1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: FSR give this. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 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How we 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: feeling here? 28 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 5: Hi? 29 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: Fired up? How's everybody? Everybody excited? How's everybody? Hey? How 30 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: you doing? Good morning? How's that weather? Cold? 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 6: It's cold? 32 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 4: Are they back in school? Are they still on? 33 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: Oh? 34 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 4: Of course time? I know they are loving life? 35 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 7: I mean snow days were the biggest winds in the 36 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 7: household growing up period. 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 6: Yep, yep? 38 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 7: Did you play so long that your whole hands went numb? 39 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 7: Your your toes were okay, but they kind of went 40 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 7: numb at some point, and then you came in. I 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 7: don't know, maybe it was just us, But then you 42 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 7: you try to run them under hot water. 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you did it so quick that. 44 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 7: That you felt depends in the needles, and then it 45 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 7: hurt real bad. Then you shook them out and then 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 7: you went right back outside. 47 00:01:59,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 5: Go for you. 48 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I missed those days, simpler days, man, you know, yeah, 49 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: I mean you could go back to it. No, you can't. 50 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 7: You know, it's something you can't rewind tome you know 51 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 7: it's out of the out of the two paste. 52 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: Uh, I mean it's. 53 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 7: Squeezed out obscenely cold tube is empty in Stay College. 54 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen. So you're better off out of here. Yeah. 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 7: You built for it, I mean I ain't built for 56 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 7: the taxes though, that's the only problem. Yeah, that's a 57 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 7: whole nother storm to deal with. You know how many 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 7: dollars going to your taxes. Thank you, California. I appreciate you. 59 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: I did want to say, can we get. 60 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 7: A little bit more sunshine too? By the way, Yeah, 61 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 7: they say that's what you're paying for. 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: Uh, well, I did want to say this, LeVar, Okay, LeVar, welcome. 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's appropriate to welcome in 64 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: somebody to the family. And it's a nice announcement here, 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: So welcome in to Levar's exclusive Pro Bowl family, the 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: one and only Sanders. 67 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: The round of applause. 68 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: Sanders is a Pro Bowl Ladies and gentlemen, pro bowler. 69 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: He replaces Drake May, Drake May, who's got a bigger 70 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: things to deal with in a couple of weeks being 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. But congratulations to Shudor Sanders. Just an 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: incredible year and well deserved and so now it was. 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: Next in line. 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's sad to think it out sad 75 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: to think the Browns fired a head coach who've got 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: another quarterback to a Pro Bowl? 77 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: You know, how about that really is a shame. 78 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 6: I mean they're still trying to find a guy. 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: They got candidates pulling their name out of the max 80 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: left and right, and they just set a quarterback to 81 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. 82 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. 83 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: What is uh, what are we doing here? What are 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: we doing? You take a stab atic Q. 85 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 6: Oh, it's it's over. I mean it is done. 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: I don't look. 87 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 6: There's been other examples, you know. 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: It's it's unfortunate that we're like, you know, making shad 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: Or Sanders the example of this. I mean, Tyler Huntley 90 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: went to one where you're like, okay, did this did 91 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: this make sense? But it's just it's not what it 92 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: used to be. 93 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: Like. 94 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 6: You can no longer use Pro Bowls. 95 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: In today's game as a manner in which we talk 96 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: about how great a player was. 97 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 6: It has changed completely. 98 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: And to give it to Chaudor over, Trevor Lawrence or 99 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: a list of other quarterbacks. 100 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: Who I haven't played with, it. 101 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Who had given a better year, better stats, whatever the 102 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: case may be. It's absurd. It's making a mockery of 103 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: the honor. It's making a mockery for other guys who 104 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: have actually earned that right, and I just it's it's 105 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: sad to see, like if you went through heat his 106 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: QBR for those who don't know, and it's it's just 107 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: a different quarterback rating, but it's a little easier to 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: understand because it's out of one hundred and it factors 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: into situational football. 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 6: A little bit more. It was like eighteen. 111 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: It was one of the lowest, like literally in the 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: past twenty years ever of like the six hundred and 113 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: ninety quarterbacks. 114 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 6: That qualify, he was like the. 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Fourth lowest ever and the lowest if you actually look 116 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks that qualify, I mean they played enough 117 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: snaps throughout the year. 118 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: Was cam Ward who was at like thirty three. So 119 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 6: just to give you an idea. 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Of like like how bad it was in comparison to 121 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: other guys who cam Ward who should have qualified instead 122 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: of Shador. 123 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 6: Sanders for it, that's who he's going in over. 124 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: Like it is. 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 6: It's not a knock on him. He's a rookie. He's 126 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: a young. 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Player, and he wouldn't prove it get better, But to 128 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: then give him this opportunity, it's just ridiculous. 129 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: It really is. 130 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 7: Uh, it's it's It's always been a popularity contest in 131 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 7: my opinion, and it generally was, you know, guys would 132 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 7: vote as as a team or as a you know, 133 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 7: position group, and you'd have the names. 134 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 4: You see the names. 135 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 7: Everybody agreed on the names, you know, and I don't know, 136 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 7: I you know, there was a lot of times there 137 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 7: were guys I was like, man, there's no way he 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 7: should be in. But he's a name, you know, he's 139 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 7: been in and it doesn't matter if he has a 140 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 7: down year or not. They're going to vote him into 141 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 7: the Pro Bowl. That's always existed, but this just seems 142 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 7: to feel a little different. It just it just has 143 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 7: a different feel to it. I mean, his stat line, 144 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 7: there's nothing about his stat line that says he should 145 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 7: be considered to be a Pro Bowler. So the only 146 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 7: conclusion that you can come up with is that he 147 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 7: won the popular demand by public vote, and there's probably 148 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 7: so many people that voted for him to be in 149 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 7: the Pro Bowl. He probably got more votes than guys 150 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 7: that were first to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, I don't 151 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 7: know if it's still the same, but you had the first, 152 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 7: the first guys, then you had the alternates. The first guys. 153 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 7: Those are the guys that are supposed to be there. 154 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 7: They'll start the game. They're the ones that you know, 155 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 7: didn't need an injury or an opt out or anything 156 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 7: like that to be selected. 157 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: They were selected. 158 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 7: You know, I don't know how that is now because 159 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 7: there's not even really a game, but there was a 160 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 7: sense of pride connected to making it to the Pro Bowl. 161 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 7: I told you guys the story about how when you 162 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 7: were a first year guy, you know, you come down 163 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 7: to the bar and you had to pay for the 164 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 7: first round of drinks that that you were there for. 165 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 7: Even if you didn't drink, you had to pay for them. 166 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 7: It was like a rite of passage. The camaraderie that 167 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 7: you built, you know, seeing guys and their families around, 168 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 7: you know, around the pool or doing the different activities. 