1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian this week, as I'm driving along, I 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: just happened to be behind the car with flashing break lights. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: You're right, that is really annoying. It is illegal. I 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: wanted to establish that right up the best. Why can't 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: you fix my car? What king off? Why can't you 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: fix my car? What kin off? The car Doctor'll give 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: you a hunter bucks for the car by the way, Um, 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: you know I had you know, I had a try 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: sixty seven Chavells are just like I got a sweet 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: spot for that man. That's that's the last year of 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the square body. Right. Welcome to the radio home of 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If you're a mechanics giving you a busy signal, 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: at eight five and now he running un I never 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: noticed that we have a little bell in the open. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Is that always there, Mikey? Is that there every week? 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: That's that reminds me the days in the gas station. 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: You know you'd be sitting in the back, Tom I 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: told you now he's hearing things. Mike, No, no, no, 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: we we just added that recently. I figured it would 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: add something. Well, you know what that reminds, you know, 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and it's like, where did you start run? How did 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: you get your stuff? So I was I was sixteen 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: years old and I used a bicycle down to the 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: Texico station, which was about a mile and a half 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: from the house. And that reminds me of Saturday's right, 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, Saturday, you'd be you'd be the kid on 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: the on the on the pump side on the island, 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: and you know, you're your responsibility was obviously the pump gas, 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: clean windows, correct, change, check oil, um, you know, answer 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: any questions, directions, that kind of thing. So you were 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of like the go to person. But what I 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: remember most is you'd get to break and you'd sit 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: down on the back and the billy would send out 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: we'd go down to ho Hocus for for jelly donuts, 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: and you'd sit down in the back and you're just 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: about to put that jelly donut in your mouth and 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: you'd hear ding dang front great, you know it's just Tom. 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: That just sent shivers down my spine. Like but Yeah, 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: that's some really good time growing up in the gas station. That. Um, 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: you know what, this generation will never never here to 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: or see because it's just very different times. And then 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, after the morning horse was over, you 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: got to learn how to work on cars. You take 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: something apart and and and get it back together by 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: five o'clock, and then you take your bicycle and you 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: ride your bike back home. Um, good times in the 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: gas station. The airbell. Bo I forgot about an air hose. 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: I should probably do that, you know what, I should 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: really do that. At the house, I could get rid 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: of the doorbell. Just put an air hose across the 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: front door. People show up, ding dang front door front. 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, not bad week. Open. Let's go and talk 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: to Mark in Kentucky. Oh five kia and see what's 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: going on here? Mark? Are you there? Oh? Yes, I'm here. 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: There you go, sir, How are you brother? What's going on? 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: I've got a two thousand, five k a rhea and 61 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: I went to clean the batteries with hydrogen peroxide. I 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: don't know if that was the best thing or not, 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: but it kind of pulled a little bit on top, 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: and so I got in to drive it and pulled forward. 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, actually where it was I put in reverse, 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: and then when I went to go forward, it just 67 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: didn't move. And then I put it back in reverse, 68 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: didn't move. And ever since then, I just will not 69 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: go into gear. And if it happened any other time, 70 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: then I would know just as send it to transmission 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: decided to go out. But since it happened right after 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: I had done this, and since the transmission was working 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: perfectly fine before then, I'm thinking that it might have 74 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: splashed on something, shorted something out, maybe sent a search 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: to the computer. I was just hoping you can give 76 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: me some recommendation. Dash, no dash lights, Everything looks normal, 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: seems normal. Yeah, as far as dash readings, does the 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: prindle work, you know the park reverse drive new chill, 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Do those lights work and function normally that they're still 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: as they were prior um. Actually I don't have I'm 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: you may not. You may not have it on that model. 