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Speaker 1: How are we doing? It? Is Thursday afternoon and here's

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Today it will be Caleb Williams. Something Kaleis

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Speaker 1: learned a valuable lesson. Adam, I don't care how much

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Speaker 1: you try to be the player's friends. They don't give

429
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Speaker 1: one shit about anything you say because his whole thing

430
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: is like he had to talk with him. He thought

431
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: they were gonna play hard, and they've never played less hardy.

432
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: They couldn't have cared less and that game is one

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00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: of Like again, this is not for me that the

434
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: weekend is no longer for me. It just it lost

435
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: its lester a long long time ago. But you can't

436
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: have a NBA basketball game with the best players scoring

437
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: over two hundred points like that. That just that can't happen.

438
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: So that's the number one fugazigo in the NBA All

439
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: Star Game is just talk about talk about a disaster.

440
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: I've always been a good tipper when I had no

441
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: money in college or early on in my professional career.

442
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm making twenty thirty forty grand. If I went to

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00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: a restaurant and someone was good, I tipped you. It's

444
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: why I actually always tip well on door Dash and

445
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Uber East orders, like you are doing a service that

446
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: I do not want to do. You're going somewhere picking

447
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: it up and driving it to me Like that's I

448
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Any industry where you above and beyond for me,

449
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: I have no problem tipping you. You don't need to

450
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: throw something in my face when I give you the

451
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: card a tip like I want to tip you. There

452
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: has this culture of and I noticed it a couple

453
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: of years ago in like CVS's and Targets and McDonald's, like,

454
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: do you want to donate to the charity. Well, if

455
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: I donate to charity, let's say I give ten grand

456
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: to a charity, Like, obviously I'm trying to do something good.

457
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: But you get the credit of being able to write

458
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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars either off your company or your income. Well,

459
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: if all these companies that are taking that right now,

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00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the write off CVS is getting

461
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: right now in terms of when you like, oh, donate

462
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: a dollar. All these companies, it's a it's a giant

463
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: that you talk about a fugazi. But when I drive

464
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: to Starbucks and I get a six dollar ice coffee,

465
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: which makes me very happy. I don't I don't spend

466
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Speaker 1: much time like I make coffee home, but sometimes I

467
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: just want an iced coffee, an ic A cold brew

468
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: with vanilla cold foam is my drink. And hell, it's

469
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: almost seven dollars for the large one. And then they

470
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: get up to you and they hand you the thing.

471
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: And they've just handed you the drink. They didn't even

472
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: make it. They're just handing it to you, and they

473
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: look at you as you're kind of pressing the button

474
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: and you're paying seven dollars for a coffee that Goss

475
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: fucking Schultz and Company two dollars to make max and

476
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: they're just staring at you, and there's this weird there's

477
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: become this like shame and eye contact. But you're not

478
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: gonna tip me, like it's my fault that you're working

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00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: for this fortune five hometer company. That's listen. If you

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Speaker 1: had done something for me to deserve a tip, I

481
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: have no problem with it. I'm just using Starbucks as

482
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: an example. It's happening everywhere. It is out of control

483
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: something and again, I am pro tipping. I hate chip

484
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: cheap people. I despise I try to avoid cheap people.

485
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not just trying to butter myself up here.

486
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: I am a legitimately a pretty solid tipper, but the

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Speaker 1: the tipping on like three dollars things seven dollars. I've

488
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: always thought as someone that was single for a long

489
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: time in like my late twenties, who would pick up,

490
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: who wouldn't cook that often. I would go pick up

491
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: dinner if I because I remember Drew Brees got shamed

492
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: years ago for going to get a couple of pizzas

493
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: I fucking drove to you, like I order the food.

494
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm picking up fifty dollars in pizzas or twenty five

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00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: dollars and burgers and fries or whatever I'm coming. I'm

496
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: paying to come here, and then I'm paying for the meal,

497
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: and then I give you a tip for just handing

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00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: me the thing. It just it baffles my mind. It

499
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, It really doesn't. I think we

500
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: are broken. We are broken now. I don't expect no

501
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: one's more incompetent in the government, so they won't fix it.