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 7: And I got an opportunity to meet a lot of 170 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 7: guys that I would have never otherwise had opportunity to 171 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 7: build relationships with through the years, just going back to 172 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 7: the Pro Bowl and and so I mean, it was 173 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 7: a It definitely was a respect factor that was connected 174 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 7: to it. And even if there were guys there that 175 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 7: were there based off of more popularity, not necessarily having 176 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 7: a better year than some of the guys that didn't 177 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 7: make it, it. 178 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: Still was an elite of the elite. 179 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 7: Like you didn't look at any of those guys and say, 180 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 7: he's not elite, I think for this one. And I 181 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 7: hate to say it because I don't want to throw 182 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 7: shade at Shador, but I mean it's kind of much 183 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 7: like the whole retiring of the jersey. 184 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: It's like is it warranted? 185 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 7: You know, because there are a lot of guys that 186 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 7: have done a lot more that don't have their jersey retired, 187 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 7: you know what I mean? It kind of like raises 188 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 7: the conversation again, like you know, he's he has done 189 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 7: what I will say in this day and age, he 190 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 7: has done and his family has done an excellent job 191 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 7: in building their family brand and personal brands, and his 192 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 7: personal brand won here. The popularity of what he brings 193 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 7: to the table one out over skilled in time. 194 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 6: What is that brand based off of? It's not merit? 195 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: And that's what I think the slippery slope is in 196 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: our society when we start basing like, you know, accomplishments 197 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: off of things other than merit, then like. 198 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 6: What are we doing? 199 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because value rewarded if you're rewarded for not accomplishing 200 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: anything or not. 201 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 6: I mean you look at his stats. 202 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: You looked at this season at the Browns, how would 203 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,479 Speaker 1: you define that mediocre? 204 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 7: And not even that probably below that fourteen hundred yards 205 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 7: on the season, I mean. 206 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 6: Well forget I'm yards. I mean it's like that, no 207 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 6: point was his level of play anything. 208 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: And again he's a rookie, so it could improve and 209 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: get better, but at no point would you look at 210 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: his play in comparison to so many others that are 211 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: more deserving of it. I think it was better. So 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: if you're saying this brand wins over that, then we've 213 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: got a failed system because we're not rewarding people for 214 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: what they actually accomplish, and do. 215 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: His brand wins over ip uh? I hope he declines it. 216 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: Would he declines the invitation and just says, nah, I'm good. 217 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: He doesn't need it. It's not like he needs to 218 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: do it. That's a win. That's a lose lose situation. 219 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 7: Why if he declines it, then it's like, oh, arrogant, No, 220 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 7: I'm not deserving of this. 221 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: I don't think I deserve this. 222 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: I think that would go a long way with a 223 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: lot of people that he didn't choose. 224 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 6: That'd be the best thing he could do. 225 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 7: I'd say, I don't think I deserve it, but I'm 226 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 7: not going. If I've been told i'm going, then I'm going. 227 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 7: I actually think ticket. 228 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 6: It's like, we'll see. 229 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: Listen, y'all chose me. Y'all said, I'm the fill in. 230 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 4: I don't know how this happened, but I'm gonna take 231 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: it base. Here we go, Uh, based on I'm a 232 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: pro bowler. 233 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: I also wonder this and based on how the story 234 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: yee behind me, based on how the story was presented 235 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: and how the story was was put out there. So 236 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: Jordan Schultz was the guy who first reported it, and 237 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: it's not I wonder if at some point there's going 238 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: to be a retraction from somebody saying at the NFL 239 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: or this was this was a mistake. Yeah, listen that 240 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: we don't know where that report came from. But and 241 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: I almost wonder if this was put out there's a 242 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: little bit of a heat check, like what would the 243 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: feedback be from people because negative like they think it's ridiculous. 244 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 7: There would only be a I mean the people who 245 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 7: voted for him would be positive about it. 246 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: Well he didn't get that first bid. 247 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 7: You'd have to assume hearing this information, you'd have to 248 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 7: assume that people were upset, like you didn't make it 249 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 7: in the first place, Like, wait, what do you mean 250 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 7: he had to go as an alternate? 251 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: I think you know, here's the other thing, like if 252 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: if you look at Okay, why should or Sanders a 253 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: Pro Bowler? Well, because you know, opt outs, people don't 254 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: want to be you know, was Drake may still kill't 255 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: But this is but when you were at the Pro Bowl, 256 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: and I was thinking about this, when you were at 257 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl, I know that guys. 258 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 4: Would maybe opt out because of injury or or. 259 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 7: Just didn't want to go anymore that so many days. 260 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 7: But how prevalent was that there was only a few 261 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,479 Speaker 7: dudes that did it because I think the fact. 262 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: That it was bar never he never came. Because I 263 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 4: think the fact that it was it felt special. It 264 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: was in Hawaii. 265 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: The pageantry, the way it was presented to you was 266 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: different than Hey, you guys want to go play corn 267 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: hole and uh and and connect for in front of 268 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: fans at some you know empty uh, you know conference 269 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: room or or whatever in San Francisco a couple of 270 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: days before the Super Bowl. It just it doesn't feel 271 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: special practices, So why would you want to go? 272 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't. I don't. 273 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 7: I don't pretend to know what it feels like now 274 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 7: because I'm so detached from it. But it sucks. It 275 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 7: definitely felt special back then. It definitely it was what 276 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 7: you wanted. I mean, I wanted a Pro Bowl more 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 7: than I wanted an All Pro. I never really paid 278 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 7: attention to all pro all pros harder and it probably means. 279 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 7: It definitely means more. That's like the equivalent of an 280 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 7: All American at the program. 281 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: So that's like all you can base like awards off 282 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: of now is you's just all pros. 283 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, all pro. 284 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 7: So because because pro Bowler doesn't, it doesn't hold Like, Okay, 285 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 7: if Shador got this ten times, if he was able 286 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 7: to be in the league for ten years, have the 287 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 7: seasons that he's had for ten years, like say, they're 288 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 7: just moderately the same, you would have to say going 289 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 7: to ten Pro Bowls, he has to be considered to 290 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 7: be one of the greats of all time. Think about that, 291 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 7: I mean, by past past definition of a pro bowler, 292 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 7: if he went to ten Pro Bowls, same exact way 293 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 7: he just went this year, he would be in and 294 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 7: I mean he would be having bids to the Hall 295 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 7: of Fame. 296 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: He just needs Drake made to go to ten Super Bowls. 297 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: If that's the case, there you go. There's your trade 298 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: and he has to start. 299 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 7: So if he starts and and and the neck, then 300 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 7: the quarterback you know, doesn't go to to the They 301 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 7: don't want to go to the Pro Bowl. He gets 302 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 7: the Pro Bowl, he gets ten Pro Bowls in ten years. 303 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 7: He's he's up for. 304 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: The I just think there would be less guys opting 305 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: out if it felt more special, Like if it felt you. 306 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: Know that you were going to be doing. 