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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is hot pursuit.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have we have a pretty special guest.

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Speaker 2: I'd say today we have an actual rock star with us. Yes, today,

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Speaker 2: Alison Mosshart, the singer, songwriter, artist and lead vocalist for

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Speaker 2: the rock band The Kills.

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Speaker 1: And I like the Dead Weather, which is another band

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Speaker 1: that I don't know if it's a.

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Speaker 2: Super correct supergroup. Yeah. I actually really started to know

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Speaker 2: that Allison was a car person because in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: she put out this book called Karma, which is a

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Speaker 2: play on word super cool.

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Speaker 1: And the listeners will notice in the interview for the

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Speaker 1: first thirty minutes, I think that you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: word that starts with a K, karma. I had no

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Speaker 1: idea about the book. Oh y, I had seen some

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Speaker 1: pictures that were in it, but I didn't realiz it

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Speaker 1: was car carma. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's real clever like that. And I love talking

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Speaker 2: to her because she has that thing where she's actually

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Speaker 2: so still and quiet that she sort of draws everybody

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Speaker 2: into her realm and toward her energy. Didn't you feel that? Yes, Matt,

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Speaker 2: she has that where she's super calm, and you kind

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Speaker 2: of just like everything slows down and just flows into

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Speaker 2: her orbit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I really like you wait for the popes.

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Speaker 1: Nobody interrupts, Yeah, for sure interrupt.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean no. I was like, Wow, this is

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Speaker 2: just a great conversation between two tall blondes. What can

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Speaker 2: I say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt pretty lucky to be involved in that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was the tallest interview that we've ever done, all.

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Speaker 2: Three of us tall average height. We need to keep tracking,

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Speaker 2: to start tracking that.

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Speaker 1: She was very cool and it's the first time we've

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Speaker 1: had a guest who appreciates my challenger. I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the whole time we were talking to her, you never

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Speaker 1: told us how you feel about the Dutch Challenger.

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Speaker 2: It's how she feels about some plastic surgery, which is

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Speaker 2: it's fun to look at, but not for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, So that'll be you know what, let's just

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Speaker 1: get straight into it.

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Speaker 2: You might as well.

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Speaker 1: This is Alison Mosshart of The Kills.

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Speaker 2: It's so nice to see you here, Alison for our listeners.

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Speaker 2: Alison Mosshart, of course, you know or she's the American

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Speaker 2: singer and front woman of the band The Kills. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I have come to know you through our

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Speaker 2: mutual friend Savannah, but also through Tim Cadiente. I think

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Speaker 2: many years ago. Well it feels like years ago, but

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty he sent me your Karma book and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think I had met you at that point. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I was just like, this woman is awesome. I

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Speaker 2: have to meet her. And of course I love you

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Speaker 2: instantly because you're tall and because you're cool. But there's

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Speaker 2: so much more, And just as we've got to know

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Speaker 2: each other, it's been so fun to hang out with

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Speaker 2: you and just hear what's on your mind. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you truly are a multifaceted artist. I think people might

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Speaker 2: know you from music, but there's so much more there,

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Speaker 2: as Matt just alluded to. So I'm super excited to

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Speaker 2: talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm really excited to be here, and I like

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Speaker 3: staying busy.

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Speaker 2: You just had a birthday.

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Speaker 1: Happy.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, Okay, amazing happy. We are all Scorpios in

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Speaker 2: this room, so I already go very good about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm the first day of Sagittaria, so I'll just

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Speaker 3: tweek it out. Okay, It's like a new frontier when

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, wait, you're in November third, okay, And Hannah,

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Speaker 1: you're in November.

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Speaker 2: Sixteenth, sixteenth, Happy Hannah, Thanks, thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So I don't feel like the Challenger gets the

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Speaker 1: credit it deserves. To me, it is one of the meanest,

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Speaker 1: baddest looking muscle cars or the baddest looking muscle cars

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Speaker 1: that made it sense, I agree. And whenever, you know,

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Speaker 3: It's like if you took a sixteen passenger van and

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Speaker 3: And then I watched it like near thirty times and

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Speaker 3: then I would just have it on in the background

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Speaker 3: on mute. Obsessed with that car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and I an amazing movie. And also it's

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Speaker 1: the vanishing point.

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Speaker 3: You can go to a shop and get the DVD.

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Speaker 1: Yes, true. And I saw the car, the original car,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, we need to actually say. Allison owns a

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Speaker 2: couple Challengers, as I recall, can you tell us a

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Speaker 2: little bit about your cars, the specifics how you found them.

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Speaker 2: And I also want to hear about your dad because

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Speaker 2: I know he's got a history in cars too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew. I mean, my dad is still a

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Speaker 3: used car dealer. He's never going to stop working. He

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Speaker 3: You know, what I thought was, what didn't you like

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Speaker 3: a lot of things? But you know, I always really

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Speaker 3: I would get so excited. I'd want to touch it

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Speaker 3: But the Challengers, getting the Challengers happened. I'd been living

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Speaker 3: have anywhere to put one. When that Challenger started driving

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Speaker 3: literally was the impetus for me to get a house

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't need to sleep somewhere, but I

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Speaker 3: mean I was so excited, and it's the first thing

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Speaker 1: Yes, understand, I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: It was so exciting anytime to get those letters, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was a big day.

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Speaker 2: What was the spec like? Tell us some of the

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Speaker 2: this is the white one that you have, No, this

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Speaker 2: so tell us some of the specks that you chose.

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Speaker 2: And does this car have a nickname.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's called the Black Shark, which is totally ripped

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Speaker 3: from Huntress Thompson's Red Shark. And then I also have

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Speaker 3: the White Shark. So I think this is just what's

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Speaker 3: going to happen with all my cars forever. But I

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Speaker 3: I made sure it had no sun roof because I

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Speaker 3: any kind of striping. I got the best stare you

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Speaker 3: it to the car, including like changing the shifter and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And it has these like beautiful chrome kickplates and stuff.