502
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: But someone has to come in. There has to be

503
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: some universal agreement for industry standards, like some industries one

504
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent you tip if they do a solid. Other

505
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: tip's not even an option unless I want to give

506
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: you an extra. It shouldn't be on when they hand

507
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: me the thing for the credit card. It shouldn't even

508
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: be an option. And then when it is an option

509
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: and you're like, you don't deserve a tip, and you

510
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: fucking give me those eyes like you know they're kind

511
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: of screwing me here. It's not my problem. I could

512
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: be getting screwed to my line of work too, So

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00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: I just I think this whole tipping thing and obviously

514
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: it got accelerated over the last several years. Is just

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Speaker 1: one of the craziest fugazis I've ever seen. Okay, let's

516
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: dive into the mailbag. You guys know the drill at

517
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in

518
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: those dms from Ryan. Are you surprised the NFL doesn't

519
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: have a track man for their kickers to simulate the

520
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: yardage and wind when they are kicking into the net

521
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: warming up? Like how track man to simulate the golf round.

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Speaker 1: Honestly never crossed my mind, but kind of genius. I

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Speaker 1: would say. The difference though, is it's one thing to

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00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: practice on the track man indoor simulator in golf, no golfer.

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00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: And if we're using a kicker, so you're talking like

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00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: a PGA golfer, just like a professional kicker, you'd actually

527
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: go to the range where you actually go to the

528
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: course because you want to see the ball fly. So

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00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I kind of understand it.

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00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: Maybe in like OTA's or training camp, but in terms

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Speaker 1: of games and even game week you want to kick.

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00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I think the kicking into the net is more just

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00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: warming up your leg right, because you kick before the

534
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: game and you kick at halftime, so you see the fly.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just to keep the motion down less

536
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: about where the ball's going. But I've never kicked in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, so that's a good question. What do you

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00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: think happens with Dayball and the Giants? As a Giants fan,

539
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to think they can compete this year, but

540
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: it ain't looking that promising. If they do miss the

541
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: playoffs and the offense looks like dogshit again, would you

542
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Speaker 1: fire him even after winning Coach of the Year in

543
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: his first year. Obviously there's the behavioral stuff with him,

544
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: which if he doesn't clean that, he's one hundred percent gone.

545
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: One thing's pretty clear the Giants and John mara is

546
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: big on like old school values and looking right and

547
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: kind of conducting yourself in a certain level. I know

548
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Speaker 1: through because I know people that quote unquote covered the team,

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00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, as writers and people that are around the

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00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: team every day. I listen. I was with the Eagles,

551
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: so I kind of have a feel for the Giants

552
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: you as a fan and people that cover the team

553
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: know like it's a pretty old school organization that they

554
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: did not. They're not on board with the way everything

555
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: played out with Wink and day Ball and the articles

556
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: coming out about the way he acts. Like, let's face it,

557
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: I know they fired Tom Coughlin, but they like more

558
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: of a presidential operation and day Ball, which I can't appreciate.

559
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: A little rough around the edges right now when you're

560
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: the boss. There's a way to treat someone in the

561
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: way not to treat someone. And clearly everything that came

562
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: out of there that it's not ideal and people don't

563
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: like working there. But like you said, and we talked

564
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: about this on the podcast, portion optics and all that stuff.

565
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: Even Wink Martindale said, nothing changed from year one to

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: year two. We lost. When you win, it covers up everything.

567
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: It's why the only thing that matters in the National

568
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Football League is winning. And this year they were hard

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00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, they were an embarrassment, right. I

570
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: don't think he's necessarily on the hot seat because he

571
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: replaced two people that were two and done two and

572
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: done right Shermer, Joe Judge. It was pretty ugly. So

573
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: if he can just have them competitive, I would say

574
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: seven to nine wins and they missed the playoffs. I

575
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: think he's getting a fourth year, but I don't think

576
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: he can afford another just like you said, dog shit season,

577
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: So I definitely think there's some pressure. Here's the other thing.

578
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: They play in a division which Cowboys are a playoff team.

579
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: Eagles are a playoff level team. And now we'll see

580
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: what Washington does. Like are they just much more buttoned

581
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: up next year? Do they hit on the quarterback all

582
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden You're looking if that organization is no

583
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: longer a joke and is well run and winning. And

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Speaker 1: when I say winning, just I mean competing to be

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Speaker 1: an above five hundred team. You're gonna have a problem

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00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams being deemed a generational talent. Do you

587
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: think him being on a bad USC team helps him

588
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: long term? For example, we see guys come from undefeated

589
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: teams like Lawrence not a generational talent and to a

590
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: lesser degree fields and see them struggle. Even Burrow had

591
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: a bad year at LSU, he also did a transfer,

592
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: not like Kayleb, Williams transferred to follow his coach, transferred

593
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: because Overmeyer said you're never playing here. Yeah, I would

594
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: say it would be a positive long term that he

595
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: just didn't go undefeated this year, and it was really

596
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: easy that his team and his defense was so shitty

597
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: that he had to figure out ways to just if

598
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: he didn't have some moments. Now, he played bad in

599
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: some games, but like Mahomes winning seven eight games, and

600
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: if he wasn't brilliant, they're not going to a bowl game.