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: But the reason I ask that is because some of 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the key is if there is a fault in the 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: trans module or the trans system, the D light will flash, 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: the drive light will flash, It will blink a repetitive blink, 86 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: telling you there's a fault, so now look look at 87 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: that next time I turn it on. Okay, you know 88 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the The one thing that comes to mind is, you know, 89 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: unless a wire disconnected ground or you know, from the 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: ground side of the positive side, you know, it would 91 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: be kind of hard like what splashed, what got wet? 92 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: What you know, because everything is sort of environmentally protected, 93 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: so that doesn't make any sense. What I would say is, 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I would suggest two things. One, if you have a 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: scan tool, can you scan this even though there's nothing 96 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: showing in the way of a light, you know, do 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: we get any response out of the transmission? All right? 98 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: And and what I would do is I would go in, 99 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: go into the trans module and watch what I say, 100 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: foot on the brake, put it in reverse. You will 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: be able to see gear shift, select position in the 102 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: trans on the on the scan tool. If the scan 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: tool shows reversed and the car shows reverse and the 104 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: car shows drive when you put it and drive, the 105 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: computer is seeing the request. It's it's trying to work 106 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: for some reason. The trans itself has an internal issue 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: and is not working. That's that's one possibility. And I 108 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: agree it's kind of weird since the battery disconnect right. Uh. 109 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: There there is an adaptive uh trans learning procedure for 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: kias involving a scan tool and uh, you know, going 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: through and driving it at at thirty thirty degree throttle 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: angle until it warms up and then it shifts properly 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: and so on. But you're not even at that point. 114 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: You can't even get it to move anywhere. And you 115 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: know that. So I don't know that that applies. You know, 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: there's a bulletin out there if I recall correctly uh 117 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: Kia bulletin t R A zero eight team which talks 118 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: about the adaptive relearned procedure. UM, I would be curious 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: if did you take off one cable both cables neither 120 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: cable well at this point of unhooked and rehooked it 121 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: back up. But you know when I did it, I 122 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: didn't unhooked anything. I just kind of poured the hydroen 123 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: peroxide on as it was. And like I said, once 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I moved the vehicle, that a little bit pulled on 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: there came off and went down and there are some 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: wires with some stuff. I don't know what it is there. 127 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: I just didn't know if maybe it might have caused 128 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: a surge that might have screwed up the computer. Best. 129 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: I was just wondering any cheap thing because it's not 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: worth even having the transmission with that of any thing 131 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: simple I could replace out and see if it works. 132 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Tell me about the wires. What are you? What are you? 133 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? There? Um? Yeah, below it 134 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: where some of it could have splashed, or some wires 135 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: with some boxes that looked like they contained something. I'm 136 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: not sure what those would be the right, So there's 137 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: a potential. Yeah, the only way you have, you know, 138 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: somebody would have to sit and diagnose that. The only 139 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: thing you could really do, uh is either you know, 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: a make sure the wires are dried out, you know 141 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: that that there's nothing wet there. And then the other 142 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: thing that's and it's not gonna hurt anything at this 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: point is disconnect both battery cables and short them together, 144 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the cables, not the battery. Just touch the two ends 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: together and hold them together for two minutes. You know 146 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: where you could use a jumper wire and hold them 147 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: together for two minutes and just bleed all the processors down. 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, on the chance that one of the electronic 149 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: modules is locked up, we're sort of gonna you know, 150 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: you ever, you ever, you ever get your Windows computer 151 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: at home where it locks up and you have to 152 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: do a reboot. We're gonna do a reboot. And if 153 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: the battery had been out for quite a while, would 154 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: that also do it? Or do I need to do 155 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: the touch that would that would do it too? If 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: the battery had been out for quite a while? All right? 157 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: But but but well, so okay, so let me ask 158 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: that then, was the battery out for quite a while? 159 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: What has been since this has happened? I took it 160 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: out and and just taught let things reset and put 161 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: it back in. But it didn't do anything. So the 162 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: car ran the day that you cleaned the battery terminals, right, 163 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: It was just right after I board the hygiene peroxide 164 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: and then moved it to where it splashed around a 165 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: little bit. Have you that's when it stopped working. Have 166 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: you taken the battery out, looked under the tray, looked 167 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: at that wiring? Does anything look you know, burnt, damaged? Broken? 