307 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: Guys always have opted out, but not to not to 308 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: this clip, like who wants to be a part of this? 309 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: Like no, Like why would you like if you were 310 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: a player you just had a long season. What's more, 311 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: what feels like more of a place you'd want to 312 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: go Hawaii for a week to go have fun and 313 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: you know, rent out two different hotels for various reasons 314 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: or a room a hotel, the room or you want 315 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: to you want to go to the Moscow In Center 316 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: whatever or wherever the Pro Bowl games are going to 317 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: be in in San Francisco on on Tuesday night. Like 318 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: it just doesn't like it just doesn't feel like I'd 319 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: want to Pro Bowl. 320 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: It used to be before the Super Bowl too. 321 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, so the opt out was because they were going 322 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 7: to play in the Pro Bowl after I mean playing 323 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,479 Speaker 7: in the Super Bowl. 324 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: Wasn't it or was it after? 325 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 8: No? 326 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: Was it after the Pro Bowl? Was after the Super Bowl? 327 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: After the Super Bowl? I thought it was before Like. 328 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: Troy Reason remember the story Troy Aikman left at halftime 329 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: of the Pro Bowl, Like he got on a flight. 330 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: And just bailed. 331 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't even think he changed out of his Uh, 332 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: he's just like all right, I served, I did my 333 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: you know, first half, and I'm out of here. But 334 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: it's probably because he got to spend the whole week 335 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: there and he was like the games, you know sort 336 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: of you know. 337 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: The game only was played in the second half. That 338 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: was it. 339 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 7: First first half dudes was just like hey man, like 340 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 7: Buddy Coat, like don't like no smoke, I don't want 341 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 7: no smoke. There were some dudes out there. I mean, 342 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 7: I was out there trying to hit dudes like I 343 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 7: hadn't played against Corey Dillon. That was one of my 344 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 7: fondest memories is I was I was hunting Corey Dillon. 345 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 7: I was trying to get Corey. He was running. He 346 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 7: was like, come on man. I was like, hey, bro, 347 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 7: I ain't never played against you. I got to see 348 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 7: what it feels like to hit your big ass, Like 349 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 7: I said, it just till I just I wanted to 350 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 7: hit Corey Dillon, and I wanted to get Jamal Lewis 351 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 7: because me and Jamal were in the same class high school. College. 352 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 7: He always won national championship super Bowls, and I wanted 353 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 7: to hit Jamal too, cause I liked hitting physical back. 354 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 6: He was he was a load. 355 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I liked hitting big, physical backs. That was 356 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 7: like my flex, Like, I wanted. 357 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 4: To hit you. 358 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 7: So I'd be like if I didn't get a chance 359 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 7: to see them during the regular season and I saw 360 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 7: him in the Pro Bowl, some would click like I'd 361 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 7: be in the game and I'd be clicking out like 362 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 7: I'd be like, I know, I said, I wasn't gonna 363 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 7: hit nobody, but that's Corey Dillon and I'm a fan, 364 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 7: so I got to have him up. 365 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: And I was hunting him the whole time. I ain't 366 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 4: really get it. 367 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 7: I got a good one on him, but not like 368 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 7: I like to have gotten on him, and wish I 369 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 7: could have got a better one, you know, But I 370 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 7: was trying, but a lot of guys wasn't trying until 371 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 7: a second half. And then it's like everybody be on 372 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 7: sideline and every single year be like, man, we're down. 373 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 7: Like the one year we were down by a ton, 374 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 7: and we was like, man, you know, we get you know, 375 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 7: we get another half of what it is we're getting 376 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 7: paid if we win, Like why are we out here? 377 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 7: Be asked, like, let's just give it a go. We 378 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 7: started giving it a go. We started coming back. We 379 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 7: ended up coming back and winning. So you get more 380 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 7: if you win. You know, you get the spoils of 381 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 7: if you win. But I mean it was a fun time. 382 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 7: But I won't say it's not new that guys that 383 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: were popular we're getting voted into the Pro Bowl. But 384 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 7: this one just seems to have something different, just a 385 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 7: lot more flimsier. But the whole game in itself, the 386 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 7: whole idea of the Pro Bowl is just become very flimsy. 387 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: They could come on out on a Tuesday night in 388 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: San Francisco, step over the sleeping bags and come watch 389 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 3: Sit or Sanders, you know, play mini pot against somebody 390 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: else in the NFC, Like what are we doing? 391 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 7: Well, it's not about football anymore, So there you go. Okay, 392 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 7: go wipe. If you've ever wiped with a piece of 393 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 7: dry toilet paper and wondered, is this as good as 394 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 7: it gets? 395 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: It's not switched to life changing wet extra large flushable 396 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: Dudewifes because wetter just cleans better. Available at Amazon and 397 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: at major retailers nationwide, Dudewife's best clean pants down. All right, 398 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: it is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here 399 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks 400 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: with you. So we are going to have another edition 401 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: of in case you missed it later on this hour, 402 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: Dean Blandino stops by our three of the and we've 403 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: got the leftovers. All of it is yours here on 404 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: this three hour extravaganza. Up next, though, is the door 405 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: cracked open for a potential return. 406 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: In the NFL. 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I mean, it's just 428 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 7: you know, it's a very special song to me. 429 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: Well you, uh, what do you think the timeline is 430 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: on it? 431 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: Uh? 432 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't care to disclose that information to 433 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 4: either one of you. 434 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 6: I have a couple of songs. There's actually one of 435 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 6: gonna I think submit this week. 436 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: Oh come on, keep yours until super Bowl because we 437 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: got a special presentation. 438 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: Keep yours until super Bowl when we hear your song. 439 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: Lavarn and I have a special dance routine for you 440 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: have are you serious? 441 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: The ravish and. 442 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 6: Are you being serious? 443 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: Right? 444 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: Being did serious? 445 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 6: You too have come up with a dance routine. 446 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 7: So it's not a routine. It's just like it just 447 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 7: kind of morphed into a thing. 448 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: First off, even if it was, it would not be 449 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: the worst thing You've admitted to. The whole fashion thing. 450 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: You were like, Yeah, I'm big into fact like that. 451 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: That's a little bit more weird. 452 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 7: Really, Yeah, did I say I'm into fashion? I am 453 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 7: into fashion, not like that. I mean, I'm not like 454 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 7: at fashion week or anything like. I don't walk around 455 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 7: with a purse or anything. 456 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: You know how how many pairs of shoes you bring 457 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 4: into a super Bowl week? 458 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 7: I've been very minimum lately. I used to you check 459 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 7: a bag? Probably not, probably not. I don't think we're 460 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 7: in long enough to check a bag this year. Yeah, 461 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 7: And if I were checking a bag, it would be 462 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 7: because of my shoes, your shoes, Yeah, because I got 463 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 7: big feet, so right, Yeah, I get that, I get that, 464 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 7: But yeah, I haven't really been into like wearing a 465 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 7: whole bunch of shoes, so yeah, I probably won't check 466 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 7: a bag. 467 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: Well, there you go. 468 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: Hey, I think we're all going to be fired up 469 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: ready to go for next week. 470 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: And who knows. 471 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Patty's talking about doing the break. He doesn't travel much, 472 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: so he's gonna be like a caged animal. 