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00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's definitely some merit to what

602
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: you just said. I have a question about choosing content

603
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: for the show. I've noticed in recent years that by

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00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: about Wednesday after the Super Bowl, most of the national

605
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: radio shows and pods start talking heavy about the NBA.

606
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: I understand you need to start weaning off football some,

607
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: but they talk NBA like it's popular, is equal to

608
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Drives me nuts and is an

609
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: instant turned the channel for me. I don't care about

610
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: meaningless and boring regular season basketball, and the TV ratings

611
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: bear it out. I'll never understand the logic for covering

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00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: the NBA this aggressively. As someone in the content business,

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00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: do you have any insight why they do this. I've

614
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: never had a national radio show. I mean, I have

615
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: a national podcast, but I can talk about whatever I want,

616
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: right and obviously we talk football three sixty five here,

617
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: and we just do golf because I like golf. I'm

618
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: a football guy. Football is the biggest sport going, and

619
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: football is what I enjoy talking about, and obviously what

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00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: people enjoy consuming for a long, long period of time

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Speaker 1: in the business, and as I just grew up a

622
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: sports talk radio listener is you would just play the seasons.

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00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: So if you're older, you would talk about the NBA

624
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: because that's just what you did. And I think there's

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00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: an element to that. Right where I'm thirty nine years old,

626
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: most of my friends, just like most of the people

627
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: looking at the television ratings, aren't consuming the sport like

628
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: they used to. But I do think old habits die hard,

629
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: so I think there's some of that. I also think

630
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: some people in the media probably just like the NBA

631
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: they actually watch it. I no longer do, so I can't.

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00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really listen to like I

633
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't consume as much content. I actually

634
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: consume NBA content in a weird way, not like the

635
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: breakdowns of individual games like you, I don't care, but

636
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: the big picture stories. I listen to NBA pods for

637
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: entertainment value. But I don't watch the game. But you

638
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. Here we're talking football, football,

639
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: and more football with some golf, because that's what I

640
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: watch and that's what I like. Listen. I can't speak

641
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: for anyone else. I do think a lot of people,

642
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: just like the NBA that talk about sports like I

643
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: like baseball a lot. But we're not talking here in

644
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: the podcast. What do you think Sakwan will wind up

645
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: wind up next season? I think it's gonna be very

646
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: very interesting this offseason when it comes to these running

647
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: backs because last year they got very very angry. Nothing changed,

648
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing changed. It's gonna happen again, sa Kwan, Josh Jacobs, Right,

649
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: these guys. You know Jonathan Taylor got an extension. Clearly

650
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: wasn't that much money. I don't know, man, I think

651
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: that it's the same conversations are gonna come up. They're

652
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: getting screwed. This is BS. Look at Christian McCaffrey. Christian

653
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: McCaffrey's better than you guys. He's like a hybrid wide receiver.

654
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: He's a very unique player. He's also been under contract

655
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, And it'll be interesting because Kyle

656
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Shanthans loves a guy, but I wouldn't be in the

657
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: business of paying running backs either. I've been trying to

658
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: kill this cricket. We have this, you know, like a

659
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: beverage fridge in the kitchen island, and somehow a cricket

660
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: got way underneath it, and I can't really pull out

661
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: the beverage fridge. And every night this cricket goes nuts.

662
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's right next year ear and we

663
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: are far away from the cricket. And I've had people

664
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: on Instagram's chat GPT, I've googled it how to take

665
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: out a cricket and the one thing, you know that

666
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I've put a light there overnight in a bowl of

667
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: water with honey around the rim, hoping to uh I

668
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: could drown the cricket. Has not worked. I don't know

669
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: what to do, but it's me versus the cricket. Right now,

670
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: the cricket is dominating. I'm from Portugal and I've been

671
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: following the NFL for about three years. Love it. When

672
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: are we going to see a team's firing the coach

673
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: to promote their offensive coordinator. For example, if the Saints

674
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: have a good season like one playoff win and a

675
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: good offense quotations unlikely. What are the odds of them

676
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: firing Dennis Allen? We know he isn't that good and

677
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: promoting Kubiak. This would also prevent teams from hiring what

678
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: do you think we're gonna see? It inevitable? You know,

679
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: eventually it's it's inevitable. Right, Let's face it. If the

680
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: Eagles had a do over, they would hire Shane Stikeen right, Like,

681
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm not it's not gonna ask how he that he

682
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't he wouldn't even touch the subject. But like it's

683
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: pretty clear, like it doesn't take You don't need to

684
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: be in the organization and know, like what coach would

685
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: you rather have? And I'm trying to think of another

686
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: recent example. You know, the good example would be Bobby

687
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: Slowick and Demiko Ryans. Like the one thing, it's pretty

688
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: clear Demiko's good, right, Demiko is good? Just like I

689
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: thought Rabel was good. You wouldn't hire Arthur Smith over Rabel.