168 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: Not far as I can tell now? Okay? Um, then yeah, 169 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: short of a true diagnosis, with a scan tool and 170 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: a voltmeter, you can try doing you know, battery cables 171 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: you know, touching them well or as you say, the 172 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: battery has been out for an extended period, I see 173 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: no purpose in in touching the two cable ends together. Um. 174 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's got to be diagnosed. I mean, 175 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you just can't get away from it. But you know, 176 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: the simplest thing is the module awake. And the best 177 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: way I know to tell if the modules awake is um, yeah, 178 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: moving the gear shift. And then for that matter, if 179 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: you move the gear shift lever from park to drive, 180 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: does it change on the dashboard And if you don't 181 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: have an indicator for that doesn't show on a scan 182 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: tool at the scan tools. So set up an equip 183 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: You've got to figure out as the trans module awake. 184 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: But I've got to tell you some of this doesn't 185 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: make any sense to me because in most cases it's 186 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: rare when I see a trans that won't do anything. Uh. 187 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: You know, it may shift poorly, it may not up shift, 188 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: but at least it will go mechanically into first gear. 189 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't do anything. Um, so you know 190 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: you've either lost a major ground or connection at that 191 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: battery area, maybe not cabled, but maybe under the tray. 192 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: You know how dirty. Was the battery? Was the battery 193 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: really sulfated acid all over the place? Did it? Did 194 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: it damage the harness underneath? And you know you just 195 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: sort of aggravated it a little bit to the point 196 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: that now a wire is disconnected. Um, think of the positive. 197 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if this was the poor mechanic he 198 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: cleaned the battery terminals and imagine this. You know, Holy count, Um, 199 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: you know this is this is the issue when you 200 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: get into a car with you know that needs maintenance 201 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden one problem begets the next, 202 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: the next and the next thing. I know you don't 203 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: want to hear that, but you know, just just just 204 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: something to be aware of. So um, gott to be diagnosed. Mark, 205 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, try the things I suggested, and other than that, 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: it's got to be diagnosed. And um, you know the 207 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: best danswer I have. But I agree it sounds like 208 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: it's related to the battery cleaning, and you know that's 209 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: where you're at at this moment. I appreciate the call 210 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero ron anating the car doctor coming 211 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: back right after this. I got time righting on on 212 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: the wall, so you don't forget to call for car 213 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: advice done right eight five five five zero zero zero. 214 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Now back to raw quick piece of email. This comes 215 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: to us from Marty too and seven ray code. Hey Ron, 216 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: last weekend I heard your show and you were talking 217 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: about a company where you purchased a high power starter. 218 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: You're very happy with the product and support you received. 219 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: What was the name of the company. I have a 220 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: foreign Cubican small block board thirty over with two oh 221 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: two heads. 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I think John Babcox is 232 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: the owner if I remember right and tell him I 233 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: said hello, if you talk to them. So let's go 234 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: to the phones to talk to Chris in Pennsylvania twelve 235 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Mercedes and some bad vibrations. Chris, Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, 236 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: how can I help? Thank you? I have I loved, 237 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: but recently, UM, when I'm when I'm driving on the highway, 238 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: when the card um usually idols around like a thousand 239 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: rpm going eighty miles down the highway, but when it 240 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,359 Speaker 1: gets between fifteen pms, it's I started getting a vibration. 241 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: And I wasn't sure if it was the engine or 242 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: the transmission. So if I if I accelerate and the 243 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: RPMs jumped, then I get nothing. And it evens out. 244 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: And and I drive to and from work, and on 245 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: the way to work, I noticed I set the cruise 246 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: control on eighty and when I start uphill, and this 247 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: one certain area where it goes up through the mountains 248 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: is where it happens, I get the vibration. But coming home, 249 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't get any vibration at all. Now, UM, last 250 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: time I had it looked at UM, the the mechanics 251 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: mentioned that the motor mounts. There was something about the 252 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: motor mounts. I it's a high performance car, so I 253 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: run it very fast a lot of times, a lot 254 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: of quarter miles and a lot of hundred forty mile 255 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: for extended period. But it does that sound more like 256 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: a motor, like like an engine thing or a transmission thing. Chris, 257 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: where are you going hunter for Pennsylvania Turnpike? O? No, No, 258 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: there's a there's a stretch of Hiawa between State College 259 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: and Altoona. It's clear dry and there's always some subru 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: w r X or something wants to wants to test me. 261 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: So okay, he says, But the cars, you know, the 262 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: cars built for it's an a MG in the skies. 