: that you know, combination now becomes possible, and all of

523
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: a sudden, the teams in the Big Ten uh and

524
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: other teams start kind of really capitalizing off of that.

525
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Speaker 3: So I think this is going to be more of

526
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Speaker 3: the norm. And I think moving forward, uh, you know,

527
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: you're you're only going to see you know, teams within

528
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Speaker 3: the Big Ten continuity as stronger. I mean, if I

529
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: you does it, that's no saying like who else could

530
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Speaker 3: potentially do it too in the Big ten that we

531
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Speaker 3: really didn't think about. Uh, you know three years ago.

532
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Speaker 1: No matter who wins the national title, do you feel

533
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is still better than them?

534
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Speaker 8: Hey, I don't like living in a world of hypotheticals, so.

535
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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not one of those No fans who's

536
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: gonna sit there and say that. Okay, I wish there

537
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: was a scenario where Notre Dame could have been in

538
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: so he could have seen what it would look like,

539
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: but that wasn't the case.

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Speaker 8: I don't.

541
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Speaker 3: I even hate the fact that we have to talk

542
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: about it because you know, it takes away from all

543
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: the other schools and what they've accomplished, all the players,

544
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: what they've accomplished.

545
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: But in trying to make great radio here, you know.

546
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Speaker 8: But here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. With

547
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 8: you even asking it, it goes to show you the

548
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 8: brand power of Notre Dame.

549
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: Like ESPN can't help themselves and they have to make

550
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: a snarky comment as they do the postgame highlights on

551
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: Sports Center afterwards about Notre Dame, who hasn't been involved

552
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: for a month, but like everyone still wants to talk

553
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: about them.

554
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 8: Okay, Like, go ahead, keep on talking about the.

555
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: Brand that everyone hates to admit is the top of

556
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: college football, even though they're not.

557
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 8: A part of that.

558
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: Well, same thing with the Cowboys. Everybody goes out of

559
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: their way to somehow incorporate the Cowboys. And even now,

560
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, we're gonna look ahead, you know,

561
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: next year with the Cowboys. Wait a minute, there's games

562
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Let me, can you give me

563
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: a comp for Fernando Mendoza.

564
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is kind of who I when I'm watching

565
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: his tape and see in.

566
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Speaker 2: Regards to the high a higher end.

567
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 8: M That's a tough question to answer because I also was.

568
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: A fourth round draft pick. That's why I was saying

569
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Speaker 1: that this is gonna be the number one. Now granted

570
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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of quarterbacks in this draft.

571
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: Oh hold on, I mean, if Dante Moore comes out,

572
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not so sure he's not gonna be

573
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Speaker 3: the number one overall pick.

574
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Speaker 8: Like, I think there's a.

575
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: Real argument to be made in his upside, his skill set.

576
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Speaker 3: He to me, if he came out, would be the

577
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: purest passer, meaning when you watch me, I think he's

578
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: got a stronger arm. I think he layers throws better.

579
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Speaker 3: I know he's not his experience, and obviously you know

580
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 3: he's not the Heisman Trophy winner. And Fernando's had a

581
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Speaker 3: tremendous year. I'm not taking anything away from it.

582
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: Let's take you no take away the college stuff. Let's

583
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: look at pro potential.

584
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: So so when I watched the tape of these guys

585
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: and you're watching the different throws that they're making, I

586
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: sit there and look at Dantae Morr and I said, Yeah,

587
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: that's the guy I probably feel like has the higher

588
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: upside and and even some of the stuff he does

589
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: off scheduleing.

590
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Okay, but let me make you Tom Brady, You're you're

591
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: the GM of the Raiders. You're on the clock and

592
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: the pick at it is in the Raiders select.

593
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: I would well again, Dante Moores hasn't declared so and

594
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: so he does, it would be Fernanda Mendoza once he does,

595
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: I would lean right now, based on my film stunning

596
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: on both probably on Dante Moore. I like that, and

597
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: I know that's that's gonna be controversial on people, but

598
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: it's just what I've seen from him. I've sat down

599
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: taught to them, and they're both tremendous guys. Like I

600
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: think they both be franchise quarterbacks like this, Like we've

601
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: got in trouble before because we had a debate over

602
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: like Bryce Young CJ. Stroud, And it's like, both these

603
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: guys be franchise quarterbacks. Like they each have a skill

604
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: set that I think translates to me. It's more about, Okay,

605
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 3: if Fernando goes to Las Vegas or if Dante goes

606
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: to Las Vegas, what are they going to do to

607
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: help him out? Because that is a team that's devoid

608
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: of protection and devoid of any playmakers helping him out.