690
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: If you have a good defensive coach, you keep him

691
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: around and you just have to lose your offensive coordinator. Well,

692
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: when you have two offensive coaches and one guy isn't

693
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: calling the game and the other guy is and then

694
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: you see him go somewhere else. You're like, Jesus screwed

695
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: up there. I'm a twenty one year old junior at

696
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Iowa State. My hair has recently started to receive badly,

697
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: thinking of going bald once I graduate and get a

698
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: real job. Any advice. When I started going bald, it

699
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: was also in college. I remember being at cal Poly

700
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: and looking down at the desk and seeing hairs and

701
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: I used to have really, really thick, like bushy hair.

702
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think that much of it, and then it

703
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: got progressively worse. I did not recede, though, mine just

704
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: fell out, and if I grew it out right now,

705
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I would have little to no hair on the top

706
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: of my head. My advice, listen, I think this is

707
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: probably one of the more insecure situations for any man.

708
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: You just kind of got to play it by feel.

709
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: You get to a point where you know it looks

710
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: really bad if you can keep it short, and it

711
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: doesn't look that bad even if it's receding a little bit.

712
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: You see a lot of forehead rocket but there does

713
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: get to a point where there's the point of ode return,

714
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: and when you get to the point and overturn. You

715
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: just got to pull the trigger. Here's when I did it.

716
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: When I worked at Fresno State, we took a team

717
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: picture one time in a bowl game. But it wasn't

718
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: a team picture. It was like pictures that the school

719
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: was taking at practice, and there was like a team

720
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: huddle and the picture was from like above and behind

721
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: at like the head coach, you know, addressing the team,

722
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: and I was on the outside of it and you

723
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: could see the back of my head and there was

724
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: a lot of head and not a lot of hair,

725
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: and everyone used to kind of make fun of me,

726
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: and I actually got the nickname. We were playing Nevada

727
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: one year. It was actually my second year there, and

728
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: this was when Kaepernick was on the team. They were

729
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: pretty good. They actually kicked our ass that game. Ryan

730
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Matthews got knocked out of the game. And the turf

731
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: there was like the turf on the Nevada field. If

732
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: you kind of like moved your hands or moved your

733
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: foot by it, it just you could see the bottom

734
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: of kind of like the ubbery part. It was very

735
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: it was like very thin hair and a dude. Eric Brown,

736
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: who now coaches Clovis West in Fresno, who was a

737
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: player on the team who got injured, who was then

738
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: like coaching, said middle cop, this looks just like your hair.

739
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: And my nickname became Turf, and a lot of people

740
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: from Fresno that's my nickname. They call me Turf because

741
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: the turf represented my thinning hair. I think you just know,

742
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: and once you do it, you kind of never regret it.

743
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: And I know some people. I mean, I could afford

744
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: to get hand probably hair transplants right now, But the

745
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: problem with hair transplants is it just replaces the hair

746
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: that you already have. So it's not like I could

747
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: just go I want Brad Pitt's hair. I want Tom

748
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: Brady's hair flow, and even he's had him. But I

749
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: think I just get the hair that I used to have,

750
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: which wasn't honestly that great. You seem always to give

751
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: good advice on the pod. I admire the platform you've created.

752
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm nineteen years old and I'm almost feeling stuck. Everyone

753
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: says that you're young and you have time, but I

754
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: almost not sure where to even start. I'm in D

755
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: two D sales right now while also working part time.

756
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: What advice would you give for just getting out there

757
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: and starting something, whether it's a small business, a real

758
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: estate or even growing a personal brand or really any

759
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: way sort to start making money. What did you do

760
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: to start your journey of success? I followed what I liked.

761
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: That was the key to myse Listen, Not everyone is

762
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: the same. We all run different races. But I'm not

763
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: smart enough to like, I couldn't have just gone to

764
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: work somewhere and been super dynamic in any industry. So

765
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: I had to follow what I was passionate about doing,

766
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: and in my twenties that was football. Obviously, I worked

767
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: in football, and you worked long days and it was

768
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: not easy, and I did not make any money when

769
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends with college degrees were making

770
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars at different companies. But luckily,

771
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: like I didn't have that much envy or jealousy in

772
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: terms of money. Like, I'm actually not like Listen. I

773
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: live a pretty expensive lifestyle, but money doesn't mean anything.