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Speaker 3: When you get inside and it's loud and it's fast,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing love it. From the photo I've seen of

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Speaker 1: you sitting on the hood of a Black Challenger, it's

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Speaker 3: It feels different because I have an RT in La,

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Speaker 3: the white one, which is amazing, but that black one

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Speaker 3: feels different. I mean, it's something. It's like a holy experience.

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Speaker 1: It's so cool for me to meet another challenger person.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I ever have.

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Speaker 2: You've got him a little bit dumbstruck, like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how do people when they don't realize it's you in

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Speaker 2: the car, Allison, and they pull up next to you

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Speaker 2: and you can feel them rolling up. Is there a

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Speaker 3: No, it's a little bit different now. But when I

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Speaker 1: It's so big too, it's got you, I mean what

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Speaker 1: I love about it. I test drive a different car

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Speaker 1: just a fantastic vehicle to drive because it's not at

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Speaker 3: I think you know, during the pandemic, you wouldn't think

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Speaker 3: of that as a road trip car, right, because I

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Speaker 3: guess Marleage isn't amazing anyway. Who cares. I drove it

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Speaker 3: back and forth across of the country like three times,

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Speaker 3: so wow, three times a wow, And it was the

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Speaker 3: eight hours goes by and you're like, cool, true.

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Speaker 2: Did you do that drive alone?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so walk us through, like where were you stopping.

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Speaker 2: What was your regimen in terms of I'm going to

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Speaker 2: assuming it was from Nashville to LA and back. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm good with all of it.

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Speaker 3: I think I have a strong understanding of what's right

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Speaker 3: And when you say that, they're like, yeah, there is,

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Speaker 3: Well? I think you know it's it's always Jamie and

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Speaker 3: I think that they are. There are fewer, but it's

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Speaker 1: Right, it probably stops early if it does. I'm just thinking, like,

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Speaker 3: But I love those vans you just mentioned. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean this is a good list, but yeah, I know,

440
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Speaker 3: I know what you mean.

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Speaker 2: I for me, I hate getting pitched a story about

442
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: a woman simply doing her job. But somehow, because there

443
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Speaker 2: are fewer women in that field, it's this some pr

444
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: firm thinks she should be written about. And I'm like,

445
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Speaker 2: this should be normalized and I'm not gonna write about

446
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Speaker 2: a woman simply doing her job.

447
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Speaker 3: And I just think it's it's gonna be a while.

448
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Speaker 2: Even still you feel like, oh.

449
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Speaker 3: Definitely, look who we just selected. We're going backwards. We're

450
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Speaker 3: going backwards at a million miles an hour. Yeah. I

451
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Speaker 3: mean it's important to fight for those things to be

452
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Speaker 3: normalized and to be okay. But men, we're up against it.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's it's interesting. I could really go down

454
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Speaker 2: this path with you. And I know that this is

455
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Speaker 2: a car car related podcast, Rome, but.

456
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Speaker 1: You know it's amazing men's club last night. No, it

457
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: was so traditional and there are pictures of horses on

458
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Speaker 1: the wall.

459
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Speaker 2: Was yeah, I will say, Matt Has it seems that

460
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Speaker 2: you've always been surrounded by strong, accomplished women.

461
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Speaker 1: So you're, well, that's my m that's how I succeed

462
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Speaker 1: in life, honestly, because I recognize that that the same

463
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Speaker 1: kind of thing that Joan Jet had. I know a

464
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Speaker 1: lot of women, and you know I'm here in TV broadcast,

465
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Speaker 1: they have too. H If you see a successful, strong

466
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Speaker 1: woman who's doing great things, she's bound to achieve because

467
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Speaker 1: she's already come through to this point. Yeah, you know, yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: it's yeah, but no, let's get back to cars.

469
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Speaker 3: Okay, I just have it I just want to ask you, Hanna,

470
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Speaker 3: did you ever get to drive or is it even drivable?

471
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Speaker 3: Or has it been an option to drive that electric

472
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Speaker 3: charger yet?

473
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Speaker 2: You know what I.

474
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Speaker 3: Want to hear.

475
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you asked that because I'm going

476
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Speaker 2: to drive that on December seventh. Sweet, Yes, and I've

477
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Speaker 2: you I will be texting you about that. I I

478
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Speaker 2: literally told my editor I have to do this. Alison

479
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: moss Art has been asking me about it.

480
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Speaker 3: Have you done?

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Speaker 2: It's happening December seventh. I'm so excited to be able

482
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Speaker 2: to report back to you.

483
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Speaker 3: I'm putting that in my own diary and I'm not

484
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Speaker 3: even going to be there, but I'm just excited. Yeah.

485
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Speaker 2: Right, So this means that you are you not necessarily

486
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Speaker 2: opposed to an electric car.

487
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Speaker 3: I'm not opposed to anything. If it's awesome, you.

488
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Speaker 2: Know, it's great to the day.

489
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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't like most electric car. I don't like that

491
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Speaker 3: they make no sound. It's just so creepy to me.

492
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Speaker 3: I don't like it at all. Well, a lot of

493
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Speaker 3: the way it feels inside it kind of is jerky

494
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Speaker 3: and strange. It's like somebody could make something that felt

495
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Speaker 3: good and sounded good, and.

496
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Speaker 1: That's the hope for this. I think everyone who about

497
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Speaker 1: cars has looked at it, and I saw just on

498
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Speaker 1: Instagram that allowing employees to drive it around, and you

499
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Speaker 1: know that it's coming. A woman or a guy working

500
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Speaker 1: at a Dodge factory building muscle cars is going to

501
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Speaker 1: be probably anti EV, especially I mean obviously the automakers,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, they're really the employees are not happy about

503
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Speaker 1: the EV transition, but they all look so shocked and

504
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Speaker 1: excited when they got out. I'm sure. I'm sure it

505
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Speaker 1: lays down a lot of rubber.