609
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: I mean, look at Ashton Genty. I think he rushed

610
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: for what is it, twelve hundred yards, thirteen hundred yards,

611
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: like a thousand of them were after contact. I mean,

612
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: it's it's ridiculous what he had to endure as a

613
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: running backs. So both those guys I think will probably

614
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: go one and two in whatever order the team see that.

615
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: But I think the difference for me again is just

616
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: I think Dante's got a little bigger arm.

617
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 8: I think he can create a little bit more.

618
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: He's less experienced, and obviously he doesn't have the same

619
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: type of tape, but it's just effortless man when you

620
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: watch him the way he throws the football. And the

621
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Speaker 3: one concern and have a little bit for Fernando is

622
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: they run a bit more of a heavier, heavier, rpo offense,

623
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: and so that doesn't translate quite as well to the

624
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: next level. You know, we always talk about the progressive

625
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: quarterbacks reading defenses and understanding what they're trying to take away.

626
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: I think you see a little more NFL throws, more

627
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: of an NFL style offense from what Dante's as to

628
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: do an organ as opposed to maybe what you're saying

629
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: from Fernando at.

630
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Speaker 2: Ayu Jets Raiders.

631
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: If you had your choice and you're going to play

632
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: quarterback next year, where are you going.

633
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: I think the Jets are better positioned because of their

634
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: personnel to allow you to have success. I was a

635
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: part of the Jets organization for half a year, so

636
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 3: a cup of coffee or whatever, and I would say,

637
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: they've got things set up, but you know, you just

638
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: got to hope that it all comes together.

639
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Would you go back to college if that was the option,

640
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: you could go Raiders, Jets or back to Oregon.

641
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: If you're talking about being the I mean, if you're

642
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: talking about the business decision and you're the number one

643
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: overall pick, I mean, you're making a lot of money

644
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: on that first contract that's fully guaranteed, really right for

645
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: the first four years with a fifth year option.

646
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 8: No one's going to be able to compete with that

647
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: at the college level.

648
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: And so you might say, like, are you willing to

649
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: take on that risk where, yeah, you could get paid

650
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, Brendan Soresby got paid what five million

651
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: reportedly to go to Texas Tech.

652
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 8: You know you're gonna get paid good money, and you

653
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 8: delay it for another year.

654
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: But I'll ask you this, Dan Jets raiders the Browns

655
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 3: Tights like they've been drafting it somewhere in that spot

656
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: for a long time.

657
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 8: Like it seems like it's pretty cyclical.

658
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: It happens like every other year, So there's no guarantee

659
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: if you go back to school, you're not going.

660
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Speaker 8: To have that same team in the same situation play

661
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Speaker 8: itself out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll leave you with this.

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Speaker 1: Does Miami fire their head coach if they don't know

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Speaker 1: who is going to be their next head coach? I?

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Speaker 3: Uh, it just doesn't line up to think that they

666
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Speaker 3: didn't react to the John Horbad now being out there

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Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean none of it lines up, not with who.

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Speaker 3: The general manager interview candidates have been, and especially if

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Speaker 3: they end up hiring their general manager first.

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Speaker 8: I think the thing that bothers me the most about

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Speaker 8: it is, you know, what of Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: Bench to a if he knew that he was gonna

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Speaker 3: get fired at some point, whether it's after the season

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Speaker 3: or like if he felt like he needed to put

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Speaker 3: the best guy out there to win and has no

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Speaker 3: disrespect to Quinn yours, but he's a rookie.

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Speaker 8: Maybe they want to see what they have in him.

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Speaker 3: But I think as a coach you also do that

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Speaker 3: if you feel like you're comfortable, like, hey, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: be here in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so let's see what we have in this young guy.