473 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 4: There's his first Super Bowl and. 474 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 6: The him that there's that, but he's just excited to 475 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 6: be out. 476 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: He's like just excited to be here. Let me let 477 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: me at him. Dang, like a little scrap's exciting. Yeah, okay, 478 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 4: Well it is two pros and a cup of Joe. 479 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: Here on Fox Sports Radio, it's Lebar Arrington, Brady Quinn, 480 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox with you Hair. 481 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: You can find us on the iHeartRadio. 482 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: App and on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. 483 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: If you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. 484 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: And who knows, maybe by super Bowl week, by next week, 485 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: who knows, probably going to be after the super Bowl 486 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: at this rate, maybe the Browns are going to have 487 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 3: a head coach. Maybe somebody will step up and be 488 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: the guy. The latest report I saw was that Jim 489 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: Schwartz is gaining momentum on being the next head coach 490 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: of the Cleveland Browns. You've got this, Brady mentioned earlier, 491 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: guys pulling out left and right from the Browns job. 492 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: As awkward as that sounds, it's the truth. And we're 493 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: talking about the Browns job and not anybody in the 494 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: Cleveland area, but they are just left and right don't 495 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: want to be a part of it. 496 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: Udinsky was the latest. 497 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: He's decided, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and 498 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: maybe sit this one out and wait for Buffalo. And 499 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: so the whole conversation turns to, so why is everybody 500 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: opting out of wanting to go talk with the Browns 501 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: further about their head coaching vacance. And Tom Pellisera was 502 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: talking to Rich Eisen and he detailed some of the 503 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: requirements that may be leading to dudes in the NFL 504 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: saying yeah, we're good here, already went through school one time. 505 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 9: The Browns search process and interview process, which they have 506 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 9: run a number of times, is unlike any other in 507 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 9: the NFL, and it plays to certain types of candidates. 508 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 9: They are a data driven operation in Cleveland, and so 509 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 9: they spend an extraordinary amount of time gathering data on 510 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 9: their coaching candidates. You're talking about taking a personality test, 511 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 9: You're talking about writing an essay, You're talking about completing 512 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 9: homework assignments, going into both the first and the second 513 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 9: rounds of interviews. 514 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: So if you want the Browns job, it comes with 515 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: a lot, and there's a lot that is asked of 516 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: you if you want to be a part of that 517 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: fine organization and be their next head coach. 518 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: Why is that so offensive? 519 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 7: Though, Like I'm we're trying to understand, why is that 520 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 7: so so offensive? 521 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 6: Which which party? 522 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 4: Which part? 523 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 5: Like? 524 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: Which part are you saying is weird? Homework assignments? 525 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: Well, you have to write an ess they have to 526 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: write an essay, they do a personality test, they there's 527 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: some other they have a questionnaire they have to kind 528 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: of go through. 529 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: So why is that offensive? Because it's not a dating app, 530 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 4: it's a job. 531 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 6: In Oh right, I. 532 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: Don't know that offensive is the right word for it. 533 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: I guess I just look at it and say, so 534 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: your data driven. Okay, what have you derived from the 535 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: data of all the coaching hire since Jimmy Haslam has 536 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: taken over his majority owner? What have you derived from 537 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: that data? Like, what have you learned? Because perceivably the 538 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: last coach you just had and you fired, who coached 539 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: another Pro Bowl quarterback. 540 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 6: Chalk that up for a win for Kevin Stevanski. He 541 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 6: was a two time Coach of the Year. 542 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I believe the only other coach who falls in that 543 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: category is like Sean McVay. 544 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 6: Maybe that's a current head coach in the NFL. 545 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, once you fired him, he immediately 546 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: became one of the top head coaches to go be 547 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: hired by the Atlanta Falcons. So my point in saying 548 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: this is, if you're the majority owner and you are 549 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: with a brain trust that's in the decision making process 550 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: of hiring and firing these guys, it doesn't appear like 551 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: your process for hiring works, Or if it does work, 552 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: then the guy you just had may have been your 553 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: best head coach and you just didn't really see the 554 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: full entire picture for your own mistakes, because one of 555 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: the issues with Kevin Stefanski's tenure was the quarterback position, 556 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: to which I thought he did a hell of a 557 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: job with what he was given, despite the one guy 558 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: that he had to probably co sign on. But it 559 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: wasn't his choice, which was Deshaun Watson. That was the 560 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: owner's call. That was what Andrew Berry then were a 561 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: part of. So it's not offensive. It just it seems 562 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: insane when you do the same thing over and over 563 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: and over and over again. 564 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 6: Yet you expect a different result. 565 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 7: That's probably a better way for That's the definition of 566 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 7: insanity again, don't. I don't find it, just at a 567 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 7: glance to be offensive. I don't find it to be 568 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 7: If you're not getting the results that you're seeking, at 569 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 7: least you have data to look at and say, Okay, 570 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 7: maybe we don't need to hire this person, you know, 571 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 7: with this personality, you know, makeup. Maybe we don't need 572 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 7: to hire this person that doesn't want to take home 573 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 7: this work and do it at home. 574 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: Don't. 575 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 7: I don't really know why they're failing the way that 576 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 7: they are, but I will say I will say it's 577 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 7: a job. Interview and whether they're failing or not. If 578 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 7: that's their process and you want to get the job, 579 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 7: then you do what's required to get the job. If 580 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 7: that's what the interview process consists of, that's I mean, 581 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 7: for me, that's that's how I would be looking at it. 582 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 583 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: I just think the issue is is you've got candidates 584 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: that I think they are excited about, who aren't you know, 585 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: interested in that process. That's and that's a problem. Like that, well, 586 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: that is a problem. I mean it's a problem. 587 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 588 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: And and again if they start winning super Bowls that 589 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I think it becomes more normalized and people say, well, hey, 590 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: this is just part of their process. 591 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 6: They're obviously really good at doing this. But I think 592 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 6: there's two issues with this. 593 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: There's the issue of it being so unique in an 594 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: allyer from everyone else, and also like is it really 595 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: applicable to what their job requires? And if it's not, 596 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: you might say it's it's unnecessary if you're making your 597 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, guys go jump through hoops that aren't gonna 598 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: matter at at at the end of the day. And 599 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: then and they might not matter for two reasons. One, 600 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: it's not really again part of the job, right, I'm 601 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: all for an interview process that's gonna actually help you 602 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: find out if the person can do the job. 603 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 6: But there's also their own involvement. Like if you hire 604 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 6: a guy to do a. 605 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: Job and then you're meddling in his job or in 606 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: what his job outcome looks like, how can you really, 607 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, fire him or how can you really put 608 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: him to blame for all of it? I mean, go 609 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: look at Andrew Berry's track record since he's been there 610 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: in their front office in some capacity. If you want 611 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: to attach a win loss record to something, attach it 612 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: to him. It's awful, it's horrendous, and like you can 613 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: stake your claim to you know, getting a guy like 614 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Miles garrettor being a part of the brain trust that 615 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: drafted a number one overall? Yeah, shocking. Did you see 616 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: the guy coming out of college? How would you have 617 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: picked anyone else? I mean, Miles Garrett might be an alien. 