263 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: It's got the AMG motor the my point five this 264 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: is Camaro is what this is? I get it. I 265 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: know what you're saying. Um, and I do the maintenance 266 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: on it, and you know the tires and everything. But 267 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: so it's odd that you know, like when I drive 268 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: it around town nothing. I'd be curious if you can 269 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: get it into that vibration zone if as it were, 270 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: and if you took it out of it's probably what 271 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: is it a five speed or or a six speed? 272 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: Trans It's uh, it's a seven speed. And then what 273 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: if you what if you manually pull it down into 274 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: the next lower gear. Yeah, it'll it'll come out of that. See. Yeah, 275 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: what I thought is I thought it was like gear six, 276 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, likes I kick it down so the RPMs 277 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: go up to two thousand and and and it's smooth. 278 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's engine rpm related. Well, yeah, because 279 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: that's where I noticed it. Because like if I get 280 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: on and on ramp and I go zero to a hundred, 281 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: I do it in two gears nothing, it's it's perfect. 282 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: It car pulls hard and strong. It's only when I'm 283 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: driving along. And then I started handing up a gradual 284 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: inkline and then the RPM start to the it's it's 285 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: you sort of you sort of find that sweet spot 286 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: where the vibration comes in. And I don't you know, 287 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: and I don't care if it's a Mercedes or a 288 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: Chevrolet or a Maserati or whatever. Dynamics and physics are 289 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: all the same. So we know there's the RPM band. 290 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Now we have to figure out why. You know, I 291 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: would also venture to guess if you got it up 292 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: to that RPM band speed where it was happening, and 293 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: popped it into neutral, I bet it would go away, 294 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: because I bet it's not chassis speed related. It's engine 295 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: speed related. Right, So I've got to think more towards engine. 296 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you 297 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: every diagnosis starts at the same place. Now in a 298 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: modern car, you're gonna plug in, You're gonna you're gonna 299 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: plug a scan tool in and see what you get. Hey, 300 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: you know you get nothing. You know, no codes. Everything's clean. 301 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: You know what it's not? All right? You know, fixing 302 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: a car is no different. You know, every time you 303 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: go to the doctor. You ever notice every time you 304 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: go to the doctor, you know, my g doc, my 305 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: left toe hurts. What's the first thing the nurse does. 306 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: She takes your blood pressure and heart rate every time. 307 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just they're looking at basics. And 308 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: that's what we still do on cars and you just 309 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, so a scan, just scan it. Do you 310 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: have any full codes? Yes? No. Um. What I think 311 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: about when I think about Mercedes, especially this is I 312 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: believe this has an active duty dampening motor mounts setup 313 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: that I believe they pulse with control the motor mounts 314 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: for vibration vibration prevention, vibration control. And I'm wondering if 315 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: it's working correctly, and I'm wondering if we've got a 316 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: mount tissue. Is that just happens to be the spot 317 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: where the failures occurring? And then that might be because, 318 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: like I said, the last time I took it in um, 319 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: he mentioned something about the mounts and I wasn't paying 320 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: attention because I'm like clad, I got dollars on the mount. 321 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Are you want to go on any backstreet? You gotta 322 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: pay for that, brother, Um that comes, that comes at 323 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: a price. So let me ask let me ask you 324 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: this question. What year did you graduate high school? Nineteen 325 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: eighty four? Okay, what was the fastest car in the 326 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: high school parking lot? In four? That was? So you 327 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: have the iraq Z did you all mat or was 328 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: it your buddy? Uh? No? I built one right, I 329 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: and and and back then it was no holds barred 330 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: whatever it took. Yes, right, it hasn't changed. You gotta understand. 331 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: The animals gotten more complicated and it's more expensive. Initially, 332 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: how much was that a MG? Chris? Come on, tell 333 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: us hundred fifty? Oh no, no, no, I I used 334 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: to work for G M. A C. That there's financing, 335 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: So I buy them off lease at the rich rich 336 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: guys buy them and then when they're done with some 337 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: I take them off least because they still have warranty 338 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: and stuff. So how much? How much? How much was 339 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: that car? No? No, I got it forty five because 340 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: I negotiate it so so you still got You still 341 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: got some room to go, get it diagnosed, get the 342 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: motor mounts port and don't forget the possibility of a 343 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: software update to improve how those motor mounts react to 344 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: But um, I think that's your head in the right direction. Chris, 345 