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Speaker 8: That's what That's what strikes me is a bit odd too,

684
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Speaker 8: is just the way it all went about.

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Speaker 3: If it feels like again they're reactive to who else

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Speaker 3: is out there, maybe even with Stefanski, but it seems

687
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Speaker 3: like all the all the dots are connected and it's

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Speaker 3: gonna end up being horrible.

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Speaker 2: When it's all said and done, good to chat with

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Speaker 2: you as always.

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Speaker 8: Have a great weekend, Happy New Year, by the way,

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Speaker 8: or there's a too late, it's too any one of

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Speaker 8: those like yeah, you're okay, you're you're a Seinefeld guy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, to like, okay, do I wait until the

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Speaker 1: end of January.

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Speaker 3: If I hadn't seen you, I might, I might open

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Speaker 3: up with that. I think that's a that's a that's

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Speaker 3: a fair way of handling it.

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Speaker 2: And you could have texted me.

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Speaker 8: It's a good point. You're gonna text me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I wouldn't say Happy New Year.

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Speaker 8: I'm saying you could have. On New Year's Day, I

703
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Speaker 8: would be here.

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Speaker 1: I only respond when people do it to me. I

705
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Speaker 1: don't do it. I don't say Happy New you.

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Speaker 8: Oh you're one of those guys. Okay, I'll keep that

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Speaker 8: in mine. I'll keep that in mind.

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Speaker 2: I did say Happy New Year to Lane Kiffin though, see.

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Speaker 8: But that maybe that's because Lane's pretty good.

710
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Speaker 3: Alluring people into situations like Demon Williams and all that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't reach out to Lane. But hey, have a

712
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Speaker 1: great weekend. Thank you, Bud, thank you. That's Brady Quinn.

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Speaker 1: listen live. Chris Fowler was on the call for last

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Speaker 1: night's Fiesta Bowl between Miami and Ole Miss, and he'll

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Speaker 1: be there for the National Title game on Monday. That'll

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Speaker 1: he heads down Under for the Australian Open on ESPN Network.

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Speaker 1: You kind of go into a game with all the

722
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Speaker 1: different scenarios like this could happen or what if this happens?

723
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Speaker 2: How often are you surprised in a game?

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Speaker 4: Pretty often because college football, dan, as you know, is

725
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: often messy. It's not neat tidy, it's controversial, it's noisy,

726
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: it's beautiful, and we had all of that in that

727
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Speaker 4: game last night. I mean, if you think about the

728
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Speaker 4: small moments I've been reliving sort of the end of

729
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Speaker 4: the game situation because that was the most dramatic and memorable,

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Speaker 4: but all the little moments that get you there. Oh,

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Speaker 4: Miss Lucas Carnero is a great kicker. Hits the left

732
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Speaker 4: up right twice, doinks it twice? On consecutive field goals.

733
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Speaker 4: One stays out, one goes in because it's this far

734
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Speaker 4: to the right. All the Miami dropped about four interceptions,

735
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Speaker 4: but guys kept making amazing plays. And you know, I

736
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Speaker 4: hate to say this because it's a cliche, but you

737
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Speaker 4: really did hate to see Trinidad Chambliss and Ole Miss

738
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Speaker 4: that group of guys that have been through so much

739
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Speaker 4: walk off defeat it yesterday. Only one team could survive,

740
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Speaker 4: and Miami deserved it. But man, it was it was

741
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Speaker 4: I didn't expect a lot of things I saw last night,

742
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Speaker 4: that's for sure. Carson Beck running the ball for a

743
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Speaker 4: touchdown was not on my Bengo car for that end

744
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Speaker 4: of game situation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the non call with that final play, your thoughts

746
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Speaker 1: on now. And I'll preface this by saying, I always

747
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: look at how the game is going to get called.