618 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: Like like, if you had to make a case for 619 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: one of the players in the NFL right now that 620 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't think he's human, mine would probably 621 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: be Miles Garrett. If you've just ever seen how that 622 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: guy's built, how he moves everything else, He's a freak. 623 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: It's like, I personally don't look at a front office 624 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: when they make a draft pick like Miles Garrett and go. 625 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 6: Oh, pat him on the back. What a pick. 626 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: It's like I could literally train my dog to probably 627 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: make that pick. Yeah, he's he's probably gonna look at it. 628 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't even have a dog right now. He's probably 629 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna look at him and go, yeah, I want that guy. 630 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: He looks like the best guy to be on our team. 631 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's like it's absurd to sit there 632 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: and like stay claim to certain guys where we're like, oh, yeah, 633 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield, they draft him, you know, number one 634 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: overall when you took him, which by the way, could 635 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: have still been your quarterback, but you messed that up 636 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: and it was like, yeah, he's a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. Shocker, Like, 637 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: is that that hard to make him the number one 638 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: overall pick? 639 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 6: I don't, No. 640 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: I just I think part of the issue with Cleveland 641 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: is there's no accountability from the ownership as far as 642 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: their involvement in the hiring firing process, and especially if 643 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: you look at it when he first took over, with 644 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: the way they ran through coaches, and then now meddling 645 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: in things after they hire the guy. 646 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 6: It's like, just stay out of it. Let those people 647 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 6: do it. 648 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, the guy you're closest to and 649 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: Andrew Berry, and if this is his process and everyone 650 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: else is telling you like, I'm not interested and you're 651 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: trying to look for the next Sean McVay, which is 652 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: what people are telling me. 653 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 6: Who are dialed in through Cleveland, Well, you just put 654 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 6: I pushed them away. It does. 655 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know that you can run a 656 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: unique process for the job that is going to be 657 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: pushing away some of the top talent. Like that doesn't 658 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: seem like a great way of trying to find a 659 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: guy to get in there and turn this thing around. 660 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 7: I mean, the biggest indictment has to be that they've 661 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 7: not had success. I mean that that has to be 662 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 7: what what you run with on on this process. If 663 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 7: if you're so strong about saying that. 664 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: Why would you do it? 665 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 7: Or why would I or why would I take this 666 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 7: job or interview for this job? If I have to 667 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 7: do homework assignments or or do personality tests and stuff 668 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 7: like that. I mean, you think about it. You go 669 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 7: to a combine you have to do a ton of 670 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 7: things that consist of those things, you know what I mean. Like, 671 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 7: but even that's changed. Yeah, I mean I think about 672 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 7: it. It's not what it used to be, but it's still 673 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 7: a ton of data. 674 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 6: We don't do that. I don't think they do the 675 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 6: Wonder Look anymore. 676 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was deemed that it was unnecessary or 677 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: it didn't have any applicability to football. 678 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 6: So I understand what you're saying with it. 679 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: I just look, it's a different organization than when I 680 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: was there with Randy Lerner, right, who is Al's son, 681 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: who inherited the team and then eventually sold the majority 682 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: stake to Jimmy Haslm. And I've always said this about 683 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: like Jimmy Haslm, the has them family, Like they care 684 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: enough to dump a bunch of money into it, and 685 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: they're obviously actively involved trying to get this right. But 686 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: sometimes I think it's really hard to tell people who 687 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: care the most that, like you might be the problem 688 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: more part of the problem, and you might have to 689 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: step out of the way, and maybe they don't want 690 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: to do that, you know. I think other organizations face this. 691 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is probably sitting in the same situation right now. 692 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: The difference is like he does have super Bowls to 693 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: look at, and at one point point two for his 694 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: success for the Browns, there's nothing and this team, because 695 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: they keep knocking everything down and building back up again. 696 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: It feels like they've never really gotten past the the 697 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: expansion expansion franchise that they really were when they came 698 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: back in ninety nine. Like they keep tearing it all 699 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: back down again, and it's like it's they're still the 700 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: expansion friend they were. 701 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: It just seems like even when they do have a 702 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: little bit of success, they'd never parlay it like they 703 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 3: had that year in twenty twenty and just couldn't get 704 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: back to it. And Stefanski wanted Coach of. 705 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: The Year that year. 706 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: They want you twenty twenty three, right, yeah, And it's 707 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: like they just they couldn't get back to it. And 708 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 3: then even when you did have an answer in place 709 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: at quarterback, when you weren't sure about Deshaun Watson in 710 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: his availability and you saw how good Joe Flacco played, 711 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: they didn't bring him back. It's just like there's just 712 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: moves along the way that that don't make any sense. 713 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: That it just doesn't it just doesn't appear. But listen 714 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: to Miles Garrett, your guy, and as long as he's 715 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: making a boatload of money. You know, he made a 716 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 3: big stink about it last year. He wants to go 717 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl. But you know, then all of 718 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: a sudden they offered him a big fat check and 719 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: he took it. 720 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 7: And the rest is the rest. But the analytics are 721 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 7: working somewhat. I mean, he's a pro bowler. He's probably 722 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 7: going to be a Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah, 723 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 7: and I know the dog could be trained to do it, 724 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 7: but that's what it is. And then you got Shador 725 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 7: Sanders as well. I mean he's you know, you're you're 726 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 7: racking up you're building up your your roster with with 727 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 7: Pro Bowl or something, and. 728 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: It's a little rude. That's pretty rude what you did there. 729 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 6: I know what he's doing. He's just trying. 730 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: He's trying to make fun of my Cleveland Browns. And look, 731 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: I hope people understand. 732 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 6: Like I love the Brownies, I do, like I just. 733 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 4: I grew up a fan. 734 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: I got traded away from that I wanted, you know, 735 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: I was still shocked that whole you know, how it 736 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: went down and it's just it's tough because you want 737 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: them to eventually, you know, accomplish what you see other organizations, 738 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: like the whole Indiana run is inspiring, and you're like, 739 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: all right, Vidiana could do it, why can't Cleveland do it? 740 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: Like Cleveland can do this, you know, and then you 741 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: you know, then the season starts. It just doesn't work 742 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: out that way. 743 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like it's Cleveland. 744 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: But it's also I mean, LaVar's you know, like he 745 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: knows that you and I don't have dogs right now, 746 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: so he made sure to bring that back around. 747 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 4: I did not know that. I thought he boxer. 748 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: No, no, we lost her last actually is unfortunately, but 749 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: my wife's birthday that was. 750 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 6: That was a bad scene. 