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: A pleasure talking to you. I'll run on any and 346 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Don't go away. 347 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Run in any of the Car Doctor five 348 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: five zero, chase out on Facebook, Run on any in 349 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. An email. I've been I've been threatening 350 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: to read up here on air for this this weekend, 351 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: um Ron catching up on your show via podcast. A 352 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: couple of pieces of info for you. This comes to 353 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: us from John. My apologies if you corrected these in show. 354 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: If you have to listen to you spoke of Testlas 355 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: servis going down and making it impossible to unlock and 356 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: drive the car. That could only that would only affect 357 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: the app on the phone for the remote start. You 358 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: should be you would be able to unlock and drive 359 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: the car with a FOB or card, depending on the model. 360 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: My reply was and at the time, the news was 361 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: reporting that vehicle owners were locked out of vehicles, And 362 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: that's the way I left it. I you know, And 363 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: and if it's not true, okay, if it is true, 364 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: it still comes down to how dependent we are on 365 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: technology with these cars. Back to John's comments, you also 366 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: spoke of breaking down in the middle of nowhere. Who 367 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: can fix it? Many times, if something acts up, I 368 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: can basically reset the car by pressing a couple of buttons. 369 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: If that doesn't take care of it, test the service 370 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: can connect, the car, can connect to the car and 371 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: repair and the software glitch no matter where I am. 372 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: I doubt a similar issue can be fixed in a 373 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: regular car without getting towed to a dealer. Yeah, but 374 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: the point becomes, what happens when that reset doesn't work? 375 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: Who's going to fix it? You're missing the point. What 376 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: happens when the blue screen of death comes up? Like 377 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: your computer? What happens when the blue screen of death 378 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: comes I want to see them do that in Wyoming. 379 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: Nothing against Wyoming, and not that I wish a Tesla 380 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: upon you, but I want to I want to see 381 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: them do that in Wyoming, in the middle of nowhere 382 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: John happens to live. I believe I'm gonna guess in 383 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: sample on Cape Cod. I kind of got that impression 384 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: here somewhere, um but somewhere in the northeast. It's very 385 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: different when you're in other parts of the country. So 386 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: don't say it's gonna work anywhere. I get it. My 387 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: answer was, I see your point, but understand, computer resets 388 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: and flashing does not always work. At some point you 389 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: will be stuck in A technician will be needed. Where 390 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: will you be near a major population hub or in 391 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: the or is the coverage as good in Wyoming as 392 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: it is in Cape Cod, Boston, New York City, et cetera. 393 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: And I think this is the most important part about 394 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: electric vehicles my opinion. At the diameter of the circle 395 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: of technology grows, so does the perimeter of potential problems, 396 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: just like in internal combustion engine vehicles. And you've got 397 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: to realize that. Back to John, he said, I goot 398 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: to use Tesla model as a year ago, and I've 399 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: been happy with it. It's plugged in nightly and always 400 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: has a full tank. Of fuel. Traveling is no problem 401 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: since superchargers are placed pretty well along interstates and other roots. 402 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: There's even one near Cape Cod. It's in Sagaware Beach 403 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: near Dunkin Donuts. Wow, one supercharger serving all of Cape Cod. 404 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: It's not like that could get backed up in the 405 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: middle of winter, and as I wrote back to them, 406 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of summer. The Cape Cod charger is 407 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: new for my understanding. As for the rest of them 408 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: were My question is who pays for the installed the 409 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: electricity being supplied, You me, all of us, and when 410 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: the days come to electricity is in much higher supply, 411 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: will the infrastructure be there to support it or in demand? UM. 412 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: I enjoy your show and very impressure with your knowledge. 413 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: I understand having a bias in favor of mainstream technology. 414 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: I kind of take exception to that. I don't have 415 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: a bias against technology. If anything, I have to I 416 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: deal with technology every day. You've got to understand what 417 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: you're getting on this show is my interaction with technology 418 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: and the successes and the failures. This isn't I'm not 419 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: up here, listen. I'm not stupid enough to think that 420 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: I can control three fifty million Americans and force you guys, 421 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: not the bio electric vehicle. I'd be a jackass if 422 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: I thought that. But you know it's if you have 423 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: to bleep that, Mikey, I don't care. So you know, 424 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: the point becomes, though, I've got to make you aware 425 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: of of of of Tom saying he is anyway, So 426 