748
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, they calling everything, or they letting them you know, play,

749
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Speaker 1: But and they were calling a lot and that's why

750
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Speaker 1: I I was a little bit surprised that they didn't

751
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Speaker 1: call something on that play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get to that in a second. I mean,

753
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Speaker 4: the reason why it's it's tough to know what's going

754
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Speaker 4: to happen in these games is because they're officiated by

755
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Speaker 4: different conferences. It was the Big Ten last night. You

756
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Speaker 4: can't have a team involved in the game and then

757
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: have that conference officials, So it's frequently guys. You don't

758
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: see those teams all year, and they call pass interference

759
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Speaker 4: very differently in different leagues. I had a conversation with

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Speaker 4: the officials on the field about that pregame. They don't

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Speaker 4: always agree with me. They like the thing. There's a

762
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Speaker 4: national standard. I think it's called differently. Yeah, mind, you

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Speaker 4: even have a single penalty against them in the Ohio

764
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Speaker 4: State win last night. They had a lot of costly penalties,

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Speaker 4: a lot of mental mistakes, and all miss had less.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of it, you know, maybe it

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Speaker 4: wasn't a true hail mary. Heave you know where it's

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Speaker 4: six guys in a pile jumping up and down and

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Speaker 4: that almost never gets called. As you know, you have

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Speaker 4: to you have to tackle somebody and step on their

771
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Speaker 4: neck in the NFL to get a call like that

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Speaker 4: and a hail Mary at the end of the game,

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Speaker 4: this wasn't really that. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: mutual combat is what Bill Lemagne are rules expert in

775
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Speaker 4: the booths. We had to defer to him. He called

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Speaker 4: it that, and you know there was pushing and shutting

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Speaker 4: on both sides. If it's a normal middle of the

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Speaker 4: game situation in the end zone, they probably get a

779
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Speaker 4: defensive pass interference call. But we can't we we can't

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Speaker 4: complain when the officials step in an intervene if we

781
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Speaker 4: don't understand they're going to call things differently in different

782
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Speaker 4: situations at the end of the game. Right, don't we

783
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 4: kind of want that? Don't you want to let him

784
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Speaker 4: play in the NBA? You want to take Zack foul

785
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Speaker 4: called or something decided at the free throw line.

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Speaker 1: I don't, but it's an advantage for the defense. Then

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Speaker 1: if they know you're not going to call this, and

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Speaker 1: it was kind of an intermediate mary, not a hail mary,

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Speaker 1: and so because of that, and you're right, hail Mary,

790
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: they're not going to call anything. This to me, you know,

791
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Speaker 1: you could have called that, and it's not a spot foul.

792
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Speaker 1: So it's only fifteen yards. It doesn't decide the game.

793
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Speaker 1: But given that moment and the way they had called

794
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Speaker 1: the game, I thought maybe you could have They could

795
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Speaker 1: have called holding on the left tackle on Carson Bek's

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Speaker 1: touchdown run.

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Speaker 4: You could have called a lot of holding last night.

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Speaker 4: I think when you have the attitude in your mind

799
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Speaker 4: that the CFP officials are going to let him play,

800
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Speaker 4: which we heard. We hear a lot, and they have

801
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Speaker 4: I think throughout this bracket for the most part, let

802
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Speaker 4: teams play because they know that. You know, twenty two

803
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: million don't tune into why a holding call, but you're right,

804
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: you have to. You have to sort of officiate the

805
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: game with consistency and your best judgment. What Lamaie said though,

806
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 4: was mutual combat. That's what That's how the officials view it. Yes,

807
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: there was jersey grabbing, Yes the official was. I mean

808
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: the receiver shriveling was grabbed there, but he also was

809
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 4: pushing off with the arm to create space before that.

810
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Speaker 4: And you can make a case of they've thrown a flag.

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Speaker 4: You know the history if Miami had been called for

812
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Speaker 4: passing the last play the game at all. I was

813
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: on the rug Devil Stadium. I was there. Maybe you

814
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 4: were too, Yeah I was, and and Miami's never won

815
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Speaker 4: a FIESTAVL. They've had their heart broken there. If they

816
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 4: had thrown a flag on Miami in that situation, historical context,

817
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 4: and I'll miss it won the game. I want you

818
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: could write a movie about whoever wins the game on

819
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Speaker 4: Monday Night. It's going to be a great movie. It

820
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 4: was a movie about Old Missus season. Anyway, that would

821
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Speaker 4: have been another movie on Miami's futility in the festival,

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Speaker 4: if if they'd thrown a flag there.