751 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 4: Man. 752 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: It's it's tough losing were unfortunately or fortunately, going to 753 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: get another one here in a few months. 754 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 4: So that's how it works. 755 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 6: We're stepping right back into that. 756 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 4: That's how it works. 757 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 5: Me. 758 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 7: I didn't even want one, but here it is. Mister 759 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 7: Styx is in the building. There you go, not me, Well, 760 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 7: you're selfish. Once he was done, he was done. 761 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 6: Well yourself, Jonas, you are selfish though about this. 762 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 4: I'm just not a whore. Oh, I'm not a dog 763 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 4: like you one, and Jonas, that's deflecting. You're deflecting. 764 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 7: Like what if your kid wants to experience the joys 765 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 7: of having a dog. 766 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you can move in with somebody else, 767 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 3: have fun. He's not going to clean it up. I 768 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 3: can't even get the kid to clean up his monster trucks. 769 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: You think he's going to clean up a pile of 770 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 3: crap in the backyard. Not happening. Say, hey, selfish dupe man, 771 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: that's fine. 772 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: Not a slut, and my dog knows that. 773 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I. 774 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 7: Mean you're just using all the Lorraina's words today, huh, 775 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 7: Like Loraina here shouts out to Lorraine, and we got Mark. 776 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 6: What's up? 777 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 2: Mark? 778 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 4: But god? 779 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 3: Okay, by the way, have you ever wiped the piece 780 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: of dry toilet paper and wondered? 781 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 4: Is this as good as it gets? 782 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 3: It's not switched to life changing wet extra large fleshable 783 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 3: Dude Wives because wetter just cleans better. 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Dudewives best clean pants down. 785 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 3: All right, So coming up next here on two Pros 786 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe, we are going to tell 787 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 3: you about a kind of a strange situation, one coach 788 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: in the NFL finds themselves in and that's yours. 789 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 4: Here on FSR. 790 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 791 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 792 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 793 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 794 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on 795 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. He's Lebar Arrington, that guy's Brady Quinn. 796 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 3: I'm Jonas Knox. We are going to have another edition 797 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 3: of The Leftovers coming up here in about twenty minutes 798 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: from now, right here on FSR. But before we catch 799 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 3: up with our guy, Dean Blandino, We've got a very 800 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: important question. 801 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 4: To ask you. 802 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: Have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet 803 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: paper and wondered, is this as good as it gets? 804 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: It's not. 805 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: Switch to life changing wet extra large flushable dude wipes 806 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: it because wetter just cleans better, available at Amazon and 807 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: at major retailers nationwide. Better dudewipes, best clean pants down. 808 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 4: Pull your pants down, y'all. 809 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: And with that we bring it over to Dean Blandino, 810 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: Fox Sports, NFL College football rules analyst. You can get 811 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: him on x at Dean Blandino Dean, good morning, Good morning. 812 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 4: Good morning morning Dean. 813 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm thrown out my I'm just throwing out my dudes. 814 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 5: My dude. 815 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 10: Wife's after that read. 816 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 4: Okay, why are you throwing it out? But my question is. 817 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 10: Just I don't know. 818 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 5: I got to think of Joan. Every time I'm on 819 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 5: the toilet, I'm gonna think of Jonah. I don't know. 820 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 4: You're welcome. 821 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on? Is there any other way to 822 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 6: clean yourself in pants down? Like are people pants on? 823 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 7: Yeah? 824 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 10: That is I mean you do the day man, that's 825 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 10: the way to go. 826 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 6: But your pants are still down. 827 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 10: Oh no, I got the pants down. I got it. 828 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 10: I just it was very descriptive. It's fine. 829 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 4: Although I mean I would say this, Dean. 830 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: You know, we were having a there was a question 831 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: that was asked yesterday on the show about Oh no, 832 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm just and this is real, this is a real thing. 833 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 834 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, do you stand up for sitting down while 835 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 3: you're while you're taking care of business? 836 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 7: Because no, no, no, not while you're taking care of business. 837 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 4: Jan Yes, all right. 838 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you stand up. Who stands up? 839 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, Bro, you would be blown away. It's 840 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 4: a thing. It's a stand up the white. 841 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 5: It's not a thing that those people probably have the 842 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 5: toilet paper going the other way right, the weird way? 843 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 4: Do you want people stand up the white? 844 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 7: Dan? 845 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 4: What's what? 846 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 3: What's the weird way? 847 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 10: The like kind of clockwise way? Whatever? You know, it's 848 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 10: just can we get a football? 849 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get into football. Who did that? 850 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 6: Was that? 851 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 4: Jonas are cute? Who did that? Brady? Oh my god? 852 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely me. 853 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: I was the one who apologize before Jonas had to 854 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: ask the question. 855 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 6: I think, Dean, can I kick this one off because. 856 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: I didn't hear this from you directly on the broadcast, 857 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: but Pete Prisco claimed that you said this. 858 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 6: There was a no call on. 859 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: What appeared to be a very easy defensive past interference 860 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: call on Quentin Lake on the throw too. I believe 861 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: was Shaheed on the sideline that the official said was unketchable. 862 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 4: Although it so. 863 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 5: Here's where, and I didn't I could have done a 864 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 5: better job explaining my thoughts on that one. So the 865 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 5: contact was early. I don't think she would have caught 866 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 5: it in bounds. Number one but the contact was early, 867 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 5: and you always give the receiver the benefit of the doubt. 868 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 5: I said, you know, a question whether it was catchable. 869 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 5: When I got the first look at it, I thought 870 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 5: Shaheed might have already touched the sideline and then he's 871 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 5: not eligible to. 872 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 10: Catch a pass. 873 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 5: So that was kind of my thoughts the first look. 874 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 5: And you only have, as you know, in TV, it's 875 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 5: like very quick. You don't have a ton of time 876 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 5: to explain it. 877 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 10: So I shouldn't have said. I didn't say it. 878 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 5: Wasn't catch myself as question whether because she might have 879 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 5: already been out of bound. 880 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 10: So that's that's kind of and you. 881 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 5: Know how the internet is, and it's like, oh, Dean 882 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 5: Blending knows an idiot, like I may be. 883 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 10: An idiot in other areas. 884 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 4: Of my life, right, does not in that one. 885 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: Okay then, So so on that note, though, I actually 886 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: noticed in the game there was another pass attempted at 887 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. 888 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 6: It was like up the right sideline. 