506
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Speaker 2: You know, it's for sure it's going to be I mean,

507
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Speaker 2: we you already mentioned it. It feels like such a

508
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Speaker 2: heavy car, you know, I'm really curious this. Obviously, the

509
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Speaker 2: electric version is going to be heavier than the combustion engine,

510
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Speaker 2: but I wonder, but they have to make it faster,

511
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Speaker 2: so you know, there's a trade off. I'm sure.

512
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Speaker 1: By the way, you know what the the eternal search

513
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Speaker 1: of lightness. I don't think everyone is down with that.

514
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Speaker 1: I know that a lot of car enthusiasts want lighter,

515
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Speaker 1: but some people like the feel of a heavy vehicle.

516
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Speaker 1: I always think of Harley's versus others. You know, people

517
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Speaker 1: complain about this seven eight, nine hundred pound Harley's, but

518
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Speaker 1: they're heavy for a reason. They really increase stability on

519
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Speaker 1: the road, and I feel that when I'm driving like

520
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Speaker 1: big electric trucks too. I don't mind nine thousand pounds

521
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Speaker 1: if it's being propelled with the two hundred and ten

522
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Speaker 1: kilo hour battery.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the only point of having a super light car,

524
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Speaker 3: write is to race it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

526
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Speaker 3: Well, come on, guys, we're not just racing around.

527
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Speaker 2: Come on now, we need to talk about Yeah, this

528
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Speaker 2: sound thing seems like a really important thing. You've mentioned

529
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Speaker 2: it several times, Allison, and obviously given your line of work,

530
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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. So are you. Are you opposed to

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Speaker 2: sound that's like synthetic in an electric vehicle?

532
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Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna have to be, isn't it. Yeah, just

533
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Speaker 3: to be really really good.

534
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Speaker 2: So it could be good just because it's fabricated and

535
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Speaker 2: isn't coming from you know, weird one.

536
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Speaker 3: To work out, because again it's like total feel, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I also think if you don't, if you're not

538
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Speaker 1: opposed to a drum machine, then you can't be opposed

539
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Speaker 1: to a sound.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it would take somebody to really record,

541
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Speaker 3: you know, a challenger or anything like that, at every

542
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Speaker 3: kind of speed, at every kind of turn, at every

543
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Speaker 3: kind of stop. And God, wouldn't it suck if you're

544
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Speaker 3: a little radio that played this sounds suddenly was on

545
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Speaker 3: the fritz. Yes, and all the sounds are in the

546
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Speaker 3: wrong place.

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Speaker 1: And it was like, I don't know enough about what

548
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: makes the electric charger noisy, but I don't think it

549
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Speaker 1: comes through the radio. I think they've done something. They've

550
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Speaker 1: put some other gadget on the electric motor somehow to

551
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Speaker 1: make a noise like a kazoo. You know, fantastic, except

552
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: for I hope it sounds better than a kazoool.

553
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Speaker 2: You never know. I mean it actually could be.

554
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Speaker 3: I mean you can change out your kazoos. Have a

555
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: set of kazoos, different ones for different moods.

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Speaker 1: I love like these Mercedes evs that have differentferent sounds

557
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: you can choose from. I think it's great. I've loved

558
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Speaker 1: it ever since I first started driving them. And of

559
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: course I was I would say, like, I'm against fake

560
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: sounds in cars.

561
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: What's it like?

562
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Speaker 1: But if it's a good sound, I'm not against it.

563
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Speaker 1: If it makes it enjoyable for me to put the

564
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Speaker 1: pedal down.

565
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Speaker 2: Then. Yeah, you know, I think I think all synthetic

566
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: sounds are bad. To be honest, she's a purist. I don't.

567
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Speaker 2: I don't like them. I mean i'd rather I'd rather

568
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: just have nothing than something fakes. Yeah, in silence, I mean,

569
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Speaker 2: do you listen to music when you drive?

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

571
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Speaker 2: What do you listen to? All different kinds.

572
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: You listen to? Yeah, all different things. I also listened

573
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: to a lot of NPR, to be honest.

574
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love Terry Gross.

575
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: Yep, me too.

576
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Speaker 2: Alison, tell us where you like to drive when you're

577
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: in LA. Do you have special drive routes or No?

578
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: I don't really, you know, just whear from going.

579
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Speaker 3: It's fine.

580
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's not like you're going to go drive up

581
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Speaker 2: the coast on pach or up Angelie's Press. No.

582
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Speaker 3: But I've done those things and I love those things.

583
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: Yea.

584
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: And I love going for long drives. I love it

585
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: when there's something I have to do that's like three

586
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: hours away.

587
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: I gets so excited about that. Is the driving grade

588
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: in Nashville.

589
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: I don't know it at all. Well, we have a

590
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: huge traffic problem now, but most times of day. It's

591
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: empty and like a racetrack. It's really nice.

592
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: So you live in you have a place in Nashville, right,

593
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: You have a place in London or did?

594
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: Yes? And Jamie and I back in the day. This

595
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: is where we started the band and lived and we

596
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: still have this flat there that we use when we're

597
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: over on that.

598
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: You're from Florida, right, correct?

599
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: And lay I'm in LA some of the time.

600
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Speaker 1: Okay the time. So is there one place where you're

601
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Speaker 1: like where you think of it as the driving place,

602
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: the place where you go. I guess you keep your

603
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: black Shark in Nashville.

604
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Speaker 3: I mean you just have to drive in LA and Nashville.

605
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: There's no other way to do anything. So I think

606
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: of those places like that and London.

607
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Speaker 1: I'm I lived in London for years, but I don't

608
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: like that they have the steering wheel on the wrong

609
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: side of it. Nobody it's unchangeable. It's impossible to change right.