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: what differ doesn't make I heard that. Um. The point 427 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: is you've got to be aware of what you're getting into, 428 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: all right, Um, and I responded, I don't see it 429 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: as biased truth be told, I try not to limit 430 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: my bias leaning towards practicality and common sense, or I 431 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: try to bias lean needs more towards practicality and common sense, 432 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: and as the truth. I try to present hard facts 433 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: and situations. I may not always be successful at it. 434 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I think electric cars have their place, but they're not 435 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the holy grail we're making it out to be for 436 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: many reasons, both mechanical, technical, and thirdly economic. As John 437 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: continues and closes, you've been immersed in You've been immersed 438 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: in it for decades and it served you well. I 439 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: would just like you to be a little more open 440 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: to electronic technology, or at least do a bit more 441 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: research for me making statements against it. Thanks for letting 442 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: me give my opinion, I and I wrote back, John, 443 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: I always appreciate my listeners opinions and beliefs. Thanks for 444 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: taking the time. Have a great day, John Youtubo regards wrong. 445 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: You know what, I wouldn't have a radio show without 446 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: every one of you, And I mean that. Believe me. 447 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna let me sit up here and and and 448 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: and talk to empty empty airwaves. It just it doesn't apply. 449 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: But if I don't tell you my experience, if I 450 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: don't try to point out some of the things I see, 451 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: who will the car manufacturer? You really think GM those 452 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: what you know, has your better interest at heart? And 453 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: by what are they gonna have seventeen or twenty three 454 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: electric platforms out there? Do you really think that's the 455 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: way of the world. Nobody seems to be able to 456 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: answer the question what will big oil do? How a 457 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: little affect us economically? Are we gonna be able to 458 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: do computer resets to electric vehicles in the middle of Wyoming? 459 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: Where will the technicians come from? It's so hard to 460 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: get mechanics now technicians if we want to use that term. 461 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: The local land rover dealer has a twenty thousand dollars 462 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: signing bonus. Okay, think about that for a minute. You're 463 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: gonna get a twenty grand signing bonus if you go 464 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: to work at the land Rover dealer and stay. I 465 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: think it's up to two years as a technician. They're 466 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: servicing their vehicles. That's how tough it is. And it's 467 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: not like you can get somebody up to speed lickety split. 468 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: The amount of training and education it could take a year. 469 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna bring out an electric vehicle, you know what? 470 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: Are we gonna just swap parts? Um tires or tires? 471 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: Breaks or breaks, I guess. But then the electronic problems, 472 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: the electrical problems. I recently attended SCOPE class down here 473 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: in New Brunswick, New Jersey, and I was the only 474 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: stupid mechanic from North Jersey because I was the only 475 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: one in the room. Everybody else was from Central and 476 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: South Jersey. And we say that kind of tongue in 477 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: cheek because I guess everybody else is so smart they 478 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: don't need the class. And it's not like scope classes 479 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: come up all that often. I was fortunate I only 480 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: had to travel an hour and fifteen minutes each way 481 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: to get to mind. I know guys that are traveling, 482 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, miles to get to a scope class, spending 483 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: three or four days in that in that city or town, 484 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: and then going back home to work. You know, it's 485 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: not a matter of not wanting to embrace the technology. 486 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: I have legitimate concerns in my opinion of of how 487 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: are we going to deal with this and at what price. 488 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: Not everybody can afford an electric vehicle, not everybody can 489 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: afford to repair an electric vehicle, and not everybody needs 490 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: an electric vehicle, and it's going to change us in 491 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: many many ways that we're just not we're just not 492 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: aware of so Um. But I'm being very straight and 493 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: honest John Um. I'm really proud of you that you 494 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: wrote in with your opinion. I want your opinion. I 495 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: want everybody's opinion. I don't care if I get ten 496 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: thousand of these, I will go through each and everyone 497 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: and present them because your opinion counts. That's what this 498 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: rate your show is about, Um, And I mean that 499 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: in no sincerity from the bottom of my heart. Zero 500 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: the car doctors coming back right after this, Welcome back Nardicle. 501 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to frank In Delaware. Frank, you've been listening 502 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: to my babbling for twenty minutes, sir. I appreciate your patients. 503 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh? I'm fine, Ron? How are 504 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: you doing good? Sir? What's going on? Just a question. 