889 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: They were in plus territory of the red zone, and 890 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: the dB had kind of pushed Adams out of bounds, 891 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: but the ball hit the pylon and he was probably 892 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: about it. The five ish maybe four and the official 893 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: in that instance waved it unketchable, which which during the 894 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: course of the season, I don't know if you talked about 895 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 1: this or not, but it felt like it was very 896 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: rare where you would get an official to actually wave 897 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: that it was uncatchable, like the ball had almost hit 898 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: someone in the second row. Nowadays, it feels like they're 899 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: they're trying to communicate that more in the and it's 900 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: like to actually closer plays. Is this by design? Is 901 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: this something you're seeing too? Am I just out of 902 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 1: my mind? 903 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 10: Yeah? 904 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 5: I think no, I think there is. There has been 905 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 5: a more direction in terms of if you have it 906 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 5: on catchable signal that right, it's like one hand over 907 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 5: the head and in that and that was earlier in 908 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 5: the game, and then that official signal uncatchable. I feel 909 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 5: like again we've probably moved moved the line with uncatchable 910 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 5: a little bit where it's just it always used to 911 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 5: be it had to be sold, like you said, second 912 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 5: row to be uncatchable. I think they are probably ruling 913 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 5: more of those uncatchable now and that signal, which isn't 914 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 5: you don't see that as often, you know, because the officials, 915 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 5: you know, they're ruling on a bunch of. 916 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 10: Bunch of different things. 917 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, that was a player early to DeVante that 918 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 5: they did rule that. Dane. 919 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 6: Uh. 920 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 7: We talk about the play calls, the missed calls, potential 921 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 7: calls every single time you come on to the show. 922 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 7: I'm curious for you heading into the super Bowl week. 923 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 7: What is it that's the biggest pressing conversation that you're 924 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 7: entertaining heading into super Bowl Week? 925 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, I thought both games that 926 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 5: the first the AFC game obviously had the weather that 927 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 5: creates in the second half that creates a lot of 928 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 5: issues for everybody, and both games were well officiated games. 929 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that that there's any major 930 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 5: issues going into the super Bowl. Obviously, these officials are 931 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 5: you know, they're already scouting the two teams. They're looking 932 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 5: at tell them, they're looking at the different tendencies and 933 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 5: things like that. So and I think with these two teams, 934 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 5: I don't think there's anything that that that jumps out 935 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 5: that's going to be, oh my god, we have to 936 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 5: we have to make sure we do this or do that. 937 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 5: And again, it's just not you know, it's like the play, 938 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 5: you know, you can't miss a face mask on on Stafford, right, 939 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 5: that's the first down. There's there's there's other things that 940 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 5: that that happened. 941 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 10: I thought the you know, I don't know why the. 942 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 5: Thereek wooland taunting is that, you know, people were saying, oh, 943 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 5: taunting this, and that he taunted the bench. I mean, 944 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 5: the official gave him a lot of leeway and he 945 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 5: just kept going, kept going, And that's taunt. 946 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 10: That's pretty straightforward. So I don't think there's anything major. 947 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 5: Going into the game that is I'm worried about. I 948 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 5: just think the crew is going to prepare and hopefully 949 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 5: it's a good game. 950 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 3: Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox 951 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 3: Sports NFL college football rules analyst Get him on x 952 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 3: at Dean Blandino. Will Lutt said following the game that 953 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 3: on his final missed kick, among many in that game 954 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 3: in Denver, that they may not have been lined up 955 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 3: correctly as far as the operation from the hole, that 956 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 3: it was a closer than it should have been because 957 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 3: they couldn't see the lines on the field because the 958 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: snow was so bad. Is that an officials responsibility to 959 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 3: step in and make sure everything is lined up, to 960 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 3: make sure you can see what's going on or is 961 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: it just these are the elements got to deal with 962 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: it and you guys figure it out on your own. 963 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's more. 964 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 5: It's just the ladder where you know, if you remember, 965 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 5: I don't know what year it was, but along it 966 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 5: was the Patriots, right, the guy came on the field 967 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 5: with the with the snow, you know, to kind of 968 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 5: clear the snow. 969 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 10: You can't do that. It has to be the. 970 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 5: Teams responsible for for getting lined up. The officials are 971 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 5: responsible for just ruling on the alignment. And you know, 972 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 5: it used to be used to be seven yards from 973 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 5: from the line of scrimmage. That's where field goals were 974 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 5: kicked from. Then then because kickers got better and they 975 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 5: wanted to give get more space between the line of 976 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 5: scrimmage and the. 977 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 10: Kick, it went to eight. 978 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 5: That's on the team to figure that out where you're 979 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,720 Speaker 5: going to put the ball. The players can clear space, 980 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 5: you know they but they can't use anything artificial. They 981 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 5: can't you know, that come out with with shovels or 982 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 5: or a tractor or whatever it is. So that that's 983 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 5: on the that's on the team to figure that out. 984 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 5: The officials are just going to officiate the you know, 985 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 5: the the formation that the teams present. 986 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 6: Dean, are you one of those guys who do you 987 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 6: like the conditions that? Does you know see the conditions 988 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,720 Speaker 6: like that bother you? Or you think like more teams 989 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 6: should build domes. 990 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 5: I think there's something cool about watching football and the 991 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 5: snow and the elements. 992 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 10: And there's a line, right. 993 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 5: It's that's that's that's I don't think every stadium should 994 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 5: should be a dome or should be indoors. Imagine watching 995 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 5: a game in Green Bay inside or or Kansas City 996 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 5: or it's just that's that's what it is. And you know, 997 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 5: I know the Super Bowl is in more control conditions 998 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 5: usually good weather, either good weather locations or domes. But 999 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 5: that's the super Bowl. The championship teams are always you know, 1000 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 5: that's home home field that I think that should be. 1001 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 10: I like the outdoor part, Dane. 1002 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 7: When I look at this matchup coming into the Super 1003 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 7: Bowl week and you have two teams that are really 1004 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 7: dedicated to trying to be physical, run the ball, and 1005 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 7: obviously you know I have the conversations with you every 1006 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 7: time about the holds and different things like that. Do 1007 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 7: you think that this is is the type of crew 1008 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 7: that will allow the excessive holding that has taken place, 1009 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 7: or will there be a focus in on because to me, 1010 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 7: I feel like these are game changing, altering holds where 1011 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 7: there could have been a sack, could have been a 1012 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 7: strip sack, could have could have caused an interception, it 1013 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 7: could have did something, but they're being held in a 1014 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 7: way where it's it's an egregious hold. Do you do 1015 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 7: you feel as though with the type of audience, how 1016 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 7: big the audience will be, do you think they will 1017 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 7: call those holds knowing that there's going to be more 1018 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 7: people watching, or will they stay kind of consistent and 1019 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 7: true to the idea of letting letting the holds kind 1020 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 7: of you know, play out. 1021 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I think you see as every the number 1022 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 5: of foules called in the post season always goes down 1023 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 5: compared to the regular season. And there's there's a lot 1024 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 5: of factors. Right the teams are in theory, these are 1025 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 5: your better teams. They know what's at stake. They're not 1026 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 5: going to you know, they're not going to push the envelope. 1027 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 5: But also there's that human element of the officials and 1028 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 5: not wanting to be the story and maybe we're not 1029 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 5: officiating it as closely as as they are during the 1030 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 5: regular season. I think all those things will I don't anticipate, 1031 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 5: you know, this game's going to have thirty flags. I 1032 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 5: don't think anybody wants to see that. Ultimately, the two 1033 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 5: teams are going to decide how many fouls there are, 1034 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 5: and so no, I don't think we're going to see five, six, 1035 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 5: seven holding calls. I really don't. I think we're going 1036 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 5: to see that same standard that we've seen all postseason. 