774
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything for me. I just have you know,

775
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: expensive take like I like playing golf, I like, you know,

776
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: the nice gym or whatever. But for the most part, like,

777
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm not money driven in the sense that I like

778
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: to gamble, but I don't like it doesn't get me off.

779
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: You could send me a twenty million dollar wire right now,

780
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: like Collins, Like you guys just hit twenty million dollars,

781
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: here's twenty million dollars. I'm not saying I wouldn't. I

782
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't smile, I wouldn't fucking be able to do some

783
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: stuff with it. But it doesn't it It doesn't do

784
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: that much for it for me personally. Some people are

785
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: I've always said, though, I think most people that are successful,

786
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: and I was lucky growing up. Some of my friend's grandparents,

787
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: the guy my dad worked for, they all, every single

788
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: one of them that were rich, really were addicted to

789
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: what they did, whether it was farming. I knew a

790
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: buddy's dad that was the CEO of a health company,

791
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: and it's just like they just loved it and they

792
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: could do it seven days a week. It's why these

793
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: football coaches are so successful. They're addicted to football. So

794
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: the easiest way to become successful is to find what

795
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: you like and then go down that path. Now, depending

796
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: if you go. If what you love is finance, yeah

797
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna get closer to money faster. But if what

798
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: you like is some of these other industries. It might

799
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: not be the case, but it will set you on

800
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: the path. When you like doing something, you end up

801
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: doing more of it and having no problem because no

802
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: matter what you do, you're gonna end up working. So

803
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: if you like what you're doing when you're working, you

804
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: don't really look at it like you're working. What did

805
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: Belichick say? Forever? Right? Sure beats being a plumber. I mean,

806
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: the guy was working twenty hours a day for fucking

807
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: forty five years for nine months a year. But the

808
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: dude love football as much as anybody, and obviously he's

809
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: talented at it. We all have different talent levels probably

810
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: whatever we do. But I think the easiest way is

811
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: to not think short term. And that's the best advantage

812
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: you have. When you're nineteen, you have so much time left,

813
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: so you gotta think big picture. Can't think, well, how

814
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: am I gonna make money for the next two months?

815
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about like how am I gonna

816
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: eat or pay the rent. I just think a lot

817
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: of people make decisions on like what you could do

818
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: this job that you'd really love, especially if you're nineteen

819
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: or twenty or twenty one. Or whatever in your twenties.

820
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: This pays you half as much or a quarter as

821
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: much as this other job that you don't care about

822
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: at all. So even let's just pick some numbers. Let's

823
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: say I gave you a job of something you really

824
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: like to do, I mean really like to do for

825
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: thirty grand, or you could work at this insurance company

826
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: and with bonus and stuff, you might make one hundred grand.

827
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Ninety percent of people are like, hey, I take one

828
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: hundred grands more than three x the number. Well, I think,

829
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: big picture, that thirty thousand dollars job, if that's your passion,

830
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: whatever that may be. I don't know, I can't speak

831
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: for you, but is better off big picture if it

832
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: truly is a good opportunity. And I guess early on,

833
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I didn't have that many options, Like,

834
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: I never gave myself like a fallback, you know, if

835
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: this doesn't work or I don't like this, I'll go

836
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: work and I'll try to get a job at a bank,

837
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: you know where I'll I don't pretend to be some

838
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: like born entrepreneur. So I was kind of forced into it,

839
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: and then I realized I'm much better being in the

840
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: space of not being a W two employee. Having ownership

841
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: in this stuff gives me excitement. But the reason I

842
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: was able to do that in my mid thirties was because,

843
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: like the first twelve years of my life, you know,

844
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: two years of Fresno State, three years in the NFL,

845
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: four years in radio right from twenty two to like

846
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: thirty two. I guess it wasn't fifteen years ten plus

847
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: years of working. I never made one hundred grand. I

848
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: got multiple fucking degrees. I mean I had friends because

849
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley was taking off, working for some of those

850
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: companies that had seven figure years. Definitely a lot of

851
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: people making half a million dollars like in their late early,

852
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, late twenties. Again, that's not necessarily normal, but

853
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: given where I was living the perfect timing, the industry

854
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: is crushing it. Luckily I didn't even care. It was

855
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: like that, that's a sweet house you bought. I'm living