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Speaker 1: Mutual combat sounds like a Liam Neeson movie. Stephen Segal

824
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Speaker 1: in Mutual Contact.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he got a mutual combat contract. I said,

826
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Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, because they are hand fighting

827
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Speaker 4: and pushing and shove it. I just wanted back up

828
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Speaker 4: for a second. I'm in Atlanta. I got in at

829
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Speaker 4: four o'clock. I'm just trying to be professional with you

830
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 4: hearing and get the voice right, so pull back the curtain.

831
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Speaker 4: I have this honey from New Zealand. I have this

832
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 4: gel from China, which is an herbal thing. I have lozenges,

833
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: and I have this device here. I'm not vaping, I

834
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: assure you, but this is something that you take a

835
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: hit on to get your voice back. It's called a

836
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: vocal miss thing that singers use. And I've got my

837
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Speaker 4: iPad sitting on my wheelie bag, which is on a

838
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 4: small table and the IPAs leaning against a trash can.

839
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Speaker 4: I'm just doing my best here to function at this

840
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Speaker 4: Algordan for you.

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Speaker 1: So are there concerns the voice might not be ready

842
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Speaker 1: for Monday night?

843
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: There are no concerns about You're not game time decision,

844
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Speaker 2: are you?

845
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: No? I mean Sean mcdonn and Greg McClay are calling

846
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: the game. I'm just sure in Atlanta to watch, okay

847
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: from the field, and you know, prepare for the championship.

848
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: I'll be ready. Don't worry about it.

849
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Speaker 1: Are you the understudy in case something happens to Sean McDonough.

850
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Speaker 4: I hope not. Nothing's gonna happen to Sean mcdonne. Except'll

851
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Speaker 4: call it great king.

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00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 8: Uh.

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: The Indiana story And you know, growing up in Ohio,

854
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: we were aware of Indiana because they were always the

855
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: team that was usually had zero it was like fifty

856
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: six to nothing or whatever, losing his friend. You know,

857
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: a team in NCAA history with football, and then they

858
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: do this in two years, this turnaround and you're trying

859
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: to tell people like you think the Hoosiers movie is

860
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: you know great? This to me, Trump's that because I mean,

861
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: who would have thought Indiana would have a Heisman Trophy winner,

862
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: be the number one team, be favored to win the

863
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Speaker 1: national championship, any of the above.

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Speaker 4: It's the greatest turnerund I've seen in the sport. You

865
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: can make comparisons to other sports. It's not supposed to

866
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: happen in college football and never has historically. Now with

867
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Speaker 4: the Portal and NIL, you can make it happen pretty quickly.

868
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Speaker 4: But even given that, what Signetti has done is astounding

869
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Speaker 4: to me. I mean it happened last year when they

870
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: make the playoff and take another level up to be

871
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 4: as dominant as they were in the Rose Bowl. The

872
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: roster is not built with four and five stars. It's

873
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 4: a very different roster construction than the other three teams

874
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: in the semifinals and most of the other teams in

875
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: the playoff. But he is a brilliant evaluator of talent.

876
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Speaker 4: That's what you have to have. A lot of guys

877
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 4: can go to the portal and spend money. They spent

878
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: it beautifully, and they had a great eye for talent.

879
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 4: And he brought a bunch of key guys from James

880
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 4: Madison with him were the core of the team. And

881
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 4: he went out and got Mendoza, so he made some

882
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 4: great choices. But I don't know this is going to

883
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 4: happen again in the future either. I think it's yeah,

884
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 4: you can win quickly with the modern reality, but still

885
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: to do it they I don't want to put it now.

886
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: They got the portal of no know, you have to

887
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: make a million smart choices to do what they've done.

888
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: SEC did not do well in the playoffs one.

889
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: And eight or the Bowls for that matter.

890
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: Is this an anomaly?

891
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's the third straight year that a

892
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 4: SEC team is not going to play in the championship game,

893
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 4: and a Big Ten would now be favored at this

894
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: point to win three in a row. So yeah, the

895
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: Big Ten can say that the championship runs through that conference.