505 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking of purchasing a Silverado and I was 506 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: doing some reach out Johnline, and then I, uh, something 507 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: caught my eye. This uh uh proverbial. I don't know 508 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: if it's science fiction or if it's fact. What they're 509 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: calling a Chevy shake. They're they're in some SUVs and 510 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, both GM vehicles and you know, General Motors. 511 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of that. I 512 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: have to tell you I have not, and you know, 513 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: you kind of made me turn my head to the 514 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: side and go huh um. And I've if if there's 515 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: one thing, I've had a few of its SUVs and 516 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: pickups all from General Motors Chevrolet specifically, so I I 517 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: have not seen or experienced that. I'd love to see 518 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: what model years they're talking about. UM. I know Ford's 519 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: got some issues right now with the the the steering 520 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: shake on the nineteen UM two fifties and three fifties, 521 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: and there's a steering damper replacement and they're doing some alignment, 522 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: some castor adjustment and things like that. But I have 523 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: not seen this as a as an issue on GM 524 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: any idea what model years they're saying is affected now 525 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: just I I didn't pay too much attention to that. 526 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: Just uh that people have videos of uh, I don't 527 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: know if faith modified, and it seems like a good 528 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: portion of are modified. Degree you know, from that point. 529 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: Do you ever notice do you ever notice, um, you 530 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: ever go to car shows, Frank just locally, Yeah, you 531 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: know you got to you go to you go to 532 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: cruise car shows, and um, you know, you'll see that 533 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: guys have their hot rods and they've they've modified their 534 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: their their their cooling system, they've got different diameter pulleys, 535 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: and those seem to be the cars that always overheat 536 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: and they don't really run right and they're heavily modified, 537 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: et cetera. Do you ever do you ever think that 538 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: people just sort of create their own misery because they 539 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: don't understand that the dynamics and physics of what it 540 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: is they're trying to do. Um, you know, yeah, uh, 541 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, somebody wants asked me because I don't I 542 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: don't lift the hood on the hot rod offen And 543 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: obviously I got a zillion questions when I do, and 544 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: somebody wants to ask me. They said, hey, how can 545 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: you lift the pulleys all stock? Because if you lift 546 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: the hood of the hot rod it looks like a 547 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: big nothing. It's a small block with a four barrel 548 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: and just stock GM police from nineteen and um. I said, well, 549 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: why would I want to change? And well, don't you 550 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: want to make it go faster? What the water pump? Yeah? No, 551 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: you know. The the logic was the slower it goes 552 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: within a certain limit, You're holding the coolant and the 553 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: radiator longer to allow it to exchange heat, to give 554 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: off heat, to dissipate and properly cool before it's returned 555 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: to the engine. The guys that are cars are overheating 556 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: is because they put a small diameter pully on it 557 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: and it runs through so fast. It goes through the 558 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: cooling system so fast it doesn't have time to sit 559 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: in the radiator and go through the heat exchange process. 560 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's sort of the same thing as 561 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: the guys with the lifted trucks that sometimes they are 562 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: lifted to the extreme that the physics and the dynamics 563 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: of how that suspension works is is now creating other issues. 564 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: So if you come up with a standard model year, 565 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, hey, Ron, we've seen this happen in Silverado 566 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: fift hundreds. Uh you know, stock hid stock trim thirty 567 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: two miles. I'll do some research, but I I'm not 568 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: aware of any of that. I have not seen any 569 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: of that just one round before. So it will take 570 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: two on one comment we got. I bought a Prius. 571 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: It was a left over, and so I finally called 572 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: a local dealer to find out what it would cost 573 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: to replace the battery, and it was about six grand 574 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: to put it in, you know, replace the battery, put it, 575 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: put it in the car, and I thought, I didn't 576 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: look any further in research. I just said, you know what, 577 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting rid of this car. I don't know what 578 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: the life time of the battery is. They'll go they'll 579 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: go a hundred thousand. I've seen them go a little longer. 