610
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Speaker 1: They'll never be able to change to the correct side

611
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: of the road. In Australia, in Japan, in England.

612
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Speaker 2: Do you ever drive in London?

613
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Speaker 3: I have tried one time and a girlfriend and she

614
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: had this little stick shift like a little bug or something,

615
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: and I lasted less than five minutes. I couldn't understand

616
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: shifting with the wrong hand, and then I couldn't I

617
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: had no perspective of I just thought I was going

618
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Speaker 3: to hit everything and everybody. And I don't think I

619
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Speaker 3: got up past about ten miles an hour.

620
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Speaker 2: You know. That was terrifying. Yeah, that's just so much anxiety. Yeah,

621
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Speaker 2: created it.

622
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Speaker 3: But I really like to learn in the country, I

623
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: won't feel so I just pedestrians and bikes everywhere, buses everywhere.

624
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: It's like, this is not how I should learn to

625
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: do this. No, no, I'll get there. I have to

626
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: learn how. It's ridiculous not to know.

627
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: But well, although I don't think the personally, and you

628
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: know what, I have no problem you know, being driven.

629
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Speaker 2: Just because you can drive doesn't mean you have to

630
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: be driven or you have to drive all the time.

631
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm confident enough in my own skills that I

632
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: love being driven around. Personally, it's nice, it's really nice.

633
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: You get to see the sites more. Really.

634
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

635
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: I spent all my time in London on a VESPA

636
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: of it's a great VESPA city, you know, And I

637
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: would I lived in Chelsea and I worked in the city,

638
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: so you would just drive down the embankment all time,

639
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it was perfect. It was like the

640
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: same on a Vespa as in the tube. So it

641
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: was like do I want dead skin cells this morning

642
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: or fresh air? You know, and you decide depending on

643
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: what you're in the mood, for sure, And yeah.

644
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: It's always hard to know how you're gonna.

645
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Okay, tell us. We talk about forever cars a lot,

646
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm assuming I know they answered this, but

647
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: do you have a forever car, the car that the

648
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: one car that you won't give up.

649
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be the Black Shark. I

650
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: just never want to give it up.

651
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've had it twenty Yeah, I'm such a

652
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: big fan of owning cars for a long time.

653
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, and it's doing great. Yeah, I treat

654
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: it very very well.

655
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

656
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: So you've taken photos of yourself on the Challenger and

657
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: do you do you do you put those pictures an exhibit?

658
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Do you take pictures of other cars? Like do you

659
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: paint cars or do you make songs about cars or

660
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: cars involved in and everything?

661
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in everything. I mean, Karma is a good

662
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: example of that. It was just like you could just

663
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 3: go on and on and on and on writing Karma writing.

664
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm getting it because I saw the cover, so

665
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: it's c A R.

666
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

667
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Man, I was thinking when you said and.

668
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: I apologize, I really apologize.

669
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Well, I don't prepare for these things.

670
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: He wasn't well we know that he was not going

671
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: to come in today at all, So I really on

672
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: behalf of Bloomberg. Sorry that anything you wanted to.

673
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I was listening to the Dead Weather all day.

674
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: You know that's cool, which is cool.

675
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: This is great, This is really great.

676
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: I love painting cars and I love, you know, writing

677
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: about them and photographing them. And those pictures you saw

678
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: me sitting on my car, I didn't take those. A

679
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: friend took those. And it was right around when I

680
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: got it, and I was like, I need portraits of

681
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 3: myself with my car. It was like taking a portrait

682
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: with my mother. You know what I mean. You just

683
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: needed for the album. This is posterity. It's so important.

684
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: But man, that's a good looking car. I mean, every

685
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: angle you shooted that it's just fantastic.

686
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: I just really like it because you know, I know

687
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: I've read before that Genesis for karma really came. I

688
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: think you had gone to you were talking with like

689
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: Richard Prince about cars. Yeah, and this was in like

690
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty year or maybe even earlier.

691
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: Nineteen, Okay, I think it was nineteen or yeah.

692
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I remember reading something about you saying,

693
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, it could have been five hundred pages, just

694
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: because there's I just love the fact that you just

695
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: pull Everything is material, and that's how I really feel

696
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: about the best writers. You know, everything just as you

697
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: move through life is material, and all it takes is

698
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: actually putting it down whatever medium.

699
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: Seeing it, collecting and realizing what it is. You know. Yeah,

700
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: it was so fun. I was in New York. I

701
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: met Richard Prince, who's one of my all time favorite

702
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 3: living artists, and he's showing me these like his car

703
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 3: doors and his hoods and all these things, and I'm like, man,

704
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: this is the coolest day of my life. And that

705
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: trip in New York, it was just like that. I

706
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: saw so much art, I saw plays, I saw these things.

707
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: My head was just getting like crammed full of total

708
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: joy and inspiration. And I was on the plane going

709
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: back to Nashville, I thought, you know what, I'm going

710
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: to do when I get home, I'm going to write

711
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 3: a book. I think I'm going to write a book.

712
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be an art book. And I started

713
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: that night and one month later I finished it. Wow,

714
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: and that I could have kept on going. The problem

715
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: was I couldn't afford to make print any more pages,

716
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: so I had to stop because if I wanted to

717
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: actually make.

718
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: It, you were paying for your own printing.

719
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: I did the first five hundred Wow, I had printed.

720
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: And would you recommend that? I mean, that is really

721
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: taking a step out into the unknown.

722
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: But you know, it was like an art piece and

723
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: it's great, and I got rid of them, and off

724
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: the back of doing that and being able to send

725
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: it around and stuff, you know, then got it published.

726
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: This is not a money making thing, and I think I

727
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: made a dollar from this, but it was the most

728
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: enjoyable project ever and I didn't lose anything, you know.

729
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: In fact, it just makes me want to do it

730
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: again immediately.