856
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: over here in this little shitty apartment. But I liked

857
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: what I did, so I never like felt envious of,

858
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: Like God, I wish I was with you, you know,

859
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: working at Wells Fargo. I don't know if I hopefully

860
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: I somewhat answer your question been following since these scouting

861
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: days at Presno. As a lifelong Browns fan, I don't

862
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: know how you would have done that, but if you did,

863
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: that's cool. As a lifelong Browns fan, can we ever

864
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: shake the narrative of being a dumpster fire organization? Over

865
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: the past five or six years, We've been competitive and

866
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: made the playoffs a couple times, which is more than

867
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: a lot of teams can say throughout the same span. Obviously,

868
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: we have to do it longer, but it seems like

869
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: people continue to rip us as the same old Browns. Also,

870
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: what are some real expectations for us this season? With

871
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Deshaun and all the other guys getting healthy? I think

872
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: winning the division isn't too far fetched. I don't think

873
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: you can win the division with the Deshaun Watson we've

874
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: seen the last couple of years. We've talked about this

875
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: during the season. We'll talk about it now. His salary

876
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: cap triples hit nineteen million to like sixty plus. I

877
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: think it's like sixty two or sixty three. So your

878
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: team was pretty stacked last year. Just you know, you

879
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries and you were still really

880
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: good because your cap was big and you had a

881
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: lot of good player Those days are over. You need

882
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson now to be competitive with Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

883
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, what Justin Herbert's probably about to be with

884
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. You need him to be a Pro Bowl

885
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: level guy. If he's not, you're completely screwed. If he's good,

886
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: then yeah, you're gonna be a double digit win team.

887
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: But he cannot be the guy we've witnessed the last

888
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: year and a half. He can't because if he is,

889
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: you're dead on arrival. You have no shot. If he's good,

890
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: then yeah, you could win eleven twelve games again, I

891
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: mean good, like thirty five touchdown good. Started listening to

892
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: you season inspired me to start my own podcast, No

893
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: one asks sports podcast. If you're not allowed want to

894
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: say this on there? Yeah I can say it. No

895
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: one will ask sports podcast that wish I had started

896
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: years ago. Loved your take on the LIFTPGA issue today

897
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: and couldn't agree more. I don't know the ins and

898
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: outs of the potential merger, but it would greatly benefit

899
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: both parties wallets if they got it sorted out. Obviously

900
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: an entirely different sport, but it reminds me of the

901
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: Indye car cart split in the nineties. Open wheel racing

902
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: in America has still never recovered from that, and I

903
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: fear the PGA Live don't merge asap it could have

904
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: the same long term repercussions of the sport. I appreciate you, Yeah,

905
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: I just think anytime you have a sport that is

906
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: top heavy in talent, Tennis has this, Golf has this,

907
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: The NBA has this. If I take of your ten

908
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: best players half of them to another league, you're in

909
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: major trouble. This is what the USFL tried in the eighties.

910
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: It was like Reggie White, Steve Young, they started buying

911
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: all these players, Doug Flutie. I think I'm not Belichick

912
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: as a football historian, hell I was born in eighty four.

913
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: But Jim Kelly, if they would have done that for

914
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: ten years, it would have been a problem. Like last

915
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: I checked, having those guys in the NFL was Steve Young,

916
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly and Reggie White kind of mattered. So they

917
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: just can't operate the way they're operating, especially because golf

918
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: is not mainstream like football, right it is very, very

919
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: dependent on the lead guys to carry them on a

920
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: weekly basis, and right now it's just simply a disaster,

921
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: which makes me sad. Now it's also why I gamble

922
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: on the Mexico Open, because I'm going to be interested

923
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: no matter what, because I got a little cash on

924
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: some guys. I was wondering, do you believe that one

925
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: of the teams that are indeed in need of a

926
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: young quarterback would think about signing Russell Wilson to let

927
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: the rookie sit for a year. I think Russell Wilson

928
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: is not the guy that you would let a rookie

929
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: sit behind. He's too famous, there's too much drama around him.

930
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: I think he's the opposite of the type guy you

931
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: want around by young rookie quarterback. So I think that

932
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: those teams we all know him, that are potentially going

933
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback, I don't think they'd be interested

934
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: in Russell Wilson. I saw chudg Ojo Sinko said the Steelers.