580 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's it's like I've always said, 581 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: not to pat myself on the back, but the battery 582 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: is like the engine in that car. You're gonna put 583 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: it you're gonna put six thousand dollars worth of engine 584 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: in a car at two hundred thousand miles. No, you're 585 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: gonna go out and buy another car. Whereas if you 586 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: if you buy an internal combustion engine. And I know 587 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: that Prius owners are gonna send me hate letters. Hey, 588 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: do whatever you want. It's your show too, you know. 589 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you my experience. Keep changing the oil, 590 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: keep putting gas in it, keep doing maintenance. Let me 591 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: know what three hundred thousand miles looks like. Uh, you 592 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: know without a component failure and the majority of cases 593 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: that will happen, you know. So I you know again, 594 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Prius has its place. I drove a couple of I've 595 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: driven prius Is over time. I drove them when they 596 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 1: first came out, and I my belief system still sticks. 597 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Um A. I wouldn't want to be on the highway 598 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: in one next to an eighteen wheeler when that's out 599 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: the air brakes. UM would be like standing next to 600 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: an elephant as he passed, when you'd get knocked over. Um. 601 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be in an accident in one 602 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: unless I had a death wish. I can't imagine what 603 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: the survivability rate is it's so small and it's so frail, 604 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: and three I still believe and I can remember it 605 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 1: to this day, driving up the New York State through 606 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: a in a Prius at sixty five that I said, 607 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: this thing reminds me of doing sixty five on a 608 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: motorcycle with a body on top of the wheels. The thing, 609 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: the things shook so much. So I just, you know, 610 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: give me something, give me something with four wheels, metal 611 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: and an engine, and you know what, I'm sorry. I 612 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: just come up with a better system. Prove me wrong. 613 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: So exactly from My wife loves it, but I don't 614 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: know around town, around town it works, Frank, I gotta go. 615 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock. I appreciate your calling you 616 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: input sir, Thank you very much. I'm running any of 617 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We're back to talk to stand right 618 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: after this welcome back end of the car doctor. Wow? 619 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: Where did this hour go? Where did the two hours 620 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: go that I get to spend with you every weekend? 621 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: I it flies by, and I love each and every 622 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: minute with you. Let's go over stand in Minnesota, Stanley, 623 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: thanks for hanging on and waiting so long. How can 624 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: I help run any in your service. Yeah, I'm glad 625 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: touch you. Hey run, I'm got a two park avenel okay, 626 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: and I always have a low low tire pressure. Check 627 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: tire pressure, and I'll check and hit the reset and 628 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: it never goes away. How does that system work? Okay? 629 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: So when you look at it in No. Three, do 630 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: you have rubber valve stems? Yeah? Okay, so you have 631 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: rubber valve stems. So there are no sensors in the wheels. 632 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: It's based on tire diameter and it's looking at wheel speed. Now, 633 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: when you do go through the reset, the light should 634 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: go out. There's a very specific procedure to do that reset, 635 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: so you've got to make sure you're doing it. If 636 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: you can't, if you've got proper tire pressure in all 637 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: four tires and the light doesn't go out, then there's 638 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: possibly a fault in the module itself, which I believe. 639 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: I believe in OH three there wasn't a separate TPMs module. 640 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: I believe it was in one of the other remote 641 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: control lock unlocked modules itself. I'd have to look at 642 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: a wiring diagram to be sure. But if if it 643 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: doesn't do a reset hitting the button, whatever, the procedure 644 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: is then there's a fault there, and I'd start with 645 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: a code skin and can you communicate with the module 646 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Um more importantly to address you know, 647 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: why the wheels are always going low on air, the 648 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: tires are always going low on air. And I'm sure 649 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: you've had the tires replaced. Check there's no punctures, et cetera. Right, 650 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: is my guesses are they aluminum or steel wheels? I 651 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: think they're aluminum wheels, right and no three you know, yeah, 652 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: and the aluminum wheels corrode especially. Let's see Minnesota. Do 653 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: you guys get any of that? Um what's it called 654 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: that white fluffy stuff called snow? Oh geez, I'm only 655 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: nine amounts in Katie and Border we get it once 656 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: in a while, like every other day. Yeah, right, so 657 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: a matter of if you don't get snow one day, 658 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: you think God's mad at you. Um. So what happens 659 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: is the chemical they throw on the road gets wedged 660 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: up into the rim and it starts to corrode and 661 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: rot the him. I bet the rims themselves we do it. 662 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: We do a procedure where we call it grinding and 663 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: beat sealing. We grind out the crud and we put 664 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: some tire beat seal in there and that will stop 665 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: the leak um. So some things to try and some 666 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: things to be aware of. Appreciate the call. Stand I'm 667 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: rondingading in the car doctor, reminding each and every one 668 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: of you until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 669 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see you