731
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Where did you? Where did you do? All the shots?

732
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 3: All the shots from the mean inside the book, they're

733
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: from my entire life. I mean, I went through all

734
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: my archives and all my drawers and all my books

735
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: and just started realizing this incredible thread that I had

736
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: been collecting car stuff and art stuff and those things

737
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: that combined that felt like they were one of the same.

738
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: That's amazing. To give examples, Why did I know about

739
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: this before?

740
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: It's like a kaleidoscope of life and music and cars

741
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: and art and graffiti and New York and LA like

742
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, it's really cool.

743
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: But it's from tours and yeah, there's.

744
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: All sorts of things. I mean, there's shots from my

745
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: very first punk band I was in our tour van,

746
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: like tornadoes and parking, lots of truck stops and things.

747
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: You know, there's just all this I just going through.

748
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, man, it could have been

749
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: so vague, which just means I need to do it again,

750
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: you know, some other next level of it. But it

751
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: was fine. It was like I learned, you know, you

752
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: learn something about yourself and you're doing something like that,

753
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: You're like, I've always loved this since the beginning, since

754
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: I was a little kid, and it's all there.

755
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: Did you start out thinking that you would be an

756
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: art an artist rather than a musician.

757
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: I never thought about what I was going to be,

758
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: but I was always making art. And I always loved music,

759
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: and I was going to I was doing so much

760
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: art in school. My mom was an art teacher, so

761
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: that's just what I was doing as a kid. And

762
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: then I, you know, I kind of got into skateboarding

763
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: with some neighborhood friends, and skateboarding comes with music, and

764
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: then I became obsessed with music. And the skateboarding for

765
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: me was like the art on the bottom of the board,

766
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: the clothes that's like, you know, all of that stuff,

767
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: the fanzines and everything. This is just like dreamy to me.

768
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: And so and then all of us I were skating together,

769
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: started a band together, and yeah, off, I went, I'm

770
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: thirty four, So I don't know how old I am now,

771
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: but like over thirty years of in advanced that's wild.

772
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: I need to ask about the skateboarding. Can you skateboard

773
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: as a tall person?

774
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 3: Well, it used to be a bit shorter.

775
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I was going to say.

776
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: I was smaller at one point in my life.

777
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: Still I was younger.

778
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Even still though, were you tall for your age? Because

779
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: I do not skateboard, and I'm like, oh no, no,

780
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: someone who's basically six feet tall does not to be

781
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: on a need to be on a skateboard. No, it's

782
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: this isn't okay, the gravity thing is, it's right, I

783
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: need to validate my theory here.

784
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 3: No, it's very true. I was tall for my age.

785
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 3: I wasn't the best skateboarder but at all by any means.

786
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: But I really enjoyed it.

787
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: It was fun, you know, I think, you know, Initially

788
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, like, we also value shorter people, right,

789
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: because we're a room full of very tall people. But

790
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: of course, and also if you're a tall person, there's

791
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that's much more difficult. You don't

792
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: fit in a lot of sports cars, you don't on motorcycles.

793
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: I have a lot of problems with my legs, airplane seats,

794
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: you know. And then we can add skateboarding to the

795
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: list you know gave you know.

796
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: Well, I've said this before, and I don't remember if

797
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: I said it on this podcast, but I actually feel

798
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: very close to anybody who's on the edge of the

799
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: spectrum in terms of their body, whether they're very tall

800
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: or very short, or very thin or very curvy. I

801
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: actually feel that the people who are on the sides

802
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: and not in the normals quote unquote normal or average center.

803
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: I feel that I can relate to. You know, I've

804
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: got several male friends who are under the average height,

805
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: you know, and I actually feel some solidarity with them,

806
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: because people feel entitled to comment on your body, you know,

807
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: in a way that is really unfair and awkward and weird.

808
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: And so just to say, I feel close solidarity with

809
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: people whose bodies in general are not the norm.

810
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 3: We couldn't Formula one drivers, which is a shame.

811
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: This is a shame. I don't think people realize how

812
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: short those guys are.

813
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: And I'm just so little.

814
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I just came from I'm telling you, even Christian Horner,

815
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: I was, I mean, these people are are.

816
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 3: Yes.

817
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: Do people ask women all the time, tall women if

818
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: you play basketball? Because that's the thing for dudes, like everybody. Uh,

819
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: when I was, you know, younger and would meet me,

820
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: they would say, hey, did did you play basketball?

821
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: It's just a conversation standard.

822
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: I would be like, were you a jockey? You know?

823
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: What was that?

824
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: What was that F one driver who had to cut

825
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: the ends off his shoes to fit his legs? Oh,

826
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: in the car. Can't remember his name right now, I

827
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: don't remember.

828
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: I know of one who got the nerves and his

829
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: feet removed because they were so painful from scrunching them

830
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: into the car that he had them surgical.

831
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: Apparently, James Hunt cut the toes off his raising shoes

832
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: to make room for his large feet and prevent rubbing

833
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: into the cockpit.

834
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is the big we have

835
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: to go through, you know, but this is this is

836
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: another thing we can talk about Los Angeles, especially with

837
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: you know, being a woman. There are certain body types

838
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: that many women here conform to. And you know, I

839
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: know that you don't, Alison, and I don't either, but

840
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: and it's interesting to look at it, you know, from

841
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: a cultural study.

842
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Wait, what is the.

843
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know, a ton of plastic surgery and just

844
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: like you know, very polished, very homogeneous, very you know,

845
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: center center, no no personality or real style. It looks

846
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: like doctor shop that well, I can't recognize anybody anymore

847
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: because I all have the same but you know, just

848
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: where Lululemon and you know, very polished and just everything together,

849
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: but also very boring and same, you know. And it's

850
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: interesting living here, having been in New York and then

851
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: living here, it definitely confronts you. And I think I

852
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: always love meeting people, especially women who are not buying

853
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: into that. Yeah, I don't know. Do you feel that

854
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: when you're in Los Angeles?