935
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: That makes some sense. I got, can't you Piickett at

936
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: this time, he's like twenty five years old. Maybe he's

937
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: just not good enough. Mason Rudolph's a good backup. He's

938
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: bringing Russell Wilson. You start him that to me, that

939
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. That's the type move where

940
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos are paying the salary he gets cut, you

941
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: sign him for like two million dollars. They pay the

942
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: other thirty eight million dollars, so he's basically making forty

943
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: million dollars, so to him whatever, and he gets to

944
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: start for the Steelers. It actually makes a lot of sense.

945
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: You think the Vikings only option for getting one of

946
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks in the draft is to trade Jefferson

947
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: to get one of the top draft picks. I'm hearing

948
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: a lot of scene about the Vikings wanted to trade

949
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: up in the draft, but I don't see how that's

950
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: possible without trading Jefferson or multiple first rounders, which I

951
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: do not see our front office doing as we are

952
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: in our division and need the capital to rebuild our defense.

953
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: I think when you look historically at quarterbacks, like how

954
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: often do guys that go one, two, three, two of

955
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: those guys usually suck. It's one thing if you're sitting

956
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: there to draft the guy, but how often do teams

957
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: trade up out of nowhere and draft the guy and

958
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: then feel good about that guy ten years later. Remember

959
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, the Rams and the Eagles

960
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: traded up. They got jaredy Goff and Carson Wentz. Neither

961
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: guy was on the team five years, six years later,

962
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: So that a lot of guys that got drafted, like

963
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: even in the mid first round historically have been good players.

964
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes you can be a little more patient.

965
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: I think you got to be very careful about forcing

966
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: things in the draft, because when you force moving way

967
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: up for a quarterback, it'd be like overextending yourself on

968
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: a house and then having if it doesn't work out,

969
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're looking at a disastrous situation.

970
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: You know you overextended yourself on the house. Economy turns

971
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: and you're screwed. Interest rates are high. Now listen, if

972
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: that area booms, your house goes up doubles. You don't

973
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: even think twice greatest investment I ever made. You trade

974
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: up and you get some star quarterback, you don't even

975
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: You'll never never cross your mind again. It was worth

976
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: every We would have traded the Chiefs trading up for

977
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes would have given ten ones for Patrick Mahomes.

978
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: But when it doesn't work out, it's a pretty big kick,

979
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: and then you know what it's happened to the Bears

980
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: twice in like five years. Miss trubiskyit two and then

981
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: trading up for fields. Neither guy's gonna be on the

982
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: team because a disaster. At least. And here's the other thing.

983
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: When you miss on a position player, at least the

984
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: guy can play. Right. Let's just say you take a

985
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Who's that who's never gonna be worth the

986
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: top ten pick or five pick. I saw the Raiders

987
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: did it with Cleveland Ferrell and the Niners did it

988
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: with Solomon Thomas. You can still play those guys. They

989
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: can still play twenty thirty snaps, So yeah, you regret

990
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: the pick, but he's still playing well for you. When

991
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: you miss on the quarterback, like the Steelers, you're like,

992
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: well we even want to start this guy. You can't

993
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: play two quarterbacks at once, so he's kind of worthless.

994
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: Been listening to the pod for two year and love

995
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: your takes and honesty. I wanted to ask, although they

996
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: just played in the Super Bowl, could you see the

997
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: possible trade Brandon Ayuk to the Chiefs. It would give

998
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: Pat another premier receiver along with Rice and not only

999
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: add a deep threat, but a great yak receiver for defenses.

1000
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: Trying to limit Brandon Ayuk would be incredible on the Chiefs.

1001
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: I just don't see the forty nine ers. Several years back,

1002
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: they traded Buckner for pick thirteen. It was like DeForest

1003
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: Buckner was not worth the thirteenth pick. Their problem is

1004
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: they picked the wrong guy. They took kin Latt. They

1005
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: should have just taken worse they got cute. To me,

1006
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: you can't trade Brandon Ayuke for pick thirty two. It's

1007
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: not enough value. It's worth it for you than to

1008
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: just pay m Now, if someone offers you a pick fifteen,

1009
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: you gotta think about it. You gotta think long and

1010
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: hard about it. But I don't think first and foremost.

1011
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: I don't think thirty two is enough. He's too good

1012
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: for you. He had fifteen hundred yards, he's twenty four,

1013
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: he blocks, He's an incredible player for the Niners. But

1014
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: there is like how many guys can you pay? How

1015
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: much money does he want? How can the Chiefs afford

1016
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: to give him twenty five million dollars a year? Maybe

1017
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: they could backload the deal. I think the Chiefs would

1018
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: be interested, for sure, but I don't see the Niners

1019
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: doing that. Love the pod. Been listening for around six

1020
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: months now. What would the number one priority this offseason

1021
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: if you were the Colts general manager. It's a good question. Also,

1022
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: as a fellow time full time creator, congrats and all

1023
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 1: the success with the podcast. I appreciate that, Tanner. I'd

1024
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: be lying if I said I had like a complete

1025
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: breakdown on the Chiefs or excuse me, the Colts roster.