896
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: The Big Ten also did well head to head in

897
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 4: the balls against the SEC. But if you view where

898
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 4: the SEC is and where it's going, yeah, always not

899
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 4: doom and gloom. I think that, you know, at the

900
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: bottom of the conference, the bottom half of it, you know,

901
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: nine through sixteen, it's still much stronger than the Big Ten.

902
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: So running the gauntlet in the SEC is still the

903
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: most challenging thing to do in this sport. The Big

904
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: Ten at the top is where the power lies. So

905
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 4: the SEC used to have great top heavy power and

906
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: also depth. They don't have that anymore. At the top.

907
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 4: You've got three elite team out of the Big Ten,

908
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: and Ohio State got knocked out him two of her

909
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: playing here in Atlanta tonight. But I don't think the

910
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: SEC is going to fade away. That there's you know,

911
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: they have too much money and too much passion and

912
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: too much invested in the sport already, But it makes

913
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: it interesting. I like the fact that there's balance in

914
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 4: the sport. I like the fact that a ten seed

915
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 4: in Miami, which many people out there thought, and I

916
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: know you're watching out there, didn't belong in. Look where

917
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 4: they are now. They won three tough games and they're

918
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: going to play for a championship.

919
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: I wonder though that, you know, with college football playoffs

920
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: maybe going to sixteen next year, the Big Ten and

921
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: SEC are saying we need to have X number of teams.

922
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if this hurts their argument of saying

923
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: we should get X number, we should have five teams

924
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: in and the Big Ten has five teams or four

925
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: teams because of what's happened this year.

926
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: I don't love the idea of expanding and then including

927
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: four automatic bids to the Big ten in the SEC,

928
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: and that's the plan of Tony Posidi, Big Ten Commissioner,

929
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: And you know, maybe more conferences, like you know, the

930
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: a SEC might like to go along with that too,

931
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: they like to have more teams in I kind of

932
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 4: like the structure where it is now. I think the

933
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 4: tweak you can make is, you know, tougher restrictions on

934
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: group of five teams. It was, you know, James Madison

935
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: was a great story, but that was never going to

936
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: be a competitive game. So you've got eleven playoff games

937
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: in this format and two involved complete mismatches. And I

938
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: think people would have liked to see Notre Dame or

939
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: Texas or Vanderbilt for somebody else in those games. But

940
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 4: then you're now excluding entire conference to any chance to

941
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: get in the bracket.

942
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: You know, can college football be fixed?

943
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: As a strong word, but it just feels like there

944
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: are things that makes sense that college football should be doing.

945
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: Simping simple guardrails here of starting the season, maybe ending

946
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: the season on New Year's Day. Maybe that'll take away

947
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: the coaches leaving, maybe players leaving transfer portal I mean,

948
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: it feels like college football. And I said this yesterday.

949
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: They're waiting for Congress to clean up their mess.

950
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: That that's not good.

951
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: No, it's not. I mean it's or they're waiting for

952
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 4: a new sheriff to ride into town because we are

953
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: in the wild West and there's no rules and it's chaos.

954
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 4: If people really knew what was going on behind the scenes,

955
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll tell you this is some anecdotes. There's

956
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: a long snapper out there from a from prominent school,

957
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 4: a long snapper who's this mine in his own business,

958
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 4: very happy where he is not in the transfer portal

959
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: at all. Twenty seven phone calls to a long snapper

960
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 4: with these are major teams that are trying to get

961
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: this guy, offering him Money's I'm happy where I am.

962
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 4: I'm not in the portal, I know, But what's your number?

963
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: But I'm not in the brook. What's your number? What's

964
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: a long snapper's number? Is where we are and that's

965
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: going on. You got kickers and punters. I think the

966
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: SEC half the conference got a new kicker yesterday. And

967
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: that's that's where we are, man, and and it's it's

968
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 4: in a way you just want the system to do

969
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: right by the players, but to have four thousand guys

970
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 4: in the portal, the vast majority will not lam someplace

971
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: and play as a starter and win a championship. That's

972
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: that's the one percent.

973
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: Maybe I did bring this up yesterday as well. When's

974
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: the last time a player was academically ineligible? You know,

975
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: growing up it happened all the time. I've never heard

976
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: of any money it did happen.