855
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: No?

856
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sometimes you see pretty crazy stuff. But

857
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 3: I don't mind crazy stuff. I just know that that's

858
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: not for me. Yes, exactly, It's almost like a moving

859
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: art piece. If you start to think about it that way,

860
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: it gets a little interesting. That is some dedication to

861
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: really alter reality, right, Yes, so you know I can

862
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: appreciate it on that level. Do I think it's beautiful?

863
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: Is it to me like gorgeous? No, it's not. Yeah,

864
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: but that's okay because it is somebody else, you know.

865
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: You know, I always say I actually really like watching

866
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: the Beverly Hills Housewives show because I find it fascinating.

867
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: And social study.

868
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's like watching like these beautiful exotic fish, and

869
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: you know, I am not one of those fish, but

870
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: it's interesting to watch. It is really fascinating, and I

871
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: think it is nice to be in a place where

872
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: you can recognize it and also know this isn't for me,

873
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, yeah it's But I certainly do

874
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: feel it a lot stronger in LA than, for instance,

875
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: London or you know, pretty much any city, any other

876
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: city even.

877
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: I think the worst thing is just this kind of

878
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: like dominance of that kind of look or certain kind

879
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: of beauty things on Instagram that young kids are seeing.

880
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: I think that that more scares me because half of

881
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: it's fake, you know, it totally thick, you know, scares

882
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: me that, you know, young girls and young boys are

883
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: thinking that this is what I'm supposed to look like.

884
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: That's a big problem housewise of Beverly Hills. I don't

885
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: care at all.

886
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: The monoculture in general. I think I wish, you know,

887
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: and I know music has gone through this too, where

888
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: it's you know, one thing. It'd be nice to have

889
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: lots of options. And I'm curious, you know, at this

890
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: point in music, do you feel that there's it's so

891
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: fragmented now that there's not any monoculture in music.

892
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty impossible to discover new things. I

893
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: think we've been sold this idea that everything on earth

894
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: is on streaming, but we no longer have the conversations

895
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: between ourselves and that kind of social thing of like

896
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: going to record stores, really experiencing a whole record, really

897
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 3: learning about a band, really caring about a band, and

898
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: discovering because there's these playlists, there's these algorithms, these things.

899
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: We're being fed the stuff constantly, pretty much making it

900
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: impossible for new bands to ever keep going. And you know,

901
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: it's yeah, we're we're just kind of interested in like

902
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: thirty groups. Yeah, after that, you know, no one knows

903
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. It's very unusual. It's not good.

904
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: It's the opposite thing of like discovery and having access

905
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: to lots of different choices. It is the opposite of that.

906
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: Do you find a lot of new stuff that you

907
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: can really sink your teeth into? Because I think we're

908
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: all a similar age, right, and we all love music.

909
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, older than both of us matter.

910
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: I know I'm older. I know I'm older, but we're close.

911
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: I think it's really hard to find them. I just

912
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: because you no longer have music journalists, we no longer

913
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: have music magazines, we no longer have record stores, we

914
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: no longer have small venues where people play. It's a

915
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: lot harder to find them. So if they're out there,

916
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: you need somebody to tell you something.

917
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there isn't that, that's true, But I just wonder

918
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: how much of it has to for me, Like even

919
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: I'll go through a I'll go through a period of

920
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: finding a bunch of new bands all at once, you know,

921
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: and then I'll start to listen to them, and then

922
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: I realize I still want to listen to the old

923
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: stuff I grew up with, and I always go back

924
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: to the same kind of ten bands that I've listened

925
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: to since I was twenty five, you know. I Yeah,

926
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: The Dead obviously has a big enough catalog that it's easy.

927
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: But some of my favorite bands only have like three records,

928
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: so I can't listen to I mean, I can listen

929
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: to Helmets Meantime over and over and over and over.

930
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: That is that's a skateboarding record.

931
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow, deep Cut?

932
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's New York hardcore kind of. Or I

933
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: can listen to the Bad Religion, you know, forever. But

934
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: I if I find a new band, it's a it's

935
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: a new band, and I kind of like the sound

936
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: and I got into it for a second, and then

937
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I had my old bands, and I

938
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: stopped really exploring so much.

939
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Also, not at that kind of teenage age where these

940
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: things really take you over, you know, you are formed, Yeah, exactly,

941
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: those bands did that to you at that time. Now,

942
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: it's like you can appreciate music, but you're never I

943
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: don't know, are we ever going to go off on

944
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: that crazy spree where you just want to follow that

945
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: band on tour every single day of your life. I

946
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: think that changes, you know. Yeah, It's like you can

947
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: love things and you can appreciate them and you can

948
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: go to their show. But we have a different response

949
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 3: the older we get, which is a shame.

950
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Are you able to still access that in yourself?

951
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 3: Yes? For certain things I can, you know, I saw

952
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: I saw Oh my god, I wanted they called Fontaine's

953
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: DC the other day when we were playing a festival

954
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 3: somewhere in Europe, and I became completely obsessed. I could

955
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 3: not stop listening to the record. And it's like six

956
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: months straight. I do that. I get really hooked into stuff.

957
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: Six months is a solid amount of time though, so solid, yeah,

958
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: because I'll do that for like two weeks, but six

959
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: months that's dedication, I.

960
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: Want to hear.

961
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

962
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have that with any new Queens of

963
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: the Stone Age record, where I'm just like, Okay, that's

964
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: all I'm listening to for the next six months. You know,

965
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: just certain things that I get really excited about. But

966
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: Fontaine's DC. I'd never really listened to them before and

967
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: they're amazing.

968
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out.

969
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: Okay, we got to check it out. Note that I

970
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: want to know what you do when you're in New York, Like,

971
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: do you have any places you want to shout out?