1037 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 5: And there's probably holes that go on calls and and 1038 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 5: you certainly can't can't let egregious ones go take downs, 1039 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 5: bear hugs, those types of things. But I think this 1040 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 5: crew will go in with with a good plan and say, okay, 1041 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 5: here's go through their home review. We're going to call. 1042 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 5: You know, if it's aout voul, we got to call it. 1043 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 5: But then once you get into that game, sometimes it 1044 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 5: kind of settles in and there's more of a let 1045 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 5: them play mentality, and then you don't get a lot 1046 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 5: of those calls. 1047 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 3: Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. We 1048 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 3: were talking about the news that came out that shad 1049 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 3: Or Sanders apparently is going to the Pro Bowl because 1050 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 3: Drake may is going to the Super Bowl, and I 1051 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 3: don't know, maybe nobody else wanted it. But back when 1052 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl was something where you would go to 1053 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 3: Hawaii and people would go out, Guys would go out 1054 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 3: there for the whole week, and it would be an honor. 1055 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 3: Guys like LeVar would be out there three times and 1056 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 3: tearing up Waikiki and everything that came along with it. 1057 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: How were the officials selected for the Pro Bowl in Hawaii? 1058 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 3: Because I would assume that would be an honor, Like 1059 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 3: it's an exhibition game. They can go out there, have 1060 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 3: a couple of cocktails, call a football game, maybe get 1061 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 3: an extra check or two. 1062 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 4: How did that? How did that process work for the 1063 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 4: officials there? 1064 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's interesting. 1065 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 5: With the Pro Bowl, it's a fun assignment. But I 1066 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 5: think with the officials it's a little bit different. Because 1067 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 5: you're with the players, you're being flected to the Pro 1068 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 5: Bowl means you're I mean not as much anymore, but 1069 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 5: but it means you're you're one of the best in 1070 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 5: the league, right You're you're with the officials. That that 1071 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 5: wasn't the key. So if you got the Pro Bowl, 1072 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: you didn't necessarily have the season that you wanted to have. 1073 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 5: You want to work championship teams, you want to work 1074 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 5: Super Bowl. 1075 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 10: But it's a nice perk. 1076 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 5: Youre going to Hawaii, And like you said, it's it's 1077 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 5: it's not the game isn't the same pressure the game 1078 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 5: that you bring. Officials will bring their families like a 1079 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 5: lot of the players would. And it was a fun assignment, 1080 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 5: but it wasn't something that officials strive to do. And 1081 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 5: even it became one of those assignments where if an 1082 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 5: official was retiring, that was like a you know, kind 1083 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 5: of a going away president and go work the Pro 1084 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 5: Bowl and do your last game in Hawaii. 1085 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 6: Dean with one game to go, what changes in the 1086 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 6: future would you like to see? 1087 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: As far as the NFL and Institute and MEW, I 1088 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: keep trying to get you guys to just add another official. 1089 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: I figure that might help some things out, but no 1090 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: one seems to want to want to do that. So like, 1091 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: like what things would you be like if I was. 1092 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 6: There in charge? Like this is the one or two 1093 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 6: things I'd focus on. 1094 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 5: I just think process, I think the transparency. I think okay, 1095 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 5: with replay, who's making those decisions? Let's get more insight 1096 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 5: into what's going into those decisions. If we can, if 1097 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 5: we can hear and see, I don't think the NFL 1098 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 5: will ever go that route, you know, completely, Just give 1099 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 5: us more more insight into what's happening. Who's who's like 1100 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 5: I said, who's making those decisions? I think from a 1101 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 5: rules perspective, I don't think there's any glaring problems. I 1102 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 5: know we've talked about the Tush push. They'll look at that. 1103 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't necessarily think that's the game 1104 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 5: is going to be ruined if that play stays in. 1105 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 5: But I think the game is in good shape. I 1106 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,240 Speaker 5: don't think you need to make a ton of changes 1107 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 5: every year because then players have to learn something new 1108 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 5: officials have to or or unlearned something. So I just 1109 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 5: think that's transparency in that process and understanding what goes 1110 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 5: into these decisions, especially in replay. 1111 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 10: I think the league can clean some of that up. 1112 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 3: Diana, you go and do Super Bowl. You're gonna be 1113 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 3: out there next week. Are we gonna get matter what 1114 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 3: I don't I. 1115 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 10: Have, I don't plan to be I don't really. 1116 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 5: Have any obligations. Socks isn't doing the game. So but 1117 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 5: if if something comes up. 1118 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 10: I may. 1119 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 5: It's not not a hard you know, it's an easy 1120 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 5: trip for me from LA. But we'll see. I'm not 1121 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 5: entirely sure, but if I do come out, you guys 1122 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 5: will be out there. 1123 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 10: I'll come see you well. 1124 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, that would feel like duty enough. Come 1125 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 3: hang out with us at uh, you know, a convention 1126 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 3: center with nobody in it at five in the morning. 1127 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 4: Why not? 1128 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, No, it's awesome, sounds. 1129 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: A yeah, it's it's a great party. You can bring 1130 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 1: You could bring your homes or just take someone else's. 1131 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 4: That's there. 1132 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 10: You just sold me on. 1133 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 6: Tang. 1134 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dean, I mean if are we going to talk 1135 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: to you them before the game? If not, it'd be 1136 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: nice to get like in a prediction or how you 1137 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: see this thing plan out? 1138 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 10: I think you I will definitely talk. Look, I think. 1139 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 5: Like a lot of people, I think most people felt 1140 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 5: that the winner of the NFC game would probably be 1141 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 5: the favorite. 1142 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 10: And but it's not. 1143 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 5: It's not like it's not like the Sea Hawks are 1144 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 5: or seven and a half eight point favorite. Newon has 1145 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 5: a tough defense. I don't think the Rams defense was 1146 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 5: playing all that well the latter portion of the year 1147 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 5: and into the postseason. 1148 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 10: Seattle's tough, I think. 1149 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 5: You know, if I had to pick, I'd say they, 1150 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 5: you know, Donald plays the way he played on Sunday, 1151 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 5: Seattle's going to be tough to be. 1152 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 10: They just are. 1153 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 5: But he can't count New England out there. They like 1154 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 5: I said that Raves is a great coach. They you know, 1155 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 5: May's playing at a high level. I know, I know 1156 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 5: that game was kind of an anomaly in terms of 1157 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 5: the weather. I'd say Seattle's probably the favorite. And if 1158 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 5: I had to pick, I'd say they're going to win 1159 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 5: the game. 1160 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 10: But anything can happen there. 1161 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 4: He is the great Dean Blandino. 1162 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 3: What you hear on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports, NFL 1163 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 3: Call Football Rules Analysts, get him on x at Dean 1164 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 3: Blandino and as always, phenomenal job. And we hope to 1165 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 3: catch up next week. 1166 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:17,280 Speaker 1: All right, get out of here, I'm out of here, alright, 1167 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: had along here. 1168 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 3: It is two Pros and a cup of Joe here 1169 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Twin, Jonas Knox 1170 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 3: with you. 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