1026
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, in theory, they have their quarterback, they have

1027
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: a running back under contract. Feels like they could use

1028
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: a little more juice on the outside. Pittman solid, but

1029
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, true number one wide receiver or a tight end,

1030
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: like an impact playmaker I think would definitely help in

1031
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: the passing game. With Anthony Richardson, you always could improve

1032
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: the defense. A pass rusher, you could never have enough

1033
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: of those, and same with the offensive line. So I

1034
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: would say Ballard either go line or a playmaker would

1035
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: be my guest. But that's I feel much more strongly

1036
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: on some of the you know, the Bills, the Ravens,

1037
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Niners, the Cowboys, the Eagles. Just I

1038
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: don't watch as much AFC South, Just being completely real

1039
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: with you. Besides, like I paid attention to the Texans,

1040
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: but I wasn't super locked into you guys. I would

1041
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: love to get Ballard on the pod. I've tried to

1042
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: get him before he goes on Colin a lot. Maybe

1043
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: I can grab him and tell him call and wants

1044
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: him to come on my pod. The NFL is hyper

1045
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: focused on the theme of you can't win without a

1046
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: top shelf quarterback, given those are rare, is it possible

1047
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: for a team to win with a mid level quarterback

1048
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: to winning with the Ravens type or Bucks type defense, Well,

1049
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: those defenses don't really exist, right. The best defense in

1050
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: the league this year was the Ravens and they played

1051
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: probably by the end of the season. The two best

1052
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: defense in the league towards the end of the season

1053
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: were the Chiefs and the Ravens, and they played each

1054
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: other in the AFC Championship. So yeah, now both those

1055
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: teams have Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. But I think

1056
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: if you have a really good defense, like a super

1057
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: if the Ravens had just played with Gardner Minshew, they

1058
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: would have been really, really hard to beat. If you

1059
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: have a top two or three defense in the NFL

1060
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: and your quarterback is just capable, you can compete. Are

1061
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: you gonna win the Super Bowl? Probably not, because the

1062
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: day and age of those defenses are probably over because

1063
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: you could kill people. Part of their defense wasn't just

1064
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: you couldn't score on them. They were knocking people out

1065
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: of the game. Well you're no longer really knocking guys

1066
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: out of the game, but you are holding people to

1067
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: not that many points. Even the Ravens held the Chiefs

1068
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: seventeen points. Chiefs held the Ravens ten points. Chiefs held

1069
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: the Niners in nineteen points going in overtime. I mean,

1070
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: they didn't score them many points most of the season.

1071
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: So I think when you look at the NFL, defense

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00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: is still really really important at the highest level. The

1073
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: best defenses are typically the ones that win a championship,

1074
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs won it. Who knows, maybe the Ravens

1075
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: win that game they beat the Niners. The Niners defense

1076
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: actually was kind of coming apart, which was part of

1077
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: their problem. It wasn't as good as it had been

1078
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: if their defense was better. Shit, they're the Super Bowl champs.

1079
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: So I think we're never going to see the eighty

1080
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: five Bears or the two thousand Ravens or you know,

1081
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: the John Gruden John Lynch, you know, Warren sapp Derek

1082
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: Brooks type defense, even that Cam Chancellor Richard Sherman defense

1083
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll. They were killing people. Vernon Davis's career

1084
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: was never the same when they knocked him out in

1085
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: a game. They were just they were hitting people so hard.

1086
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: The Ravens and the Chiefs were doing the equivalent of

1087
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty four, the way they tackled, the

1088
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: way they hit but for the most part, like decapitating

1089
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: people and sending him, you know, to the blue tent.

1090
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Every other play is kind of done. You just need

1091
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: to tackle well, have a good pass rush, and play

1092
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: good red zone defense. But I I mean, Mahomes feels

1093
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: like he win the Super Bowl every year, and if

1094
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't, then Josh Allen might right, and brock Party

1095
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: had a Pro Bowl level season like brock Purty season

1096
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: was better than Trent Dilphers or Brad Johnson's or whatever. Right,

1097
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: those guys weren't throwing thirty two touchdowns and they couldn't

1098
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: run like that, So I would I would probably, I

1099
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: guess come to the conclusion of that's going to be

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01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: difficult to uh to obtain or for us to see

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: something like that again. The volume