972
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: And what are you working on for the future? Is

973
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: there anything you want to tell us about or can

974
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 2: tell us about.

975
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing these days.

976
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: Besides the tour. You're still touring.

977
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: Right well, I'm going to London to go do a

978
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 3: Mark Lennigan tribute concert at the Roundhouse in a couple

979
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: of days, and then you know, it's Christmas time. I

980
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 3: don't know what I'm gonna, don't know what the next

981
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: project is. I feel like again like I'm I feel

982
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: like writing. I've been feeling that this whole time. I

983
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: don't know why New York does that to me, but

984
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: it's doing it. And while I'm here, I don't know.

985
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: I just like to go see tons of art. I

986
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: have a couple of pilate studios that I'm obsessed with

987
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: and go to every day, which is where I'm going now,

988
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: and you know, just seeing my friends and walking I

989
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: just like walking a million miles.

990
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Not ever boring here to me the best part of

991
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: New York. Yeah, I mean truly and just soaking it

992
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: all in.

993
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah like that.

994
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: I think anyone listening, if you don't follow Alison on Instagram,

995
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: you know, your writing comes out even in your Instagram captions.

996
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: It's really clear and obvious that you put thought into those,

997
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: and even that short medium, you know, really hints at

998
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: the fact that you're a deep thinking person who's really

999
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: processing the world around you. So anyone listening, if you

1000
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: don't follow Alison and MOS's heart, you should because yeah,

1001
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: You're writing is even is even evident on Instagram, which

1002
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: is great.

1003
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: Thank you, Hannah Cool. Well this has been fun you guys.

1004
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Really are Yeah, I'll see you next.

1005
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: When I in La, So she was awesome and uh,

1006
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, I was just walking her out, walking her

1007
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: to the elevator, and I was like, so, I guess

1008
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: we get to hang out again?

1009
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, did you say yes?

1010
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1011
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, what is she gonna I'm not gonna

1012
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: go to London or La or National. You know, maybe

1013
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: you need to come.

1014
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: To La Matt. I mean this all of our conversations

1015
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: come back to this, I feel like, but you know,

1016
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: I got to talk to her because I need to

1017
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: find out who does her facials, because her skin is incredible,

1018
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 2: pretty flawless. It's flawless and whatever. And you know, life

1019
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: on the road with a band that's not easy living.

1020
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: You'll talk to her when you drive the electric charger

1021
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: because she really wants to know.

1022
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: She has repeatedly brought that up to me. She genuinely

1023
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 2: is curious about.

1024
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: Also, where are you are they bringing one to you?

1025
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: I am traveling to Phoenix, Arizona for a special drive

1026
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 2: of it. Isn't that interesting?

1027
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: That is awesome. I can't wait to hear what you

1028
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: think of the sound.

1029
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: Me too.

1030
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: I am kind of scared to hear what it sounds like.

1031
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: But I hope it's really good.

1032
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: I hope it has swayed interior. I hope there's fuzzy dice.

1033
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Can you call it sort of an old couch?

1034
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1035
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: During our conversation, for sure, it is a very m

1036
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: which isn't a bad thing.

1037
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: No, All right, cool. So let's go from that end

1038
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: of the spectrum to the other end of the spectrum.

1039
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: Because you have a story out on Bloomberg dot Com

1040
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: about the most expensive what will likely be the most

1041
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: expensive cars ever sold at auction and possibly but I

1042
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: was shocked by reading your story right now about the

1043
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: current most expensive car ever sold at auction. Obviously it's

1044
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 1: a Ferrari to to fifty something, but only seventeen point

1045
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: eight million dollars.

1046
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: I will that was just last year. That was just

1047
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: the most expensive car sold last year.

1048
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: This year, last year, because the actual world record must

1049
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: be more like fifty or sixty.

1050
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: It's actually one hundred and forty two million dollars. Oh

1051
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: and that was the nineteen fifty five Mercedes Benz three

1052
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: hundred SLR Ullin' out coop that sold in twenty twenty

1053
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: two in at private sale. Which the reason why we're

1054
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: bringing this up is because this Mercedes Streamliner, it's a

1055
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty four W one ninety six are Streamliner, is

1056
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: also going to be sold in a private sale at auction.

1057
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of a weird thing where it's like private,

1058
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 2: but you're invited, and it is sort of a public

1059
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: auction put on by Arms Sotheby's. The estimate on it

1060
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: right now is fifty million dollars, which I'm told is conservative.

1061
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: There's still obviously a wide gap between a fifty million

1062
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: dollar Mercedes and a one hundred and forty two million

1063
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 2: dollar Mercedes, but this one does have some bona fides.

1064
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: Of course. It was, you know, this very sleek body,

1065
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: inline eight cylinder engine racing car that was also driven

1066
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: by Fangio and Sterling Moss. Fangio, Yeah, Juan Manuel Fangio

1067
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: drove it in a Formula race in Buenos Aires in

1068
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five and he won, and Sterling Moss drove

1069
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: it in nineteen fifty five at Monza. So it's got

1070
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: like real racing heritage behind it. And this car is

1071
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: actually currently owned by the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum, which

1072
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: is selling a group of eleven cars to raise money

1073
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: to finance this huge restoration that they're doing, and this

1074
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: Mercedes is sort of the premier car that they're going

1075
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: to sell.

1076
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: Very cool, so.

1077
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big deal. And then so it's actually

1078
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: a series of three sales. So the Mercedes is one

1079
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: private sale in stute Gart that's happening in partnership with

1080
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 2: the Mercedes Benz Museum. And then the sort of second

1081
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: premier car is this Ferrari that's have you heard of

1082
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: NART Racing.

1083
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: Only from you. I know, I've read. I've read the

1084
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: acronym and AART. Yes, I don't know what it stands for,

1085
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: but I have heard about it from you talking about

1086
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: expensive cars of auction.