977
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: And also they also got away with murder a lot

978
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: of them. Back in that there were dudes with zero

979
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: point zeros who played the Blutarski grade point average. I mean,

980
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 4: that's not what we want. I mean, there's a lot

981
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: of great examples about what's right in this sport by

982
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: great students who are doing it doing you know, a

983
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: lot of the right things. But I don't know, that's

984
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: a good question. I don't see that anymore. You know,

985
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 4: Jesus was going to play in the playoff, but he

986
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: didn't pass that final and he's gonna have to sit out.

987
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: That seems kind of quaint these days, doesn't it.

988
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: Most successful college coaches try the NFL. I mean, some

989
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: of the biggest names you know in college football history,

990
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, save and spurry or can you see Signetti

991
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: trying the NFL.

992
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: I think he wins wherever he goes, right, we know that.

993
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: I think there'd be a lot of teams intrigue. He

994
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: he seems to love college football. He would not have

995
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: stayed at a lower division for as long as he did,

996
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: you know whether it's I mean even before James Madison,

997
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 4: he was in small college football and loved being a teacher.

998
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: And that's okay. I think they're always intrigued because you wonder,

999
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: how how would your system work at the highest level

1000
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: of football. But I wouldn't I wouldn't rule it out.

1001
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: People in college have been trying to hire this guy.

1002
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 4: He signed an extension, a big contract, and there's still

1003
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: coming after him for trying to say I forget the contract.

1004
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: What does that mean these days?

1005
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know Penn State was interesting. You know, there

1006
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: are a few of them.

1007
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: And Mike Tannenbond brought it up earlier in the week

1008
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: that could you see a package deal with Mendoza and

1009
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: Signetti to the Raiders?

1010
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: And I at.

1011
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: First I said no way, but then I don't. I mean,

1012
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: he makes more money than he would make in the NFL.

1013
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Chris he's gonna he's gonna be the highest paid coach

1014
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: in college football.

1015
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if you meant Mendoza or Signetti there.

1016
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what Mendoza makes, but.

1017
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 4: He's not making NFL top pick money, no, for sure.

1018
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 4: I mean it's interesting. I have a feel for these

1019
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: guys and I really wish them success. On Sundays and

1020
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 4: I said there looking at the Raiders or the Jets

1021
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: or say wow, I mean to go from where he's

1022
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: gone in Indiana, structure, order, brilliant, organization, togetherness, chemistry, love,

1023
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: love your brother. To go to an NFL locker room

1024
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 4: like that, where where you got problems. If you're draft

1025
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: first and you do it again and again, you got problems.

1026
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: And for Fernando to walk in there knowing how these

1027
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: guys are. He loves order, an organization, and things to

1028
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 4: be neat and tighty. He's very unique personality. I think

1029
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: that for him to survive and thrive in the chaos

1030
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: of an NFL doormatt locker room is seriously challenging. The

1031
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: fit is so important to I mean, we got you know, finally,

1032
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: Rice Young's in the playoff right in Carolina. It took

1033
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: a few years. It took the NFC South to get

1034
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: him there. But look what he had to go through

1035
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 4: the first couple of years. You know, they just the chaos,

1036
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: the revolving door of management and coaches and different offensive

1037
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 4: systems and getting getting knocked around. I mean, that's the

1038
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 4: reality for most top picks. You know, Caleb Williams landing

1039
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: in a good place, and he also endured some tough

1040
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 4: times and now he's going to take his team and

1041
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 4: Cam word, I hope he can get there too. But

1042
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 4: you know, Fernando to the Raiders, Man to the Jets.

1043
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: No good luck, all right, rest the voice though, you

1044
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: gotta get ready, all right.

1045
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: Get a lift in you've got Yeah, I don't. I've

1046
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: never used one of those.

1047
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: It's very legal.

1048
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: It's just it's just.

1049
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 4: Sailing. It's just sailing. Solution here, vapor.

1050
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: Somebody's going to make a meme out of that. Chris,

1051
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: just letting you know you're thanks sparking you're vaping on

1052
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: my show here. Uh, thanks again, appreciate it, Thank you,

1053
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: great job.

1054
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: Chris Pallor