1087
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it stands for North American Racing Team. And

1088
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: it was just a race series that happened in the sixties,

1089
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: assorted endurance and Formula races, but this Ferrari in particular

1090
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: one lamon in nineteen sixty five, of which was a

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00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: feat not accomplished again by a Ferrari until twenty twenty three,

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00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: just last year. So it's a pretty special car too.

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00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it has any famous drivers, but it

1094
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: has real racing history. It's super rare.

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00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: That would have been the precursor to Ford versus Ferrari

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00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.

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00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: And the estimate on this is three hundred million. It's

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00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: nothing to scoff.

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00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: At three hundred million dollars.

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00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: Sorry, I know, sorry, thirty million. Take off that. I

1101
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: don't know what I was thinking. Thirty that was a

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00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: great reaction. Thirty million. Take his narrow off that thirty

1103
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: million dollars. It's going to be sold at that retromobile.

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00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: Very cool car show in Paris in February.

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00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: You're right, I think at I mean that.

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00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: Either no, and I do think that is a bit

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00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: of a conservative estimate too. I mean everyone in this

1108
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: in the auction world says, yeah, it's the same old thing.

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00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: The right car will sell. Everything else won't sell so.

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: Well, especially at I mean S and P six thousand,

1111
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: bitcoin one hundred thousand. I mean we're at levels where

1112
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: rich people are super rich right now, so they can

1113
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: afford to go and drop some of that coin. The

1114
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: other thing is you went to this amazing Italian car

1115
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: show last time. Is it fair to call it Villadesta

1116
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: car show?

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00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: It's like a concoor yeahh a car show, so concor.

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00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean people, it's It's been around

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: for a while obviously, but it didn't really come into

1120
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: my sort of field of vision until I saw you

1121
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: go there and it looks amazing. I love like Lagomajora

1122
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: and the whole area.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. Como, Yes, David, George Clooney.

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: You know I love George Clooney too, Yes?

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00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: Is he one of your guys? Is he like a

1126
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: guy you really like?

1127
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? For sure, you know Clooney and Pitt and these

1128
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: are classic holl would like they can pull off pencil

1129
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: thin mustaches, you know, by the way. I just saw

1130
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: Gladiator two.

1131
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: Oh I don't.

1132
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was bad. I didn't think it's

1133
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: not as good in my opinion as Gladiator one. But

1134
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: that's probably because I saw Gladiator one when I was

1135
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: like an angst field teenager, you know.

1136
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: But very impressionable.

1137
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: I did think that the way it was shot, you know,

1138
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: the film was a callback to those great American films

1139
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: like a Ben hur or a Lawrence Arabia. And especially

1140
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: the title actor. I don't know the guy whatever else

1141
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: he's been in, like Mescal Powell, Mescal I think is

1142
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: his name. No, no, no, not not Pedro from the

1143
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Last of Us, but this guy I think is called

1144
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: I think he's called Paul Mescal. And the lines he's given,

1145
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, the way he delivers them, and the way

1146
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: that are filmed, he really comes off like a Peter o'tool,

1147
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: like one of these classic Hollywood like he could pull

1148
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: off a pencil thin munk.

1149
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: Does he have an Irish accent in the film, No,

1150
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: he is Irish?

1151
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: Oh is he Paul Muska.

1152
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: I've just googled him, Yeah to Wikipedia.

1153
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I just he reminded me of Oh interesting, Yeah, I

1154
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: love it.

1155
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: I could see a Peter o'tool sort of his profile

1156
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm seeing. I'm seeing Ika, So, uh should I see Gladiator.

1157
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: To rush out?

1158
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what move I watched last night,

1159
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: which does hold up Casino.

1160
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: I love that movie.

1161
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: Great film. And also I just Sharon Stone is incredible,

1162
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: Like everyone talks about Peshi and Paccino and everything, but

1163
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: I feel like she doesn't get enough credit for that film.

1164
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's a.

1165
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: Credit completely. She actually came to a press dinner as

1166
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: the featured guest of honor like two years ago, and

1167
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: when she walks into the room, everything shifts. It's even still,

1168
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: you know, and especially still her. She has this whole

1169
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: powerful thing going on. It's really interesting.

1170
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she's pretty great. Yeah all right, So but

1171
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: I brought up Villadesta because oh yes, Villadesta, Villadeste, whatever

1172
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: it's called, because uh, Haggarty is gonna what are they

1173
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like take it out?

1174
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah so this is no, they're not taking it over.

1175
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: But Broad Arrow Auctions, which is owned by Haggarty, will

1176
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: be partnering with BMW to become the auction partner of

1177
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: the Concord Delegance Villadeste. So that means that there's going

1178
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: to be a sale in May next year of about

1179
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: seventy amazing cars. I mean, admittedly this is very niche news,

1180
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: but in the world of car sales and these high

1181
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: end Concord it's a big deal. And it's a really

1182
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: big get for broad Arrow. This is the first auction

1183
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: that they will have outside of the United States. They're

1184
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: a pretty young auction house, so yes, in this niche

1185
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: corner of the car world, it's pretty big news. And

1186
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: congrats to broad Aero. That's quite a git.

1187
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: And it's interesting to me because we have Mkhil Haggerty

1188
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: coming up as a guest.

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01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, everyone listening, mark your calendar, we do

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01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: have mkhil coming up. He's gonna go on TV with

1191
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: you and then with us, yes, with us. I will

1192
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: be there too, and then we need to ask him

1193
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: how this came about. It's funny. I actually saw him

1194
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: on Lake Como last year during last year's event, and

1195
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure he was laying the groundwork for this great

1196
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: news and big announcement. So I want to talk to

1197
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: him about that for sure.

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Speaker 1: Cool. All right, Well that's how we have I'm Matt

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Speaker 1: Miller and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Hannah Elliott and this is Bloomberg. H